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9/11 Mind Swell
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As we approach the eighth anniversary of 9/11 consider this paradox. In the post 9-11 years the scientific evidence for disbelieving the official government story has mounted incredibly. And the number of highly respected and credentialed professionals challenging the official story has similarly expanded. Yet, to the considerable disappointment of the international 9/11 truth movement, the objective fact is that there are no widespread, loud demands for a new government-backed 9/11 investigation. The 9/11 truth movement is the epitome of a marginalized movement, one that never goes away despite not achieving truly meaningful results, which in this case means replacing official lies with official truth. What has gone wrong?
Akin to the definition of insanity, the hallmark of entrenched but marginalized movements is that they continue to pursue exactly the same strategy and tactics that have failed to produce solid results. They indulge themselves with self-delusion, defensive thinking and acting as if the world at large must surely and finally wake up, see the light and embrace the Truth. Years and, potentially, decades go by, but this quixotic status quo remains embedded, as if set in intellectual concrete. There is no brain tumor to blame. Nor any mass hypnosis of true believers to prove. There is just monumental disinterest among the dominant culture, political establishment and the broad public that is far more engaged with other issues, problems and movements.
The 9/11 truth movement, at best, gets meager public attention when it is derided and insulted, used as an example of persistent conspiratorial insanity.
Make no mistake; I concluded a few years back, after using my professional engineering and materials science background to study the evidence, that the official government story is a lie. As a former full professor of engineering, I firmly believe that elements of the US government were involved with contributing to (not just allowing) the 9/11 tragedy, but that does not necessarily eliminate the role of those terrorists publicly blamed for the events. Science, logic, evidence and critical thinking told me this.
Who should we blame for the failure of the 9/11 truth movement to fix the historical record and, better yet, identify those in the government who turned 9/11 into an excuse for going to war, getting them indicted, prosecuted, and punished for their murderous acts?
It is too easy to blame the mainstream media and political establishment for refusing to demand and pursue a truly comprehensive and credible independent scientific and engineering investigation. President Obama with his tenacious belief in looking forward, not backward, exemplifies a national mindset to avoid the painful search for truth and justice that could produce still more public disillusionment with government and feed the belief that American democracy is weak at best, and delusional at worst.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
This can be explained in several ways. The 9/11 movement has not been able to articulate enough benefits to the public from disbelieving the official government story and pursuing a new investigation. What might ordinary Americans gain? Would proof-positive of government involvement make them feel better, more secure, and more patriotic? Apparently not. In fact, just the opposite. By its very nature, the 9/11 issue threatens many things by discovering the truth: still less confidence in the US political system, government and public officials. Still more reason to ponder the incredible loss of life and national wealth in pursuing the Iraq war. In other words, revealing 9/11 truth offers the specter of a huge national bummer. Conversely, it would show the world that American democracy has integrity.
The second explanation for failure is that the truth movement itself is greatly to blame. It has been filled with nerdish, ego-centric and self-serving activists (often most interested in pushing their pet theory) unable to pursue strategies designed to face and overcome ugly, challenging realities. The truth movement became a cottage industry providing income and meaning for many individuals and groups feeding the committed with endless websites, public talks, videos, books and paraphernalia. They habitually preach to the choir. Applause substitutes for solid results. In particular, it embraces the simplistic (and obviously ineffective) belief that by revealing technical, scientific and engineering facts and evidence the public and political establishment would be compelled to see the light. Darkness has prevailed.
Proof of this are the views expressed days ago on the truth movement by Ben Cohen on the Huffington Post: “I have done some research on the topic, but stopped fairly quickly into when it dawned on me that: 1. Any alternative to the official account of what happened is so absurd it simply cannot be true. 2. No reputable scientific journal has ever taken any of the ’science’ of the conspiracy seriously. 3. The evidence supporting the official story is overwhelming, whereas the 9/11 Truthers have yet to produce a shred of concrete evidence that members of the U.S. government planned the attacks in New York and Washington .” Similarly, in the London Times James Bone recently said a “gruesome assortment of conspiracy theorists insists that the attacks on the US of September 11, 2001 were an inside job. It is easy to mock this deluded gang of ageing hippies, anarchists and anti-Semites.” Truthers continue to face a very steep uphill battle.
A common lie about the truth movement is that there have been no credible scientific articles in peer reviewed journals supporting it. But those opposing the truth movement will and do find ways to attack whatever scientific evidence is produced and published. It takes more than good science and facts for the movement to succeed.
Besides the movement having too many genuine crackpots (possibly trying to subvert it), a larger problem is what has been missing from it: effective political strategies. Besides pushing scientific results and more credible supporters, it did nothing successful to make a new 9/11 investigation a visible issue in the last presidential campaign. It did nothing effective to put pressure on a new, Democrat controlled congress to consider legislation providing the authorization and funding for a new, credible investigation. It seems that people who want to blame the government are often unable to also see the political path forward that requires the government to fund a new investigation.
To its credit, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth does have a petition aimed at Congress, demanding a new investigation, but has fewer than 5,000 signers. The petition effort in New York City to get a new investigation is commendable, with just under 75,000 signers, but national action is needed. Pragmatically, both efforts are unimpressive compared to other campaigns seeking political action. To get both media attention and political support the movement needs a hundred times more documented supporters, willing to do a lot more than sign a petition.
The tenth anniversary of 9/11 will come fast. The opportunity is making 9/11 an issue in the 2012 presidential campaign. The least delusional and defensive in the truth movement should think deeply and seriously on what needs to change to accomplish the prime goal: having an official investigation that compels most people and history to accept the truth, no matter how painful it is, including the possibility that it finds no compelling evidence for government involvement.
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August 11th, 2009 at 11:23 am
and Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Just because we know the truth doesn’t mean anything will ever be done. The world knows the truth that there were no WMD’s in Iraq. Though the US is never leaving that country. Truth has become irrelevant.
Joel…..I have an experiment for you. Go to all your colleagues and tell them there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Even at the open-minded Global Research it is FORBIDDEN to even discuss or mention the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The “truth-groups” were established for the sole purpose of controlling discourse and discussion about ONE topic! That topic was the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The reason MSM will never discuss this topic is because the US MSM is owned by the top US military corporations. There is a complete and total media blackout with regards to the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
In terms of being a bummer….I disagree. Once the world comes to the understanding that there were no commercial planes on 9-11 we can end a trillion dollar war, stop killing one million people a year, stop torturing hundreds of thousands without charges every year, and focus our energies and kindness on ourselves and never letting the murderous lies happen again without verification. Your article mentions overwhelming evidence of 9-11 except the ONLY evidence that counts. In aviation crash investigations, only wreckage and debris can verify a plane crash. Not witnesses or video….ONLY wreckage. After 8 years….NOT ONE SINGLE PIECE OF DEBRIS FROM ANY OF THE 4 PLANES FROM ANY OF THE 4 LOCATIONS ON 9-11 HAS EVER BEEN VERIFIED IN ANY WAY. Not one single piece.
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. Go around to your peers Joel and see how quickly you will be shut down or fired?!!!
jim from FL Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
unleash a HURRICANE of fliers under windshield wipers world-wide.
youradisinfoagent Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Hey “and” I think you forgot to take your medication today.
He's certified COINTELPRO Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Hey, ‘Mr. Alex is a liar because there were No Commercial Planes’,
Strawman: Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent’s position and then refuting it, thus giving the appearance that the opponent’s actual position has been refuted.
-Source Wikipedia
Infowarriors know that there are numerous groups out trying to discredit it by any means necessary. Alex and Jason have interviewed and referenced Wayne Madison who was interviewed by Russia Today and disclosed just such a group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFWvZr-QLo
Your disinfo campaign parroting “Alex is a ‘liar’ because there were no “commercial planes” on 9/11″ is obvious disinfo. Alex and Crew have done more to bring you the truth regarding that very subject than any other entity. Here are 9 reasons your strawman is blown.
1. “The United States government alleges that 4 registered Boeing commercial passenger aircraft were used in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, yet has failed to produce any physical evidence collected from the 3 9/11 crash scenes positively tied to these federally registered United and American airlines aircraft.”
-Infowars article February 26, 2008: 9/11 Aircraft ‘Black Box’ Serial Numbers Mysteriously Absent
2. Infowars reported that the government officially could not account for any wreckage that conclusively belonged to any of the purported flights.
-Infowars article March 18, 2008: F.B.I. Elaborates On Reportedly Absent 9/11 Aircraft Wreckage Recovery & Identification Records
Not enough? Let’s look INDIVIDUALLY at what Infowars has reported about ‘commercial planes’ and the “official story” of 9/11.
——-WTC 1 / American Airlines Flight 11——-
3. Infowars let you know that according to American Airlines flight 11 was not possible.
-Infowars article: “American Airlines – 9/11 Never Happened”
——–WTC 2 / United Airlines Flight 175——-
4. Registration was reported valid by Boeing until 09/28/2005 when according to them it was “Canceled” and “Exported”.
-Infowars article July 6, 2006: Very Strange 9/11 Aircraft Registrations
5. Tail number N612UA and FAA-registered as still valid.
-Infowars article June 14, 2005: Former Bush Admin Economist Says Official Story of WTC Collapse ‘Bogus’
6. Alleged 9/11 hijacker Hamza Al-Ghamdi had booked future flights which brings into question if he was on the flight at all.
-Infowars article Feb 28, 2008: Alleged Hijacker Booked On Post-9/11 Flights
————Shanksville / United 93————-
7. Infowars let you know that the Mayor of Shanksville refutes there even was a plane.
-Infowars article Sept 19, 2004: Mayor of Shanksville says “There was no plane”
8. Flight 93’s registration was also reported valid by Boeing until 09/28/2005 when according to them it was “Canceled” and “Exported”.
-Infowars article July 6, 2006: Very Strange 9/11 Aircraft Registrations
————-Pentagon / Flight 77————–
9. Alex has never maintained that a commercial plane hit the Pentagon. Alex holds that debating if it was a missile or a predator or anything else is an endless pursuit. That said, he and everyone else have gone to great lengths to discredit the story of Hani Hanjour out manning and out piloting Charles Burlingame. An example of this position is this article:
-Infowars article July 7, 2009: How the FBI and 9/11 Commission Suppressed Key Evidence about Hani Hanjour
what Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Youre not making any sense. Alex is a liar because there were no commercial planes on 9-11???!!! What does that mean? Thats like saying he’s a liar because the sky is blue? Well….it depends if he said the sky WASN’T blue??! Youre not making any sense. IF……..IF Alex says that there WERE commercial planes on 9-11…..THEN YES…..he is a liar because there were NO commercial planes on 9-11.
What are you trying to say for Alex anyhow again?! What has alex said about no commercial planes on 9-11. Not even the articles say?
MadMax Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Truth is treason in the empire of lies!
nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 9:46 am
The 9/11 Snow Job Cover Up.
Future of a Nation that can not trust the Government & Propaganda Media?
DNC & RNC have sold out the country in order to enrich themselves
Chronic lying as career path, intellectual prostitution for paycheck
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
Does the Government & Propaganda Media lie to you?
Mussolini Corporate State, Subversion of Democracy
Poodles, Puppets, Sham debates, & Scam elections
Wall Street Bailout Bill: Bush McCain Obama et al.
AIPAC 9/11 Bankers Extortion Blackmail Bribery
Independents agree on more than we disagree
Elite Ruling Class Greed or public servants?
Speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil?
Honesty compassion conscience guts?
Both parties are corrupt to the core
Beware the divide and conquer
Whistle-Blower leaks multiply
A very RawStory on PressTV
InfoWars on a PrisonPlanet
Israel-first dual-nationals
Gung-Ho Chickenhawks
Homeland Police State
JFK RFK MLK Malcolm
Anthrax Intimidation
“Federal” Reserve
NAFTA Nation?
GGreenwald
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
And now more Lockerbie which never generated any responce at all.
paul Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
very well put….
FreedomOfSpeech Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
New JOKER picture
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4.....836395100/
GLV Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Are you suggesting that hundreds and hundreds of both mainstream and privately shot videos have ALL been doctored to make it appear as though planes were crashing into the buildings, or merely that the planes in question were not commercial airliners?
Because the first suggestion is absolutely ridiculous and makes us all seem nuts.
The second is less outrageous, but is nevertheless one of the least important aspects of the entire scenario in terms of providing evidence contrary to the official story, as there is really no way of proving it.
So either way, what’s you people’s point, running around here all the time these days, chanting that weird little mantra? I’m getting pretty sick of hearing it. It’s just stupid.
keep going Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
GLV watch “September Clues” online by simon shack. Watch all the episodes. On 9-11 there were only 36 “videos”. Not hundreds. Surprising when you learn that dozens of helicopters were recording the 2nd “strike” and only 7 seconds of combined video was shown on 9-11. SEVEN SECONDS…..and that was from 5 camera angles. Would it be too tough to fake that? Learn who these video people were. You are not allowed to talk to them and they refuse to explain how the got their “shots”.
Solutions Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Here’s the 2nd site to get the full document.
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
Go to the bottom of the page and click onto the link: Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Justification for US Military Intervention – - -
Go to paragraph 8.a., page 10 of the original document.
What were they going to do to the aircraft at Elgin AFB???
Answer that ONE QUESTION.
Jim Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:24 am
September Clues http://www.youtube.com/view_pl.....84E26F7CFB
ScrewyL Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 7:41 am
My favorite part of September Clues is watching the bridge crawl away
Powerbar 2009 Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
GLV
You haven’t read properly what was proposed.
no COMMERCIAL aircraft….
There has long been proponents of the theory that drones were used.
My theory is that the towers wee hit by drones, designed and build to disintegrate at impact. The pentagon was obviously not an airplane, and the alleged machine on it’s way to the white house (sorry, no caps for that place) which allegedly crashed in a field, that hole would not have been made by an airplane. More likely a dozer or excavator. I too believe that this plane never existed.
Regardless of the plane issue, one only has to look at the various videos, (including the “official” ones from the corporate media), to see what actually happened.
Scientific data have provided us with air and dust samples which irrevocably show that the tower collapses were controlled demolitions.
It may be good to inform yourself more. I don”t mean this in a derogatory manner, the truth is, that you, as millions of other Americans and people worldwide buy the version of the government because the truth seems to hard to accept.
We have only in the last 8 months seen what these people actually control, and how far their conspiracy goes. Please wake up to the truth, or at least study the evidence and refute it with actual facts.
Solutions Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Hey everyone, I am going to prove to all of you that GLV is a lousey US citizen and does not know what he’s talking about.
It’s very simple, we get declassified documents through the Freedom of Information Act and these are like bank statements from our government, that reveal what they have been up to over the years. Declassified documents are like cancelled checks and credit card statements, because it’s an accounting of how we spent our money and what We The People got from the establishment. Now IMO, anyone that doesn’t bother to review their bank statements and cancelled checks, I would have to consider them as a real meat head, which GLV has demonstrated with his comments.
Here is one website that refers to a document that took 40 years to be declassified, so that We The People could get a look inside how our government does business behind closed doors. A short read, but well worth the time, if you want to understand what GLV obviously knows nothing about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Now here is a website where you can read the full document which has a few preface pages and the full 12 pages of the original declassified document, referred to as Operation Northwoods. When you get to the website page, go to the bottom and click on the link: Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Justification for US Military Intervention – - -
To get to the heart of the matter about “no comercial airlines” as a very real possiblity with the events of 9/11, begin reading the declassified document starting at about page 8 of the original document, which has been verified as a National Security Archive. numerous times.
Now here is the challenge for numbnuts, if he/she even bothers to read bank statements, cancelled checks and credit card statements. Here is the question numbnuts, what does paragraph 8. a. on page 10 of the original document say about, “doing something to an aircraft at Elgin AFB” ???
If you can answer that ONE QUESTION, then please continue to inform us all why commercial planes must have, positively crashed into the WTC. I would really like to hear from you with an intelligent answer, but I doubt you will even bother to read what I have suggested and made easy enough for an 8th grader to find and understand. I am asking you to read one(1) paragraph of a delassified document from the website I have posted for you, page 8.a. of page 10 from the original document for our National Security Archive.
Granted, Operation Northwoods was never executed and the history of the document strongly suggests that JFK rejected the plan when the Secretary Of Defense presented it to him. We do know that JFK reduced Joint Chief of Staff, L.L. Lemnitzer to a desk clerk after reading the document. If such a plan got that far back in 1962 when JFK stopped it, how far do you think they got on 9/11 when Bush most likely embraced a similar plan to get into Iraq and the middle east?
Just the fact that such/similar classified documents exist in our National Security Archive DEMANDS a full investigation of 9/11. If they planned stuff like that back in 62, what do you think they are capable of today???
Q33NY Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Remember that weird chain letter about the wingdings font?
It starts out oddly “Did you know that a flight number from one of the planes that hit one of the two towers was Q33NY.”
This is a point which has been summarily dismissed by all debunking sites on the grounds that this isn’t the registration or “tail number” for ANY of the flights.
However…
Interestingly, a quick research on military plane numbering reveals that ‘Q’ just happens to be used instead of ‘N’ on, guess what…
…MILITARY DRONES!
Furthermore, the suffix “NY” would indicate ANG Airforce Base as the origin, and ‘33′ being the number of that plane in it’s inventory–not to mention the magic masonic degree.
It struck me as odd, the specific wording of the setup: “Did you know that…”, as if the author knows something that the reader probably does not.
Weird.
SHillzRUs Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Was going to call “and” out as a cointel but someone beat me to it.
ScrewyL Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:07 am
Joel, you have missed the mark altogether. Shame on you for quoting Cohen, as if he is either authoritative, OR correct.
The “Truth Movement” is definitely NOT to blame. The power structure of this country and the world are absolutely immune to political attack, and have literally laughed in the face of mountains of evidence.
Cohen’s statement that “there is no evidence” or that “alternate theories are absurd” are a reflection of his agenda and cynicism.
There is no evidence FOR the official story. Not one element of their argument has withstood even teh scantest vetting, yet they purvey it as a “question already answered”.
Here’s the real problem: The political solution will never work. Let me say it again: The political solution will never work.
We are out of political options. Congress mocked us on petitions for redress of greivances. The Parties pass the potato and the public allows them–even reelects them. The selfishness of a people raised in fear generates an impenetrable apathy, and the soulless presenters of Talking Heads, Inc. are all too effective in turning that fact into ratings.
The Truth Movement’s mistake is in remaining peaceful in the face of purely premeditated murder and conspiracy on the grandest of all scales.
Anybody paying attention throughout the last 50 years is unable to refute the simple truth that this ‘movement’ is going to have to turn into a war–or fail.
Enrique Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
There is no doubt in my mind that 9/11 was some sort of false flag, inside job by criminal elements linked to the Bush administration. There is overwhelming evidence that Bushco at the very least knew of an impending attack and allowed it to occur in order to achieve the neocon agenda of a massive military build up and invasion of oil countries. There is no physical way that WTC 7 fell because of fires. NO WAY AT ALL. The collapse of WTC 1 and 2 is equally suspect. HOWEVER, I find it extremely disconcerting that so many people are stuck on the theory of military jets being used to attack the WTC because it detracts greatly from the real possibilities. While I cannot rule out the option, using military aircraft seems unnecessarily complicated involving numerous conspirators in an operation that requires secrecy, not to mention the potential 14,000,000 eyewitnesses in NYC. I am aware of Operation Northwoods but that shoot down of a military jet would have occurred over the Gulf of Mexico with little to no witnesses. I also find the missile theories, pod theories and “special effects” theories to be equally detracting. As far as I have been able to determine, after reviewing lots of evidence and talking to eyewitnesses, the most likely scenario is that several extremists did actually fly the planes into the buildings but from there the collapses were due to demolition. As for the Pentagon, I am totally befuddled by what happened there. The stunning lack of evidence, despite over 25 cameras trained on the very impact wall, no less than 5 on the exact wall, leaves me lost as to why the only evidence of a crash comes from 5 frames of a security camera that didn’t even have the right timestamp.
I truly hope that the truth comes out in my lifetime. I lost a good friend who worked at Cantor in the WTC. I also lost a good friend in the USS Cole attack. I think the USA has been hijacked starting in 1913 when Congress “passed” the Federal Reserve Act. After a century of corruption it is time to take our republic back for the people.
Scoops Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 3:21 am
How dare you guys say that 9-11 was an inside job. The evidence is clear that the planes were hijacked and crashed into the the WTC and the Pentagon. Where is your evidence? You have none. Operation Northwoods, was never implemented. The truth is already out there, just look at it. I am willing to have an open and pubic discussion with anyone regarding this issue.
FreedomOfSpeech Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
there’s something ELSE we should audit, and NO ONE is talking about it!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4…..3840664503
Check it out!
reconmarine Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Why don’t you guys just forget about 911. I installed the Thermate in the WTC in order to create value for my boss, MOSSAD and the NWO. Now my job is to cover up 911. They call it here at NSA “CoIntelPro”. Basically I sit in front of the computer all day spreading disinformation and engaging in ad hominem attacks on Patriots(who are the enemies of the NWO). I am supposed to employ “divide and conquer”. If anyone has any ideas, I would be most appreciative and could get you paid by MOSSAD, like I am.
Axiom Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:54 am
Fuck off idiot
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Very naughty but I don`t think a weakness in critical thinking means an idiot more likely
just suseptable to hypnosis.
Kevin Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 8:34 am
If one “Truther” became the District Attorney responsible for lower Manhattan, there could be a very unglamourous murder investigation.
joshbot Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 2:12 am
I love this idea!!
Will See Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO! Mr. Joel S. Hirschhorn. This is EXACTLY what is wrong.
The 911 Truth movement is not EFFECTIVE. Even though the Scripps Howard poll in 2006 noted that as many as 50 million US citizens not only doubt the “official story” but believe 911 was an INSIDE JOB, there is no MASS and collective movement DEMANDING a new and verifiable investigation empowered with subpoena and retributive power. WE ARE TO BLAME.
If one percent (500,000) of these people would join in a collective pressure group and DEMAND a new investigation from Congress each week, we would burn out the Capitol Hill switchboard and chase out every scum-sucking traitor in Washington. We are being subverted and distracted. Information alone will not solve the problem. Effective ACTION will.
Now the REAL CHALLENGE is to get people off their flag-waving patriotic asses, and do what they have neglected for years, and that is FORCE the government to be accountable to the law, Constitution and us as citizens. We need battering ram force to make Congress do the job they were employed by us to do. If not, 911 will go the way of the JFK, MLK, RFK murders along with things like Waco, OKC, the Fed Rip off and every other ungodly work of damnable elitists form the CFR agenda.
Will it happen? As it looks right now, all we have is a high-school pep rally of macho hubris “patriots” that have no ides of how to USE THE TOOLS that God gave them as Constitutional Citizens. Citizens can get back control of the government anytime they like—If they use the tools and move with collective force to TAKE IT BACK.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Obama Is A “Two Faced Liar” Campaign – See more below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_LJjFwQBG4
Corporate Death Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Let’s keep it simple here, buddy boy!
9-11 gets no traction because the television has never objectively debated the issue. The country is devoid of debate on things that matter.
For too long we have trusted and relied and held our noses while letting our representative government do what they wilt. The fact is, we have the internet and speedy communication. Representative government is outmoded/corrupted. We no longer need career politicians to go the distant place called D.C. The pony express is gone. So shall this b.s. we call democracy but is in effect an oligarchy.
The constitutional republic can survive through an effective referendum model facilitated by the instant communication of the internet. True democracy will prevail.
What do you say we give it a go?
juror13 Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
” Mommy, I’m scared of the government.”
JJ Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Mommy I love the government it’s my daddy!! Juror 13 go worship the government in your mommies basement and leave the forum to grown ups.
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Fear of the “what ever” is the begining of wisdom.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:29 am
World war 1-2-3- and so on
Billy Ruben Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:44 am
I’m afraid WWIII will be the last.
ac Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Afraid? Why not thankful?
danbug Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Woe unto you that desire the day of Jehovah! Wherefore would you have the day of Jehovah? It is darkness, and not light. Amos 5:18.
ac Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
That prophecy was fulfilled, wasn’t it? BTW, WWIII may not be the Day of Jehovah. If you know Jesus you have nothing to fear.
“For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.”
2 Timothy 1:7
Billy Ruben Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Excellent concept
I am thankful
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Is it because we will have to work harder to come up with new computer games?.
Chris Whittaker Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:53 am
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.
Some people (Bilderbergers) think that we already fought WW3, and that they (the elites) won, through social engineering and other things.
Can’t say whether it’s 100% true (I know about social engineering, but SWQW?) Would explain a LOT though.
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
They can`t be doing badly though because this site is still here.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Hahaha it’s so funny she doesn’t know when was 9/11. She’s gonna be my slave wahaha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
bob Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:45 am
I don’t know the public is ready for it???
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Now…that’s REALLY creepy !!!
P.S. Never mind the NWO vampires !!!
Billy Ruben Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I AM BILLY RUBEN.
a declaration of the fact.
No; I am not as think as you drunk I am
August 11th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Pfhhhht-
i still can’t get my extended-family to even L O O K at the evidence…
roaddog6 Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:46 am
spirit—yep. It’s crazy with the attitudes.
David PK Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Spiritblade , the answer is not starting with 9/11 . First , if you are like me you have been trying to warn your family about the NWO for some time . This is a disadvantage . Alex was talking about this the
other day . We are sometimes guilty of trying to warn about events past , present , or future . Some of these have happened and some not . And , as Alex said, this is used to confirm in their minds that this
awful uncomfortable truth is crazy . We need to slowly and calmly speak to them about method and desired outcome . Those of us who have Christian families can take them to the prophecies that of God that said there would be an evil , suppressive system that desires to enslave and kill many. Those who don’t can use history and men who warned of tyranny . We have to become thought provokers , not debaters.
Remember we are dealing with people who have been traumatized (9/11 ) and very deeply manipulated
by propaganda and psychological warfare .
AntiPoliceBrutality Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
right David plant that seed!!!
Ivan Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I can’t even get my immediate family to believe this stuff.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
I can’t even get people to learn to wash their asses !!!
creeping crud Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
There are places I cannot reach with a wash cloth!
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:31 am
That’s one of the points about ass washing , you don’t need or want to use a wash
cloth , that’s unpractical and superfluous !!!
The left index finger is the asshole wiping finger !!!
stop trying Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
When you try and make someone “believe” the events of 9-11, you have lost. This is not church or a ghost sighting, it is about 4 planes crashing which started the war on terror. All you need to do is verify the commercial planes. After 8 years, not one single piece from any of the planes has ever been verified in any way. If your own family refused to understand….then stop trying with your family. There are billions of people who will never want to know anything about 9-11. Your family might be one of them. Never hold that against them. Just provide the verifiable evidence and move on.
How did your family take it once they understood that they had been lied to about the WMD’s in Iraq? Were they horrifically upset about being mislead and having millions of people killed based on their behalf and the lies of their government? I doubt it. I bet they quickly accepted it as common knowledge? For some reason the lies of 911 are ingrained very deep. Every day is another story about terrorists, terrorism, fighting the wars, gitmo, homegrown terrorists, what it would mean is that so many have lied to them for so long. That’s very difficult to handle. It’s kind of like finding out your Priest has molested all the children in your church. Some will never “believe” it. Stay away from “beliefs or belief systems” with regards to 9-11. It’s a plane crash not a UFO sighting. Simply verify the debris from the planes. After 8 years not one piece has ever been verified from any of the 4 planes from 9-11!
youradisinfoagent Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Don’t you ever shut the f*ck up about your “no commercial planes theory” Nobody wants to hear it. You have no proof and you post that stupid shit everyday on every article. Go take your meds.
danbug Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Planes are irrelivant. They were just a decoy to blow up the buildings anyway.
Chris Whittaker Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:58 am
*laughs* sorry, gotta love the irony in “you have no proof”. You want PROOF now!? This is about BELIEVING.
No really. Mud slinging who has proof and who doesn’t – when the former has the abscene and the latter doesn’t even have that… Someone play the Hitler card!
Chris Whittaker Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:00 am
*Absence, and No commercial planes is a definate, unproven plausible theory. I guess the other is two, if you find a (provable) explaination for the other two planes nobody saw.
Steve Williams Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Well, actually, there is a reasonable question as to whether or not they were commercial passenger jets or military planes masquerading. As reported by a Fox news reporter by a weird happenstance. The reporter states that the plane went right by him and he didn’t see any windows on the side. Now, what commercial passenger jet in the USA doesn’t have windows on each side of the body? You know what? I can’t think of any either. The only US planes that don’t have windows on the sides are commercial freight carriers and military aircraft. And maybe some privately owned aircraft, but that situation doesn’t apply here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq7ZYeKuQcE
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Well I think if you stop cuting bits off people or killing them or what ever you non-Europeans do you might find they are more receptive to information but it won`t help.
They just jump right back on the tread mill and honk their way back to the trough.
Chips Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Yeppers, I haven’t been able to get one particular member of my extended family to acknowledge any of the myriad pieces of evidence that expose 9/11 as an inside job, and I’ve been trying for three years! When I ask a question that requires him to admit there is any possibility whatsoever that it didn’t happen the way the government said, he simply ignores it, or answers a question he just kinda makes up outa thin air. Denial ain’t just a river in Africa.
It’s sad, but it doesn’t change the fact that it was an inside job.
good point but Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Lets say I walk into a large Catholic church and say God is dead and Jesus was a bogus lie to simply take your money, control what you do and say, and give me a reason to dictate everything you do for your entire life. What do you think the reaction will be? Will they open their minds to the possibility or will they recoil violently and never care about anything you ever say or do? I bet the second one. There will be many people who will never accept that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Now turn around and leave the church……..
Chris Whittaker Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:02 am
I agree, but I am determined to keep finding ways to snap people out of things. I’ve found that it uses simple principles executed according to intuition (wait for the right time and place).
So… Maybe wait till the middle of the week when the “instant salvation” has worn off?
Mick Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
that’s because idiot US Americans and their whole existence was founded on a lie (the lie that the Americas were a new and empty land)
A total a-historicalness exists in the US (mostly white) American mind because your country was founded on genocide, corruption, and theft. If you don’t believe me check out a high school History book. Nothing but jingoism and bullshit.
AntiPoliceBrutality Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
It’s true, the more I learn about Palestine and their struggle the more it makes me think of the history of this country….
August 11th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Sad day for America… ;(
On the other hand- it’s a big sign of human disharmony, therefore it’s positive- forces people to change.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:33 am
They got us by the pubes on this one.
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Thats why the price of shaveing equipment is always going up.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:38 am
The US is in Iraq without legal authority. The SOFA ratification expired when the referendum wasn’t held by the deadline, it’s unratified, null and void. The illegal US force should be confined to base and withdrawn from Iraq as soon as possible.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:38 am
I remember:
People jumping,……some prengnant.
Psyops on the streets.
crumbling bildings.
dying first responders.
tv stations, scripts and layering.
molten metal.
Anthraxletters.
put options.
pentagontapes??
suicides
lying statesmen.
wmd’s.
nose in – nose out
7 billion insurance money.
A black man, who knew to much.
Thermite.
pensylvania…?????
wtc7.
Taxidriver, scared?
Recovered harddisks an a german website.
Shipped metal.
A world in silence
It’s unbelievable
liars,liars….Fucking lying bastards.
Stay focused people!!!!
“wir habben es nicht gewust” (germany 1945)
August 11th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Progress is the promise of annihilation. As the world spins faster and faster the end defines itself over yonder.
You big negative nancy, its about this generation and the generations to come. Feed the youth truth and enlighten them to what life is: Right verses Wrong, Good verses Evil, God verses the Devil.
Corporate Death Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Actually, all these government people talk about is “reform”. In many cases, “reform” is code for a no debate reduction in rights and increase in taxes.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Don’t we get to see the classified JFK assassination documents soon?
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
You mean what’s left of it !?!
AntiPoliceBrutality Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Only Nick Cage has seen them in National Treasure 2
August 11th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Expecting this government to investigate the tragedy of 9/11 is like asking the fox to investigate the disappearance of several chickens from the hen house.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:49 am
While the government keeps the Public’s eyes focused on the ‘Swine flu’ pandemic scare, another more deadly and sinister disease has already spread across the nation and that is the ‘corruption and greed pandemic’ that has found it’s way into every aspect of our government. I think it is funny that the CDC has never mentioned that excessive greed and power mongering are both mental diseases that are the biggest threat to mankind and have killed more people than all of the other forms of malaise put together.
Fred931 Reply:
August 15th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Exactly, move from one scare to another, keep them confused and off guard, their memories are short, keep blasting them with mindless TV programs and controlled mass media. This is what they do ! and it works well !!
August 11th, 2009 at 11:57 am
“The opportunity is making 9/11 an issue in the 2012 presidential campaign.” This is a great point, but what part of playing by their rules has worked? If the 80,000+ signers all joined on the streets of New York with constructive messages on placards, Building Collapse Only Consistent With Demolition and Newton’s 2nd Law Of Physics, Terrorists Have Indestructable Passports??, No Insurance Claim = No Wreckages, Bush Lied on Seeing 2nd Plane Hit, Local Structural Damage Does Not Cause Uniformed Symetrical Freefall Collapse (i.e. the points that need following up)
john Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
More placards: “Silverstein said PULL IT” “Older buildings have burnt for longer PEOPLE!!” “Drills the same day??”
hey Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
John…..there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The reason they ran the drills that day was for plausible deniability. You see that everywhere on 9-11. That’s why Bush is reading about a goat and doesnt move. Thats why Rumsfeld is FIRST on the scene at the Pentagon crash acting like a 2-bit EMT helping to carry people around which of course prevents hime from ordering any “planes” from being shot down. Dozens of military commanders for some unexplained reason gave up their posts for the first few hours of 9-11 and resumed them later in the day. Many people put into “command” because of that had never been in command before that day. Plausible deniability is a common tactic of the Deception Execution Cycle used by the military and government. PD was everywhere on the day of 9-11.
AntiPoliceBrutality Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I agree!
matt Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:08 am
amen.
August 11th, 2009 at 11:57 am
White people did 911!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 11:58 am
White jews, christians, pagans – SATANISTS!!
August 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
People want to remain ignorant and gulible because it is much less complicated to be stupid especially when you really are stupid. It is the right thing to do, in a stupid person’s mind, to pretend to be Patriotic, not to have a clue to what’s going on, to think about your needs only and to have little or no courage at all except to talk shit on subjects you have no clue about . What it really implies to be Patriotic ? Few people know the true meaning. To help support those criminals which you are brain washed to worship, those idols that will ultimately kill you when the time comes, is a standard way of thinking. Afterall, everybody is doing it so it must be right and I don’t wish to be ridiculed. Right ? The simple truth is, people are just too dumb, too lazy and too weak to do what’s right. Being good at what you do, even having education more then others, does not make you all around smarter. You can still be stupid and the proof is everywhere.
GONZOLONG Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Yeah, check out the movie “Idiocracy”…
August 11th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
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reconmarine Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
You are not helping me cover up 9/11, please stop. Anyway, it was my Thermate that brought the buildings down. The planes were just for show/sleight of hand.
Axiom Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 2:56 am
i’ll help cover you up 6 feet under
you goddam brainwashed bootlicker
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
So let me see, you are saying that there were no commercial planes on 9/11?
Steve Williams Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Maybe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq7ZYeKuQcE
August 11th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I disagree with the sentiment of this article. From the beginning, it was obvious to me that the government, and all they control, already know the truth of 9/11. We have woken up countless ordinary people to the corruption, and that is all that can be done.
The anger displayed at current town hall meetings is a reflection of this disenchantment, and it is about far more than just the evil “health care reform” our corrupt government is forcing us to swallow. I agree that those who have focused solely on the 9/11 issue are wasting their time, we’ve got a lot more problems than that to deal with.
Focus on waking people up to the vast corruption, and the over-all NWO agenda, which 9/11 was only a part of.
matt Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 11:07 am
true 9-11 was only a small part of the NWO agenda, but it is the glaringly obvious untruth of it that should be their achilles heel! this IS the very issue that we should all be talking about at every turn because it is the one that will wake people up. healthcare and TARP and tea parties and all the rest of the dog and pony show will be moot points in the dark days of slavery to come. this issue must never be put to rest until we have exposed the where why whom and how of it entirely. it is the weak scale on the dragons belly. Stab that fucker with everything you’ve got!
August 11th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Very effective 911 wake up tool. Print it out. Hand it out. Open their eyes.
http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf
August 11th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Lets say that you or I took out the first ever life insurance policy on a loved. Suddenly 6 weeks later they died. Would you or I be under investigation or a possible suspect? Probably. What if the insurance company, who also happens to be the same company that disiminates information to the world, is the same one that never verified the reason that your loved one died in the first place BEFORE they paid you? Would the insurance company along with you also be under investigation?!! Absolutely when you understand how laundering drug money through insurance companies work (insurance companies never have to explain where they got the money to pay a claim!!).
And now the planes of 9-11. The lease holder of the WTC’s just 6 weeks before 9-11 took out a multi BILLION dollar “terrorist insurance policy”….the FIRST one ever issued on US soil!!! GE which underwrote the policies and owns the media outlets which would have told you that, NEVER verified a single piece of debris from a single plane from 9-11 before they paid out BILLIONS of “claims”. The insurance companies as a whole paid out over $40 Billion dollars within ONE MONTH of 9-11 and never verified a SINGLE PIECE of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11.
If you or I took out a billion dollar life insurance policy on a loved one and they died 6 weeks later, would these companies pay a penny until every legal and verifiable stone was unturned?!!!
I too am learning that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Thats what those letters mean: TWNCPONE. I am now putting that everywhere I go.
August 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
9-11 truth is a failure because they do not understand the notion of “intent” and “knowledge”. They plainly do not know what they are doing.
August 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Wow,…I posted here at #8 of 7 comments…and I come back to shows my girlfriend, and now the “counter” says “30 Comments” and mine is nowhere to be found…huh!!
August 11th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
once we get the movement to go down a rat hole that there were no commercial planes on 911, you might as well throw in there were no commercial buildings either … you could also suggest that invaders from mars took down the towers because they obstrusted their view of venus. did you know that there was no commercial UFO’s on 911. Ive got to put some more bong water in.. ill be right back with the starteling conclusion to this epic theatrical…these trolls have got it right finally they understand that there were no commercial buildings in new york city on 911. so lets just do drugs and think of some other stupid shit to tell truthers.
tommJ Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
This is the same kind of ridiculing logic and tactics used agains gays and lesbians. It says…”well if they want gay marriage then they will want marriage with animals next?” Its a kind of false association that has nothing to do with the topic. This person above then states that to even mention the idea that there were no commercial planes on 9-11 means that: they do drugs, references to bong water, no buildings existed, alien invaders from Venus, ufo’s, etc. These are common tactics of shills and troll. They provide NOTHING in terms of evidence or constructive discourse. Just ridicule, put downs, and child like topic changes.
There were no commercial planes on 9-11.
Steve Williams Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
(sigh)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq7ZYeKuQcE
Moral of the story: Don’t automatically assume your personal opinions are the Laws Of The Cosmos as they very well may not be.
August 11th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
No foul language,no petty bickering,no personal attacks on other commenters…I guess that’s why it got disappeared????…
August 11th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
It’s hard to see that most people can’t even switch to first gear !!!
August 11th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
The great majority of people on the planet know that the events of 9/11 were orchestrated by Cheney et al. at the behest of the banks that comprise the Federal Reserve.
The fact that there has been no official government or major media acknowledgment of this fact cannot be surprising, since the government and major media were involved in the events and in the coverup.
The idea that “effective political strategies” will somehow change this is naive. No strategy can be effective when the game is rigged. The only solution is to walk away from the game.
When we realize that we don’t have to play their game, when we realize that we don’t have to prove anything to people with earplugs in their ears, when we realize that we ARE the new America and and that we are the new world, when we realize that the so-called New World Order is simply the dark dream of a small group of psychopaths, then our path becomes clear.
And we are walking it.
Andrew Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Jock Doubleday, that was very well said.
reconmarine Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
So? What you say is a good thing. MOSSAD own(NWO)s the “media”. We did 9/11, what are you going to do about it? You cannot even stop my cover-up!!!! Watch “Fabled Enemies” if you want to see how we did it. http://video.google.com/videop.....0875239407
August 11th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
This is sad, but the REAL problem, here, is that the “lame-stream-media” (LSM) is focused on the 30 second “sound bite”. The complexities of 9/11 simply CANNOT be adequately explained in 30 seconds!
For that matter, the complexities of Constitutional Law and Government is also a story which CANNOT be adequately explained in 30 seconds. Until the LSM returns to the more “DOCUMENTARY” format of the 1950s and 1960s (having 1 or 2 hour documentaries to explain complex issues) the public will probably NEVER understand ANY issue of substance! The result is lack of results and “cognitive dissonance”: people holding two mutually exclusive ideas at the same time, while believing BOTH of them to be true. The use of eugenically inspired chemicals and poisons in food and water to “dumb down”, “medicate” and “make placid” the populace is also “contraindicated” for resolving complex issues…
tommJ Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
“The complexities of 9/11 simply CANNOT be adequately explained in 30 seconds!”
I agree, it can be summed up in 5 seconds: THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11!
August 11th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
TWNCPONE has posted 4 times here can you guys which ones he posted? I will give you a hint: No Commercial Planes. Why would someone spend hours sock puppet posting the same crap everywhere?
dont know Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
not sure. maybe we should ask the military why they do it?
August 11th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
This is a pathetic article. Of course. the mainstream media is largely to blame. They did NOT one bit of credible journalistic research into 9/11. The Truthers are not to blame. The fault is in the media, government, and brain-dead zombies who are our fellow citizens.
August 11th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
There is a book coming out in September on 9/11. It’s by the senior counsel of the 9/11 Commission. The book does not claim 9/11 was an inside job, which, of course, it was. But it does conclude that nearly everything we’ve been told about 9/11 is not the truth-that we’ve been lied to. Perhaps the book might provide an impetus for a real investigation.
August 11th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Our msm is not to blame. They are simply following orders, just like a soldier. The US media corporations are owned by the top US military corporations. GE owns NBC, Westinghouse owns CBS. These corporations will never do a story that says the wars which have brought them trillions of dollars in income is now bogus? That’s not the way it works. Media corporations that are owned by the military corporations will never ask for verifiability to planes or WMD’s, will never question any military actions or decisions, and will provide constant stories of war, insurgents, militants, Taliban, al-qaudi, terrorism, terrorists, homegrown terrorists, prisons at gitmo, terrorists in other countries, and the never ending fight on terrorism. Those are probably the stories you’ve been hearing and watching for the last 8 years correct?
GONZOLONG Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Ahhhh,the Nuremburg Defense….a true Classic…huh?…
huh Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Our current military in the US has no clue what the Nuremburg trials were or what they were about. Even if they did they would still do what they were told. To get into the military today they ask you point blank “would you kill a US citizen on US soil”? If they answer no, they are not accepted. We are recruiting people who will never care what happened at Nuremburg.
August 11th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Joel S. Hirschhorn: ~ Stay at school dopey!
Who’s going to seriously investigate???…The whole shows controlled, and corrupt to the core!!!
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By the way, the initial ‘S’ doesn’t impress, if anything it makes you appear to be a pretender!
Run along dullard…go play with your classmates!
new zealander Reply:
August 16th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
why don’t you just go do what you ausseis do best and jerk yourself off and you wonder why so many of you get the living shit kick’t out of you when you travel overseas just make sure you stay the fuck out of n”z when the shit hits the fan OZI”OZI”OZI”"”"”"”"”yeah!!!Jerk”Jerk”Jerk…………………………….
August 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
As long as you have steak, red wine and a good job who needs the truth?
Peter Crawford Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 12:00 am
you wont have steak for ever
“working”
Just remember how good it was to support your self, when you dont have a job and live on the street. just remember, You dont the need the tuth, your an example of the ones ruleing this world, who cares about people, who cares about the truth, im doing good stuff the rest of them
August 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
“. . . the right wing attacks on health care reform.” This statement is indicative of Hirschhorn’s error.
He goes on to say, “The least delusional and defensive in the truth movement should think deeply and seriously on what needs to change to accomplish the prime goal: having an official investigation that compels most people and history to accept the truth, no matter how painful it is, including the possibility that it finds no compelling evidence for government involvement.”
Is he delusional? He must be if he truly thinks allowing the government to investigate itself is going to make a difference.
August 11th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
there is a simple solution to find whether or not the WTC was brought down by explosives. hire the Mythbusters to do a well-funded, well-televised event in which those buildings are rebuilt somewhere in the Nevada desert, build them to scale, fly a remote-controlled jet w the same amount of fuel at the same speed, see what happens. what would it cost, about the same as one shitty summer action movie?
August 11th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Funny thing is, is that the mythbuster jokes did an experiment with thermite and ice which caused an explosion just the other day. Thermite. I thought only the military could get that?
Anyway, I believe they did do some type of experiment regarding 9/11 and it made truthers look foolish (of course).
They are part of the problem and not for the solution.
We are many that believe the truth and I don’t waste time trying to convince others. We need to stick together and be prepared for what is coming. What 9/11 started. This is scary shit and all that are awake need to prepare for another false flag that will bring out the worst of the NWO.
http://farmwars.info/?p=1314
Sparky Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
“Only the military can get thermite”?
Hardly. Thermite is simply Aluminum powder and iron oxide (rust) mixed together. However only the military can create nano-thermite which is extremely extremely tiny particles of aluminum bonded with the rust at below electron-microscopic scale.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
@Simple Solution– I had concluded that the military must have conducted precisely this type of test sometime between 1990 and 1996.
Yesterday, I heard it repeated on the News, Obama’s ‘Declaration’ that the Terrorists attacked NYC on 9/11. What a fucking crock of shit. Why would people allow successive residents to perpetuate such blatently ‘unproven’ myths?
August 11th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
What get’s me about y’all is this…THINK about the Air Defense Grid…were they in the Chow Hall??? No Stingers/Avengers to be found!!! Riiiiiiiiiight!!! Total BuLLLshit!!! A 2/44 ADA BN 3rd Herd 101st ABN Hua!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
reconmarine Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
The Pentagram/ I mean Pentagon is the most well protected building in the world. That is why an incompetent “pilot” was able to do an impossible stunt into it’s side when the country was on highest alert. LOL just kidding, my boss “chickenhawk” Cheney ordered the whole military to stand down so the global hawk could fire the cruise missile into it’s side.
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Is global hawk the name of a larger aircraft than the type of aircraft known as global hawk?.
Theywontchipme Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 11:25 am
http://www.globalsecurity.org/.....426_52.jpg
payload carrying remote piloted drone aircraft w/ wingspan of 737
hipo Reply:
August 15th, 2009 at 8:19 am
thx m8
keep trying Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Hani Hanjour the supposed highjacker of flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon was 5 FEET TALL!!! He weighed around 110-120 lbs. He brought the entire plane and all the passengers to their knees including the pilots….despite the fact that over 70% of the flight “passengers” had extensive military combat hand-to-hand training! 2 weeks before 9-11 Hani failed a written driver’s license test because “he could not read or write ENGLISH!” This was in response to a ticket he got while driving. He paid the ticket and then tried to pass the test to avoid points. In other words he was looking forward to saving money in the future???!?!??!?!?!
Instead he then pulls off one of aviations most incredibly outstanding stunts pulling 7 G’s in a downward spiral at 600 mph at ground level ONE FOOT off the ground and into the Pentagon into an almost completely empty part of the Pentagon which had just been “reinforced” by the same company doing “reinforcement work” at the WTC’s 1,2,5,6, and 7 buildings in NYC.
ps…..there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
hipo Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 2:55 am
@ 600 mph a large commercial plane can`t make a dive at all even with the controles
set in the full forward position {decent} the air speed must be lower to dive although it
can nose dive but thats out of control.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Oliver Stone is clearly ‘one of them.’
The truth is that ‘freedom of speech’ was eliminated in this country around the time of the Great Wars. We were lied into War, by an elite clique of publishers who had a vested interest in profiteering from the increased industrial output of companies like Farber, Bayer, et. all.
Following WWII, nobody has been ‘brave enough’ to make ANY major Hollywood releases that question the official stories about any of the significant issues of our day. Instead, they have given us a steady diet of grand lies–movies like ‘Independence Day’ and ‘Terminator’ which tend to reinforce the need for some invisible all-powerful government to take care of us.
Internationally, many many people must have concocted brilliant scripts dealing with the falsehoods of the US political machine. Many great movies may exist, but we will never see them receiving great awards here. Following 9/11, all I can see the public doing to fight back is simply selecting certain publishers and boycotting their work. For instance, what if EVERYBODY had attacked Spielberg’s work; I demand you remove that filth from my local theater marque!
“Illogical” collusions of interests, –clear cases of conspiracy to commit murder–these are the ’smoking guns’ which ought to trigger just such a war of financial one-ups-manship.
August 11th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
I tried to post links to scientific PDF documents and it gets censured by the moderator. Why?
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Sit happens on a mission
August 11th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
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August 11th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I too disagree with the notion put forth in this article that the truth movement will not succeed. Thanks to ae911 DVD I’ve got a lot more people on board around me. Our numbers are growing; we’ve got to keep up the pressure. Don’t despair people, momentum is on our side. Maybe some day soon an insider will crack under the moral imperative and blow the goddamned whistle. If YOU are that person, maybe your time has come to enter into the sunshine and be a hero for all time. You will be lauded for eternity for doing the right thing regardless how much blood is on your hands.
Meantime truthers don’t let this kind of talk get us down. We need to hear it and yes we need to change our tactics, but we ain’t quitting. I’m encouraged by the recent Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth. And I think this this coming anniversery is going to be significant. Check out the new Dylan Avery film. Despite the dire state of affairs and disapointment surrounding Obama we’ve got to keep our chins up. Ron Paul 2012.
Theywontchipme Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Yeah I hear you. I feel like Global Research just reached out and slapped me in the face!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
It’s a tactical error to defocus. If you have a strong point to make, you should concentrate on it until the issue gets resolved. Moving continuously across a spectrum of issues without pushing any to the breaking point just means that ultimately nothing will change. We are controlled largely through our susceptibility to distraction. If elements in one’s government conspired to manipulate public opinion by means of a terrorist act causing the deaths of nearly 3,000 persons, this would seem to be an important issue to hammer home.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
I learned this from the movie, North Dallas Forty.
Seeing through the game and winning the game are two different things.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
im trying all i can to make people wake up. but if you need a reason to tell the american people why they need to find out what really happened on 9/11, tell them that we need to tell the american ruling class that they do not have the right to kill us to get things that they want. are people in the truth movement still not sure that al qaeda had nothing to do with it. it was controlled demolition. it was a missile at the pentagon. those things dont happen if the american government doesnt want them to happen. bush could not trust 19 morons with flying commercial airliners into buildings.im hoping that some in the truth movement dont have some waking up to do themselves. it was the american government 100%.
Theywontchipme Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
THEY HAD PLENTY OF HELP FROM ISI, MOSSAD AND MI6 TO NAME A FEW IT WAS A GLOBAL INSIDE JOB!!
August 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Why is it when I try to post that they do not appear on your website infowars! I cant believe that this is happening on your site. I put my email in and my name and still no posting, what gives?? I love your website but this is ridiculous…….
Doc Holliday Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Alex’s crew is censoring out my comments to this article. All I did was point out to the writer of this article that it is insane to expect the criminal cartel which did the false flag attack of 911, to investigate it. I pointed out this was totally a false flag attack by the shadow American government, and that both parties are the same party, the party of the New World Order. My comments are being censored worse here than in the corporate government controlled newspapers.
August 11th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
END NAFTA AFTA AND THE FED AND INCOME TAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 11th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
So I make a good post showing how the writer of this article is a complete moron, and they censor it out?? Good LORD Alex, stop censoring our posts. You are getting worse than a corporate newspaper.
August 11th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
The real reason that the truth movement was unsuccesfull untill now has to do with the psychological success of the attacks.
Contrary to what people assume reason is not the factor people decide their actions and beliefs. Emotions are the key factor in decisionmaking. Emotions have always been essential to surviving not reason, not reason.
When an traumatic event takes places like 911 it changes the way people think, it changes the brain. It makes emotions rule over reason. It makes the reptilian brain rule over the rest of the brain.
The truth movement never made clear how this campaign worked, how their brain works, but still that probably would not have been succcesfull.
They should have gotten the same emotional marketing in their message.
Marketing based on fear and hate for the government and Bush in particular, also referring to other more accepted lies and crimes.
To take down Nazi’s you have to adopt Nazi propoganda methodes otherwise you fail.
The sheep will be sheep, that’s the painfull truth.
August 11th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
911 and the war on terror is a lie. Al-qaeda are pawns for the NWO and CIA. they go into countries and destablize them, then USA/NATO or NWO moves in. They have a huge base in Iraq and are building another in afganistan. They are encircleing Russia and turning former warsaw pact nation into NATO nations.
August 11th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
We need to organize a general strike to force the government out. As long as we continue to work and pay taxes to these criminals then they can continue to exist. All we have to do is stop working for a little while and they will dissolve like a bad dream. STOP WORKING FOR THEM.
August 11th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Hi all;
I heard that 9/16 was an inside job, is that true?
chemtrailzombie Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
a very expensive controlled demolition but thats all right they stoled all the gold out from under the building that helped pay for all the thermite and things!
Solutions Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
I should have also mentioned, Obama is running in the same relay race and in the case of the stimulus, it’s just like passing the batton in a relay race. They full damn well know what they are doing and the entire mess is an inside, controlled demolition, just like 9/11, that served to provide all the chaos and excuses to justify what’s happening. What we are witnessing is the awakening and realization of VERY STRATEGIC PLANNING over time.
Make no mistake, you are either with global reconstruction and centralization, or you are the resistance and soon to be viewed as domestic Taliban in America because you know and in your heart can see it’s an UNDISCLOSED criminal operation, which can only lead to war, misery and the death of many. It is the road to tyranny.
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Mate you should check out the KPMG office in the Swiss canton of Zug thats the financial
center of the 911 scam.
August 11th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
these brained washed psychopaths will do any thing to hide the evil truth as they bowl down on there knees to poominati!
August 11th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Hey everyone, check out my new website. I read the news, then get mad at it.
http://www.joshfulton.blogspot.com
August 11th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
The CIA and FBI apparently assassinated President Kennedy. Rumors have it that JFK, Jr. was assassinated by his co-pilot, a MK Ultra mind-controlled victim working for the “shadow government.” The switch to the gas tank in his plane was turned off! Everything is run by the illuminiti. Just follow Henry Kissinger. We have been living in a world of make believe. We are getting ready to see what the evil ones have in store for us.
Solutions Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Yeah, people are waking up and it’s like realizing tectonic plates and continental drift are very real, politically speaking that is. Way back when during the days of JFK, the head of the same snake moved and some recognized it for what it was, a sanke from underground. They beat the rap though, by frustrating and running everyone out to exhaustion and after decades most gave up the chase and simply forgot. But here it is again, the same old same old snake that simply went underground, that has suddenly reappeared.
Realize one thing, Herbert has been there before, during and after. “And now we can see a new world order coming into view. When we are succesful and we will be – - -” Make no mistake, this was and is NO MISTAKE and as the man said, “we ain’t gonna lose” – just another case of Walker admitting it was a case of pilot error and he had no idea it was coming – yeah right!
reconmarine Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
JFK jr. was definitely assassinated, but we used small radio controlled explosives to blow the wings off. We sabotaged the radio.
August 12th, 2009 at 12:11 am
here’s an experiment id like every one to try… go to your compadres in the office and mention to them that there were no commercial buildings on 911… try to keep a straight face while doing this or you’ll ruin the effect. then after that statement of troll tongue rolls off your lips, throw in how you have no underwear on right now and how naughty you feel. the two statements should be followed up with some of your fantasies of smelling the litter box. this one method has helped me reach thousands of tuned out people that were half awake. after those ridiculous statements and you have their full attention… drop the bomb and tell them that there were no commercial planes on 911 . these no planes guys are so sterile they are no fun, they cant loosen up at all with full birds watching them all the time. everything has to be politically correct and im a gay hater and all this bs…. these no planes guys are boring to read, they should all be demoted 1 pay grade, and no cafeteria desert until things improve around here…
Steve Williams Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Actually, Mark Burnback, a reporter for Fox News at the moment said he saw one of the planes go right by him and he said that there was a blue roundish logo on the front and that the plane had no passenger windows.
August 12th, 2009 at 12:34 am
GENERAL STRIKE! All you have to do is do nothing! Can’t you see the perfect irony in this? We take down the gov’t and take down corporations by simply doing nothing. Don’t work for them! We relax. Go on picnics. Play softball. Wait until the gov’t collapses and start over. You don’t have to fire a shot, protest, or get thrown In jail. It’s the perfect way to bring the blood sucking leeches begging for us to do something ON OUR TERMS. It’s the simple sacrifice we all can make together to make the change happen. LET’S DO IT!
August 12th, 2009 at 12:50 am
People truly need to wake up. The evidence for 9/11 truth is so overwhelming it’s hard to believe that not everyone has accepted the truth: that 9/11 was a controlled demolition project set up by the US government used to frame a foreign organization as an excuse to become militarily involved in the Middle East.
I’ll tell you all now, I am about as generic as they come, white middle-class, 16 year old kid.
I am fully aware of many of the conspiracies the United States government has put forward in order to manipulate the masses into supporting whatever the current interest of the elite powers are.
IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE.
The president always meets with other political members, but do you EVER see the president meet one-on-one with a normal, everyday citizen?
I propose that the people demand the president to meet at least once a year with a citizen, not a senator or mayor or governor, a regular CITIZEN, that will be elected by the people, with popular vote, NOT some electoral college bullshit. The president should have absolutely no problem doing this, if he does, it just proves even more that he is a coward puppet. The event would air on major networks LIVE, just as a debate would.
If this happened, I bet the people of the US would start to wake up… because I know if I got to meet with Barack on live TV, I would ask about Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, the War on Terror, but most importantly, I would ask about 9/11.
I would lay the facts out to him right in front of his face and watch him fade into stupor over what just happened.
Anyone who wants real change to come to this country, know this:
We must start by exposing the truth about 9/11.
If put other things on hold and concentrated solely on exposing 9/11, everything else would have a domino effect. People aren’t willing to listen to us talk about Bilderberg, or similar things, because no one really knows about them, and if they don’t have common knowledge of it, they won’t care about it. But people know about 9/11, if they come the realization that our government can so easily deceive the people, trust me, they will have more questions.
Please spread this idea and message.
Axiom Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:03 am
you’re one really smart kid , great post .
August 12th, 2009 at 3:04 am
HERE IS THE VICTORY OF 911 TRUTH
this article published by newspaper syndicate UPI—the victims families want a new investigation
this is the first mainstream article about 911 truth—without smears
the victims families that have joined 911truth are the diamond spearhead of this entire endeavor—they are the right ones to get this done—-perhaps i am poetically exagerating a little–but still—they are the victims–
8-10-09
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Group calls for renewed Sept. 11 probe
Published: Aug. 10, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Related Stories
* Prosecutors compete for Gitmo terror cases
* First 9/11 death trial to start in April
* Reopening of Sept. 11 illness fund urged
* Judge favors Sept. 11 pretrial secrecy
NEW YORK, Aug. 10 (UPI) — A group of people who lost loved ones in the 2001 attack on the World Trade Center says they want the City of New York to investigate the disaster.
“We know we never have learned the truth, it’s as simple as that,” said Lorie Van Auken of East Brunswick, N.J., whose husband was killed in the attack.
Van Auken was among the widows who lobbied for the creation of the federal Sept. 11 commission in 2002. That commission didn’t go far enough in its findings, Van Auken told The (Newark, N.J.) Star-Ledger in a story published Monday.
Van Auken now is affiliated with the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now, a group that is collecting signatures to require the New York City Council to place the creation of an investigating commission on the November ballot.
Robert McIlvaine of Oreland, Pa., whose son died in attacks, also wants a local investigation.
“It’s very simple — I’m a father who lost his son,” McIlvaine said. “Why wouldn’t any father want to know how and why his son died?”
new way--media war Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 3:15 am
also—it seems to be worth noting—
the media syndicate that posted this objective story about 911 was ‘UPI’.
maybe it would be good to focus future efforts at getting through to that massive media organization—
keep trying Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
The reason you will never have another independent investigation of 9-11 is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Any independent investigation would immediately try to verify the plane debris to make sure that 9-11 was exactly as we have been told. Just one problem, there were no commercial planes on 9-11. No debris will ever be verified.
The reason that everything will be kept in “secrecy” and never released to the public is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason the families will NEVER ask for verification of plane debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 is because there is NONE! There were NO commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason the NYC CAN ballot will fail miserably for no particular reason is because then you would learn that there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason UPI will never do a story about the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11 is because there is a presidential order that says if you did your media outlet would be shut down for reasons of “national security”. There were no commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason Gitmo trials are held in secret and confession by torture is always accepted and legal is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is based ENTIRELY on a fraud. That’s why these “terrorists” all have military lawyers, they will never try to EVER verify what 9-11 was in the first place which was planes crashing.
The reason that many victims families feel they have never learned the truth is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Any independent investigation would immediately focus on verifying the debris from the planes. There isn’t any. After 8 years not ONE single speck of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations from 9-11 has EVER been verified in ANY WAY by ANYONE!!!! Despite what you might “think”, that unfortunately is true. Why? Because there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason the original 911 Commission didn’t “go far enough” or verified any debris from any of the planes, was because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Google and watch all the parts of “September Clues”.
Always remember that witnesses, video, photos, and film…..regardless of how much and how many…..have NEVER in aviation history verified a plane crash. Only wreckage and debris verifies a plane crash. Not one single piece of debris from any plane on 9-11 has EVER been verified. Not one piece. Why? Because TWNCPONE.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:14 am
It amazes me how politicians expect us to believe them when they never offer any concrete proof on anything that they say and are willing to refute proof when it is offered. Its as though they have a license to deceive and are obligated to do the same. I would never have the nerve to deny apparent facts and lie as they are willing to do. Common sense alone makes the 911 event questionable. “Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth” should be enough to force this out into the open. I have a technical background though not in architectural engineering and it appears that to believe the party line one would have to change the laws of physics, thermodynamics, and statistics.
Since a large percentage of legislators and government shills tend to be law profession rejects and their stock and trade is lying and deception they have the advantage over the public who is willing to accept them as all knowing authority figures.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:23 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSmVmg544_0
August 12th, 2009 at 8:51 am
everything depends on NYC CAN
August 12th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Still to this dat Alex Jones does not want to find out more about the Israelis clout in this whole matter and no I am not a Jew hater.
August 12th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
God will prevail. It time to turn to God.
Reply
hipo Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
You got a compass heading there bud?.
August 12th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Sons of Liberty – Warning to the NWO – The funniest bloopers are right here
August 12th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
You didn’t delete this????
August 12th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
So let me see if I got this right.
DOOMSDAY DAT Ohh I can`t be arsed.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Many people genetically can’t wake up, it’s impossible. It’s the soft-kill, the chem-trails, the vaccines, the GMO foods, the fluoride. Combine that with the brainwashing from the MSM, and all the other garbage on TV that most people watch, and have faith in every day. That’s a given, not all will make it, the pathway is too narrow, and if you are on it be thankful to no longer be a sheep.
A real investigation will not happen, the elitist scum knew that when the planned 911. These are evil geniuses folks, psycho-paths to the trillionth power on steroids. They also knew there would be the group of us, the truthers that would see through the fog, but they also knew we’d be fighting an uphill battle trying to wake up the sheep that just can”t be waken up.
The answer lies with the top of the pyramid itself, the Bilderberg group, and all who attend the meetings. You can bet your bottom dollar that someone has the plans for 9/11 archived someplace on some computer or database. Although we try to wake up all the sheeple, the real hope is that law enforcement and military will wake up, and show up at the Bilderberg meetings that aren’t supposed to “exist” that the small groups of protesters have been going to, and breaking up their little party, arrest and detain everyone at the meeting. It’s that or a citizens arrest, because they are in violation of the Logan Act. The proof that 9/11 is an inside job, and about every other staged event lies with the people attending Bilderberg. The puppets they control will never get us to the dance.
We must arrest and detain every single member of the Bilderberg meeting. The hour is getting late, and these people meet yearly, we are losing time. At the bare minimum why isn’t every single person interested in truth and justice at the locations of their meetings, surrounding them? We have the proof scientifically, florensics.. Thermate was used, they blew the buildings up, towers 1,2, and 7 are all the evidence you need, Shanksville, The Pentagon are jokes and are not even needed to prove the point of the inside job after proving they blew the towers up!
When we see 10’s of thousands of not millions of people at the Bilderberg location, that will be a big deal, the media can’t say Bilderberg don’t exist at that point, although they will try. But I would really like to see the day when military or law enforcement goes in and drags them all out of their meeting, and confiscates all their paperwork, PDA’s, laptops and everything else.
Forget the middle men, we need to go straight to the top, that’s the answer. Start focusing on the people in ENDGAME, BLUEPRINT FOR GLOBAL ENSLAVEMENT! That’s the key.
August 12th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Personally, I don’t see any involvement from the US Government. That said, I do think it is possible that Islamic terrorists could have planted explosives in those buildings by posing as janitors or other WTC workers (or maybe they rented a few office spaces in key areas). I also think this could have been done by the group that Carroll Quigley mentioned in his book.
what Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Kramer……there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Without 9-11 the US is unable to borrow trillions of dollars and pre-emptively invade countries to start never ending global wars to kill millions of people. Look at the companies that were located at the EXACT spots where the “planes” hit the WTC’s 1 and 2. Just days before 9-11 massive “computer boxes” that were upwards of 10 ft high were positioned around the ENTIRE FLOORS of the companies that were “hit”. You must do this research yourself or you would never believe it.
lyncher Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:48 am
kramer, are you stupid, having said this, why the government didn’t interrogate “the janitors or WTC workers”? or they commited suicide staying in the buildings when blew’em up ?
Sparky Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Kramer, do some simple research before posting vague simplistic conjectures. All the evidence is there, and there is plenty of it, to show that the government manufactured the 9-11 attacks. No need for shady “middle-eastern” janitors planting explosives. That’s just stupid.
August 12th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
flying debris, fire, nor even jets cut steel beams to cause a perfect demolition. thermite does. thermite was found in the dust because ghouliani wasn’t able to scrub the entire crime scene clean… though he did leave a few associated press photos of perfectly cut steel beams.
you would have to be a complete retard to believe the government story after seriously looking at all the evidence, especially wtc 7 and the thermite.
whatever Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 6:51 am
That’s because there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
August 12th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Give it up, of course thermite was found, why don’t you look at what thermite is. Next you are going to say that we created Katrina and then we blew up up the levee’s. Be worried about Obamacide and the direction this country is heading. Conspiracy is all around us, since the dawn of time it has been here. You can make the truth into a lie by cooking up a conspiracy. Let’s fight Obamacide, at least this is something most can agree on.
August 12th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
infowars has been hyjacked by government moles gathering information about everyone to be used to induce marshall law. warning anyone with BLUE writing as there name, all your comments are being read within minutes by homeland security, NSA, CIA and others to build files against you.
August 12th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
I am deeply saddened by those who go the “no planes” route. It ridicules the truthers. 93 was shot down most likely. 175 and 11 did fly into the twins. Now, the Pentagon, that one I do question even though no plane does seem outrageous to most. However, to remain on topic, WE NEED A NEW 9/11 TOTALLY INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. Barrack is too busy with Georgie’s mess and has probably been told not to “go there”. We need a candidate for 2012 that makes crystal clear his intention to investigate 9/11 as soon as he gets in office. I would vote for that person right now. Even if it just ends up being gross negligence and incompetence, we Americans deserve to know the truth, let alone the world, for the largest tragedy on American soil. This has to be done for closure. If you believe 19 Saudi’s with box cutters forced NORAD to stand down and the fighter jets to play keystone cops on 9/11, you are out of your frickin mind. NO ONE fucks with the U.S.A. whether it was “internal” or bought and paid for through interests other than the little guy. We should be on the White House lawn with fire and pitchforks demanding a new investigation….
Hang everyone that committed treason in a public square. YES, you did know that people may try to fly airplanes into buildings before 9/11. YES, in our government. Honesty is the best policy. the money trail is important after ISI and does matter. and, finally, NO, it is not an absurd insinuation!
whatever Reply:
August 13th, 2009 at 6:49 am
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. However you wish to justify that you were not lied to is up to you. Did you do the same thing when you found out you were lied to about the WMD’s in Iraq? There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is a muderous fraud.
SHillzRUs Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:02 am
The planes were not hijacked as we were told, that much is clear. 99 percent of the folks reading these comments know this so what is your point?
Also its clear that september clues is bullshit. Go sell your hologram crap to someone else.
Steve Williams Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Not speaking about holograms. Saying that the planes themselves were not commercial jetliners, but something else. The military can and does use the same kind of planes as the public sector, but military planes tend not to have passenger windows on the sides. One of the reporter witnesses stated that he saw no windows as the jet went right by him.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:10 am
All airline pilots need to be the ones to strike, our economy is only staying afloat by tourist who are coming over here with money given to them by the nWO.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:36 am
badly written article.
benefits of finding the truth abound
redeployment of capital to nonmilitary constructive uses
humility
August 13th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
This was used as actual film footage by the FBI that a plane crashed in Shanksville!!!! Cant you just see the plane?!!!1
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LYmo.....200058.jpg
lyncher Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
zhills must watch the picture, he’s gonna come with this…..plane and passengers desintegrated, lol.
Steve Williams Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
There’s nothing there. So where are the plane and passenger parts? They had to be somewhere. As far as I know, no one yet has a phaser that can be set on vaporize. All the mass of that plane had to end up somewhere on the ground. Maybe spread all over, but still there somewhere.
HUH Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Steve…amazingly not ONE single piece of debris from ANY of the 4 planes from ANY of the 4 locations on 9-11 has ever been verified by anyone! There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is based on a lie.
August 13th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
The US legislature is funding a military occupation of Iraq that they don’t have the legal authorization for. Because the temporary, conditional SOFA ratification expired July 30, 2009 when the required ratification referendum wasn’t held before the mandatory deadline contained in articles 2 & 3 of the ratification law.
The SOFA is unratified, null and void. The illegal occupation funding should be cut off and the illegal U.S. occupation force confined to base and withdrawn from Iraq as soon as possible.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:21 am
8 years since the spet 11 th attsaack and the truth movement is stronger then ever, is the conomic collpase, swine flu and the health care deabate to speciifcally designed to take away from the 9/11 truth??? keep the pressure on!!!
August 14th, 2009 at 9:01 am
“A common lie about the truth movement is that there have been no credible scientific articles in peer reviewed journals supporting it.”
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, name them.
Sparky Reply:
August 14th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Why don’t you do your own homework?
That’s what the rest of us did rather than confront people in comments section of web sites.
You can find scientific technical articles within seconds if you would only look.
You are obviously not interested in actually seeing any, you merely want to argue with people who have already learned the truth by doing their own research.
If you want links to technical papers and reports go to http://www.ae911truth.org/ where there are at least 11 links to technical articles on the first page and a link that will bring you to a lot more articles. (It’s in the section called “Technical Articles”).
Also Google isn’t hard to use if you really wanted to know.
But of course you don’t.
August 14th, 2009 at 10:50 am
the problem is that an “official” investigation will surely, and has already exonerated the obviously guilty fuckers who committed mass murder. it is tantamount to asking the corrupt chicago police department to invetigate itself for it’s many crimes. i know this will be shocking, but they always find themselves innocent of wrong-doing! why on earth would we trust a corrupt murderous regime with investigating itself?! we need to clean house. heads should roll whether they find themselves guilty or not.
August 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
To me 9-11 truth is too ’single issue’ and closes the door to 9-10 and 9-12 truth.
There are wolves in sheeps clothing at the heart of many of these so called ‘entrenched movements’ and too many people think signing up to a forum makes them part of the solution, not the problem… Egotistical moves to appease their own lack of action.
Doing something is better than doing nothing……
Only if whatyou are doing is going to actually achieve something,otherwise save your energy,will need it toget the flouride out of your system.
Who is to blame for 9-11 Truth failing? 6.5 billion people. We each play our part, if we are doing, are we doing it right, are we doing enough, are we doing it for the right reasons?
Or we are doing nothing worth doing…
I often state that to keep searching inside the boxx for an answer is futile, the past has failed us and repeating it will not help…
Be inventive, new, impulsive, different, unique and the solutions we all claim to be seeking WILL BE FOUND…
Respect to the people that deserve it,
MattG – britishnproud
August 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
hmm, just to contradict myself slightly…
Researching 9-11 has also been a door opener for many people, myself included.
Maybe millions of people thinking about thinking outside the box is a resounding success… Who said there has to be a timescale on sucess. Rome was not built in a day and it may take decades to dismantle it again.
Keep doing…
MattG
August 14th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Kinda fun to watch The Great 0 go down in flames, all while the citizens wrest their country back, isn’t it?
August 14th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Arrest all of the attendees at the Bilderberg meetings. The Bohemian Grove can also be raided, it usually takes place before the Bilderberg meeting every year. We’ve already got all the florensic evidence for 911 being an inside job. These criminals like David Rockefeller, and Henry Kissinger write books and articles bragging about the evil they would like to have done, and done like yesterday.
Henry Kissinger wrote that 80+% of the world population needs to be eliminated in 1973. That’s not suspicious? These people are sick, they are criminals they are the puppet masters controlling the puppets. They are nothing but a handful of elites vs. all of us.. a GIANT.. a sleeping giant just starting to wipe the sleep from our eyes, while they poke and prod us to focus our attention on everything else but them. When will enough be enough? We must arrest them all, if police and military won’t do it, the people must organize together and go place them all under a citizens arrest, seize all of their computers, and files.. they have documented all their crimes, it’s basic criminology 101, they are proud of their crimes! You can drag em to their prison cells for violating the Logan Act, then say.. ooops.. lookie what we have here.. plans for 911, and the controlled demolition of the towers, looks like you all won’t be going anyplace for a loooooooong time.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Text of the Logan Act
§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).
Since the attendees of the Bilderberg meetings have been going for many years, just make the Logan Act Violation retroactive, and make sure they all have to go to prison, no getting off with fines. Take all the money from the fines, and give it to the people for a real bailout, and for robbing them via the illegal income tax for all these years. While they sit in prison for a minimum of 3 years, their seized computers and other data storage will continue to spit out all of their other crimes, especially 911.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
It will be an arrest fest, you can arrest Bush, Cheney, GHWB, Obama, Clinton, Hillary, Rick Perry.. and the list goes on, and on and on.. and especially the Rockefellers, and Kissinger. Then just like on shows like Speeders, where you see cops driving hummers that were seized from drug dealers, take their vehicles and paint seized from George W. Bush For Treason To The USA. Seriously, the Logan Act provides the opening needed to go after these people, all of them.
August 14th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Those who control the media are in a position to suppress evidence, generate distration and propaganda. Distractions and prograganda are all we’ve seen from ABCCBSNBCCNNFOXNEWCORPAOLTIMEWARNERDISNEYUNIVERSALINFINITYGE.
Science does not lie. In that WTC dust we have more than enough evidence of aerosoled iron, oxides of magnesium, iron and thermite to convene a Grand Jury and bring charges against many. The U.S. government was directly involved in 911. Bearded men from the caves of Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia COULD NOT have gained entry into WTC building 1, 2 and building 7 and planted explosives on every floor in sone of the most secure buildings…….it didn’t happen people. No, rather, your government pulled this off so that we could be justified to invade IRAQ to find ‘weapons of mass destruction’. No such weapons have yet been found. The bottom line is this: The ultimate betrayal is that the United States’ intelligence agencies killed 3000 of its own people and are behind this WITH the FULL COOPERATION of the US media in its own effort to facilitate the ongoing coverup and distration of the facts we see to this day. What are we going to do about it?
keep researching Reply:
August 15th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Brad….there were no commercial planes on 9-11. CDI, Controlled Demolition Inc, was seen in and around WTC’s 1,2,5,6, and 7 just weeks and days prior to 9-11. CDI even gave NPR interviews while they were in NYC doing “work” at the WTC’s just days BEFORE 9-11.
The US media corporations are financially owned and controlled by the top US military contractors. GE owns NBC, Westinghouse owns CBS. When you write about the US media as a form of suppression or distraction…..what do expect?!!!! Stories about peace…..or war?!!! GE has made over ONE TRILLION DOLLARS directly related to the crimes of 9-11. Do you think they will run stories to end that war?!!
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is based entirely on a murderous colluded fraud. Just like the WMD’s in Iraq.
August 15th, 2009 at 4:26 am
You have no idea what the New World Order Agenda is that’s coming…
http://www.AlienTrend.com
August 15th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
I don’t necessarily disagree with Mr. Hirschhorn but I do resent his condescending tone.
What strategies and methods does he advocate to bring the official investigation to fruition?
None. He’s above us all, shaking his head at us pathetic mortals.
August 15th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
KRAMMER YOU ARE A MORON Did you read Carrol quigleys TRAGEDY AND HOPE or THE ANGLO AMERICAN ESTABLISHMENT? ( both available from Radio Liberty Stan Monteiff) Carrol Quigley tells you over and over you moron that the round tables set up by Cecil Rhodes et tal control both political parties, the state dept, treasury, fed etc etc etc.He was allowed to study their documents and agreed with their plans.Did you read moron how Zimmern told him about how they planned two world wars????????? Bill Clinton said Quigley and JFK were his two mentors at his acceptance speach………Majority your are on the right track might I suggest ropes??????? Project Eschelon monitors all phone calls faxes e-mails etc. They monitor every word spoken. They have 100 key words. If you want to get their attention the word ther–ite missing the m is one of those words. Why do they flagg this word????? In the event of resistance that compound of rust and alumimun (get enough etch a schetches for some) will knock out a tank
August 16th, 2009 at 12:44 am
The 9/11 movemnet has many disinfo agents within it. These are hidden controllers working for parties that do not want the truth to be known. Beware of anyone calling themselves a truther on MSM, anyone saying there were no planes or any sites that say jews did it, there are aliens or deny the Holocaust. These groups are plants, coming up with stupid ideas making it easy to discredit them . There was a man on MSM saying there were no planes, this means this claim is a deliberate attempt to distract people from the truth. Hence the deceptive bloke that keeps posting that rubbish. Do your own research, the truth is there.
Steve Williams Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Do your own research.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq7ZYeKuQcE
The person here has been saying no commercial planes, not no planes.
In the USA, all passenger jets for the big commercial airlines have windows on their sides. Listen carefully to what Fox News reporter Mark Burnback says in the video.
August 16th, 2009 at 1:16 am
UFO’s/Aliens = propaganda, brought to you by the criminal bankers/scum elite.
Don’t waste your time on this trash.
“FAKE ALIEN UFO ATTACK – FALSE FLAG PLAN”
http://www.vloggingtheapocalyp.....deo_id=551
August 16th, 2009 at 7:07 am
loose change video explains it best
They have never spent the money on proper airline security because they all knew that there was no terrorist attack
remember the move with Dustin Hoffman The Tail Wags the Dog.
they can make you think anything they want
do you ever wonder why we do not get war footage like we did in Vietnam
they do not want you to see and think
there are protests and revolutions all over the country and they get no air time
they want you to think everyone is being quite
think outside the box
August 16th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Truth has become irrelevant to the eugenic elite masters of the planet. Only power to control is important. Power to control the media, power to control the judicial, power to control questionable medical and scientific statements has become the means to defeat TRUTH.
At this juncture it is plain to see that what really needs to occur to help save the nation is to begin locating and neutralizing the elite muderers and doing to them what they want and are daily trying to do to us.
Every eugenics supporter or organization and eugenics financial funding organization needs to be brought to real justice at the end of a rope and the sooner the better. Stopping the NWO push will mean a push back and unless we deal with the real enemies of America we will see eugenics rise again to threaten every human being on the planet.
August 16th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Even plane huggers Avery and Jayhan, and their ilk, accept that there was NO PLANES at Shanksville and the Pentagon. Why is it such a huge leap to accept that there were NO PLANES at all!
huh Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Saying there were no commercial planes in NYC exposes the US military owned media outlets to charges of conspiracy to murder. These media corporations colluded and covered up any discourse and discussion. Is it that miraculous for these criminals to stage murders using the exact same tactic in one place…..to actually use that SAME tactic at the same time for the same reasons in a DIFFERENT location?!!
Witnesses and video have never in aviation history EVER verified a plane crash. Only wreckage does. EXCEPT on 9-11. That is the ONLY aviation disaster that have been proven and verified through witnesses and video and NO wreckage?!!!!!
Steve Williams Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Indeed. WHERE is the wreckage? Why wasn’t it available to public scrutiny? The probability is that military jets were used instead. Something that parts serial numbers would reveal.
HUH Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 pm
There is no wreckage or public scutiny because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The “parts” that have been shown by th FBI regarding the planes of 9-11 have been REFUSED to every be verified?!!!! There were no commercial planes on 9-11.
August 16th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Shanksville maybe no plane, many eyewitnesses to New York and DC. Were explosives or some other device used, definitely. Is the war on terror a money making and resource plundering exercise, absolutely. The US and Israel are run by the same people, all they are interested is never ending wars for profit, particularly against Muslims.
hipo Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
It sure looks that way.
August 17th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!
Oh yeah? then where is the posting? You are censoring me and I want to know why! I left a cordial and reasoned posting.
August 17th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
I think that the patriots that criticize you must be right! I’ve had it! Im not returning!
August 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
9/11 will always be obscured the way JFK’s murder was obscured.Same cast of players,same goals,same burying of the truth under tons of half truths,disinformation,ridicule of real researchers. Anyone who has too much information,will end up like ex-FBI Agent John O’Neil.Starts his job as head of security at the WTC,and ends up as just another body lying on the heap.These people need to be prosecuted under the RICO Laws,if we can find someone with the guts to see it through.
hey Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Robin…..there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The lie is over. It is going to take time for that simple sentence to reach critical mass. There were no commercial planes on 9-11. One of the many things that it means is that the never ending global US war on terror is based entirely on a stage, fabricated, colluded, conspired, murderous fraud and lie. There were NO commercial planes on 9-11. No planes….no “terrorists”. No planes….no jet fuel to bring down buildings. No planes….ALL the locations will test negative for jet fuel. No commercial planes…..means NO testing or verification of plane debris will EVER be allowed. No commercial planes……means there will be millions of discrepancies with video, film, photos, and “witnesses”. (Watch all the parts of “September Clues” by Simon Shack.)
August 18th, 2009 at 7:43 am
The Arctic Sea and Black Op’s.
Speculation continues that the strange disappearance and reappearance of the cargo ship Arctic Sea, right, was part of a CIA rehearsal for another “terror attack” using a “hijack ship” to promote the “war on terror” the Bush Gang started with the mother of all inside job’s – 9/11.
Whoever switched the ships transponder off would have needed far less technical knowledge and equipment than that needed to turn off the transponders onboard the alleged 9/11 hijacks.
Russian blogs speculated that the “ship-jackers” were CIA patsies who had been paid a few million dollars “deposit” and promised millions more for delivering the ship and its cargo to an unmonitored (pirate) African port. Taking-over the ship and holding the crew hostage would have been easy for an armed gang.
Like the alleged 9/11 “hijackers”, who allegedly boarded the allegedly hijacked jets on 9/11, the patsies who boarded the Arctic Sea would have had no idea what would happen next.
Navy Seals could then have boarded the ship, disposed of the crew and the patsies, planted a crude nuclear device and put the ship on autopilot. The bomb could then be triggered later as the ship came within range of “suitable” targets – heavily loaded passenger ferries, oil or chemical tankers, or even a refinery.
Maybe the strange case of the Arctic Sea was just a dummy run?
http://www.sxolsout.org.uk/zarc.html
interesting Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
It has always amazed me that anytime there’s an explosion in Iraq or Aghanistan its immediately labeled a “suicide bombing”. How did the US military know this within seconds of the explosion? Well…..they paid some unknowing poor smuck to carry a back-pack into a crowd and then the US military simply triggered the explosion and immediately released a statment “solving” the crime?!!! Just like 9-11.
The world is now understanding the implications that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is based on a murderous fraud.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:19 am
those who believe that airpalnes were used on 911……show me your PROOF.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:20 am
AIRPLANES.
hipo Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
There are some video recordings made on 9/11/2001 which show what look like airplanes.
Which were used as a distraction to draw peoples attention away from the explostions
going off in the buildings.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Israeli troops ‘kidnap’ Palestinians for organs
Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:29:24 GMT
http://www.presstv.com/detail......=351020202
A leading Swedish newspaper claims Israeli soldiers kidnap Palestinians to steal their organs and sell them in the black market.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:15 am
This has to come out to the dumb public some day ! Then what they say move on it s in the past ??????
August 19th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Want to ask a congressman a question on Youtube?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coX9mYNPITU
August 19th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
ROCK THE PLANET 9.11.09 – GLOBAL PROTEST in the streets of every city/town across the world!!!
http://freedominfonet.webs.com
Rock The Planet is not about political affiliation, race, creed or national origin. It is about freedom. Freedom to live life fully without the hindrance of oppressive rule and unnecessary government intervention. This is about less government and MORE opportunity without the corruption that is pushed by world banks and corporations. This matter goes beyond national borders as corporations interrupt the lively-hood of millions of people in this country and across the world.
In your heart you must feel there is something wrong with the world. That perhaps the standards of living mandated by society, government and big business are holding you back? Maybe you are simply tired of too many taxes and the high cost of living or the unacceptable cost of health care set by the medical and pharmaceutical corporations? How about the destruction of our planet by global corporations? Perhaps you are worried about the future of your children and/or the world we are leaving to them?
No matter your concerns, Rock The Planet is a rally of humanity across this planet. Stand with us! On September 11th 2009 at 12:00 Noon Eastern Standard time, 10:00am Pacific Standard time(Click Here to find the time for your respective time zone) on the main streets of your own town or city. Join us as the people across the world fill the streets of every town, every city across the world simultaneously in peaceful protest for a RALLY OF HUMANKIND!
Let the world know that WE WILL ALL BE FREE! Bring your banners, signs, posters and megaphones and express what concerns you! Please understand that this is not about hatred or violence and there is no room for extremist/hate groups.
In the mean time, help us spread the word! Share the video! Make a video! Post this info in your blogs, emails, letters, local newspapers! Share with family and friends, even people on the street! Download the flyers, print them out and post them all over your local area!
hipo Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Have you seen people in offices with crossed eyes seem to abound on 9/11?
every year there seem to be more of them I don`t know if thats a good thing or a bad
thing but I have noticed it more as years go by.
August 20th, 2009 at 10:20 am
you need to watch this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtxN6vPpQ-s
August 20th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Had a credible enemy been attacking America on 9/11 President Bush’s total lack of response (between the explosions in the North Tower at 08: 46 am and the explosions at the Pentagon at 09: 38 am) gave the enemy enough time to nuke NORAD HQ, and wipe-out Washington DC & New York. Corrupt TV and newspapers criminally and continually fail to mention this First Principle for immediate Impeachment.
Perpetuating the 9/11 lies is the most un American activity ever invented.
Katie Cuckoo, Charlie Gibberish are committing Treason by working with Black-Ops to fool the people. The latest example being Lockerbie.
http://www.sxolsout.org.uk/p14aa.html
August 21st, 2009 at 3:57 am
AE911 TRUTH RELEASES NEW VIDEO OF EXPLOSIONS GOING OFF AT WTC (MUST WATCH) PLEASE SPREAD THE VIDEO. THANKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_B_Azbg0go
what Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 9:39 am
I like AE911 except for ONE major and massive issue. These AE911 scientists still DEMAND that you believe there were commercial planes that crashed on 9-11. Even though not one single piece of debris has ever been verified, even though the plane insurance companies have not paid a penny to replace the “crashed” planes because they have been unable to verify a single piece of debris, we are supposed to understand that these are professionals using standard verification processes?!!! Of course there were demolitions at the WTC’s….there was no jet fuel because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. This AE911 group is another shill organization to keep you from EVER discussing or learning the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. This also includes the worst shill group of them all…..WeAreChange. Research Dan Wallace to find out what happens when a member will not shut up about the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I believe there is a way to bring more media attention to this… http://www.flagupsidedown.com
August 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 am
I have a question for all of you , me being from South Africa and all.
America is by far the stronfest nation in the world.
It always stand for freedom and liberty !
Why dont you take you country back by force ! Liberate it in the name of freedom !
But then again it would seem like America is also the home of the wacko’s – As AJ HOMO LOVER pointed out above with his dumb ass remark.
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Killers rapist robers is much in our goverment . Vote then out send them to jail. All of then are a wormwood bitter wickness Rember we are noble they are wicked.
hipo Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Wormwood is the name of a flower in England in Russia the same flower is called Chernobyl.
August 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 am
The main reasons that the 9/11 truth movement is not gaining enough traction is because it is heavily infiltrated by counter intel shills. Another reason is that 9/11 truthers, do loads of research that may take days of study and try to “upload” all the data they have learned onto the unenlightened in ten minutes.
Most of the masses are conditioned by MSM propaganda. This means they have been exposed to hypnotic repeater techniques. (Repeating the same lie time and time again to get it to gain traction). This is how they get want they think is truth.
The masses have a false reality already inserted into their reality known as the official story. Because of this, the new data will only be accepted if the earlier false reality is proven to be unrealistic. This is the main reason that the message doesn’t communicate and gain traction. They think they already know the answer so you sound unreal to them.
The start of gaining traction isn’t who did 9/11 and how. Chanting, “9/11 was an inside job” is silly and from the viewpoint of the masses makes you sound like a crackpot. You’ll find that you can not prove 9/11 was an inside job in a simple way in a few sentences.
The real way to gain traction is to reverse the whole question: Eg; Who really did 9/11 becomes, “Who didn’t do 9/11?” Most people can do a very simple test in their back yards. It involves a steel barbeque, charcoal, starter fuel and some spare ribs.
Most people who believe the official version can accept that the WTC towers were steel framed buildings.
If they believe the official narrative, they will believe that the heat from burning jet fuel caused the steel support to melt and then collapse. JP1A which is the specification of commercial plane jet fuel is a hydra-carbon very similar to the starter fluid for charcoal barbecues.(You can actually use JP1A as barbecue starter fuel although it’s a bit smelly) The maximum temperature that this type of fuel can generate (without adding an oxidizer) is about 1,300 Celsius. This is less than half the melting point of steel.
For the official version to be true, we should be able to fully load and light the barbie and have the steel grill plate collapse into the burning coals before the ribs are cooked. If this doesn’t happen (despite repeated doses of starter fluid to boost the effect), then there’s something wrong with the official story.
If burning jet fuel cannot melt the barbecue grill then it’s pretty obvious it couldn’t melt the support beams of the trade towers. Therefore, the collapse could not have been due to the airplanes crashing into them. It’s physically impossible.
If you can show this in a simple demonstration, you wont need to explain more. What you have done is de-bunked the person’s fixed idea that the official story is true. He/she will then ask “who did it then”? Tell them you don’t really know but refer them to any of the many 9/11 truth docs are which there are many like Loose change final cut.
Remember that a person or persons who have accepted the official version as true will have very little interest in the subject at all. He/she will not see the relevance of some event that they consider happened a long time ago. The barbeque demonstration implants the idea that they have been lied to. (A demonstration is much more powerful than an argument). Act apathetic (This is real to their state of mind on the subject). Tell them that you are not exactly sure what caused it or who did it and simply refer them to further study.
I sometimes make a joke. I suggest people that think the trade centers building were brought down by airplanes crashing into them had better avoid barbecues because of safety concerns.
Turn the tables. Never say that the official story is a lie. Show them that it’s physically impossible and you have freed them to join their own dots. Try it, it really works!
disagree Reply:
August 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 pm
S: “You’ll find that you can not prove 9/11 was an inside job in a simple way in a few sentences.”
R: I completely disagree. 9-11 can be summed up in one sentence: THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11.
lyncher Reply:
August 25th, 2009 at 10:52 am
I agree 1000% with you, there were NOT airplanes on 9/11/2001
Christine Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
In the olden days, the Israelites changed their books and changed Gods Laws. When a Prophet would come to chastise them they would not oppose them directly. They would ridicule the Prophets and work so that the masses would think them to be CRAZY.
These people learned a long time ago that the greatest weapon against the truth is to make the truth teller look CRAZY. Once the masses think the messenger is crazy they will associate ALL THAT HE SPEAKS with being a lunatic.
The present day Israelites are at it again……… TEL AVIV has entire units working to “muddy the waters” .
Why ???? because the truth points to ISRAEL.
Hrlei Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
The truth of 9/11 points to ISRAELI involvement.
Dual citizen Israeli-Americans INSIDE our government orchestrated 9/11 so we would fight all over the middle East on behalf of Israel.
Our soldiers shed blood and we spend all our treasure to accomplish Israeli Goals.
BY DECEPTION THEY DO WAR !!
August 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
BTW: Look at the post time of my above comment. Spooky….. but that’s just a coincidence right?
August 24th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Evangelical Christians love the Zionists and hate the Muslims.
Evangelical Christianity has been misled by Zionist mis-interpretations of the Bible and Prophecies.
Evangelicals, like FOX News, can only see evil in Islam.
Evangelicals work hard to suppress the truth of 9/11.
Evangelicals will do all they can to propagate the hate for Muslims.
Muslims are the greatest threat to the NWO and the Evangelicals know it.
Evangelicals work for the Antichrist while thinking they are doing Gods’ work.
They will soon learn that many of their core beliefs were sabotaged by Zionism infiltration in the 1940’s.
There is no rapture and modern day Israel is not blessed or in any way holy.
August 24th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
inside job all the way , americans are soooo stupid
August 24th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I wish it were true that there were no commercial planes on 9/11. Unfortunately, when you know someone who was on one of the planes that never came home, it takes away from that argument. A close family friend of my boss was the co-pilot on one of the planes that hit the trade center. I still believe that something fishy happened w/ 9/11 and that it was most likely an inside job, but I do believe that real planes were crashed into those buildings.
hipo Reply:
August 24th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Sadly many people never come home but that simple fact means nothing, good luck with your
healing.