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Abortion vote today could decide fate of heath plan
Susan Ferrechio
Washington Examiner
December 7, 2009
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said the chamber would take up an amendment by Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., that would strictly prohibit taxpayer money from being spent on abortion.
“I want to get it out of the way,” Reid said. “I think we all do.”
But the amendment could ultimately stand in the way of the bill’s final passage, no matter what the outcome of the Monday vote.
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December 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Oh OK, so that what decides on health care.
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Baaaah Baaaaaahh !!!!!!
EU-Lex Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Anyone pro-death or anti-life here? You see it doesn’t sound too good, but TV never says it like this.
FreedomLover Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
That’s true. It’s always soft-soaped, called something “nice”. Abortion is murder. God created life and it’s HIS decision when it ends. We really screwed ourselves over anyways. We aborted 50M taxpayers who would have helped fund social security and taken care of the baby boomers. How could we expect to get away with murder?
America is under God’s judgment right now. As a nation, we got the kind of government we deserved, and good people will suffer right alongside the murderers. Edmund Burke said “the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.” Too many people stood by and allowed the most vulnerable among us to be murdered and hardly said a word. It’s coming back to haunt us.
Shanghai Spike Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Here we go again with this “WE” stuff.
“WE really screwed ourselves over…” “WE got the gov’t WE deserve…”
No matter what Edmund Burke said, GOD says IF HE CAN FIND A FEW
RIGHTEOUS HE WILL SPARE THE NATION.
When they were debating the abortion bills the GOOD folks of America
who HATE killing unborn children did EVERYTHING we could short of
literally DRAGGING those who were in favor of mass-murdering millions
of unborn Americans out of their cloistered courthouses and capitol
buildings and STONING THEM IN THE STREET.
WHO “hardly said a word”?! We shouted to high heaven and raised
hell in newspapers, bullhorned meetings and held rallys. Just because
the “press” didn’t cover it and YOU weren’t there doesn’t mean “nobody
did anything”. THE MURDERERS PASSED THE KILLING BILLS ANYWAY,
just like OBONGO the FINK LIAR was INSTALLED as “president” ANYWAY.
There are multiplied MILLIONS of kind, good-hearted people in America
who would GIVE THEIR OWN LIVES to save a BABY if necessary. Notice
I wrote “BABY”. ITS A BABY, NOT A “FETUS”! And its called “PRO-DEATH”,
not “pro choice”! So if you wish to use the word “WE”, DON’T DARE
INCLUDE the millions of us who TRIED LIKE HELL to STOP THE MURDER!
rob Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Debunk This! 007 ( Human Experimentation )
http://www.spywitnessnews.org/.....imentation
FreedomLover Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Shanghai, you’re right and I stand corrected. Maybe I should have said “they”, the ones who screamed louder that no one had the right to legislate what happens in a woman’s womb.
We happen to be posting on a website where not everyone agrees with what God says. Of course, they will answer to Him.
You’re also right in that it doesn’t matter how loud we scream, those in power are bullies. Bullies don’t understand anything but force. The only way to stop a bully is for someone bigger to come along and stomp their arse. Even so, come Lord Jesus. He’s the only one with more power than the EE (elite eugenicists).
Resist Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Your right, a 15 year rape vitim should have the baby.
MEAT Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Well sure there resist if she want’s a kid that looks like Buck Wheat.
nhluck Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
THEIR ALL MORONS….TOO BAD THEIR MOM’S CHOSE LIFE
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
No, [SATAN] deicided on ['HELLTHCARE']- as an end-around the monetary prophecies…
While most purported Christians, are looking for a ‘mark’- they will willingly accept ['HELLTHCARE'].
Rather than trusting in the Lord, they would believe a lie…
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[BAA, BAA, BAA]
Hopeful Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
They don’t realize knowledge is the key (knowledge of the bible). Key of David. They think there is an actual mark.
Sovereignty Soldier Reply:
December 8th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
The simple solution is not to believe ANYTHING these dragons speak. Nothing they do is for good, it is all duplicitous. RFID chips, national healthcare, vaccines, these all can be a form of the mark. The sytem is the beast and the mark will be a mark of loyalty to the system. The man who was hired to develop the RFID implantable is on record(video) as saying they wanted to know where in the body temperatures were hottest or fluctuated most, I cannot recall right now. The answer was the forehead or the back of the hand. Since most people are right handed they settled on the right hand. I have seen this video some months back and it is on youtube. The point is all anyone needs to know to avoid deception is that if it deviates from scripture it is a lie, put your faith in the Word of God and NOT in the words of men. God Bless all the patriots and saints!
Gulfwarvet Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Harry reid today compared opponents of Health Care Reform to Supporters of Slavery.
And here i am thinking over taxation was equal to slavery, I am glad that there is always a Lawyer Politician out there that can help me see the light.
December 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
leave health care alone
FreedomLover Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Aah, but they won’t. They will use it to depopulate America as they are trying to depopulate the rest of the world. Take charge of our own health care. Eat as healthy as we can, take our supplements, and quit relying on big pharma’s poisons. Fear keeps us taking their patented poison instead of looking to natural healthy alternatives that God put on this planet to help us.
December 7th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
2′nd
December 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Join the American Militia http://msmilitia.ning.com/ we have Militia in all 50 states!
Gary Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
UNDER CONSTRUCTION!
December 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Discusting so few people get to make this choice for everyone else>Not acceptable to me.Get the heck out of our lives and let us make our own choice…thank you
Barry Soetoro's Slave Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
That weirdo in Germany who kept his daughters locked up in his basement and had kids with them probably said the same thing.
Hi I'm Angelica the whore baby killer, I'll be burning in hell when I die...thank you Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Yes, let me murder innocent babies as I wish because I am a whore who can’t stop f---ingcock!!!
You should be late termed you whore!!!!!
YOU ARE DISGUSTING ANGELICA!!!!
Resist Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
What a stupid thing to say. You’re a fool.
go to hell angelica Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
I SHOULD NOT have to pay for your f---fest and murderfest of innocent children….NEVER!!!
Resist Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I guess you’re not community minded.
Ready To Puke Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Angelica, it’s not about if you can have the “choice” or not, it’s what the choice is. If the questions is a complete sentence “Should woman have the right to kill their children?” then the answer should be no. If the quesiton is “Should woman have the right to choose their careers?” then of couse the answer is yes.
It’s not about if you can chose or not, it’s if you can death. But hey, I’m a life-loving minority apparantly. You can always get a job with the UN working on population control. Then when all the babies are dead, you can go after veterans and Ron Paul supporters. Then when we’re all gone, you find that the nWo will turn on you.
December 7th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
[Al Gwhore and Co] The criminal banking cartel EXPOSED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrRusZOx3l4
Hi I'm Angelica the whore baby killer, I'll be burning in hell when I die...thank you Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
JJ? Why such a short comment??? I feel unloved
December 7th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says take over of health care opponents are supporters slavery
Come Reid the story, comment and if you feel so compelled register to be a contributor on my news site and lets cover the news and blow holes in the NWO everyday!
Please Go To: http://www.TransparentAmerica.com
December 7th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Just quickly here, the title of this needs to be corrected to read “Abortion vote today could decide fate of health plan”
Sorry just thought I’d point this out. God bless all of you infowarriors and keep God close in your heart.
December 7th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
the abortion deal is a lost leader item just to get the idea across that the scumocrats are giving in…..what BS
these bastards should be exiled to a leper colony until their noses fall off……
December 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
God almighty. Help us all.
December 7th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
I’m surprised in this day and age that there aren’t OTC Cervical Snake Kits for the 1st Tri-mester!!! Silly me…it’s called a coat hanger!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
December 7th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Our computer fraud elected non representatives are all dangerously insane. they need to be rounded up and locked up in padded rooms. YOU AREN’T A BUSINESS, YOU MAKE NO MONEY, YOU ARE NOT A COMPONENT OF GDP, YOUR FIRST JOB IS THE PROTECTION OF THE LIBERTIES OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY, YOUR SECOND JOB IS PROTECTING THE COUNTRY FROM ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, YOUR RESPONSIBLE FOR COINING MONEY, NOT RELINQUISHING THIS DUTY TO A PRIVATE FOR PROFIT CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION. ARTICLE 1 SECTION 8…READ IT.
If you have some questions as to the criminals that run the state of Nebraska ( Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson voted down Senators DeMints audit the FED proposal) Watch “Conspiracy of Silence” By former Nebraska state senator John DeCamp…I don’t know whether or not Ben Nelson was involve but about 12 of these people who were kidnapped children made to perform sex acts with and on public officials identified Ex Nebraska Senator Bob Kerrey and George HW Bush as people who forced these kids into sexual depravity. Some of these kids were flown to what some believe to be Bohemian Grove where they were raped and afterward some were murdered on the spot.
Ex Senator, Ex decorated Vietnam veteran marine and attorney John DeCamp was their counsel and is still fighting for justice for these people. Some of these kids were sent to prison by these demonic state officials rather than let them testify in their own defenses because of the people it would implicate. “The Franklin Cover-Up” Franklin Credit Union in Omaha Nebraska. Larry King owned it, ex GOP kingpin, part of the Craig Spense (Spense committed suicide supposedly) call boys at the White House Scandal, more than scandal, kidnapping, raping and then murdering children… THIS IS THE WORLD WE’RE LIVING IN PEOPLE.
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I’ve been pushing “Conpsiracy of Silence” for at least 9 years!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
December 7th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
well…if we are gonna do something to defend ourselves we had better do it while we can get fuel
December 7th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I said this before, they’ll re-word this part in a fake fight to distract away from everything else in the bill. This and the public/gov’t options. These are meant to get you to take your eyes off the other more deadly enslaving parts of this huge bill. These are the least of their worries.
December 7th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I love dead babies. Kill off all the unwanted babies. I want to know what all you antiabortion bibal thumping hipocrits do for the unwanted babies that are born. Is your home full of unwanted babies you adopted? Or do you only care about babies before they are born? Then after they are born let them live there s---ty unwanted life till they end up in prison? Kill the babies………
MADMIZZ Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
you obviously haven’t stepped foot in a church or know true bible loving christians as they are probably the people who adopt these children the most and my church actualy has a pregnancy crisis center that helps mothers that choose not to abort their babies, and help find homes for the one that are put up for adoption. So know what your talking about be fore you decide to put christians down. God bless you exploited!
Olive Farmer Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
The bible is an interesting fiction. I would urge all christians to make the voyage of discovery about the origins of the bible. This is not to say that there may be a god, for who can say, nor that jesus as depicted wasn’t such a bad guy.
However, religion in and of itself is a tool of control in the hands of the global elite scum that utilise it to turn good hearted people into bigots, haters and crusading killers or dumb, ineffectual and unprotesting sheeple.
My heart goes out to you in love and peace. The true path lies before you if you seek it, and begins with the first step on the voyage of discovery that leads to knowledge of the truth.
God won’t mind you looking, I’m sure.
http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com
FreedomLover Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
You obviously have guilt issues. Take them to Jesus. He cares, and so do millions of believers. I know of many babies who lived due to crisis pregnancy centers.
People who live loose lives and bed-hoppers jumping from one relationship to another need to realize that the “choice” is made when you decide to have sex. Not after the fact. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Sex was created by God for the fulfillment of married people (a man and a woman, if there is any doubt.). He put boundaries around it for precisely the reason so many hearts have been broken. It can be used as a warm fire in a fireplace, or it can be spread around and burn down everything it touches. Marriage is the fireplace. Anything else is destruction. If we did life and romance God’s way, (read steamy Song of Solomon), there wouldn’t be enough “business” to keep abortion clinics open.
But I guess I’m preaching to the wind.
jmc Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
go forth and multiply…the lord says you must pay your taxes!…the lord wants his rent!!!
December 7th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
What about the other 1000 pages of this legislative disgrace? Abortion is something I find disgusting, but I will fight to the bone to see that women have the choice. However, I’m a guy, have no stake in the matter, nor do I want it. Opinion does not equal law! Not the government’s opinion, or ours.
FreedomLover Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
You have no stake in the matter? What about the destruction you cause when you choose not to practice self-control and leave some poor woman with a child to raise? Or encourage her to murder it. God’s laws against murder are NOT ‘opinions’. Your philosophy is as deadly as the government’s, sir.
jmc Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
you still have the choice to pull out! and you also have the choice to run and duc child support tax…
FreedomLover Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
How about keeping your fly zipped to start with until you’re ready to offer marriage to the lady? And ducking child support? What gall! Those who live like that deserve the consequences.
Sad state of affairs. I know too many people living in abject regret over the choices they’ve made. I was smart enough not to make those same choices – one CAN learn by observation.
December 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
[DON'T DIE ST00PID]
[DON'T TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST]
December 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Nobody in the public who hated this bill cared if abortion was in it or not. This whole abortion red-herring is just misdirection to pass the bill once it is removed – and the bill WILL pass.
We don’t want the bill at all, not just because abortion is being played as a political gambit.
December 7th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Alex keeps talking about the background check for pizza. Kinda like in Freedom to Fascism. Does anyone have the link to that story? I looked but couldn’t find the link.
December 7th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Anyone know where to find Alexander Stephens History of the United States??? Thanx Infowarriors Get Ready Dire Times Are Now At Hand…
December 7th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
What makes abortion so bad is the fact that God Almighty cares for all human children as His own. The potential is to become members of God’s Family forever. However, Satan has been allowed to rule here on this earth for 6,000 years. His time is nearly over and it seems like God will cut his time short because humans ae speeding up Satan’s plans for our destruction. Don’t lose faith because God counts every sparrow who falls to the ground dead, Luke 12:2-7 He certainly counts all those aborted childern and will have a place for them in the White Throne Judgement, God is a God of great miracles and leaves no stone untouched. Jesus Christ will sort all these children and give them new parents who will appreciate them and they too will be written in th book of life, Revelation 20:11-15..
December 7th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
I farted! Where’s the Obama commie greenie weenie cops?
December 7th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
ABORTION IS AN ABOMINATION TO GOD.
THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE PRO-ABORTION BETTER THINK TWICE BECAUSE YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
WHEN JUDGEMENT DAY COMES, WHAT WILL YOU SAY TO GOD???
December 8th, 2009 at 5:49 am
I am sorry only some of you get how hypocritical you all sound
“I dont want the government to regulate my health care, but they can make a choice about whether or not I get an abortion”
Pro-choice just means I get to choose whether I want to keep my baby whom I am too poor to raise, or under qualified as a parent to care for. Or I get to kill it and wait for the right time to raise a child.
I see that as a choice. I dont think the government should pay for this but I also dont think the government should pay for anything to do with my health. I wouldnt trust the government with my own health normally, now you guys want to stream line killing something inside of me…this seems a little f*ed up.
I know it seems a little harsh what I am saying but there is a market for these babies, they PAY people to not have abortions. So yes there are abusers of the system on both sides.
Also I think its a little low for you all to be chastising everyone on here and call yourselves “christians”. Who are you to judge these people? God will judge you as well as them, and I am sure calling them “Whore” and other obsenitys wont get you judged…
Just my 2 cents.
December 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Pushing your belief, and your religion, and your sense of self aggrandized morality on OTHERS is exactly what we have going on worldwide and is perpetrated by the financial ELITES. That is precisely how we became to be ENSLAVED. A minority of self righteous people who run this world; and it seems that all the religious people in the world WOULD DO THE SAME THING. Religious people love to shove their beliefs down everyones throat just as much as governments like to shove their laws and statutes down everyone’s throat.
Maybe you ought to look at it this way, all you religious folks: It’s ALL God’s DIVINE plan. All of it.
December 10th, 2009 at 3:48 am
PLEASE ASK YOUR STATE REPS TO LEGALLY REQUEST THE GOVERNOR TO CALL OUT THE LOCAL CITIZENS MILITIA AT THE COUNTY LEVEL FOR PROTECTION OF THE PEOPLE/IN CASE OF SOCIAL BREAKDOWN CAUSED BY CORRUPTION IN GOVERMENT
December 13th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Oh man, if I had a penny for every time I heard the