The South Bend Tribune reports that political activist, author, former diplomat and presidential candidate Alan Keyes has been arrested on the campus of Notre Dame. Keyes was involved in an anti-abortion protest at the time of his arrest.
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On May 6, 2009, Keyes announced he would be present at the University of Notre Dame on May 17 and planned to be arrested protesting President Obama’s invitation to speak and receive an honorary degree at the ceremony, the Catholic News Agency reported.
In a statement released earlier this week, Keyes said he “will go to South Bend. I will step foot on the Notre Dame campus to lift up the standard that protects the life of the innocent children of this and every generation. I will do it all day and every day from now until the Master comes if need be, though it mean I shall be housed every day in the prison house of lies and injustice that Obama, Jenkins and their minions now mean to construct for those who will never be still and silent in the face of their mockery of God and justice, their celebration of evil.”
Randall Terry, founder of the the pro-life organization Operation Rescue, appeared this afternoon on the Alex Jones Show with Jason Bermas, Terry said Keyes was arrested with other protesters as they pushed baby carriages with dolls covered in fake blood across the campus of the Catholic university. Terry said the protests will continue.
In 2008, Keyes lost a bid to become the Constitution Party presidential candidate. During the convention, the party’s founder, Howard Phillips, gave a controversial speech in which he referred to Keyes as “the neocon candidate.” Keyes formed a new third party, America’s Independent Party, for his presidential candidacy. In the federal election held on November 4, 2008, Keyes received 47,694 votes nationally to finish seventh.
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May 8th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
LETS GET FIRED UP! GO ALAN GO!!!! OUR PRAYERS WITH YOU AND GOD BLESS!!!!!!
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
get him. beat/taze his black ass. I’m joking of course. baby killers good,protesters bad
Ken Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
first thought…obama’s payback time for Keyes statements against him.
boorack is SUCH a good Eugenisist. abortion/killing = good
Battle Hymn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Alan Keyes stood up for his beliefs, even though he new he’d be persecuted. I respect that. I also believe abortion to be an abomination. It is the murder of the most innocent, most precious form of life in existence. There is a 9-11 in America every day…over 3400 abortions per day in the U.S. And still, adoptive parents wait 2, 3, and 4 years to adopt a child. There WILL come a time when each one of us has to face the Truth about abortion; whether in this life time or the next. Seek out the truth or run from it. The choice is yours.
Three trees, adorned with mirrored pairs. One needs two to walk one true mile.
Marc in Texas Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Alan Keyes is a hero. He’s a real black American I would actually vote for and considered at one time when he took on the primaries. But we all knew his firm devotion to Constitutional principles and limited government would not sit well with NWO financiers and backers, so of course they would poo-poo his image as a lacking candidate. He’s even helped lead the charge in exposing Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. aka Barry Soetoro for the fraudulent usurper from Kenya, not being a native-born U.S. citizen as required by the Constitution for the presidency. He’s appealing his current suit and I hope to God he gets the win. People should also look into Dr. Orly Taitz’s pending legal challenges against Barry Soetoro as defrauding the entire American public about his person and thereby violating Constitutional provisions. Keyes has said the only way to UNDO or potentially reverse what Obama is doing to our country (his stimulus plans, abortion funding laws, gun confiscation and ban plans, free speech limitations, etc.) is to EXPOSE him as a fraud and liar before the American people IN COURT. That’s why it is so important not to lose sight that yes Obama is a NWO puppet BUT that he is first and foremost not even eligible to serve as the puppet-in-chief. The plans his handlers are pushing forward through him and the office can be stopped if America learns that he is not qualified under the Constitution to serve as president. God bless Keyes, we need to get this man out of prison soon! We did it for Alex when he got arrested in NYC, Keyes is another patriot we need to aid in his time of adversity. http://www.obamacrimes.com
Waterflaws - Denver, CO Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 12:33 am
No, Battle Hymn, the choice is not YOURS, the choice is THEIRS (the women who are pregnant).
And you seem to have, effortlessly, transferred all the problems, and your anger, from the past onto Obama. I think you could use your energy more effectively. Do you volunteer your time with unwed mothers or pregnant women in abusive relationships? How much money do you donate to them?
I assume you think you are a Christian. If so, how do your actions exemplify Christ’s teachings. His are the most important in the bible. The comments here sound like they came from the WWF, not religion.
Morons Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 2:38 am
Waterflaws… I agree 100%.. The choice is the woman’s choice…. And when she gets pregnant, just like if she gets and STD… her choice was made to have unprotected sex… So you are right, but you are wrong about when she gets to make the choice.. She makes the choice to have sex and become pregnant.. That is where her choice should end. After that, the baby that will become an adult one day then has rights..
Just like we all do, except they don’t have the ability to vocalize it..
I was suckered into that it’s a woman’s choice thing too.. Until my ex-fiance decided to have an abortion behind my back, and that then changes your perspective of things.
don't censor me bro Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
KILLERS ARE PRO CHOICE!!!
THEY CHOOSE TO KILL YOU & YOU DON’T HAVE A SAY IN THE MATTER!!!
ALL YOU ANTI LIFERS & PRO MURDERERS OUT THERE CHECK IT OUT!!!
1 0 0 a b o r t i o n p i c t u r e s . c o m
Battle Hymn Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Waterflaws,
I said nothing of Obama. I wrote with no tone of anger. And the choice I was referring to was to face the Truth or run from it. That choice belongs to everyone, if they can make it out of the womb. I am a Christian. I do my best to be a good one. I am aware of my shortcomings.
I believe you should consider the choices that these unborn children have been deprived of. The chance to expecrience the joys and sorrows of life and face consequences for poor choices. How many choices does a person make in a life time? That’s how many choices have been stripped away from an aborted child. The Truth is that abortion is not an issue of choice. Abortion is escape of consequence via the murder of the most precious and innocent form of life in existence. It is akin to murdering the witness of a crime you commit; only much, much worse.
The Truth is absolute. It cannot be changed, it does not depend on one’s perception. You can run from it, but it will catch up with you. You can twist and manipulate others’ perception of it, but lies do not last.
You are deceived, waterflaws. Your response gives you away, as it has so little to do with what I wrote, and so much to do with what’s in your heart. Your attempt to twist and distort my words, to give them meanings perceived only by your hateful, hurting heart, fails to make any relevant point.
ABORTION IS MURDER Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
ABORTION IS STRAIGHT MURDER
HOW THE HELL CAN ANYONE DISAGREE?
what kinda of eugenicists people are anyone who thinks abortion is OK?
i used to think it wasn’t that bad = WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND BRAINWASHED = DEAD AND ASLEEP
now that ive reached maturity and have been granted wisdom by Allah / God the Creator – i know that killing a “fetus” is the womb who would have come out perfectly n lived as a human being is equal to KILLING A HUMAN BEING
“but oh if they didn’t allow it then there would be too many people!!!
” =
wake up:
if abortion wasn’t legal – the adultery promiscuity would drop off
-people would have to take responsibility for their actions
- the spread of disease would slow down dramatically
- the moral disgrace we all have as a nation of murderers of over a million people a year could finally end
- just a few benefits – im sure you can think of others
“but oh they cost too much anyways! we cant afford them!”
DONT HAVE SEX THEN YOU POOR FOOLS!!! OR USE PROTECTION!!!
IN FACT – JUST GO GET STERILIZED IF THATS THE CASE
should we follow a slippery slope ? maybe “old people” cost too much? should we just execute them all? and handicapped people? and orphans? and hispanics? blacks? then whites? notice i didn’t say JEWS – CAUSE THEY RUN SHITTT (not all jews, just the athiest hedonistic satanic occultist zionist bankers)
PRAISE GOD – may He strike down the wicked among us, and have mercy on those who are truly seeking His Path and Forgiveness!
http://WWW.SOUNDCLICK.COM/WORLDCAPITAL
Woman's choice Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
“Aborion is murder”: You are one of the many “christians” who think your good old boy “christain” son would never get any girl pregnant.. wouldn’t rape.. would kill.. he’s a “good boy”!! Your young, dumb and fulla cum little boys don’t practice safe sex and then they leave the girls with a baby for US ALL to raise without your little good christian boys! You call this asshole Keyes a hero? You are sick and completly mislead in every direction. Which life would you rather save? Who gets to chose? You asshole christains are the 1st ones though to vote for the moral maniac who has no problem bombing a villiage full of innocent women and children!! Get off your high horse you “moral” idiots!! You can’t have it both ways. Alex Jones is full of absolute BS.. he’s a false christain as many of you are and just what the hell are any of you “christians” doing right this minute to save ANYONE’S life BUT your own!! I really want to know what you do to help poor pregnant women and single mothers in your day to day life!! What are you doing right this minute to help little infants who are being burned to death by bombs dropping on their homes? What are you contributing to homeless women in 3rd world countries who have no food or healthcare? What are you doing to feed the swollen bellies of the babies in Africa you are just as innocent?!
showmebby Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
really listen to yourself. whose message is one of hate? these christians you speak of are by no means men and women who truly fallow god. Yet there are good people out there who are trying to spread peace, and love. True believers who are set free from this mental bondage. I drink beer, smoke take care of my elderly nieghbors. I play sports and shoot guns, though Ive never killed. I accepted that I had a woman pregnant at 18. Now Im 28 with two children with the same wife. FREE HUMANITY stop all the hate, and killing.
4w578i Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Whether you’re religious or secular, if you call a candidate Christian, I challenge you to show me the chapter and verse, which he will execute.
If the mothers and doctors have gone on the public record as murderers, as Christians would claim, how would president Keyes have punished them?
oldhickory Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Woman’s Choice, you’re a hateful, ignorant psychopath. Go on thinking you’re enlightened with your zionist “liberal” brainwashed views. Abortion=good, anti-abortion=evil war-mongering scum. I’m going to assume that you’re probably too old to even conceive, yet you want young women to abort their babies. How typical! Thankfully many young women today aren’t swayed by your thinking. They don’t want to murder their young like your morally deficient Marxist generation.
TeamZero Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 5:03 am
i live in holland, and i’m glad women have the free choise over an abortion!!
or else i would be a 25 year old daddy with not enough money to raise my baby, and he/she would die anyway. well that’s murder too! so get your head up your ass…it’s murder putting a baby IN this world.
FREE ALLAN …. FREE SPEECH
Line in the sand Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Take note of Alex Jone’s and the MANY like him & MIRROR their fire,leadership & words of truth with you as your own and GET IN THE FACE OF YOUR STATE REP’S.
Ask this ONE SIMPLE ?
WHY do we NOT investigate this NEW PEER REVIEW that BLOWS THE LID OFF THE NIST REPORT? http://www.bentham-open.org/pa…..7TOCPJ.SGM
If we did that it would DISCREDIT THIS POLICE STATE WE ARE IN NOW AND ALL THE ONES WHO SUPPORT IT(BY THE LIGHT OF TRUTH WITH REPEATABLE FORENSIC).
DEMAND a reply from your reps on this and what it meens about the NIST TEAM and the REAL TERRORIST THEY PROTECT.
That will (((SHATTER THE CIMINALS GAME)))
May the light of love and truth guide and protect al you good folk’s of this WORLD
Line in the sand Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Better link http://www.bentham-open.org/pa.....7TOCPJ.SGM
Shadow hawk Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Thank you for that link, I have asked for it from alot of ppl. But you’re the first to show it!
I am going to send it to some that I think may be in a better position to do the right thing with it IE prosecute the people responsible and to bring it all back to those bastards!
Granny14 Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
GO ALAN KEYES GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
crashcrisis Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Right, Granny14, right, but he’s IN JAIL and can’t lead very well but in spirit.
The evil he is talking about goes way beyond abortion and infects every phase and nuance of our lives, so any resistance empowers the people, not just the followers of any particular cause.
They have to do away with Keyes, the way he presents the truth is a mercuricrome to the wounds of injustice which can never be allowed to heal. I can only be greatful to my wonderful government that they did not use the assassins bullet THIS time.
thomas Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
im going to put that on a shirt. lol.
Baby Killers Good- Protesters Bad.
Palehorse Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:29 am
So, arresting a black man such as Alan Keyes (who should replace Obama and who broke no laws) isn’t a hate crime?? But, they leave alone Obama who’s treasonous and breaks the law by allowing the mass murder of babies.
Benhur Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
messed up world we live. up is down. left is right. ok to be gay but not a polygamist? ok to kill unborn children but not ok to eat beef because thats just cruel
rat Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:19 am
£ 09.00 is about 20% of a week & we don`t know what you are any more.
rat
namesdontmatter Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
that is not funny…
RastaMike Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
anyone besides me catch the irony of being arrested for protesting abortion at a catholic campus?seems that they of all people should be backing him up…
mutha Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Naw, I noticed that too. Shows where satan hangs out these days…
Shadow hawk Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 12:20 am
I got it, I was wondering when I was reading it, Why are they protesting at A catholic University?
It is Ironic! Funny, in a sad way!
reverend mark Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
wow won’t be long till we have no rights at all
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brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
one of the docs I was watching said the clinics deliberately give low dose anti-pregnancy pills in order to get return customers. Its about money only. abortion right or wrong we can argue all day but immoral/deceitful practices by any clinic should be stopped.
Captain Trips Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
It’s wrong. If you can’t see that then really isn’t much hope for you.
young rooster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Let me get these different beliefs about abortion straight:
GOVERMENT: We own you anyways, so you’ll do what we dictate.
RELIGION: All people die, so god is evil for aborting all of his children.
CHRISTIANITY: Everyone has afterlife (heaven/hell), thus the body is unimportant.
BUDDHISM: There is no death, only eternal life.
SCIENCE: Everytime a man cums, millions of “little lives” are MURDERED.
LIBERTARIAN: Keep your beliefs out of my government AND my right to privacy.
Soooo, If a woman shouldn’t spread her legs to risk pregnancy, neither should a man cum, thus “saving” those little swimmers. If the afterlife rolls on after abortion, the fetus at least got to try something new for a “little while.” If a woman is totally wretched for aborting her lump of cells, GOD is pure evil for murdering billions of full grown adults. The Libertarian says “Mind your own business, unless you want me to shove a barrel down your gullet in protection of my own liberties.” AND THE GOVERNMENT SAYS, “KEEP DIVIDING, INFOWARRIORS. MORAL ARGUMENTS CANNOT BE WON, AND THEY ARE THEREFORE PERFECT FOR DIVERTING YOUR ATTENTION AWAY FROM TRULY MEANINGFUL TOPICS, SUCH AS THE FACT THAT WE THE GOVERNMENT ARE ABOUT TO UNLEASH HELL ON YOU, THE POPULATION.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST: Never eat eggs, you miserable eaters of aborted chicken embryo’s!!!!
P.S. People who speak for god ar ARROGANT. If you think you know god’s plan, you’re quite simply full of shit. These are the ones you typically get the “heads I win, tales you lose” argument from. You don’t want real answers, you just want to spout your beliefs. Beliefs represent the opposite of actual knoledge, btw.
young rooster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
That’s “arE arrogant” and “actual knoWledge.” I actually am literate. LOL
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
is a wet dream an accidental abortion?
Jason Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Wow. This lunacy is why most people are not libertarian. By the way, your little swimmers by themselves have no chance of growing and being animated. Neither can an unfertilized egg. But a fertilized egg does in fact grow and responds to the laws of nature. But maybe you never read the declaration of independence, which states we should be governed by the laws of nature. If an egg is fertilized and developing according to the laws of nature, and the female’s body is responding and housing the egg according to the laws of nature you should keep your gun in your closet and stay out of that babies business. It’s not your dang business. It’s not a woman’s right to choose to defy nature. It’s what we have to deal with. So lets find solutions not more government inspired death
Guy Mann Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Young Rooster, you hit the nail on the head.
young rooster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
@Jason: Wow. People who speak for natural law (GOD) sure are arrogant, yes? No, now we’re getting off on the wrong foot. I don’t want to belittle you, Jason. You have a right to your “beliefs.” As long as you are choosing to believe your beliefs, I sure hope they are accurate, or else you are just wasting (slowly aborting) your own life. My take on what you just said is as follows:
My little swimmers by themselves have no chance of growing, unless they meet with an egg. My little swimmers and that egg, furthermore, have no chance of growing, either, without a consenting female host. That consenting female host, at the end of the day, has no chanse of anything, should a NON-Libertarian government kidnap her without a warrant, and beat the life out of her without first giving her a fair trial. That’s MY BELIEF regarding natural law. It can’t be put in a nice little moral box. Wolves eat their cubs and eachother. It aint pretty, but it’s in accordance with natural law.
Better luck next time, Jason.
Terry Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Young Rooster is a one Gay bird —————————— Stinking crack head !
GOD BLESS ALEN KEYES …………………….
MC Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Don’t libertarians believe in the harm principle? How can someone have the right to abort a defenseless baby? If we don’t know exactly when life starts then it’s better to err on the side of life. Better to not abort and find out later that life had not begun than to abort and find out later that life had begun.
brobob7 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
If what you say is the true fellings of Libertarians, then you convinced me never to vote for them.
young rooster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
I don’t speak for Libertarians, as the individual Libertarians speak for themselves. We the People have what we call the 1st amendment for expressing ourselves as individuals, not groups.
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:03 am
@brobob7: So a girl makes a mistake and gets pregnant. She makes another mistake and aborts the fetus. You stand ready to demonize the second mistake, are you prepared to demonize the first? Maybe you’re among those who believe sex is a sin if you’re not prepared to bring a baby into the world. “Forgive them, for they know not what they do.” “He who is without sin, cast the first stone.” I’m not Christian, neither was the Jewish carpenter. But there is real truth in those words. Do those words supposedly spoken by JC convince you never to worship Christ? Can you forgive those who would turn to abortion? Are you without sin? Do you in your head think that you know what is right for the rest of humanity? Just asking.
Hello Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:32 am
I am in total agreement with you young rooster! Well said:)
Eric Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:55 am
young rooster,
I think there is room for agreement with the abortion issue. One can make the argument that having an abortion in the early stages of pregnancy is not killing a human live. I disagree but one can still make the argument. However, I hope we can all agree that killing a defenseless, innocent person is a serious crime, and that society must have laws against murder. And can we furthermore agree that partial birth abortion is murder? In a partial birth abortion, they either stick an object in the baby’s head and suck the brains, strangle the baby with their hands, or leave the baby sitting in a cold room until it dies. Now, you claim that people on “Infowars” are acting like little dictators when we claim that there should be laws against this kind of abortion; however, all civilized societies have laws to protect the “tribe.” And since when is killing a baby the a woman’s right? It makes no sense, man.
Can you at least agree with me that partial birth abortion is an unthinkable crime against humanity?
Woman's choice Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I agree rooster.. there is no way to fight a moral argument. It’s pretty cut and dry though when it comes to religion.. If you think there is a god, you SHOULD believe he’ll sort it out. Who the hell is any mortal man to decide who gets to live and die for the rest of us? Someone is ALWAYS going to die because of what others have done!!
I will say this though.. no MAN will decide for ANY woman what she can or cannot do with HER unborn fetus (if you believe in god then you should also know that we’ve inherited that right nomatter how stupid/useless you think we are). When men can become pregnant then men can decide! There is NO choice.. the choice is ours and we’ll risk our lives to keep it that way.. and I gaurantee you that many men are thankful.. probably more so than women, that abortion IS legal!
The Dude Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
This is a very difficult issue for sure. On the one hand, I view any government restriction of abortion as tyrannical; Big Brother, if I may. On the other hand, we know that the number one goal of these bastards is eugenics and population control. Also, abortion and birth control is slowly eating away at western civilization. The statistics clearly show that the eugenicists are winning. My position:%
Terry Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
It has been confirmed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Young Rooster has a new name given to him by his Boy Friend ———— He is now going by the Name of Gay Rooster ……………………..
Cock A DO I DO ————- — What a Flame .
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Hey Terry, You speak volumes about yourself when you antagonize, and yet do not/cannot contribute, due to a lack of intellegent rebuttal or otherwise. By all means, continue trolling… distractors like you will do your part and divert the attention away from the real issues. Congratulations.
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
@Eric: “Unthinkable crime against humanity” is framing it too dramatically and emotionally for me. I prefer the uncluttered approach. What is it, how does it work, and why, etc. I do agree however that many modern medical practices, including partial birth abortion, completely disobey the physicians oath of “first do no harm.” Clearly, sticking an object in the baby’s head and sucking out the brains, strangling the baby with their hands, or leaving the baby sitting in a cold room until it dies, are very twisted, disgusting, and sick, to the average person. Eric, try and get this from my previous posts, but I am NOT ADVOCATING ANY SORT OF ABORTION. I am saying that this is a very divisive issue and one that does a really good job of distracting from issues that are more immediate a threat to the walking, talking, breathing, and possibly patriotic, and well armed/informed members of the infowars community, who might be capable of throwing off our latest tyrants, should that day arrive.
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
@The Dude: While I agree that the NWO has a eugenics program beyond our comprehension, I disagree that the abortion issue is entirely about eugenics. Look, for example, into ancient herbal medicine for abortion. It is quite clear that herbal abortion “remedies” have been around for as long as women have been getting pregnant. I’m not saying either that NWO folks haven’t considered abortion; as far as I know, yes indeed they have. I would suggest clarifying collectivist views within yourself. Abortion exists within NWO plans, but outside them as well.
Daniel70 Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Dearest rooster,
I only read the beginning of your comments on this (The fact that you were ignorant was apparent from the beginning). First, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap. If you sow to death you reap death. Secondly, God is not a man that he should lie, nor the son of man that he would repent, He has spoken and HE will make it good! Third, Man is responsible for death reigning in this world, NOT GOD! Look it up, since you seem to use the word of God for your convenience. Fourth, One major thing that God speaks is that he HATES the shedding of innocent blood. He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. The problem with your argument is this… The moment a body of government sanctions actions that specifically violate God’s intent and word in this earth, the WHOLE nation is responsible for the outcome. This is the hugest point you are missing. To whom much has been given, much is required. Whether you believe in the Judeo-Christian God or not, Doesn’t make a difference to God, He is still going to require the blood of the innocent at the hands of those who have been given the greatest God ordained country on the earth. It IS about morality for those of us who have a clue.
I can’t speak for all the Christians out there cause many of them do not have a clue, but I can say this… If we were on a ship that was sinking because of leadership error, I would rather throw those leaders and all that are in agreement with them off the ship to lighten the load and preserve any hopes of our survival. Why should the rest of us pay and be judged because so many killed the innocent in the name of preserving themselves??????? You may think this is wrong, but I think it is justice for those who are innocent victims of this crime and the rest of us who would never sanction it. If the ship of America does sink, I pray everyday that only the wicked will perish with it. I know, I know, you don’t believe there are wicked and others who are not. Again, I refer you to that book you seem to know so well.
You are only seeing the beginning of sorrows that has come to our shores. There will be much more to come. Oh, don’t worry, I am not talking about all that weird Christianese end times stuff. I am referring to a righteous God in heaven who has no problem executing judgment on a nation who has denied and defied him relentlessly for years. This aint got nothing to do with end times and everything to do with the shedding of innocent blood.
I already know you are offended at my speach, or possibly will just blow this off as extremism, others will probably agree with you. But God is not into popularity contests, and truly you shall see someday the extremism of murder. Have a nice life, if you don’t get it right down here, your not gonna enjoy your over there!
Shadow hawk Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 12:27 am
Young Rooster,
While it is to me, wrong to have an abortion, I do believe that there are certain instances that it should happen. that being said, I also think that the Government needs to quit trying to legislate morality, and deciding what is best for us!
I Also think that if half of the people here that are complaining actually e-mailed their reps and Senators or just voted them out of office, then this crap wouldn’t be happening now!
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:18 am
@MC: Your point is the polar opposite of “A woman’s right to choose.” That’s the argument that is played out in the hundreds of posts below. My point is to not go so far as judging right from wrong. The creator, natural law or GOD (whatever label you attach to), created SHIT and PISS along with the rest of creation. If you propose to love the creator and his creation, you have to accept the shit and the piss too. Can you do that? Can you find love and compassion for someone who (you perceive) is so screwed up that they kill their own child? Maybe not. No one person or their ideology can ever be perfect, so why would anyone want to give the decision making to an already corrupt government? Leave it up to the people. Central government will only do us more harm.
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:26 am
@brobob7: My apologies if you were replying to MC’s comment above yours.
Palehorse Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:33 am
A woman has no right whatsoever to “choose” to murder a developing human being.
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:51 am
@Palehorse: It’s funny/sad how people on infowars, a site dedicated to ending the current dictatorship, are so eager to become dictators themselves. What gives you the moral authority? You have no right whatsoever to dictate to women, so eat it! Besides, I wasn’t advocating abortion. I’m advocating not allowing the corrupted government to assume authority over the obviously belief-oriented, and therefore religious, debate. I’m also saying that infowarriors should avoid devisive issues and work together on countering immediate threats to our sovereignty and Constitution, without which we will not be able to discuss these topics. This concept seems lost on you. The important thing about this article is that the freedom of speech of Mr. Keyes was abused by the government. It seems to me that this has noting to do with abortion at all.
Starsky and Such Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Young Rooster, I think you may have evolved from when the big bang took a dump. Get real.
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:17 am
@Starsky and Such: Is that the best you can do? Or are you what they call a troll? Do you have anything to contribute, or are you just a bitch who talks shit because they don’t have any intellegent rebuttals?
Captain Trips Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:32 am
YR,
First off…Do you talk to your mother with that mouth? What you referred to is the bodies waste system. You equate natural process to foul and vulgar slang because you were brainwashed to reduce biology to something “dirty” verses something amazing. To answer the second part of your self important all knowing comment…Yes, forgiveness is important and I can forgive but I’m not the one who needs to be asked for forgiveness. The government is corrupt but we can still win some victories and preserving defenseless lives is something to be proud of.
Marc in Texas Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Women do have the right “to choose”, but with RIGHTS come RESPONSIBILITY. If you opt to have sex, you should be prepared for the consequences. What do you think the natural consequences of engaging in intercourse are, hm? Sex is the mechanism by which we can procreate but this culture of Epicurean immorality is simply to enjoy yourselves to the fullest, nevermind the consequences. Abortion is murder, plain and simple. Once the woman has gotten herself pregnant, it is no longer “her body” as so many would have you believe. The new life forming inside her has its own blood type, develops its own heartbeat, etc. etc. That is a new individual inside her, so it is no longer “her body”. If she made the mistake of getting pregnant, she makes an even bigger mistake if she chooses to abort. If she’s not financially, emotionally, physically ready for a child, adoption is a much better solution. Yet you pro-choice idiots don’t realize you’re playing right into the NWO’s hands: they love that you all are so into murdering your own species, even at the very beginning stages. It just helps them along with their plans of population reduction, but you think it’s all about your “freedom” to be irresponsible. http://www.prolifeblogs.com/ar.....ion_is.php
Jason Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Young Rooster
I am going to assume you have never read a biology book about about how fetus’s develop. I spoke about the laws of nature. Its just a natural fact. If speaking fact is arrogant to you and you want to portray laws of nature as the laws of God then go ahead that’s your choice. It is a biological fact that a fertilized egg has the ability to develop into a unique human being. But if you want to interfere with that process go ahead. Sign up for for your socially selective country where we choose which people are allowed to live and die. Sign up for arresting Alan Keyes for believing what he believes. Sign up for total government intervention in deciding who lives and dies. I’ll assume since these lives are irrelevant, and their innovative abilities are not valued to you that you don’t value the independence most libertarians preach. I’ll assume the independence you value is independence only when a libertarian gives it to you just like the status quo in washington right now. Better luck next time Young Rooster. Maybe you should consider you’re arguing against scientifc fact before you begin flapping those beaks again. Cock a doodle doo
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
@Jason: Welcome back Jason. Use some logic here man, try to keep up. Nobody was doubting that it is a “biological fact that a fertilized egg has the ability to develop into a unique human being.” We are not debating the science of conception, Jason. If that’s as far as you got with your critical thinking skills, I’m sorry for you bro. The question is who has the power to take responsibility for the child from the moment of conception to birth. Not you, not me, THE MOTHER. If she chooses not to take responsibility, the child may die from actions she takes in that direction. Listen here: I AM NOT ADVOCATING ABORTION, NOR AM I CLAIMING THAT IT IS MORALLY A RIGHT THING TO DO. But it does happen, has happened since the dawn of time (see ancient herbal abortion remedies), and will continue to happen until the end of time, even if a “moral authoritarian” like yourself becomes the master of the universe. All that your laws subjecting a woman’s body to your code of ethics will do is force women back into the dark ages, resulting in backroom abortions and that sort of ilk. You know, the old coat hanger trick? Separating the moral issue from the reality is your challenge, Jason. The rest of your post sounds like you are just PMS-ing really tuff this week. I stated time and again that Alan Keyes getting arrested for protesting is the real problem here, so get a grip.
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Infowarriors, those who hate my viewpoint or love it, all the same. On the infowars main page at this time, four articles have clearly the most reader’s comments: Alan Keyes (499); Cop arrests girl during 911 call (437); Hunt for Jesus (491); and AJ kicked off Youtube (506). My message has been consistent throughout admittedly too many posts that ABORTION is an issue used to divide us. Clearly, RELIGION is another such issue. Our masters play on our beliefs, they toss us a bone, and watch us fight over it like mad dogs, and they love it. AJ getting shut down on Youtube is clearly a free speech issue worth our attention. So is the girl getting arrested for cursing during a 911 call. But come together people. Although the Alan Keyes article is about free speech, NOT abortion, and the Hunt for Jesus article is about mind control, NOT religion… WE THE PEOPLE FALL FOR THE BAIT. We start attacking each others morals, beliefs, etc. That is how they divide us!!! Can’t you see? Don’t you get it? Forget abortion and religion for RIGHT NOW. Concentrate on preserving the Republic and removing the tyrants, so that we may live to see a day when our views on such topics as abortion and religion can be freely expressed, and represented “by the people, of the people, and for the people.” No matter what any of us think right now, our interests are not represented by our tyrant leadership. That’s the issue. STAY FOCUSED! DON”T GO FOR THE BONE, GO FOR THE FLESH!
young rooster Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
BTW, infowars deleted replies to both Captain Trips and Marc in Texas. And no, I wasn’t over the top, but was instead posting my opinion like I do. So it’s wrong for Alan Keyes to get arrested for speaking his mind, but ok for my comments to be deleted when I speak my mind. It’s wrong for AJ to get kicked off Youtube, but ok for infowars to censor readers comments. Hmmmm. Dis-infowars, anyone? Or is it alright to censor me, becasue most of you disagree with my views? Curious.
Deathgate Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:16 am
I think that this topic, Abortion, is too toxic to discuss without hurting someone feelings, so here I go…
Everyone who wants to screw, can screw.
Everyone who wants an abortion and is willing to pay for it, can get it done.
Everyone else can fuck off and die for all I care.
paul walnuts Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:30 am
what is the name of that documentary you saw with the low dose anti -prego pills
brainy smurf Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I was watching a religioos channel Pastor Rod Parsley, Center for Moral Clarity. Some former performers of abortions say the women were given low-dose birth control pills tp ensure a repeat customer.
revolution_is_now Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
My hats off to Keyes for taking a stand. I would’ve done the same.
TelepesT Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Good Job ALAN!
I’m starting to like this guy!
gematria Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I knew there was a reason I voted for Alan Keyes when he was running against Obama for IL State Senate. This is a man we can all be proud of!! GOD BLESS YOU MR. KEYES!
glockman1980 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Here is an actual “black” man that would have probably made a better president. At least he can be president legally, unlike the usurper.
Rick Stone Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
I would have voted for him if I could not vote for Ron Paul. I have voted for him in the past.
Grayrider Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
TO Glockman1980, there’s no “probably” about it…..
glockman1980 Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
What I meant is you never know who these people are owned by. So far he seems to be owned by his own moral convictions.
alf1011 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
cps childkidnapping insight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
you peeps need to think Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
i support abortion if the person simply cannot afford to keep it or is raped and don’t feel like its and this whole thing if you don’t want a kid don’t have a kid don’t have sex is unrealistic and giveing a kid away to someone becouse you can’t afford it is worse then just geting rid of it at the early stage of devopment. this is not murder becouse its no differnt then killing a virus at that stage.
Hello Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:35 am
Agreed.
glockman1980 Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
I see the unborn child as yet another victim of said rape. If the mother of this BABY HUMAN can not afford to keep it she should find a private adoption organization that would be willing to find the BABY a new home. Abortion is an incredibly dangerous procedure that could leave the woman scarred for life anyway. Why murder an innocent person? IF you consider a HUMAN to be nothing more than a virus, i believe that is the definition of a eugenicist.
Deathgate Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:19 am
You people are missing the point here. American Citizen’s rights are being infringed upon and you’re off debating about Abortion like it is your decision to tell another HUMAN BEING what to do. You hold no moral authority to make such choices for others. Fools.
S. R. Collier Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
This is just another reason that Dr. Keyes should become the focus of our good actions. He’s a man of reason, intelligence and integrity. GOD bless him for standing in the gap and proclaiming the truth.
Boudica Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I don’t necessary agree with Keyes position but I defend his right to express it, protest and this whole thing is disgusting. WE MUST ALL UNITE IN THE FIGHT FOR LIBERTY.
Nunya Biz Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 4:40 am
Alan Keyes is another Glenn Beck. Don’t fall into this same deception, Keyes is one of them!!!
May 8th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Sheezzzzzzzzzzzzz
Women own their own body………………..
It should be their choice what they do.
Gov’t should stay out of it!!!
logician Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
sure they own their bodies, but they do not own the bodies developiing inside of them… you have no expressed or implied right to take someone else’s life.
then, you’ll claim that the body is not a human one until it is late term or actually born, but that gets you in the same debate as DHS and the CIA, trying to define exactly who is and who is not a human being or a “person”.
the military calls these non-humans with no rights “enemy combatants”… so what should we call these babies, “unwanted fleshy burdens”?
Kinda catchy, don’t ya think?
You are a hypocrite if you do not extend human rights to those who are not quite fully developed.
You know what, by your logic the government should not be invovled when someone murders either, because they are doing it with their own body? illogical to say the least.
carl eckett Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
your last sentence gives you away, murdering someone else is causing harm to another body,
A women has the right to make choices for herself, anyway the argument here is that everyone has the right to demonstrate for what they beleive in, if you don’t support that right, even if you don’t agree with it then your as bad as the people that had the anti abortionists arrested
rod blogojevich Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
does the woman not have the choice to use birth control or keep her legs closed?
homedawg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Exactamundo…if you cant or wont take the pill or make him do it,quit screwing until you can/will
YELLOWHAK1 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
“KEEP HER LEGS CLOSED”. MOST GUYS AINT GONNA LIKE THAT ONE BIT
Oprah Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
the birth control pills are low-dose.they also make u fat
Palehorse Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Better yet, don’t all people have the “choice” to control themselves?
AM Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:44 am
Birth control is not 100% effective. Women can still get pregnant. One of my friends got pregnant on birth control pills and she did not miss a pill. It’s easy for a man to be anti-abortion when they are not the ones expected to shoulder the child-care burden. It takes two to tango. Most children living in poverty were born to a poor, single mother. I would argue that it is cruel to bring a child into the world to such a shitty life. They are more likely to end up with severe psychological problems, use drugs, and/or become criminals.
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I agree with carl. Regardless of your opinion you should be allowed to speak your mind about it. I also believe in freedom of choice. I think the issue about abortions is out of the governments hands. It’s a moral issue with impossible-to-define lines, so it can’t be governed. What constitutes murder? What constitutes life? etc. Unanswerable questions, only open to opinion, much like religion vs. atheist.
However, I think abortions-gone-wrong-so-lets-kill-them-when-they-are-born ideas are absolutely crazy, and Obama supports that idea.
iygyuigyu Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
if the “fetus” has a heartbeat – ITS A HUMAN LIFE
to end that life FOR ANY REASON – IS MURDER
PERIOD. theres no “opinion” that can change that
anyone who supports this is an accomplice to murder
AM Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:01 am
Well said, buddy guy. No one can possibly win these moral issue debates. That said…
iygyuigyu – Yes, it is still opinion. I can understand people being opposed to abortion, as I used to be of that view when I was younger. However, in my current opinion, I am a poor young woman, and if I am raped and become pregnant, there is no goddamn asshole who is going to exert control over me and force me to ruin not only my own life but also the child’s because I cannot adequately support the poor thing. There are also many women who are abandoned by the men who impregnate them and are similarly unable to adequately provide. I do not see the justice in bringing a child into this kind of life.
I’d also like to point out that back in the days when people were hunter-gatherers, they regularly practiced abortion and infanticide because they could only take along so many babies.
John Sevier Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
True lovers of liberty would do well to research the beliefs of the Founders of our country through their writings: people like George and Martha Washington, John and Abigail Adams, James and Dolly Madison, Thomas and Martha Jefferson, etc. Apparently the very thought of inducing an end to a pregnancy by the use of abortifacient herbs would have been absolutely abhorrent to them as it should be to us today . Who do we think we are anyway to try to play God? When we start tampering with nature there are always unintended consequences. It is quite possible that the baby who would have grown up to become the scientist who would find the cure for cancer has already been aborted. Also modern medical science has determined that a fetus has a brain and nerve endings sufficiently developed that it is capable of feeling the excrutiating pain of the abortion “doctor”’s instruments as they dismember its little body before removing it from what is supposed to be a warm and safe environment. As this knowledge becomes more widespread there will be no excuse to continue such a hideous and barbaric practice.
Gixley Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
“the military calls these non-humans with no rights “enemy combatants”… so what should we call these babies, “unwanted fleshy burdens”?”
Exactly what they technically are: parasites until they leave the body. For those nine months of development, they are dependant on the mother (host) for life. You take it out, it dies. What benefit does an embryo have biologically to that individual mother? The risk that it could kill the mother at the slightest complication. It’s the woman’s own body, they have the say whether to have something in them removed or not.
And yes, they do own the bodies inside of them. Until the body turns 18. Then it belongs to the government. You should know how it goes.
You’re wrong on that last point, though. Your logic amuses me. An embryo is a blank slate until that nine months is up. After that, it become a part of the world outside. It’ll be given a name, an identity, and it’ll be exposed to connections outside the mother’s body. Until then, it has no worldly connections. You murder a grown adult, you are taking away an identity, someone’s father, someone’s lover, someone who is already established in the world. Same for a not-yet fully grown child; you kill a born child, you take away someone’s daughter, someone’s best friend. You kill a fetus, you’re killing a clump of cells that would otherwise be causing someone pain on the way out in the next few months.
People are right that abortion shouldn’t be carelessly used as a form of birth control, but neither should the option be taken away from those who actually need it.
jen Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Gixley, your post is absolutely insane. Abortion takes away someones daughter/son/brother/sister… you have to have life to grow. How people can diminish life is incredible to me…
Gixley Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
“Gixley, your post is absolutely insane.”
Seems I fit in well here.
Aside from the religious raving.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
abortion stops a beating heart. it also stops child support payments.
Opie Anthony Bubba Howard Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
jen is the kind that would let the sick/elderly suffer because her feelings are more important than reality. unborn/crippled/diseased, who needs those burdens?
jen Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
youre a disgusting PIG! You devalue and demoralize LIFE… who are you burdening? Maybe you should take care of that…
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
if I was aborted,I would be pissed off right now.NOT. no one loses a son or daughter,they lose a blob of goo.
Uhhh Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:10 am
jen, you are labelling Gixley as insane just because she has different thinking/opinion on a moral issue than you do. That’s not fair. Perhaps other people don’t understand your way of thinking either.
jen Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am
its not like we are talking about a difference in opinion about cheeses here……. were talking about murder straight up and your darn right, i do have a problem with murderers… its too bad u cant see that!
Texan Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Gixley,
Why is it then that we find it so horable when a crime is committed against a pregnent woman? It is because that fetus is a person. If a fetus is a nothing person, it should not matter, but it does matter. If you stab a pregnet woman and kill the baby, you will rightly be charged with murder.
Further, the child does not stop being dependant on the parent when it is born. Take a baby and leave it by the side of the road. It will soon die, and the parents charged with neglect. There is nothing majic about the moment of birth. It does not make a person. Birth only allows us to finally meet the person that was already created as a valuable unique human being many months earlier.
Abortion is killing. Are there times it is ok to kill? Yup. Self defence, etc. But we don’t kill someone just because they are a burden or an inconvienience to us. That is flat our wrong and evil. Show some concern for the most vulnerable and helpless members of our society. If not for Christ’s sake, for the sake of your own human dignity.
Gixley Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
“Are there times it is ok to kill? Yup. Self defence, etc. But we don’t kill someone just because they are a burden or an inconvienience to us.”
One word:
Crusades.
That was not self defence, that was killing people because they wouldn’t adopt Christian ideology.
As for your second paragraph, I was speaking biologically. Yes, a born baby cannot feed itself, but after birth, it’s no longer drawing on the mother’s body like a leech. That’s the difference. As for unique, most of what makes us up is our conditioning from society and family. A fetus has no conditioning, so the only excuse one would have is that they could condition it to believe in what their parents believe. Thus you have the Quiverful people and their “raising God’s Army”.
I’d be concerned if it was absolutely vital for everyone to have a baby. As it is, I can go my whole life without having a child and the worst that would happen is that I completely disappoint a society where everyone’s expected to have two or more kids and be wasteful.
homedawg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
you are incorrect..>The Crusades were about population control and trade protection…also about getting peoples minds off how shitty their lives were…oh,I’m sure that one or two of them bought into all that “free the Holy Land” crap but the base reasons werent so noble
Texan Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Funny. I dont remeber one word about the crusades being mentioned. I thought we were talking about the value of human life. Not hateful christian bashing.
jtb123 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Biological FACT: at the moment of conception a NEW PERSON is created.
Semantic fact: the word “fetus” was tradtionaly used for animals before 1970’s. Only when the eugenicists took over our gov’t did it start to be used for humans.
Presuppositional fact: it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a Creation without a Creator.
Axewinder Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Gixley your a parasite! what a dupe you are
Axewinder Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Gixley, that is always an excuse to justify your means. Murderers always got a bring up the crusades. Real christians don’t murder and that’s why they are defending life you fool.
Brave New World Order Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Gixley, you’re a fucking moron. This whole “parasite” argument is the most retarded, pathetic argument used by pro-”choicers,” which by the way are really anti-choice. Anti-choice-to-life. A truly pro-choice person would AT LEAST support one’s CHOICE TO FUCKING LIVE, cuz if you don’t have the choice to live, you don’t have ANY choices, period. Anyway, back to this bullshit parasite argument; this is obviously just how nature works. You make it sound like unborn people are evil wicked vampires, feeding off of poor defenseless women, like they’ve got these mandibles or proboscis, and are crawling around inside the woman consuming her bodily tissues.
In reality, a woman gets pregnant, and her own digestive/metabolic systems naturally readjust to sustain her and her offspring. The female body is designed for this and EVERYONE has to take on this so-called “parasite” role in order to be born and live, so they idea that something perfectly natural and necessary is somehow “evil” and “wrong”, and is therefore justifiably punishable by FUCKING DEATH… well, it’s laughably absurd to say the least. And it doesn’t matter if the unborn human is “not fully developed;” you can’t justify murder based on that. A one-year old isn’t fully developed either, it still needs a mother for sustenance. A two-year old isn’t fully developed. Technically no one is “fully developed” until puberty, but you can’t justify their murder with fucking politically-correct (il)logic, calling it “abortion” of “parasites.” As soon as the spark of inevitable life and biological growth is initiated upon pregnancy, THAT ORGANISM IS A HUMAN. Period. And nothing these psychopathic so-called “liberal” eugenicists say can will change that fact.
Pro-Choicer Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:20 am
They do not have the capacity to make that choice because they are not a PERSON YET. Ultimately it is up to the woman as to how she feels about the issue. Even if abortion is illegal, the woman can still get an abortion…illegally. I have no problem with those women who feel that abortion is wrong and choose to have their child. I do have a problem with women’s rights being restricted so that she cannot choose.
uchikoma Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:10 am
You Pro Choicer. How do we know you are a person?. Is there a test for personhood?
At what point does somebody become a person? How do you measure this? What are the differences between a person and a non person?
Eric Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am
“Killing my unborn baby seems cruel..I’m not sure I want to do this.” – Black Woman at a Rockefeller funded abortion clinic in the 30s.
“Oh..it is a lovely thing to kill your baby. It is liberating. Don’t let anyone tell you that you don’t have the “right” to kill your inferior..i mean lovely child.” -Margaret Singer
“But…I heard that you think black people are weeds…” – Black Woman at a Rockefeller funded abortion clinic in the 30s.
“Yes, but, regardless, abortion is liberating for women!! Kill! Kill!” -Margaret Singer
Eric Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I’m surprised that many in this message forum think exactly like the eugenicists. The government training schools have done their job well in dehumanizing humans. Pro-Choicer sounds like Hitler or Margaret Singer or anyone of the sick eugenicists in the last century. Singer would argue that the government has the right to test chemicals on black people or even kill them because, after all, black people are not really human in the eugenicist’s eyes. Hitler claimed that the handicapped and retarded are a blight on society, and since they’re different they really don’t have any rights. They too can be killed. If you study the history of New World Order thought, you’ll see that the elites fully believe in abortion because they have absolutely no regard for human life, which is why they can kill three thousand innocent Americans on 9/11 and not lose an hour of sleep. It’s the philosophy of death. The elite’s social engineering has successfully convinced millions of people that human life has no value.
jeff Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
then let the baby choose if it lives or dies, I think we all know the answer to that, but since they can’t be heard, then we stand in their defence
endTHEwar Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Normally I’m with that philosophy, but we have to scientifically determine at what point a fetus becomes a person with constitutional rights….
perhaps though that is a decision that should be made by the states (Dr. ron Paul’s view).
t PARTY Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I believe that life begins at conception. a simple 9th grade biology class will tell us that. Abortion is another way of getting rid of “undesirables” as Hitler would put it. Part of the death culture being developed in this country. It is very liberating to kill your kid, I guess. Wonder when they’ll euthanize unwanted 2 year olds. China needs a few more years of practice, then it’ll move west. The perfect UN model for population control.
sue Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
The issue of abortion is always a hard topic to discuss because it entails many issues. 1. When is something alive? People say life begins at conception because there is a heartbeat. If someone dies they can connect him/her to a machine and keep his heart beating in fact they take the heart and give it to someone else to live on. Does that mean they are still alive? No, their soul has gone. So life begins when the soul enters the fetus. Since noone can see the soul only the creator knows when the fetus is alive. 2. Where does the women’s right end and the life inside her begin. 3. Does the father have a right to the fetus. 4. Is it murder with the same punishment life for a life or is it different? There are many factors to be addressed. In Islam the fetus has no soul untill 120 days after conception untill then it is living growing without a soul. It is not murder if it is aborted before 120 days. However that does not mean that it is allowable to have abortion just because you think you cannot support a child financially however that decision is between the mother and God. If after 120 days there is harm to the mother’s health and there has to be a choice between mother or the child then the mother is saved.
Captain Trips Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
No, that’s called semantics Sue.
A justification to murder an unwanted human being which is only seen as a burden to a selfish and demented person. Adults know that if the lie down with another, a baby could be the result. Take responsibility for your actions instead of murdering a child.
We don’t need science to tell us when “it” becomes a human being or a child. As soon as conception occurs you have human life. As soon as a women becomes pregnant the body growing within her becomes more valuable then her own life. And what about the Father? Does he not have any rights to his own flesh and blood?
If the argument is about having the right to do whatever you want with your body, and the liberal politicians agree, then why are drugs illegal and mercy killings not allowed? But it isn’t just your body, there is another body involved. Take responsibility for your actions. If you want to abandon your own flesh and blood then put the baby up for adoption. Murder is no solution.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
I heard Dr. Ron Paul say that the to save the mother argument is a rare case.Abortion is about money and those who profit from it will make up any excuse to justify it.
Palehorse Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:43 am
Doctors shoud try to save both. They took the hippocratic oath.
Truthster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
endTHEwar you seem to be a bit confused! Our rights are inalienable – they come from God – those rights are supposed to be protected by the US Constitution from authoritarian politicians’ perpetual thirst for unlimited power and control.
Marine Drill Instructors Daughter Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
~~~~~Sheezzzzzzzzzzzzz
Women own their own body………………..
It should be their choice what they do.
Gov’t should stay out of it!!!~~~~~
AMEN to that Viet Vet!!! No MAN ever had to go into a back room in the 60’s, told to bite down on a piece of leather and if any noise was made – the Doctor doing the illegal abortion would stop.
Let’s bring back the back-room Butchers… the coat hangers…. bleeding to death… deadly infections. YEAH!! YEAH!!! Let’s throw women back into the dark ages!!!
DON’T EVEN think of saying “Well women should learn how to keep their knees together” Women don’t get pregnant all by themselves!!!
Abortion isn’t the answer to birth control; but it sure as HELL shouldn’t be up to any GOVERNMENT to decide what a woman can/should/will do with her body.
It’s HER choice and HER choice ONLY!!!
Zack Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Yeah. And let’s bring back murder too. No woman ever had to go to a sleazy gun dealer, take a risk with that guy, then go and blow someone away in the dark back alley either. Just because someone is willing to go to extremes to commit an immoral act, like abortion, or murder, doesn’t mean it should be made legal and safe! Your logic and your argument are lame. Just because a woman owns her body, (a premise), doesn’t mean she can kill the child who is depending on her for it’s survival and growth. Look, she got into this situation, don’t kill the baby to get out. That is wrong, clear and simple. I know abortion is convenient, but it is wrong morally, and I’m an ATHEIST!
grace Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
yes good point.
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Morality is individual, so not a good point at all. There is no universal morality, if there was, there would be one religion. I agree with Marine Drill. If it’s going to happen anyway, don’t make it be in the back alley. Similar (though not as controversial/severe) is the drug debate. If people are going to do it one way or the other, don’t make it illegal, make avenues for it to happen cleanly and safely, while funding education programs about it.
If everyone were told the 100% truth about these matters then I have no problem with letting them choose. Unfortunately that’s not the case, not a lot of people are aware of the consequences to the woman’s body as a result of abortions.
Kudos Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Well said Zack!!!!
Marine Drill Instructors Daughter Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
~~~~~Look, she got into this situation, don’t kill the baby to get out.~~~~~~~~~
Not all by herself she didn’t!! Where’s the FATHER?? If he’s got the “junk” to knock her up – he’d better have the “junk” to stand by her side and raise the child.
How many single mothers are there out there? How many sperm donors walk away?
Atheist or not – there are always consequences for everyone’s actions.
Everyone WILL be judged!!!
Zack Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Amen sister! I’ll Amen to that!! (Even if I am an Atheist!) Moral responsibility. That is what I am saying too. A man who abandons his children will never be a real man.
Omega Man Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
“Hey Joe, where ya goin’ with that gun in your hand, I’m going down to shoot my old lady, cause I caught her messin’ round with another man!”
Children deserve a chance to live!!
brobob7 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Your just plain stupid
Mike Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Just becasue people get around abortion doesn’t mean it should be legal. An exact parallel can be made to any other crime. For instance, just becasue murderers may get harmed in pursuit by police doesn’t mean we should just abandon all efforts to stop murderers.
Furthermore, if you don’t want government to tell women what to do then I don’t want my tax dollars stolen to support any form of murder, be it war, capital punishment, or abortion. It’s a doubled edged sword you see. As it stands right now this monolith persecutes Christians like me by stealing my money to support these abhorrent acts.
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
First point is dumb. Hardly an exact parallel. I say a closer parallel is Drugs being illegal, which is wrong.
Second point is noteworthy
Mike Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Yes, nit pick the word exact. You got me. Removing “exact” still makes the point I intended, so read it that way. People get hurt evading getting caught while trying to murder for their own benefit. That doens’t mean we shoulnd’t enforce laws against murder.
estone052060 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Marine Daughter,
What happened to personal responsibility? No one wants to take responsibility for their actions anymore! And don’t go down the rape road either. It’s well-known that less than 1% of all abortions are the result of rape or incest. That means the rest are a matter of inconvenience. I say we outlaw abortion for convenience, and then have a serious debate on the merits of abortion for rape/incest. A million baby’s lives would saved just by doing that.
homedawg Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
and what happened to my statement above?..quit screwing unless you take the pill or he puts on a sack?…keep those old twigs closed…thats the Best Birth Control there is
JTCoyote Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
The aborion question is one of the first issues that was foisted up in the 60’s to divide the American people… it was successful then and was driven by the extremes on both sides. It threw the Constitution out the window and gave us the false left right paradigm in full fury by the 1970’s.
The question of abortion is not a political question and should never make it’s way into politics or political policy… It is an issue that is between a woman, God, and her doctor… It should not be an issue of political discussion at all, it should not be funded by taxpayers, nor controlled by government… Alan Keys by this stunt, shows himself as the divisive shill he is by bringing the issue into the fray NOW when we are making strides against the FED and pushing back the NWO.
This issue is one for the time after we have pushed them back and we once again have control of the levers of governmental power, NOT NOW, it will divide our movement… it is a divisive issue used by the NWO every time it finds itself in a setback when it needs to divide it’s opposition…
Alan Keys is a NWO SHILL… let him rot in the Illinois jails!
JTCoyoté
“The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep
forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has
soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.”
~James Madison
young rooster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
With as much time invested as it takes to read down this far, I’m gald I FINALLY came to a post by someone who actually “gets it.” Thank you JTCoyote.
idiots populating this site Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Look at what this website has become
http://www.theforbiddenknowled....._keyes.htm
Alan Keys is a NWO SHILL-bingo.
Eric Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I really respect your thoughts, JT, but can one not trace abortion clinics to the eugenics movement? It was Margaret Singer I believe was the first to establish abortion clinics in the United States..the same person who said black people are weeds. Furthermore, she would convince the poor minorities to abort their babies. I think if you study New World Order thought you’ll find that the dehumanization of human life is a key belief among the elites.
Jive Mothafacko Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Well, just like you said, she didn’t get PREGNANT by herself. So what the Hell gives her the right to DECIDE for herself. OH, yeah, the whole ‘HER BODY’ argument. Okay, well, if a woman is carrying the seed of another man within her womb, she has NO RIGHT to decide by herself if that seed is to be watered or salted. It’s not like you ever had to use one of those facilities.
It’s a very evil thing to look at a fetus, a zygote, whatever you wish to call it, and declare it not alive. When the Horned Owl or the Slue Footed Toad have more rights than an unborn child, something is very wrong with the society that allows those conditions to exist.
In the end, the legalization of abortion has led to more division between the sexes, millions of potential lives snuffed out of existence before they even saw the sun, and of course, the old ‘I don’t need a man for anything…’ argument. Well, those ladies that say that sure needed a man to get into the predicament. But go one swallowing yet another devisive topic. Folks, God judges, not I.
Axewinder Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
This argument is unwinable to say the least. God knows the answer and he will judge accordingly. I think abortion is a very selfish and irresponsible act. God will have the final say.
young rooster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
@ Axewinder: I agree that the argument is unwinable. That is precisely why it should not become a part of federal law, one way or the other. This issue is very devisive amongst infowarriors, and therefore we should concentrate on disarming the goverment instead. In your words, “God will have the final say.” Therefore, we should concentrate on the gun barrel now thrust in our face.
really? Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
How’s about worthless pieces of shit like you start taking responsibility for your actions instead of looking for an easy way out of the mess YOU got yourself into? You F**cking piece of trash.
Captain Trips Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Neither did any women. It was a choice, a twisted and sick choice, but no one ever forced a women to murder her own child. It is NOT just the woman’s choice, as you said, a man was involved also and has a say over his own flesh and blood. Murder is no choice and the government is mandated by the people to punish murderers and do all within their power to stop homicide from occurring. How selfish and evil can a person be? You can’t give up nine months of your life in order to nourish another human being, and not any human being but the bone of your bone and the flesh of your flesh. You are twisted.
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Please tell me why any woman with half a brain would knowingly go to a back room butcher or use a coathanger on herself, would you? Sounds pretty hysterical, is the alternative really that much worse? Only someone who is mentally or emotionally unstable would do such a thing. Also, these arguments have never been supported by actual proof and are extremely exaggerated.
tyler Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Viet Nam Vet, first thanks for your service. I also served during that time but was fortunate not to be sent over there. On abortion, if it was the womans body that was being dismembered etc. I micht agree with you. But it isn’t. It is a totally innocent, defenseless human being. The kind that you and I, as men, should be doing everything we can to protect.
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Spoken like a real man.
AvantGardeDog Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
While I personally am torn on the abortion issue, one must acknowledge that the constitutionality of Roe v Wade is murky at best, while the protection of our right to protest as spelled out in the Bill of Rights is concrete, and should be protected whether we agree or not.
young rooster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
YES!!!
CounterStrike Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Thats right women do own their own bodies and they should control their bodies and wait till they can afford to get pregnant before they have sex. If they get pregnant then kill the baby they should be arrested and tried for murder. Its called being held accountable and being responsible. Also there is no reason for an abortion because there are 10s of thousands of couples waiting in line to adopt these babies. How would you like it if you were aborted? Would you say yeah well my mom owned her own body and yours too then? GET A FREAKIN CLUE
Marine Drill Instructors Daughter Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
~~~~Thats right women do own their own bodies and they should control their bodies and wait till they can afford to get pregnant before they have sex. If they get pregnant then kill the baby they should be arrested and tried for murder.~~~~~
Then so should the man who got her pregnant!!! She didn’t do it to herself – trust me; she had HELP!!!
Axewinder Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
You just don’t get it drill daughter!!! The point is there are people who want babies so you don’t have to kill’em. “You made your bed so lie in it”. “A tangled web you must weave”
Do you understand? Get a freakin clue
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:00 am
So it’s the womans body and her choice alone, but if she’s tried for murder then the man should be too? You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Your logic makes no sense, people like you will say anythng to win an argument.
Gotcha Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
‘Women own their own body………………..
It should be their choice what they do.
Gov’t should stay out of it!!!~~~~~”
1) Agreed Gov’t should stay out of it, BUT…
2) It’s NOT “the woman’s body” we are talking about here, it’s the baby’s body that is being murdered. And it is murder, there is no other word for it.
Deliberately framing the debate in this false way (”it’s a woman’s body”) falsely justifies the act of murder as a “right” when it is not. If the gov’t should not falsely frame a debate, as something it is not in order to justify state-sanctioned murder, neither should you falsely frame murder as a “right”. There is no right to baby murder, there is only wrong, period. A woman does not “own” her child’s body or it’s soul, period, any more than I “own” you. End of argument.
Protakill Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Right on Gotcha. Its simple murder. period. I don’t see why some people can’t see this. Responsibility
is hard but well worth the effort in the end.
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I don’t believe it is murder at all, depending on when it takes place which is what the debate should be about. Murder is about killing another human being. You can’t call a caterpillar a butterfly just becasue it will turn in to one eventually.
And Gotcha is right to a point, gov’t should stay out of it. But that means they can’t make it illegal either. If people had all the info and were raised properly in school, their moral base would be their own, and in that case I believe most people would say no to abortions. But unfortunately mass media and our culture glorify sex at a young age, that in combination with other brainwashing that goes on in school skews the idea of right and wrong, so the kids having these babies can’t really be held accountable for their abortions. I think, like everything else, it starts with the truth. Bottom line is we need to oust the anglo-american empire and return to real information, real school and teaching, etc.
Solid morals will resolve this issue, jail won’t.
SouthernnMann Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Yes, a woman owns her own body but she should be responsible and intellegent enough to know the consequences of her selfish feelings to open her legs. THEN it becomes another matter and another life. What is so difficult to understand about that. It apears selfishness has hardened the hearts of many women. And I DON’T think that men are any better for taking part in it.
Marine Drill Instructors Daughter Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
~~~~Yes, a woman owns her own body but she should be responsible and intellegent enough to know the consequences of her selfish feelings to open her legs. THEN it becomes another matter and another life. What is so difficult to understand about that. It apears selfishness has hardened the hearts of many women. And I DON’T think that men are any better for taking part in it.~~~~
So WHY are ~women~ the only ones considered “Selfish” for having sex & getting pregnant. None of the men who have posted here seem to take one ounce of responsibility for the fact that babies don’t just magically appear. The only virgin birth I know of is Jesus.
Maybe the men (who want to judge a woman who gets pregant by accident) should think about what could happen before they go “pokin” around.
freebornpatriot Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I’m just glad Mary didn’t abort jesus!
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Jesus was the son of Julius Ceasar and Cleopatra , hardly a ” virgin ” birth !!!
Watch ” Ring of Power ”
P.S. That doesn’t take away from the fact that Jesus was a pure devotee of the lord ( when he came back from studying and travelling 18 years in India !!! )
no they don't Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
People don’t “own” anything. Everything we have, including life, is a gift from God. Get with the program.
Sad Day for the Republic Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
If a pregnant woman is killed, the killer is charged with 2 murders. yet a woman is legal to murder her unborn child. WTF? My daughter was 3 months early and now she’s a healthy 12year old. I saw a movie back in the eighties that showed an abortion, they took the baby out and set it piece by piece on the little table to make sure they had got it all. Should be required watching before an abortion.Now I’m gonna go hug my children.
joe Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
That is sick. it should be required and the gov. should watch it also.
John Sevier Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 12:32 am
But that would be cruel and it might harm the psyche of anyone contemplating an abortion. It might even influence their decision, heaven forbid!
no they don't Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Obama is nothing more than “white trash”.
wakeup99!! Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Watch this Viet Nam Vet if you have the balls ?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkD0PcIsM3U
James Hennessey Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Babies own their bodies. When do they get a say?
Deathgate Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:22 am
When they are cognizant and can realize they are ALIVE!
think about it Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Then let women rent out their bodies. By your logic, if it’s her choice to do what she wants to with her body then prostitution should be legalized too.
MM8 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I could not care less what Alan Keys cause is, or what your cause is for that matter.
I DO care about his RIGHT, and your RIGHT, to protest and engage in peaceful dissent.
I care about his RIGHT to be seen in public, by public officials, openly expressing his concern and grievances.
That is what this country is supposed to be about…
Axewinder Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Think about it. If it’s ok to annihilate your baby because its your body. Then tell me why can’t I take illegal drugs? After all it’s my body. It’s all about population control and nothing more. You’ve been duped.
gematria Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
veit nam vet I see your mother was pro-life! Get off that liberal garbage of” she owns her body” shit! The truth is it is murder plain and simple. It is a baby in the womans stomach, not a puppy, not a blob, a living breathing human who deserves the right to life liberty and the pursuit of hapiness! Your a sick fuck!
Deathgate Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:24 am
A human being is someone who can advance and progress the human race and is valuable in some way. Baby is like pig it just eat and eat and never give anything back.
david, district 14 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
say what you want lady, you have an abortion and you end a human life, that is not debatable, you have it so you wont have a baby, so you end you own childs life, that is rough, face the big man with that, uhh I did not want to be inconvienienced and killed your and my child, even though there is many folks who want a kid,
come on my dear,
take it upon yourself to end anothers life, you could say it is not a life yet, then why have it done, you dont want the baby,
scary,
drive on Allen, drive on Alex, drive on Jason, drive on Ron Paul, and rip Aaron Russo,
god bless you all
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
in the bible,the first born of those without the blood around the door posts were killed so is abortion following his footsteps?
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Nobody owns anything , you were born according to your karma , in circumstances beyond
your control !!! All you can do , is choose your path , everything else is outside of your
juridiction !!!
Which indirectly reminds me of what some big enchilada hymee said about Americans :
” The only choice they have , is switching the light switch on or off , we control everything
else ” !!!
P.S. Not to say that those ” big enchiladas ” are not subject to the laws of karma , in fact ,
they are on the front row !!!
janine Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Here is the fundamental difference, you young, misunderstanding women out there.
I had an abortion when I was very young and stupid, and didn’t know any better. I didn’t know the difference between my body and the babies body, like I do now in my older age. I had to learned it after I got to my age.
Yes, It is your body before you get pregnant. Yes, you got pregnant, due to being stupid about not using any form of birth control. Yes, it is your body, and “your responsiblity”, and no others, to use birth control protection, to keep from getting pregnant.
Once you get pregnant, at the point of conception of the fetus in “your body”, you now are looking at “two bodies in one”. Therefore, it is no longer just “your body” we are talking about anymore. It is now “two bodies” and not “one body”. Jesus and the Bible said life starts at “conception”. So you now have {2} lives you are talking about, and not just {1}life. Read your Bible ladies, if you have an abortion after you conceive a baby, you are committing “murder”. Yes, you have broken one of God’s Ten Commandments and killed your own child, that is “murder” in the bible and God’s eyes.
The body of the baby growing inside you – is not your body, it has a living soul, and it belongs only to the baby and God. It does not belong to you to kill it. Now do you get it. You will go to hell unless you repent your sins before God. You commit “MURDER” when you abort your child. That is what I had to learn, because I was never taught this in school or church growing up. My father was a baptist preacher also, but I was never taught this by him or anyone in church. I did not understand the difference, just like you. You will learn it as you get older, and you life to regret you decisions in your youth.
Most people don’t want to look at it this way, but this is the way God will see it when you die, and stand before him, and have to tell him why you killed your own child. You will be hell bound if you don’t repent your sin. I have already done my repenting for my sins and asked my Lord to forgive my naive and stupid actions against my child that I aborted. I am trying now to just educate you as to the truth as God will see it on your judgement day.
All I can say is use protection, and don’t put yourself in this position in the first place, be smart!
Marc in Texas Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Thanks for speaking out and being brave enough to recognize what’s right and wrong. Sorry for your loss but hope you’re living your life for a bigger, better purpose than the almighty “ME ME ME”.
shilah Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Janine, thanks for sharing your heartache. It’s never easy to talk about the big mistakes. But we can hope others will think twice after reading what you wrote.
I believe someday you’ll meet your child & you’ll be able to hug each other & “start over new”, as friends. Till then, keep following the Rabbi from Bethlehem (Yeshua/Jesus) ; he thinks you have lots of potential & he loves you.
Lee Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
You might have the right to your own body.. The problem comes in when theirs another body inside your body. That body should have the same rights that you have. The right to live.
Lee Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I forgot to mention that when the taxpayers have to pay for your abortion, then we should have a say in where the money is going.
We the taxpayer are paying for abortions all over the world now. Now at a time when we dont have a dime to call our own. That is insane!!
joe Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
women may own there body but not the life inside it. So it would be ok to stuff a baby back into the mother after delivery and kill it? You are so misinformed.
haveuseenmynanomask Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Who says I own my own body? I may be forced to take a flu shot. Without say.
At the moment of conception, there is life. Live cells. They do not resemble a new born, a toddler, a teenager, an adult or a person in there 80’s. They look like a human being does at conception. Within these live humans is the blueprint of what is to become. It is not dead. Dependancy is irrelevant, for a new born cannot feed itself, neither can an invalid, a quadrapalegic, many elderly, and most men. Are these too, to be concidered parasites?
As to choice. We have always had the choice. God gave it too us. I can choose to be bozo the clown, I can choose to hit myself in the head with a hammer, I can choose to speak out against abortion, I can choose to type on this message board.
Stratcat Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Vietnam vet ,being a vietnam vet I am sure you know how to kill babys you moron,abortion is infanticide it may be the womans body but the human inside her dosent belong to her ,what and idiot!
Deathgate Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Stratcat easy to attack a vet, especially anonymously over the internet. Well, I’m sure some US Soldiers killed babies in the vietnam war, but you don’t know if he did it or not and no not all vets are like that. I am a Vet and I have never harmed a soul, unless it was indirectly through secondary actions.
Charles Sabo Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
No, woman do not have the choice to kill! If you kill, you break the 6th commandment of GOD and also kill Jesus Christ when you kill one of his brethren! Your choice is Heaven or Lake of Fire 4 ever!
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
properly translated it means thou shall not commit murder,thus some deaths are justified
M&M Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
No…it’s done being their body when they are life for another. One life is not more important than another.
Grayrider Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
They don’t own the body of the baby they are killing, STUPID “JOE”!
Gary S. Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Yeah women do own their own body, and they also have a brain. I’m sick of hearing about your right to an abortion,while you refuse to use your right to protect yourself from having an abortion,..IE; Birth control, Oh yeah you can tell Mr. irresponsible to put on Mr. Happy’s raincoat if he expects to play in a wet weather enviroment as well. If not your a dipstick as much as he is. Have a nice stupid day.
Save my World Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:09 am
No one owns their own body. The universe owns it. LOL
Deathgate Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:20 am
I agree with op on this. A WOMAN’S BODY IS HER OWN!
Gulf War 1 vet says Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 2:14 am
Viet nam loser ! You sound like a true Liberal , no wonder we lost Nam , You we all to high Viet Nam vet . It’s murder you pot head to abort a fetus , Why don’t you go turn on your Jimmy Hendrix record player and roll another joint so you can fry out what little bit of brain activity you still have ——–
I DON’T KNOW WHAT I BEEN TOLD !! VIET NAN VET GETS MIGHTY STONED !!!
IF IM FOUND IN A VC DITCH BURY ME WITH A VC LID etc etc etc
May 8th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
test
May 8th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
so what was he actually arrested for, did anyone ever say?
Melies Kish Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
They were arrested for criminal trespassing. They were asked to leave the private campus, and would not. You can check out some more photos of this event at my site. http://www.Kishphotos.com
david, district 14 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Scary a Catholic school would run off somone who was protesting abortion, that says how Catholic or Christian Nortre Damn is, hypocrites,
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
wasn’t Quazimoto from Notre Dame? he looks like he was an abortion gone bad
Red Dawn Now! Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
He was arrested for standing for morality and against mass murder that osama been soetoro pays for around the world with OUR money, that maggot.
I voted for Keys before I realized he is pro united nations and is misguided into believing that Michael New should be in the Brigg for refusing the dirty united nations orders, but…. in this case, the man is right and WE all should be defending the unborn against their retard mothers! Murdering whores,(except in the case of rape and incest.)
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
He could be a target by the private bankers because on a national stage he said the income tax was voluntary
May 8th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Viet Nam Vet:
I agree that women onn there body but they don’t own the unborne babys body if they don’t want the baby there are long list of people out there that do…. also if they don’t want a baby they should keep there legs closed or use protection.
david, district 14 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
thanks good comment,
May 8th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
and govenmen’t should stay out of it your right about that
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
government shouldn’t stay out of any of your rights, who cares, giveit all up to them, let them decide what is best for us. It’s all childish, like kids tattling on each other. Looking to mommy for some kind of rules. Forget it, government needs to stay out of it, end of story. They only have a place for black and white issues (not meaning racial). Anything that is open to opinion and unanswerable needs to stay out of their hands. Giving up these rights leads to giving up more rights, and so on
May 8th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Yea Viet Nam Vet, and the war was just right?
Viet Nam Vet Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
What does the Viet Nam War Fiasco got to do with this subject?
May 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Alan Keys is awesome. I’ve never heard anyone more articulate than this man. I wish there were more men like him who are willing to do whatever it takes to speak the truth. Get off the couch and quit watching your stupid football and basketball games men. Quit reading the stupid sports statistics and start reading what is happening to your world. Your freedoms are vanishing before your very beer. And quit watching the stupid TV and it’s dumb commercials portraying men as stupid beer drinking baffoons. God we are in trouble. Help us.
fools Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
“Your freedoms are vanishing before your very beer”
That should be a t-shirt
or a slogan
Man I wish I had come up with that!
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Yeah, that’s pretty clever.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
vet you are right that government should stay out of it
May 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Go Alan, you are a true man of integrity.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Viet Nam Vet,
If women owned their bodies then why do the so-called “pro-choice” politicians like Obama champion their right and CHOICE to carry the means to defend themselves against rapists, robbers and murderers?
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
That sounds like you are agreeing. Women own their bodies so they have a right to carry the means to defend themselves against rapists, robbers, and murderers. I think you meant the other way around, why does Obama want to restrict their right to carry the means… etc.
I’ll tell you why, because Obama is NWO Eugenicist scum, double speak, and all the rest
May 8th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
throw obama out and put keyes in… he,d make a much better president.
charles Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Well at least keyes is really black. Then they could legitimately say “the first African American president” which obama is not.
janine Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Obama is the first Arab-White-Black President that looks kinda like the black population.
His ethnic background is mostly ARAB, over 60 percent.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
yea, a real brother.not an Arab
May 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
You go Alan!! We’re behind you all the way! (outside of jail, that is)
May 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
This is just the beginning.
Obama’s government paid Acorn group can protest, steal elections and steal government money and what do they get? President Obama.
What do people like Keys get? Jail.
Better wake up. Don’t call good evil and evil good.
Pat
May 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
I live in South Bend, I’m trying to get my hands on a camcorder so I can get some footage of this as it goes down.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
this is a sensitive subject but I have to say the woman cannot make the baby by herself and therefore the male counterpart should have a say in that matter. I beleive that life begins at conception and it is not for any one (even the mother) to choose to terminate a life other than in self defense. Just My opinion, glad I dont have to face that issue.
M&M Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
It’s not just your opinion. Truth is truth…whether everyone likes it or not. You can’t argue that gravity is real just because you don’t like it when the rain falls on your head.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Regardless of your position of Pro-choice or Pro-Life, this is a social issue. Federal government has no or should have no decision on this. This is a state issue and should be decided on a local level.
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Completely agree, couldn’t agree more.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
That’s what guberments ( i.e. the king ) should be for !!! Protect the weak and innocent !!!
May 8th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Saying it’s a woman’s right is ridiculous. They can abort the “fetus” if they want to but if the “fetus” is killed as a result of robbery or other attack.. all of a sudden it becomes a “Baby”. Can’t have it both ways…. It’s a human life… either way… it’s MURDER !!!
It’s the murder of the innocents… plain and simple. The government wants population reduction and total control over what’s left of us after their “pandemic”.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
similar to blacks b4 the 60’s. the suckpreme court doesn’t consider an unborn a person
jtb123 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I’m sure Scott Peterson wouldn’t agree with that. To the best of my memory, he murdered his wife Lacy and their unborn son and was sentanced to 2 terms of life imprisonment.
lil Jimmy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
It’s hypocracy. If she killed the baby there wouldn’t be a problem.Ramone, fetch me a snorkle.
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
good point, i’ll give ya that one.
May 8th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
The Bible states that 1/3 of humanity will be killed due to “pestilence”. Pestilence is uncontrollable disease. Sound familiar???
May 8th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Marine Drill Instructors Daughter Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
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DON’T EVEN think of saying “Well women should learn how to keep their knees together” Women don’t get pregnant all by themselves!!!
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According to your own logic: The man should have a say as well. It’s true, women don’t get pregnant by themselves SO the choice should be between the woman AND other person that helped get her impregnated to say the least.
janine Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
That may be true, but everyone should be able to make an “informed” decision also. You need to education them first, give them info to take home to review, and give them 1 week waiting period to think it thru, before you make a decision to take a human life and commit “murder”.
Don’t mistake that this by God’s law is not murder people. It is “Legal, Authorized, and Consented Murder”, per 1 of the 10 Commendmants of God and the Bible!
That means sitting thru a movie to watch a live abortion to see how it is done and how the baby is disposed of after the abortion, counseling from someone of the religious beliefs of that person, forms of extended birth control for future use that gives them safty for a long time before they will get pregnant again – it must be done on the same day as the abortion, and mental health counseling for both families, mother and father of the fetus, notification of under 18 years old of the parents and the childs father. Make sure the woman, and all members involved are aware of all the consequence of an abortion. There has to be a majority agreement before under 18 can have an abortion. Over 18 can make an informed choice, and must recognize that it is murder they are commiting before they can sign a consent form to have it done.
Too many today are using this as a form of birth control, that is when we need to put our foot down and put a top to it. Abortion is not Birth Control ladies. It should be only a last resort for all parties involved. And they should be aware that it is murder also.
Each person should have to do all these above to even qualify for an abortion.
janine Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
The only full proof method mom’s and dad’s, to stop abortion permanently is to have each girl child brought into a medical facility, as soon as they start their periods for the first time, or set a certain age for this to be done.
Put them on a implanted 5 year birth control program, and a return visit set up for after the 5 years, to replace it for another 5 years of safety.
No more pregnancies at early ages. No more abortion and murder. No unnecessary births and deaths ever again.
Why don’t we adopt this type of program instead of arguing about abortion all the time.
Isn’t this the smart way to do things?
brainy smurf Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am
janine,thats so easy and true that Alex Jones may call u a globalist and accuse u of being a eugenics supporter
May 8th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Yes, women own their body but they DO NOT own the babies body. It took the mans sperm and the womens egg to get another body. This has nothing to do with the women body and everything do do with the child body. If a women wants to abort her body she has every right. If she wants to abort someone else body thats called MURDER.
jtb123 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Sorry, but suicide is not unlawful.
JTCoyote Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Yes, but similar to abortion, by it’s very act, it can only be ejudicated at the highest of all “courts”… if you catch my drift.
The point of the article however is not the legality of abortion, or suicide for that matter… it is about the right of the American people to freely protest against government policy…~JTCoyoté
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I think it is, it’s just hard to prosecute {wink}
janine Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
So true. No matter how you look at it. It is murder to abort a child. The child is inside your body but it is not your body, it is the childs body.
Pro-Choicer Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:30 am
The FETUS (not child) needs the woman’s body to survive. Therefore, it is not it’s OWN body YET.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:57 am
You also need other bodies to survive , like carrot or cauliflower bodies , so your body
isn’t really yours ?!?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Are you saying ALL military men are guilty of murder?
If so then Israel is Guilty of murder in GAZA!
Rev2:9 & 3:9 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
All military men are not guilty of murder, but “Israel” has the blood of thousands of innocents on it’s hands! I know, I know, their God’s chosen people, right? Of course, we won’t discuss the name of the god they really serve…
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
hey Ditto, I think the jews have funded/profited but not always started wars. please clarify b4 msnbc catches on
May 8th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
All pro death lefties should abort themselves in an effort to show us their dedication to this cause.
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
what about pro death righties?
Stupid comment
Dave Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
we are the righties. i am not talking about dems vs. repubs. they are all lefties………..dummy
May 8th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
regardless of his position on abortion, he should still be allowed to voice his opinion in this country. everyday we’re looking more like china and russia so i do commend keyes for constantly opposing obama because he knows obama’s not eligible to be in office.
janine Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Hoorah Texas Steve, the Patriotic American in our country agree with you.
We still have the 4th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, and it is the top law people.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I respect Alan and the other brave souls for the sacrifice they are making. The battle lines are drawn. You will be persecuted for standing up for truth.
janine Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
How about a challenge people. All of the posters on this blog. Everyone always sits on their couch and says, what can I do. How can I help. I am one person only.
If all of us counted ourselves as a patriot and an American to the core of your being. You want to keep your Freedoms, Rights, and help to Stop Murdering Unborn Babies in our country. This is how to make them sit up and listen, nothing else will work.
Do the following:
1. Send an email to every one of your State representatives in praise of Alan Keyes, and the Pro-Life Movement within the next week.
2. Take the time to call each State representative for the same reason, and voice your opinion.
3. Next week, sit down and write a letter to each of your State representatives for the same reason.
4. Go to your local townhall meetings, and voice your opinion on this same issue.
5. Go to your local city or town Rallies in support of our your country’s freedom, and your rights. Voice your opinions. Have posters made to support the Pro-Life Movement, and Mr Keyes Constitutional ideals, and all Americans freedoms and rights in America.
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You want to change our government and get 100% of all of the above back again.
Do the following:
1. Push your State representatives to “Nullify” all unConstitutional bills Statewide that passed in Washington that do not adhere to the “Original U.S. Constitution” since it was written by our very smart fore-fathers.
2. Push your State representatives to support a Continential Convention to repeal the 16th Amendment of the Constitution. His will abolish the “Income Tax Act”, and Americans will get 100% of their paychecks. This will remove all the money from the government and break the cycle of greed and corruption in our nations capital. This will set the government back to the days of 1776, and give the control of the government back to the people.
3. After the Income Tax is removed, push for the U.S. Constitution to be returned to the “Original Form” that the fore-fathers wrote for our country, America. Repeal all Amendments and Resolutions that are not in the original document. Repeal bills like the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and many others that are not what our founders wanted for our country.
This Americans, will return our country to us, the people.
janine Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Like I said above, this is an alternative to Abortion, a different take on a complicated issue.
The only full proof method mom’s and dad’s, to stop abortion permanently is to have each girl child brought into a medical facility, as soon as they start their periods for the first time, or set a certain age for this to be done.
Put them on a implanted 5 year birth control program, and a return visit set up for after the 5 years, to replace it for another 5 years of safety.
No more pregnancies at early ages. No more abortion and murder. No unnecessary births and deaths ever again.
Why don’t we adopt this type of program instead of arguing about abortion all the time.
Isn’t this the smart way to do things?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
HERE YA GO………….
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER…………..
AND GUYS KEEP YOUR PRICKS IN YOUR PANTS……………..
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KILLING THE UNBORN IS MURDER.
THAT SIMPLE…….GEEEEEEEZ
margaret sanger Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
What if the woman was raped and it is an unwanted pregnancy?
walter white Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
that may be the exception. not sure, as I’m pro-life for the most part.
Zack Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Then its okay to kill the baby!
NO!
If the logic is that the baby has human rights and should not be murdered, it doesnt change if it came into existence due to an act of violence. Another act of violence doesn’t resolve the crime of the rape. If the baby cannot be loved by the mother due to the fact it was conceived in rape, adopt it away to someone who would love it.
The psychological consequences of rape last more than 9 months, but sometimes the consequences in the first nine months is the gestation and formation of a baby. You can’t kill it and reduce the tragedy. That just compounds it.
People act like if it was unloved, or an act of violence, or born into poverty, or inconvenient, or there was a man involved too then that makes it a gray area and then it is okay to kill the baby. Why would that make a difference?
Pro-Choicer Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:39 am
It makes a world of difference. But why would you understand? You do not bear the burden of childbirth or childcare. You’re a man:P
Zack Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Just because there are inconvenient circumstances doesn’t justify the killing. I understand it makes a world of difference in convenience, but it isn’t about convenience all the time, is it? If this world were always about convenience it would be a very selfish and cruel world, worse than it is. Maybe that is what is is about for pro-choicers. Anyway, I would understand because a real man would not leave his child uncared for. And you’re right. I’m a man – a real man.
zack Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
It is always an unwanted pregnancy that is aborted. People don’t abort wanted pregnancies, normally.
rat Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Clever nonsence I care not good seek the missing.
rat
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Kill the rapist, the baby is innocent.
MournerForTheInnocents Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Amen
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Why don’t women make good truck drivers? It takes them 9 weeks to deliver a good load. 10-4
lil Jimmy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
I think u meant 9 months.Ramone,get me a clothes hanger.
yellowhak1 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RICHOCHET YOU POST, WOMEN SHOULD LEARN TO KEEP THEIR KNEES TOGETHER AT LEAST EIGHTEEN TIMES AND THE GUYS GET A MEASLEY KEEP YOUR PRICKS IN YOUR PANTS?
walter white Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
what’s your point stupid?
YELLOWHAK1 Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
your an ass. thats my point!
Gixley Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
The point is it looks like you’re placing 90% of the blame on the woman and throw in the part about guys as an afterthought. Yeah, way to look good. Nevermind that it’s usually men who instigate intercourse be it rape, or some guy pressuring his girlfriend into submitting. I’m not saying all women are innocent, ’cause I’ve known some sleazebags myself, but you can’t make females into the ones in the wrong. If that’s not how you intended it, think about how you present it next time.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
2 minutes to sow a seed opposed to 9 months of pregnancy. Id say 90% of the blame is on the woman.
Pro-Choicer Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:36 am
Well said Gixley:)
And “brainy” smurf, it takes two to make a baby. You make that remark and then wonder why a woman could be pro-choice. If men took equal responsibility for their offspring more women would choose to keep their babies. The woman is just the one unlucky enough to have to bear the burden of childbirth. Or lucky, depending on how you view the situation.
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Plenty of blame to go around, but if men get equal blame then why is it the womans’ decision alone? Can”t have your cake and…
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
how can u kill the unborn? sounds oxymoronic
Zack Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Let’s see, they are alive, just not born yet, then you kill ‘em. It’s not really that tricky. And it’s not an oxymoron, however Brainy Smurf is oxymoronic, isn’t it?
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
yes
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Absolutely not. Sex does so much for the mind and spirit.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Abortion is a capital offence against God and a Mortal Sin. Moreover, a woman’s body is not her own to do with as she pleases, it belongs to Jesus Christ who has paid the ransom for it. I do not see why it is soo difficult for everyone to see that killing babies is just plain wrong and morally incorrect. Of course the damn baby wants to live!! This problem has now become a national sin which this country will be held accountable for. How many of you think that these crimes against humanity but more importantly against God will go unpunished? The blood of these holy innocents crys out from the earth for vengence and woe is us on the day of the Lord’s vengence. Some one is going to have to pay for these crimes. You can’t get away with this kind of evil, no way. Obama is antichrist and everyone who voted for him has participated in a great evil. We have elected for our nation’s head a man who is pure evil and totally diabolical along with most everyone else in government. Indeed the people have spoken and we will now reap what we have sown. Our nation has chosen evil and has preferred the darkness to the light. The only question I have is how long?
Pro-Choicer Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:50 am
“Moreover, a woman’s body is not her own to do with as she pleases, it belongs to Jesus Christ who has paid the ransom for it.”
Sexist. Piss on you, I will do whatever the hell I want with my body:P Including fighting the NWO. Your claim is ludicrous, not to mention a form of slavery for “Jesus” to “own” a body, just like the NWO is trying to do. People consider slavery evil, but not religion, which is a form of slavery. This is beyond me.
charles Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Piss on me? Sexist? How? You don’t know what you’re talking about. You are under NWO control. You’ve been had. You’ve been sold a NWO package and You’ve bought it hook line and sinker. Defense of life and innocence is bad and evil, women are scum and deserve to be treated as such, up is down and black is white, You’ve had military grade psychological operations carried out on you and you are having eugenics carried out on you. Wake up! Hear the voice of truth and reason. See the light. Jesus made you so of course he owns you just as I own the chair that I made. But Jesus loves you beyond all comprehension and wants only your good and your salvation and what is best for you. He formed you in your mothers womb and knew you before you were. Who has made themselves. People who do not know or are not willing to make sacrifices will suffer much in the coming chastisement. I say no to bodily mutilations like tattoos, piercings and such. These are simple things that I guess aren’t really a big deal but out of respect for Our Lord I wouldn’t do them. So if you choose to murder your child do you believe that this is a crime you will get away with? Real easy and simple like that? No big loss? Piss on me huh?… ok… .. .
May 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I dislike protesting for and creating federal laws. Instead, this issue should be handled at the state level. Hopefully many states would illegalize abortion but thankfully not all would. This is the democracy we need. We need to stop making federal laws that 49% disagree with, or worse! I support protesting abortion on the state level.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Was ‘The Obama Deception’ distributed to students before Obama gets there?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
The issue is not really whether it is a woman’s right or not to have an abortion, the underlying idea that the Illuminists have intended is that if a group of people are undisirable then we have a right to kill them.
Zack Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Yeah, or arrest them. Let’s see, first they came for the Christians and I did not say anything because I didn’t want to get involved, then they came for the libertarians, but I didn’t say anything because I didn’t want to get involved, then they came for the Jews, then the home schoolers, then the gun owners, then the tax revolters, then the… then they came for me and there was no one left to stand up for my rights.
Zack Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Yeah Zack! Good post! You tell ‘em boy!!
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:16 am
I agree, but you shouldn’t pat yourself on the back like that.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Dear Mr Viet Nam Vet, You are out of line. The almighty God, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has the final say for what a woman can do with their bodies. First of all, abortion is murder, plain and simple. If you cannot see that, then you are a fool. What woman should do with their bodies should be to keep their leggs closed. If they cannot take care of children they bring into this world, then they should keep them shut. A child is alive at conception, that is fact. If not, how could a child be dead in the womb, then comes life after birth. The is foolish to say the least. We in America are going to feel the judgement of god because of the 50 million babies killed because a woman does not want to take responsibility for her actions. They are sick, lower then dogs as far as I am concerned. You keep supporting the killing of these babies, and you will reap what you sow.
Viet Nam Vet Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Pro Life…………………Abortion
It does not matter.
Gov’t should stay “OUT” of all of our lives.
That is my message.
The Gov’t keeps this controversy going so we are divided.
It is easier to control a populace that is that way.
BTW Sir, How many of these un wanted babies have “YOU” raised?
buddy guy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I like you Vet. I agree. I think if all this brainwashing stops and this playing groups against eachother, people will be able to form their own decisions, and I think the majority of people will decide that they don’t want to abort. But with all the government brainwashing telling them they should abort, there’s nothing this argument can solve. The real thing we should be talking about is how to make this happen and allow people access to the real information they need in order to form their own morals and values to guide them appropriately.
Hello Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:57 am
I like you both, Viet Nam Vet and buddy guy, haha. Your comments make the most sense to me out of anybody posting on this thread.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN2cxGZXJb8
May 8th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
If someone has a wreck and kills someome who is pregnate don’t they consider that as 2 counts of murder? So how is abortion not murder in the eyes of government?
An European Voize Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
FREE ALAN!!
rat Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 6:29 am
lovely what is ” !! ” ?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Man i wish i voted for alan keys.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
is ejaculate down the drain considered abortion? I’m damned if it is
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
It is , and it’s not , just like drinking water on a fasting day is considered breaking the
fasting and not breaking it !!!
P.S. Karma is usually shared , especially by heads of state , who set up the system
you live under , like a system where men are teased to death , but where they can’t
get a decent break !!!
jen Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
sure just like when a woman has her period and gets rid of her egg its abortion… whatta wise guy you are. Life is no more precious than your stupid ejaculate jokes… another disgusting PIG!
Opie Anthony Bubba Howard Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
jen,you are an emotionally manipulated person. some use biblical scriptures such as when u were in the womb I knew thee.look at Sampson,born with power. the truth is,most newborns are the results of breeders getting pregnant for no reason other than there own stupid selfish desires.most bible births had a purpose.todays society is full of illegitimate bastards whos only purpose is to retard progress. I can hear these whores crying now, my child my child,what about my child.Enough of its for the children bullshit.
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:29 am
No it’s not, but do you really want your seed swimming around in sewage? Have some self respect, use a tissue and throw it in the trash.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
instead of protesting abortion and risk pretty much nothing being your allowed to protest right in front of the building how bout really sticking your neck out there and protest about the ongoing war and violence in front of the veterans office. oh thats right, you can’t. funny how you jesus lovers condemn killing (abortion) but not when it comes to other things. i haven’t met a christian martyr yet, but they’ve been going on about it for years how persecuted they are. trust me there have been way more persecuted people than you. and thats why you J R SENTER, others like you, and everyone else caught up in it will reap what everyone has sown. what kind of a christain man talks like you about women keeping their legs shut. sounds as if alot of women probably do exactly that when your in the room.
Am Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 4:58 am
LOL
May 8th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
hey Ditto, are Jews responsile for everything?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
It should be said when a life is or isnt should never have to be debated and my opinion on the subject or yours doesnt matter because it simply should never ever get that far in a society,in a world with such readily available contraceptives.Its utterly ridiculous!!It shows you just exactly who is in the world,60 percent of woman single mothers,people-MASSES with no common sense whatsoever.
Its a shame and I wont share my take on abortion because it never should get that far,abortion shouldnt be a contraceptive,contraceptives are contraceptives.
We dont need to militirize the civilians,we dont need war,we dont need bail outs-we need common sense.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
yeah just let some doctor perform a late term abortion and blotch it up…put the baby in a cooler to die or smaaack it on the ground…….Evil will never prevail it will fail…
May 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
You’d think by now that people would understand one simple thing, have unprotected sex have baby. Murdering a conceived human being is just plain wrong.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
LOOK! Those are black cops arresting him! What SELLOUTS!
Just because Keyes knows the truth about o-bum-a and opposes him, the black sellout cops arrest him.
SELLOUT BLACK COPS! Shame on you! You’ll learn about your own SELLOUT alleged, supposed, president, the day he has completely betrayed black Americans. FOOLS!
Yeah, baraccoli o-bum-a is his name. HE IS MUSLIM! HE’S NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN! HE IS A SELLOUT TO BLACK PEOPLE!
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
fucking A. We need to stop this black on black violence. This should be called operation Uncle Tom
May 8th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
What’s the charge??????/
May 8th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I love Cartman, your character on South Park
May 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
no trip to the UK for him
May 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
go ALAN GO! alan is AWESOME!!
May 8th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
then a miscarriage is a godly abortion,right?
jen Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Its more of a Satanic abortion… why would u pin something like that on God anyway? I guess you guys like to forget there is a devil.. and you make him happy evertime u make retarded statements like that.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
jen, I’m being silly/serious. I’d like to here more of your thoughts. Be a friend E-mail me sometimes. joseph_online at cox dot net (@/.)
M&M Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
miscarriage is a natural death…duh…abortion is an unnatural murder…duh
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:51 am
It’s called a consequence of living in a sin ravaged world, the cause of which was people deciding they knew better than God, sound familiar?
May 8th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Interesting… so many comments regarding abortion. Reading the article, the debate over that issue was not what came to my mind first. I was thinking more about his rights regarding freedom of speech. Whether or not I personally agree with him or not does not have anything to do with his right to protest.
Gixley Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Very true. People keep focusing on the wrong issues here. The article’s not about whether abortion should be illegal or not, but about people’s right to protest. So glad someone figured that out.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
the people have a right to protest and women have a right to get abortions. I dont like it but its lawfull.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Dr. Alan Keyes is an even stronger Patriot leader than Dr. Ron Paul (whom I fought for as a state delegate). Dr. Paul is the lightning rod for the Great Awakening of the American Constitutionalist Movement, but it is powerful, brilliant and articulate American statesmen such as Dr. Keyes willing to actually GO TO THE FRONT LINE AND CONFRONT THE NWO NAZI FASCISTS IN THE STREETS that really proves his qualifications to be both President and Commander-in-Chief for the American Constitutional Republic.
Dr. Paul, Dr. Keyes, Chuck Baldwin and other strong patriot leaders must unite and organize forces to unite the American People before it is too late – Perhaps their united message will call US militiary soldiers and law enforcement officers to come to the defense of the American Constitutional Republic and drive out the Nazis in our midst.
God bless Dr. Keyes and the Patriot Movement!!
May 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
When it comes to abortion, like most other issues, I say only “tenth amendment.”
May 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
nice work MR. KEYES.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
hi
May 8th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Everyone makes mistakes, girls aren’t going to keep their knees together, it’s unnatural, sex is a healthy activity, just gotta take precautions as to avoid pregnancy.
Theres much more important things going on than to be crying about abortion, and a few ladies who didn’t want their kids. Grow the fuck up and mind your own business.
Take care of your own kids you pro-life fucks.
‘Whats it feel like to be dead? The same way it felt before you were born.’
Pro-Choicer Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 5:03 am
I agree with you!
May 8th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
As far as Im concerned the Govt shouldnt be involved with a woman and her pregnancy period! With that being said abortion is most definitely a sin. The thing I dont get is if you murder a pregnant woman even if she was sitting in the waiting room of an abortion clinic you get tried with two murders but at the same time its legal in most cases for that same woman to terminate that baby 10 minutes later. Seems a bit insane to me.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
seperation of church and state my a$$!
May 8th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I applaud this fine man’s efforts. Once you have a kid you’ll come around. I did.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
abort death not Life
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com
May 8th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
From Wikipedia: An abortion is the termination of a pregnancy by the removal or expulsion from the uterus of a fetus/embryo, resulting in or caused by its death.
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So, if it is termination of something (fetus/embryo) is because it is in progress; that something is developing and thus alive by definition. The end result of developing will be a human being with full characteristics of it.
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Termination will result in or caused by its death. So if termination cause death of that something (developing human being), then it is murder by law.
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The temporary developing place is the uterus of a woman. So, just because it is temporary will not give rights to terminate it. Same currently lawfully applies to just born human beings that, if killed by their own mother, will receive law consequences. The temporary place for fully development of a human being switched from the uterus to a home/house.
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You do not own a life or the right to decide over his /her destiny just because it is temporarily using your uterus (or because does not fit your current life style); regardless of using your umbilical cord for food supply. Wasn’t that what you used to yell to your parents (its my life and I do whatever I wanted to) when they wanted to impose on you.
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Nobody can stop a woman for giving up for adoption the newly born baby; thus terminating the temporarily bond between each other. The baby will continue its development without affecting the mother; the mother will continue her existence without the baby.
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Marketing names to make feel better: Abortion, unwanted pregnancy, women decides inside their own body, it is not considered neither alive nor human being because it is in a temporarily borrowed development shelter..
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If the unborn can be Aborted, the mother (owner of the uterus) should also be by petition to their parents at any developing stage of her life.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
so now anyone can be arrested for any reason. can one do a citizens arrest of a cop or security officer that is arresting a peaceful protester?.. oh..no.. that is obstruction of justice.. I’m confused.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
A micro organism is also a living thing in your body. Is it a sin to kill it? Life may begin at conception, but a human being doesn’t begin at conception. For the combination sperm-egg to develop, it needs the mother to eat right and all that. It isn’t a person. Its a life growing inside the mother, but there are many lifes growing inside everyone all the time. The thing that is created upon conception has no consciousness or feeling or emotion yet, those things develop in the womb, and that is a neurological FACT. Religion cannot change neurological facts. People against abortion always use that ‘life begins at conception’. So what? A human isn’t born at conception.
I also agree with ‘bearmarketrally’ that people should just take care of themselves. My hat goes off to Keyes.
jen Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
are you trying to imply that any baby that was a late term abortion would not feel the pain of their necks being snipped open and their brains being sucked out because it was still in the mother womb?? if its not a human being.. then why is it when they disect them to take them out they cut off arms, and legs etc… sounds like a human to me… people who agree with abortion should have the very methods used to have an abortion done on them!
IgnoranceIsSlavery. Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Jen stop trying to justify your ignorance. Matt is 100% correct and you just cant take the fact your religious views are in question. Go read a REAL book.
jen Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
I dont have to believe in God in order to know that murder is wrong! Have u ever seen an abortion done? I dont think anybody who has seen an abortion done would fight for a persons right to kill another person. Yes the babies use their mothers wombs as an incubator, but they otherwise live independently with their own beating heart.
Youre an idiot! Enough said…
Pro-Choicer Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 5:17 am
I also agree 100% with Matt.
“Yes the babies use their mothers wombs as an incubator, but they otherwise live independently with their own beating heart.”
Who are you calling an idiot? You are the one contradicting yourself. Fetuses cannot live both dependently (living in the mother’s womb as an incubator) and then independently at the same time. The fetus is connected to and dependent on the mother for life until they are born, they cannot live “independently” in the mother’s womb. If they were able to survive independently, what reason would they have to be in there?
Zack Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:47 am
These people like Pro-Choicer and IgnoranceisSlavery and Matt think they are being smart, but they are purposely missing the point in order to justify their selfish murdering viewpoint. A micro-organism is life but not a person…irrelevant. (A human life is worth more to humans than a bug life) A fetus is not independent…irrelevant.(Even after it is born it is not independent.) It is a matter of human responsibility to protect the baby. It shouldn’t boil down to personal convenience. I am an Atheist but I still have respect for innocent babies. These “people” are terminally selfish, that is all there is to it, bottom line.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Thank you, Alan Keyes.
God Bless You
Repent.Unite.Resist.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Good Job ALAN!
I’m Starting to like this guy – http://www.ontheissues.org/Alan_Keyes.htm
May 8th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
my God no, this is getting just a little bit disgusting now
May 8th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Aborted babies are with the Father in Heaven. On Judgment Day the woman and doctor that aborted (MURDERED) that child will face that child at the throne of Almighty God. “IT IS A FEARFUL THING TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING GOD.” It is NOT too late to get forgiveness and cleansing of your sin–BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND THOU SHALL BE SAVED.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
The real sad thing here is that we even have to have this debate about abortion. It never should have been. It should have never been an option. I dont care what any pro choice person has to say on it. That is a human being inside of that mother. That child has just as much of a right to live as you and I. The government should not have ever had to get involved in this debate, because abortion never should have been an option in the first place. Every morning I thank God for life, I thank God for my beautiful baby girl. Abortion was not even a thought or an option for us, and its a shame that we as Americans even have to debate about wether or not a baby has the right to live. Its a no brainer!
May 8th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I have always had the highest respect for Alan Keyes, and have supported him for years.
What he proves here is that there is no shame associated with arrest for those who act selflessly
in defense of morality and constitutional law. I hope we patriots will be able to conduct ourselves with an equal amount of dignity when we personally confront this sick NWO regime.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
why always about jews. I hate you people. People are individuals, deal with them individually.
lil Jimmy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Ramone,get me a gas chamber.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
fuck all of you pro-life idiots
fuck god, because god is imaginary
and stop trying to meddle in everything that doesn’t even concern you
roaddog Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
james—I read all the posts but yours made the most sense. You’re the winner.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Fuck you !!! God is imaginary for you , cause you don’t know shit , and this whole thing is
about morons like you meddling in a living , growing baby’s life , and ending it with gruesome
procedures , you tard !!!
James Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
what life? just because a lump of cells can beat doesn’t mean it is anything but an embryo. just a potential. I guess that masturbation is mass-homicide too if you define it that way. it is not an actual being any more than a tumor.
yellowhak1 Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
LOL! masturbation equals mass homicide
James Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Also I hope that you enjoy clinging to that pathetic story book you refer to as the bible.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
If it grows , it’s alive !!! I study vedic scriptures , the bible being , as you said ” a pathetic
story book ” , but why does everybody jump to conclusions as soon as I mention God !!!
Adelle Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Too bad you were not aborted. Then we would not have had such a jerk writing.
I can’t wait until YOU face GOD James. I bet your Mother is sorry she gave you a Bible name. You insult it.
IgnoranceIsSlavery. Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I hope you remember this when you finally pass. The thing you think of as ‘god’ is simply your higher self. When you die youll find yourself still conscious. still ‘Alive” simply in another plane. The views you so dearly hold on earth will, if strong enough, pass over into this other plane, where you continuously trap your self for all enternity in thIS cycle of reincarnation, because youre too STUPID to realize that god is actually YOURSELF. READ A GOD DAMN BOOK other than the bible. jesus christ.
Viet Nam Vet Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
James yes people should leave other peoples bodies and choices alone.
Some people should have to repeat this every morning……………………..
Please help me keep my big nose out of other peoples business.
As long as this debate can be kept going the Gov’t wins
We are all divided, They the gov wins and the stupid sheeple are fighting each other.
As far as you people who believe that a person is a child of god and is a person
at conception, I respect your right to believe that also.
The point here is some one was arrested for exercising their rights.
You see it is about rights and the right to disagree.
We all have that!
Why must people that post here have to make threats and cuss?
May 8th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
Man is made in the image of God. This twisted logic that killing micro-organism or parasite is on the same level as murdering one of God’s unique self-image creation is plainly a wicked person. You (Matt) are a danger to the human race and shouldn’t be allow to play with sharp objects. Himmler has nothing on you, turd-face! A child is dependent on others AFTER birth for many years also–apparently then killing 5 year old children in a school yard would not be beyond your filthy imagination.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
The abortion debate will never cease. I don’t think anyone disagrees that abortions in place of other forms of birth control is absolutely atrocious. I am pro-life, and used to believe there were no two ways about it, life has shown me some exceptions… my sister in law who is 5′-0″ and tiny became pregnant with multiple babies at once, her Dr. told her that she really should selectively reduce the number of embryos she carries so as to not kill all of the babies and/or likely herself. She was horribly upset about the dilemma, especially considering her conservative anti-abortion beliefs. She ultimately did reduce to only 2 babies, and she still didn’t carry the remaining two full term… so the Dr. was probably correct, and probably saved all three of them. This hasn’t changed my views on the sanctity of life, but it has made me realise that there are scenarios that are not always black and white. Life does begin at conception, but the law should never completely negate personal judgment.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I LIKE TO SEE MEN GET RAPED HAVE BABIES LIKE WOMEN AND LETS SEE HOW MANY OF THE SO CALLED MEN CARRY IT TO TERM. ALSO HOW MANY OF THOSE PRO-LIFERS SINNED IN THEIR OWN LIFE HAVE NO RIGHT TO THROW STONES. LETS TAX A 50% TAX FROM PRO-LIFERS TO SUPPORT THESE KIDS< ESPECIALLY KIDS OUT ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
If a chaste lady gets raped by some scumbag , maybe you got a case for an early herbal n’
gymnastics abortion , but why is there so many rapes ?!?
May 8th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
what was the crime?
Walking around with a babycarriage with spongebob and fake blood on it does seem suspicious/ludicrous but not very illegal. I do not believe the arrest had anything to do with being against abortion but about freespeech.. I think this then Alan is a Mayor infowarrior because he said that he would go to be arrested protesting President Obama’s invitation to speak and receive an honorary degree at the ceremony.. And his plan worked ;P
As hannibal would say: I love it when a plan comes together
May 8th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Uh…I THINK the point of the article was the abuse against being able to peaceably protest – NOT whether you are pro or con. GO ALAN!!!
freedom will prevail Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
My thoughts exactly! The abortion debate will never end..
May 8th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Kelly Tripucka calls Media Misdirection on this one ~
May 8th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I saw a video of an unborn fetus being ripped apart with forcepts and the lower jaw was wide-open and quivering and body writhing trying to get AWAY! I am sure not all of his neurological sensors were developed either, yet this baby gave out a silent scream! You are out of your league, Matt. They have therapy for people like you.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
to hell with Catholicism. we don’t need a Roman Catholic Empire.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Ramone, get me the scissors and suction hose.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Arguing abortion when the possibility of it ever being overturned in the courts is…wasted time at best…pure stupidity at the worst. There are common grounds that politicans have used to control the masses for their party mentality. Abortion, the death penalty, religion, family values, environment, taxes, etc etc. These are merely tools for control and those who argue these cases are well….tools.
You would do better in being a unified front of opposition to things that truly matter than divided among points of interest that are irrelevent in the grand scheme of things. What could we argue that are irrefutible except by those who are either unlearned fools or part of the system?
1. 9/11 was an inside job. Our government betrayed us and willingingly killed over 3,000 Americans without a 2nd thought.
2. The NWO exists and is encrouching further into our lives day by day. (Yet we spend our time arguing about abortion and religion…how novel)
3. Eugenics is part of the plan. Think of your family, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters etc etc. Now imagine them in a FEMA camp or locked down in house arrest due to martial law with our guns seized and forced to take innoculations that could potentially kill us. Do you want that? (arguing about abortion and religion certainly keeps us busy and surely helps the NWO)
4. More of our rights are being taken away and anyone with half a brain can see that this is actually happening right before our eyes. (but no, let’s argue about religion and abortion instead)
I could go on but what’s the point? Get unified…stop arguing over irrelevant matters. People believe in god or they do not…they are for or against abortion. I have seen so so so few times in my life where these two subjects were talked over by “rational” adults and suddenly one or the other person suddenly said: “Wow, your so right…I am totally going to change my mind right now!” No, you don’t. All you do is push people away. You need to focus on what matters. Stop wasting your time…look at your family and nation and decide what action you can do right now preserves their safety 5, 10…20 years from now?
Alexis Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Thank you Mike. I expected the readers and “bloggers” on this site to be a little more in tune with the fact that this issue is merely put in the spotlight to distract. Apparently we are all caught up in an issue that we are all WELL AWARE cannot be resolved through posts and paragraphs. Let’s get back to communication and start discussing the real issue- the fact that someone got arrested for protesting, a constitutional right, as well as the fact that a politician is partaking in such circus-like performances. I am not taking sides, I believe he has every right to do what he did, but you can’t deny it was over the top, at least for someone in the political spotlight.
Now let’s get down to the real issue- as long as they give us all something to ponder and argue about, we will be blinded to the fact that they are ARRESTING AND PUNISHING us for simply speaking out and protesting. Some will say “women have the right, he should honor that”, and others will say “go Mr. Keyes! God looks favorably on you”. Both of these arguments are valid, and both are distractions.
THEY ARE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE PEOPLE! We are supposed to be the ones calling them out for it, not trying to expose each other for being sluts and satan worshippers.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
It appears that the ability or inability to feel “PAIN” is the factor that gives license for murder. Ripping a dead corpse apart and crushing it’s head is against the law too. How much more scalding and crushing the head of live baby! pro-death people are a serious threat to all living creatures!
May 8th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Stop abortions,kill the sluts.Ramone,get me a shock collar.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
All I can say is that no one is looking into the root causes of this. Passing a law FOR or AGAINST ANYTHING is just patchwork.
Howabout instead of judging these people and butting heads needlessly back and fourth on a debate that’s obviously limited to opinion (which is the worst thing one could use to base any argument) we stick with the facts, figures, logic and root causes.
What drives these women to abortion? What causes this behavior in the first place. Their not “immoral”, they don’t “enjoy killing babies”, they don’t do it for convinience…
They do it because of societal pressure.
Usually from their parents…
On one extreme you have a 16 Y.O. girl born in the bible belt, gets pregnant. She’s flat broke, but her parents will never talk to her again if she gets an abortion. So out of fear she has the kid… Gone are her dreams and asperations of graduating high school or college. Now she gets to work at the waffle house for 8.50 an hour to keep the kid BARELY alive. She’ll likely never be able to afford to put her kid through college or get him a decent education or upbringing. She’ll likely end up either sticking with the guy who got her pregnant (whether she loves him or not) to maintain steady parenthood for her kid, who grows up to be a crack dealer because he’s not been educated well enough to know anything else.
On the other hand, you have parents that tell their daughter “if you get pregnant, we’ll be very dissapointed in you.” And they know instinctively that their parents would likely either disown them or lose a tremendous amount of respect for them (which is hard for any child). So, after struggling like hell to locate the father (which in these situations is usually hard to find) to no avail, she forks out almost 500 dollars, to go to planned parenthood, where she’s publicly humiliated, called a murderer, brought to tears, goes to the bullet proof glass window and signs in, lays down on a cold table, undresses in front of a complete stranger, has a vacuum put inside of her and has the child (which under a normal circumstance she loves and likely wants to keep BUT SIMPLY CAN’T) sucked out of her into a bucket. They throw her a few pills and call NEXT!!! Like she’s just a customer getting a hair cut.
It’s not the abortion that’s wrong, it’s the lack of compassion and understanding that we share with one another. It’s the fact that we treat everything as “business as usual”.
That we force our morality on someone else.
Extremeism in this argument, from either direction is not going to get us anywhere. If you have a problem with something happening in your society, you can’t fix the problem without first fixing the society.
You have christian fundamentalists, who murder doctors, support the death penalty and voted for Bush and all of his tyrannical decisions all while claiming to be pro life.
Then you have liberal fascists who support a womans right to choose, but think that the government should make most of our “choices” for us (banning smoking and guns to name a few), thus completely contradicting their original argument.
How about we consider the fact that our lives are the way they are and we are raised the way we are, because we allow opinions, ideologies, assumptions, extremism and outdated belief systems to govern us…
As opposed to fact, applicability, logic, science, tangibility and consensus.
Be as Christian or Satanist as you want, but keep your morals out of my government, out of my school and out of my head.
And stop harrassing these poor little girls, who are already making an incredibly hard decision and don’t need you asshole bible thumpers calling her a murderer on top of it. Howabout instead of screaming at these girls, god forbid you offer to give them a hug? Approach them with love and compassion, FORGIVE them for their moral mistakes, as you’ve been forgiven for yours.
The REAL world is not a pretty place. People get murdered, tortured, raped, robbed (just like in the animal kingdom!!!)
All the prosecution, accusations, finger pointing and doctor killing in the world won’t change that!!!
“Let he who is without skin, cast the first bone!!!”
-Me
May 8th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
So not all abortion is bad. For some people it is the right thing to do. So how can you say abortion is part of the NWO? If they were forcing abortion on the masses yes, but they are not so explain how it is part of the NWO.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
I commend Alan Keyes for his strong stand on life. Obama’s mothershould have aborted him as we may all die soon with him as president. He is a Muslim and he wants us all dead.
Watch for the next election. It won’t be FREE or he will lose.
Obama is a threat to our very society.
And NO, you freaks..Obama’s life is not worth having, not like an innocent baby who has not had a chance. This man shows us what he really is and he is a murderer. This is why I wished he had not been born…just like Hitler. We have another one here. Who is going to save this country from destruction??????
GOD bless you Alan. You are very brave.
IgnoranceIsSlavery. Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
haha oh my fucking god. Listen to this NUT. People like you justify my entire stance on religion. Your grammar is absolutely terrible. You racist little shit.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
And another thing…
If you choose to FORCE a woman into having a child against her will. Then whoever is the ENFORCER should be required BY LAW to take responsibility for that child, if the mother deems herself unfit to take care of it.
How very vindictive and judgemental you Church folk are. Not very Christ like of you…Is it not also murder to kill a Doctor? Or to stand by allow innocent children in Iraq to be slaughtered?
Why don’t I see any of you out at the sweatshops in phillipines, defending women that are FORCED to have coathanger abortions (ON THE JOB SITE) at gun point.
Oh that’s right, you really only seem to care about AMERICAN babies.
The only person who could possibly be anti-abortion without being a hypocrite is someone who owns an adoption agency.
IgnoranceIsSlavery. Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
YES YES YES !!! you tell these god damn church folk. They really need to take their heads out of their asses.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Well—I’ll probably get flamed for saying this but…..
For all that posted their opinions, kudos!!! We ALL have very STRONG opinions about the abortion issue – as well we should. It’s our RIGHT as Americans to be able to voice those openly and resepctfully. (Most were respectful – a few judgemental)
Alan Keyes was arrested for his opinion. In the USA he was arrested for demonstrating his views on an issue. NO ONE should judge another for their beliefs – that’s up to GOD!!! Our Government has NO business dictating what we believe or how we *Peacefully* show those beliefs. It’s our Constitutional Right!
The anger shouldn’t be with those who don’t agree with you – it should be toward those who want to slience our beliefs.
young rooster Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
You get nothing but love from me sister. If we met in person there’s this chance that I may not like you at all but, judging only by your posts, I’d fight and spill blood by your side in any battle against NWO scum.
Marine Drill Instructors Daughter Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
LOL – thanks Young Rooster – to quote Popeye “I yam, what I yam”. LOL I’m just a happily married mom & gramma who is old enough to see how radical our country has changed so far in my lifetime & will do everything in my power to keep our Constitutional Rights absolute for my children and grandchildren. I feel I owe that to my father and all the men and women who have given their lives for US.
The way the media, talk show radio (not including Alex and the like), politicians, etc.. love to pit demographics (Republican/Democrat – ProLife/ProChoice – All Religions etc.) against each other – that should serve as enough incentive for us who reject the NWO and the massive amounts of manure encompassing it all; to band together as ONE voice.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 5:13 am
I hear you , and you’re probably being polite using the word ” manure ” , cause manure
is very useful in a garden or a gas producing gizmo , notwithstanding the fact that cow
dung is actually antiseptic ( and proven in labs to be ) , and can be ( and is ) used to
clean and disinfect places !!!
Shadow hawk Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 12:42 am
Well said, I agree with Alan Keyes on the point that it doesn’t matter what I say, It’s that I have the right, and in some cases the moral perogative to say it!
When our right to speak openly and freely is in danger, we needn’t have so much in fighting about another topic.
Unfortunately, alot of the posters missed the point, due to their passion towards the other topic!
And to be honest, I almost missed it myself, til I saw that it was “entirely peaceful” protests!
And as one of the posters that I replied to asked how Ironic that he was arrested at a Catholic university protesting abortion. It is ironic that the protest needed to be staged there, but the Catholic Dioses have never been real big on free speech to start with!
May 8th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I hate pro-choice people, they are little goblins with picket signs{and elitist foundation’s funding}.
IgnoranceIsSlavery. Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I hate parochial little shits. GO read a book you retard. Expand your ridiculously limited perspective.
Sad Day for the Republic Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Only GOD can create a life. Man and women can only do the act but it takes the breath of GOD to make it alive. GOD told Job that “you will stand like a man and answer me”. All of us will bow before him.
I challenge anyone to prove that you can create a life without our creator.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Any volunteers to adopt? Lots of babies, who’s mother’s chose life are available.
May 8th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
So are most of the ” doctors ” who came up with the tools or devices to perform these
hellish deeds !!!
P.S. They even was one ” doctor ” who had crates of aborted fetuses in his back yard , in
the San Fernando valley !!!
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Abortionists are the losers and the washouts of the medical profession, quacks all of them. You never hear of a doctor aspiring to be an abortionist.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:22 am
I hope so , even though , in cases of a chaste lady getting raped , I would probably
condone an herbal / gymnastics early abortion , hence require the help of an expert !!!
P.S. As well as the help of other experts , and someone to mop up for both events !!!
May 8th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
That dirtball arresting keys has to realize he’s a piece of sh*t. You stupid PIG traitor! How’s it feel to be a mercenary employed by the Federal Reserve and International Bankers?!!!
May 8th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Randall Terry is a tool. He makes his living off of stirring people up. I can’t believe he was on today’s show. Keyes (another tool) shouldn’t have been arrested. Everyone should have a right to free speech. A woman has a right to decide whether or not she wants to carry a pregnancy. Plain and simple. I love how the guys are the main leaders of the anti-choice viewpoint.
May 8th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
“the military calls these non-humans with no rights “enemy combatants”… so what should we call these babies, “unwanted fleshy burdens”?”
Exactly what they technically are: parasites until they leave the body. For those nine months of development, they are dependant on the mother (host) for life. You take it out, it dies. What benefit does an embryo have biologically to that individual mother? The risk that it could kill the mother at the slightest complication. It’s the woman’s own body, they have the say whether to have something in them removed or not.
And yes, they do own the bodies inside of them. Until the body turns 18. Then it belongs to the government. You should know how it goes.
You’re wrong on that last point, though. Your logic amuses me. An embryo is a blank slate until that nine months is up. After that, it become a part of the world outside. It’ll be given a name, an identity, and it’ll be exposed to connections outside the mother’s body. Until then, it has no worldly connections. You murder a grown adult, you are taking away an identity, someone’s father, someone’s lover, someone who is already established in the world. Same for a not-yet fully grown child; you kill a born child, you take away someone’s daughter, someone’s best friend. You kill a fetus, you’re killing a clump of cells that would otherwise be causing someone pain on the way out in the next few months.
People are right that abortion shouldn’t be carelessly used as a form of birth control, but neither should the option be taken away from those who actually need it.
Gixley i completely agree with you. I’m disgusted to find so many religious nuts in here. You people are honestly retarded. Perhaps the fact i find babies abhor able disgusting little creatures has to do with the origin of my feelings on abortion. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it in my opinion. A person has the right to CHOOSE. I refuse to be dictated by some baseless religious ideology. Gixley you are absolutely amazing.
Dave Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
the morals of this country are based on God’s word. the bible says “I knew you in the womb”. your own morals as well as man made laws are a product of the human institution of government and logic that is based on nothing more than one’s opinion. there are many people with an identity that the world would be better off without them and many are part of the nwo but because God said “thou shall not commit murder” they are still here. i urge to read a bible. there is far more wisdom in there than this crazy reasoning you babble off in your post.
May 8th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Black people now have a higher rate of abortions than live births…ROFL!
May 8th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born……Ronald Reagan
May 8th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Ditto comment:
I agree that Israel is guilty of murder on a grand scale…after all most wars are caused by jews.
===================================
Can I see the stats and proof of what you say above.
There have been many, many, wars on our planet. It seems to me that narcisstic power mad people start these wars of any nationality.
Lately it has been the Bilderberg Group and their secret covert operations behind the scenes, which trace back to Eugenics, and the elite backed Nazi’s. You know, the ones that killed Jews by the millions.
Have you noticed how extremely Narcisstic our current leader is in our own White House?
May 8th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Alan is a daily listner of Alex’s show.
If these people honeslty wanted to prevent abortions they’d be out giving quality sexual education presentations.
May 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Ditto,
Majority of the abortionists are jews,go figure.
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Again, where are you getting your stats and information from sir. I think these are your own personal opinions and not real facts.
Show me the proof of what you say above.
May 8th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Arrested for what? I like Alan Keyes. Good work for taking a stand!!!
May 8th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Way to go Brother Alan for standing up for the Truth! What is Truth ? The Word of God is the Truth. (The Holy Bible) God said “I knew you when you were in your Mother’s womb.” Once conception takes place and God places a spirit into the baby it becomes a person, period. Abortion is Murder. God loves us all so much He was willing to sacrifice His Life on the cross for us. Can you imagine the Pain He experienced? I love You Jesus! Thank you for saving me with Your Love. Aint nothin like it people and I’ve tried just about everything out there. I’m not judging anyone. I’m just saying we will give account of our words and deeds on Judgment Day to God Almighty. He IS our Judge. Choose wisely. I choose Love, Mercy, and Grace. The only thing is is that once you die you can’t change your mind! Think about it. Love and Peace to you!
May 8th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
salvation is proven to the Calvinist when the person admits they remain sinning and in rebellion against God
to a calvinist a false Christian is a person who forsakes sinning and walks holy
calvinists can pray to their god all they want but all that happens is their noses just grow longer and skinnier
abortion and Obama
May 8th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Way to go Alan. Many of us are proud of your stance on this issue. God bless you!
May 8th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
50,000,000 and counting
It’s not the jackpot in a lottery!!
Since Roe v Wade in 1973 thats how many unborn have been slaughterd in the United States alone. Animals that we kill for food are more humanely “terminated”.
…and we have the gall to put “In God We Trust” on the money that pays for these murders.
If the baby is “unwanted”, we have excuses to allow for it’s termination.
If a baby is “wanted”, we’ll spare no expense to save the life. Babies only 23 weeks old have been successfully delivered. Women seem to want the right to control their own bodies, but it seems like it’s a different body they are aborting. Why not extend abortion rights to 2 years old? How can a life be acceptable a week after birth, yet killed a week before birth? We will send food to foreign countries to save the children, yet wage genocide on our own unborn!!
Now we “grow” human embryos in labs to “harvest” stem cells. Huh? Sounds to me like we create human life to kill it, in order to “find cures” for other people… what? So we are killing one group of people in the name of science so corperations can make money for cures of another group of people?? ummm, ok…. sounds great when we were the lucky ones that were born!
Shame on us! In America the unborn have roughly a 1 in 3 chance of being killed. The mothers womb is the most dangerous place in America to be!!
And we sit in church and ask for blessings from God…. yea, right… we deserve fire and brimstone!!
Battle Hymn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Thank you, Tom. You replenish my faith that the Truth is marching on.
Overworld Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:42 am
I’ll second that!
May 8th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
i like Alan Keyes a lot. hs a awake to the wicked nwo and knows what a fraud and illegitimate presdient obama is
abortion is very evil and un-godly so much love and respect go out to alan for standing up for whats right
a REAL black man u can be proud of unlike the madison avenue created judas obama
May 8th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I wonder how many anti abortion supporters would still support it if Jesus himself told them it wasn’t a sin. Not trying to pick a fight, but as a former bible thumper I’ve been disappointed far too many times by others twisting the bible to suit their needs.
Despite this, I support Alan’s right to protest. I completely disagree and think the tactics were over the top, but I believe they should be able to peacefully protest as long as they do not interfere with others right to disagree. Which means you don’t get in each others faces like ignorant angry idiots …
doctordrewl Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
I’m with you… I understand the passion, but it’s hard to take anybody serious whose rolling around with a bloody SpongeBob….
I personally ascribe to the David Icke’s body computer model…. whereby the human body is more of a vessel than anything…and therefore, conception is more appropriately described as the moment our mind takes hold of the biological vessel. In this scenario, the emergence of a primitive brain from pluripotent germ cells, would mark the true start of conscious life as we understand it, because you need to build the hardware before you can run the software. Now I’m not for abortion, but I’m not sure life (in the sacred sense) starts when sperm and egg are still smoking cigarettes….
May 8th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
THAT’S REALLY CREATIVE, BABY CARRAGE’S WITH BABY DOLLS IN THEM WITH MOVIE BLOOD ON THEM. I HAVE SEEN MR KEYES BEFORE ON TV, HE CALLED OBAMA AN ABOMINATION. NICE.
BUT YES THE GUB SHOULD NOT MEDDLE IN THE LIVES OF PEOPLE IN THIS WAY. I’M CLAD I WAS NOT ABORTED AS UN PLANNED. THE SECOND THAT SPARK OF ELECTRIC IS CREATED THE BEING HAS LIFE AND THEREFORE A SOUL. THIS IS JUST MY THEORY. WITHOUT EVEN GETTING INTO “ANY” RELIGIOUS AREA. IT’S ALL ABOUT FREE CHOICE BY THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE GUB JUST WANTS TO CONTROL THAT PERIOD.
SO FUCK EM.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Keep the sheeple divided and arguing………………………….
Then Steal the hen house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Omega Man Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
A healthy debate is always good in a free society. You get to hear all sides.
The only ones that STILL have BLOOD SHED in this debate and after are Children,
But hey that’s OKay to some of you idiots. I’ll keep fighting for the rights of Children!!
May 8th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Why is it that a person that kills a pregnant woman gets charged for a double killing which invokes the death penalty but a woman that take the life of her unborn human being is allowed and in some cases even praised by some others for doing it ? She should also be charged with murder along with the politicians and court judges that say it is legal. If this is to be then many men and women in prison on death row should be taken off of death row and charged for only 1 killing.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
i think that everyone should have the choice to choose for themselves what is suitable. you all say you dont want your tax money to go to someone who chooses to have an abortion which i agree tax money should not go towards that..but what about your tax money that puts these unwanted childen thru 18 years in foster care feeling neglected and unwanted. or how about your tax money that is being used to kill hundreds of thousands of iraqi people. or the tax money being used to arrest people who are having peaceful protest. there are already so many things in life you dont have the ability to choose but you think you can make choices for another human. i think that everyone has the ability to make a choice for themselves and no one, not a government, or company, or another person should make choices on behalf of that person. I believe that the choice should be to the women and the man who made the offspring. I also dont think that people should force there personal beliefs on society as a whole because everyone should be free to have PERSONAL beliefs. i also agree with bearmarketrally in that everyone should take care of themselves…how they choose to do that is exactly that.. a choice
Battle Hymn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
And someone “chooses” to kill their unborn child, what “choice” has that child been given? The answer is “no choice”. Not one choice. That child will never grow to know the joys and sorrows of life. We all should be thanking God every day that we were not aborted, that we were given a chance, that we can make “choices”. Seek the truth or run from it. Sooner or later, we will all face the Truth.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
It is interesting. So many here are angered at the govt, etc for taking our freedoms and yet anti-abortionists insist on taking the freedom of choice away from everyone else and claim God requires them to push this belief on us all. Is it possible to just respect different beliefs and not use religion as a crutch to bash and attack people that don’t agree. Why can’t you live the way you want, raise your children any way you like, but allow others to do the same. Why must we shove our beliefs down each others throat.
I enjoy this site. After skimming through the bible quotes, haters and less thoughtful comments, there are almost always some provoking comments that actually allow me to consider a different prospective than my own.
Battle Hymn Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Abortion is the tool of those who follow the georgia guidestones. I hope you will seek out the Truth about abortion. As an adopted child, who is now seeking to adopt a child, I can tell you with absolute certainty that abortion is not a choice for the child, and neither was conception. The only “choice” the aborting woman seeks is to escape the consequences of her previous choices. If one cannot grasp the miraculous gift of a new life, how can that person have true gratitude for any gift? Abortion is wrong, and that is an absolute Truth.
Omega Man Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
I was adopted too, Battle Hymn. Glad I wasn’t killed as a baby. I’ve had to make it in this world the whole way and all the pain and suffering , good times and bad, have made me who I am. And that’s OK with me. I’m a God fearing man…(That’s the God of the Living by the way).
The beginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord.
Man can only kill you, (We all get to die one day)
But God has power over your Eternal Soul and Eternity is longer than a few short years here.
Life is worth Living, Love is worth Sharing, Freedom is worth Fighting for.
Give a child a chance, Please. Don’t kill them.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
PS
On what grounds was he arrested?!? Pfft. I see no reason for his arrest cited.
Craven LeVay Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
On the premise that rights don’t exist and you can be arrested for exhaling, don’t you know every time you exhale you contribute to global warming!
Marine Drill Instructors Daughter Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
They need a reason??? From what I’ve been seeing lately, you can be arrested and/or beaten without committing a crime at all!! Just a small example are: Steven Anderson Pastor, National guard Sergeant Mark England & John Ziegler.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
You mean BRO. OBAMA will not help Alan Keyes. Man he (OBAMA) dont like blacks? Thats right OBAMA is a muslim and muslim dont help there own. WOW and we want OBAMA as our leader?
May 8th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
legal or not abortion is nothing more then child sacrifice….
The more we change the more we stay the same….
The ancients in Phoenicia and Carthege all practiced child sacrifice.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Masonic Satanists like Obama just love it and cant get enough of it…
Even David Icke will tell you we are ruled by Satanists who call on baphomet and demons.
Why does Obama have church symbols covered up? Obviously Satanists detest these symbols.
I wonder if Obama hung out with Anton LeVay who claimed to have done many child sacrifices.
He hung out with Bill Ayers and other known with questionable character…
At least Alan Keyes has a real soul and compassion for life, God and country….
Goes to prove its not about race but character….JC Watts or Alan Keyes would have been a better black man for the job then the fraud Obama.
Ask Obama if he is a Prince Hall Mason? I bet on it….To get anywhere in politics you got to belong to the CFR, Masons, Trilateral Commission or a few other secret societies to get to the top.
Bet David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski have Obama in their back pocket while Herr Kissinger calls for the New World Order…..EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN FUHRER
May 8th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
If women were right with God, they would never and could never have abortions and if their husbands/boy friends were equally spiritually evolved, they wouldn’t pressure these women to abort what would be their own children.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
yea,and dont buy the I was raped argument. little whores use that to hide the fact that it was consentual. cant let daddy know his little angel got some
Billy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
That’s how I’ve always felt. I heard a statistic that just 1% of abortions are due to rape and incest. So, that rape argument is really stupid. The fact is kids these days want to screw around and not have to pay for the consequences.
May 8th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Now will they say Alan Keyes is a racist? The powers that be are pathetic. Alan Keyes you are a great American!
Ssg Rhino Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:11 am
I think it’s Obama that’s the bigot. He hates babies.
May 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Not to pick a fight with a bunch of bibles but in the book “Freakonomics ” the author proves that the crime drop in the 1990’s was caused by roe v wade and not the gun laws. Makes sense to me. I say lets show that we can take care of the kids we have before we worry about the one in the womb
Zurian Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Proves? And how exactly did he do that in a statistically rigorous manner?
Lou Cypher Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Yes statistically, I know you can prove anything with statistics it was just interesting thats all.
May 8th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
I live 76 Miles from Notre Dame! Poor guy…so when do we fight back?
Beck smacker Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 2:59 am
WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE DECIDES.
May 8th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
GOD BLESS HIM, truly a righteous man.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
He should have been arrested and it’s a good thing.
This man obviously has no common sense to think he should be able to dictate to all women what they can or cannot do.
These right wing extremists have to go, or we will be back to a new Dark Ages.
Can you imagine the laws of this country being set by organizations like the Family Research Council (and others of that ilk)?
And better yet, can you imagine such laws being enforced by the son of the co-founder of FRC?
And yes, I am talking about that “Christian Mercenary” organization known as Blackwater (now Xe).
reader Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Oh and I’m a moron.
Beck smacker Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:01 am
I’LL 7 BILLION THAT.
Ssg Rhino Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Choose man over God and you’ll regret it for eternity.
Beck smacker Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:02 am
THE CHOICE IS NOT MAN OVER GOD, ITS MAN OVER JESUS. ITS IN THE BOOK.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
That cop is clearly racist.
Omega Man Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Yeah, it’s obvious. Racial profiling pure and simple.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Keyes should have been the first black president instead of Obama and he would have if the GOP establishment had not done everything they could to undermine him and freeze him out of the party. I don’t blame him for leaving the Republican Party and starting a third party.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
God Bless his soul. God Bless Alan and all pro-lifers.
Beck smacker Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:07 am
IF MAN KNEW HOW THIS PLANET OPERATES, THERE WOULD NEVER BE AN ABORTION. i’M SICK OF TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY SHOULD ALREADY KNOW, I CAN’T BE THE ONLY ONE THAT REMEMBERS HIS OWN BIRTH AND WHERE HE WAS BEFORE HIS BIRTH.
May 8th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
check this guy out he is taking over youtube spreading the word about the nwo claiming his songs are Eminems from his new album. Its a smart tactic and its working and everybody likes his shit so far. Jason X
http://www.youtube.com/user/RNBJ22
Revy Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
We need to work with artists like this if we want to actually do something about the NWO they are the ones that can rally the troops and educate the masses
Omega Man Reply:
May 8th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
I agree with you Revy!! Though I don’t speak or understand “JIVE”, I got the message pure and simple. Imagine how well it would be received by the younger generation that could understand the lyrics.
eh, er, Props!? to Jason X
Gotta go see if my teenagers have heard of him yet.
Revy Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:01 am
Im 27 and I understand the message I think that music is key to educating the masses about the new world order and the bullshit that is going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
May 8th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
May 17th is coming!
See who is the coward!
Who wants to bet B.O. is a no show?
Dr. Keyes is what we need as President.
The Usurper, his appointments & those who covered for him throw them out!!!
Nothing he has done is valid. Reset Our System.
Support Dr. Keyes.
Also, Pastor Manning is speaking out in Harlem.
Calling for Boycott of U.K. in support of Michael Savage.
Pastor Manning will not back down & will see the Usurper out of office.
2012 Movement http://www.atlah.org
VICTORY IS OURS TODAY!!! REACH OUT & CLAIM IT!!!
Also, A person in the state of LA was taking in and questioned because of a “Don’t Tread On Me” Bumper Sticker!!! What next throw every person in Kentucky in jail?
I don’t care if you’re 105 yrs. old you can go & get you a “Don’t Tread On Me” bumper sticker and & show your support. (that will keep them busy for a while)
May 8th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
whine whine whie act macho act tough on the internet….
the satanic elite do not play games
they are not into satanism and the occult for no reason (watch ‘brotherhood of darkness’ and ‘order of death’)
they love war, blood-sacrifice, death, murder, rape, child-abuse (watch ‘conspiracy of silence’)
world war II was an inside job, all the men who died on D-Day in WWII, was a blood-sacrifice to demons…
the satanic elite know their master and his Enemy (God)
this is not a game, they want your life, your family, and your soul….
again, get it, you were born and bred and conditioned by the elite to be a slave on a global plantation…
WAKE UP!
this is not a game, or a place for whiners and people acting tough
cherish your family
love others
feed the poor
humble yourself
seek God instead of pleasure
be safe
Steven
dont wait for anyone else, do it now, go tell your family you love them, read a bible, pray, BE HUMBLE, make copies of dvds and give them to policemen, firemen, pastors, soldiers, will you do that? what are you waiting for, TIME IS SHORT!
contactable on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
Beck smacker Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:12 am
LOVE THAT MONIKER STEVE, (STEVENBATMAN) RIGHT OUT OF THE CAVES OF HELL AND DARKNESS. DO YOU WEAR YOUR CAPE IN THE HOUSE AND WHEN YOU GO TO CHURCH?
May 8th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Goodbye 1st amendment. I hardly knew ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4iwrL_rdTo
May 8th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Watch this guys music and listen carefully
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=channel
May 8th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
Important information, very glad you posting this. I enjoy learning new things everyday so I like subscribing to blogs like yours. Charles
May 8th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
You know who did it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
May 8th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
This entire debate is a distraction. If we want abortion legal, we need rules, laws, troops, cops, etc. If we want to outlaw it, we need rules, laws, troops, cops, etc. Either way it benefits the police state.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Whether or not I agree with Alan Keyes on this issue, I can,t help but like the man. He is brutally honest and stands by his beliefs. I wish either him or Ron Paul could have been president instead of who we have now.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:01 am
A couple of things I thought I’d never seein America,
1. A 1/2 white Kenyan born communist as president.
2. The murder of babies supported by catholics.
3. God fearing patriots arrested for exercising their First Amendment rights.
I love my country, but this government needs to go.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:08 am
MUSIC is the means to educate the population to unite for one common cause, to fight the NWO
May 9th, 2009 at 1:16 am
I just hate the way this topic gets thrown around and people are manipulated towards one extreme or the other.
NO. GOVERNMENT. INVOLVEMENT OR SUPPORT–ONE WAY OR THE OTHER–WHATSOEVER.
All that they know how to do is complicate things further.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:17 am
New edit to Zeitgeist ll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
May 9th, 2009 at 1:20 am
If only the truth that abortion is murder could just be acknowledged, maybe then we could move on to fixing the issue. But, as long as people put themselves and what is good for them before doing what they know is right there will be no real meaningful conversation. No one has a right to commit murder, and so once acknowledged as such abortion can be something a person has a right to choose. Pretty straight forward. Obama worries about terrorists being mistreated but he is a dang heathen when it comes to the abortion issue. You might be better off just admitting your Muslim BHO, cause God of Abraham does not approve of you.
Beck smacker Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:15 am
LETS NOT FORGET THE GOD OF ABRAHAM MURDERED HIS OWN KID. DON’T WE ALL STRIVE TO BE LIKE THE FATHER?
Omega Man Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
God the Father ALLOWED His Son Jesus to be payment for the Worlds sins. You are forgiven of those sins by knowing the Father. You won’t know the Father unless you know Jesus.
Accepting Jesus (the Word of God) into your heart and seeking Him out, will open your mind by the Power of the Holy Spirit, and all of your sins will be taken as far away as the East is from the West.
Come just as you are. God already knows you. There are no secrets. Nobody is perfect but Jesus. He is the example for us all to be like. He overcame death by the Power of God and Rose again after three days.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the Beginning with God.
There is Hope for us all… Look to Jesus for comfort in all lifes worries. He will help.
Know Jesus, Know Peace — No Jesus, No Peace
I am made perfect in the sight of God since my sins are forgiven by the sacrifice of Jesus.
God doesn’t see me as a sinner though I am a cantacerous smart @ss at times and need God to put me back into place. Thankfully there is a direction I can go that is Right.
It’s my choice to be saved. No man can EVER take that from me.
Jesus Saves.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:23 am
I meant, “No one has a right to commit murder, and so once acknowledged as such, abortion CAN’T be something a person has a right to choose”
May 9th, 2009 at 1:25 am
There was a time when black people in America were considered only 3/5’s human. It took a lot of brave souls to fight against such stupidity. I am glad to see someone stand up for what’s right and stand up against such stupidity, and killing a human being whether it is growing in a woman or out of woman without a “just cause” is murder. There is no debate. Just Google “the hand of hope” picture. 21 week old fetus grabbing the hand of the surgeon who saved her life. Those of you who stand on the side of abortion because culture says it’s OK would probably fall for the laws that once said black people only amounted to 3/5’s human because… well the majority believes it is so. There is no such thing as a woman’s right to choose. It’s a lie from those who hate life. All people are created equal. All colors, all ages, and all sizes. It is not a woman’s right to discriminate who lives and dies.
May 9th, 2009 at 2:09 am
You all want gov. out of yer life but you want gov. to make it illegal. I am against abortion too but you can’t just blanketly make it illegal. I’ve had family who’ve had to make tough, life/death decisions concerning this and it was something only they could understand. Should we promote it through things like planned parenthood? No but it can’t be totally illegalized and by the way, and although its sad to say, its a way secondary issue these days, with the world as we know it in actual peril.
Beck smacker Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 3:18 am
AS LONG AS ABORTION IS A BIG MONEY MAKER, IT WILL CONTINUE. THAT IS A TRUEISM FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS A MONEY MAKER.
brainy smurf Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:51 am
is this the Glenn Beck smacker?
May 9th, 2009 at 3:25 am
Whether you agree totally with the brother or not,
we have to give him maximum credit for GUTS to stand up
for what he believes!
We lost a grand opportunity to roll back the legal slaughter
of innocent babies when Dr. Paul didn’t get the nomination.
Ron Paul makes a terrific argument against abortion FROM
A DOCTOR’S POINT OF VIEW. The devil’s crowd can’t say
he’s simply arguing a point of religion. Paul BACKS IT UP
WITH MEDICAL FACTS.
I must say Alan Keyes just rose in our admiration about
a thousand per cent. It’s one thing to grandstand talking
against abortion. It’s quite another to show some SPINE
and literally GO TO JAIL for your beliefs!
May 9th, 2009 at 3:28 am
So, whoopty do! He got his sorry ass arrested. So why was he at Notre Dame in the
first place? Obama didn’t go there to advocate abortion. Keyes could have gone anywhere else or he could have protested at any other time. Obama didn’t go there to advocate abortion.
This buffoon was there grandstanding because he doesn’t have anything better to do.
Abortion, gays, and guns! What a simplistic world view! Maybe Janeane Garofalo wasn’t exaggerating after all.
What a bunch of ditto heads!
May 9th, 2009 at 3:41 am
Get ready and take aim at me, all you pro-abortion stone-throwers!
No matter how much blathering on they do about “a woman’s own body”,
“they don’t get pregnant by themselves” etc the HARD FACT of it is this:
Women hire a “doctor” to cut up their unborn child and suck it out of
their womb TO COVER UP THEIR SIN!
If “Church People” ever stop judging girls in this trouble and START
HELPING them either by adopting the baby or supporting the mother
and her child THE ABORTION RATE WOULD DROP DRAMATICALLY.
“Christians”, if you’re not willing to HELP that poor girl, then SHUT UP!
May 9th, 2009 at 4:17 am
We don’t need new laws to stop abortion, murder is already illegal .
@ young rooster: “CHRISTIANITY: Everyone has afterlife (heaven/hell), thus the body is unimportant.”
This isn’t true. That would rationalize the case for abortion.
19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
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It appears from the article that Mr. Keys was arrested for saying he will protest Obama..
May 9th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Yeah, all life is precious and only god has the right to decide who goes and when. But strap that other !@#$er in the electric chair and fry him for his heathen beliefs.
You Jesus freaks are just as wrong. Wake up and smell the centuries of global enslavement at the hands of elitists who thought they had some divine right to rule over others. I’m sure that’s what Bilderberg thinks too.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Here’s the bottom line on this issue.
If the NWO wanted abortion illegal it would be.
You support abortion you support the NWO.
Period.
Dusty Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:50 am
NWO has it’s own religion, and it requires infint sacrifice. every thing points to this. The womans right thing is a bunch of crap that thay put on us, it was given when a woman mad s $.60 on a mans $1.00, and thay went nuts with haveing a right all to them selfs, and never looked to see who gave it to them womanslive shit, we where being thretin with world over population than, and wamo we get this shit, kill you’r kids lady in the name of being able to, just like the dog that licks it self, because it can.
Eric Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Great point. The ancient pagan cultures practiced the heinous crime of infanticide. During the time of Muhammad, the pagans would savagely and ritualistically kill their first born girl. Muhammad opposed this practice and waged war on these savage pagans the rest of his life. Moses also battled against these pagan cultures that sacrificed children to Moloch. The new world order is nothing more than a continuation of this death cult that gets off on killing the defenseless and weak.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:34 am
If the NWO elitists wanted us to waste our time debating religious and political cr@polla instead of fighting them, we would be… oops, wait a minute…
May 9th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Abortion is Genocide
The Genocide Awareness Project: http://www.abortionno.org/gap.html
May 9th, 2009 at 8:24 am
jason, you say its not our right to defy nature….
have you ever been on an aircraft? people used to say – if god wanted me to fly he would have given me wings…I could give you another 1000 examples if you wanted…
religion always leads to arguments that are based on emotion and not fact.
church and state are still far too connected and this is part of our problem.
I think theres a lot of people here saying they want true freedom but have no fucking idea what it is…
May 9th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Opps, that was thae late 50,s early 60’s
May 9th, 2009 at 9:03 am
A good man
May 9th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Imagine what it must feel like to have a drill bit drilled into your skull, while you are very awake and conscience of whats happening. The little baby still feels pain until the vacume sucks out enough brain matter to kill this helpless little person. The last thought of a baby being murdered might be,”mommy what’s happening? Why are you letting them hurt me? I hope your free now Mommy.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:50 am
He could be a good Vice President for Ron Paul.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am
The fact remains: you can easily trace the abortion movement back to Marget Singer and the Eugenics movement. Rockefeller funded Social engineering in America has aimed to convince everyone that human life has no value. Those who support murdering babies have fallen for New World Order propaganda.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:00 am
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May 9th, 2009 at 10:05 am
If anyone is serious about removing the Vatican Illuminati out of power then we need to replace the Vatican’s roman gregorian calendar system that all of the nations are connected to and that causes the blindness in people so that they don’t unite as one in the Kingdom of God. God has the New Jerusalem calendar system here today to put the Vatican Illuminati out of power. you may review it here. If Alex and his supporters want to join me in putting the Vatican Illuminati out of power then read this.
http://alphaomeganewjerusalem......usalem.pdf
May 9th, 2009 at 10:26 am
All of this activity is Al qadea.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Abortion = Rockefeller funded eugenics death education foundation dehumanization child sacrifice lucifarian evil ritual.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am
KUDOS AND ADMIRATION TO A.KEYES. RESPONSIBILITY OF THE WOMAN IS TO ‘AVOID’ THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THE ACT. ABORTION IS MURDER, BUT THE GOOD THING IS THIS MENTALITY IS NOT PRO-CREATING AND WILL EVENTUALLY DIE OUT. THERE YOU GO LIBS, DIE
AWAY.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Dang it all anyway, why won’t you people just quietly sit and drink the KoolAid. What’s wrong with you guys anyway? KoolAid is good for you. It purifies you of your resistance. It streamlines your minds.
KoolAid, purging resistance since 1978.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Alan Keyes is a great American! Only a real American would go to jail for his / her beliefs and fight for what they believe in! I am a white American and I am behind what Alan Keyes has to say. He is a down to earth person and makes sense.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:31 am
So,
basically, in todays America, the value of life hangs in a balance. The balance can tip one way or another. If the “fetus” or “baby” is wanted, it lives… if it’s not wanted, it dies. There is NO value to human life anymore unless the human life is wanted, or can be harvested for “research”. That’s frightening to me!! Seems similar to Hitler’s justifications for killing his “unwanted” millions, after all, he classified them as “non-human”… why was it wrong for Hitler to kill those people, how can abortion can be justified? I’ll tell you why…
Hitler – 6,000,000+ Said all Jews were sub human, experimental resource, usless eaters
U.S.A. – 50,000,00+ Said all babies are fetus, and sub human, usefull tissue for research
It’s because we “come up” with research (from an atheistic science of course) that says, “A fetus is just a blob of tissue”.
This is called DENIAL…. it’s the first psychological protective event to try to protect one’s mind, that a traumatic event just occurred, or is about to occur. It’s disbalief. “I can’t believe what I’m seeing!!” or “I can’t believe that this is happening to me!!” or “I can’t believe I’m pregnant!!” Kinda see my point?
“DENY THAT A FETUS IS HUMAN LIFE, SO KILL AT WILL” – Roe v Wade, 1973
“DENY JEWS ARE HUMAN, SO KILL AT WILL” – Hitler’s point of view
after all, whatever you want to call it, it is alive… and we do kill it….
we burn it…
we poke it…
we suck the brains out…
we cut it apart…
we trash it…
…we grimace and say “Whew, I’m glad that’s over!!” It was “only a fetus”… or was it?
Of course it’s human life, and of course we feel bad about it. But if we can insulate ourselves from the reality that we are killing our own race through “definitions” of words, then we need to question whether or not we are “one nation under God”….
or an athiestic, scientific, occultic, corperate fasism
“You will know them by thier deeds”
“Actions speak louder than words”
“For him that knows what is good and fails to do so, for him it is sin”
We had trials for Hitler’s genocide…. called the Nuremberg trials
When will the trails for infantacide begin? Never, because the unborn have no money for lawyers
Hats off to Keyes for making a stand in what we should believe in…
May 9th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Alan Keyes is taking a stand for not just a moral principle, but for a natural one.
1. The Declaration of Independence states that ALL men (even women!…of any age!) have the right to LIFE, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
2. At the moment of conception, all that a person will ever be is there, in place, in the DNA for that person’s entire LIFE. The potential to be another Alex Jones, or Alan Keyes, or Andrew Jackson is THERE at conception. That person has the right to LIFE.
3. Our responsibility is to protect that LIFE, especially an INNOCENT one. Our Constitution was established to protect this NATURAL right along with liberty and happiness.
4. If we won’t think that NATURAL rights should be protected, then we won’t think the Constitution should exist either.
Eric Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Amen! Our rights are derived from natural law (or God if you so choose to believe), and we have an obligation and duty to protect life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We must defend the most vulnerable. The eugenicists are waging a war against the weak.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Outside the moral arguement as to whether it is right or wrong…I for one believe it to be very wrong… What cannot be argued here by anyone on either side is that the situation is absent of justice. In a consenting situation of both man and woman…it is unjust for the woman to have an abortion in light of her own selfish decision to have sex. It is in light of this that it is WRONG to not be accountable for ones actions. It is very unfortunate that our society is a welfare state and the mindset of most Americans is that they are owed something. Even worse is the fact that this behavior is encouraged and supported through our government. It should NOT be within the governments authority to dictate who takes the brunt of the consequence for someone else’s selfish actions (i.e. the drunk who choses not to work, or the lazy homey down the street that never was a slave but claims to be one and feels that appropriations at the taxpayers expense should be made.) That is what we are lacking in this universe is JUSTICE…people who do what is JUST and upstanding for the community as a whole despite trends in society and its “conditoned to be” mindset. If a person is unaccountable for their own actions and inevitably the consequence…the responsibility will fall in someone elses lap. The government cant give to someone without first taking it from someone else…in this case a defenseless baby. For you fellow Christians…this is the extent of Jesus’s teachings…do for your brother even over yourself, do not be burdensome to your fellow man… Our society is pathetic…its all about me,me,me… Materialism… heh, you work to consume. We as a society are the epitome of selfishness… We eat from the hands of the Luciferian elites and ask for more… Jesus said “Love your Lord God with all your heart, mind, body and soul and 2nd love your neighbor as yourself”… we love our THINGS…our material items this much…we are so afraid to lose our things…when will we step up and step out and declare that which is right??…we are guilty of idolatry in the highest degree… and you wonder why our country is falling apart… JUSTICE!! “It twas a foolish man that built his house upon the sand” and thats my 2 cents…
May 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Protesting personal choice! Hooray! Not really…
Tacks Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Protesting the murder of the defenseless! You should not have the choice to kill an innocent baby.
David Rockefeller Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I’m pro-choice. The government should have the choice to kill its people. For instance, we all know that 9/11 was an inside job, but must we automatically assume that it was a bad thing? After all, the government owns its people and they should have a choice to exterminate their property. We should protest personal choice. Hitler had every right to kill millions of people because we do not have the right to deprive him of choice. …….i hope you catch my sarcasm!
May 9th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Let’s apply the pro-abortion argument that women have a right to do anything they want with their body to government. The government presumes to own every single one of its citizens. Using the abortionists argument, the Government has every right to kill its own citizens. After all, we’re living within the government’s jurisdiction, and they, therefore, have the right to kill us.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
I THINK THE MOTHER SHOULD GO INTO THE TRASCAN WITH THE BABY !!!!!!!!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
PRO-CHOICER: Your “choice” is to murder a life. To abort it. To stop it. That IS murder. Your choices and “rights” should end when you’re taking the life of another. An innocent life that has no say in your ending it.
Just because the corrupt judges decided to say it was not legal to kill a life that gets in your way (gee, so sorry that it inconviences you…) doesn’t mean it’s RIGHT!!! There have been many countries in the past (and countries currently) that pass laws that are sick and ungodly. Take a look at “the laws” passed during Hitler’s reign. (Do you like euthanisia?)
Sorry, you’re arguments are sorry, sad and deluded at best. Evil at worse.
May 9th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Just as a women has the right to choose whether her unborn child will to live or die, governments have a right to choose whether its subjects will live or die. Why are you guys against government choice? If the government wants to cull the population that is its choice. We don’t have a right to tell the government what to do with its own subjects. Don’t be a control freak.
Thomas Jefferson Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
But we believe that all human beings have inalienable rights derived from our creator or natural law. Even the young, unborn child has a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Free humanity declares war on all tyrants who wish to kill the our most innocent, defenseless fellow humans.
Eugenicist Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Ah, but that’s your problem, Jefferson, you believe in this silly natural law concept. LOL. You actually believe that human beings have inalienable rights. But Eugenicists and abortionists know that Government bestows rights unto its subject. There is no such thing as inalienable rights, and human being do not have value..we’re just a cancer of the earth. Abortionists believe that human life is pathetic and worh nothing
May 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Way to go Alan! Fight bill H.R. 1913 asap. Pull up worldnetdaily.com… Click on “Hate crimes fate now up to people”…read and if you agree, in the second paragraph, click on “campaign to allow citizens…” This will take you to “Stop The Pedophile Protection Act” and click on add to cart. It costs $10.95 to have a letter written and delivered to each senator and congress representative. Needs to be done before Wednesday. It will pass if we stand by and do nothing. Or you can call 800-496-3266
May 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
The abortion debate should be over when people truly acknowledge what they see in an unltrasound. I am astounded that people are still debating whether an unborn child is a life. I looked at my daughter’s ultrasound when she was only 16 weeks in the womb. I saw her sucking her thumb, kicking her little legs, stretching, etc. In short, she was a little, innocent, defenseless child. This debate has nothing to do with religion – it has to do with decency and compassion. Alan Keyes is a real man for taking a stand to defend the most innocent among us. We all need to join him in South Bend and protest the murderous agenda of the NWO.
May 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
What an incredibly powerful statement I will do it all day and every day from now until the Master comes if need be, though it mean I shall be housed every day in the prison house of lies and injustice that their minions now mean to construct for those who will never be still and silent in the face of their mockery of God and justice, their celebration of evil.
May 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
First Ammendment DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I like Alan Keyes and would like to have him freed.
What he is doing is the truth.
I personally don’t support a womans right to choose, they don’t always make the best decision. I think abortion is murder.
Hmpgh
May 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
SO WHAT WAS THE CHARGE?
May 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I hope this makes Alan go officially nuts and become one of us. We could use his intelligence, sanity, and overall moral decency. I always got a good vibe from alan keyes, even when he was a “republican.” I always kind of knew he was different and his words and actions prove it. He is a cut above the rest. He is letting these psycho-baby killers know the deal. fucking maggots. The way these killers feel about babies is how i feel about them. They are not even worthy to exist.
May 9th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
May God bless Alan Keyes with His Love and Light aways…he stood up to the murderous reptile-backed pro-abortion industry and we need to back this man up with prayers of protection and blessings….right ON brother Keyes!
May 9th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
This ol’ girl got it right: “They’re terrible people, liberals. They believe… you can deliver a baby entirely except for the head, puncture the skull, suck the brains out and pronounce that a constitutional right has just been exercised. …. You don’t want such people to like you!” –Ann Coulter
May 9th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Here is a man of integrity and character. God Bless this man and may he some how inspire more of us to do the same. I respect what he did and I hope that one day I will have the courage to do what he has done.
We need more of these men to stand and fight against tyranny.
Alex Keyes, you have my respect sir!
May 9th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
You should all listen to yourselves sometimes. Some of the things you say are pretty dumb, and totally illogical.
A woman’s body is hers. A fertilized egg is hers. Hers to do with what she will. Roe v. Wade gives a woman the right to do what she must to survive.
I wish for a moment all you anti abortion nuts would walk in a woman’s shoes for 9 months, then take the stance that abortion is murder.
The only thing that reversing Roe V. Wade will ever do is to put abortions back on the streets. In back rooms, with dirty knives. Now THATS murder!
That’s the most illogical thing I’ve ever heard.
Patriarch Verlch Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
ANd how far would she get without the man’s sperm? BAby and all? I’m sure babies just spontaneously appear in her womb void of men right? No said woman choose to engage in an act that produces a baby.
It is not some cancer growing in her belly. It is a child, with a right to life once conceived. If women want to do what is right, they will seek out the father of hte baby, and have a shot gun wedding. In the old days most of them survived. Or women should be married to avoid fathless bastards, as 85% of criminals, gang bangers, hookers, and strippers all come from single mother households.
If the earth was a living being, could it abort us because it gives us water, air, and food?
God created it, and He freely lets us live on the earth. A woman conceived the child, she should let it live. Thou shall not murder.
Also the Bible says we should marry to avoid fornication.
Hack the Planet Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
And exactly how old are u? 95? Old schools soooo out the window. This is 2009. Get with the program.
Hack the Planet Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Oh yeah, and by the way, they’re called condoms. Why are women the only responsible party?
Sarah Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
An ovum contains 23 chromosome just like the spermatozoa. When combined this makes 46, which is the amount of a human. Therefore, It is half mothers and half father DNA…
And i’m not sure how being pregnant would change your mind on abortion.. most child bearing women are pro life.
And also, If “abortions in the streets” are murder then how is abortions in the clinic not?
I think people need to study the human reproductive system before they start supporting termination of life.
May 9th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
I like this guy! Keyes, I hope you are legit and full of grass roots! I pray you are benevolent, because 50% of our called leaders are not.
US constitution? WHat is that? Here in the USSA! The new USSA, all paths lead to the Ghettocracy.
May 9th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
“and he Court concluded that the ‘gravity of the ‘evil” justified an invasion of free speech under the circumstances, despite the fact that the speech in question did not create a clear and present danger. The Court later formulated a more stringent test for suppression of political speech and the Smith Act has fallen into disuse. ”
It is not a matter of pro-life and pro-choice… it is a matter of pro-choice or not….
May 9th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Abortion is wrong…It is murder. If a couple don’t want the responsibility of a baby…refrain from SEX. If you got the “can’t help it” syndrome (LUST)….and a child is conceived…what is so wrong with bringing the baby into the world and give the child a chance by adoption to a home of a couple that would love to give the child life. If there is no responsibility in actions..I hate to see future…it be a world with no one..babes be aborted. The world come to a dead stop except for animals. And if you guys/gals haven’t thought of this….with all the 50 million babies aborted sience 1970 to now (we have a Social Security System that want go broke and we have ” a mean lean fighting machine …’Military”.
surReal Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
How many hamburgers did you eat today??
surReal Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Oh, just hand the child over to the government..it will be okay…how about giving the child a decent place to come into first…….appropriate education is the answer… and i believe there is a lack of it… i wouldnt suggest you jump to conclusions until you UNDERSTAND ALL LEVELS OF CIRCUMSTANCES!!
Try looking the PIG in the eye next time while you eat it’s bloody meat.
May 9th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Roe V. Wade says abortion is the legal right of women. Would you rather they be butchered by street abortionists, or by a safe legal option? Either way, abortions have been happening for decades, centuries, forever. It’s just a safe legal operation now. Saves womens lives.
Men are so dumb. I had sex with you, you’re pregnant, I don’t want anything to do with the kid, but you have to have it anyway. Me Tarzan, you Jane. Get over yourselves!
Sarah Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
saves womens life???? Have you been frequently visiting plannedparenthood.com?????
May 9th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oepXF2B5NK4
surReal Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
GENESIS ROCKS!!!
May 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
THIS IS THE WORST WAR MAN WILL EVER KNOW…
May 9th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
IS FUNNY , YET I STILL HAVE TO FIND A BLACK FACE ON THIS WEBSITE
Hack the Planet Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Where’s the webcam?
May 9th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
What does it matter if it is a boy or a girl?
May 9th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
You people are on this website because you want freedom, but want to ban abortion? The alternative to abortion is to bring back the coat hangers and back alley abortions. Yes, thats a lot less harmful, psh…
Sarah Reply:
May 9th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
freedom to kill??? You seem to think abortion is a necessity.
Hack the Planet Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 4:40 am
It’s been happening since the beginning of time anyway. Roe V. Wade legalized abortion, made it safe for women who were going to back alley abortionists with a dirty knife. Do you belive killing women is a necessity?
Sarah Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 8:09 am
What? No, I do not think killing women is a necessity and I do not see how by not having an abortion is going to kill women. Pregnancy is a natural physiological function,quite healthy. Murderers who kill fully developed humans have been going on since the beginning of time too. By your logic, I suppose we could set up clinics to make it safer to kill people of all ages.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Dear police, feds, and other tyrannical scumbags who don’t like Alan Keyes,
SCREW YOU AND YOUR DAMN NEW WORLD ORDER! HOW DARE YOU ARREST ALAN KEYES! HOW DARE YOU ARREST SOMEONE WHO STANDS UP TO PROTECT HUMAN LIFE, THE VERY BASE OF HUMAN RIGHTS! WE DON’T NEED MURDERS LIKE YOU RUNNING FREE ON OUR STREETS ANY LONGER! TIME TO ARREST PRO ABORTONISTS FOR MURDER ONE! PRO ABORTS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS OR MORAL PEOPLE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION! MAY ALL YOU DAMN LIBERALS BURN IN HELL!
May 10th, 2009 at 12:27 am
I have to say that I was a bit racist up until recently. I assumed all black people were NWO brainwashed lemmings more so then white people. That said, because of Alex Jones I found out about Cynthia McKinney (the Israelis actually tried to kill this women).
Now with this guy Alan Keyes who is risking a prison sentence because he had the courage to stand up for his beliefs and all the black guys in The Obama Deception. I admit it, I was wrong. There seems to be a lot of black people who are totally aware of the NWO and its anti-baby and anti-humanity death cult and are not afraid to stand up to it even if it means risking there own lives. True Patriots.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:33 am
Tough Shit Alan,
Another brotha with a criminal record…….fine…. protest…. bring photos of fetuses….
cry about the Demos stem-cell program…..
Let the parents decide if a life is worth protecting. Are you fuckheads, Alen Keys or
Archbishop O’Conner going to raise the little bastard. I didn’t think so……
or I suppose you prefer coathangers in the alleys. Give up the medical abortion bullshit…..
Oh, I forgot……. Viva Abusto…. get a new fucking cause…..
May 10th, 2009 at 2:39 am
coat hanger, always the coat hangers. What about suicide, alcoholism, breast cancer or sterilization all real consequences of choosing death. Live in the real world not the Hollywood propaganda fantasy-land you are in.
May 10th, 2009 at 4:03 am
I am an elderly white Texan. I have several black friends with whom I occasionally meet at the local book store. We always seem to get into long intellectual discussions wherein we solve the problems of the world (really). It does not, therefore, amaze me to find truly great men like Alan Keyes, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams leading the fight for moral values and governmental sanity in America. Ambassador Keyes would have become the greatest president in American history had the voting public been smart enough to elect him recently. His being arrested in the cause of abortion protest will eventually redound to his immense credit both in time and in eternity.
Because abortion mills have murdered nearly fifty million entirely innocent American children in their mother’s wombs, this cause is absolutely central to how God evaluates the moral standing of our nation and why he will continue to send terrible judgments upon us until this immense wrong is brought to a screeching halt.
If you are willing to go to jail for a supremely important cause, protesting abortion is far and away the most important one you could choose because it determines whether God protects us or not, and without his protection we are doomed. Ambassador Keyes has chosen wisely and deserves our greatest admiration as a manly man of genuine convictions and strong, genius level intellect.
Strange as it my seem, this makes him the very opposite of our current POTUS in every way. He is a native born citizen–Obama is not. He is a constitutional patriot–Obama is a Marxist according to his own writings. He is a Christian–Obama is not in the least Christian in spite of all his duplicitous blather to the contrary. He is a man of great moral integrity–Obama has no fixed moral standards whatsoever. He opposes the wanton murder of innocents by putting his personal freedom on the line–Obama appeases the murder lobby at his every opportunity.
By his daring act of legitimate protest at Notre Dame, Ambassador Keyes gets my vote for greatest man of superb integrity for the years 1876-2009.
Hack the Planet Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 4:48 am
You’re fighting the wrong fight. OUR cause is survival. What’s yours?
This abortion fight is over. Roe V. Wade saw to that. It will never be overturned. Smoke and Mirrors, People!
May 10th, 2009 at 5:34 am
Jason Bermas – Chris Pinto Pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
Jason Bermas continues to sit in while Alex is away.Randall Terry reports Alan Keyes has been arrested at Notre Dame University for protesting Abortion.
StopObamaNotreDame
http://www.stopobamanotredame.com/
Jason welcomes Chris Pinto, award-winning filmmaker and director of Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings, to the show.
5-8-09
May 10th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Sometimes I wonder if our dearly aborted wasn’t really done a favor of not having to come into this evil world?
May 10th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Everyone, go to 911truth.org. There is a great text there today about Mothers Day (Mothers Day Proclamation 1870 by Julia Ward Howe). I sent the link of the page to all the mothers in my address book. Seemed like a good way to introduce the 9/11 truth movement to lot’s of people.
Just an idea. Peace
May 10th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Pro Choice People + Barack Obama = MURDERING BASTARDS!
crimsonking21 Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 11:20 am
pro choice doesnt mean your a murder it has nothing to do with taking part in abortion. pro-choice is a grass roots idea the respects the idea of freedom of religion and the right for man and women adults with full citizenship rights to mind their own business. my mom for example. grew catholic and hate abortion would never participate in it and would fully upset and most like no associate herself with anyone who is or has taken part in it. but she is pro- choice. because she loves america and because she loves the idea that everyone has the right to act on their own belief system. you mind your business i mind mine.
so dont call me a murder for being pro choice.
by that logic, that would make any one of catholic or christian dissent a murder by associate to the crusades
May 10th, 2009 at 9:43 am
It amazes me that Women have this misconception of Choice when it comes to bearing children.
They assume that if they have a desire to shun their responsibility, then it is their decision alone, and the sperm donor has no vested interest in the pregnancy. In other words, F^ck what the Father wants. Yet when the tables are turned, and the Father says He’s not ready for kids, it is construed as a “slap in the face” to the pregnant female should the Father request the abortion.
The Father has no say in any part of this equation, and is usually FORCED to pay child support for a child he might not be ready for.
This all seems so hypocritical, but then again, isn’t that the MO for most liberals and Feme-Nazi groups ?
May 10th, 2009 at 9:51 am
The Holy Catholic Church is right on this one; and those who oppose The Christ should be prayed for and pitied. Be professional , more people will see the true intentions of pro-lifers, the choice should be to unite despite disagreement to find compromise; even if it does mean more blowjobs!
May 10th, 2009 at 11:10 am
though i am all about pro choice because i dont not have any religious beliefs to cloud my brain function, this is just another sitution that makes me nervous of growing facism. pro-life people such has keyes have every right to protest. i protest for my beliefs so he does to and when anyones rights are taking aways, weather or beliefs are the same or not, it is a sad day in america.
long live the seperation of church and state and long live the FREEDOM OF SPEECH and the RIGHT TO PROTEST!
May 10th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Okay, this will be unpopular as a leech on your leg. Maybe, just maybe some of the people have forgotten the things that happened when abortion was illegal in this country. No, I’m not going to say abortion is right, nor wrong. My mother and grandmother were alive at a time when abortion was only a back alley thing. Practiced by the dregs of the medical profession for profit in secret. Often the results were that the women were infected, made infertile or died from the procedure. That is part of what fuels the debate for me. On one level, yes, it’s wrong to kill the unborn. But, isn’t it just as wrong to cause thousands of MORE deaths by denying the proper, legal and safer procedure to be available as a choice? Do you believe that women won’t go to backstreet abortionists illegally if they think it’s the only way out? Like one man killing another, it’s always a complex judgment that requires an intimate knowledge of the actual situation. So, like self-defense issues, I’d stand with the people that are reasonable and say do not judge someone who is in that awful position until you get the facts of each case. Maybe there is a middle ground here and I like to think I stand on it for this issue. Leave abortion legal, and put into place a support system, the responsibility of true charity of the churches and people, that will contact gently those faced with these terrible circumstances to help them know the options better. But, they should approach the individual case without a predetermined goal to not allow an abortion. Gentle reason often can show a path to another, judgmental threats of damnation drive them away. That said, maybe it is wrong from a stand point for a Catholic college to honor a man so intent on promoting something they oppose. It is great that Mr. Keyes will protest when his beliefs are ignored. And I will protect his right to say it. Now, as far as supporting abortions with tax dollars, no. As far as promoting abortions in other countries with tax dollars, no, it’s not our country’s business in the first place. Now I’ve had my say.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
I see many people arguing for and against abortion, that’s not what this article is about. What should be argued is whether or not Mr. Keyes. was denied any rights because he demonstrated his views publicly.
ron no inside job paul Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Set up my friend. Set up and photo op to keep a little fuel on the fake controlled Patriot/ freedom movement.
I should know. I’m a key player in it.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Too bad there’s not edit function, but I’d also like to add what if the reason he was arrested was because Notre Dame is a private campus “i could be wrong”, in which case the campus perpetrated the arrest. Completely justifiable. There’s more to this story.
May 10th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Well, for you pro choicers…..you would not even be able to debate this had your mother opted out of pregnancy. That should sit rather sour as a topic of debate.
May 10th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
All you people bickering over abortion rights are obviously still asleep…
I’d love to debate world religions and their control of the masses..
but it’s all just a waste of time and energy.
“Killing in the name of… And now you do what they told ya!”
Transcend your petty beliefs and goals or we’re all doomed…
There are BANKSTERS, SHEEP & FREEDOM FIGHTERS
No other classifications of people matter, PLEASE WAKE UP!
My country is the WORLD, my religion is FREEDOM!
And although I walk through the valley of darkness, I fear no evil..
{But I also praise no god and worship nothing except FREEDOM!}
STAND UP… WAKE UP… GET OUT THERE AND DO SOMETHING!
The entire future of humanity weighs in the balance and we are
arguing with our own Brothers-In-Arms who would stand with us?
I am T.minus 2wks till I hit the streets with banners and free CD’s
{DON”T BE A HACK, FIGHT BACK!}
May 10th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Abortion is murder, period!
Within a few weeks, the baby’s heart is beating!
It has a soul from conception. And killing it is as bad as killing any human being.
http://www.myspace.com/134783740
May 10th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
What is the problem? I have posted in many different ways but my post has always been deleted and did not appear.
mr. poopy butt Reply:
May 10th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
It’s them. The found you. Oh my god……..oh my god they found us.
May 10th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I’m a shill who denies 9/11 truth right in the face of obvious evidence and I love it.
I’m a shill and I love it.
Me and Alex have an agreement that he is not to challenge me on my lies and denial of 9/11 truth and I love it.
I love it, I love it.
Devil horns and mason churches to all and to all a good devil horns and denial of 9/11 truth haha.
May 10th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
ry is completely right. the topic at hand is right to protest rather then morality of abortion.
May 10th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Let me see. Keys gets arrested for protesting and Jones is just left alone to make films that expose the real truth about every thing? Yea ok.
May 10th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
It’s a publicity stunt.
May 10th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Keyes looks like he’s holding back a grin like “yea this is a cool trick, I’m getting one over on the ‘truth movement’.”" make it look good coppers, fake pretend like you’re pushing me around.”
And the other protesters look like they’re having a nice Sunday afternoon stroll through the park.
The nwo is real threatened by a bunch of sissies with bluetooth phones and baby strollers.
May 11th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Did anyone notice that they had a black officer arrest him, so no one could say that they were Racially motivated?
I wonder if he was really booked, Or just “hooked up” for the cameras? Right now there are far too many people “performing” for the cameras to make themselves look good for the masses! Granted I may be jaded and very skeptical when I see this type of thing, But one does need to be now a days!
May 11th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Think People Think;
Do you Pro-lifers really want the Government to Rule based on Religious Doctrine?
If you say yes then you put our Great Country on a slippery slope.
Our Country and our very existence is based on Personal Freedom and Responsibility, the Government should not have the right to impose the beliefs of Christianity on anyone.
A woman’s body is her own Period.
If you don’t agree and believe the Bible should be used to Govern then make sure you submit to Romans 13; Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.
Just remember there is an influx of other religions entering our Country and someday Christians might be the minority.
I a not trying to offend anyone, I’m just stating the facts as I see them.
If you want to start a non profit to help troubled women, I think that would be great ,but to hold a gun to a woman and say you will carry that baby or else is just wrong. Law enforcement don’t ask, they enforce and use weapons to do it.
We are losing the Bill of Rights and Alan Keyes thinks this is the best way to help humanity.
Please wake up People, how can you save a baby when you can’t even save yourself.
Peace
May 11th, 2009 at 2:36 am
Reading through these comments saddens me. Why did this get to be a debate about abortion? I’m not saying here that I’m Pro-life or Pro-Choice. What were the Charges Against Alan Keys? Since when is protesting illegal? Were any of the other protesters arrested? We are supposed to have a right to protest in this country. I would stand up for your right to protest regardless of what you’re protesting for. No one should be arrested for voicing an opinion. This story is not about the abortion debate. It’s about a man being arrested for speaking up about something he believes. So go ahead bicker about abortion. bicker about all the little opinions you have. While you’re busy doing that, the government is busy taking your liberty away. What are you going to do when they come for you…just for having an opinion?
Common Sense Pete Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 4:06 am
Frank I agree People should have the right to protest but not on Private Property.
I just watched the video again
Alan and the rest of his group were asked at least 4 times to leave the property of Notre Dame
or be arrested and they chose the latter, and I must say Law Enforcement were more than nice to Alan and his group.
This looked more like a publicity stunt, I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way to their cause, but it did look to be self serving on the part of Alan Keyes. I think Alan Keyes was trying to get media attention for Alan Keyes.
That’s just my observation
Peace
Common Sense Pete Reply:
May 11th, 2009 at 4:09 am
Frank I agree People should have the right to protest but not on Private Property.
I just watched the video again
Alan and the rest of his group were asked at least 4 times to leave the property of Notre Dame
or be arrested and they chose the latter, and I must say Law Enforcement were more than nice to Alan and his group.
This looked more like a publicity stunt, I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way to their cause, but it did look to be self serving on the part of Alan Keyes. I think Alan Keyes was trying to get media attention for Alan Keyes.
That’s just my observation
Peace
May 11th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Keyes is an American hero.
May 11th, 2009 at 8:10 am
He must be a right wing extremist
take away his guns
he’s probably a neo nazi skinhead in disguise
May 11th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Why is it that everyone who stands for pro-choice are living life to the fullest, what if their mother decided to abort them for whatever reason.
May 11th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Okay A: abortion is not murder, murder is a legal term B: people kill people (even babies) all the time C: humanity isn’t that precious D: If you find something distasteful don’t do it, E: abortion protesters are so concerned about the unborn yet they have zero concern about the living, read a few of the above posts, people are foaming at the mouth insulting people. F: sure an abortion photo looks disgusting and probably upsets people to see, thats why anti abortionist use them, its no worse manipulation than the nwo because it’s intentional, and i’m pretty sure if i showed you photos of a brain operation you would find it equally distressing. G: I amn’t saying i agree with abortion i just agree with the choice.
May 12th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Pro-Choice!!! You bet. Psychological Control!!! You get. Freedom, Freedom, Freedom!!! If I now -pro choice- to give free showers to JEWS or to fit a rope tie on COLORED AFRICAN BLACK Americans will you object?
May 13th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Why are Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson not protesting the arrest of an African American man exercising his right to protest? Oh, I remember now, They were too busy padding their personal bank accounts with extortion money.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Here’s one for ya! How about, if you knock someone up and deny responsibility, if she chooses an abortion, the woman would have to have the name of the father in order to continue. The father would then be DNA tested to make no mistake he is the father, he would then be detained and not released until his sterilization has been completed. The mother would also require a hysterectomy at the time of the abortion and finally, a convenient payment plan would be contractually drawn up to pay for the service. At this point, you would be free to go! We don’t want the taxpayers picking up this tab, as this would be contributing to a decision that was made individually. Got to admit, that’s one solution.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Common Sense Pete Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Think People Think;
Do you Pro-lifers really want the Government to Rule based on Religious Doctrine?
If you say yes then you put our Great Country on a slippery slope.
Our Country and our very existence is based on Personal Freedom and Responsibility, the Government should not have the right to impose the beliefs of Christianity on anyone.
A woman’s body is her own Period.
If you don’t agree and believe the Bible should be used to Govern then make sure you submit to Romans 13; Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.
Just remember there is an influx of other religions entering our Country and someday Christians might be the minority.
I a not trying to offend anyone, I’m just stating the facts as I see them.
If you want to start a non profit to help troubled women, I think that would be great ,but to hold a gun to a woman and say you will carry that baby or else is just wrong. Law enforcement don’t ask, they enforce and use weapons to do it.
We are losing the Bill of Rights and Alan Keyes thinks this is the best way to help humanity.
Please wake up People, how can you save a baby when you can’t even save yourself.
Peace
you are correct, sir.
-someday…i hope this is common knowledge.
May 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
The written words of God once supported the protesters against abortion at Notre Dame. But the written words of constitutional law comes from the same God. He now writes that abortion is legal. God is allowed to change his mind every five thousand years.