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  • After attacks, Europe hurries to tighten gun laws

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    MATTI HUUHTANEN
    Associated Press
    March 11, 2009

    HELSINKI – Several European countries have restricted gun laws in the wake of school massacres, gang violence and other gun-related crimes:

    _Finland announced plans Wednesday to impose stricter restrictions on firearms, including raising the minimum age for handgun ownership from 15 to 20. The proposal was prompted by two school massacres within a year in which lone gunmen opened fire on classmates and teachers.

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    _Germany, where a gunman killed at least 11 people Wednesday, raised the legal age for owning recreational firearms from 18 to 21 following a 2002 shooting in Erfurt that killed 16 people, including 12 teachers.

    _Belgian lawmakers passed strict new gun control laws in 2006 in reaction to the racially motivated shooting deaths of a toddler and her black baby sitter in Antwerp.

    _Swiss citizens are demanding a referendum aimed at confining army weapons to military compounds and banning private purchases of pump-action rifles and automatic weapons — following a spate of suicides and homicides.

    _The Portuguese Parliament is currently discussing a government proposal to tighten gun laws, including denying bail to anyone suspected of a gun crime.

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    38 Responses to “After attacks, Europe hurries to tighten gun laws”

    1. toby Says:

      Looks like their tightened gun laws are still a little looser than ours.

    2. Ken Says:

      They are SO obvious!

    3. spook45 Says:

      “For the first time in history a civilized nation now hhas full firearms registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficiant and the world will follow our lead into the future.” Adolf Hitler, 1935. It seems that Germans have some experiance with this issue. Please note that everywhere in History that there is a total dis armament of the people, genocide soon follows.

    4. Dr. Sardonicus Says:

      _”The Portuguese Parliament is currently discussing a government proposal to tighten gun laws, including denying bail to anyone suspected of a gun crime.”

      This was my ‘favorite’. Under many legal scenarios mere POSSESSION of a pistol is a “Gun Crime”! So..does that suggest that anyone found carrying a pistol, without ‘Caesar’s licit’ (i.e., a BS concealed-carry permit), can be thrown in the clink and held indefinitely (bail denied)?

      This is first-class, tyrannical oppression! I’m not gonna ‘play ball’.

      Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado

    5. Benja S. Sariwatta Says:

      the amount of massacres that occured can never equal the amount of people massacred by the government

    6. Bad Slave Says:

      Will someone tell AJ to layoff the SSRI angle for mass shootings. How many millions of people are there who take this class of drugs and own firearms? Get it?

      The fact is there are mentally unstable people in this world. Did the drugs aggravate their psychosis, maybe. Certain folks are probably incorrectly diagnosed.

      AJ is doing a disservice to law abiding citizens who happen to take these drugs. There are millions of them that have guns and NOTHING bad happens. The NWO wants to use psych records to confiscate and regulate firearms. You are supporting their position, which is a flawed position. Please stop it.

      This doesn’t mean the drugs are good for people. You are too smart not to recognize this.

      Bad Slave Reply:

      “The SSRI’s are directly causing the problem.”

      Well, what caused the “problem” before SSRI’s? How many people are violently killed in the world each day? Is the answer “none” because we don’t read about it in the newspaper? This is media sensationalism. Propaganda. You think it is a problem because you are told it is a problem.

      Despite all of our discoveries and advances in medical science, we still know very little how the human brain works. Don’t believe me? We still cannot create a robot/machine that can walk like a human being, yet our children can do it before the age of one.

      Each of us is different. Beginning with our genetics, the chemicals our mothers were exposed to before we were born, what happened as we were born, how often we were held, our environment during those key first years of development, our life experiences, the chemicals we are subsequenlty exposed to, etc. If you get the right combination of variables and add an SSRI—POW! Who knows, maybe this guy at too many twinkies that morning.

      When it comes to something as complicated as brain function, chemistry and stress, it is impossible to single out one variable to explain any given event. I can tell you one thing though. If I had been on the street the day this guy snapped, a number of his victims would be alive today. Of course, I would be breaking the law by choosing not to be a victim.

      Big Lou 777 Reply:

      The bottom line is that if there weren’t pressure exerted on the individual by the global system that has been put in place (and from days of old), there would be far less mentally unstable individuals in the world.

    7. James McDonough Says:

      Wow, after the Banksters ruin the world economy with derivatives, THERE WAS NO HUE, AND CRY FOR A BAN ? HMMMMMMMM, how many will die from that ? Well the gun bans are for the base of O’bama supporters. I wonder how those peoples kids will do when their DRAFTED for war ?

    8. Gary Says:

      “tighten gun laws?” How much tighter can they get in Europe?! We’re talking about countries that have effectively been disarmed decades ago.

      monkey_mayhem Reply:

      I dont know Gary, I think our gun laws are more strict than theirs.

    9. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      Massive Avian Influenza Release soon to come/

    10. Jeff Says:

      Gary, I would have said the same thing, but after reading the article, it sounds like some of the gun laws in Europe are much looser than they are in the U.S.

      Dimension^Heart >:[ Reply:

      Yeah at 15 in Finland you can get a gun, and a kid on youtube said that he would kill his principal and he did.
      they haven to change their gun laws too.

    11. Miguel Says:

      Another shooting just happened in South Carolina.

    12. judge sixkiller Says:

      http://www.frontsight.com/

      There is a free 90min DVD about the place that they will send you. It’s pretty good. Open to young and old, public and private…anyone who believes in the 2nd Amendment. Bring the kiddies! Alex should have Dr. Piazza on his show. Larry Pratt and Joe Bannister give testimonials.

    13. Seal Says:

      They better know better than repeating the pre WW2 gun round-ups. Belgium certainly has had lessons 1939-45 about restricting citizen firearms!

    14. Monsanto FACTS, Today Gun free Zone FACTS: Says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L3kMuN8sjk

    15. REB Says:

      Control the guns and the food,you control the serfs,europe will never learn,marxists from there are here trying to do the same, lets hope Americans are still a different breed. Seems to me they instigate the problem so they can impose the solution,I smell a rat.

    16. full auto Says:

      gun control means population control !

    17. Nik Says:

      Gun laws are good. Why would you want a gun? To defend yourself? Why not use your firsts instead of being a pussy that needs a gun…
      In Australia we have good gun laws, not every random can just own a gun, which is why we have such low shooting rates.
      Guns are generally for killing. That is why they were invented; a weapon for war.
      There is shooting for recreational reasons too, in that case, apply for a shooters licence.

      Oh also.. LOL.. When the NWO comes? Then use your fists on them too. Guns are not the only way to rid an enemy.

      waypasthadenough Reply:

      I’m sure you can whip anyone you meet in any number but my parents didn’t raise such an idiot.

      Guns are primarliy for killing those who think you don’t ‘need’ them. Scum who don’t want their subjects or enemies to be armed aren’t going to grant them a ‘license.’

      Hope to see you during “Liberal” season. I won’t be stupid enough to try to fight you with my fists.

      Don’t understand? Start here:

      http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm

    18. albert Says:

      remember liquer is lefal just don;t drive or be a menace and watch your tv and go to sleep. baaaah baaa baaah

    19. albert Says:

      see drunkin righting…notice the misspelling

    20. Jah Jah Says:

      RAPPER T.I Joins Team to CONFISCATE WEAPONS !!!!

      http://www.egradioonline.com/2.....apons.html

    21. Lennon Says:

      Want guns? Thoughtcrime.

    22. Matthew Says:

      Im sorry but im for more control on this one, yes you can have the right to own a gun, but there has to be limits on what you can own. I know this web site hates all form of control, but come on there has to be a point when we say NO

      bill Rind Reply:

      Why does their have to be a limit. What would you do if they put a limit on how much food you can purchase, let say they put a limit on how many cars a family can own. when you go down that road it’s all over, you have consigned yourself to an oppresive government.
      It’s our right under the constitution to own anything we want anytime.

      John Reply:

      There is already written in the constitution what kind of weapons the average citizen is allowed to own and those weapons are the ones that are no longer being used by the military. The idea that the founding fathers did not take into consideration future weapons is idiotic considering that there was the funding for a standing army that could be fielded against the armies of other countries. They did not force the average citizen to use Pikes and spears.

    23. waypasthadenough Says:

      Hundreds of millions exist in the ‘western countries’ and there are 6 billion on the planet and the sheeple stupidly think no one’s gonna go off the deep end once in a while? The real miracle is there aren’t many more.

      There probably will be and our biggest DOMESTIC ENEMIES, elitist white “Liberals” and republicrats, will use them all as an excuse to further erode our Liberty.

      We must be ready to stand in their faces and have available the force and resolve necessary to tell them “NO, HELL NO.”

      Don’t understand? Start here:

      http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm

      Then share and prepare.

    24. brian Says:

      So Know it begins? god speed americans

    25. Luxembourg defense Says:

      @bill Rind: what about the right to posses drugs? H, Coke, etc. The rigth to own nuclear waste? for private use for example……. A statement like “It’s our right under the constitution to own anything we want anytime” is just plain stupidity and US ARROGANCE. Guns, Drugs, an dangerous,resp hazardous materials can harm people an needs to be regulated. If my neighbour starts watering his garden with plutonium water (for wathever reason) that will be a danger to me, so it has to be controlled. Same for the guns. I mean, common US cowboys, what is an M-16 browning good for? deer hunting, putting holes cheese, making confetti? Get real people…. Your way to brainwashed! (DO NOT DELETE MY COMMENTS PLEASE we still have freedom of speech in E.U.)

      waypasthadenough Reply:

      It’s for arrogant cowardly bastards like you. End of story. Too bad Americans died to save you from the Nazis and the Soviets.

      And there’s no such thing as an M-16 browning you ignorant child.

      Don’t understand? Start here:

      http://willowtown.com/promo/quotes.htm

      Stomy Reply:

      Yes the nazies, sponsored by american money! IG-Farben? familiar.So Good you liberated E.U. But after this we had another plague as big as uncle adolphe: americanisation of our countries by parasite Us company: Malrlboro, Coke, etc. So my grandfather says thanks, but I say that now the dictators are accross the pond, in congress and in our deregulated warmongering gun totin’ view of the world. It’s not because the US were and are murdering and establishing their laws througout the world that they are a better breed, as I read previously. I mean more than 60% obesitiy, no health care, dummest educational system ever, gun firing kids, non existing social securtiy,….and so on. waypasthadenough, yu’re rigth, you live in the best country in the world. If that works for you, just stay were you are, cause i really don’t think we would need a slinger like you over here. An btw, M16, M14, browning, who cares….. who needs those. I have never felt i missed someting without having a gun. Dann lass ich dich mal wieder du armes kleines licht. Allez petite Bite amuse toi avec tes flingues, ca te feras ptet oublié ta propre impuissance. Naja et misst alt een Gesetz gin waat dommheet verbidd! Giffs de rullen, misst du am Bierg-op bremsen.

    26. Andy Says:

      Here in Germany most of the TV news stations are switching after the topic right to some stupid US reporters complaining about the bad gun laws in the US, saying that the gun lobbies are to powerful to allow some new gun laws to be past and that everyone owns a gun and it’s way to dangerous bla bla bla.
      Politicians say though the gun laws are already appropriate in Germany and there is no additional need to tighten those.
      P.S. The gun shooter was receiving psychological treatment because of his depression.

    27. enoch7 Says:

      Can you say Antidepressant ! Investigator Siegfried Mahler said authorities had learned that the suspect was treated for depression in 2008, with five visits to a psychiatrist between April and September at an area clinic. He was supposed to continue the treatment at another clinic, but apparently did not show up, Mahler said.

    28. House Says:

      Yeah, like these idiots who go on these killing rampages give a shit about laws. If they want to blow their own brains all over the wall, FINE! Just leave everyone else alone & kill yourself. Makes a person wonder how much “grooming” the government has a hand in to cause these people to do this mass-murdering, after all, who’s got more experience than the government?

    29. monkey_mayhem Says:

      Hej corruptio….Kram