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ABC News: “Conspiracy Theorists” Are Mentally Ill
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ABC News
December 13, 2008
Editor’s note: Note the lengths ABC goes to convice us that people who believe the government pulled off 9/11 and had Kennedy assassinated are akin to the guy who thinks the postal worker is after him. It has filed this “report” under “Health > Mind & Mood News.”
A man standing on a street corner with a sign reading “the lizard people rule you all,” or, “my neighbors are spying on me for the government” isn’t likely to get many supporters.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
But give that man a Web site template, or let him produce some slick videos on YouTube and, lo and behold, he may have thousands of people across the world supporting him.
Such is the story of several extraordinarily popular conspiracy theorists and theories online today.
Take the victims of gang stalking — a subculture of people who think their friends and neighbors are all secret government spies ready to turn them over to the authorities. The movement has recently spawned gang stalking support groups, forums and advice Web sites.
Or take the former journalist and BBC sports announcer, David Icke, for example.
Icke was laughed out of the public eye in the early ’90s when he started wearing only turquoise and explaining that voices had sent him on an important mission to save the earth.
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December 13th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
~ABC news? who’s that? I hear Infowars is where to get substantive news.. Infact, not only is it actual up to date news, its accurate news! So whats all this ABC news stuff? Their just little fish!
December 13th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
so stupid my other comment is clear
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December 13th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
What is that mental illness that classifies people with severe cases of denial?
December 13th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Matty said it quite succinctly. Bravo.
December 13th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
“MacDonald cautioned that not everyone who believes in a conspiracy plot is mentally ill. They just may be suggestible or just suspicious of authority.”
You infowars editors should really spend more time reading the articles before headlining them.
December 13th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
I dont agree with much of the conjecture on her but I think its amazing that there is a legal charge of conspiracy but conspiracy theorists are always said to be wrong. The angle of attack by the “expert” was a little different than the premise of the title here. He was saying that conspiracy theorists probably weren’t crazy but crazy people might feed off their info. By that reasoning perhaps we should ban tinfoil and dentists.
December 13th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
well it is no conspiracy or secret,that many politicians and even celebrities have tried to hide who
they really are behind images,only to be exposed at some later date,look at Rock Hudson,he was
gay,but his handlers in Hollywood arranged to have him marry a woman so that he could project
a image that he was straight,the examples i could give,go on and on,so the whole point iam
making is that .IF…something is a real conspiracy…..you can bet that it will hide behind
projected images….it’s called play acting…..but the eyes are the window to the soul,and it’s
here,where images fail to produce the desired result
December 13th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
agreed with #1
U wont get any britney spears news here.
even if you don’t agree with the viewpoint, they cover almost every important story.
wtf is ABC?
December 13th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
If were going to have any chance to save this country we need to spark a grass roots movement and begin turning people to our side.
The country is in turmoil and I believe more people will be receptive to a pro-freedom message. I know we just elected a communist but according to a recent poll 36% of Obama voters thought Sara Palin was Obama’s running mate. In other words they are fools.
So lets take advantage of the turmoil and use it for our benefit!
JPFO has a free video called “2A today for the USA”
http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-.....wnload.htm
What if we blanket the internet with this video for a start?
You guys are geniuses so finding a way to make this work shouldn’t be a problem, so spread the word!
December 13th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
William Colby
(1920-1996) former Director of the CIA
December 13th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
The Lizard People thing is kooky in my opinion. I agree with the other stuff David Icke has to say but that is off the wall. I think what David is trying to express when he mentions Lizard People is that our leaders are very cold and unloving people with no concern for the wellbeing of the people they lead and how their decision result in misery and death for the populace.
It is extremely illogical to imply that anyone who questions reported fact as possibly mentally ill. I think that journalists who are not doctors who imply such things are the ones possibly mentally ill.
Lauren, you can pull through. Get some help.
December 13th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Icke is another Alex Jones he carries the british people and that island on his back. many have been waken through this fellow, God almighty bless him just like Jones. When the news media goes all out to point to us the alternative media than they are getting the message..all we have to do is keep going ever forward relentless, steadfast, and unwavering in the end the blessing will come. We are getting there attention and they will eat at each other with there own words, I say stay strong look for signs….”when you see day and it’s not bright outside than than there goes your sign pray deeply for salvation brothers, all in the fight for justice, freedom, love, and unity….all virtues that make one with God(Jeh).
December 13th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
~Hey theres a great YouTube Video being censored right now called:
A Symphony of a New World Order
key tags words such as Obama and Bush dont list this video anymore, PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WAS FIRST ON OBAMAS YESTERDAY TILL THEY TOOK IT OFF! Its worth the viewing come check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7VPUM1dAds
December 13th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
So anyone who asks any questions or doubts about we are being told is a loony? Are these people going to be put in mental hospitals and given medication? Oh dear, we’re in trouble, the world is going straight to hell… Things are gonna get nasty, I can feel it, total tyranny is coming…
December 13th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
If Conspiracy Theorists are crazy, which I”m convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that it is actually conspiracy fact, then the media networks and media whores have to be some of the biggest criminals known to man who help support the most dangerous criminals on earth. The only good thing that will happen is when these well paid liars who don’t give a rats ass about anybody except themselves, are led out in handcuffs and put away alongside there buddies. If the truth is ever realized on a grand scale, there will be no cave these greedy fuckers could hide in. This is the trophy they deserve for supporting and helping to cover up the biggest crimes in history. Have a good day !
December 13th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Thanks Mainstream Media for the advertising. Now many more will look into so called conspiracy theories. You people love killing yourself, dont you? When you are not lying, or spinning, you are giving coverage to the very things you dont want known. Im just concerned about all the establishment folk and their willful ignorance and denial of facts when we take back this country. We are going to see a lot of so called normal people seeking help.
December 13th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
yes we are nuts. when you are able to see how the power elite run the planet you are nuts. get back in your car and sit in traffic. or buy a happy meal.
http://www.aniboom.com/video/2.....own-kenny/
December 13th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
I like being crazy… Keeps me warm!
December 13th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
This is a perfect example of double think. WOW!! What an illustration of culture control. There is the over theme of the article that insinuates that people outside the mainstream way of thinking are “conspiracy” theorists & therefore nuts. A very high percentage of readers will take exactly this from the article & go along their merry way.
Secondarily though, other than the mention of Lizard People, Icke was presented as well spoken & rational. He wasn’t directly quoted saying Lizard People, & his sentiments were logical. So folks whose eye may be caught by the term conspiracy theory will see him as not sounding nuts at all & maybe check him out.
The point is that while David Icke has many great points about big brother, 9/11 etc. he is a funded inside guy whose purpose is to pull people through the patriot movement into the sci-fi realm. His patriot ideas are right on point. But once your “buying what he’s selling” he gets into vibrational energy, lizards etc. which is exactly the mystical new age sort of thing being pushed by the agenda.
So while they criticize his cause, they also promote him on a secondary level. A true smear piece would quote him ranting on & really sounding nuts. This is a remarkable example of exactly how the media mind game really works.
December 13th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I hate these scumbag nutless spineless reporters and journalists, how dare they call themselves that, they dont have the investigative spunk to get to the bottom of any story, the real storey
Squelched little reporters is all they are ,writing for the nwo.
These little traitorous weasels, fine because they’re in with the power establishment, they’ll have a paycheck so long as they lie, while others starve trying to find honest work.
I’d love to smash these people in the face with bricks were it made a suiting punishmnet by law for their cowardly spinelessness.
December 13th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
BREAKING NEWS! The author of the article also is in a battle with her dad because he doesn’t believe in GLOBAL WARMING: http://www.sciencemetropolis.com/category/audio/
Now we all KNOW where this article came from.
December 13th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Crazy yes…like a Fox!
December 13th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
The MEDIA of course has another big strike, towards further discreditably. This is blatant SLANDER! Will these fools ever learn to keep their mouths shut?
December 13th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Woah, you guys should go read the comments being left by people from the truth movement..a lot have already been deleted so hurry and go leave comments of your own.
Especially deleted are those who leave facts about 9/11 that mainstream does not report on.
December 13th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
MSM should stick with covering Britney’s hair cuts & carrier comebacks or the latest trends in flue injections and GM bailouts.
ABC Sprain the Brain Bruise ….. is running out of feed
December 13th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Don´t worry. Im sure the medical industry will find a drug to cure you from your theories!
Only 49.99$ a month, and it will help you sleep!
December 13th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
This is a Standard-Toolbox Police State 101 and CIA MI6 technique called “bad-jacketing”. Tar your accusers with guilt by association, and thereby blunt their legitimate accusations of your own crimes. Next: get the LAPDOG MEDIA, owned by your own corrupt banker bosses, to spread this garbage. Got a minute? Google “OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD”, and consult that trove of conspiracy theories, the Congressional Record.
The facts of government crimes are so enormous right at the moment: EIGHT TRILLION stolen by the bankers — FOREIGN bankers — in a matter of weeks, a grisly couple of wars for nothing and benefitting no one but the weapons makers and Halliburton, the utter degradation of America as a Beacon of Freedom (remember that?), the departure of our industrian base for slave-labor countries, &c., &c. ad infin. –
the result being that the criminals that have infested government while the STUPID COCKERSPANIEL-BRAINED public slept are now suddenly scared of mobs with pitchforks and barrels of tar and feathers, as they should be.
Jefferson said: “When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
So articles like this “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain” slime are certainly going to increase in number and intensity.
December 13th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
THE NWO’s time is numbered…as the sheeple are waking up…herd by herd, and they are going to turn on and smash the elitist inbreds…I bet it will be triggered by some seemingly insignificant and small act, like the “accidental” shooting of the young girl in the movie “V for Vendetta”.
December 13th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Questioning the reality being presented to you by the media is a mental illness. Please report to your local authorities for sensitivity training.
December 13th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
This “news article” under “mind and health” is a real insult to people who are well read, WHO CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, their FAMILY, their FUTURE, their children’s future. Its disgusting to see such a smear piece. OK, so NOT EVERYONE agrees with David Icke’s Reptilian evidence. (I IN FACT, DO believe him, because I saw pretty convincing evidence in his book: Tales from the Time Loop”) But ya know what? The guy is 99% ACCURATE. GRAB ONE OF DAVID ICKES BOOKS and go to the references and research for yourself! ITS ALL TRUE! 9/11, Kennedy, etc.
So ABC news says: “YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL if you believe there is ANYTHING wrong about the world. So take your Mercury loaded vaccines, take your prescription Prozac which HIGHLY increases suicide… give your baby Melamine loaded baby formula… give your children LEAD contaminated Chinese Toys from Walmart… only take your kids to Government Indoctrination “Schools”. ONLY eat frozen microwave dinners… DO NOT buy Organic foods. DO NOT TAKE VITAMINS because they are “BAD” for you!” MERCURY IS GOOD FOR THE BRAIN AND CHILDREN. THE GOVERNMENT LOVES YOU. The government WOULD NEVER harm anyone. So if you DISAGREE WITH THIS You have “Oppositional Defiant Disorder – ODD” and you cannot own a GUN, too!” – SAYS ABC/CBS/MSNBC/FOX/CNN/CSPAN, etc.
So here is a real eye opener: Bayer Corporation (you know, the makers of Asprin? They KNOWINGLY AND WITH GOVERNMENT FDA APPROVAL – SOLD HIV (AIDS) contaminated blood product to HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS worldwide! Here it is! NO JOKE! This is the REAL sick world we live in when we are ruled by Psychopathic Elite who feed off of us! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcFDOWIl7Nw
December 13th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Ok, so I have a brain, look at facts, and come to the conclusion that Government dose NOT have our best intrests in mind. That makes me a conspiracy theorists, and I have mental problems? Then on the other hand you have those who will swallow what ever hog wash the Government feeds them never look at the facts and believe what ever they are told. These people dont feel that they have mental problems when they cant think for themselves?
Then you have those who know the truth but choose to lie to everyone and convince them of things such as global warming like Al Gore, I guess people like him are NORMAL? Back in the 70’s I use to hear of the coming ice age, in the 90’s global warming, and now they talk of climate change, all supposedly caused by man, wouldn’t some of us think of those people as conspiracy theorists? You have the news people come on, and spout out all this propaganda, and lie to us.
Yeah folks we are conspiracy theorists, and we have mental problems because we caught the Government in lie’s, we caught the news in lie’s, and now we should just forgive and forget that we were lied to. Well I dont know about other people, but when I am lied to I tend to keep an eye out for more of the same from those people.
Or we are conspiracy theorists because the government is deploying combat troops inside our country against the Constitution and openly admit it in the news. I am sick, I have mental problems just because I want to live and die free and I want the government to leave me the hell alone and do the job they were hired to do, and nothing more. Restore the Constitution, restore the Republic, oh god there I go again, more sick twisted thoughts, someone quick, pass me the floride so I can medicate myself!
December 13th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Am I being censored agian?
This is my 3rd post to this forum.
Testing, 1, 2, 3 – - -
December 13th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
It seems my links don’t work I’ll try this again:
first link: http://i136.photobucket.com/al.....orist3.jpg
December 13th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Where did my two(2) previous posts go?? The one’s prior to this one and prior to #33.
I KNOW, THEY GOT CENSORED AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SERVER BEING UNDER HEAVY LOADS, WHICH IS JUST A CHEAP EXCUSE.
Why don’t you just say SHUT UP!!!
December 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
People like David Icke are just very open minded people who question life, he doesn’t have any psychiatric problems, that’s just BS. Like some people are saying pretty soon they’re going to drug the shit out of people who believe in conspiracies, saying its a psychiatric problem.
Those fucktards who work for the mainstream media are sellouts, and traitors. What has been labeled a conspiracy theory before shall be known as fact in the future.
Luke 8:17 For nothing is hidden, that will not be revealed; nor anything secret, that will not be known and come to light.
December 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
msm news people are the ill ones…
bill o’reilly’s producer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
December 13th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Read the documents and take a look around.
Prescott organized the assassination of JFK.
Make no mistake, he is practically confessing to these crimes during his re-election campaign speeches when you look at all that’s now declassified and known.
December 13th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
ummm….
you guys know alex jones works for abc…
right???
—————
genesis communications is owned by abc—-along with cfr show ‘the view’ etc..ad nauseum
rosie worked for etc….
sad but true
sooner or later it’s gotta be dealt with—–sucks
December 13th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
alex jones works for genesis communications
which is owned by abc network
just like ‘the view’
just the facts…
December 13th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
Who cares what ABC says, thousands of people everyday are turning off their garbage and seeking news on alternative web sites. This shifts energy to the Net, they will try and control that energy shortly. FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT it! Don’t let them regulate or control/filter ANYTHING under ANT circumstance.
December 13th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
This is a perfect example of why news papers are NOT selling papers and are cutting jobs.
Nobody wants to hear this crap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, you can argue that declines in newspaper sales are direct results of issues related to the instability of economy and new technological advances such as the world wide web but is it really?
I just happen to live in a state whose national news paper sales are declining at rapid rate and local newspapers and talk radio are up. Does this surprise you? Well it shouldn’t.
Why don’t these “INSIDERS” talk about the Chicago thugs like the US Treasury and current administration oh yeah i almost forgot about the modern day robin hood the holy and anointed one appointed for change the YES we can team obama (CFR MEMBER) administration who are taking millions of dollars of tax payers money and giving it to who, (think for a minute) themselves ?????????? They will not even say who!!!!!
This should be an outraged to people of the US but do you hear it in the media?
Sorry, for all the grammar and righter flaws am just a no brained republican.
December 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
ABC news frogot to report all this :
What else! Those who rape children , torture children , kill children in their orgy rituals aren’t mentaly sick , they are just the perfect mankind! Those who who love wars , create wars and send to grave our brave young children and millions of inicent people for the sake of power and $$$ are not mentaly sick they are just perfect example of human being. Those who blow up building , create horor,panic for the sake of control and more power and $$$ are not sick , they are just fine with perfect brain functions! Those who steal trillions ,send down the world into depression, make thousand or even millions homeless, kill nations are not sick , no they are not sick, they are just acting normal! Those who make us drink floride water, tell us melamin and mercuray shots are good for ehalth are not sick , they are just right! Those who planing to kill 80 or 90% of humanity on earth are not mentaly sick , no they are not , they are just right. Those who hate freedom and enjoy to see rest of suffer are not sick they are absoultly fine!
Those who have ruined earth and nature ,our food and and the air we breath are not mentaly sick they are just allright and protecting the world and humanity!
The list is long and I can write for a long time. The point is , those runing the show , the NWO elites , are afraid! Afraid because people are waking up and on top of that , our free speech bother thems alot. The truth is killing them..Do you understand those people are afraid of truth. That is why , what ever is right and true is a poison to them. Folks don’t be afraid , free yourselves and speak up the truth. If saying that 9/11 was inside job makes you a mentaly ill, then in that case HALF OF THE WORLD is mentaly ill! Just stay strong and don’t change. The tactics that they use now , just show , how weak they have gotten because of YOU good people.
They will get what they asked for. They are DYING. Their days are numbered… it is going to happen very fast and they are going to be cornered.
December 13th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
The article from ABC News is censoring people when they try to comment. Not one of my posts on infowars has been censored, but every one of my posts has been immediately deleted from ABC news.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/76015
December 13th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Suspicion of your government =conspiracy theorists.
Iraq has WMD = American government.
8 years and no proof. Who is the nut???
Where is Bin Laden??
Iran is making a nuclear bomb??
Sounds like someone pointing the finger has a mental issue…..
December 13th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JizGkM6gbvQ
i was looking for the clip of where stallone says:
“This facist shit makes me sick”
December 13th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Yep, it’s full out censorship on these forums.
December 13th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
This 10 part study of the Naudet film, especially part 8, shows in great detail why this ground breaking film of 911 proves why it was a fraud.
I am now certain that the fireman of company 7 were complicit in 911. These men are criminals of the highest calibre.
http://www.spingola.com/JULES%20NAUDET%201.htm
December 13th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Someone should look up Lauren Cox’s contact information.
E-mail, work phone and work address so we can send her information.
Maybe she’s just not that bright? Maybe she’s just in denial?
I’d be curious to know how she came up with this story.
December 13th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Of course “Conspiracy Theorists” Are Mentally Ill. But those who become members of secret sociaties like Scul&Bones who masturbate in coffins, who kill millions of people in other countries, they themselves are of course “mentally sane”.
December 13th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”
There are conspiracies and there is truth. The trick is to hide it among so much misinforation
and disinformation that the masses won’t know what to believe.
Often the truth is hidden in plain sight. Eg., The powers that be warned us about 911 before it
happened, and after it happened they virtually told us they did it. They have many ways of telling
us these things – movies, books, symbols, etc., but we don’t pay much attention to it.
My take on ABC News: Have you notices ABC over the years have gradually gotten more into
celebrity sensationalism? Take shows like 20/20 and Primetime which used to be investigative journalism – now mostly celebrityism and sensational individual crimes. ABC has gone out of its
way trying to promote the official goverment theories and to besmirch those who question them.
Don’t forget the movie they made about Flt 93 and even ate the cost. And don’t forget Peter
Jennings who went on the History Channel with Beyond Conspiracy with a blatant lie as you can
see in the first 2 minutes of this clip: JFK II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
December 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGEdDd5zsHo
December 13th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
That theres a right and wrong,
And that punishment
Would come to those
Who dare to cross the line.
But it must not be true
For jerk-offs like you.
Maybe it takes longer to catch a total asshole.
But Im tired of waiting.
Maybe its just bullshit and I should play god,
And shoot you myself.
Because Im tired of waiting.
Consequences dictate
Our course of action
And it doesnt matter whats right.
Its only wrong if you get caught.
If consequences dictate
My course of action
I should play god
And shoot you myself.
Im very tired of waiting.
I should
Kick you,
Beat you,
Fuck you,
And then shoot you in your fucking head.
December 13th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
There´s nothing behind to discuss gentlemen,All over the iternet from one side to the other in the world EVERYBODY already knows what the NWO is and IT´S NOT A CONSPIRACY ANYMORE,most of the “masters” are speaking up nowadays,we are not anymore problems for them.So Why are these people discussing the issue still?
Take a look in my country,Argentina,this site: http://www.chemtrailsbaires.wordpress.com and it´s just one of them.
December 13th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
HA HA. Our Communist media is trying to call me crazy!!! of course they would!! they’re pathetic. screw the nwo!!!
December 13th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Edjoy74 is there anything in this strange world that does make sense?
December 13th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Conspiracy theorists are ill? How dare this man! The only thing you all norhtamerican peole have to to is to watch at the video where President Kennedy,beloved all over the world,during his last press conference he himself,denounces the secret societies,a week later he was assesinated.
I´ll give you one site but there are lots,where you can prove this is not conspiracy,they are speaking up everything,nobody boders them any more,but….We shall win,Yes sir.God is beside us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zLUANStTAg
subtitulado
December 13th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
That’s good, they can put us all in the happy house, instead of a fema camp in the desert!
December 13th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Tool FTW
December 13th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
blah blahbah….OMG – shut the fuck up already and start the rebellion!!
i am so tired of waiting for you fucking clowns to stand up – you act as if the takeover isnt going to happen or it wont be in your area. it already has, look around this is called the calm before the storm. step up or step off because they are loading up against ALL of us right now!
ohh never mind forget it – just make sure you answer the door naked for now on that way it will be all that much quicker for them to stuff their m16s up your ass !
but thats ok at least you allowed them to get close to your homes by waiting and talking and waiting and talking. good job lil sheep…. now bend over….. nah it wont hurt its a small barrel.
America you are seriously pissing me off!!
i am starting to not want go out fight and give my life for your dumb fucking asses anymore!
if you want your liberty – then go out and fucking get it back fuckers! some gun barrels are already warm – but all should be getting hot!
Patriots can make a difference the mass citizens of America can make THE difference!
December 13th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Quote: “But give that man a Web site template, or let him produce some slick videos on YouTube and, lo and behold, he may have thousands of people across the world supporting him.”
Now, take some deranged nutcase…..does he aquire the following of more than perhaps a handful of likeminded people? Nope….
Now, take someone intelligent, who has either some substanciated evidence, or atleast raises some questionable suspisions as to the actual case of events (example 9/11). It’s not called the TRUTH Movement for nothing, and there aren’t “thousands”….there are MILLIONS of people! People who are tired of the lies our government vomits.
People are hungry and searching for the TRUTH! And they are finding it, and it damn sure isn’t coming from the swillbox called “TV”! People….no REAL AMERICANS are fed-up with the garbage passed-out by mainstream media.
The people of this country DESERVE the truth, and this is just proof why they need to unplug their TVs. MSM is nothing but whores who have sold themselves out to spread the lies in exchange for a check.
December 13th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Hey #62, you said it youself! Your one of those pussy’s that wait’s for someone else to start shit and then hide’s behind him talking like your a bad ass! Hold me back man, hold me back, ya ya ya what a pathetic bitch. Tell us all what you’ve done so far tough guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 13th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Why don’t all of you just fight each other? Oh, wait… you already are. Try using all of your anger and energy to fight the good fight against the system not each other. If we can’t even join together to fight for FREEDOM what chance do we have against THE NWO? It’s about liberty not pissing contests…
December 13th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
I agree about David Icke. The guy mixes truth with completely insane BS that makes all of us look bad.
It’s bad enough that Alex invokes religion to back up some of his theories. Religion has no credibility in the scientific world – particularly outside of countries like the USA or Turkey. That said, 95% of the time Alex does a fantastic job or relaying info with sources. People need to realise though that morals don’t come from religion – if they did, we’d still be stoning people to death.
If we stick to cold, hard evidence we just might have a chance of getting more rational people to see what’s going on.
Check out the YouTube video of AE911 truth’s David Chandler questioning the (squirming) NIST spokesperson – that’s the sort of stuff that makes people sit up and take notice.
December 13th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
If you can’t beat them, join them. I now work for the New World Order. Good luck, you’ll need it.
December 13th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
The tragedy of all this IS if something IS happening to someone, or their rights are be violated, they can be called a quack or conspiracy theorist or whatever. Its just a sad state of affairs when they have to go out of their way to push the topic.
December 13th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Have a look at the comments on the ABC page. Looks like just about everyone is mentally ill these days!
December 13th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Insanity is described as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Any real truther can look at the world and see EVIL. We can blame Zionist, the Federal Reserve, Religion or Government. Seldom do we blame ourselves, for this is where the true fault lies. We can argue to get rid of the Fed, or reform government, but these are not the true solutions. We fought a revolution, and won, without a government. Then we formed a government, we asked for a King. Read 1 Samuel 8, 4-22 in the bible.
If people truly want to be free, then we must govern ourselves. We can NOT keep a record of what others do, so we would have to abolish money. If we could realize that we are all interdependent on each other to survive, and we all just did our best, without judging others there would be such an abundance, and peace. Just try to imagine if tomorrow there was no money but everyone went on doing his or her job. We went grocery shopping and no money changed hands. Greed would be frowned on. If there were no money theft would not exist. I do believe that people are fundamentally good, however when treated as slaves the worst comes out. Money cause us all to compete with one another. If we cannot envision the utopian world we shall never live in it.
Just call me mentally ill.
December 13th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
IS IT A CON-SPIRACY THAT THE WORLD BANKERS JUST TOOK 8 TRILLION DOLLARS FROM THE TAX PAYERS OF THIS GREAT LAND OR JUST MY FUCKING MIND PLAYING TRICKS ON ME AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ABCs part of the con-spriracy I’d much rather here mr Ickes than there bullshit that they call news…At least he’s thinking out of the box …..you better wake up you dumb fucks!!!!!!!!!!when I here a man say pull it and bld.#7 falls faster than abc,s ratings… You might want to take little closer look. WATCH FOR MORE WAR!!!!!!!!BOO————M
December 13th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
David Icke believes lizards run the world… totaly sane for this site though…if you can’t scare ‘em, some science fiction should keep them entertained (and sell some books)
Want to avoid being taken out by the nwo, get a job losers
December 13th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
David Icke is a little far out sometimes , but by and large he is right on !!! The detractors use a
little truth sometimes ( to get the bait op rolling ) but by and large , they take you to the cleaners
pick your choice !!!
December 13th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Well, if ABC is calling me crazy than I know I must be sane. There are too many Goddamn worthless cunts in this world like most at ABC and other corporate media outlets and they should meet the fire.
December 13th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
On the internet the people choose whats big and what isn’t, not ABC or any other mainstream company.
December 13th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
lol..Reality Check..you’re in for a big surprise in the next 2 years..that’s all i’ll say
December 13th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
war-ing, post #71
The mere fact that you find something wrong with the tax payers being robbed of 8 trillion dollars with no accountability means you are mentally ill and paranoid. It proves your ability to trust others has been shattered from some past trauma and that you are suffering with post traumatic syndrome disorder, need counseling and pills to recover, just like those that lost their life savings with Enron. They need to foget they were robbed of their life savings and start saving again and the sooner they start the sooner they will recover and trust the system again. That and as Jesus said, give unto Caesar because this life is totally unimportant when considering the pie in the sky. All that you have been robbed of goes into an account up in heaven and will be yours along with a dozen virgins when you get there, so keep the faith my good brother and let them keep all that blood money. And if they kill you early, don’t worry son, it just means you will get to the promised land that much sooner, haliluia, lets all rejoice cumbya.
Mentally healthy people forget much quicker and that’s why the don’t suffer. So just forget about who has the money, how much they took and how much they will take. Watch more TV and tune into those celebrity games and think of more postive things and what ever you do, don’t study history or read the Constitution, that’s where the real mental illness is, along with the ability to count money. Quit counting your money when you withdraw cash, it’s just a test and it does prove how much you trust the teller and is a good sign that you are getting better. There is so much you can do to recover from your mental problems, try giving away your next weeks entire paycheck to a total strainger and see their face light up with joy and pretty soon you’ll be on your way to being a good citizen like your leaders really want. That and don’t forget to die when you turn 65, so you never become a burden to society.
Now don’t you feel better!!!
December 13th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Conspiracy conjecture or Conspiracy fact?
Who cares if ‘lizard people’ run the planet? They will make great barbecue. Mammals eat reptiles.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
I confess. I am afraid. Afraid of my postal worker yes. That’s why I want survalliance cameras outside on the streets and cops to patrol along the road.
No we’re not paranoid. You, the government is. It’s you who want the total control and Big Brother society! FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!
December 13th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
“. . . There is no such thing in America as an independent press . . . We are the tools and vassals for rich men behind the scenes . . . Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.” John Swinton, former New York Times Chief of Staff
December 13th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
If conspiracy theorists are considered deranged, they can be disarmed. So, the people who are most aware of the threat and better prepared against it, precisely those persons will be made powerless. Hillary Clinton’s mandatory state healthcare plan entails forced mental examinations. According to her minions’ criteria, everyone who distrusts the government is mad. This insistance on classifying political opponents as crazies is Soviet-style oppression.
Pack a gun and pay no taxes.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
“Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America.” he told a fundraising crowd in the Pacific Northwest on Sunday. “Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
Joe Biden
Working on what every president has faced in their first 6 months a president going back to JFK
http://posmedprod.webs.com/presidentialhistory.htm
December 13th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Yeah, we are all listening to the Horse’s ass as opposed to the Horse’s mouth…
WE already know the mainstream media are full of Bullshit.
ABC can kiss my ass and suck my shit.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
count me as one of the mentally ill. Time will prove once and for all who were the real mentally ills in this world. those that thought man was not capable of dark, disgusting deeds and those who actually lived in real time. If not trusting a word that comes out of the elitists and most politicians is being mentally ill………..then I’m admitting it openly today.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
In the future all mentally ill conditions will require virtually everyone to have to take drugs. This is what the government wants to have mandated so that we are all mind controlled drug attics. The controlled media are trying to put all the 9/11 truthers in this category and have us all on drugs. They’re coming to take us away… He He… Ha Ha… Ho Hum… To the funny farm…. That’s what you will hear when they drive up to your house. Sad to say this is more truth than fiction.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
The sky is falling…
December 13th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
I have just discovered a new disease. It’s called “Wereallcomingtogetyoufuckerssoon-Areea”.
It’s a very serious disease and a deadly disease if you have it.
The disease seems to only effect certain types in the population who are in the NWO.
December 13th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Just like in the old Soviet Union…
December 13th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
The powers that be are like parents who abuse and molest their children and when it is discovered [even in the light of clear evidence] they project and displace blame on the innocent child. It really is an amazingly sick dynamic.
Madness is always paranoid they know what they have done and are trying to throw off scrutiny.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Icke is a New Ager who’s teachings are setting people up for a False Christ.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
As I examine the Articles and the Comments that shew no Truth as to the Evil Works that is being brought upon mankind, it saddens my heart. there is a Law Book, that warns a person of the idle Words they speak, will condemn them”. When a person is in danger, and knows not His Enemy, and is being deceived, and is not willing to examine things, then He will perish. Wake Up America! you are in a spiritual War, and the War is about to come to the end. this Nation under Siege by Lucifer and His Evil Workers and will soon set in place His Son of Perdition the WORLD DICTATOR, Who will rule the W.T.O. from TYRE. If you are willing Ignorant, and choose to be blinded by this evil Work then like my old Daddy would tell me when He started to Wip me He” said those that can’t Hear must feel”. This Government and the Religions that lie to the people, are the Works of your Enemy, and if you accept the Works of this Dictator when He is seated, you will be sent to a Tormented hell. You people that don’t believe this just be patient, and you will when you get there. Satan is the Father of Lies. This Bailout is the Biggest lie of all. This Enemy did the same lie in 1933. I was there and I am 80 yrs old, and I will never forget it. I had a man tell me years ago,” young man why don’t you get your dam Mind open”. then the next thing He said was Your business and mine are in danger. I have been studying ever since. Yes with out Knowledge and understanding a person is in danger. You are guided by your Mind. Most people would rather believe a lie rather than the TRUTH. We are here. The Religions the TV Anchors and the Government are all guided by the Father of Lies. Wake up America! A Servant of the God of Israel. joedr@theriver.com
December 13th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Well, to tell the truth…
We get sort of embarrassed when Alex has
David Icke on the show as a legitimate guest.
He has done a good job in the interviews, but
what about the goofy stuff he has been into?
Perhaps it’s all lies. It would help if Icke took
a few minutes to put the idea to rest that he’s
a New-Age crystal-gazer.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Fuck ABC news, we don’t trust controlled corporate media. Not to brag but I have a 130 IQ and it seems to me that I can notice when the news conjures something up after certain events. Maybe not, maybe they are just full of shit.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
4 very large segments of AUTOMATONS exist in this country which will make it difficult for love to prevail:
1) government employees (state, city and federal);
2) people related to the above;
3) People hoping to be government employees;
4) people who live off the government.
things can’t improve unless you decrease government (hatred/lies) and increase the other side (love/truth)
from the bewilderness- thanks for coming!
James Mansfield
December 14th, 2008 at 12:01 am
I’m going to go ahead and agree with this. When I read a shit-ton of comments from people who seem to think anyone in power is automatically corrupted. Every person on the school board is corrupt, every member of any police department is corrupt, any government worker is corrupt, strange people who spew antisemitic speech at you are really federal agents trying to either initiate you or get you arrested/killed/put away. Every single person who is not for the “truth” movement is being paid off, or has some NWO agenda they are working toward, or are just in denial. Seems to me you people are in denial that it is possible for a good person to be in power. You always give “truthers” the benefit of the doubt, and doubt the benefit of anything else. You claim to have open eyes, but they are only half way there..Half of the headlines for articles on this site SOUND bad, then when you actually read them, there is nothing wrong with what is going on. Just feeds your paranoia, and gives the paranoia room to grow, thats all. I’ve always wondered why Alex Jones sells his exposing dvds at 20$ each. That’s pretty expensive for low budget films. But with such a small market, you gotta do something to make money.
December 14th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Hey Huck, I’m mentally ill so please refrain from using the plural “we” in your personal judgement of Icke. I have read all of his books and look forward to listening to AJ whenever Icke is scheduled.
Aside from the lizard connection, which I admit, is an acquired taste, he writes and details the same things as AJ. Ever read a book by Icke? There are many. What about a book from AJ? Whoops, I guess no because there are none!!
December 14th, 2008 at 12:19 am
well i must be insane
December 14th, 2008 at 12:24 am
David Icke may believe some things that I cannot either prove nor disprove due to the fact that I work for a living. Just because some of his beliefs seem hard to believe, I’ve seen the evidence that MUCH of what he says is right.
The people that are forming the new world order/One World Government/sytem of the antichrist, are the main proponents of the concept that says that Icke is wrong about everything just because some of his contentions are hard to swallow.
Personally, my journey to increased wisdom and knowledge BEGAN when I learned to explore many diverse sources of information-even if these sources had portions that I questioned or even filed for later research or even disgarded.
Reading a David Icke book began my journey that led me to Alex Jones. It helped me to realize that Pacifica liberal radio was only providing me a little more of the story than mainstream radio and led me down the path of 911 (and other) truth.
The journey continues daily and I am always open to new evidence. Alex encourages me to research the truth for myself and I am a big enough boy not to be threatened by information that may not fit my situation 100%. I hope that (#92) “huck” may one day be able to break his mental chains enough to be able to say the same thing.
December 14th, 2008 at 12:44 am
Early 90s =?
90, 91, 92, 93?
“Decades later…” ???
2008-1990=18
Decade = 10
18 = 1.8 decades
Well written LAUREN COX!
December 14th, 2008 at 12:57 am
We are not crazy, we are just educated. We read. God forbid, to quote Bill Hicks comedy ,” Looks like we got ourselves a reader here” . I am reader and thanks to Alex Jones and David Icke a lot more of a thinker than I used to be. I woke up. Maybe the people at ABC need to wake up. Conspiracy facts make up most conspiracies. So I guess to call someone crazy for knowing the truth or facts, then call me crazy. 911 was an inside job and I believe Kennedy was killed and that was another inside job. I think the lone gunman theory sounds like garbage. I think what ABC means is that they dont want you to talk about politically incorrect theories because someone might get offended and then wake up to the truth. I say that ABC reports like that are garbage. Everyone that is reading this post on this site is more awake then most of the people in the world because to come here you had to try to be finding truth. And thus here we are. Alex is awesome.
December 14th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Send this to every news outlet you can as this proves who are insaine(our LEADERS)
watch this two how Peer reviewed power point presintation for the facts
http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
December 14th, 2008 at 1:08 am
Hey toodleooooo! is the dumb ass who wrote this article your cousin or what? I must be nuts like millions of other truthers. How come so many successful and intelligent people are questioning 911?
We all know soon enough if the so-called conspiracy plays out in 2009 with some serious facts as the past has.
It amazes me how many government controlled minds (TROLLS) come on this site and try to debunk the TRUTH! If there wasn’t some serious shit coming down, then why worry about Alex Jones and all the millions who frequent this site? If heat is to hot in the kitchen, get the f–k out!
December 14th, 2008 at 1:25 am
I am not a brilliant man but I am superior to the apes that are politicians. As our newly elected president (thanks part to AFRICOM) is sworn into the Clinton office I foresee a catastrophic event forthcoming in the southern U.S. We are about to enter the year 2009, the last year of the U.S. dollar before it is converted to the Amero, if you haven’t noticed the finicial collapse of virtually everything. When Hurricane Katrina occurred FEMA had a limited response plan, since 1991 they had 5000,000-1,000,000 FEMA coffins stored in Madison, GA for such an event but failed to use due to an event which would utilize at least 90% of their assets (cofffins). Atlanta is an intersting city, not only the proposed site of the capital of the NAU (North American Union/Community) but also a place where you have the busiest U.S. airport, CNN headquarters, and the Center for Disease Control HQ. So for all you all think conspiracy is out there here’s a scenerio for you. A “dirty bomb” is detonated at Atlanta Hartsfield Int’l and anywhere between 100K and 300K Atlantians are killed (mostly African American) just like Katrina on a lesser scale which will immediately cause a buildup of the Army’s brigades to take to the streets and plunge us into a war with Iran (thanks Mossad). Thank god for the Mumbai false flag, now the DoD can stomp it’s way thru Pakistan for it’s goal of conquering Central Eurasia, effin idiots. Like oil actually is useful anymore…hey America keep brushing with Flouride and watching Britney Spears titties sag further…I love America, cameras, martial law, flouride, federal income tax, gun laws, coded ammunition, corporate bailouts, politicians that are so fucking ignorant they need another hand to wipe their ass…a hand that the ignorant public pays for, beer tax, gas tax, ass tax, wheel of fortune tax, I haven’t paid my taxes tax. Pray for softness America, there’s a large black rubber cock coming so bend over. Mmmm Bitch.
December 14th, 2008 at 1:28 am
#64 i am already organizing people my shit is packed and my stock is full i am moving against the machine with or without your punk ass and i have been – so shut the fuck up clown boy there is no hold me back i am involved already what are you doing to help?? nothing i figured that much. gimme your email and contact # we see if you are for real or all mouth bitch
December 14th, 2008 at 1:31 am
I’m not talking about people questioning 911, I’m talking about people who think that they know beyond any doubt that 911 was an inside job. I’m talking about the people who come here, read articles, then connect the dots in their own little way, which the evidence doesn’t support 90% of the time. Lots of the people here are the same sheep they say anyone else is. Just a different shepherd. How come lots of successful and intelligent people dont believe that 911 was an inside job? my physics professor being one of them. See, I can flip that around too. See there you go, my mind must be government controlled because I don’t agree with you. That’s just a cop out, and everyone here uses it. What about the 911 video on here that “proved” that the tower 7 collapse hit newswires before it happened? Turned out the footage was broadcast about 6 minutes AFTER the collapse. Simple research by the poster of the article would have shown this, but nah, don’t want to look too far into things..They might not turn out how you wanted. At least the video was deleted a few hours after it was debunked in comments (was there any other option?). But it sure makes me wonder how much shit goes up on this site without being researched for you all to eat up. No, I’m not a troll, just a concerned human being
December 14th, 2008 at 1:37 am
#64 – never mind i just realized your probably an agent tabbing any of us who speak hard-
sorry for wasting the space brothers – this guy caught me off guard and i played right into his demonic hands.
sorry evryone – #64 fuck you !!
December 14th, 2008 at 1:39 am
FLOOD THE GATES OF ABC STUDIO AND NEWS ROOM WITH COMMENTS OF WHAT THEY SAID TO ICKE AND ALL OF US WHO ARE TELLING THE TRUTH, ‘IF NOT THE PEOPLE WOULD REALLY BE IN A SPIRITUAL SLUMBER RIGHT WHERE THEY WANT US’. i MEAN REALLY HARASS THOSE BASTARDS AT ABC UNTIL THEY GET THE PICTURE.
December 14th, 2008 at 4:45 am
Do your self a favor # 105 and take your own advice((check the facts out)).
Spend the time to look at the math and the EVIDENCE—>PHYSICS DON’T LIE
http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
December 14th, 2008 at 6:43 am
Everybody, go leave comments on this article on ABC’s site!!! It’s already filled with truthers!! People are pissed! Time to tear this little media whore a new one! Let’s spread this shit, let’s turn the tables on these corporate media whores!
December 14th, 2008 at 9:18 am
After reading the article yesterday, I went to the shrink and told him I wasn’t sure what to think of it.
He quickly diagnosed me with a split personality and charged me seventy-five bucks!
On the way out the door, I gave him $37.50 and told him to get the rest from the other guy.
Now why in the world would the MSM want any one of us to be able to form our own opinion? I wonder. They couldn’t possibly have a motive! I mean, what’s more entertaining than the volume on your TV set increasing as they shove advertisements down your throat from their corporate sponsors?
If you don’t feel they’re trying to control what you think you’re delusional. Let’s see even one of them actually inform the public how things really are, for instance…Tell the brain-dead masses how the Federal Reserve is as much a part of theirl Government as Federal Express! Tell them how it’s a private institution and answers to nobody. I bet more people would claim to have been abducted by a UFO than actually know this little fact.
If someone thinks there are aliens in their pancakes, the good folks here would probably help them investigate only to find out it was a blueberry. If the MSM tells you that mercury in vaccines is good for your children, who’s going to help you ask the right questions to figure it out.
I’d much rather spend three hours watching David Icke, Loose Change, or reading CT forums than waste my time getting brainwashed by the likes of them.
To show them I’m a good sport though, I’ll make them a deal. If they can show me WHERE THE SKY ENDS, or WHEN TIME BEGAN, I’ll stand in line with my mouth open and swallow whatever they feed me as the last word.
Peace
December 14th, 2008 at 11:10 am
David Ike gives 9/11 Truth a bad name. Lizard people?
The guy is fucking insane as is anyone who believes such shit.
December 14th, 2008 at 11:38 am
David Icke has travelled to over 35 different countries and read countless texts in order to shed light on the NWO agenda. He does not admit to being a genius or “know it all”, however he does admit to caring about people and using all of his efforts to interpret the many pieces that have been strewn about throughtout the ages. Bottom Line: David Icke has helped thousands and you should at least study his work before passing any judgement.
December 14th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Columbus was thought to be insane by many. History proves he was a visionary. David Icke may or may not be correct, when he speaks of reptilians, but we cannot disprove his ideas by simply calling him insane. To do so only demonstrates our own ignorance.
December 14th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
Guess Im a mental case 2 then….woo hoo! ahhhhhhh! help me! their is no goverment, their is no nwo, their is no nothing just beer and cool shows on TV,,,, yayyy! hip hip hooray!
December 14th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
To the Lot of Tools over here,
U WILL NEED A LOT OF TIME & RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND WHERE DAVID ICKE IS COMING FROM…. HE IS THE GURU OF “CONSPIRACY” FACTS.
JUST LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE DISMISS U AS A 9/11 NUT… WELL SAME WAY, DAVID ICKE & HIS FOLLOWERS APPEAR AS NUTS TO THE “CONSPIRACY TRUTHERS”… BECAUSE THEY DON’T KNOW CH!T ABOUT THE REAL TRUTH!
SO YOUR RESEARCH & HOMEWORK BEFORE U SPEAK ABOUT DAVID ICKE… HERE GIVE U A PAGE FOR REFERENCE (ONE OF THE BEST ONES OUT THERE)-
http://www.dark-truth.org/videos.html
EVERYTHING U EVER NEEDED TO KNOW….
December 14th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
JUST LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE DISMISS U AS A 9/11 NUT… WELL SAME WAY, DAVID ICKE & HIS FOLLOWERS APPEAR AS NUTS EVEN TO THE “CONSPIRACY TRUTHERS”… BECAUSE THEY DON’T KNOW JACK @SS ABOUT THE REAL TRUTH!
DO YOUR RESEARCH & HOMEWORK BEFORE U SPEAK ABOUT DAVID ICKE… HERE GIVE U A PAGE FOR REFERENCE (ONE OF THE BEST ONES OUT THERE)-
http://www.dark-truth.org/videos.html
EVERYTHING U EVER NEEDED TO KNOW….
December 14th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Only whackjobs who want to believe in whackjob nonsense join the cult of Lizard King Icke. I’ve read a couple of his books and he only proves that anyone with some smarts and time on their hands can compile a bunch of facts and history related to conspiracies and the NWO etc. which he does well, obviously taking it mostly from other’s research and various sources and changing phrasology etc. to make it ‘his own’, and then lacing over it the New Agey crapola about “vibrational” this/that whatever and lacing over it with the poison that the world’s leaders are “replitian”. It’s like rat poison, a lot of food (truth) but that little bit of poison effectively destroys you. I say take the wheat and leave the chaff- assuming you have the discernment to pick them apart. many don’t. I made the same caveat about William Cooper years ago. He was an honest and caring man and did well in making me understand the Illuminati etc. but I ignored all the junk about aliens and put up with his bull$h!+ about supposedly meeting McVeigh and ‘John Doe #2″ before the OK City bombing, which he didn’t suddenly reveal until a few years after the bombing.
December 14th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
David Icke,is just reporting what he has discoverd,to me the real wackos are christians,believe in that fairy tale,if you have a belief system implanted in your mind at young age,that belief system will allways defand itself and edit out all other information to fit the belief system.i can see why mind controlled zombies enslaved by a corrupt belief system find it difficult to open there inprisoned minds to other consepts.thats why im getting out of this fd up country.
December 14th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Good to see david ickes name out in the mainstream media,alot of slaves will look him up and discover the truth,there no such thing as bad publicity.David icke is comming back to LA CA,I cant wait.ill be first in line.
December 14th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
William Morgan -American Hero Says, you r a complete ignoramous moron that has no clue whats really going down, shut your c0$k garage!
December 14th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Please join us at Federal Plaza in Manhattan on Monday December 15,2008 where we will be picketing to protest all the conspiracy prosecutions being carried out by the federal government each and every day.We will also be distributing FREE copies of the Urantia Book,a $75.00 value,first come first serviced.We feel that a true understanding of this book can lead to being a 9/11 truther,as it did for us.Ralph Schoenman will be on hand to add his laborious stylings to the festivities.That’s at 12 noon.
December 14th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Ignorance is Bliss.
If you dont get David Icke its because you are ignorant.
Enjoy your bliss ABC.
But remember that when you play with fire you get burnt and the Liazrds give even less of a fuck about you because they know you have no honor on top of the fact that you are human scum.
December 14th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
This article, with the many comments that it has already generated, is the epitome of bad publicity being better than no publicity. “d’oh!
December 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Wooooha!!!!!!!!!!
December 14th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
I left 2 different comments on this sight, and both have been deleted. There are a few others
who have also. I guess ABC doesn’t want to hear the truth.
Yes, I did abide by the rules which they set. So much for the
freedom of speech.
December 14th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
man oh man, some of you are pathetic. look were all in this together, knock their teeth out in the first round by the 12th they shud look like a living corpse, PUNISH THE NWO!
December 14th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
I’m sure there are more than enough people that know the truth by now. David Icke and many others like him have been attempting to send the same message over and over in many different flavors to get the disconnect mind back intact. There’s no need to make an ordeal out of it. Don’t shoot the messenger just because you’re displeased with the message. There’s always been a hidden message in his writings anyways and if your not wired to ingest it, you won’t.
I truly believe there are a few that will change the course of where we are heading. There are a few that will take the blows to be heard and Dave Icke is one of them. However, his presentation or in which way he chooses to get the word out during this very powerfully solar change…his message cannot be denied. We are creating everything around us with our thoughts, feelings and perceptions through our behaviors. If you don’t like what you see, think, feel, smell…whatever…change it. If you don’t, you may not like what you’ll undoubtedly endure while living life on this living organism we are just too stupid to understand.
War and tragedy always seems to make things pretty crystal clear. It turns people back to their hearts where the focus was always meant to be in the first place. Focus on this government suceeding, not failing. Focus on working together instead of relying on someone outside yourself to take care of you without a price tag. You may feel disgusted by it all, but don’t lose your minds. Stay focused on what truly matters, regardless of what distractions surround you.
This time was predicted due to the date on the note. Period. There’s nothing astronomical about it. The time is up and the snakes are coming to feast. It’s just amazing what people do for money. Isn’t it?
December 14th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Only someone who’s mentally ill would sit back and claim this EVIDENCE doesn’t exsist:
http://intwain.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/382/
December 14th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
ITS DAVID ICKES FAULT! we all know the illuminatti are’nt real lizards! I knew they were going to throw that in our faces.. how the heck does that man say so many right things, then screw it up by calling people lizards.. get real!
December 14th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
David Icke is the worst thing that ever happened to the Patriot/Liberty movement. He discredits everything we say by taking what we say, the truth, and dumping that lizard people crap on top of it. To the uninformed yearning for the truth, Icke’s crap is too much and makes us all look like nuts.
December 14th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
The only problem with Icke is the lizard people stuff. ABC News and the debunkers use it to discredit us. Icke has a very good video which I recently discovered called Big Brother, the Big Picture (July 6th 2008) but I rarely recommend it because anyone who watches it and then hears he is associted with the Lizard People theory will think I’m nuts! If Icke has concrete evidence of these lizard people, then show it to the world, otherwise I wish he would just not mention it.
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
December 14th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
If someone says that David Icke is a looney. Then i have to ask a question, DO YOU THINK THAT WE ARE ALONE IN THE UNIVERSE? if you think straight and have a little bit of common sense, you would NO WE ARE NOT ALONE. So, The next question would be, THEN HOW DID WE COME ABOUT POPULATING THE WORLD? HOW COME WE HAVE BLACK, WHITE, ASIAN, and other different species of human beings. A white man will NEVER be black. A black man will never be white. Except Michael Jackson, lol, but he still black. So, the question is, why so? Why a black man will never be white and black man will never be white. It is clear understand that WE WERE GENETICALLY MODIFIED. The other question is, BY WHOM?…even in the bible it says LET US CREATE MAN IN OUR IMAGE. What does that mean US? I think there is only ONE God. So, why US?
What I just mentioned is just a glance on the questions that common man does not bother to ask. They just want to stick on their religions. But sooner or later, it will be shown to all, that religion is THE OPIUM OF THE MASSES. Just another way to PUT us to sleep. It is time for us to wake up and start asking questions. Serious questions. So, do not say that ICKE IS CRAZY. But let ’s ask serious questions as ICKE and Jordan Maxwell and Tsarion Michael have been done for years.
December 14th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
WOH!!!
Jim Morrison wrote a poem called “The Celebration of the Lizard” that first apeared on the sleve of The Doors’ album “Waiting For The Sun.” The poem contained the line: “I am the Lizard King, I can do anything.” Fans thought Morrison was refering to himself instead of another persona who Morrison created as the fictional author. The nickname stuck, and, after a while, the band added music and the poem was performed several times live.
The mythical Lizard King, Morrison’s alter ego, appeared first in the best-selling record Waiting for the Sun (1968) in a poem that was printed inside the record jacked. It was entitled ‘The Celebration of the Lizard King’. Part of the lyrics were used in ‘Not to Touch the Earth’ and the complete ‘Celebration’ appeared on record Absolutely Live (1970).
December 14th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
I support & appreciate David Icke. I believe David’s work is brilliant & his research does reveal the truth. I commend & applaud David for courageously speaking out & for all of his efforts in creating the awareness we need to wake up & empower ourselves to stop the insanity. I found it interesting that the article also ridiculed the belief in the existence of gang stalking since this is an organized method utilized to discredit, weaken & destroy the people speaking out against the conspiracy. David has talked about the smear campaign & ridicule he has been subjected to & this campaign is a tactic used by organized gang stalking amongst many other methods designed to destroy & bring about suffering. These gang stalking organizations will help to bring about the facist state & they employ all walks of life so yes it could be your neighbor, your mailman etc.
…….I also posted this on ABC comment
December 15th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Very good posts #131, #132, #133. I agree with each of you.
The way the history of Earth and the various races of humans are presented to us by the scientific and religious institutions makes no sense at all. Not even a little bit.
I think there are small bits and pieces of truth skattered around here and there in both those institutions but it’s much like the bs right-left scam. A little truth mostly lies.
December 15th, 2008 at 1:21 am
The fact that ABC News which is owned by Walt Disney, states that people who believe in conspiracies are “mentally ill” tells me they are engaged in a serious propaganda effort!!! Who are they to decide what is crazy or not ?! All people should be free to ask questions of the government and think for themselves!!! After all, we in the U.S. should be able to fully exercise our 1st Amendment rights!!! I also believe that if the media or so-called “free press” were truly doing it’s job of being a watchdog of the governmet by asking politicans tough questions and covering real issues (not “fluff” stories) citizens wouldn’t have to turn to alternative sources of information such as the internet. As for David Icke, I happen to agree with many of subjects he talks about in his books (such as “The Biggest Secret”-1999 and “Children of the Matrix”-2001)
and documentries. This includes the existence of Shape-Shifting Reptilians. This is because I think David Icke has stumbled onto something most people would dismiss as something out of a Sci-Fi
horror film. But, the TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICITION!!!! I believe with Mr. Icke not even knowing it, his discovery reveals what the bible says in Ephesians chapter 6:12 “For we wrestle not
against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Also, Daniel 2:43 “….they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men…” The bible also states that Satan is called that SERPENT, or DRAGON which are both REPTILIAN creatures. These shape-shifting lizards are in league with the LUCIFER and his army of FALLEN ANGELS. I know David Icke is not a Christian, but that doesn’t mean his information about these demonic beings isn’t useful. As far as I’m concerned the debunkers, skeptics, secular humanists and athetists are nothing more than modern-day SADDUCEES the category of people who at the time of Christ that didn’t believe in angels, spirits, or anything supernatural. Or part of a conspiracy to cover-up the truth!!!!
December 15th, 2008 at 1:29 am
I have a mental illness and I know personally what a delusion is and what it is not.
When I was acutely ill (I’m on medication and doing fine now), I had delusions about being Jesus and alternatively, the Devil. I also would watch TV and think that the message was personally meant for me, plus other delusions.
Conspiracy theories are not delusions (excluding the lizard people stuff).
The mainstream does not like to debate them logically, so they throw them in with mental illness to try to discredit it.
December 15th, 2008 at 1:32 am
google ‘project bluebeam’
i dont believe in aliens, but i believe in worldwide hoaxes
December 15th, 2008 at 7:33 am
First of all, Grady, thanks for your service! You sound like a vet who remembers his oath to the Constitution. Maybe we can get all the vets to remember it.
Paul, I too have seen David Icke’s “Big Brother: The Big Picture” and he doesn’t mention the lizard people at all, so recommend it without reservation. The information needs to get out.
As far as the lizard people are concerned, it doesn’t matter if they are really lizards or if the whole idea is a metaphor. Either way, we are dealing with some frigid cold-blooded people in the power elite. I’ve heard MANY make the point that these vermin/parasites lack empathy, lack compassion, lack love AND lack creativity. We must all be seeing the same thing. How can I put it? If it walks like a lizard and it talks like a lizard, then either literally or figuratively, it’s a f***ing lizard.
Similarly, and this will not be appreciated by all, it doesn’t really matter whether Jesus was a real person or not. What’s important is his MESSAGE (the parts of it that have survived without being co-opted by medieval political establishments): Do unto others as you would have them do unto you; Love thy neighbor; Love ye one another; Forgive; walk a mile in the other guy’s shoes before you judge him; kick some moneychanger ass whenever possible. Basically, be a good person and don’t be a dick.
All religions seem to have these same core principles because these core principles are the truth. All religions (at least in part) get co-opted by political establishments. Stephen King says “It’s not the teller, it’s the tale” and I think he’s right. If you are religious, learn to recognize the taint of politics in it so it doesn’t contaminate the parts that are true. I shall cease rambling.
December 15th, 2008 at 9:25 am
I always say that lizard stories and all the fairy tales about how there were no planes hitting WTC on 9/11 will get those people absolutely nowhere. In fact, that absurd mumbo jumbo will be picked up by the mainstream media and presented to the public with an appropriate dose of ridicule.
As you know, the majority of population are completely ignorant mental weaklings who would still have been in the Middle Ages if other people hadn’t do things for them. Thus, those mental weaklings will be very fond of such ridicule because that’s what is psychologically satisfying to them in opposite to a meaningful debate. After all, the general public is intellectually disgusting and their brains work with really simple patterns on a very low level. The media propagandists know this very well and they use this knowledge with full efficiency. They’ll always use the most absurd stories, attach a very powerful psychological stigma of “conspiracy theory” to them which in weaklings’ minds will automatically mean that anyone who seeks the truth (and provides evidence!) and is in opposition to the mainstream media weapons of mass disinformation is in fact a conspiracy theorists and believes in lizards piloting flying saucers. They do it all the times and it always work. I’ve seen it in different media in many countries. Once I wondered if that crowd is put out there on purpose to sabotage the dissidents. Now I know that people are really that dumb to create such nonsense on their own and spread it everywhere, so they don’t even
need to be infiltrated by the feds.
Even Carroll Quigley admits in his book “Tragedy and Hope” that he was sent to corporate media to discredit truthers and anti-globalists.
All in all, those mental midgets worshiping the plastic talking heads in the media will be had again and again, and the vast majority of them will never use their brains to things more complicated than buying a burger. They’ll just reaffirm their illusion of happiness in the matrix and automatically reject anything that might reveal painful truth about themselves and the world.
The media and social engineers know very well that the sheeple will never want to check what all those labeled as “conspiracy nuts” actually have to say, apart from the no-planes and other nonsense.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Peace and blessings unto all.
There can be no doubt that there will be further stories about and/or outright movements against those labeled as “conspiracy theorists” in the coming years. Just how far these attacks will go is the real question. It is very clear that today’s MSM has no use for any “news” or truth that will not further their standing within the existing oligarchic corptocracy. Such realization is simply a microcosmic snapshot of the real plague that has humanity besieged in the modern world as those who seek the truth are labeled as “ill” while those who propagate lies of propaganda are not only “well” but are rewarded for engaging in their dutiful obligation to the establishment. Does Orwell’s “minitruth” sound familiar to anyone here? But discouragingly as I have said many times, the reason that so many lies can be spread as truth by the MSM is the fact that the populace simply accepts the spoon-feed pablum and does not question the source. The greatest hurdle to the masses understanding the lies around them and thus gaining a greater sense of human existence is the lack of any real desire by the masses themselves to do anything other than swallow the “blue pill” on the spoon. Thus the indoctrinal programming is complete.
Pray for mercy. Read, understand, and seek the truth at all costs….http://www.subversivearchitect.com/
December 20th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
I contacted ABC news early on about the WMD’s in Iraq. I had been stationed there in the Gulf War and knew much about Sadamm and his tactics. I knew that Iraq never had WMD’s like the US military and feds were promoting. I may have had evidence that would show they did not at the time currently possess WMD’s. Guess what ABC said to me? They said I was mentally ill because of my army tour and that I was a conspiracy theorist?!!!! They also said I had an unspoken agreement with my country not to bring up such matters. Now we find out that the WMD’s and our invasion was based on “bad intelligence”. So, who’s mentally ill now ABC?
December 24th, 2008 at 7:10 am
I’m so disappointed that you totally slam David Icke….. I’m telling you Alex— I love to listen to you and agree with most of what you say…but to keep me listening… you need to be more like George and Art …. you only make yourself look petty by dogging on people with different ideas..