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29 Engineers: Only Explosives Can Explain 9/11 World Trade Center Destruction
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9/11 Blogger
Friday, June 19, 2009
29 Structural & Civil Engineers Cite Evidence for Controlled Explosive Demolition in Collapses of All 3 WTC High-Rises on 9/11
More than 700 architects and engineers have joined call for new investigation.
For Some, the Doubts Began Early
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Lomba was hardly alone in his discomfort. Most structural engineers were surprised when the towers fell. They mainly kept their misgivings to themselves, though, as Scientific American and the Journal of Engineering Mechanics, BBC, the History Channel and government agencies such as FEMA and NIST offered varying and often imaginative theories to explain how fires brought the towers down.
Full article at:
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June 19th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
We will never know!
Case closed!
MAD DOG Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 11:38 am
DUDE, WE ALREADY KNOW.
WHAT YOU MEAN IS CONGRESS WILL NEVER ADMIT IT.
WELL WHO CARES IF THEY ADMIT IT OR NOT , IF YOU CATCH A KID WITH HIS HAND IN THE COOKIE JAR, IS AN ADMISSION NEEDED ?
WE GOT THEM RED HANDED, 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
dont think to much Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 6:01 am
mad dog:
and bad genetics explains your behavior here, unless its just your persistence in not learning to use your brain/mind….
math is the code/language of the universe, if you cant understand it, its your own damn fault…
shut up and fight back Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am
do you really wish to get yourself killed?
bad genetics? im gona implement you a dose of bse and youl see what bad genetics is.
Theywontchipme Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
loser says what????
The Anti-Beast Chip Man Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Sorry Irrational One!! but we will know and we already do know that almost 3000 people where murdered and that thermate disintergrated them and turned them to powder!! But in hell they will be rewarded with much agonizing sufferings and tormentings in hell in the very near future!!
Dale Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Rational Says:
June 19th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
We will never know!
Case closed……
Case NOT Closed. Rational: YOU WILL PROBABLY NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY TWO 110 STORY TOWERS CANNOT COLLAPSE SYMMETRICALLY. BUT THE MOST RUDIMENTARY SCIENTIFIC MINDS ARE BEGINNING TO CONNECT THE DOTS. 911 was an inside job. WTC7 was demolished with explosives. Steel does not melt from jet fuel nor do buildings collapse because of fires. You must be an idiot.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU IDIOTS
THERE’S NO CONSPIRACY
THE MAGIC FIREBALL THEORY EXPLAINS IT ALL.
dont think to much Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:58 am
mad dog:
and bad genetics explains your behavior here, unless its just your persistence in not learning to use your brain/mind….
math is the code/language of the universe, if you cant understand it, its your own damn fault…
Jefferson Hope Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
You’re right, bro. Math is the language of the universe, therefore fire brought down WTC 7. The formula for this conclusion is:
σφ2Y40ê + x2(80piaB») = fire.
P.S. you’re a douche bag.
June 19th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
its hard to argue with structural engineers on the issue of 911. when people try they usually change the subject very fast and start asking “well who did it then?” then an engineer might say something like “I dont know but can we stay on topic please.”
it gets very frusterating. i was 19 when 911 happened. I knew then and there that something wasnt right. I saw the way they fell and never beleived the story. So in light of the whole 911 truth movement, someone (most people) would have to be a complete moron to believe the government story.
ps i have an Arizona Republic from 9-12-01, guess who takes up a full page on page 3? u guessed it…. osama bin hiden. now, the papers are ready to go the day before, so u can tell its a massive coverup.
TOO LITTLE TOO LATE Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 3:07 am
VERY WELL PUT MY FRIEND , STICK TO THE SUBJECT ,LIST THE EXPERTS, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT CREDENTIALS THESE PEOPLE HAVE, TAKE THEIR THESIS PUBLISH IT IN A BOOK/STUDY AND GET IT OUT THERE TO MORE OPEN MINDED EXPERTS
Dale Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Right…..The State controlled media / newspapers have the story prepared the day before. Just like the Kennedy assassination on 11/22/63, a New Zealand newspaper actually released the details early (morning of Nov 22) regarding ‘assassin’ Lee Oswald. No way that paper could have compiled such a comprehensive dossier on Oswald in such short time. The paper bungled it by releasing too much too soon. That info, plus all the other evidence demonstrates a coup d’ teat by banker operatives of this country. The Warran Commission ignored so much evidence that its members should have all been hung. Yet besides the half-baked farce of the JFK assassination, the government STILL advertizes that Oswald shot everyone that day. TOTAL HORSEs---.
Rocky Horror Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 am
come on now guys!
popular mechanics debunked the inside job theory, remember?
now lets drink some koolaid and watch american idol…
June 19th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Are they going mainstream with this? If not, Why not?
The Anti-Beast Chip Man Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Sorry Roaddog!! But the globalist own the news media !! And they would rather talk about saving dogs and cats in trees than to tell the truth!! Truth is vey scarce in our globalist controlled and CIA controlled news media!! But God sees every single lie that they say and do!! And their punishments will be horrifically agonizing in the very near future!!
June 19th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
We know!
June 19th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I am a former U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Combat Engineer. One of the main focuses of my MOS was explosives. The only way for a building to come down in that way is with the use of fast burn, “cutting” type of explosives such as C4. An explosion caused by a petroleum based fuel source (such as aviation fuel) are slow burn explosions. Slow burn explosions cause the type of damage seen in the Oklahoma City bombing, large gaping holes. The slower the burn the more damage it can do. A fast burn explosive, on the other hand, does more precise damage in a smaller more focused area. Companies like Controlled Demolitions uses C4 to “cut” the structural components in a precise way to bring the structure down in a more or less controlled manner. During the weeks leading up to 9/11 there were reportedly strange work going on in the buildings. This would have been a perfect opportunity to set the charges. Then the planes would have been the perfect cover for the explosions.
I know that as a former Combat Engineer, I am probably on a list somewhere as a “potential terrorist” and by coming out publicly with my views that 9/11 was a crime committed against the people of the world by the NWO puppet masters I have probably elevated my standing on said list, but so be it.
DOWN WITH THE NWO! DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER! DOWN WITH THE REAL TERRORIST! STAND UP PEOPLE OF THE WORLD AND FIGHT THE TYRANNY!!!!
"ren Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
welcome to the jungle
limber dick Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
NWO= NO WORLD ORDER! ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE COLLAPSING UNDER THEIR OWN WEIGHT BECAUSE OF THE HIDDEN DEALS AND SECRET MONEY CHANGING BEHIND THE CURTAIN. ACTUALLY IT IS TIME FOR THIS TOTAL BREAKDOWN AND THERE IS NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO TO STOP THIS IMMINENT EVENT. IT IS UPON US NOW. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE MAJOR VIOLENCE WORLDWIDE AND THE WEAK, OLD AND INFIRM WILL PERISH BY THE MILLIONS. GOVERNMENTS ARE ADMINISTERED BY DEFECTIVE AND COWARDLY TYPES THAT USE PROPAGANDA AND LIES, FEAR TACTICS, ETC. GOVERNMENTS WHERE EVER THEY EXIST, CONSIST OF LIFE-SUCKING PARASITES. THE FINAL MOMENTS ARE UPON US NOW! THE FOOD RIOTS START AUGUST 1ST,… ALONG WITH MARTIAL LAW. WHAT A LAUGH!!
MAD DOG Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 pm
THIS IS THE TIME OF REVOLUTIONS MY FRIEND.
WE CO-OP THEIR CO-OP WHEN s--- HITS THE FAN.
DISOBEY EVERYTHING, OFFER NO CO-OPERATION, NO INFORMATION UNLESS IT’S BOGUS.
INSTEAD OF THEM FABRICATING STUFF, BLAMEING US TERRORISTS AND ATTACKING US,
WE STAGE FAKE EMERGANCYS THEY WILL BE FORCED TO RESPOND TO ALL DAY LONG, EVERYWHERE, ROUND THE CLOCK.
WE OVER WHELM THEM WITH AID REQUESTS.
THEN WE HAVE A BAR B Q SINCE THEY’LL ALL BE BUSY AND WONT HAVE TIME FOR SCREWING WITH US.
Chad Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Panick, do not be too concerned about being some kind of “list” – all of us who have had an honest opinion to share with anyone, anywhere, at any time over the past 50 years or so is quite likely on some kind of list, or multiple lists, and ’suggested lists’ that we ’should” probably be on because there are legions of people being paid to make such lists….so, having said that, we’ll make yet another honest observation that may be of interest to a few folks: the “Ship of State” that once was America is taking on water and LISTING very badly….we want to add this, also: there’s no sense in prolonging the inevitable. My wife and I are both 50-plus, and we’ve seen a few things ourselves, and we can tell that the ship is sinking… we aren’t going for the foolish “recovery is just around the corner” lie.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 11:41 am
RIGHT, YOU FINALY SAY SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR ALMOST 10 YR’S AND NOW YOUR ON THE LIST
HA HA HA
YOU GUYS GIVE YOURSELVES TOO MUCH CREDIT.
POSTING ON A WEB PAGE DOESN’T MAKE YOU A THREAT.
jm Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 9:07 am
when your government is run by the enemy, it is only right to be labeled a “terrorist” since that is just another name for patriot. What’s worse is being an accomplice to the enemy. That is how fascism works. A government is well trusted, until a Hitler takes over, people don’t want to believe it, and even if they did they think “well I can’t break the law, I’d be a bad guy” and not realize the simple truth: if the government is criminal, you don’t have to listen to them or follow your laws.
DJ Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Tell that to the guy who got arrested for saying he was gonna waste some pigs right here on this website.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
WELL THAT WAS STUPID, YOU’DE GET ARRESTED ANYWHERE FOR THAT.
DOESNT APPLY HERE, GUY SAT ON BENCH FOR 10 YRS AND POSTS 1 SIMPLE REPLY AND NOW HE’S PARINOID HE’S ON A LIST.
, HEY DUDE, YOUR ON A LIST JUST FOR COMING HERE, YOU ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS ALL US HERE NOW.
DEAL WITH IT.
huh Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
“Then the planes would have been the perfect cover for the explosions.”
There were no commercial planes on 9/11. You were lied to by your government, military, corporations, and military owned US media…..again.
rogdix Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
He didn’t say “commercial planes.” He said “planes.”
The Anti-Beast Chip Man Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Panic – have you ever heard of “thermite” and “thermate” !!?? It is suppose to have greater explosive power than even C4 !!
Greg Brooks Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Thank you for speaking up.
I can’t believe what people are willing to tolerate.
Now you know how Germany allowed Hitler to do so much damage.
I guess people just like to see citizens leap from collapsing buildings.
Maybe they think it will always happen to someone else.
I’m a veteran too- had a top secret clearance in the 70’s & 80’s.
I love my country. But they’ve got Rip Van Winkle Syndrome.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
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June 19th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
You may have made the RED LIST Panick. But you are not allone. Most patriots are on it.
But the longer I look at this the less I belive the “official” story of 9/11.
It seems the Bush and Binladin clans are sleeping in the same bed. Osama is the media bad guy they set up to keep all of us dumb hicks distracted. He’s just playing his role in the whole sharraide.
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
The Anti-Beast Chip Man Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Yes John Henke!! I am probably on the double red list I have been fighting these evil monsters for 20 plus years now!! but don’t worry!! When God allows them to kill me (and it won’t happen until its time!! For He has told me that He will be killing many of them first) I will still be preaching Jesus with my last breathe!! And then I will be shooting straight up to heaven and return with my Conquering King Jesus and His Mighty Angels and we will be defeating them all in just hours!! But tell me – Who put you up to shooting Reagan!!?? Didn’t you do it because Reagan crossed the new world order luciferian devils and they wanted him dead !!??
MAD DOG Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
GOD TOLD YA THAT HUNH ?
NEXT TIME HE CALLS, ASK HIM FOR THE NEXT LOTTO NUMBER FOR ME WILL YA ?
OBAMA'S CRACK PIPE Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
God told me he said no such thing to you…
June 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Did anybody pay close attention to Obama’s Oath when he was sworn in as president? If I’m not mistaken, he never said “To defend the Constitution from all Enemies, Foreign and Domestic”. Could someone check this out? I kept waiting to hear those words roll off his lips but I don’t think he took the full Oath. Biden did, I remember that for sure. If anyone recorded it, please let me know. I think He pulled a fast one on all of us!
JonVon Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
He did screw it up . Later in the day it was redone inside the White House with Chief Roberts in private.
June 19th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Of course it could only have been a joint Mossad/CIA op. This really should have gone beyond debate by now.
JonVon Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
http://www.americanfreepress.n.....ed118.html
June 19th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
I belong to AE – 911- Truth.
I’ve been trying to talk about this for years. It’s outside people’s belief system! When information is outside people’s belief system they act funny. Most don’t what to know. Even if they admit they haven’t done the research or that they have no expertise in the field.
They have they same response when you try to talk about the housing bubble before it popped, get your money out of the unsafe banks, and secret societies have an agenda against their interests.
They are doomed. They won’t wake up until they lose their job, house and everything else. Some of these people I’m taking about are my close friends and family.
Most of you on this web site know what I am talking about. people can not handle bad news very well. Their egos prevent them from expanding (changing) their belief system (I can’t be fooled, I’m too smart!). This is used against them (us).
Having said that; I meet people who are awake. There are some in my family who understand. There is hope.
Best of luck to everybody (even you trolls).
Keep up the Good Work Alex!
"ren Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
just keep trying to tell as many as will halfway listen. all we can do is try. good luck
ugh7499 Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 10:42 am
Civil, I’ve felt that way many times with many family friends and coworkers. Keep at it although it’s hard and frustrating at times. I’ve found that slowly but surely, these same people have begun to ask me questions about what’s going on. I’ve even persuaded some people to dismiss the swine flu scare, start taking vitamins and question things. I think that just getting people to question what they’re told is the key. Once you reveal that little bit of doubt that they may already have, they slowly wake up. Personally, I believe we are living in the age of awakening, all lies will be revealed, the truth will not be hidden forever. The more people that learn a truth, the easier it is for the masses to come to the same conclusion and they will feel that they ‘just knew’ or came up with it on their own. Our minds are capable of more than we have been taught. Knowledge is power. Peace and love to all of you!
frustrated phil Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:30 am
Civil, what you describe is no accident. There is an entire industry dedicated to brainwashing and controlling the way people think, the global headquarters are at the Tavistock Institute in London, England. It was started and funded by Rockefeller/Rothschild money and with as many as 200 sub-branches, under various guises, which are spread throughout the US and with the entire mainstream media at their disposal it is entirely possible to fool most of the people most of the time.
June 19th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I shuttered the first time I heard the words: New World Order and Youth Brigade! I wasn´t even a thought in WW2, but I did take history in school, and saw WW2 films, Did we forget Hitler so soon? I am of German and English Descent. There was also Stalin, Lenin and Mao. We haven´t learned from history! I shudder to think I brought 4 children into THIS world and now they have babies. Oh Crap!
They are in America too. I left and will only go back for business trips.
Kyle Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
The Antichrist will rule from Israel and there will be no safe place anywhere in the world. They have their hand in every economy and government around the globe.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 11:44 am
AND ARMIES OF MINLESS BIBLE THUMPERS WILL FOLLOW HIM WORLD WIDE.
BUT SINCE I KNOW IT’S ALL BULLCHIT, THE ANTI CHRIST MEANS AS MUCH TO ME AS THE GARBAGE MEN.
frustrated phil Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 am
American living abroad, I’m sorry but the history you learned at school was heavily censored propaganda, likewise the hollywood movies on the subject; the people behind the NWO were also responsible for concocting and fomenting every single one of the major political upheavals you mention there in your post.
They were all part of Meyer Amschel Bauer’s master plan, the final stages of which we are fast approaching and which will culminate in WW3 and a single global Marxist-Leninist state under tight Fascist control or in a single word ‘Zionist’.
If we allow it, I hasten to add.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Follow the money.
true Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Follow the money laundering.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
PETITION OF THE CITIZENS OF EUROPEAN UNION COUNTRIES AGAINST LISBON TREATY RATIFICATION
Sign here, from all around the world:
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June 19th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Engineers and architects say inside job. They’re experts! Yet Truthers are viewed as loons, extremists, terrorists.
Michelle Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Truth is a HATE CRIME when those who hate the truth make all the laws.
Josh Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:16 am
Wow, nicely put.
June 19th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I wish all you god damn morons would get real jobs and shut your f---ing mouths. It was not an inside job. You do not possess some sort of secret, inside knowledge. You are not important or in any way, shape or form unique. You are suckers. Have fun.
Fayboy Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
hey there mr. vet. if u r a vet, thank you. most of us r not in this to b insiders or “important.” ask yourself this….what if we r right? look at the facts and consider the realities. once you have seen the evidence and viewed it without bias, then tell me i am a fool.
Omega Man Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Vet…….You are the offspring of a NWO scum and a defenseless farm animal. At least you can’t reproduce…ha ha ….. I’ll be seeing you in the cross hairs
joey Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 12:09 am
your f---ing stupid so u believe what the media tells u i guess…. they only tell u whats they r paid to tell u nothing more like the real s--- that happens of course they anit gonna tell u or they would lose your f---ing jobs its all f---ing stupid s--- ,,,,,,,,,,,, and there is some fake news reports to but wait if forgot its not on the news so its not true,,,,, and not real WAKE THE f--- UP A BUILDING DOES NOT FALL LIKE THAT JUST BY A PLANE HITTING IT AND WHAT ABOUT BUILDING 7 NO PLANE HIT IT,,,,,,, YOUR JUST AFAID OF THE TRUTH
heyjoey Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
There were no commercial planes at any of the locations on 9/11. No commercial planes hit anywhere on 9/11.
rogdix Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Yep. Seems like we have to continue emphasizing the difference between “planes” (military drones,) and “commercial planes.”
There were no COMMERCIAL PLANES involved. They were military drones.
rogdix Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Forgot to add the obvious: Since there were no commercial planes, then no commercial planes were hijacked.
Vet Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Wow. Your well thought out, highly reasonable responses really changed my mind. Good work.
June 19th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
You people are all nuts with your 9-11 conspiracy theories. There is no vast conspiracy going on. It was completly possible that the planes and the subsiquent fires could have brought them down. Alot of your claims just are not true. The buildings did not fall at free fall. If you look at the tape they clearly fell slower. Also you no how hard it is to set up a building for demolition. It takes weeks and moths to do it with a completly gutted building with dozens and dozens of holes needed to be drilled. People would have noticed all the drilling going on. You people just have way to much time on your hands. Yeah 30 engineers support your cause but thousands more don’t.
Consider Please. Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Its all in front of you. If you can’t accept it, or consider the reality, then its your own ignorance. There are three crucial things to proving this was not a real terrorist attack.
- Cite Precedent – Lusitania, Gulf of Tonkin, Reichstag
- Scientific evidence and behaviours – Thermite, collapse patterns, historical destruction of skyscrapers by fire
- Testimonies – Explosions at multiple times, the removal of debris, people in the buildings and on the ground conflicting with news articles
- False or misleading statements – 9/11 Commission Report,
People in the media are not allowed or are incapable of having a reasonable debate over an issue which is clearly unresolved in the eyes of a large percentage of the public.
When persecution and condemnation is used to dismiss any debate, dialogue, or constructive discussion on an issue, then the issue is clearly something dangerous to the people in charge.
Omega Man Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
You are clearly retarded “thedissmisser”. The evidence supports the facts that 9-11 was an inside job.
Go crawl back under your rock dumb ass.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 11:45 am
HE CANT EVEN SPELL THE WORK “KNOW”
BUT HE KNOWS IT ALL.
Vigor Mortis Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Yeah… It’s funny when people can call you stupid and they can’t even f---ing spell… To “thedismiser” … first, read a book ore something. Second, lick my sack.
Justin Thought Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am
Hey, he has a point! It would take “weeks and moths to do it with a completly gutted building” — lots of weeks, since those moths can only carry a little, teeny, tiny bit of explosives on each trip.
But if you’d like to look at a little dose of reality, one which especially takes care of the straw-man argument that “that many people couldn’t keep it a secret for so long,” I highly recommend you visit this page: http://911research.wtc7.net/es.....nario.html . Lots of good reading here. And you don’t need to worry about the trolls debunking it, since they can’t read.
Panick Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
please explain WTC7
Harry Thomas Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 2:21 am
people DID notice the sound of power tools prior. there were also power downs. you are just too lazy or too content with your “false” reality to investigate this stuff for yourself
ANYBODY THAT HASNT INVESTIGATED 9/11 FOR THEMSELVES SHOULD NOTE SO HASTY TO DISMISS THE FACTS
We were lied to about 9/11
Omega Man Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
You have a great web site!! Tons of excellent information.
Thanks for doing such a big part in getting the truth out.
shawn sannity Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:55 am
AT LEAST YOU CHANGED YOUR NAME BEFORE YOUR NEXT TROLLISH COMMENT VET ….
THE TRUTH CANNOT BE CONTAINED!
keith Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
9-11 proved the government is a bunch of lying f---in assholes mafioso bitches.
rogdix Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
How do you know how many engineers “don’t?”
Signed:-
An engineer (AE911Truth)
Anonymous Architect Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 10:01 am
This is called “argumentum ad hominem”, Latin for attack on character. This is used in argument when the subject cannot be debated and needs to be redirected to the character of the person making the argument. Please, sir, argue the facts of the case. You will find yourself without a leg to stand on. This is what a structure fire looks like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1OnhSucP8 And this building did not collapse.
Civil Engineer Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
It’s more than 1700 Engineer’s, Architects, students, and scientists. Check out the AE911 web site. I know, I’m one of them.
The building fell within 10% of free fall speed. The building fell symmetrically both the same. Even though the second airplane went through the corner of the building and most of the fuel burned outside the building, it still fell the same as the first. THOSE ARE BIG CLUES!
I could go on to tell you that a military demolition substance (thermite; you need a license to buy it.) was found extensively in the dust. But the truth to this argument is, you don’t want to know the truth. Because if you did, you would go out and seek it, not wait for someone to tell you (or the TV) what the truth is.
I am also a VET, and I love this country and what it’s supposed to represent. I don’t need a bunch of brought off politicians, and suit wearing bubble heads sitting in front of a false set (TV news people) to tell me how and what to think. It’s our duty as a freedom loving citizens to question the gov! Else we won’t have our freedoms.
Asking for an independent investigation of 9-11 is a great start.
History is full, very many examples of gov’s becoming centralized, authoritarian, and printing money until their economies (and workers) are in ruins.
Your the one who started calling people names first. This is a public blog, what response did you expect? Or perhaps you are a troll and that was planned to discredit this blog.
I’m sorry this stuff is outside your belief system, but take responsibility for your own education (or lack thereof). We understand you are scared and angry. So are we.
Get a clue man! Time is running out!
Civil Engineer Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
My mistake. There are over 4500 Engineer’s, Architects, Scientists, and students who are calling for an independent investigation of 9-11.
June 19th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Never fear to speak that truth in the face of a Tyrant. That is the definition of a martyr……
The Tyrants have fooled us into thinking they are the sheep and we are the wolves.
Israel attacked us on 9-11 so we would fight all over the Middle East on their behalf.
Dual citizen Israeli / Americans INSIDE our Government are more loyal to Israel than to America.
GOOGLE : TED OLSEN CALL LIE
GOOGLE : ODIGO WARNING
GOOGLE : UNUSUAL EVACUATIONS
GOOGLE : SILVERSTEIN PULL IT
GOOGLE : DANCING MOSSAD
GOOGLE : MEXICO MOSSAD
GOOGLE : BIN LADEN DENIED 9-11
GOOGLE : ADAM PEARLMAN ADL
GOOGLE : CHENEY JONESREPORT
GOOGLE : NEUTREI KARTA
GOOGLE : ZERO 9/11 DOCUMENTARY
allfineanddandy Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Why not save yourself the trouble and Google the fact that there were no commercial planes on 9/11. To this day not one single piece from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations has ever been verified. Not one single piece. All EIGHT of the black boxes and voice data recorders had NO serial numbers. The NTSB was forbiden at all 4 crash sites because they only collect verifiable debris. Half the “highjackers” were alive and well after 9/11 with one of them having died a year before 9/11. There were no commercial planes on 9/11. Just like the WMD’s in Iraq….all the video, film, home movies, and eyewitnesses were wrong. It was all a lie. Google Amy Goodman and WTC7 video. She was there during the countdown and failed to ever mention that?!!!!
bobbyJ Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:42 am
Neil…..I googled the items you mentioned. Every one of those still maintains the lie that there were commercial planes on 9/11. Every one of them. There were no commercial planes on 9/11. The Zero Documentary is the worst. That man will hear nothing of the sort that there were no commercial planes on 9/11. these are the ultimate gatekeepers
June 20th, 2009 at 1:26 am
I went to Japan,back in 1983,for buisness. I went to a party.Some Japanese guys,brought up Nagasaki and Hiroshima. At the time,I was only 22. I didn’t have a clue,that Roosevelt new about Pearl Harbor and what ever else the Powers that be,had and have done. I stuck up for the Red White and Blue. I got my ass kicked,spent a couple of days in the hospital. So I guess I can say I’m a Vet. So here’s something,from one vet to another,you don’t necessarily have to be indoctrinated,into the New World Order Military,to fight for this country.
And you can believe,in what the New World Order tells ya. But the people are waking up. And remember one thing. People are like elephants,they don’t forget. Especially after they have been taking it up the you know where,for years.
If you stand up for truth,in this time of our countries history,you are a Vet. So people,don’t let these people,who have been indoctrinated,give you a guilt trip. The time is coming,when someone says,I was in Iraq and Afganistan,will not be a cool thing to say. Just remember what the Vets from Nam went through,after they came home.Fighting for a lie,is not cool.Especially with all the info,one has now,at the tip of your finger.
Just remember what Alex has been saying for years,these people at the top,leave the indoctrinated out to dry.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 11:47 am
YOU GOT YOUR ASSS KICKEN IN JAPAN SO NOW YOUR A VET ?
UH, I DONT THINK SO..
IF YOU DIDNT SERVE, YOU AINT s---.
June 20th, 2009 at 1:43 am
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June 20th, 2009 at 9:29 am
The people who continue to believe the official fairytale are doing so out of fear. They don’t want to be branded as tin foil hat wearing kooks or traitors by the mind controlled masses.
June 20th, 2009 at 11:10 am
anyone remember a GASOLINE tanker catching fire and burning through the oakland bridge? lol probably not… it doesnt fit your narrative.
MAD DOG Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 11:50 am
GAS AND KEROSENE ARE 2 DIFFERENT CHEMICALS DUDE.
GAS BURNS MORE QUICKLY AND VIOLENTLY WITH HIGHER TEMPS IN THE FIRE BALLS.
KEROSENE BURNS SLOW AND COOL.
omega Man Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I remember that… It would make sense that a tanker of gasoline on fire with all the oxygen it needs to create an optimum burn, underneath an over pass would weaken the supports enabling the overpass portion to fall.
FUNNY THING though…. Due to our newly defined laws of physics by the 911 commission,
The entire freeway system should have fallen and disintegrated to dust due to the upper portion falling on the lower portion. And it should have been on fire for at least a week afterwords with temperatures still high enough to melt aluminum.
ALSO a stretch of highway say – Interstate WTC 7 – in San Diego should have fallen 7 hours later because… well who knows why. We are not supposed to recognize that.
ROFL – please help explain why there wasn’t much more destruction due to the fire and falling concrete and steel using 911 commission reasoning. Thanks
June 20th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
You people are all nuts. Why do you waste your time on this nonsense when there are so many bigger real issues you should be focusing on. I go on these nuts conspiracy web sites just to get some laughs. Also I beleive although most of the articles you post are wrong just maybe some of the articles will have some truths in them that the mainstream media won’t report because even a fool finds the truth sometimes.
Omega Man Reply:
June 20th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
There’s plenty of truthful scientific data that supports why I believe that 9-11 was an inside job. You are either a rham emanuel disinformation bitch and/or just a complete dumb ass.
You don’t have any answers. You just criticize us normal people for using our brains.
WTC 7 – why did it fall? You should be able to answer that easily
Justin Thought Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 10:52 am
I say again: two thousand years ago, a good man’s soul went for about 30 pieces of silver. What’s the going rate now, dismisser?
Google “Operation Mockingbird.” I think that will explain about 1/3 of the posts on this site.
June 20th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
“Only Explosives Can Explain 9/11 World Trade Center Destruction”: The reason that explosives were used at the WTC’s, the Pentagon, and Shanksville is because there were no commercial planes on 9/11.
Marlboro Man Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:14 am
What I,d like to know is where are the people who were on those flights ?????
tommy Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Good question? Have you seen the airport security videos of the passengers getting on the “planes” at any of the 4 locations from any of the 4 “planes” on 9/11?
Where are the soldiers from the Gulf of Tonkin? Where are the downed planes from Pearl Harbor? Where are the WMD’s from Iraq? Where are the test results from the debris at OKCity in 1995? The whereabouts of the 256 “passengers” takes a back seat when the physical verification of the planes themselves has never been established.
June 20th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Why then wont google chrome let me open this page on Alex’s site? Ive had to use another browser to read this page.
When i saw what happened on tv i knew the world was never going to be the same again and that something just wasnt right about it and the way the towers fell.
Keep up the good work Alex : )
June 21st, 2009 at 1:52 am
9/11 Talking Points
The Towers
No steel framed building before or since 9/11 has ever collapsed due to fire.
NORAD
Multiple air defense drills were planned for the morning of 9/11. These exercises left only two fighter jets available to protect the entire Northeastern United States.
From September 2000 to June 2001 fighter jets intercepted planes 67 times when they went off course yet our air defense protocol suddenly failed 4 times on 9/11. On the floor of the U.S senate, Sen. Mark Dayton accused the Air Force of “lying to the American people and Congress” and sending F-15’s “in the wrong direction.” How could this have happened without collusion from within?
Flight 93
There was no visible airplane debris where Flight 93 supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania, only a smoking hole in the ground, much like a bomb crater.
After Action
9/11 was immediately declared an “act of war” by President Bush. The rubble from the Twin Towers collapse at Ground Zero was carted away and the steel sold and shipped to China and melted down without examination. Is this a “normal” was to treat a crime scene? Especially of this magnitude.
The Pentagon
No 747 aircraft parts were found at the Pentagon.
How could Hani Hanjour, who couldn’t even fly a Cessna according to flight instructors, make a 7,000 ft. descent and a 270 degree turn at 400 mph when even experienced pilots doubt they could make this maneuver? CNN correspondent Jamie McIntyre reporting live from the Pentagon stated that there was no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the building.
Victims
Accepting victims compensation barred 9/11 families from further discovery through litigation.
The EPA, the City of New York, and the CDC said that the air quality at Ground Zero was perfectly safe and no worse than second hand smoke. They urged people to go back to work and back to their homes. Yet 20 something of the First Responders have died in the last year due to respiratory illness directly related to harmful chemicals released in the air that day. What’s worse they were warned by other scientist that the air was not safe. Worse still, the Government has systematically denied taking care of these heroes while using them as Photo Ops in the days after 9/11.
Unreleased Evidence
Testimony by FBI translator Sibel Edmonds revealing foreknowledge of 9/11 and infiltration of the department by a foreign operative
Air traffic controller tapes revealing details about the hijackings
Black boxes which would reveal important flight details
Government
Attorney General John Ashcroft was warned in July 2001 not to fly commercial airlines, and Pentagon officials were warned not to fly on 9/11 and canceled their flights. The neo-cons ultra right wing think tank called “Project For A New American Century” wrote an influential policy paper titled REBUILDING AMERICAS DEFENSES which stated “The Process of [military] transformation is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic event – like a New Pearl Harbor.” This document was signed by Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz. The Government violated its own “no fly” order to hurriedly fly the Bin Laden family out of the United States before they could be questioned.
Why did the Secret Service not whisk the president away from the school where he and the students read about a pet goat even after it become clear that the nation was under attack?
Marvin Bush, George’s brother, was an officer of the security company for the WTC.
Intelligence
The CIA met with Osama Bin Laden in a hospital in Dubai in July 2001 while he was on “the most” wanted list.
Osama Bin Laden was a known CIA asset.
The CIA surveillance program “ABLE DANGER” were tracking at least 4 of the alleged hijackers since at least 1999.
The Patriot Act
The PATRIOT act was written before 9/11, passed in less than 6 weeks without being read by Congress and has serious violations of the Constitution.
The Hijackers
FBI director Robert Mueller later admitted twice in CNN that there was documented proof of the alleged hijacker’s identities. Why has this gone unreported in the American press?
Several of the alleged hijackers lived at the Pensacola Florida Naval Air Station.
Implications
9/11 has been used as a pretext for war
9/11 has been used to undermine our civil liberties
9/11 has been used to crush dissent
9/11 has been used to create HOMELAND SECURITY
to establish “full spectrum dominance”
ritametermaid Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:14 am
“No steel framed building before or since 9/11 has ever collapsed due to fire”: That’s correct. Because there were no commercial planes on 9/11 demolitions were used at all 4 crash sites.
“Multiple air defense drills were planned for the morning of 9/11” : That’s correct. There were over 25! Terrorist training drills being run on the morning of 9/11. Including one at the Pentagon of a plane crashing into it. That is why Rumsfeld was that first on the scene at the Pentagon “crash”. The multiple drills were to provide a backdrop for plausible deniability among leadership and the criminals. This will only become apparent once the truth of 9/11 reaches a critical mass….which has yet to happen.
“our air defense protocol suddenly failed 4 times on 9/11.” : It did not fail….it did exactly what it was ordered to do. There were no commercial planes on 9/11….therefore NORAD’s defenses worked perfectly because there was nothing commercial to shoot down or intercept.
ritaagain Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:37 am
“No 747 aircraft parts were found at the Pentagon” : No verifiable aircraft parts have ever been found at ANY of the 4 locations from ANY of the 4 planes from 9/11. Nothing. Not one single piece. Why? Because there were no commercial planes on 9/11. It was all a lie.
“Accepting victim’s compensation barred 9/11 families from further discovery through litigation”: This is known in the money laundering world as a “separation scam”. Unbeknownst to the families the cases continued and trillions of dollars were laundered from these conspired criminal litigations. On the Shanksville “plane” not one single family member accepted a single penny! What does that mean? Look very closely at that flight list and try to contact any of those family members……..
“Black boxes which would reveal important flight details” : None of the supposed black boxes OR voice data recorders have serial numbers on them. Let me repeat….ALL EIGHT boxes and VDR’s have nothing on them to verify them….these boxes could have come from anywhere. Only one time in aviation history has it happened before…..and it happened EIGHT times in one day on 9/11!
June 21st, 2009 at 1:56 am
My Pentagon contact says it was no plane that hit the Pentagon. Scary times.
June 21st, 2009 at 10:02 am
Just ask April Gallop. She was a Pentagon worker who was paid a visit by the FBI in the hospital immediately follwing the explosions. They told her to “take the money, keep her mouth shut, and there WAS a plane!”
There were no commercial planes at any of the 4 locations on 9/11. It implicates many though the US military corporate owned media should fair the worse after all is said and done?
June 21st, 2009 at 11:01 am
At the time of the OKC bombing, I was at home due to being laid off of work and watched the whole thing on TV. I still remember to this day the explicit mentioning of bombs being found in the wreckage and rescue personnel being told to evacuate.
Fast forward to 911. I was also at home that day due to a broken ankle and again, watched that fiasco unfold on TV.
I watched those towers fall. And the first thing that came to my mind when those towers fell, was that this is impossible. They both are falling right into their own footprints just like a controlled drop. I was also mystified by watching the top of the tower, just above the aircraft impact, start to topple over to the side, when suddenly … boom boom boom … the rest of the building below it just started dropping as if on cue which prevented the top section from further falling off to the side.
I also distinctly remember, as during the OKC bombing, explicit mentioning of bombs going off and rescue personnel being evacuated.
Now, something to note here. During both of these bombings, you heard explicit references by rescue personnel, the mentioning of bombs, bombs going off, and evacuations because of bombs. The next day, they were never mentioned again that I can recall.
flunking Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:11 am
“I was also mystified by watching the top of the tower, just above the aircraft impact” : There were NO commercial aircraft at any of the 4 locations on 9/11. Stop using the lie you were fed. Exposing no commercial planes on 9/11 reveals the entire lie of a criminal government, military owned US media, US corporations, and US military complex. There were NO commercial planes on 9/11.
Christine Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Are you saying there were no planes AT ALL?
jupiter Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 9:56 am
There were no commercial planes on 9/11. Meaning the official story and everything and every decision from it was based on the idea that planes with people on them crashed at 4 locations from 4 planes on 9/11. That is a lie….again. There were no commercial planes on 9/11. It is essential to continue the lie in NYC because it would immediately expose the US military corporation owned media as a direct conspirator to the actions and events of 9/11.
My life has now been threatened. Everyone I know who has researched this information and has come forward to declare that there were no commercial planes on 9/11 is being mysteriously killed. I will continue to write and post as long as I can. All my computer information has long since been protected, backed-up, and secured with detailed instructions to many should I be found “missing” in any way.
Alex…..I have been writing on your site for several years now. You know my IP address. Contact me?!! I have video/audio of agents threatening me. Would you like to see it?
June 21st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
To the dismisser and vet, go back to watching Fox News with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other.
thedismisser Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Maybe you should stop listening to stuff on this crazy site. It is funny that you believe 9-11 was an inside job when there simply is no true good evidence that this is the case. You say you have good eveidence that 9-11 was an inside job. Well here’s a queation. If you had a court case that would decide whether the official story was true or not. The jury would have never heard of 9-11 and have never been indoctrinated by the media as you claim but only heard of 9-11 in the courtroom from the people who support the official story and you people who deny it. Is your eveidence and reasoning good enough to win this case if you both had equal time to present your case. In my opinion the answer is a definite no. Your evidence just is not that good.
Justin Thought Reply:
June 21st, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Oh, my, eyes wide shut. Start here: http://911research.wtc7.net/es.....idues.html for the most damning piece of evidence. Absolutely no way you can explain thermite being in the buildings’ dust, and therefore being in the buildings.
I don’t put this here for the dismisser, because I KNOW he won’t read it, but maybe others will. It IS kinda tough reading. Maybe we could get Tom Clancy to rewrite it.
tinman Reply:
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 am
hello??? thedismisser ??? where are your comments on the thermite ??? Where is your theory? Hello???
June 22nd, 2009 at 9:50 am
People who say our gov. wouldn’t do that are closed minded fools.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
Gimme a break! You kooks think you know engineering now? Sorry liberal kook brains are not logical. They are dramatic. Go write a screen play and leave the engineering to the adults.
June 22nd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
The United States government is the number one terrorist organization in the world. It is a thoroughly corrupt operation and has been this way for over fifty years. Our two-faced, one party system known as the Replicratic Party has two primary planks in the pursuit of its power: Greed and Narcissism (”We want power via stolen wealth from the people” and “we are never guilty of any wrongdoing. Ever.”).
How to fix the system?
1. Overthrow the two-faced, one party system by voting for third party candidates or run for office yourself (yes you can do it).
2. Talk openly about government corruption at EVERY opportunity when meeting other people in your community (when shopping, going to meetings, going to church, etc..) — make sure you can be overheard by others. It’s time to come out into the daylight to be seen and heard.
3. Memorize the first ten Bill of Rights in the United States Constitution. Then link today’s constitutional abuses of power to any of these basic Bill of Rights legal freedoms and tell others that politicians WILL be held responsible for acts of treason, abuse of power, and not upholding the oath of office to defend the United States Constitution. These elected pimps and whores ARE going to jail. PERIOD.
4. Get off your lazy apathetic asses and join other groups that need your participation in overthrowing (via future elections) the United States Congress (both houses). Groups can be found in your area by joining any number of political groups at Meetup.Com. Get involved now!
Your thoughts please.
Tom
Mark Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Treason is Punishable by Death I got a Rope and a good Tall Oak We can hang them here
June 22nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT – SENSITIVE INFORMATION
This incredible documentary on YouTube proves no plane hit the Pentagon. More damaging evidence proving 9/11 was an inside job. Wake up sheeple. Your masters are not kind hearted.
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
The new world order will win .. dont waster your time.. the president is a t-1000 terminator and his creator has programmed to kill everything that lives .. he has m16 attached to his metalic ribs.
June 22nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Hey Freemon Sandlewould
Go back to watching Fox News with a beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other.
Anybody with a basic knowledge of physics knows that those buildings could not have come down the way they did as a result of structural damage.
June 22nd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
LET US NOT FORget Barry Jennings said he stepped over bodies before the collapse and what happened to BJ murdered just like Paul Wellston Murder redrum redrum redrum. Pat TILLMAN THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
We will always know that Thermate was the explosive used in the 911 twin towers!! As they had the people and workers to return to the building to boost the death rate up!! And then they also murdered the firemen in cold blood !! But don’t worry!! The Great God of Heaven saw it all and He took more of them to heaven than normal because of the circumstances!! God is very considerate!! But those murderous new world order antichrist globalist will not have any mercy from God!! They will be in the worst parts of hell imaginable!!
He will not forgive them of their horrible murders and assasinations because they have did it to murder more people!! Like 1 million plus Iraquis and Afghans!! God will require their blood in full and their tormentings will be excruciatingly agonizing to the greatest degree imaginable!! Just like their daddy lucifer will be in the bottomless pit of fire and brimstone!! As he is free-falling with those of them that follow him and his wicked and murderous and genocidal commands!!
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Take a closer look at the pictures.
The mint green 1954 BelAire did not come with positraction.
June 22nd, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Watch the news vids and measure the SIZE OF THE FIREBALLS from the planes crashing into the Twin Towers.
Watch “old” test crash vids of fully fueled airliners crashing and MEASURE THE SIZE OF THE FIREBALLS.
The mint green 1954 BelAire did not come with pozitraction, but the Pontiac did.
It’s spelled Callo with a C, not Gallo with a G your honor.
bogus Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 9:47 am
There were no commercial planes on 9/11.
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Hey to all you infowariors who are getting (rightfully) pissed at Vet and thedismisser just remember this. We surround them. WE SURROUND THEM!!!
thedismisser Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
Shut up all 500 of you conspiracy theorists. Who do you think you are Glen Beck.
bill Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Thedismisser is a government troll that sucks their balls for a living!!!
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I will say this Our Government indeed has some verry evil People
I personally believe The Italian mafia has controlled our government since the death of Kennedy
Look around people You see that most important or wealthy people in this nation are either Italian or serving Italians in one form or another
However I must tell you that A jet could indeed cause the type of destruction in the twin towers
Not saying government didnt have anything to do with it cause I think they did
Let me explain to you that Every Highrise building has what is supposed to be escape route thru stairs supposed to be fire proof and has stair pressurization fans to keep doors slammed shut
The pressurization is provide by a flak fan that moves approximately 2000 cfm per floor and is 100 percent fresh air. This said If the stairs was violated would be like running all the fuel at once thru 10 jet engines and could collapse anything made
Civil Engineer Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 9:41 am
An explosion of fuel is not enough to bring down a modern designed building or bridge. The heat must stay concentrated for a long time 1 to 2 hours (or more), and be a very high temp.. Look at the video from the building in Spain.
Airplanes (jets) are light. Basically, hollow aluminum tubes with very little mass as compared to the building support columns. The engines do indeed have some mass but there is not enough of them to bring down a building.
Anyway, I a flash burn of fuel (especially low temp )could not do catastrophic structural damage to any modern structure. In fact, they are designed to prevent sudden collapse. Yes even from airplane impacts.
starting Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Civil…..there were no commercial planes on 9/11. It was a fabricated lie involving the US military, government, corporations, and the US military corporation owned media. With no commercial planes it means every decision and action from 9/11 is based on a lie….patriot act, preemptive wars, torture, renditions, military commission, TSA, Homeland Security…all of it.
Civil Engineer Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I hear what your saying. Maybe the airplanes were military or just holograms. But that point is irrelevant to the way the buildings collapsed. And of course to WTC7.
Don’t let the issue of the airplanes distract from the call to re-investigate 9-11!
starting Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
If there were no commercial planes on 9/11….then ALL of 9/11 and every decision from it is based on a fabricated lie. It would be irrelevant to have a “re-investigation” because there were NO commercial planes. Of course the buildings were detonated…there was no jet fuel because there were no commercial planes. There is no need for another wasteful and useless investigation…you already know the results.
The only thing that matters are the planes of 9/11. That’s what 9/11 was! 9/11 was not about buildings…it was about the “terrorists” highjacking commercial airliners. When there are no commercial planes on 9/11…..9/11 is then based on a lie regardless of how many buildings fell at free fall speed. By the way…who is paying for this re-investigation? What evidence are you verifying? Who’s on the board? If they find a crime will there be charges? What if it simply says the opposite of the first investigation…wouldn’t that simply cancel each other out?
There were no commercial planes on 9/11. No investigation of how criminal your military, government, military contractor owned US media, and US corporations is needed. They lied and covered up the fact that there were no commercial planes on 9/11.
June 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Fuel times CFM oxygen = Temp
June 29th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Starting:
One again I hear what your saying and in general I don’t disagree.
But I respectfully disagree on one point: The the investigation of how and why the buildings collapsed is not irrelevant. It is relevant to show the ignorant masses how they are being deceived. It’s relevant as a starting point because it’s easy to prove, unlike the airplane issue. But I would hope this too would come out as a though investigation takes its logical course.
I would hope that lawful prosecutions would follow the independent investigation. But once again, I cannot disagree with your questions on how this would happen. Certainly the same questions would apply even if the investigation centered around the airplanes.
You are right, there are powerful large organizations that don’t want the info out there, and therefore, would (are) resisting the call for an independent investigation.
Unfortunately, as we move into the Greater Depression, the issues of 9-11, and its importance, will diminish. So I’m not holding my breath waiting for this investigation to occur.
Keep up the good work!
Good Luck!