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  • A Few Thoughts on the Coup in Honduras

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    Jeremy Scahill
    Rebel Reports
    June 30, 2009

    There is a lot of great analysis circulating on the military coup against Manuel Zelaya in Honduras. I do not see a need to re-invent the wheel. (See here here here and here). However, a few key things jump out at me. First, we know that the coup was led by Gen. Romeo Vasquez, a graduate of the US Army School of the Americas. As we know very well from history, these “graduates” maintain ties to the US military as they climb the military career ladders in their respective countries. That is a major reason why the US trains these individuals.

    Secondly, the US has a fairly significant military presence in Honduras. Joint Task Force-Bravo is located at Soto Cano Air Base, Honduras. The base is home to some 550 US military personnel and more than 650 US and Honduran civilians:

    They work in six different areas including the Joint Staff, Air Force Forces (612th Air Base Squadron), Army Forces, Joint Security Forces and the Medical Element. 1st Battalion, 228th Aviation Regiment, a US Army South asset, is a tenant unit also based at Soto Cano. The J-Staff provides command and control for JTF-B.

    The New York Times reports that “The unit focuses on training Honduran military forces, counternarcotics operations, search and rescue, and disaster relief missions throughout Central America.”

    Significantly, according to GlobalSecurity, “Soto Cano is a Honduran military installation and home of the Honduran Air Force.”

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    This connection to the Air Force is particularly significant given this report in NarcoNews:

    The head of the Air Force, Gen. Luis Javier Prince Suazo, studied in the School of the Americas in 1996.  The Air Force has been a central protagonist in the Honduran crisis.  When the military refused to distribute the ballot boxes for the opinion poll, the ballot boxes were stored on an Air Force base until citizens accompanied by Zelaya rescued them.  Zelaya reports that after soldiers kidnapped him, they took him to an Air Force base, where he was put on a plane and sent to Costa Rica.

    It is impossible to imagine that the US was not aware that the coup was in the works. In fact, this was basically confirmed by The New York Times in Monday’s paper:

    As the crisis escalated, American officials began in the last few days to talk with Honduran government and military officials in an effort to head off a possible coup. A senior administration official, who briefed reporters on the condition of anonymity, said the military broke off those discussions on Sunday.

    While the US has issued heavily-qualified statements critical of the coup—in the aftermath of the events in Honduras—the US could have flexed its tremendous economic muscle before the coup and told the military coup plotters to stand down. The US ties to the Honduran military and political establishment run far too deep for all of this to have gone down without at least tacit support or the turning of a blind eye by some US political or military official(s).

    Here are some facts to consider: the US is the top trading partner for Honduras. The coup plotters/supporters in the Honduran Congress are supporters of the “free trade agreements” Washington has imposed on the region. The coup leaders view their actions, in part, as a rejection of Hugo Chavez’s influence in Honduras and with Zelaya and an embrace of the United States and Washington’s “vision” for the region. Obama and the US military could likely have halted this coup with a simple series of phone calls. For an interesting take on all of this, make sure to check out Nikolas Kozloff’s piece on Counterpunch, where he writes:

    In November, Zelaya hailed Obama’s election in the U.S. as “a hope for the world,” but just two months later tensions began to emerge.  In an audacious letter sent personally to Obama, Zelaya accused the U.S. of “interventionism” and called on the new administration in Washington to respect the principle of non-interference in the political affairs of other nations.

    Here are some independent news sources on this story:

    School of the Americas Watch

    NarcoNews

    Eva Golinger’s Postcards from the Revolution

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    70 Responses to “A Few Thoughts on the Coup in Honduras”

    1. LRS Says:

      This WAS NOT A COUP……. it was ok’ed by the high court of Honduras, The Pres. was trying to go against the thier Constitution and he was removed…..as it should be. maybe we should follow thier lead….?

      Honduran national Reply:

      Of course this was a coup. The Constitution and Honduran laws have a procedure for impeachment. The Honduran President was removed by force in violation of the Constitution the ousters claim to be defending. This double talk is like saying you condemn the coup when in fact you support it; and knew it was on the way and did nothing to prevent it.

      The “it was not a coup” campaign comes from the usual NWO operatives.

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      Belinda Reply:

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      However that being said….Ron Paul For President…a true American Statesman.

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      Dogfood Reply:

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      LRS Reply:

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      humans vs illuminati Reply:

      scientifically proven that rasism is ignorance ..POWER TO THE PEOPLE NOW!!!!!!

      mike Reply:

      wow really then that explains all the problems we have with reverse racism….blacks are ignorant lmfao!!!oh thats rite i forgot only white people are racist lmfao!!!

      dungeon_master89@hotmail.com Reply:

      SHAME ON YOU CRANKY. Just what we need, more idiots associating Ron Paul with racism… What are you, psy-ops or just ignorant?

      I also echo the sentiment that WE THE PEOPLE are well within our RIGHTS to remove our elected officials if they should violate the Constitution. What’s the hold up?

      “Plead the 5th cause you can’t plead the 1st”

      Liam Reply:

      CRANKY is just an idiot, dont credit him as a establishment shill, he is most likely a white trash glenn beck worshiping looser.

      Madmagic Reply:

      To hell with that just give me right power!

      Canuck7 Reply:

      White Power. Are you a detergent salesman ?!

      American Culture Power if you have a brain. White Power if you don’t.

      jimbo Reply:

      america doesnt have any culture, our culture is mcdonalds and walmart

      Max Reply:

      Cranky,
      As a US Army veteran, born and raised in Texas, who voted for Ron Paul for President in 1988, let me just say “Go fuck yourself you shit-sucking cracker”. You are an embarrassment to Ron Paul and white people in general.

      Max

      Dr. Conservative Reply:

      Would impeachment work right now in the US? No, it wouldn’t. There aren’t enough people in either house to demand it or push it through.

      Sometimes a physical removal from office is the necessary action to bring about immediate results, so the country can regroup and get back on course. Call it a coup, an uprising, whatever you like. The people were protecting themselves from this Obama like individual in the Honduras.

      At least they acted. We just talk a good show. Sure looks great on paper or in print on forums.

      Honduran national Reply:

      Mostly all systems around the world are set to favor the elite. If it suits the elite, impeachment will work in the US anytime. Should Obama go against the agenda of his handlers, he will can certainly be impeached for passing a red light.

      The solution is to empower voters as much as possible. For example, in the State of California the governor’s mandate can be revoked by means of a referendum. In Venezuela this also referendum also exists. In Bolivia a 60% of the vote is necessary. The President of Honduras has proposed future presidents, congressmen, district attorneys, supreme justices be subjected to this referendum. Since we know legislators worldwide are sell outs to the elites, this would be against their agenda. In fact anything that empowers voters is against them.

      The Honduran elites own petroleum based power generation. Power companies are parasites that feed on 20% of the annual budget. Leonine clauses established by the sell out Congress have granted these companies huge benefits and prices at the expense of the people. The first referendum to be carried out would be to cancel these contracts. That would certainly hurt the elite oligarchy. Another referendum would approve the contracts for the construction of hydroelectric plants Congress refuses to approve.

      In the US this could have been used to pull from Iraq or to stop the bailouts. Any highly unpopular measure would be hard to implement. I am not proposing a change in the US Constitution, I know this is extremely hard to accomplish; and it may be used to strip the 1st 2nd or 10th amendments.

      You can be 99.99% sure, that coups are vast conspiracies everywhere. Uprisings, need popular support and are repressed. Coups and uprisings are not the same. We had a coup in Honduras on Sunday. An uprising has followed, demanding respect to the Constitution.

      The ousters have defiled the Constitution on the excuse of defending it against an imaginary hypothetical future threat. By thy fruits ye shall be known.

      The current coup is weak. In the following days we shall see if the coup stands. Mel is anti NWO. Obama is full NWO.

      I Come From Planet Poptart Reply:

      Sir, “coup”s don’t exist.

      nobleUK Reply:

      coup coup its those pidgeons from dealey plaza again lol they sure do get around

      el nino Reply:

      you piece of DUMBness piss off here

      Bad Slave Reply:

      Honduras is where the CIA trained and equipped the Contras. Do you remember the death squads in Guatemala and El Salvador in the 1980s? The CIA has controlled Central America for decades.

      olnnamvet Reply:

      Yes and the picture of the soldier with a american M16 in his hands,who is shitten who here,this is CIA/NSA ALL THE WAY.

      Liam Reply:

      Bull Shit!
      He went against anglo-american policy
      and had dialouges with Chavez.
      That alone would be enough for Washington to
      do an instant replay of 1970´s-80´s central americam policy,
      crush democracy and install right wing murderers!
      I guess there is no coup in Iran either?
      Or in Georgia, Serbia or Ukraine?

    2. LRS Says:

      The U.S. news media is lying about this hole story, it’s so wild how when your in a diffrent country the real truth comes out. Am in Africa and thats what paper says here.

      I Come From Planet Poptart Reply:

      Sir, Africa doesn’t exist. WTF are you talking about?

      LRS Reply:

      OK Kenya…

    3. Bill W Says:

      Look at the picture of the soldier, there is no magazine in that rifle.

      I Come From Planet Poptart Reply:

      “You haven’t even taken the safety off yet, rookie”

      Cap'n JJ From Planet Ghetto Reply:

      Of course not… he keeps the magazine inside his shirt.

      Its got all those pics of nude American women in it.

    4. Lonestarstate138 Says:

      i couldnt agree with you more LRS ur spot on. i mean how could we not know what was going on, maybe cux our noses are up so many other countries butts we dont know which way is up. its going to get really hairy here soon. i hope we make it through this

      "ren Reply:

      i agree

    5. Mr.Geltschmidt Says:

      ya He is American too he is on guard duty :)

      j a Reply:

      lets reconsider this;
      I could se the global elite wanting honduras to become another venezuela.
      But i could also see how the local elite dont want that because they like money and theyre pretty well off.
      Could the local elite in honduras have rebelled against the global elite?
      That could be a real good thing. Who knows. It could be a beginning.

    6. Free World Says:

      Since when do you remove a president democratically elected for running a consultation of the citizen? These general are working for the US, period.

      LRS Reply:

      You do know that even in the U.S. the military can arrest the Pres. if he try’s to go against the Constitution?

      Dr. Conservative Reply:

      Yes. Their primary oath is to protect and defend the US Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Following Buckwheats orders is second to that.

      Cap'n JJ From Planet Ghetto Reply:

      WELL HELLOOOO TRUCKEE!!!

      Then what are they waiting for, an engraved

      invitation from George Washington?!

      You boys march right in there and

      ARREST THAT CRIMINAL!

    7. Freedom!!! Says:

      Re: LRS

      Absolutely! Not only can they do it they have the obligation to!

      http://www.redpillvsbluepill.weebly.com

    8. justncredible Says:

      Alot of hardcore leftist/marxist crap on ifowars lately. This article is one.

      tarpley is another, what a tool that jerk is…

      and then AJ, puts on a great man like Lew Rockwell with scum like cindy chithahn….

      maybe alex is a tool to….

      funbags Reply:

      Ask Lew about the planes on 9-11?

    9. whaaaa Says:

      He should have just staged a false flag attack which would then delay indefinately any voting or elections so that he could stay in office? That is what Gulianni did in NYC on the morning of 9/11. Tuesday 9/11 was election day and would have had Guilianni removed from office. “Luckily” 9/11 left him in office so he could oversee and order the destruction of all the building material from ground zero before any testing could be done. He ordered the confiscation and arrests of anyone taking pictures or film of the debris destruction.

    10. Tyler Says:

      From what I know of this, the referendum that Mel was trying to push was a referendum to change the Constitution to allow him to run for more than one term in office. His term would have ended in 2010. From what I have been told by people more knowledgable on Constitutional matters than I, there are three parts of the constitution that cannot be changed, everything else is fair game. Presdential term limits are said to be in one of those three sections. Since the Congress wasn’t willing to print ballots for this referendum, Mel got Hugo to print them in Venezuela instead. Those ballots were shipped in and the military refused to distribute those ballots. Mel fired the top military commander, Vásquez Velásquez, and the Supreme Court ordered Mel to reinstate him. Mel refused, got a mob to enter the military facility where Hugo’s ballots were being kept, and had his supporters start distributing them. The Supreme Court ruled this referendum unconstitutional, and Mel went through with it anyway. It was THEN that the military was sent in to arrest the President. It was said that Mel had a choice: either accept exile, or face the courts and possible imprisonment for violating the Constitution. Mel’s currently in Costa Rica, and he denies he was given such an ultimatum.

      Are we to believe that this “coup” is an effort to wrest control of the country from a freedom loving President? Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and Hillary Clinton all would have us believe such things.

    11. Kensai Says:

      Of rugged steel his soul was made…he who forged the Vile blade…Plato

      The blade itself incites to violence….Tacitus

      I curse them and their ancestors as well as their great ancestors and their followers,slaves,pets,hangers on ect.

      We are approaching the true “end game” pardon the punt.
      but we will see for the last time the ferocious behavior of the human

      I call upon all who will take my challenge!!

      the time for diplomacy and empty words are over…..

      Every day Imagine yourself leaping towards the massive crowds of your enemies being carried away.
      Imagine being hit by thousands of arrows.
      Imagine being ripped apart by your enemies swords,spears,Naginatas(Large curved blade on a stick).

      Imagine this every single day…….only then will you embrace your true potential…..Musashi Miamoto:::Book of the five rings.

      It is time to embrace the old ways

      Immortality is not a myth……….it is yours for the taking:

      From your brothers in the frozen north we salute you::::good luck on the coming battlefields:::::may Odin guide your weapons.

      Cap'n JJ From Planet Ghetto Reply:

      “Folks who write on bathroom walls

      roll their turds in little balls.

      Then they who read their words of wit

      eat those little balls of shit.”

      …Shakespeare

    12. FUCK BRITISH EMPIRE Says:

      USA VS british maybe can fix this nwo shit

    13. Afterthought Says:

      When will Alex dump the fascist fellow travelers of his movement a la William F Buckley at the dawn of the resurgence of Modern Conservatism?

      Is Alex even capable of such a subtle thought?

    14. Free World Says:

      LRS Reply:
      June 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

      You do know that even in the U.S. the military can arrest the Pres. if he try’s to go against the Constitution?

      I wonder what they are waiting for?

      Dr. Conservative Reply:

      Assurance that they won’t face a court martial. It has to come from pretty high up in the armed services. Like Joint Chiefs level.

    15. Madmagic Says:

      So basically they are taking over the world with puppet dictators.

    16. marco belanger Says:

      Its a funny coincedence that Clinton was in honduras just a few weeks before the coup…

      Lets not forvget that honduras is the central american base for the american millitary in the region as well as an intelligence hub…no way she didnt know…she probably went to give them her clandestine approval…

      Back in the US back in the US back in the USSR…..
      you dont know how lucky you are boy…

    17. marco belanger Says:

      btw couldnt that white power moron be banned…id sign the petition…

      Read Wilhelm Reich…Xenopohia is rooted in sexual frustration…mommy took the titty away too fast…Daddy was thirsty…

      symple19 Reply:

      LOL!!!!

    18. Bubba Joe Johnson Says:

      Our Great Leader said today that the “coup” is against the Honduran constitution. How is he now an expert on the Honduran constitution? He doesn’t even understand the U.S. Constitution. The 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments come to my mind and his twisted “interpretations” of those come to mind. He’s obviously caved to the insults of Chavez. Just leave Honduras to its own devices. Don’t interfere. It is not our business as Americans to stick ourselves into their internal difficulties. Ron Paul and Michelle Bachman, the voices of reason in our sad congress.

      Chavez? The ugly toad will eventually be assasinated, just like those other toadies before him in central and southern america. People long to be free. But when you free just some of the people, the others revolt.

      Cap'n JJ From Planet Ghetto Reply:

      Hell yeah

      Buckwheat can’t even repeat the oath of office correctly

      without a teleprompter.

      Sort of like the idiot cowboy

      who couldn’t pour piss out of a boot

      even though the directions were written on the heel.

    19. olivia drab Says:

      coup or not, the big picture here is the NAU (north american union.)

      the powers that be (TPTB) want it, and the pawns are moving.

      check

      it’s a vicious game.

      check

      you gotta keep on it.

      check

      or else…

      CHECKMATE.

    20. voznesenskiy Says:

      I don’t understund this country. It is all absurd.

    21. "Redneck" Lady Says:

      Can we have one too? At least some of the military are still patriots.

    22. Digital Dickweeds Kick MSM Azz Says:

      Seems like what some of you might call a “beta test”. *gasp* Military officers standing up for Constitutional law in defiance of a would-be tyrannical president-dictator in Honduras? Say it ain’t so! Even as the U.S. govt sinks further into Socio-Fascism and inevitable despotism.

    23. Dogfood Says:

      You = FAIL

    24. Old Soldier Says:

      I know from personal experience that Central and South America soldiers are taught in the School of Americas to respect and follow theer countries established law. Does not always work when people get power they never had, a common human fault.

      What is surprising is that the Army did what the court and congress said to do and not the President which is a new twist in these countries.

      The first legal document of the USA the Declaration of Independence (DI) sets a president for us to remove a corrupt or tyrannical government when and if the people get fed up enough. Like the DI said most of the time humans wait hoping things will correct themselves but there comes a time that they have to act!

      I think Honduras acted before waiting to long.

      How about us here in the USA how long will we wait?

    25. dextred1 Says:

      Most of you are a bunch of fucking idiots. You think that every single goverment is part of the new world order. If that was true why have they not already taken over. You think everyone on t.v. is nwo. The thing about this whole thing is that dude is standing with chu chu chavez(such a fat ass) and you act like old chavee is a good guy standing against nwo. Get a grip the dictator/tyrant/peice of shit is evil. We should take him down, refuse to buy his oil and dis-engage our trade with dictators like him. Zelaya is a bad dude trying to force his way into kingship in a country the typically only has a executive serve for one term. He tried to violate the constitution of the nation he was leading and was demanded out by the supreme court of honduras. I only wish we would bounce these idiots in office now, far chance but always wishing.

    26. VAL CARDWELL Says:

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    27. VAL CARDWELL Says:

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    28. VAL CARDWELL Says:

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      OF COURSE THERE IS GLOBAL WARMING. NEARLY ALL OF IT CAUSED BY THE RICH AND WELL-OFF WITH EXCESSIVE USE OF CARS, ETC, AND AMERICA AS USUAL THE MAIN OFFENDER, USING MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE OIL. ELECTRICITY, ETC. ALSO, WHO THE HELL KNOWS THE EFFECT OF ALL THESE SATALLITES IN SPACE? THEY MUST EFFECT THE OZONE-LAYER IN A BIG WAY. IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES THE BILDERBERGS HAD A MEETING ABOUT THIS “PROBLEM” AND DECIDED TO DENY ANY SUCH PROBLEM—– WHICH THEY DID——UNTIL SUCH TIMES AS IT BECAME IMPOSSIBLE TO DENY! THEY DECIDED TO LEAD THE “FIGHT” AGAINST THIS! WELL, THAT’S WHAT IS HAPPENING. THEY DREW UP PLANS FOR TAXES ON WORKING-CLASS AND POORER PEOPLE IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES. THEY, MUST CARRY THE CAN, FOR THE WEST’S GREED. THIS IS THE REALITY. THOSE WHO STUDY POLITICS AND FOLLOW EVENTS WILL REMEMBER JUST HOW RECENTLY THE LIKES OF GEORGE BUSH, AND HIS NEO-CON CLIQUE AGREED THERE WAS GLOBAL-WARMING——-HE WAS GIVEN THE NOD BY THE YANKEE-LED WTO—-”TIME TO CHANGE MODE” WAS THE MESSAGE. TIME TO ADMIT IT AND MAKE HUGE MONEY, WHILE THEY MAKE THE WORLD’S RAIN-FORESTS DISAPPEAR, AND CARBON TAXES MAKE POOR COUNTRIES EVEN MORE DESTITUTE—-ONLY THE POOR WILL SUFFER, AND NOTHING WILL BE DONE TO CONTROL THE WORSENING OF GLOBAL-WARMING. THIS WAS ALL PLANNED IN THE EARLY 1980′S. MEANWHILE, GLOBAL TURMOIL GETS WORSE, AND THE BILDERBERG/NEO-CONS COIN IN THE MONEY! THIS WAS EVER THEIR M. O.

    33. VAL CARDWELL Says:

      WELL, PRESIDENT AHMADINEJAD MIGHT HAVE ASKED FOR A NEW WORLD ORDER BUT IT CERTAINLY WASN’T THE ” NEW AMERICAN CENTURY” . THE NWO HE WAS THINKING OF WAS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF STOPPING THE ZIONIST/YANKEE THREATS OF BOMBING AND PUTTING A STOP TO SPYING AND STIRRING UP THE REACTIONARY ELEMENT AMONG THE WELL-OFF, WHO DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE POOR IN THE COUNTRYSIDE—–IN SHORT, THE GREEDY. THERE ISN’T MUCH ” NEW AMERICAN CENTUARY” ABOUT IRAN AND IT’S LEADERS! IN CASE YOU WERE UNAWARE, MUSLEM LAW FORBIDS GAMBLING—-IN ANY FORM—-THAT’S WHY THEY DONT HAVE STOCKS AND SHARES, EVEN THEIR BANKS DON’T GIVE INTEREST——-HARDLY THE MODEL NWO/ BILBERBERG MEMBERS, EH?

    34. deffzp Says:

      Зачем писать большими буквами – это плохой тон.