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A Philosophical Argument against Forced Vaccination
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Infowars
July 16, 2009
Note: This essay deals only with the philosophical argument against forced vaccination by the state.
A few years ago I entered into a discussion with a close friend regarding vaccination. This person stated that their child was not up to date with state recommended vaccinations and was debating internally whether or not she felt they were necessary. Without being asked my opinion, my reaction was quite strong in favor of vaccination and I made common claims that vaccinations were for the ‘common social good’ and that we all had to ‘do our part for society.’ Days later I thought back on the encounter and was surprised at how undiplomatically I pursued this argument. I had never researched vaccines, the potential health benefits or risks, or sought information from a variety of sources as one would commonly do before making an argument on any important subject. Regardless of our differing opinions I was only able to bring to the discussion force to try to convince her of my opinion – I offered no information, cited no facts or statistics in my debate – the apparent ‘will of the people’ which my ignorance represented was argument enough. Was this enough to base a decision on concerning the health and well-being of a child?
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In 2006 I found out that I was going to be a father. A close friend of mine suggested I do some research on vaccines and sent me information from a variety of sources. At the time I was sure vaccination was the route to go, despite the fact I still had no solid information, facts or research to base my opinion on – only the widely accepted idea that vaccines were responsible for ridding western society from small pox, polio as well as many other diseases and that any child without his shots was a threat to the health of all of us and furthermore that the parent was being irresponsible. These ideas were backed up by the media and rest of society. But I became utterly consumed with the topic, buying many books, watching documentaries, listening to lectures, looking at University studies and reading articles from many countries. It is safe to say I spent hundreds of hours on the subject looking at information from a vast array of sources – pro & con vaccine.
Needless to say when I really dove into the subject, I was alarmed at the amount of conventional medical history and government statistics that showed both the ineffectiveness and oftentimes outright harm that vaccinations could cause. As a member of society that deemed all children without shots as somehow a threat to its well being, and would bar them from the school yard as well as brand any parent who did not agree with them a heretic, I’d never been offered contrary information about the effectiveness of shots by primary education or the media who advocate them. What about the other side? Did I not deserve the best information with which to make an informed decision by?
In my basic understanding from school or mainstream media such as TV, I’d been taught about the miracle findings of Jonas Salk & Albert Sabin with their polio ‘cures’ – but had I been taught about SV-40? No. SV-40 is the 40th simian virus which was discovered in the monkey kidneys used to manufacture the polio vaccine (yes most vaccines are from monkey, chicken or bovine organs or tissue). For a period of years and debatably decades until the 1990’s, polio vaccines were administered by law (and thereby force) that at the time unknowingly contained SV-40 to millions of people. SV-40 undoubtedly causes cancer in many animals, and many controversial studies have shown it does the same in humans. Was I given this information? No. Was I taught about contraindications? No. Contraindications are health concerns such as family history of autoimmune or neurological disorders, allergies that conflict with vaccines and can cause minor or major reactions. With a family history of severe autoimmune disorders and an undiagnosed neurological episode of my own as a teenager this information could be critical to me. Why was I not taught to protect myself or to research to find my own opinion at least? It should be noted that more research is needed to discover why these contraindications cause such severe health problems – the simple fact is that as much as doctors know, they do not know everything and more research is needed. Again this essay is not dealing with medical arguments against vaccination – I am raising such issues to show that the medical community is by no means all-knowing and that common means by which we receive information rarely show us enough to make an informed decision. These decisions require much research and careful thought if they are to be made well. The medical opinions and advances of one generation that are hailed as miracles are always surely to be laughed at by the next. Common use of asbestos and lead – both deemed safe by the medical community at the time by the prestigious Melon Institute, or Lipitor and Vioxx in recent years are proof of this. As much as they do not wish to believe – those who put their faith into science alone and not the full scope of reason are using just that – faith – which those same scientists may consider absent of reason. Science is ever changing and evolving and we should consider this when making important decisions about our health – especially if these ‘decisions’ are imposed by law, and thereby force.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
It is quite acceptable for a woman to have an abortion in America and while I recognize this subject is taboo and am not going to make an argument for or against abortion I’m going to use it to make a point. If that makes you uncomfortable, ask yourself why and question your beliefs (on either side). It is common belief that a woman has a right to an abortion because the child is ‘her body.’ It would be entirely unacceptable for a woman to be kept from an abortion or forced into one because this would be an infringement on her right to choose for her own body. Yet that same woman must by law submit her body and her child’s body to an ever increasing list of vaccinations that can cause serious short and long term health risks or in rare cases death. Given this conflict presented by current laws does the woman have an absolute right to decide what’s best for her body? No she does not. This shows the ineptness and unprincipled tinkering of our lawmakers and the often arbitrary thinking of the collective as well. Whether you believe in abortion or oppose it, believe in vaccination or oppose it, it is quite obvious that there is not by law a clear definition of the right of the individual to ownership of his or her body. Lease is a better word, granted by the state. And since children are not responsible for themselves, it could be said their bodies are leased to parents by the state as well with a strict set of guidelines to be followed, punishable by force. By what right do they claim this ownership?
The collective also seems quite willing to support its beliefs even if on the sole basis that vaccination is in certain cases required by law. It does not seem to question the laws or the body imposing these laws and its role or effectiveness (or lack thereof). Are we to believe the same government that has broken its own constitutional laws with aggressive wars on false pretenses is without error in regards to our health? Even the most ardent war supporters would admit Rumsfeld’s blunders in this area. Should we submit our ability to reason to a government that has plunged our nation into 60 billion dollars in debt with total unfunded obligations? Can a government capable of such an economic failure be without error in the case of vaccinations? Are we to believe these laws are not merely to benefit the products of the vaccine makers who spend millions lobbying in Washington; products that are sometimes mandatory and through government enabled monopoly are often unimproved for decades as in the case of DPT? Are we to believe a group of bureaucrats with a history of failures are without fault in determining 100% what is best for our bodies, regardless of how just the laws are? Is this a system to rest our faith and the health of our children on?
No well researched, honest nurse, doctor, or even bureaucrat would deny the risk involved in vaccinations especially since the Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund has awarded over a billion dollars to families of children harmed by vaccinations since it was started in 1988. In light of this and the principles of liberty this nation was founded on, we should be free to decline and make decisions as we see fit without having to navigate difficult unjust laws. Instead we are forced to hand responsibility over to our doctors and government who don’t have to live with the consequences or raise disabled children. Their only answer is to hand us money as an apology for their bad policy, as if that is adequate compensation for any physical or mental injuries as well as the submission of our bodies, our minds ability to reason, and our rights as free individuals.
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July 16th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
As a healthcare provider, I won’t give em
censored31 Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Go and check out ‘tolerance lost’
DVD of Dr. MD Moulden
http://censored31.skynetblogs.be
Bohemian Rove Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Which comes first- the vaccinations or the bank holiday closures? anybody know?
Newspeak Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Hey, the NCCC (National Civilian Community Core (Obama volunteers) will probably be helping with the mandatory vaccinations and helping old ladies get on the buses, trucks, and trains to Camp FEMA.
If you didn’t know, the GIVE Act changed it’s name at the last minute and was passed:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/show
Stay awake people!
Keep your powder dry, read the Declaration of Independence, and rotate your food storage!
Newspeak Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Check out SEC. 1506. TRAINING.
(2) in subsection (b)(1), by inserting before the period at the end the following: ‘, including a focus on energy conservation, environmental stewardship or conservation, infrastructure improvement, urban and rural development, or disaster preparedness needs, as appropriate’;
general Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Hey alex almost made it through the day without saying “Michael Jackson” Hey alex, if your gonna talk about jackson everyday then I am going to stop listenting to your B.S. and take a year break from your show.
If the gov’t scum can mandate a fluid injection then why not several injections, why not chip injections. Why not live virus injections, why not chemical injections? why not hell fire missle injections.
uchikoma Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 8:46 am
^ General – You are an idiot
WAKE UP! Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:18 am
The GIVE act is old news. Ive been trying to warn people of this bill and even had one old man call me crazy and say “our government would not do that” Im sure he has woken up by now. It was passed in April during all the media hype about AIG bonus’- I called both Senators and asked the secretaries to have them vote no on it- of course no one new what the bill was and said they would give them the message (right). I believe it starts in October this year. Me nor my children are not going to be mandated into servitude. If I wanted to volunteer I would have joined the recruiters that were sent to nab us in high school. Im not down with educated hate.
RYE BREW Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:10 am
HEY GENERAL:
YOU’RE THE f---ING IDIOT WHO KEEPS BRINGING UP MICHAEL JACKSON
Gary Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Late August or Early September, according to this:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/ba.....ember.html
So, are you thinking the banksters plan to be safely in their bunkers or something?
BLACK POPE Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
im the black pope and im PURE EVIL, I LOVE WORSHIPPING MY MASTER SATAN, my biotch the white pope and i have some fresh sacrifices to our goat head, then get our evil deeds on, long live the NEW WORLD ORDER!
be sure to get your vaccine poison slaves, it will soften you up and make you fresh for the global sacrifice comin your way!
(editors note: only turning to God will ensure your victory in this life and the next)
vatican owns you Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:41 am
re: the whore of babylon…cant wait to meet you.
Captain Trips Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Hey Gary, How have you been?
I wonder about articles like this (the article you provided in your link) and think, for the most part, they do more harm then good. It’s akin to Steve Quayle’s never ending fear mongering predictions. Eventually you’re going to hit the bullseye. How long has Infowars been on the “We’re going to attack Iran any day now” bandwagon? It has be at least four or five years worth of Iran fear mongering. Every month Infowars posts a few articles on Iran being imminently attacked. Eventually Iran will be attacked and then Alex Jones and others like him will scream at the top of their lungs that they predicted the attack…and forget about reminding the people that they predicted the attack at least once a month for the past five years. Even a blind man gets lucky once in a while.
Why all the articles on a supposed forced Swine Flu vaccination? Right now there must be five or six articles about it right now on Infowars. There won’t be any forced vaccinations, at least not on a public level. There will be no mandatory vaccinations in the U.S. (most likely, anything can happen) but there very well could be a silent coup of sorts where they begin manipulating parents through fear to get their children vaccinated for the Swine Flu.
I’ve been trying to educate people here about a method of vaccination called shedding. Back in the early 50’s the U.S. vaccinated over 98 million Americans for Polio and that left around two-thirds of the American population un-vaccinated. This vaccination was contaminated with SV-40 and started the cancer epidemic that has swept across our nation. The really clever thing about the Polio vaccination used on the American people in the early to mid fifties is that there was no need to vaccinate the whole population. The vaccine was designed to shed (meaning anyone who came into contact with someone who was vaccinated would pick up the vaccine through human contact) so that they only had to vaccinate a third of the population and shedding would take care of the rest of the people.
If they could fully inoculate/vaccinate the entire population through shedding back in the fifties what makes people think they need to make vaccinations mandatory or try and force them on people? As long as a third of the people willingly submit to the Swine Flu vaccination then the rest of us will get it also. It seems like shedding was the best idea these maniacs have come up with in order to force vaccinate the population without our knowing about it.
Unconquered Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
You can bet your last worthless dollar that the bankstas are making preparations. Why do you think Gov’t Sachs is doling out the bonuses like candy? But I’m not sure a bank holiday is the plan. It could look like another GM/Chrysler debacle if he makes an overt move to shut banks down for a “holiday”. At the rate this guv is going, I think a total collapse of the dollar is coming and you aren’t going to need a bank holiday. Whatever the outcome, be prepared.
I happened to catch this lecture from Michael Ruppert which IMHO gives some pretty good ammunition to prepare yourself and your family for what is coming. The most striking comment I got from it was he’s no longer interested in saving the country. His country no longer exists. Its going to come down to everyone being able to save themselves and those around them. You know, like when flight attendants tell you to secure the face mask on your face first before helping others. If you are in order, you can help those around you. Neighbor helping neighbor which is what happened during the depression and what my parents did growing up during WWII. I guess I’m kind of that mind set now. Gives new meaning to “think global, act local”. I always think about the people in Katrina who had no idea what to do and left it up to Fema to help them. That’s a perfect example of what happens when people are not self reliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv5XLpFHUeM
FreedomLover Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I’m going to print this and send to my son & expectant wife. In my circle of acquaintances is an autistic child who I’ve known all his life. He was fine until after the vaccines. Every time I’ve had a flu shot, I got the flu. Never again.
71 Days to Prepare Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I’ve never had a flu shot and have only been sick with the flu once in the last seven years.
NOSHOTFORME Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
I have never had a flu shot, nor will I. Everyone at my work gets sick within a month of getting one. I haven’t been sick 6 years thanks to my vitamins and exercise. lets get together and inform people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no needle for me either Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I too have never had the flu shot and will not start now. Yes I do get sick every now and then from the germss my son brings home from school. But like you I excercise and personally have gove vegetarian about 11 months ago. I know it’s hard to stay away from high fructose corn syrup and such, but I can say right now I feel better(in spite of all my aches and pains) than I did almost a year ago.
People one of the biggest favors you can do to improve your health is to GET OFF MEAT!! Espically red meat and pork. I know. Been there done that.
general Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:04 am
well, be prepared to lose your job if you don’t get all of the gov’t injections since they have the medical database they will know who has been a good boy and got the shot. I am sure they will have a mandate that “no shotty no worky.” So put your big boy pants on and then pull them down for your loving injections from the scum who brought you wars, taxes and inflation.
jerdy Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:17 am
It is so odd. Not one flu vaccine for me, I have never had the flu. I think I will keep the pattern going.
martin Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
IF I HAD a cafe and asked the government to give me immunity from prosecution if my food POISONED anybody and they died, do you think the government would say sure. IF i said can you order everybody to come to my cafe and eat my burgers and jail them if they dont ? WHAT THEN.. IF the FDA or WHO mandate compulsory vaccines knowing there is risks and anybody dies THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.. just like the cafe owner , if he suspects his meat might give you food poisoning hes liable. THE BIG PHARMA companys are in the same boat theyre businessmen and its their risk. if i thought the cafe owner had dodgy food i can stay away, just as i would with vaccines
FreedomLover Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
When you are a Satanic POS, YOU are god. You get to make the rules and YOU decide who lives and who dies. Sure, we can and probably will stand up and say “NO, you’re NOT doing this to me.” Just before they taser us and put the needle in before loading us on the buses at gunpoint. We’re not dealing with rational or compassionate people here. We’re dealing with satanist scum who have not one atom of kindness or mercy anywhere in their sick brains. And rather than take their needle, I’ll probably die unless some macho guy with a machine gun (God bless him!) comes to my aid – cuz I HAVE no weapons.
But realistically, if we don’t help each other out, and don’t call on the REAL God, then we’re toast. Because the govt sure isn’t going to act any differently. My friend said it was stupid to expect ungodly people to act as if they have souls. He’s right.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
And Martin, you make too much sense, my friend. Are you sure you belong on here with the rest of us wackos?
Kim American Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Thank you.
heard u dont like shots 2 much hah Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
ty patrick u have my respect, good luck
james Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Nothing but asprin for me…
j man Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Instead of complaining or worrying that this might forced vaccination might happen, I have a better solution. File this injunction were you live, and stop the forced vaccination agenda cold in its tracks!
http://tr.im/novaccine
“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man.”–Thomas Jefferson
“Tyranny cannot defeat the power of ideas.” helen keller
DavidVSgoliath Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
STAN UP NOW!! PRINT UP THE INFO THAT MOVES YOU WITH URLS NOW EVERYWHERE!!!!
DavidVSgoliath Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
STAND UP!
- And please bear with my typos, there just is no time
July 16th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Well stated. Keep up the good work.
July 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Flu Updates – http://www.poorwiseman.net
Sovereign Citizens Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
http://www.poorwiseman.net/americangenocide.html
July 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Great article, Mr. Burke. I enjoyed the thorough, and yet to the point, nature of the article. It is a great look at the philisophical aspects of forced vaccinations. That said, I don’t believe in “forced” anything.
July 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
TRESS (3RD)
July 16th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Come to think of it, the oppressors changed the name in the mass media from Swine Flu to H1N1. Insidious! Suddenly I get a chilling feeling coming over me. We are in grave danger…
DavidVSgoliath Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
H1N1 . . ….. R2D2…… H1N1 …. R2D2……..
- SCIENTIFIC PROGRAMMING
July 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
NO 1 OR GOV. OR SCHOOL IS FORCING FLU VACCINATIONS!! I’m not even going to read this article the answers are so obvious. No western gov. would force compulsory flu vaccinations on the population, the suggestion is ridiculous.
jazzmonn Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Oh yeah? Heard of Gov. Perry down thar in Texas? Did ya know he told all them thar little girls in Texas middle schools they must get their HPV shots?
PrivateSi Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Depends what you mean by ‘forcing’, I take it to mean ‘by law’ or using physical force against some1’s will. What you’re talking about is ’strong (forceful) promotion’ (Jone’s style? To be honest I doubt Perry was as hard-sell). Those that are concerned know there is no compulsory vaccination law. Such a law, if it was clandestinely quickly passed (which it would have to be) would be immediately and successfully challenged in the courts.
Desslok Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I can’t find the links, but I’m pretty sure Infowars has run a few articles showing laws passed under Bush which make mandatory mass vaccinations a power given to the federal government. If my memory serves me correctly, refusing vaccination can lead to felony criminal charges and forced quarantine.
PrivateSi Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I’ll check it out. I wouldn’t be surprised if, whilst under martial law, this is possible – hey, anything’s prob. possible under martial law. I wouldn’t trust Jones’ articles too much as they are usually hypothetical but portrayed as current fact (esp. those terrible headlines). Don’t get me wrong, I’m against national & obviously world federalisation but know Jones’ techniques. Let us know if you find the actual evidence for mandatory vaccines. It certainly isn’t in normal legislation.
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
from healthfreedomusa.org : “State Emergency Medical Powers Acts and Federal legislation, including the Patriot Acts I, II and III, BARDA and others provide for mandatory vaccination or drugging. No exemptions (religious or otherwise) are provided. Those who refuse will be classified as felons at the State level, subject to immedate incarceration and quarantine of indefinite length in jails or other facilities reserved for such “vaccine refusers.” In a frightening “Big Lie” propaganda move, those who doubt the effectiveness of unproven, uninsurable vaccines are being called ” Vaccine Resisters” and being equated to a new form of “terrorism.”
AKAEAGLE Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
all Chicago Public Schools require certain vaccination shots , so yes it is mandatory.
itspete Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
…if you want your children to go there. So no. You’re wrong.
imonyourside Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 10:16 am
easy now….some people can’t just go hide on the family farm. If you live in a large city and work full time of corse your kids will go to public school.
Ham Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Interesting. So itspete is suggesting that AKAEAGLE should just move out of Chicago. And then to where? It’s rare to find a Public school system that doesn’t force vaccines. Most do allow waivers, but then isn’t that really a measure of force? If I have to waive the ability or inability to do something, then I had no right to do it (or not to do it) to begin with.
Furthermore, if someone has to pay Private school tuition to keep their child from having to get vaccines, then how is that freedom and choice? Essentially that is no choice, for it’s the only road to take to protect your child from vaccines. And many private schools are moving towards requiring vaccines as well.
But the big point itspete missed is that we are talking about Public Schools. A school system which runs off of tax payers money. So now my money is being used to force me to do something. Nice.
You are so right itspete. Having to move to another city or state, and then another, and then another, and then really nowhere once every state requires forced vaccination, is truly the same as having the choice of eating at McDonald’s, Burger King, or not eating at those restaurants at all. It’s totally the same! How could I have been so dumb???
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:26 am
it may be mandatory because of school policy but I would bet there is no law.
AKAEAGLE Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
As long as a student enters that school, the school policies must still be followed. If not, then they will kick you out.
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I agree. however, a few intelligent, well informed questions directed at the school administration regarding said policy could reveal alternatives. additionally, if no alternatives are forthcoming or available in written policy, legal recourse or remedy( depending on the specific situation) is always an option.
July 16th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
i think i’ll print a copy of this and carry it with me
July 16th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Great article dude. Post some more philisophical articles, please.
July 16th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
“do our part for society”
The problem is a that I don’t need a society to function.
Society needs me to function.
So, it’s a question of what society does for me.
A civil servant is a brainless facilitator, like a smiling emoticon on an ATM screen. Sass-back is not it’s purpose. Much less, is it a slave driver.
July 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
ATT ALEX JONES *******
Alex:) hope your eyes catch this message!
Bigards 3rd video! Just out. Address to Obama!
http://www.dailymotion.com/rel…..ait-ob_fun
Lizard Tits Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:30 am
DAMMIT!
You people don’t put links on here unless they WORK!
s---. I was all set to laugh at Bigard, too.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
‘All hail thermal expansion!’
July 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
It makes NO SENSE in killing the submissive sleeping population that will take the vaccine.
I think that they will release SWINE FLU v2.0 which will KILL ALL THE UNVACCINATED POPULATION. This is why I would do if I would be in their place.
THINK MORE!
V Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
very intelligent, even they, may, not have thought of that. i often find myself thinking of similar things, like how we are so close to the next era of humanity they’re going for broke, letting ti all out – because – as long as the one ‘big secret’ isn’t proved they have their best chance of keeping a percieved control.
imagine if, between the infowars crowd and the Zietguist Movement, that they have th enew left-right politics covered, all IPs are logged and lead to adresses, when the virus is out or the nuke drops it could be like the second crusades, fema and the rest.
my only other comment is that it is no big deal that certain topics are “mainstream news” as the rockerfellas OWN THE ASSOCIATED PRESS – THE GLOBAL MEDIA FILTER – nothing would be there if it wasn’t to their advantage . . . and right now thier advantage is fear-based ego rants, celebrity news, gossip, anything to distract us from finding out the truth regards our very existance, our own power THIS IS THEIR FEAR BUT IT WILL ALSO BE OUR FREEDOM.
p.s anything with a commercial edge, any movement or scene, in my opinion is open to corruption. the truth will not ask you for money.
Danny Cunnington Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
The biggest bullies are inevitably the biggest cowards. They attack the weak first because they fear the consequence of attacking an equal or stronger opponent.
PrivateSi Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
I’ve thought the same thing putting myself in the shoes of a genocidal elite. Personally I think the whole anti-vax. campaign is so exaggerated and full of crap both arguments are wrong. Sometimes people have unexpected reactions, sometimes immunity is not full but for 99.9% of the population vaxes work as they should with at worst, a mild skin reaction or dizzy spell (maybe psychosematic due to fear of needles/vaccines).
Swine Flu redux Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:39 am
How do you explain the swine flu outbreak in the 70s? One person dies from swine flu then the government goes on a campaign to get everyone vaccinated, commercials and all. Over 170 people died from the vaccine and countless more had neurological damage.
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:30 am
show me the proof that vaccines are safe and effective. you can’t because there is none.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
TO THE ALEX EMERICK D K KOOKVILLE JONES KLAN! YOU ARE COMMITTING TREASON! YOU NEED TO BECOME REPONSIBLE CITIZENS!
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:41 am
how exactly is that? do you even know what treason means? here, let me help you:
1. the offense of acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
2. a violation of allegiance to one’s sovereign or to one’s state.
3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.
1. since our government has obviously been hijacked because they are not acting in the best interest of the people, and have passed legislation that is contrary to the constitution, they are treasonous. 2. we are the sovereigns and they have broken their allegiance with us. 3. their treacherous actions have demonstrated their betrayal of our trust. I am a responsible citizen. I take responsibilty for my actions unlike most politicians in congress. care to amend your opinion?
July 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Someone please explain to me why a virus which kills less people percentage wise than does the regular flu needs to have mandatory vaccinations?
for decades we have had an infuenza virus which kills more people than swine flu and it has never been necessary to mandate forced vaccinations. Why now?
Something sinister is going on and i dont like it.
bob
July 16th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Everyone, listen to this, it’s DR. REBECCA CARLEY, who has been on AJ many times, explaining to the people with her Pandemic Prevention Team what is possibly to come with the 3 shot flu vaccine. IT IS A MUST LISTEN TO!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ture=email
Also, go to her website and download the .mp3’s under HALL OF SHAME! Down load then the Cancer part 1 & 2 links and all under that! AMAZING!
Inject this! Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
She also does a live broadcast on Republic Broadcasting on Saturdays 2-4PM CST.
You can listen live if you wish at http://republicbroadcasting.org
July 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I like how you point out the inconsistency of arguments – individual rights, such as a woman’s right to choose for “her body”, vs. the submission of individual rights for the “common good.” On the surface, it makes no sense. When you understand the REAL reasons behind it all, it begins to make perfect sense in a terrifying way. At the highest levels, abortion “rights” are not about individual rights at all. It is about population control/reduction and the REAL reason will never be debated puclicly. My favorite example of the facade is the term “reproductive rights.” I have news for you: we all have, already, full “reproductive rights.” If you do not wish to reproduce, you have every right not to engage in the act of reproduction. It really is that simple.
Sophia's Dried out twat Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:34 am
This is the most astute comment possible from a prude and a spinster.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
God help USA ! Time for the Army and Police to get ready to stand for their own people and defend them vs this deadly shots.Please wakeup…please
July 16th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Here’s my philosophical argument against forced vaccination:
f--- you.
Accompany that wit hte sound of a round being chambered in my rifle and there’s all the philosophical argument I need not to vaccinate myself.
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Inject this! Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
That’s my “waiver” form!
I’m going to reach in my pocket to show them my waiver form and come out with “the bird”.
BobLeeSwagger Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Desert Eagle, black hawk, red hawk- those would be good birds to flip
July 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
tarp1 has a good point, there are worse diseases out there that we don’t have vaccines for
- I don’t know why this one is such a big deal -maybe it has the potential to spread or mutate more than other viruses – I don’t know, but I don’t think it’s some conspiracy thing
but I do wonder
PrivateSi Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
There are a lot of reasons but I disagree with Alex’s eugenics reasoning. No matter what he tells you vaccines have helped increase populations by preventing harmful diseases. Flu pandemics have killed 100s of millions, more than all the wars of the 20th century combined. Woe betide the modern gov. that sat back and did nothing….Damned if you do, damned if you don’t in the schismed disunited states.
Inject this! Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Forget conspiracies. When you read up on it, you will find is there are ways to rid yourself of disease and protect yourself from virus’ other than vaccinations.
Look up Colloidal Silver, Oil of Oregano and Thieves Oil just to name a few.
You won’t hear about these because Big Pharma doesn’t make money from natural cures….and they can’t have that.
9th1 Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Colloidal Silver is all anyone needs, it can also be used in
your drinking water to make it safe and free from viruses
and bacteria.
Here is “The Colloidal Silver Fact Sheet” – Lists all of the uses
of Colloidal Silver, it truly is a one product cure-all.
http://all4webs.com/q/u/colloidalsilver/
joel Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
jim humble projectcamelot.org
MMS (mircale mineral suplement)
cure cancer
viruses
aids
malaria
watch the interview
PrivateSi Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
If you take your medical advice from Project Camelot or Infowars etc. you are only going to be sold expensive unproven products. EAT healthily, stay away from GM food if you can (easier in Europe than the US), exercise and STAY MODERATE!!
PrivateSi Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Colloidal silver and gold have side effects too and all alternative medicines are unproven as effective anti-virals. Tamiflu is well tested and it’s limitations are well documented. Typical 50% effectiveness to many flu (and other viral) infections. This is of course not very good but compared to unproven, possible snake oils I’d go with NO MEDICATION, what’s the point, I’m healthy enough and eat well. SAVE YOUR MONEY!!
joel Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:05 am
20 bucks year supply and it works ohh yeah they teach you how to make it dumb ass
or are you so stupid you belive everything the fda tells you. mm hmmmm well try it or are you scared into submission. bahhhh little sheep bahhh
joel Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:09 am
ohh yeah europians might have less gmo but half the country is still radioactive from Chernobyl
Inject this! Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 3:43 am
You are misinformed. You continue to listen to liars.
I have heard of no side effects of colloidal silver or the oils….except for that “blue guy” who makes it incorrectly and drinks too much. I’ve heard of colloidal gold but haven’t done any reading on it.
Tamiflu is NOT well tested and is NOT safe. Anyone taking it is foolish. The Federal Death Administration (FDA) is loaded with globalists. (They’re the ones wearing suits) I don’t believe a thing they say.
Also, don’t buy ANY vitamins or supplements from Wal-Mart or other box stores. They’re cheap crap products from China. In fact, don’t shop at Wal-Mart PERIOD.
Vitamin C and D and magnesium are important but don’t buy the 55 Gallon barrel for $5.99 crap.
joel Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 4:09 am
your right vitamins have been proven unsafe because the body is unable to absorb them and the best way to get them is from food sources. And yeah you can turn blue if you use to much but it’s been around for along time and allot of old timers use it especially some family who are pretty damn old and still around. but the fact is alternative medicine is around for a reason it’s an alternative for people who cant aford a doctor which their medicine is crap anyways. And the s--- works you just cant be such a pussy and try it. I get better results from that crap you get at walgreens that has that get over colds five times faster slogan and has the thing you shove up your nose or spray and tablets whatever anyway theirs more than one way of doing things you just cant be closed minded and yeah lots of people try to f--- you over for a buck but not everyone you just cant always be the closed minded pussy that says everything doesnt work.
Inject this! Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Absolutely.
I get my stuff mostly from a health food store or local farmer’s market for the natural vitamins. I don’t shop at my local grocery store anymore. I don’t know where these fruits and Veg’s come from.
Most of these over the counter meds (like most prescription meds) only mask the symptoms and rarely cure anything.
Stop eating ALL fast foods (KFC is particularly poisonous) , soda, chips, packaged meals in a box or can, frozen meals etc.
I know this stuff is fast and convenient but the poisons in these foods causes a lot of the health problems people have.
Stop eating crap and maybe you’ll feel better and won’t get sick. Eat fruit for breakfast instead of McDonalds. If you’re still hungry, eat more fruit. Your body will adjust.
The good vitamins will cost more because they actually work and aren’t rejected by your body. If you buy the cheap crap and your body doesn’t use them, how are you saving money??????? Oil of Oregano is pretty expensive as is Thieves Oil but work well.
I don’t think these people are closed minded so much as they haven’t opened their minds yet. The conditioning is pretty well entrenched in them.
joel Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
vegetarian. organic and I can already tell I know more than you. These cures are for when you get sick. Preventive goes only so far. My wife is a public health major I know about all this s---. I dont f--- with fast food and you wouldnt need whole food vitamins if you stayed away from the f---n big mac. Essential oils and all that s--- are effective I should know I have extensive training. So I dont understand youre rant do you think I’m some fat f--- that trys to treat their diabetes with meds while eating the big mac or is it just you. Theirs lots of cures out their that arent dangerous. We dont need vaccines or modern antibiotics for the simple s--- anymore thats my main argument. Even the nasty s---. get your head out your ass budy.
July 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Something tells me that this people I mean elites ,have run out of control ! The mass awakening
of millions around the world ,is not something to take easy! Because wakening has taken a very serious term and it is out of their control! They are about to loose…they see it ! that is why they are rushing everything! This isthe time to get organised ,stick together and keep wakening all.. NON STOP
July 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
What freaks me out is, that these vaccinations could be injected with some deadly virus that kills people
off in a matter of weeks all over the world, and the “authorities” will say, “Oh we made a very big bad human mistake and injected millions of people with a deadly virus, while knowing all along that the virus is in there…and after millions die, the “authorities” hang some scapecoat person, while the eugenics mission succeeds at killing millions…and the “authorities” as so very sorry….this to me seems to be their pattern.
PrivateSi Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
It hasn’t happened yet but it could. Of course, it could be the other way round, the vaccinated survive a biowarfare attack – or more likely the whole mass cull was old, cold war propaganda hijacked by the anti-vax alternative health industry. The more illnesses you get due to lack of vax. + fear of proper medicine means you’ll buy more snake oil crap!!! I don’t know, to be honest I don’t really care anymore!
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I think I’ll trust my own immune system, thanks. natural remedies have been around alot longer than pharmas so I would trust them more than some money grubbin’ pharma suit and tie. besides, if you have the knowledge, natural products are practically free. hence, the propaganda directed at them.
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
and one more thing-what exactly is “proper medicine”? and also, the illnesses I sometimes get are not due to lack of vax. I have never had a flu shot and I rarely get the flu. Almost everyone I know who has gotten a flu shot has gotten the flu and believes it was from the shot.
July 16th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
its funny with the 100s of hours of research why the hell isnt their any sited evidence at the end. Its bulls--- and crappy journalism. Prove this to me I’m not a blind sheep in the heard. I dont vaccinate my kids but it’s crap like this that give excusses to the medical community that give them the reason to say it’s all crap(poor research jounalism) and gives motive to the nwo being a bunch of bulls---. come on alex jones how about some journalistic integrety. ohh yeah philosiphy and hard line science dont mix it’s like religion and evolution.give sited sources and you’ll get the respect you deserve.
WHAMMO! Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Note: This essay deals only with the philosophical argument against forced vaccination by the state.
Are you blind?
joel Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:08 am
whammo i did note that jackass but aaaa maybe I was pointing out the fact that most of this s--- never has sited sources. whistle blowing is all good but you need facts even if it’s main point at the end is philosophical theirs still a touch of science and good journalism is allways sited so you know if the s--- your reading has merrit. whammo
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
so why don’t you look it up for yourself? then you could make an educated comment instead of whining like a spoiled child who isn’t getting everything handed to them on a silver platter. jackass
joel Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
because this is a news center thats supose to have allready looked are you stupid. Thats the whole point of coming here. If i wanted assumed news I would read the news paper who get their info from news confrences. alex jones makes documenteries are you retarted. so do you read all this s--- and say thats so true. You need proof sited sources thats how its done in credible journalism and thats why people always say this s--- is conspiracy. It would be taken more seriously if it was sited.The credible data to support this is always hidden and in the place that exposes this it shouldnt be hidden. you cant disagree unless your just another sheep
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I don’t disagree with documented journalism. I do disagree with your opinion that this article should be “sited”(cited) with links. the disclaimer at the beginning pretty much nullifies the need for citing sources. it’s an opinion and a philosophical viewpoint on the subject. anything stated is open to your or my disagreement. unless you already know the facts, it’s usually better to keep your mouth shut until you do. and no, I don’t think I’m stupid. I think you are. also, I know Alex makes documentaries. I’ve seen most of them. I also looked up alot of the info to see it for myself so, no, I’m not retarded either. lastly, have you ever heard of discernment? It does wonders for your perception.
July 16th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Here is evidence: http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=895
July 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
im 42 and had the flu once i never took flu shots and never will.
July 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
FREE H1N1 VACCINATIONS FOR THE POLITICIANS FIRST AND WALL STREET BANKSTERS
July 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Honestly I must say that the “concept” of vaccination, that is a preventive action for the benefit of the person vaccinated, is valid, and a “forced” vaccination then would be not such a serious discussion as the present one is. However, the present one is blatantly scary because the vaccine in question is not going to go through a serious testing procedure. I think it’s obvious to all that this a rushed program, and that the testing is going to be pushed through quickly, which leaves me wondering how “safe” it really will be. I am not arguing against the “concept” of forced vaccination, although on strictly constitutional grounds there would be a good defense, but on the fact that the testing will not be thorough and therefore, the end product may not be in fact safe to administer. The gov is taking a big gamble here…..I for one will try to resist any forced vaccination and will argue the same to my friends and family.
July 16th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
google Dr. sherry tenpenny
July 16th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
COME AND TRRRRY TO GIVE ME A SHOT BECAUSE I HAVE ONE FOR YOU!!!!!!!
July 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
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July 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
first they will have to prove they are effective and they must disclose full list of ingredients and assume full responsibility for adverse side effect
so if there ever was dangerous side effect and you forcing it into someone body knowing and that person dies , that is a murder !!!!!!!!!!!
So Congress just approved forced murder ?????
July 16th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
I would rather die than be forced to get a vaccination. There is no philisophical debate. It is called my right to chose. Oh, I forgot. It is only for women the right to chose. On everything else, the government wants to force you to do it there way, otherwise.
July 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
“National Strike Against The Dictator
“A National Strike against the dictator is being called for Wednesday, November 4.
“Do not go to work. We will begin coordination with Tea Party groups. We are planning street action. Our initial plan is to shut down operations at all three network news outlets, CNN and Fox News by surrounding their headquarters.
“Developing…”
http://accdf.com/blog/2009/07/.....-dictator/
July 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Philosophica argument … HELL !
I will not take the f---ing shots, cause they are trying to KILL mE !
July 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I just made my own bread, tasted awesome! I got a bread machine at the Salvation Army for $8. Looks like it was never used. They always seem to have a few of these machines there. Put all the ingredients in, press the button, an hour later eureka! bread!
July 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Do Not Take the Vaccine!
July 16th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Polio is caused by killing all “germs” mostly by bleach.This weakens your immune system to a degree that polio finds an opportunity to attack..fact.. Cause..Doctors,scientist and marketeers…The vaccine for polio gave us not just hv40,but simian immune virus.When a child is under one year old,they have a weak immune system.This S.I.V will then mutate to H.I.V..This happened in the inoculation program of the Congo 1957.(The River by Edward Hooper)..The next outbreak was New York ,hep B vaccination.Promiscuous homosexuals were called for.This vaccine was also amplified on chimp kidneys.As no children under one were involved,we can deduce that H.I.V was placed in the vaccine..The reason ,population control of homosexuals and drug users..Research shows that these people in control cause the outbreaks in the first place.They cover up all the horror storys..of vaccines adverse affects..The flu vaccine will have synthetic squalene-based adjuvants.This can cause an antibody reaction to naturally occurring squalene. ..You have two paths and your standing at the fork..Follow your existing leaders or walk with nature and use natural remedy’s.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun
When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting in death row
You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you’ll have to answer to
Oh, Guns of Brixton
July 16th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
The medical profession have set themselfs up as the high priests of science. They claim to be scientific but actually they are mostly rational materialists who devoutly follow medical/business orthodoxy. They appear to lack any philosophical conciousness.
I am a sceptic in the traditional sense. I don’t disbelieve everything, but I always question people who claim to know it all. I recognise the imperfect limits of human knowledge.
When my first son was born the medicos told me he needed a vitamin K shot. 1 in 30,000 babies suffers from internal haemoraging as a result of a traumatic birth. The fact that my wife was ordered to have a cesarean birth, therefore the baby could not possibly be haemoraging, made aboslutely no difference.
When we talked to them, they stuck with their propaganda line, no doubt for the benifit of the junior doctors and trainees in their pack. Like high priests they were condecending, arrogant and insulting.
My children have never had a vaccine, I have had not had antibiotics for 20 years, we eat well and exercise. We are all perfectly healthy, thank God. No thanks to vaccines.
P.S. some vacines may be necessary but I belive most are not. You have to judge for yourself.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
A Philosophical Argument against Forced Vaccination:
“You have a right to defend yourself.”
Gary Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Best argument I’ve seen.
sudburychange Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Indeed, they will never stick that thing in me or my family unless I’m dead.
July 16th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
everyone is dancing around the real issue. Why would we be forced to get vaccinated against something that kills less people than the regular flu??????????
the regular flu has been with modern society for decades and it was never mandatory to be vaccinated. WHY MAKE THIS LESS VIRULENT FLU CARRY A MANDATORY VACCINATION???????????
whats their motivation??????
somethings not right and i’m opting out.
bob
Gary Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Because it’s the vaccination they’re going to kill us with, not the flu.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Great article Mr. Burke!
July 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
“Submission to a government and to a collective for the benefit of ’social good’ is a direct conflict with the principles of liberty that separated America from other nations and allowed for greatness.”
No. Submission to a government (however transitory) and to a collective for the benefit of ’social good’ is the very basis of the rule of law. Let’s not go overboard, Mr Burke. The challenge is to make the rule of law REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMON GOOD. The American theory is that, when ALL the citizenry are involved in making the laws, enough reason will emerge from the collective that the harmful effects of bad government will be vanquished. This was never the TRUE intent, however, except for a handful of the original authors of the Constitution; Benjamin Franklin, for instance, said it was badly written. What does this phrase in the founding document “right to … the pursuit of happiness” mean, afterall. Can you deprive anyone of “the PURSUIT of happitness”? Even a prisoner under a life sentence? Does the phrase mean that the Government underwrites each citizen in his/her pursuit of happiness, guaranteeing in some sense the success of the pursuit? No. The fine phrases were a demogogic fraud. The concessions to the ordinary citizenry were originally few, not going very much further than restoring the “Rights of Englishmen” that had been subverted by the Imperial Crown. And the ORIGINAL intent was to guarantee the peaceful rule of the native élite – the plantation owners, big merchants, and overseas traders.
The Constitution has been redefined many times to give, at one turn, the mass of the people, at another, the ruling élite, more social and economic power. It is a LIVING constitution, and in this sense it is the basis of a “republic, if you can keep it”, in the words of Franklin. The Constitution is not a book of sorcery that magically defends liberty: it is the approved minutes of an ongoing social conflict. Only as such is it law. But even law, according to the precedents of Constitutional jurisprudence, is not absolute. The guarantees of the original Constitution were meager and were not granted without a fight. The burgess élite still considers the Constitution the founding document of its rule. It has always been up to the citizenry to turn it to their own purposes.
July 16th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
They may try to force us with getting the flu shot, but I’m sure they will die from lead poisoning. Get my drift?
Gary Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Yep. This will be an exchange of heavy metals. They attempt to shoot me full of mercury and I’ll shoot them full of lead.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I see this as a matter of self-defense. If the vaccine is making people sick, some to the point of death, then the chances are this is the means to the elite’s plan to wipe out 90% of the population, or at least to sicken and incapacitate us in order to institute a martial law police state, at the very least. The whole thing is highly suspicious, either way. Given this, I am not trusting anyone with my health and my life and if anyone comes near me with the intent of injecting me with anything, I will fight them to the death to protect myself. If I have sufficient warning and they come to my home, I will shoot to kill on sight.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I’m pro vax. but not when it’s unnecessary for over half the population and poorly tested. Forced vaccination is obviously against human rights.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Het folks go to http://freemanradio.com/ and take the poll
July 16th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
If our govt’s really cared about our health, both physical and mental, then truely healthy foods would be promoted and made just as cheap and accessible as the fast food that is slowly killing us. Are your kids vaccinated against fast food?
July 16th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
http://www.americasrepublicmilitia.net
July 17th, 2009 at 12:08 am
I can tell you for a fact that they DO NOT educate nurses about he dangers of vaccines, how they are made, what they contain and how those factors effect people.
It’s just a matter of pushing drugs, jabbing the patients and signing your initials just like a good little nurse would do.
Anything a nurse knows about vaccines adverse effects is learned on his or her own.
In the medical field, big pharma is king…period!
July 17th, 2009 at 1:05 am
6:29am UK, Friday July 17, 2009
“A six-year-old boy from Kent who was believed to be otherwise healthy has died after contracting swine flu, Sky sources have said.
The latest death comes after Britain’s chief medical officer warned that up to 65,000 people could die from swine flu across the UK.”
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Ho.....nt_Warning
July 17th, 2009 at 1:29 am
“Reporting requirements change for pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus infection
16 July 2009 — Countries with community-wide transmission of pandemic (H1N1) 2009 infection are no longer required to submit regular reports of individual laboratory-confirmed cases and deaths to WHO, according to new surveillance guidance published today. But countries newly affected by the virus should report both first confirmed cases and weekly aggregated case numbers.”
http://www.who.int/en/
July 17th, 2009 at 1:51 am
I’m curious, how many of you would be willing to leave the country when the s--- hits the fan? Assuming the airports were still making regular flights out of the U.S. when martial law kicked in, would you have the means and/or option to flee on a dime?
I know that for me it is a damn good and probable option.
Inject this! Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 4:03 am
No it isn’t. If they declare Martial Law, nobody is going anywhere.
Unless you live by the ocean and have a boat and can sneak into…. say Cuba. But the Coast Guard (and others) will be patrolling the waters so I don’t see that as an option.
Screw it. I’m not running away. It’ll be more fun to stay and fight than live a life looking over your shoulder.
Options Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 11:57 am
If what you say becomes reality (exits shutting down upon martial law), then yeah, you’d have no other choice but to duke it out. However, if you did have the chance to slip away from North America PRIOR to the closing of airports, seaports, and borders, would you do it?
I keep hearing so many survival plans, such as stocking up on food, water, ammunition, etc…..but I’m not seeing plans for leaving the homeland. I suppose i should just assume that Americans are bad ass enough to see this thing through rather than run from it. Either that or skepticism that martial law would seriously take effect.
July 17th, 2009 at 2:40 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lliA2Av8dd8
July 17th, 2009 at 5:04 am
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July 17th, 2009 at 5:09 am
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July 17th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Mandatory vaccination is very dangerous group think that is not based in any kind of USA law. If you are an individual that believes in vaccination you have the belief that the shot will protect you. You get the shot you are supposedly protected. This is group think drug marketing that is based in some kind of nowhere law. Wake the hell up.
July 17th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Alex mentioned that he sues people for slander. That’s hilarious, he makes all this money slandering people as a profession, and then uses it to sue people for slander.
justanotherkook Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
nice handle, assanine comment fathead
July 17th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Let’s look at a logical argument against mandatory vaccination. If we accept that vaccinations will prevent the disease it is designed to prevent (I know, leap of faith, but it’s the party line!) as a corollary, that the government is willing to provide them free and no one is uninformed as to the threat of disease and availability, then how would one person’s decision not to be vaccinated harm anyone? If they decided to take the vaccine, then they’re immune regardless of germs being flung off of me, right? If they decided against the vaccine, then they have the same chances of warding it off as I do, right? And the same chance of surviving any infection, which will provide natural immunity if they survive, depending only on their own health. So, who are we harming if we refuse by informed decision? Surely not the immune, surely not those that made the same choices for any reason and surely not the government that has to supply the vaccine and labor to inject it which is an expense. That leaves, oh, yeah, BIG PHARMA! And, maybe, those that wish us harm and think or know these flu shots aren’t “safe and effective”?
July 17th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Great article, John, and well written. I do not see how anyone can state that our American government believes that we own our bodies. This is absolutely not the case. Sheesh, we don’t even own our own houses! My taxes went up this year and if I don’t pay them – the county takes my house. See? Simple. The county owns my property. They’re widening the street in front of my house. They did not ask me – they didn’t even inform me! Some contracting company was out in my yard digging a huge trench with heavy equipment all over my yard. No one contacted me, no one warned me, no one asked my permission. These guys were putting in a new tap for the new water main that had to be put in due to the street project. They tore up a large portion of my lawn with no recompense. See? Simple. I do not own the property, thus the county doesn’t have to ask permission, nor do they have to inform me of their desires. All I own is the mortgage, the taxes, the bills, the upkeep, the responsibility. The government owns the property.
I make that point to validate my earlier point: You do not own you body. I was forced to sign up for the draft at 18. Why? Because I do not own my body. My parents vaccinated me over and over. Why? I don’t own my body. I’ve been arrested for smoking pot on private property. Why? I don’t own my body. I’ve been arrested for being drunk on private property. Why? I don’t own my body. My well was filled in and I cannot drill another. I am forced to drink fluoridated chlorinated water from the city. Why? I don’t own my property nor my body. My mother could’ve legally aborted me. Why? I don’t own my own body. I pay taxes to people who live thousands of miles away, I pay tax that funds wars I loathe and detest, I pay tax that goes to institutions I find abhorrent and abominable. Why? I don’t own my property, I don’t own my body, I don’t own my soul. So much for the American Dream.
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July 18th, 2009 at 8:11 am
They don’t yet own your mind! They can tell you what they want you to believe but you don’t have to accept or comply with their desires. Why? Because you own your mind. However, we don’t have long until they try to take our minds also. They want to implant all of us (or whoever survives the revolution) with different types of chips. Chips to track our location, chips to manipulate our emotional and mental functions, chips to supposedly help us with thinking, etc, etc.
They don’t yet have our minds and we need to do whatever necessary to resist their objective.
July 17th, 2009 at 10:17 am
I finally found my people
July 17th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Don’t even fall into the trap of debating “philosophy”,it will just get your mind open to the suggestion of accepting it by an adroit governmental debater.
I won’t take this shot because it is too risky and I do not know the real intentions of those that will administer it.
Period.
July 17th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Do the people who made the vaccines take it?
If yes,
Randomly select a shot out of many for each vaccine maker
Watch them take it
Then you take it
Else if
Endif
July 17th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Here’s a better philosophy!!!
Hot lead from an AK-47 to any needle-poker!!!!
RESIST!!!
TO THE VERY DEATH!!!!
July 17th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Alex Jones’ website even using the word “philosophy” is a step in the right direction.
Statism: “We must use violence to protect people from violence!” Please think about this contradiction… Get educated. Search, “FreeDomain Radio”
Too bad Alex Jones and most “truthers” are as ignorant as the fluoride-heads they’re trying to wake up when it comes to philosophy — rational fundamentals of metaphysics, epistemology, ethics, politics.
A “constitutional republic” is a step in the right direction, but it IS NOT the final destination for a truly free society. All government, except self-government is an illusion maintained by murder and lies.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
oops- here’s the link:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/previe.....056803.htm
July 17th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbtyL3T69OA Pandemic Swine Flu Shots Mercury & Thermirosal
July 21st, 2009 at 7:03 pm
We need a t-shirt that says
I SURVIVED THE 1977 SWINE FLU MASSACRE
Well, at least we old farts need one.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:02 am
H1N1 . . ….. R2D2…… H1N1 …. R2D2……..
- SCIENTIFIC PROGRAMMING