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81-year-old Tasered by Eielson Air Force Base police
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Chris Freiberg
Daily News-Miner
November 3, 2009
Editor’s note: Why is the Eielson Air Force Base’s 354th Security Forces Squadron patrolling a civilian highway? Posse Comitatus is indeed dead.
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It is the second time since 1998 that police have had to make a show of force during a traffic stop to arrest Glen M. Wilcox, a Fairbanks-based Episcopalian priest and real estate agent.
Court documents allege that officers with Eielson Air Force Base’s 354th Security Forces Squadron pulled Wilcox over just after 1 p.m. Wednesday for going 11 miles over the speed limit on the Richardson Highway.
An officer, identified as a senior airman in court documents, took Wilcox’s license, registration and proof of insurance and wrote him a traffic citation. When he returned to Wilcox’s car, Wilcox refused to accept the documents and sped down the highway, according to a criminal complaint filed in court.
Wilcox disputes that version of events.
“They waved to me and I thought that meant I could go on,” Wilcox said. “They stopped me again and told me to get out of my car.”
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November 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Stop it. Who cares if you get first?
deerslayer Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
thank you
solong Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Uh, stupid editor…Uh, the highway is on DOD land…DUH!!!
Gee this site is full of such disinfo, you guys do the research yourself and see that the highway is not civy, it is on military land!
Well, what are you waiting for, go do it! otherwise don’t bother replying you AJ sheep!
Pedro Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Who gives a shit if it happened on DOD land! The point of the story is that an 81 year old man was tasered by four 20 year old cops while lying on the ground dipshit! It gives good insight into the mentality of these steroid heads.
I know a lot of older men and women that are very gruff and poignant – do they need to be tasered because the stupid cop feels insulted or threatened by an overbearing demeanor?
People like you piss me off!!!!!!!
woot Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Out of the handful of people that get onto sites like this that actually seek the truth need to exploit sites like yahoo.com with their POPULAR SEARCHES feature. Type in phrases like NWO, DEATH OF THE DOLLAR, COPENHAGEN, and the like and see if it gets on the listed feature. Lead them to the door and let THEM open it…..
intheknow Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
1. If the roadway is outside the fence line, but still on military property, the Security Forces have full jurisdiction to patrol those areas.
2. If physically dealing with an 81-year-old male, there is much more of a likelihood that permanent physical harm will occur to him when going “hands-on” in order to restrain the suspect. The person being taken into custody actions determine the level of force police use, not the other way around. Think about it, it would have been worse to strike this guy causing trauma.
I have full confidence in his abilities with doing the job. With 23 years experience in doing police work (both military and civilian) the biggest lesson learned is this; People with no direct knowledge in policy’s and procedures, first hand knowledge of the incident in question, or the mindset of the people involved are in no way in any position to pass judgement on any of the involved parties. Commonly refered to as “20/20 hindsight” is something that is commonly twisted by persons that think they have a clue into direct knowledge.
Use of force is aa area that causes a tremendous amount of deep seeded feelings on both sides of the fense. As an Officer, the primary mission is to protect and serve, but also to go home at the end of your tour. When dealing with a suspect, the suspect determines the level of force utilized by the officer. The level of force is equal 1. I am not getting into explaining the Use of Force, but if you are not familiar with it, I would suggest you review it first before rendering judgement.
Yes can I take an 81 year-old-male into custody without utilizing a taser? I would say yes, but then again I’ve been in Law Enforcement for 23 years. I’ve learned a few more tricks over time. Would I hessitate to use elevated force on this guy when taking him into custody. If I felt it was appropriate or needed, I wouldn’t think twice about it.
On several occations I have spoken to him about situations he has been involved in. As I have following this one. I have no problem with this. The Arrestee dictates the Use of Force utilized to bring the arrest to a safe completion.
Dusty Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
This website has easy step-by-step instructions on how to make DVD copies of Alex’s “Fall of the Republic” that will play on even cheap home DVD players.
http://www.thetinyspark.com
-Dusty
Fed Gov Owns No Land Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
The Federal Government owns no land. It is not possible for the Federal Government to own land. YOU own the land, YOU own the Federal Government. Get used to the reality, not the bullshit the propaganda people spew at you all day.
Military Police have no jurisdiction over anyone who is outside a security perimeter. IF the highway crosses DOD land but does not go through a gate, the Alaskan police have jurisdiction. Morons.
BobLeeSwagger Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
But up here the military gets ALOT of leeway from the locals (Anchorage in particular is full of moronic little asshats just begging to polish the local military boots with their tongues- most of these GI Joes go to take a shit and they dont need TP, cause some slobbering little sychophant is waiting to lick their cornhole clean). It don’t make it right, but it does explain why they were off the installation (since most AK State troopers are individually responsible for areas the size of rhode island).
I See Nothing Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
the fed own alot of land in the West like in Arizona, Most of it is owned so they can bury the Bodies of the truthers. SO the rumor goes around out West. Totally disgusting rumour.
Oathkeeper84 Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Actually, unless this incident occurred on post they don’t have jurisdiction. The ONLY land that can be claimed as “DoD” land would be that of what is inside the gates. This would be obvious. Civilians can’t be stopped by military personnel on a public highway. Besides the point, the issue is the old man being tasered.
BobLeeSwagger Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Oh I totally agree oathkeeper- the stop was totally illegal as they have no more jurisdiction on non-base land than the AK state troopers have on a military installation. But these people are such idiots, they don’t have a clue to raise hell about. If this is where I think it was, it was on the stretch of the Richardson that runs by the bases and its not sparsely populated. I’m disgusted this happened here and people aren’t screming bloody murder. Not a peep or a mutter in the local news.
solong Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Thank you paranoid freaks for proving my point about being chicken littles “the sky is falling”
You failed to do the research I asked of you and you are all 100% WRONG!!!!
Go back to school you nimrods!!!
To the person who uses Bob Lee Swagger’s character name, you are a disgrace to that character and an insult to the author!
JJ Alaska Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
The Richardson Highway is one of our oldest highways, and NOT ON BASE and NOT DOD LAND.
The Glenn Highway also cuts of part of Ft Rich near Anchorage and that part of the highway is also NOT DOD OR ON BASE.
This will very quickly turn to shotting if it happens again, men are armed with camera and guns monitoring the area to see if they can catch them at it again.
Also Glen WIlcox is a very nice man and nearly DEAF as well, that has served Alaska for many years is a strong patriot and community servent. A former commander of CAP which is search and rescue. And he knows first hand Airforce personnel can not do thhat crap, Would you take a young punk on a local HIGHWAY, where he has no lawful authority seriously ?? I sure wouldn’t and most up here won’t and will NOT tolerate it.
. Reply:
November 7th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Well gosh i guess i’ll go to NEVADA and get as close to area 51 as i can without going in the gate and see what happens since it’s not government land.
Hmmmmmmm will they taser me???????
River Rat Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Why was civilian police rushed in at Ft Hood to kill shoter and not the MP’s.
Stupid SP's never learn Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 4:28 am
Oh, it has been a time or two that the boomers and Crew Chiefs knocked some SP heads around, but after this stunt on an old man who is not a threat to anyone the POG SP’s in the 364th will get some teeth knocked out for sure.
Plus its another excuse just to kick some SP ass when they act so tough and most of the time they lose to some wrench turners. =)
Justice comes in many forms, soon Justice will come to the 34th, but in a hurtful way.
haha
opie Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Sounds like this 81 year old may have the beginnings of Alzheimer’s, senility, or dementia. After this 2nd incident it may be prudent to have him tested by a highly rated psychiatrist/neurologist.
Please people…do NOT respond to this post if your response is going to be anything like, “Oh NO WAY does this guy I don’t even know, who is 81 and now has a ‘history’ of altercations with law enforcement have any of those things! This guy is a top citizen with no shred of disease MAN! It’s just the government trying to keep an old guy down! This guy that I don’t even know is awesome! He is the greatest guy in the world and is clearly the victim of forces he cannot control, rather than the victim of the passing of time and old age!”
Get the facts, assess them with reason and logic, formulate a cogent thought, then POST!
ussa Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 11:59 am
funny how you sit around here reading and posting your shit but have no place else to go. what a LOSER..haha
River Rat Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:53 am
USSa, your here.
Tree Hugging Lib Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 12:09 am
Hey solong do a little research yourself. Google Black Elk vs the U.S…. When your done reading the Supreme Courts ruling change your name to DickwithEars
joe blow Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:04 am
it is bad elk
Solong Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Tree Hugging Lib,
you fail with your discredited internet cite.
Change your name to sub-moron
Chaosrising Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
dod land?
hogwash…military is not civilian law enforcrment..and did the dod place any warning signs pertaining to the fact the highway is on dod property?
likely not…the more pressing concern needs to be that if the area is on dod property it needs to wan the public that they are crossing federal lands…hey not all people in our tarnished government are bad guys, and without the good people the bad guys can’t hide in plain sight…if anyone in that area has not thought to investigate and see if its posted as federal dod land then mebbe you should, if its not posted they need to inform the public that it is federal dod-land and start posting it.
BD Mcgee Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Hey solong
U need to change your name to solow that is your IQ, you need to do the research just because a highway or any public thoroughfare is on DOD land does not give the military police jurisdiction over a civi. The only time military police have jurisdiction in a non-emergency over a civi is ON A MILITARY BASE ONLY.
ROBIN_HOOD Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:53 am
fukin troll
Rick Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Solong get your facts straight the Richardson highway is public property owned by the state of Alaska and not on base. What they did was in direct contradition to The Posse Comitatus Act.
Anyway what are you saying it’s ok for 4 20+ year old men to tazer an 81 year old? If it happened to your grandad would you just say tough shit grandad?
Nohea Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Did you not read the part 81 year old man was lasered??? I sure hope they dont send those guys to Iran or Afghan bunch of brain dead sissy’s.
uhlijohn Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
what difference does it make if he was on dod land or not, asshole? they still tasered an 81 year old man! i suppose you think it’s ok to be tasered by each and every fascist pig of a cop, do you? you slimeball! you must be one of the centcom or northcom disinfo agents alex talks about. why don’t you stay on little green footballs pro-zionist site and stay off infowars, you asshole?
Are you kidding me? Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
If the people being tased would stop being assholes, they wouldn’t get tased.
AL Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 8:24 am
lou dobbs and glenn beck targeted by assasins media lied glenn was shot yesterday whatdoesitmean.com al
ANNIE Reply:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:05 am
google ert..EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM; they stormed a mall in pinellas county florida. all six thug like aggressors. practicing something are we boys. why did you not buy something instead of just scaring shoppers and patrons. why did you have to slink down an emergency exit when confronted?? intimidate me and i snitch even louder and with boldness. uniforms; navy shirts with white logo, tucked into navy pants, belt, military style boots with pants tucked into them. ps pals……….would have found a couple of you rather hot had it not been for your nasty military attitudes. you waiting for THE DAY? Excited for same?????????????????????and so are we!!!!!!!! ARMY OF YHVH TAMPA BAY FLORIDA wearing armor of a different sort. 77 12
InvestigatEverything Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Just another example of the police state that has developed in this country. As a good rule of thumb, ask the officer if you are free to go. Watch videos of CheckPointUSA on youtube for a great example of this. Everyone should check out his vids.
Magna Carta Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Thank you that was refreshing text, but remember it is only text, Real laws of nature are the strongest which is why Human Survival is the real and only laws to think of.
in another words a tyrant monoply that injures you which is a crime, since we all need space to live in, so why be so harsh, which is why food is so crapy and cancer is giong up
10:51 AM
the good thing is people are awake to this market now unlike the 30s crash
10:52 AM
and will communicate with others for a remedy, which is why ammo box sale are up if the ballot box dose not make banks give out FRNs for life support.
10:53 AM
the people are ready for Natural Law of Survival wich means the Dark ages of hunting and gathering, most likely hunting the politics / bank first.
10:55 AM
and based on the internet info age the elected and bank know this which is why they keep implementing marshall laws to control the injuries that will come soon if people dont get the remedies and need to go into survival mode…
first! Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
It’s just a bit of harmless fun. Stop being such a stiff.
Stop getting first Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
This website is not dedicated to the perpetuation and survival of our “fun.”
If you have something important to say, say it. But keep it on topic. This whole “firster” nonesense started showing up a few months ago, and I have kept quiet. But god dammit, when you go to every single article and just type 1ST! On all of them you are taking away from the article. Dont act like its just “fun,” because you are the only person who gets any thrill from it.
I mean, Christ man, dont you (or any other firsters) have anything better to do than sit at infowars all day and wait for a new article to pop up so you can tag it and have some fun?
Look here is all im saying: Stop being such a god damn bother to everyone on the site. Read the article, make a comment that is related to article (if you want) and leave site, and go do something about it.
Its just so damn childish. ya, know?
first! Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
You are letting it take away from the article by acknowledging that the firsters bother you. Fuel for the fire, bro. There are always at least two sides to an argument.
Stop getting first Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Dude, you treat the website like its a game for god sake!
O! I hope i get first on this article! weeee!
This isnt a matter of two sides of an arguement. YOUR NOT POSTING AN ARGUEMENT! There is no justification in what you are doing. You are just doing it for the lol’s.
I am not stiff. Jeez, I Love a good joke as much as the next guy, but saying 1st! is not entertaining.. to anyone.. at all. Except for yourself. If you are going to entertain make it relevant to the topic, or stop. When you post first on every article it clearly has nothing to do with the article. Its just a competition to you.
This has nothing to do with drinking the Kool aid. This has to do with posting comments that are completely irrelevant to the article. And seeing as how people have clearly asked you (and told you) to stop, but you continue to refuse, you are at fault. Not someone saying that it is bothersome that you post 1st.
Do you see what im saying? These articles are serious. Do you even read them first? or just scroll the whole length of the article and get to the bottom so you can type your comment?
Well, on behalf of everyone, I am asking you to stop. It doesnt add to the article, it only subtracts.
So, with that being said, Please stop. I, and many others would appreciate it.
tom slick Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
go play your video games twirp.
b Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
The only reason the “first” comments bother you fucktards is because you let it. Jesus, ignore it and write your comment… or fuck off. Your choice.
Rhonda Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Stop Getting First,
I feel that technically although you are correct about the purpose of this comment section, I feel that as long as someone like First just tries to lighten things up, it is something that could be good for us all. Now if he created arguments, then he should be scorned upon, otherwise it might be good if you look for other posts to see if the trouble that you believe First is creating is actually happneing.
I attempt to do what First does many times, i.e. lightening things up. Yes, the format of this place is hard core, hard core enough to where me, a woman, just showing up sometimes is seen as a threat, but then I still feel that if someone can lighten up somewhat, maybe the comments in the future could be better thought out. Therefore I suggest that if you are really bothered by the “first” comments on a topic, that maybe you try to do it and see how you feel. Then go from there.
Rhonda
Me first Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
First, I’m with you brother.
Sheesh, these people need to stop being so stiff and hyped up. They are too busy drinking the AJ cool-aid….”oh yeah!” (fat ass alex seen breaking through a brick wall)
saturnx311 Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
I honestly wonder how old you 1st! people are. I don’t say this lightly, because it is such a childish, immature thing to do, and you are trying to draw attention to YOURSELF, and away from the message of the articles.
As if you don’t care how serious the subject matter is. Please, go to facebook and do that. Get it out of your system there, because that is surely a site that caters to fluff.
It is not mature to start namecalling and deflecting when you know you’re wrong. Have some humility and take this criticism constructively.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
when do we say enoughs eonugh
roaddog6 Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
my question exactly.
TALKTALK Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I’m saying it! Enough is enough! It shouldn’t be a question. It should be a statement….Enough is enough! But don’t worry, you will all just sit here at your computer and type your rants. Do any of us truly believe our e-mail addressses are not being recorded? Do any of us believe that making comments about how messed up things are is going to change anything. they are laughing at us….hello. It is going to be too late. They ARE NOT STOPPING! THEY ARE INCREASING THE INTIMIDATION NOT REDUCEING IT! If it wasn’t effective they would be easing off. If we really posed a threat to their empire then they would be quiet about it. But they are out in the open with it. They know that all we do is stock up on food and weapons and practice small unit tactics in the backcountry. OOOOOOOO! Scary,lol!
Me first Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Is Eight Enough?? Wah, wah, waaaaaaah.
Fed Gov Owns No Land Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
How did Mel Gibson get into this story?
tom slick Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 pm
well what are we going to do? ok everybody. here’s the deal. we’re all gonna meet up at joe’s cafe on the corner of martin luther king and abe lincoln streets in downtown d.c. tomorrow at noon. then we’re gonna take the capitol building. bring your pea shooters.
Craig Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
This article should answer your question!
http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg145.htm
Keep in mind that this rticle is written by a retired police officer – speaks volumes!
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Bloodthirsty.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
first!
ACJohansen Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Fail.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Rothschild says… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhfjSM-pgsk
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Sickening.
Oh wait, morality is “always agreeing with what the government says” or at least shrugging and saying “that’s just the way it is.”
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Thank you that was refreshing text, but remember it is only text, Real laws of nature are the strongest which is why Human Survival is the real and only laws to think of.
in another words a tyrant monoply that injures you which is a crime, since we all need space to live in, so why be so harsh, which is why food is so crapy and cancer is giong up
10:51 AM
the good thing is people are awake to this market now unlike the 30s crash
10:52 AM
and will communicate with others for a remedy, which is why ammo box sale are up if the ballot box dose not make banks give out FRNs for life support.
10:53 AM
the people are ready for Natural Law of Survival wich means the Dark ages of hunting and gathering, most likely hunting the politics / bank first.
10:55 AM
and based on the internet info age the elected and bank know this which is why they keep implementing marshall laws to control the injuries that will come soon if people dont get the remedies and need to go into survival mode
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 pm
THAT’S HOW IT IS WITH A LOT OF THE BRAINWASHED COPS TASERING A PRIEST THINKING THAT WE ARE THE ENEMY. IF WE CAN’T GET THE COPS AND THE MILITARY TO BACK OUR MILITIAS(ALL OF THEM AND THE ONES WHO WON’T CAN STAND ASIDE) WELL IT’S GOING TO BE A LONG YEAR AND A SUICIDEL ATTEMPT TO GET OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS BACK. POWER TO ORGANITE
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 pm
In the case of Posse Comitatus, it is truly alive… the road in front of Eielson AFB is the bases property and they have complete agreement with the Alaskan State Troopers for that jurisdiction. In fact they usually hand incidents over the the AST on that section of the road. I think the section is 6 miles along that road. There are signs to let you know if you are on the bases property.
hologram5 Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
doesn’t matter, it is a US State road in which they don’t have authority. He has all rights to refuse to sign the tickets. I know, I had the same issue with reservation cops in Wash state. They stopped me on state route 20 heading west, told me I was speeding and when they asked me to sign the ticket I said, “NO”. I told them to get a US state trooper and I’d sign his ticket. When I went to court, I told the Judge they had no jurisdiction and since they were a “soveriegn nation”, they had no right giving tickets on a US state route. He had to agree and threw the case out. This case set a precedence and now they are not allowed on state routes.
Billy Mayes Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
You are a trailblazer of hope among a nation of lost people. Jesus said, “Live by the sword, die by the sword. Let he who sites precedence of state routes site the precedence of his own world.” Great guy, that Jesus feller.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
an act of war, pure and simple.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Im nauseous this is where it is >enough<!!!
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
According to the constitution, he didn’t have to stop as they are not authorized police in which to write tickets and patrol US hiways.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
“Magna Carta” what’s up you duplicated your message, which I tried and they refused to let me do that; who do you know and what are you doing. I think the real reason is the content of you message.
I’ve noticed many times what I say this site doesn’t like and mainly because my thoughts are outside the box, the box created by the deceived control freaks. These people connected with this site are offering the same thing the present government offers but packaged slightly different but the fact is these people believe we need someone to rule over us – screw all you control freaks – I RULE!
I have and need NO president, governor, mayor, police etc. Man ruling over man is for the WEAK, rule your own life; rebel, rebel, rebel, rebel, revolt, revolt need I say more? Most of you people are sooooooooo brainwashed and in actuality you’re unable to think for yourselves.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
is there a video connected to this article?
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Mr Wilcox problem is he still is under the illusion that he lives in a “FREE COUNTRY.”
Welp… He just got a lesson in 21st century Political Science!
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Just another article that makes me woinder where the hell the OathKeepers are?
Where is the response from their organization? Where is the press conference in front of the Air Force Base? Where are the open letters of condemnation?
Comrade Bubba Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
EXCELLENT reply!
ooops Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Thank you WakeUp, but they will cowardly reply with their NWO shillness, “We won’t do anything unless the government does something first”. To which I replied, “As I stated before, when are you going to get your keyboard warrior butts out there and keep your oath.
No WakeUp, they will say that IF they are told to do something against their oath, they will not do it. I guess they are going to quit and go home and pout.
What a bunch of pansies!!!
WakeUp Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Yeah, it breaks my heart. The problem, in my opinion, is NOT the thug cops, but really lies with the “good” cops that do nothing about it. They need to take law enforcement back from the bad guys in uniform.
In my opinion, knowing that their fellow officers are breaking their Constitutional oaths and doing noting about it makes them an accessory to the the crimes being committed by their “brothers.” If those thugs know they re being watched from the inside and will be taken down, their behavior will change quickly because they don’t want to be out of work in this economy with no education and an employment record that shows they were fired from law enforcement.
The Oathkeepers need to either stand up or shut up. I for one hope they finally decide to stand up.
WakeUp Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
That other “OathKeeper” article posted right now really gets under my skin. Essentially, they are saying that we wouldn’t have to worry about them doing the same if they were the partner of this thug cop who delivered this Taser shock. That position is USELESS in the defense of the Constitution.
They are then admitting by default that they are STILL oath-BREAKERS. If they fail to stand up against Unconstitutional tyranny among their own ranks, then they are NOT protecting the Constitution, the citizens, or the country at larga against ANYTHING. Looking the other way while claiming that they would disobey an unconstitutional order will do ZERO in the fight to restore Freedom through the elimination of tyranny.
IGNORING tyranny is NO WAY to eliminate it and is CERTAINLY NOT standing up against it.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I haven’t heard anything about this but I’ll look and see if its in the local paper. However the local rag is infamous for covering up misdeads of Alaska’s finest as is the case with one officer who was recently charged with something like 30 sexual assualts on female stopees. If this is the case, its scary because half the damned state population is military.
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November 3rd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
http://theerant.yuku.com/topic.....-tape.html This is what your Lords and Masters uhm I Mean Respected L.E.O.s think about you and I.Any further questions on Why I Pack A.P. rounds?
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
man, how did this government turn the police and military into terrorist maniacs? Were they always this evil from the start? Was it incremental? We the WW2 veterans like this? When they were 20 years old did they beat the crap out of 90 year old men? Can anyone answer this?
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
He is an “Episcopalian priest and real estate agent”. A con artist on both ends, he deserved it.
Smiley Gladhands Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Good point
Fed Gov Owns No Land Reply:
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Sadly true. Moral people don’t sell crap to other people for profit.
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Had enough of the police?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02b4OfJXMXY
November 3rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Im pig sick off this stuff, man !!
Dont let the taser fase you, wake up man, it might amaze yo.
Stand tall fight back and-
Kick em in the balls, there hard to hit cos there so small…………
Cops got crazy
we got lazy
thy f”"k you with there taser next youl get the lazer..
Theyll beat you to a pulp then theyll blame you..
Maybe………
STAND UP FIGHT TALL , WE CAN BEAT THE N>W>O> AFTER ALL.
Yo
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
DEA officer stops at a ranch in Texas , and talks with an old rancher. He tells the rancher, “I need to inspect your ranch for illegally grown drugs.” Gault says, “Okay , but do not go in that field over there,” as he points out the location.
The DEA officer verbally explodes saying, ” Mister, I have the authority of the Federal Government with me.” Reaching into his rear pants pocket, he removes his badge and proudly displays it to Gault. “See this badge? This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish…. On any land. No questions asked or answers given. Have I made myself clear? Do you understand? ”
Gault nods politely, apologizes, and goes about his chores.
A short time later, the old rancher hears loud screams and sees the DEA officer running for his life chased close behind by the rancher’s prize bull.
With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer, and it seems likely that he’ll get ” Horned ” before he reaches safety. The officer is clearly terrified. Gault throws down his tools, runs to the fence and yells at the top of his lungs…..
” Your badge. Show him your BADGE!!!”
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CHUCK Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
F-KING FUNNY
Mitchell Umbdenstock Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
omg excellant . I love it
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Everyone should read the entire article and while you are there, READ the replies.
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
It used to be that elderly folks were respected and treated courteously, and pregnant Moms, (and Moms in general) also garnered respect. Now these idiots are running around moronically pepper-spraying and tasering the shit out of these people. (Don’t forget the Pittsburg incident with those fuckin’ Nazis running around pointing their sound-cannon toy at kids and innocent people on their verandas). You want respect, ya gotta earn it, dipshits!!! What a bunch of sperm-dogs!
November 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Leave it up to the Air Force Police! What the hell is wrong with this! I can just hear these stupid wingers talking it up in the E-club about the collar they made ,and brag about their manhood!
My Son is in the Air Force serving in afganistan if he EVER did this to a old man I’d kick his aZZ myself!!
WakeUp Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Hey USMC! Did you ever mention that the Oathkeepers need to start responding to this stuff?? You mentioned you would, so I was wondering how that went over? Man, I’m hoping you guys start getting really vocal about this kind of thing. I know I’m hard on the group for in my opinion, failing to speak out against specific actions, but in my heart, I really hope the organization becomes an intimidating force against the oath-BREAKERS.
Keep up the fight, brother.
USMC Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Wake up
Yes I have contacted quite a few guys I know in my state..so far the reaction has been good what they need to do is get this on the national level!
I am trying to contact the Officer in Charge to hear what he has to say. this incident is disgraceful! Semper Fi
WakeUp Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Right on! The OathKeepers can be the most effective tool for either turning cops back toward the Constitution, or getting rid of the ones that don’t from the inside.
Keep it up, brother. You guys can make a HUGE difference if the organization would just decide to stop idling and put the damn thing into gear.
Mitchell Umbdenstock Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
a little birdie told me things are being done to bring it out to the open, media wise soon.
November 3rd, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Can you guys use that Taser on me next please?
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Even if these morons were not out of their jurisdiction, They should be more mentally capable of dealing with a 81 year old man. Even if he had driven off they surely had his license number, driver’s license number, and address and could have easily had him served or picked up. I really feel safer knowing that we have gallant young men like these protecting us from the scourge of elderly traffic violators.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:14 am
Time to toss Mendes…??? http://poolhousemedia.com/g/
November 4th, 2009 at 3:58 am
I live in fairbanks and we haven’t had too much trouble with police brutality until this. We also have a nearly 6000 member group who have signed a proclomation (not a petition) stating that we will not comply with further restrictions of our rights. We are also working on starting a common law court system within the group. We also started a system we call the Liberty Bell system. Anyone who is having their rights being violated, like this 81 y/o, can call the system and 5000 to 6000 others can be instantly contacted to show up at the site (with cameras, or whatever) we had a Trooper trainee tell us how terrified he was of it. That’s the whole point. We are even being threatened with wood stove permits and bans. But were not going to comply. As for cops tasering old people, they better be real scared if they do it here. At the very least, his face will get posted all over youtube.
November 4th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Looking at some of the comments on the paper, it appears that road is joint jurisdiction for patrols, but under the UCMJ the APE’s should have only the ability to ticket military personal off base, if they do others, then I assume that when the person shows up in the local court it would be dismissed. What is good is that even though he is 81, at 6′1″, and 250lbs he is still scary enough for kids in uniform, so that bodes well for us. The APE’s have always been on par with the Navy SP’s, which are multi rungs below Marine, and Army MP’s that train together. The Army, and Marine MP’s receive real training, and would have looked for the sticker on the car denoting military personal, and then upon stopping the old guy, would have told him to take it easy, and resumed patrol.
USMC Reply:
November 4th, 2009 at 10:55 am
James
I agree with what you posted it is very correct! I was a Marine MP and this is what should have been done! When I was active duty if any Marine would have done this they would still be in the brig! if it was up to me!
AbuBakerSmiff Reply:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
exceot when I was in the Marines the biggest scumbags and kissasses on the base and the absolute biggest shitbirds were ALWAYS and without exception MP’s. just all around trashy dirtbags, suckups and kiss asses..
November 4th, 2009 at 8:25 am
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November 4th, 2009 at 8:55 am
the ocifer should be charged with a hate crime!
Mitchell Umbdenstock Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
yeah because he hates to leave that trigger unpulled! (joke)
November 4th, 2009 at 9:40 am
If that was my grandfather some fucking pig’s would eating three square a day with a straw, for an extended period of time. Recovery take times, especially when your shitting out your own teeth.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:47 am
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November 4th, 2009 at 9:47 am
you know who u do that to cuz i garantee you u be scare to shit to even get close to my neighborhood shit im scare i don’t even come out unnecessarily if someone sees u and your pig ass doing that around here they will flip on you in a hearthbeat!
November 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Rothschild says when pigs fly…???
November 4th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
German Wermaht did the same just before WWII
November 4th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Here is a prime example of blackwater type thuges hideing in our military. Killers rapist thieves each and everyone of the minions of organized banking.
November 4th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
WHAT A BUNCH OF DUMB COPS. THIS IS THE SAME EXCUSES THAT ALL COPS USE WHEN THEY BREAK THE LAW.
IT’S ALWAYS THE PERSON THEY STOP AND NEVER THEM WHICH IS BS.
I HOPE THIS GUY SUES IN FEDERAL COURT EVEN THOUGH IT WILL BE DISMISSED, IT THE PRINCIPLE THAT MATTERS.
IF YOUR SOME STUPID KNOW NOTHING 20 Y.O. AND SOME 81 Y.O. MAN SCARES YOU, YOUR A TOTAL WUSSE.
IT SHOWS THEY HAD NO INTELLECTUAL SKILLS BUT THIS JUST MAKES THE OTHERS LOOK REALLY BAD.
DO YOU COPS OUT THEIR UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE SO MAD WHEN YOU TREAT THE INFRACTION LIKE A TRIPLE MURDER.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:22 am
87th!!!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:31 am
He commited a crime agianst an ederly person in violation of Federal law HR2974
November 5th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
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November 5th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
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November 5th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
If they hadn’t of tasered him he would have been flying down the road crashing through the window at Dunkin Donuts or something. All 81 years need to be tasered, that’s just a part of life.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Matial law, border closure! ALERT! ALERT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4eRltGEyqo
November 6th, 2009 at 10:40 am
I hope an Oath Keeper jerks a knot in those badged bully’s asses. Regardless, they will answer to a much greater Authority one day.
Mitchell Umbdenstock Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
yes, us. If in fact they don’t by God then we’re the fools and dead, going “hey, what the heck, there’s no hell, wtf Dammit! look at them down there.. They’re living forever.. And What the fck they are having so much fun with their mansions and space travel, dammit what happened to god’s punishment??? dammit! we were fooled by the peoplewho wrote that!!! fck!’”
November 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
law enforcement?’i am the law.’[snicker]way to handle a situation guys.i’d like to see it when they come across a real threat.he’d probably get them to shoot themselves.’grande theft auto’ aint gone a thing on these guys.guys in my caliber would eliminate them with out touching them,because of their own stupidity.
joel Reply:
November 6th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
this is the stuff that should be on the network morning @ evening shows.not the stupid, dumbed down, mediocre,nobody gives a crap about stuff.but all those adjetives are who they have running the shows.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
ithought that was part of the reason we had congress was to smack them in the ‘dick’ when they got out of line.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
but then we havnt had a functioning government for awhile.bin laden loves it.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
they’ve been to busy caught up in their extra carricular activities,their sociol agendas,or expanding their power.they cant even handle the power they already have.like the one round war,i can settle a conflict with one move.the rest is wasteful banter.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:41 am
First of all, it’s good to see that we are not being led off topic by the disinfo trolls. Most of their comments are just ignored. We’re learning.
The airmen, the cops, the district attorney (Grey) will need to be brought to justice after the revolution.
Anyone who would do this to a senior citizen deserves the most severe retribution.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Delaware beats Switzerland as most secretive financial center
http://joshfulton.blogspot.com.....-most.html
November 8th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Police will be on trial one day. If it was my family I would bat the police one at a time in the dark at the door after they answered. F&*K the police and the cowards at the base.
The Way Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 8:09 am
So you would bat all police everywhere? Or just the police involved in this incident? Or all law enforcement in general?
November 8th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Ok…. if your 81 year-old and insist on driving, then you deserve to be tasered….. ha!
November 13th, 2009 at 8:36 am
you all forget dod land or not military cant police the ppl this is a good example of slow terranny
i dont care to spell it coorrctly THEY ARE STILL NOT TO POLICE THE PUBLIC
The Way Reply:
November 16th, 2009 at 4:24 am
“you all forget dod land or not military cant police the ppl”
Yes, they can, per United States Code, and the code of the state or states surrounding the military installation or reservation.