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June 12, 2009
Some time ago I signed up for Air America (I can’t remember why now) and I receive their email spam called THE WIRE which I generally glance at briefly before putting in my hacks/shills folder.
This is what was at the top of the email for today, Thursday, June 11th:
Richard Ben-Veniste Addresses The 9-11 Truth Movement (VIDEO)
He was part of the commission charged with finding out the truth about 9-11. So what does Richard Ben-Veniste think about accusations that 9-11 was an inside job? Also, what’s his take on Dick Cheney’s latest media blitz?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlUBOWlqUpE
Given all the media attention of the last month we are clearly witnessing an across-the-board effort by the msm and the PTB to push back against the increasing penetration of 9/11 truth into the American political and cultural psyche.We are being taken very seriously and our adversaries are struggling to find ways to counter 9/11 truth.
It’s time to take it to the next level, brothers and sisters, let’s get busier!
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
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June 12th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
How about Stephen Jones or Richard Gage Mr 911 Commish?
John Doe Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
NO!, not Stephen Jones! He’s dirty mormon, so he MUST be evil. duh
josh Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
bermas and richard gage would own these friggin clowns. what a load of garbage.
THIS ISNT ABOUT BUSH AND HIS IRAQ FANTASIES, Mr. Ben Veniste, THIS IS ABOUT 9/11 TRUTH, WHY DONT YOU ADMIT POP-MECH YELLOW JOURNALIST LIARS HAVE 0 CRED!??
We want 9/11 TRUTH NOW
MAD DOG Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
HOW DOES A PLANE HIT THE FRONT OF A BUILDING (PENTIGON) AND THE 2, 9 TON, 9 FEET WIDE ENGINES NOT LEAVE MARKS ?
UNLESS IT WASNT A PASSENGER PLANE?
hologram5 Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Well, the “Jet Engines” are made of titanium, which this metal NEVER goes away, the flames from the crash and things burning around the crash site will never burn hot enough to make the engines disappear. There were not enough pieces or parts to constitute an entire plane crashing into the pentagon. It NEVER HAPPENED. Titanium needs a fire of about 5000 farenheit to melt and only a forge gets that hot. So, no engines means maybe a tomohawk missile or something like that.
RightofRush Reply:
June 17th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
From the Handbook of Physics and Chemistry, Ti m.p. is 1660 Celcius, or 3020 F. Where did you get the 5000?
rogdix Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Aircraft fires don’t reach anywhere near 1660 Celcius anyway. Their fuel is basically kerosene which burns maximum 800 deg Celcius in free air (i.e. without pressurized oxygen injection.) So what is the point of your question?
Steve Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Because missles don’t have engines off to their sides.
kellyH. Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Mad Dog: “Not leave marks”?!!! All EIGHT (8) titanium engines disappeared on 9/11. These things are as big and heavier than small school buses. These engines have never just obliterated and vanished…..except on 9/11 to all 4 planes in all 4 locations.
Mad Dog…..there were NO commercial planes on 9/11. The implications are going to take awhile to understand. The world has been lied to in a massive and extremely costly way that will take decades to truly comprehend how many have been harmed because of this lie. Your journey has just begun…….
FULL AUTO Reply:
June 12th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
A TREE HUGGIN’ IDIOT THAT BELIEVES SOCIAL SERVICES ARE THE ONLY WAY. WHY NOT JUST SPEAK W/ RACHAEL MADDOW, KEITH OBERMAN OR BILL O’REILLEY. JUST INTERVIEW IDIOTS THAT HELP BRAINWASH THE GENERAL PUBLIC EVEN MORE ! JUST BECAUSE THEY MAY BE FOR 9-11 TRUTH DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE TRUE PATRIOTS AND RIGHT TO HELP LEAD THIS COUNTRY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ALEX NEEDS TO BE CAREFULL WHO HE INTERVIEWS JUST BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN ONE CERTAIN TOPIC. SHEEHAN IS NOT ONE TO HAVE ON THE AIR !
MANY HOLLYWOOD PEOPLE HE HAS ON ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE REPUBLIC BUT JUST THEIR OWN POCKETS AND PERSONAL AGENDA.
BACK OFF OF THE HOLLYWOOD ELITISTS WHO PUSH 9-11 TRUTH FOR THE WRONG REASON !
Peacnik Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 2:14 am
You’re right on. all these people are not who they seem to be all the time. Or they need to be confronted or something. WHere’s Charlie Sheen? Why did he fall off the map on this? He was all gung-ho and now….silence. WHat an asshole.
Yeah, Cindy Sheehan is either uninformed or naive or not as great as I’d thought. She’s buddies with, hugging Jesse Jackson in pictures and shit. Does she know Jesse’s past connections? Does she know what a scumbag that guy’s been? The CROOKS he’s pal’d around with? Guys like him are why our country is so FUCKED UP!
We’ve done a good job vetting and firing a lot of the “conservative” scumbags, but as a former kool-aid drinker for the left, and now one who knows a lot of their dirty dark secrets, It’s time that we start to air out the dirty laundry of the left. It’s time people know all about the Clintons, and all the rest of em.
HEY, DO A MOVIE ON THAT ALEX!!! AN EXPOSE OF THE CLINTONS!!! and any other lefty asshole who’s been playing upon the naivete of some of those on the left.
Peacnik Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 2:24 am
I used to look up to guys like Jesse Jackson; I didn’t worship them or anything, but I generally thought they were doing their best to help out the country and their people and all that. BUt after learning about all the stuff these guys, the Jacksons, the Clintons, Gore, Pelosi, and on and on unfortunately, It’s hard to see them as much better if any better than the Bushes, Cheneys, and all those guys.
I was really stupid. I thought, the Republicans are just exaggerating on almost all of this stuff, but come to find out, that nope, they’re pretty much right on with it all. Don’t go thinking I’m some kind of conservative Republican now or anything, but I just think that for our country and the world really to move forward, we need to have a firesale on the other aisle now. It’s truly a time for new people to be more involved.
June 12th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
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June 12th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
its like the little boy with his finger in the hole to stop the dyke from bursting…………..that didnt work either……..
June 12th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
2 planes hit 2 WTC towers…………………..agree
3 buildings fell on 9/11……………………….agree
a plane in Pennsylvania was obliterated….agree
something hit the Pentagon………………….agree
One thing that absolutely CANNOT be debunked is that 9/11 was avoidable. People that failed to avoid 9/11 should be held as accountable as 9/11 itself. The one thing that I have the biggest problem with is…In 1992, Dick Cheney started the blueprint for foreign policy. Starting in 1997, Wolfowitz, Brzezinski, etc. further revised the doctrine by establishing PNAC, and it became known as the “Wolfowitz Doctrine”. In 2000, Dick Cheney fine-tuned the doctrine into “Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources for a New Century”. This is the quote from page 63:
“Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.”
Now, the problem…Dick Cheney worked on this for 9 years. The process of transformation needed a catastrophic event like Pearl Harbor. I guess EXTREME LUCK and COINCIDENTAL PROBLEMS(like NORAD standing down) could only happen for Dick Cheney’s dream to make his 9 year project implemented. That quote on page 63 is a confession of guilt. 9/11 is Dick Cheney’s new Pearl Harbor.
what? Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
There were no commercial planes on 9/11. You are simply agreeing with yourself.
RightofRush Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
You are more than a little naive. Check out aefor911truth. As an aside, Did you know that Bush kin were responsible for the security of the twin towers?
rogdix Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 12:59 am
911 was never “avoidable.” It was a Zionist/Cheney/CIA/Mossad plan. You are assuming that US defences were supposed to respond to this fiasco. US defences were SHUT DOWN. IT WAS NEVER AVOIDABLE. IT WAS PLANNED. Don’t you get it yet?
Griz Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
As long as we’re going to speak of things that are apparent facts, peer reviewed papers that indicate nanothermite. That’s all I need to smell some rodents, but then you take the work of others and the way the buildings came down, the discrepancies in the official cause of the collapses, the fact that people in agencies had foreknowledge of the possibility and the way NORAD was stood down. All that is just icing on the proverbial meadow muffins! And that doesn’t even touch a lot of things that don’t add up and are known, even reported on in the 9/11 Commission’s Report, and just DO NOT TRACK! The government must be seeing that they are boxed in by now, and we aren’t going to let it go.
Reality Check Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 2:34 am
Ok.. You assholes need some answers.
1. Buildings were weakened back in the 90’s. (I know you’ll try to link this )
2. Two planes four buildings.
Two planes hit building. Weight of material, vs. vibration of ground history toward tower 7. Seven was an old building with a history of condemation!! Building 7 was in the path. Case solved you fucks!!! No more about it!
3. There were two (2) more planes! That’s right you stupid fucks… More proof you are a bunch of coo coo’s. 1 plane crashed into the ground., the other into the Pentagon.
If this was some inside shit, then you ass wipes are missing a ton of shit. LMAO…. and you are really selling this shit?????
I think I can say I’ve seen it all now.
LMFAO!
Reality Check Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 2:37 am
Funny shit now!
OK 9/11 shit heads, you can give it up now!
June 12th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
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June 12th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
The Iraq diversion is not going to help you now, we don’t have to shut up! I’m gonna bitch and whine about 9-11 until the fuckers investigate it fuck this shit!
June 12th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
No substantive questions….He is good……..however…….
totally neutral bullshit as not to let any Truth seep through his lying fucking Jewfuck teeth…
then he brings up Watergate to confuse, deflect and bury a real, factual discussion
A worthless, silk-suited shyster brought up the ranks by Wm.J. Clinton….and helped to shove NAFTA and GATT down our throats….
now look at our once vibrant manufacturing industries in this country …
Who cares what this cocksucking Jewboy insider says about steel integrity?
He is a smooth talking lawyer…..not a materials engineer…
The 911 cover-up seems to be bipartisan…and well packaged, just like the Event….
rogdix Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Your message is replete with grammatical and syntax errors, and anger. It’s hard to read an angry person. Honest. Cool off and try again.
June 12th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
ACLU hits Obama hard over torture controversies
rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/12/aclu-hits-obama-hard-over-torture-controversies
CRIMINAL PUPPETSHOW IN THE WORK:
–..On Thursday the Obama administration won a reprieve from the Second Circuit Court of Appeals, which ruled the White House could keep the photos under wraps, at least temporarily, until a Supreme Court review…–
(www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gQKgbhNDpqroxDS2WquFlbaRpD4QD98OPMPO1)
June 12th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Air America? Is that a new airline?
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House Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Yeah….Mel Gibson was the pilot……….
RightofRush Reply:
June 17th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Air America is a very old (50+ yrs), CIA asset. It flew arms and ammo to the Hmong, and came back with china white to and from an air base that we we didn’t have in Cambodia.
Al Gore Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 2:52 am
Don’t say that.. Only myself and the other Gods of this world can fly and drive. The rest of you need to ride bik……never mind. ( rubber is toxic ) Just walk!
Love and peace from the 60’s Gore, Fonda, Kerry, Clinton, Kennedy. Ohhh yeah… all the Bugs too..
P.S. We loved the negative shit we did to the earth! We arn’t sorry for shit, we just want you all to fix it!!!
June 13th, 2009 at 1:01 am
2 jets, 3 skyscrapers. anything he does will just be an attempt to put lipstick on a pig.
alot of these talking heads don’t investigate before their mouth starts running,, i wonder if the clown knows of the nist engineers making admissions about freefall in their report on building #7
i doubt it
keith Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
UL certified the steel, NIST said it melted. Even though most of the jet fuel burned on impact.
June 13th, 2009 at 1:47 am
He only wants to ask rhetorical questions to reinforce the idea that you can believe anything but know nothing. That’s one of the main ideas of the 9/11 deniers: you can believe anything but know nothing.
Here is one of Air Americas better moments last year on Clout with Richard Greene. He ran the ‘Month of Truth’ 9/11 debates. Check this out:
http://www.911podcasts.com/dis.....&typ=0
June 13th, 2009 at 4:20 am
I put Richard in touch with Kevin Barrett who helped organize those debates. It was/is nearly impossible to find anyone from “academia” to debate the OCT side.
Reality Check Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:05 am
How long are you people going to be continuing this crap? I hope you have made the money you have, because you are going to be shut down soon, and rightfully so. This got sick a long time ago, and now you are provoking/influencing people to think the way you do.
June 13th, 2009 at 6:58 am
his only source of evidence is the popular mechanics issue? what a douche.
Titan Reply:
June 13th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Exactly, since when does Popular Mechanics devote entire magazines or books to Politics? What a crock of shit. Ben Veniste is a shill. The first thing he brings up is he heard of stories that “no planes hit the WTC.” As if that theory is somehow predomiant in the 911 Truth movement? Bullcrap! Hardly anyone believes that. This fool just reiterates the fact that when you have the government investigating the government, you get a whitewash. That’s exactly what the 911 Commission was.
777 beats 666 Reply:
June 17th, 2009 at 12:10 am
kinda like investigating WACO, huh?
June 13th, 2009 at 11:10 am
A couple of closed minded fools, there is plenty of evidence .
razor Reply:
June 14th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Correction, A couple of disinformation lackeys.
Rich Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Thank you, took the words right out of my mouth.
June 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Having eyes, they still can’t see.
June 13th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
He’s just trying to put disinformation out there to counter our movement.
June 13th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
what a toolbox! the more these scumbags talk about it the more we have rope to hang’em with. they sound more arrogant and upset that they are getting closer to be exposed for there involvement.
June 13th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Saying you cannot and will not believe something without backing that up is not good enough. 2 years ago i could not and would not believe it but now i cannot and would not believe anything else other than 911 was an inside job because no one in their right mind can sit down and look at everything objectively and not come to that conclusion.
You can’t hide the truth NWO no matter how much money, BS or people you throw at it. Good will defeat evil because the truth on our side.
June 14th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Interesting how they keep going back to a time when the public was NOT informed. Compare what they say to what history has shown us and you’ll see that Air America is not a credible information source.
June 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Once again we see the knee jerk reaction from the supporters of the 911 lies and propoganda. What lies at heart of this effort is a growing and enormous fear that Americans will become aware that someone other than 19 Arabs in caves committed the crime of the century. So I ask you, what if we found evidence that the Mossad in complicity with elements of our military, political and executive branch perpetuated this crime of murder? Would we have the courage to bomb Israel like we did Iraq? Would we immediately arrest all Jewish politicians that supported the war and Bush? Would we round up all Jewish citizens and hold them in concentration camps? Would we rendition them and or torture them to get to the bottom of the conspiracy? This is the fear that some ponder and indeed it is a thought to consider. Anything but the truth is all these talking heads utter. In the end they will no doubt only have themselves to blame for their own criminal behaviour and doubting that Americans can be smooth talked out of real JUSTICE is not going to happen.
June 14th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Popular Mechanics debunked nothing.
Maron is now as guilty as Ben-Venisté of covering up the History.
Joey Rapps Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Hey, at least Maron brought it up to the gatekeeper. He tried to get him to just ACKNOWLEDGE the truth movement. And for all the shit that went down that day, his big smackdown of 9/11 Truth was “fire bends steel”. That was CLASSIC.
June 14th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
***’funkmasterfive’ infiltrated the Glenn Beck show and confronted him about thermite in the buildings***
posted on 12 juni 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpE6AMFUOqo
June 14th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Could only make myself listen to half.
WOW–Popular Mechanics. I’m in awe of their integrity and expertise. Well, if they spoke, that does it. The matter is closed. Forget the FACTS–JUST BE WOWED by Popular Mechanics.
two ply reply Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Popular Delusion … had some very nice articles years ago…about how we would have no need for electric meters as electricity would be that inexpensive… they have some very gifted pot smoking authors. the current theory was rubbish fire in building 7 which weakend the structure steel when the diesel fuel caught fire that was used to power back up electric generators… i am buying into that theory and that the theory that Obama is the second coming of Christ
June 15th, 2009 at 1:22 am
Popular Mechanics – Meigs – LIES.
Thermate is proven to have brought down the WTC complex.
This goes well beyond Bush, and Cheney, straight to the N.W.O. bin Veniste is spewing lies, disinfo and filth. Shut your mouth bin Veniste, because everything you say will be used against you when you are charged with muder, accessory after-the-fact, and your lies are going to convict you.
two ply reply Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
thermite are you nuts….. the wood paneling in these buildings was weaken by termites… which collapsed in on the structural steel causing floors to pancake or flap jack in on each other…
FreeFall 7 Reply:
June 17th, 2009 at 4:20 am
Termites are a real problem in steel structured buildings these days. Also, termites produce more Carbon Dioxide than humans, as they digest the evil forest and produce evil soil.
Let’s declare war on termitism. Save the buildings, save the forest, save the atmosphere.
Tax Man Reply:
June 17th, 2009 at 5:08 am
You can’t tax termites.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:29 am
Where’s Princess Zelda and Recon now that we REALLY need them?
June 15th, 2009 at 1:31 am
the abyss feeds upon itself…
June 15th, 2009 at 5:47 am
I’m sure they could have found someone to give that guy an easier time….
June 15th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Just like in the 9/11 commission, ole Einstein’s reasoning for jet fuel still don’t explains Bldg 7, which had no jet fuel to weaken its support
two ply reply Reply:
June 15th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
yes but it can be easily explained this way: the insurance papers in building caught fire…which weakened the structural steel in the basement which made this building come down. Popular Mechanics or was it Popular Science or was it Popular Delusion i read that in
June 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Richard -Ben… we cannot wait for the final proof…the smoking gun Richard…it could come in the from of of the crack pipe you are taking hits on. Richard is so lost in the contemporary simple solution… it is all about some rag heads or some dog eating dinks in Korea who hates us for our democracy. ….this site was the first one to inform me that the gas in the weapons of destruction that the evil empire in Iraq possesed was supplied to them from the US government to disperse on the Iranian soldiers. when i first came here.. i thought alex was so very full of it and he continues to be right about 75% of the time.. back to richard he is part of the culture that gives us diane feinstein someone who can oppose the blood lust of war and yet make millions off of it…
We are Modern Rome and e tu brutus….. e tu RICHARD
June 15th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Oy vey! Whadaya, whadaya mean you don’t believe two planes brought down three skyscrapers?! Are you kiddin’ me?! It was the Muslims, I tell ya’! Oh, oh, that other World Trade Center building. Clearly, it was lightnin! The Muslims brought down that other building with lightnin!
June 16th, 2009 at 7:42 am
There was a recent article in the Miami New Times magazine that tied Richard Ben-Veniste with the mafia.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
yes sie ..just one more talking head…he says there is no real proof of 911 being an inside job….yet there is tons of cocrete evidence…that no planes hit the buildings…jim walter jr. said it was just a halogram about a week after it happened…I looked at the film and said it sure looks like a plane..but not a passenger plane…then I started watching and listening to the first reports..no one seen a plane..they heard explosions….what I dont understand is why the 911 truthers are dead set that there were planes and terroists…they really get pissed when I mention this…I guess they really have a money machine going here…and dont want it to end….heres the solution….if there were no planes…there were no terroist = u.s. government…its like the dog chasing its tail..it will never catch it….
justin Reply:
June 16th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
If you want to control dissent…you lead it. This was the lesson from Adolph Hitler. There are so many similarities between the US government over the last 40 years and Nazi Germany that it is almost comical. The reason 9/11 “truthers” are dead set against you saying anything about there being no commercial planes….is that if there were no commercial planes….then ALL of 9/11 and EVERY decision, action, act, war, invasion, torture, trillions in funding, millions killed in a never ending global war, renditions, TSA, Patriot Act, Homeland security……then ALL of it would then be based on a lie and would have to be reconsidered. It would be game over. That is why you are never allowed to pursue such “evil thoughts” that there were no commercial planes on 9/11. The war on terror is based on a lie. Saying something was an “inside job” is so non-descript as to be almost meaningless. That is the motto of most “truth groups”.
Imagine if Jesus never existed. Then all of Christianity would then be based on a fabricated lie. It would mean that the never ending global war on evil would have been based on a lie. There were no commercial planes on 9/11. 9/11 and everything from it is based on a murderous lie. All of it…..and there are millions of people who have their entire livelihoods attached to the continuation of this lie.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
one more thing…I got off on what I wanted to say…this talking head said theres no proff 911 was an inside job…with all the videos…hes never watched one yet he refers to that piece of shit hit piece done by popular mechnics..as a real debunking….man ..I wouldnt wipe my ass with that mag…little on take it as an authourity..on bombs..planes..or buildings…they cant even do a good story on a lawnmower….the only person that believes these assholes are orily and beck..
June 17th, 2009 at 2:27 am
None should forget that Iraq, I’m not saying there were not a lot of jerks over there but they’re every where(the jerks that is), so Iraq might just be a victim as the US was. Be angry is natural and it’s maybe exactly what THEY (whoever they are) know will make people more puppet like. Popular masses are the first thing intelligence services learn to and tend to manipulate : it’s easy, costs little and so on. Most of the times, the leaders are simply little opportunists who play on people’s feelings through manipulation. Politicians are charismatic puppets, not thinkers (Bush IQ musn’t be very high) they’re tools of social engineering, not engineers.
June 17th, 2009 at 10:10 am
why the fucking government refuse to give information about the airplanes that were used on 911?
because there were NOT such airplanes involved in those murders.
And most of “911 truthers” KNOW IT!!
June 17th, 2009 at 10:17 am
on a rocket sled to get it up to speed & a wall built like the Pentagon wall would do a lot, wouldn’t it?
A metal framework, loaded heavily, with thousands of gallons of jet fuel, to show that metal may get hot & deform, but it doesnt just go from solid & strong, supporting its loads, to broken pieces that will fit on a 40′ flatbed in a matter of a split second. Metal goes thru stages, IF it will fail, it must pass thru the weakening stage, where the loads slowly deform the steel as the steel heats & loses strength. These idiots who believe the oFISHYal story have never used a torch on steel.
June 17th, 2009 at 11:50 am
These guys like Ben Veniste do not want to face the reality of common sense. All they can do is throw out their smoke bombs trying to discredit the laws of physics. Screw popular mechanics.
Real planes could not have cut into those buildings like a knife through butter.
June 17th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
no planes no terroists..end of story
rogdix Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Exactly. One correction though, – No “commercial” planes. Military drones, – remote controlled. Technology known for years. It’s called “Home-Run” where ground control takes over via the radar transponder. Nevertheless, – NO TERRORIST HIJACKERS.
June 17th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
the “leaders” of the 911movement don’t say anything about the airplanes (the murder wapon)
why? if there’s no murder weapon there’s no case, they just want to keep this shit going on because all their “donations” ( their modus vivendis ) would stop.
rogdix Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Lyncher:
Silly fellow aren’t you? Was there something intelligent you were trying to say, or did I miss it? Perhaps you should leave this forum and try something more appropriate to your obviously limited intellect.
Reality Check Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 3:13 am
Maybe that was a good point? Are you to afraid to challenge that person? Ask a question before you insult, and if you insult, be able to back it up and take it!! This board has been full of kids. I’ve had words back and forth and agreements on this site. I wouldn’t be hear if it was any other way!
All Hail the Constitution of the USA!
jakefatty Reply:
June 18th, 2009 at 10:21 am
You bring up a good point lyncher about there being no case. If you were to try this case in a court of law many of the truther “arguments” would never even be allowed. For example: If I said there were no commercial planes on 9/11 and someone then said but what about the passengers……that statement about the passengers would not be allowed in a court of law. You cannot assume passengers when the verification of the planes have yet to be made. Almost like the horse before the cart. The “leaders” of the truth movements are shills. This has been going on for thousands of years. If you want to control dissent you lead it. Hitler was a master at this. Hitler also had “truth groups” to find out what people were saying and more importantly to lead what was being said.
If there’s no commercial planes (no murder weapon)….then there’s no case! They may want to keep going for donations though that is highly unlikely. The military complex wants to keep the lie going….not truth leaders. The military, military owned corporate media, government, and US corporations have TRILLIONS of dollars in public money at stake. The object of US war is never to win….its to maintain and sustain war. That’s where the money is. And there’s nothing better than with a never ending global war on terror?
There were no commercial planes on 9/11. Every military decision that came from it is based on a lie.
June 18th, 2009 at 7:00 am
The man in this video is either stupid or hes part of the corruption.I have cut any kind of metal you can think of as part of my job for a very long time,and everything the 911 comission and popular mechanics has claimed is impossible at the duration and temeratures of burning jet fuel.I like the part of this story where the jet slamming into the buildings and exploding cut allthe steel up into truck length segments so they could immediately load it up and ship it to China for sale as scrap.I would like some smart ass to teach me that trick.What these fellas dont understand is that there are still a helluva lot of welders industrial technicians ,maintenance mechanics ,electricians ,industrial engineers,machinists and all the people who make up whats left of our manufacturing base that didnt get their jobs because they are stupid.There is enough ingenuity left in the common man to rip this story to shreds.
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June 18th, 2009 at 10:11 am
“everything the 911 comission and popular mechanics has claimed is impossible at the duration and temeratures of burning jet fuel”: That’s because there were no commercial planes on 9/11.
“I like the part of this story where the jet slamming into the buildings and exploding cut allthe steel”: The reason that never happened is because there were no commercial planes on 9/11.
“so they could immediately load it up and ship it to China for sale as scrap”: The WTC material never left the US. It went to CDI’s smelting plant which was purchased one year prior to 9/11 and located only one hour outside NYC. CDI was the same company that was paid $35 billion to clean up ground zero, write the NIST report saying there were no explosives, and was the same company that was seen in and around the WTC’s just weeks and days prior to 9/11 doing “work”. All videos in NYC of the time frame just before 9/11 showing CDI at the WTC’s have been confiscated.
There were no commercial planes on 9/11.
June 18th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
ha ha they deleted my last comment……………..that’s ok.
watch this video…………………………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
June 18th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
this is another video proving that no airplane hit the pentagon…………
http://video.google.com/videop.....5659781278
girllyBrown Reply:
June 19th, 2009 at 10:51 am
No commercial airplanes hit anywhere on 9/11.
June 19th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Ben-ivste if jet fuel can weaken steel i suggest you dont ever try using a pizza oven because the steel would end up weaking all over your pizza
June 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
yeph, now imagine when in the retaurants where they have ALL DAY long the grills on fire and nothing happens (grills DON’T melt ) to them…..not even “weak’em” ….
“The steel beams got weak,” this is one answer that the shills give to the american people, and the stupid people believe it.