PHILIP MESSING and CLEMENTE LISI
The New York Post
February 2, 2008
In an unprecedented anti-terrorism initiative aimed at keeping straphangers safe, cops armed with submachine guns and bomb-sniffing dogs will conduct daily patrols of the subway system starting this month, officials said yesterday.
Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said a boost in federal funding made the extra protection possible.
“Whether conventional crime or a terrorist threat, we will not let our guard down,” said Kelly.
The patrols – called “Operation Torch” – will begin in three weeks and involve teams made up of a sergeant, five officers and a bomb-sniffing dog, Kelly said.
The new security measure is one use to come from the $151.2 million in aid from the Department of Homeland Security to transit systems in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.
The NYPD did not specify how much of the new grant money would go to funding the subway patrols.
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February 4th, 2008 at 9:22 am
So much for, ‘Guilty until proven innocent.’ When are we the people going to start: Operation No More Tyranny? Homeland Security: For Their Protection!
February 4th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
People should immediately get tigether and start a public protest and the targeted locations and make a STIR!! Get the media involved (for whatever thats worth) and coverage is good coverage unless the “spin doctors” get to it before it airs.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
February 4th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
once agian the abuse of power by the goverment…..americans are going to wake up when its toooooo late……and those of us that are willing to fight will be detained and made examples of by calling us enemy combatents.
February 4th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Get out the cameras and megaphones, expose these thugs for what they are, put them on youtube or what ever.. They are waging a WAR against US and it’s time we wage one back.. Oh! make sure to wear Taser proof clothing. It’s not normal for cops to look like military roaming any American city streets….. WAKE UP!
February 4th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
LOL!
I can’t wait for the ID challenge when I am on foot and not driving. As a former cop I can tell that the only thing the Supreme Court requires of citizens is for you to ID yourself to cops when asked to. The court did not say that you had to do this by showing an ID card or papers. This is in regard to walking down the street minding your own business. The court does allows for such restrictions when entering secure areas of jails, airports, etc. or when operating a vehicle, plane, etc.
Hmm, on second thought my government agency is issuing me a “national ID card”. Maybe I will just carry this. It does not have my address, date of birth or anything other than my name and pic visible. On the card chip will be my employee ID (not SSN), full name, fingerprint, security level and duty station. So when NYPD asks me for an ID I’ll show them my federal ID card and laugh as they do cart wheels. I visit NYC every other month.
Jason
February 4th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
You guys are morons. Talk about sheep. Where in this article did it say they were going to detain any one. In case you guys don’t know, there are muslims who would love nothing more than to kill every one of us. They have bombed subways in Europe. What makes you think they won’t do it here? How many of you have actually rode a subway in New York? I for one am glad they are going to be there. Do us all a favor and drink the punch and wait for the next comet to streak by so you can climb aboard.
February 4th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I’m sure you don’t mind giving up your liberty for your freedom either?
Thank a Marine For Your Freedom?
I’m not sure what that means anymore, perhaps I should watch Top Gun and figure it out…
February 4th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Now we know what Bush W’s $3 trillion budget is all about, more non-productive jobs for terrorists hired by gobs of miscreants to work against us, the American tax payers!
There were no terrorists against Americans in-country or offshore until Bush W ‘Declared War on Americans’, and the ass-licking congressionals endorsed that heinous crime on Americans in 9/11/01 to put us under Bush W legislated non-laws, these harebrained butt-sucking cretin still sheltered under our congressional roofs again endorsed that despicable crime against us their own American constituents! Now all the Goddaumned ‘terrorists’ are on our U.S. tax dollar payrolls to terrorize us shitless to pay their tax dollar salaries for them! -Al Koppel.
Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said a boost in federal funding made the extra protection possible.
This boost in spending is called by our U.S. militaries as ‘Combat Pay’. “You, Amerikaners, are now the enemy to justify our ill-gotten unearned U.S. tax dollar payrolls. We terrorize you or we don’t earn our job security”! -Al Koppel.
“Whether conventional crime or a terrorist threat, we will not let our guard down,” said Kelly.
We can not allow the American Constitution to be demolished implicitly to turn our former Federal and State governments into gobs of miscreants to hold their terrorists all on our U.S. tax dollar payrolls, the congressionals included, unaccountable to non-existing laws or we the Americans are doomed into servile little beasties worked to death without rights or choices under a rein of terror yoked as tyranny on our freedom loving necks! -Al Koppel.
The NYPD did not specify how much of the new grant money would go to funding the subway patrols.
Somebody tell Bush W and the congressionals to shove that BUDGET, all in deficits we Americans are going to be terrorized to make good on, up their assholes where their filthy little brains are! -Al Koppel.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
New York City is becoming a reflection of the Zionist police state that exists in Israel. The New York policemen and firemen need to educate themselves about who they’re working for, and it’s not the people of New York.
February 4th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
I guess this is the solution in the problem-reaction-solution dynamic. I can’t wait for their “final solution” for our safety. Tyranny no longer has any logistical problems after rolling out prison camps, torture, secret trials, warrantless searches, militarization of police, and internal passports (REAL ID). Now it’s just a matter of making the call, and we know we can count on Clinton, Obama, Romney or McCain to do the honors.
February 5th, 2008 at 12:24 am
We are losing our freedoms more and more everyday. We have to do something. Come express your opinions at my website please !!
February 5th, 2008 at 10:44 am
I don’t get it. We have one terrorist attack by our own government and the sheeple get scared. Come on man the Brits suffered attack after attack and they aren’t scared. America sure has turn into a bunch of pusses. Did you hear McCain the other night during the debate claim that Al-Queso was a super power in the world. Next to the U.S., China , and Russia and the retarded which makes up at least a third of this country probably believed it. I grown into hating this country when I see how stupid our people are or are becoming. F+ck the U.S all us smart people should combine our money’s buy an Island and continue what our forefathers the true American’s would do and that’s to follow our Constitution.
February 5th, 2008 at 10:47 am
B.T.W LOVE THE NEW SITE ALEX KEEP IT UP. YOU ARE A TRUE PATRIOT A TRUE AMERICAN. ONE i CAN BE PROUD OF!!!!
February 5th, 2008 at 10:48 am
All the real Marines I know understand why the true defenders of the Constitution have been moved beyond the ‘rubicon’ (CONUS). All that remains at home are the mentally and physically shattered. How cool is that ‘thankamarine…’!!
Sadly, Marines used to be able to think better than they could fight, which is what made them formidable against far larger units…
And now we have local police running around with machine guns and masks in public. All ist klar, commissar.
February 5th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
another thing you’ll quickly realize about this “Marine” character is that no matter what the subject, if you have shown any sign of dissent, be it in an article you wrote or read, he will always disagree. The “marine” thinks in terms of objective rather than rationale.
Not talking about you marine, but your trollish type in general. Pleased to meet you though.
February 5th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
stop in the name of law ! jonny law is in the spot
i understand po;ice are doing what there told but do they all think this is ok
or they all dull eyed zombies! come on man !!!!!!!!!!!1 put the k-9 in charge
February 5th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Walk around with a ‘bomb sniffing dog?” no problem.
But Jeez, a spray and pray weapon? In a crowd situation?
Okay, here’s the skinny. Guns kill people.
I carry three around with me, to various places, (the zoo*) I do not use them.
But, use or not it is nice to have a couple of 1911s handy.
I only carry one “spray and pray” and have been doing my best to replace it.
A submachine gun for a police officer is just f*cking retarded.
(SWAT, okay; beat; retarded.)
But, y’know, that’s okay, because I am kind of scared of New York anyway.
*An old joke.
February 5th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
America is screwed.
February 5th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
hmm..lets see..
Youre in a subway and several terrorists whip out AK47’s and puts one to YOUR head, opens his jacket showing a bomb vest as his buddies do the same, and you are gonna PRAY for a squad of cops WITH machine guns to come save your sorry butts, and if you complain enough maybe all they will let the cop on the beat that will risk his life to save yours is a pistol, then you will demand cops with machine guns idiots. FACT…lmao..
The Marine and the NYC Cops know that they cant save your sorry butt or anyone elses with a pistol, and if you think for 1 second longer than you all regugitate idiocy here, you will figure it out. … maybe..
pull your heads out of the punch bowl
February 5th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
what are you saying, OOHRAH!, that you love the police state and believe in “terrorists”? I believe you are here simply to occupy peoples time. Get a life. You don’t even know what a real marine is.
Read about Smedley Butler
February 5th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Another reason to keep the ever-watching eye on innocent Americans. When did American’s die? Where is our right to have a say in where our funds are issued? Was there a vote on where this vast amount of funding would be used?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Hello Marine Bashing Puke stains. Shut your Pie Holes! Bash Bush and Congress but leave my Marine Corps out of it.
I’d love to see y’all in unifrom fighting for your buddies lives and your own, before you start talking smack. I’ve been there done that.
America love it or Leave it !
February 5th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
The official 9/11 story is an absolute LIE!
So everything that our criminal-in-chief has done to destroy our rights, freedoms, privacy and the Constitution is based on that lie, thus making them null and void.
The only war on terror is his war on us. Wake up America, this is exactly how Nazi Germany started.
Hitler’s 9/11 was the Reichstag fire. Hitler’s terrorists were the Russians who he blamed for the fire.
http://www.911truth.org
http://www.ae911truth.org
Google video: 9/11 Press for Truth, Loose Change, Terror Storm, America: Freedom to Fascism,
9/11 Mysteries
February 5th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
I tell you what, those who are for the martial law, stay in new york, stay on your side. You have chosen to be weak and cowardly to stand up for your rights. for the rest of us, we are not having that shit here in texas my friend, I would not stand for, i would be the thorn and the disease to authority. People are so senstized and demonized and brainwashed, Look how they control us by gas prices, your rights, your privacy, and now your thoughts. Our cummunist facto admistration wants to peak in on our emails and phone calls. then most you say well theres nothing you can do about it, There is everything you can do about it. We need mass protesting and a million man march. And im not talking about love and peace, Im talking about every citizen white, black, hispanic, asian, native american and every american marching with there fire arms to prove a point that we the people of the united states of america and not the united states of corporate america that we are not fucking around. We have an obligation to protect our constitution from assholes who want to destroy it. I encourage people i meet on the internet, inperson, friends and family, Be an american and exersize your 2nd amendment right and arm themselves. I have, Have you?
February 6th, 2008 at 7:42 am
Jonh:
As a Texan living in NYC I can attest to the weakness of the people in this city. So many young people are more concerned with being hip and politically correct than with the rising police state and demise of our rights as human beings. Not to mention, I can’t even have a gun in this city. As a hunter, I feel very comfortable with guns and understand their importance as the people’s last protection. In the neo-liberal world, advocating the second amendment labels one a crazy hillbilly, but they fail to see, as Mao Se Tung said, that “political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
An incredible idea, to march with our guns as an exercise of the 2nd amendment. I’d be proud to do the same.
February 6th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Hey Oohrah,If the terrorist are already on the train with their bombs then the only thing this patrol is going to accomplish is an increase in the body count.Let us think about this for a second,If you are the terrorist in the subway with bombs strapped to you don’t you think that as soon as you saw the dogs coming you would detonate your bomb?
February 6th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Word RastaMike. Tell you what after these b.s. rigged election I’m ready to say fuck this country and move to Switzerland. The U.S is just another empire bout to crumble like all the empires before it. This is Nazi-America and it’s citizen’s are just as retarded in turning a blind eye towards it due to corporate media Big government. We’ve doomed ourselves to a future of corporate feudalism and Economic Catastrophe and America still sleeps.
February 6th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
This is nothing new!, we’ve been warned of it for years, its just another step, another example of what is to come. The new DARK AGE is dawning over the once free, and proud America. I was born to a Nation ruled by a ruthless Dictatorship. The stories passed down to me by my Parents of how the change from absolute Freedom to all out Tyrany came about closely resemble what is happening here today. And yes! I very much agree with Acteon, The disarmament of lawful Citizens should be another wake up call. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! they want to disarm lawful gun owners while arming every Keystone Cop from coast to coast with fully auto weapons. That is the making of a police state.
February 6th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
That’s right, make a criminal out of everyone is the motto of today’s regime, well time for regime change isn’t it? These neo- criminals will stop at nothing to bring America to it’s knees we all know they work for the Saudi’s, and bow to them like dogs, licking their boots all the way!! It is no wonder our country is sinking into the pit of poverty with an Arab running this three ring circus into oblivion. Bush the arab face licking, hand holding trader would rather Arabs get our money than us!!
February 7th, 2008 at 2:11 am
@ Thank a marine blah …
I was free before you were even born, dumbo. Now I’m away from AmeriKa and still free. Want to take credit for that?
I’ve smelled your foul stench before, pseudo-jarhead.
Your freedom of speech, granted by folk long ago, gives you the right to say your piece. Fair enough. How you make a fool of yourself exercising your freedom is up to you.
Have a nice day.
February 7th, 2008 at 8:02 am
Well said, Novista! I served in the Army after College, and while proud of the service to my Country. I believe my US Citizenship, and Constitutional Rights are more valuable than my Military Service. Something Mr. ThankaMarineforyourfreedom has no clue of is that we serve to asure that our Countrymen have that very right to freedom of expresion that he is now so savagely attacking. H
February 7th, 2008 at 8:05 am
We have freedom of expression with militaries and we would have freedom of expression without militaries, what is your reason for not beleiving the latter?
February 7th, 2008 at 11:14 am
THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO CANNOT SEE WHAT IS HAPPENNING./COWARDS THAT ARE PART OF THE NEW EMERGING SYSTEM.COLABARATORS.THESE $%@! MARINE SIMPLE MINDED FOOL. GENERALY PEOPLE DONT OR CANT SEE THEMSELVES IN COMAND CONTROL POSITIONS.ONCE YOU PUT YOUR THOUGHTS INTO A NEW PARADIME ,IF YOU HAVE THE MENTAL ABILITY THE CLOUDS WILL CLEAR AND THE NEW PERSPECTIVE WILL ENLIGHTEN THOSE CAPABLE. OTHERS LACK THE MENTAL HORSEPOWER. SCREW THE GUNHOE MARINE SPECIAL FORCES ETC. THEY ONCE FOUGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. NOW THEY FOLLOW ORDERS BLINDLY,GLADDLY WOULD DISSARM AMERICANS.WITH GOVERNMENT GUSTO.I HOPE W/ ALL MY HEART THE PEOPLE(AND I USE THAT WORD LITELY) WHO ENFORCE THE NWA STARTING W/ ELIEN GONZALES ABDUCUCTORS WEARING PARAMILITARY SWAT UNIFORMS -DIE! IS THAT TO MUCH FOR THE MARINE FOOL? SCREW U AND ALL LACKEYS OF BUSH , CLINTON. WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT MY FREE SPEACH. CALL 281-704-2046 CRAIG W. DONT THINK ALL W/ SECURITY CLEARANCES ARE LOYAL TO THIS FACIST GOVERNMENT . BUSH IS A COWARD AND LIAR . MAYBE SOMEDAY HE WILL GET HIS DUE. AS THE NWA BIGGEST PROMOTER SNR AND JR ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.FALSE FLAG OPPS ARE THE NEW NORM. WATCH , “TERRORIST” WILL ATTACK IN TIME TO REINFORCE THE GOVERNMENTS DESIRED OPPS AGAINST THE US PEOPLE. REMEMBER RIGHT BEFORE WACO, HOW SICK PEOPLE WERE OF THE GOVERNMENT? THE NEED STAGE EVENTS TO MAINTAIN CONTROL.AND DISSARM THE PEASANTS.SCREW THE FBI,NSA ,AND ALL BLIND FOLLOWERS/PERPATRAITORS.HANG EM HIGH
February 7th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
How much do you want to bet that the inept military thugs of this country (and all others for that matter) have NEVER read 1984, Brave New World, or ANYTHING relating to the coming corporate fascism of this country which has been written about for over 100yrs?
Bottom-line for all you idiots with guns: STUDY THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!!!!
It has absolutely NOTHING to do with freedom, as we were free the very day we were born (right until Mom sacrificed us on the alter of darkness and had us fitted with our tracking numbers and security deposit slips [ss# & birth certificate]). It has to do with MONEY, as everything in this sh!thole of a world does. Greed will be the end of us, and the great cleansing is coming soon. If you’re truly a lover of freedom you better start understanding that PEACE IS FREEDOM, WAR IS SLAVERY. So long as there is a war-driven budget around the world, everyone will continue to push forward into complete and total slavery.
February 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
We are all suspects now.
February 7th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
What’s with these damn marines that are on every friggin’ thread I go to….either join us or leave and shut tha’ hell up………
February 7th, 2008 at 6:13 pm
do you remeber on alexs show today how it was said that what they like to do is keep people in caos so nothing gets accomplished….thats what marine is doing
he she or it is here to keep us talking about things that don’t matter and to get us angry and fight…it’s the same thing..
February 7th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
More fear mongering to keep control. Oh, I feel so much safer now that thugs with with machine guns will be roaming around on New York subways trying to intimidate your average decent citizen. Look what people are subjected to at airports. Good bye America.