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Alarm Bells Ring As Hillary Offered Leading Role In Healthcare Overhaul
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Plan for mandatory state managed health system may be initiated
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
November 19, 2008
As if Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State wasn’t an unpopular enough appointment, consider that her likely alternative is to accept a role as a senior member of the Senate team aiming to overhaul the nation’s healthcare system, a fact that should set alarm bells ringing given her track record in this area.
Clinton was offered the role by Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), who has announced plans to craft sweeping healthcare legislation next year.
Clinton has long pushed to expand the Federal government’s role in healthcare, indeed she made the issue a centerpiece of her presidential campaign.
A little over a year ago Hillary unveiled a $110 billion health care reform plan that would have required that all Americans have health insurance by law.
Clinton announced that under her presidency every citizen in the U.S. would have to enroll in a state-managed socialized health care system where regular check ups, including mental screenings, would be mandatory.
Hillary later remarked that anyone wishing to opt out of such a system would have their wages "garnished".
When pressed on ABC’s This Week, earlier in the year, Hillary said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people’s wages, automatic enrollment."
Now she may have the opportunity to push the very same policy into practice.
The vision of an America where every citizen is forced by law to participate in health screenings overseen by the government should set off stark warning bells.
The level of micromanagement and the expansion of government into everyday life that this would entail represents the antithesis of the founding principles of a constitutional Republic and a free market.
It would create a government enforced legal requirement that everyone in America buy a product from a private insurance company.
There is also concern that such a mandate would be too financially burdensome for lower-income individuals and families.
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If Hillary were to pursue such a plan it would offer expanded versions of two existing government programs: Medicare, and the health insurance plan currently offered to federal employees. Consumers have a choice between either government-run program.
Clinton previously proposed covering the cost of such a plan by ending tax cuts to people who make more than $200,000 per year.
Clinton has said that such a reform in the healthcare system would ensure lower premiums and higher quality, and lessen the power of drug and insurance companies over healthcare choices. This is difficult to believe however given that Hillary has recently enjoyed a fruitful relationship with powerful health care groups, drug companies, insurance companies and their lobbyists.
Furthermore, what incentive will there be for big pharma to control prices of legally required consumer purchases?
During her tenure as First Lady, Clinton was also at the forefront of a similar and extremely unpopular socialized medicine plan that became known by critics as "Hillarycare".
One editorial in the Washington Post by University of Virginia Professor Martha Derthick stated:
"In many years of studying American social policy, I have never read an official document that seemed so suffused with coercion and political naivete … with its drastic prescriptions for controlling the conduct of state governments, employers, drug manufacturers, doctors, hospitals and you and me."
U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan added "anyone who thinks [the Clinton health care plan] can work in the real world as presently written isn’t living in it."
The plan ultimately collapsed under the weight of opposition and the fact that the Republicans won the 1994 mid terms.
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November 19th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Oh the phucking horror of it all.
Geez isn’t there more pressing issues out there then to nit pick possible Obama cabinet members? Were people this concerned when Bush chose his cabinet full of neocons and unqualified cronies?
November 19th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Yo, Fester,
are you stupid or something. The people who run things are the one’s who are destroying us. Those members are the #1 thing to worry about. All other pressing issues come from that. dumb ass.
November 19th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Yo are you stupid…yes you are. Lots of sensationlism here. By the way can you answer if you were this concerned over Bush hiring neocons and disqualified cronies into his cabinet? Probably not huh? Because all of the idiots who voted for Bush voted for him because he was someone they could drink a beer with. Brilliant!
November 19th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
its called keeping track of the crooks and robbers. its our duty as patriots of the republic
November 19th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Who died and left THESE control freaks in charge anyway? Oh, yeah. Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Adams, Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine, the list goes on and on…. These poor founder who fought and died to give us a free country and Constitution are all rolling in their graves…. Amerika weeps.
November 19th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
LOL,
This is the funniest thing I have read today.
That Old bag could’nt do it once, why should she try again???
Sounds like more socialism to me Joe…..
November 19th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I think that Hilliary is the ideal leader to overhaul the healthcare system. $110 billion? That’s a drop in the bucket compared to the bailout.
November 19th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Uncle Fester, yes we all worried back then at Bush’s appointments too. You seem to think that this a Democrat/Republican thing but rather it’s a government against the people thing and the Dems and Reps are both in on it collectively. It doesn’t matter who is the sitting president because freedom still gets attacked and further dismantled. Isn’t it obvious?
November 19th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
“Freedom is just another word for nuthin left to loose …” Janice Joplin
November 19th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Freedom without rice is better than capture with it!
The “South Indian Monkey Trap” was developed by villagers to catch the ever-present and numerous small monkeys in that part of the world. It involves a hollowed-out coconut chained to a stake. The coconut has some rice inside which can be seen through a small hole. The hole is just big enough so that the monkey can put his hand in, but too small for his fist to come out after he has grabbed the rice.
Tempted by the rice, the monkey reaches in and is suddenly trapped. He is not able to see that it is his own fist that traps him, his own desire for the rice. He rigidly holds on to the rice, because he values it. He cannot let go and by doing so retain his freedom. So the trap works and the villagers capture him.
November 19th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
State medicine is communism.
November 19th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Excellent analogy, guy from Buffalo.
November 19th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
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November 19th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
If you are a Private Sector Worker then you are NOT an “Employee” and you ARE NOT in receipt of “Wages”
as defined at 26 USC Section 3401(a) !!!!!
TITLE 26 > Subtitle C > CHAPTER 24 > § 3401 (c) Employee
For purposes of this chapter, the term “employee” includes an officer, employee, or elected official of the United States, a State, or any political subdivision thereof, or the District of Columbia, or any agency or instrumentality of any one or more of the foregoing. The term “employee” also includes an officer of a corporation.
The term “includes” is a legal word of art and is to be read as “means”, ie; “…..the term “employee” MEANS an officer, employee,…..”
November 19th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Uncle Fester Lurks #3 – You present your argument as if there is something to be gained by anyone picking a “worse cabinet”(or anything else for that matter and a knowledgable person should be willing to accept whatever a person in charge does. The bottom line.. ANYONE in a political position has the power to do many things.. none of which the consequences directly affect them and hold them accountable. In all instances the PEOPLE suffer… I do not support such stupidity, no matter who accomplishes(?) such acts.
The bottom line is ALL GVT programs have been used to gradually make people dependent on GVT.. and now they are down to the few that still resist. Can you beleive this? Some people actually think GVt creates money and everything from the GVT through a program is “free”.
The people out there working, well, they just do it because they like going through the motions just so they can pay taxes. Go figure.. Stupid working people. They actually are so stupid they work instead of getting a “free GVT ‘ handout. I wish my comments were totally sarcastic.. But ask someone sometime about “free GVT money”. Before you do.. make sure you understand that there is NO SUCH THING AS A FREE RIDE.
The private sector has to produuce results.. GVT doesn’t.
The monkey story was a good comparison.. but that assumes the trappers worked to catch the moneky.
In the US… the GVT doesn’t have to do very much.. and by comparison.. the GVT would make the moneky set the trap AND catch himself in the US.
Here is a similar allegory: http://www.nhccs.org/okepigs.html
Probably more applicable.
November 19th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
God I can’t believe I have to look at her face in the news everyday again. I’m still trying to recover from seeing her in the news everyday in the 90’s.
November 19th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Commune-ism, Social-ism…the military,the congress, federal employees all have Socialized medicine!!! I can’t imagine an E-2 having to PAY for his medical expenses after being shot, maimed, or just injured during PT!!! And BTW folks…the VA is social-ized as well but, that all depends upon your current wages!!! Make to much $ and you will be rejected!!! “It gets hard to “Thermally Expand anymore!!!”
November 19th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
My god, don’t the people know last time the healthcare system was appointed to Hillary that she tried to governize through corporate greed. The country said no and she was put on the back burner, ’til now. AAAHHHHHHH!!!!! God Help the senior citizens, the single parents, the sick and weak. My god help us all.
November 19th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Then there are many of us who don’t want GVT/BigPharma products and services for a number of reasons. You say they won’t have a choice if you have your way, Hillary? We’ll see about that..
November 19th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
I agree with the general sentiment of the reviewers. Mandatory Health care, mandatory military service, mandatory auto insurance, mandatory screening of children (more drugs), home schooling not allowed…These are lists of current and proposed federal mandates. The list goes on and on. Oh, They’ll word it and market it so crafty the sheep will just follow along and further enslave themselves and their children. I’m all for good health, and that’s why I’m against Hilary’s proposition to mandate health care. This is nothing more than the big pharmaceutical companies pulling their strings and working their puppets. I’m so sick and tired of these big fat bureaucrats sitting on their butts and controlling the world. We need to stand up and flat our reject this crap. We have proof this government mandate crap doesn’t work. I could go on and on with examples, but I’ll spare you the tirade.
November 19th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Sorry ditto, you seem to have everything all figured out thanks to good old Alex Jones and his minions of sensationalism. Until proven wrong, President Obama will be 10x’s a better President than Bush.
November 19th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Although I will say one thing about “Universal health care” It seems to me that if in fact we move to a cashless society (mark of the beast?) Universal health care will be one more carrot they will dangle in front of us. If you want to qualify for Universal health care benefits you must be chipped…
November 19th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Ok here is another point of view on this…
What I find odd is this; in the US the poor get social medicine (medicaid), the middle class don’t. They get thrown on the trash heap if they can’t pay, or get left with debt that is beyond control. Look at the first responders. The fact is the US has one of if not the most expensive health care system in the world and only a few people actually benefit from the fact they pay a lot for their medical care.
The police and fire fighters are socialized? Would anyone like to return to the days where you only call the fire fighters out if you can afford to put you house out? Oops there goes the neighbors place.
So if we have a socialized fire brigade for this reason, why not a socialized health care system like Norway or France so when somebody is caught in a bomb blast/911 they aren’t left to die of some disease that could be cured cheaply and would be cured cheaply in another nation.
The way forward in my opinion is to offer a socialized medicine program but allow people the option to opt out and pay for private healthcare if they want. Watch big pharma crap its pants when it realises that they can’t carry on ripping off the public.
However for the above to work, you’d need to get rid of just about everyone in Washington that has a vested interest in the current system…. including Hillary.
November 19th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
We have universal health care in Canada and it is good; sure, there are some problems like wait times (of course, that can be extremely bad for some), but basically everyone is covered; not like the US, where a major portion of the population has no medical insurance coverage and is SOL if they have health problems.
Canada’s system is nothing like what Clinton has proposed though; there are no mandatory regular check-ups nor mental screening. It’s not a fascist medical system in Canada, it’s socialism, but socialism isn’t evil for some things, especially when you come down with cancer and couldn’t have afforded to buy insurance yourself.
November 19th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Wouldn’t be any scarier than George W. Shrubenfuhrer or DICK Cheney in office now would it?
BUSH TO THE HAGUE
November 19th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Wouldn’t be any scarier than George W. Shrubenfuhrer or Richardhead Cheney in office now would it?
BUSH TO THE HAGUE
November 19th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
The last thing to happen before armageddon is the establishment of a one world government. Think about it.
November 19th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
COAST TO COAST AM with george nori is having a special show about the ecconomic situation tonight @ 12 am CENTRAL. Informed minds —will be there! This ecconomic thing is worse than you think.
November 19th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
As we all know. Uncle Fester from the Adams family was not smart at all. The Dbag Uncle Fester on this blog makes the original look like a genious. He obviously took the blue pill. You just go back to your dream world. Hey I have an idea, why dont you take a copper hanger and stick it into your electrical outlet. make sure you put one in each hole. Maybe that will jolt you to reality you braindead moron. As far as sensationlist minions are concerned, there is a difference between getting truth out and sensationlism. For example. Bush used sensationalism to promote war. WMD’s. Moron.
November 19th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
hahahaha man people are stupid, THERE ALL IN IT TOGETHER PEOPLE, SHE WAS OPPOSITION NOT LONG AGO,NOW SHES ON THE BOARD, WAKE UP.
ok sorry for that, its just funny how these snakes come to the light, knowing the vengence unfolding, i find that even funnier than my ubove statement
hahahahahahahahahahaha who voted hahahahahahahahahahaha
man should of stoped voteing about the time modern man reinstalled it, hahahaha since then, there all world wide together in it all, every stinking last one of them..
HW Spartan
November 19th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Like I have been saying for over 7 years now, we have been on a pre-planned schedule.
All the players are now coming into play from behind the woodwork, in back of the true throne of power. What’s in back of it all is A HIGLY CONSISTENT & UNDISCLOSED AGENDA, INCONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING AMERICAN, particularly involving the Constitution, our Bill Of Rights and the founding principles and heritage of this entire nation.
This agenda, as many have been saying for some time now, is actually a well planned daisy chain of events, skillfully manicured and kept on course well in advance of 9/11 and therefore because of it’s precision, must therefore INCLUDE the very day of 9/11 itself. It is a COVERT MEGA PLAN, that could and would NEVER happen, if we had accountability and disclosue to our mainstream media. That’s why it’s covert, because it would never fly otherwise and so we follow the Pied Pipers of this agenda, as they “spin their story,” and we are being MISLED AGAIN & FOR A REASON!
WAKE UP AND THINK AMERICA
November 19th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
getting blood from turnips for private insurers, good luck with that Billary.
November 19th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
This happens, people should opt out no matter what they state the consequences are. This is NOT the business of the US government. If they really want to fix the system, they need to go after the lying cheating and dictating insurance companies and tell them that they ARE_GOING_TO_PAY_PERIOD.
At this point, your heath care is based on some fat slop insurance broker sitting in a cubical. Not your doctors. Until we remove the insurance issues from health care, we will make no progress.
Hillary is as nutty as Bill was. And many folks wish those two would GO AWAY. Get a life outside politics and stay off camera and out of the public eye.
November 19th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
I’m tired of people without health insurance having money stolen from their paychecks to pay for other’s GOLD PLATED HEATH PLANS! INSANE!
November 19th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Hey, Obomoids. Change you can you believe in, uh? Every nation gets the leader(s) they deserve and the tyranny they tolerate. God bless America? Not anymore!
November 19th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
freedomfighter Says:
November 19th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
For example. Bush used sensationalism to promote war. WMD’s. Moron.
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Wow…really! Did you figure that out all by yourself or did you have to read one of Alex Jones articles to come to that conclusion? All I’m saying is that although some of Alex’s articles are right on the nutz, a lot of them are just pure sensationalism to stir shit up amongst his followers. He is no better than Rush Limpballs or the National Enquirer.
November 19th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
If this treachery is enacted, I will gladly let them garnish my wages than submit myself or my family to this violation of our rights. We have watched over and over as our Constitution is eroded and erased….as is evidenced by the election of a person who has not proven their natural born status. (And even if he does, I’d wager that they manufactured whatever documents needed to support the greatest FRAUD in the history of our United States Government.)
If everyone else were willing to as well, I think this plan would fall flat on it’s ass and down the toilet where it belongs.
When are people going to WAKE the HELL UP? Do you need to read and re-read the definition of complete socialism? But then again, when you get people begging for it under the duress of a created “need”….well, it’s not very hard to usher it in. I think Goethe summed it up best: “There are none more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
November 19th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Rick78x Says:
November 19th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Hey, Obomoids. Change you can you believe in, uh? Every nation gets the leader(s) they deserve and the tyranny they tolerate. God bless America? Not anymore!
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God damn America!
We aren’t a Christian nation anymore. We are a nation full of religious zealots, false prophets making big profits off of Gods word. If we were truly a Christian nation people would be doing something about usery.
November 19th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
The fact is US citizens are being told state run medical coverage is a big Boogeyman. When you compare the medical assistance for the poorest of the poor, your record is pathetic and shameful. The neediest of people in France, England and Canada are given the same care as the wealthiest, and these countries haven’t devolved into communist boogsyman status. Get your crap together people, no baby,child,adult,senior or handicapped or challenged person should be left outside a hospital to DIE because they couldn’t afford insurance. You know what other people think? That for all your boasting of everything, you think that if someone doesn’t have insurance you say “F*** ‘Em, let ‘em die”
November 19th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
this is bogus news, purely conjecture and absolutely quixotic.
nice job agitator jones, just holding the mirror up for these cretins!
November 19th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
“We will directly tax every citizen for socialism”
Washington 2008
November 19th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Why do you spread fear, Mr Jones ?
Fear is paralyzing, didn’t you know?
Where are the solutions, where’s the talk of reason? You’re just shouting!
November 19th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Until around 1960 doctors in the US ran their practices like a business, patients had faith in their ability as doctors and they charged any amount they thought their patient could pay, and I am sure some never got paid at all. That was a time when doctors had the profession ability to feel obligated to provide a service and run a business as their pateints did.
Soon came the HMO’s, who provide no service, but are go betweens between a business(insurance companies) and doctors, who reliequished their professionalism for a multi party system.
Then came the lawyers, suing for cash for patients who had a fincial interest after the doctors began to lose their concern for direct resposability to their medical profession, Then came the insurance companies to cover the doctors for medical malpractice..
Follow the $$$$$$ People are being “farmed” for profit.
I recall “hillary Care” as a military medical care experiment during her husband’s reign on the 1990s.. Military health programs rapidly became degraded. The military family care program was the guinea pig for Hillary care and no one craed for it and that is why it dropped off the radar. Now it is back?
I would take Hillary Care when she thinks it is good enough for her.
As far as Canada.. I listen to reports from Canadians.. You wouldn’t want to show up with middle to advanced cancer in Canada wanting treatment.. You would be put on the “waiting list” for an Xray… nYou probably won’t make it to chemo ..
Can anyone name one single program the GVT runs efficiently or even close to the private sector? Even their welfare programs reek with ineptness.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
#41 you must be new you are the solution. We all need to do our part!
November 19th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Will Hillary’s health care plan cover clitoris enlargement surgery for the poor? If so, I’m there. I may be poor, but that doesn’t stop me from wanting to be just like good old Hill.
November 19th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
to This man:
If fear paralyzes you. You don’t know what you are fighting for.
November 19th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
Oh my god!! Improving healthcare?? how dare they??
America’s the only western country without healthcare for its citizens kooks
fuck capitalism, fuck alex jones, fuck you
November 19th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Sounds like the Wicked Witch of Washington plans to retool the (eugenicist) health care system to step up the NWO’s “slave soft kill” programs. Looks like it’s going to be a fabulous time to be in the funeral business. But, I imagine it’s going to put a hell of a drain on the insurance companies though. And I’ll bet you the demand for grave diggers is going to skyrocket. Hey, maybe, if I still haven’t found a job by then… Nahh, I’m sure the pay will be lousy. And I doubt if Hillary will give a sh_t. I’m beginning to suspect she’s an even bigger evil b_tch than I thought she was! Just listen to her run her mouth about her health care plan! That mouth! Seems like every time she opens it up something nobody wants comes out of it! And she’s got quite a reputation for using that mouth for chewing folks up and spitting them out, too! Hell, no wonder ol’ Bad Bill prefers farming outside their marriage for a bl_w job! I’m certain Mr. “C”s learned the hard way not to put anything he wants to keep in there, either! Once again Hillary Clinton has proved to me that her mouth is the most dangerous weapon in the NWO’s arsenal! PLEASE STOP SHOOTING OFF YOUR DEADLY DANGEROUS MOUTH, HILLARY!!!
November 19th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
How about a free labotomy for every government employee! Yes, including senators, congressmen and woman and heck every one in the white house and all their families. Heck I say let’s go one step further and give them to bilderburgers!!!! Yeah!!!
November 19th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
The bitch is BACK! Damn O’BOMBA!
November 20th, 2008 at 12:42 am
HOW DID THE WORLD MAKE IT THIS FAR WITHOUT HEALTHCARE? AMAZING!
November 20th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Have you seen the national news about all of these general practitioners quitting their fields because of getting screwed on medicare and medicaid monies they are not reimbursed for as promised?
If Hillary gets her murderous mitts into the health fray, the elderly and the disabled will be even more screwed than they are going to be in the near future.
November 20th, 2008 at 12:51 am
JP Is a member of the Sheeple tribe!!! JP, why don’t you just write me a check for my healthcare if you’re so concerned about it becoming a ‘right’ to citizens. Make your check payable to Brody, and leave it blank because I think I may need a lot of healthcare soon if Martial Law is declared.
Thanks JP! You’re a swell guy.
November 20th, 2008 at 12:58 am
Mandatory mental screenings Should scare every sane American..
“Sir, did you buy a new vehicle in the last 5years?”
“Er… no my old one is fine and paid off…”.
” sir have you purchased or read any of these books?”
why yes I have; the one on the constitution”…
report:Patient Joe B. Citizen, clearly suffers from irrational fear of credit and depedence on the state
Patient is ill and is hereby restricted from owning firearms or any cutting instruments. Patient will report to belvue hospital for drug and Electro convulsive Therapy..
November 20th, 2008 at 1:10 am
Regardless of the politics, NO ONE may require me to have regular check ups or screenings. If this is not something I chose to do, I shant do it. End of discussion.
November 20th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Well, Hillary failed her first time out of the chute after Bill was elected. Perhaps she has now learned a few things and might do a better job of it all with a second chance. I won’t mind if she has another chance. Actually, since my daughter doesn’t make enough money to provide health insurance, let alone pay for actual medical care for her children, and I cannot come up with the money to help her and the kids, I would like to see some sort of basic care for all in the U.S. and also catastrophic care as well. What does it say when a country, decidely the most powerful in the world and arguably the most wealthiest one does not provide medical care to its most vulnerable citizens? It says something sucks!!!! The U.S. gives billions to Israel and the citizens of that country have cradle to grave medical care, including care for the elderly in “nursing homes”. But we can’t do the same for our own people? It just sucks.
November 20th, 2008 at 1:25 am
Pooh Bear #56
“What does it say when a country, decidely the most powerful in the world and arguably the most wealthiest one does not provide medical care to its most vulnerable citizens?”
Pooh.. The “country” doesn’t provide a damn thing. The provisions for the non-employed welfare type people and the 16 year old unmarried pregnant girls IS PAID for by confiscation of labor through taxation. The only people who are NOT provided fro by a GVt p[rogram are those working to pay taxes..P-E-R-I-O-D.
If you work and pay taxes the GVT has no use for you and you can “pay your own health insurance and medical bills.”
If you choke out kids like a .50 cal machine gun the GVt will “assist you” at the taxapayers expense.
No GVT program will work and the GVt must be kept out of the citiozen’s affairs if we are to survive as a nation.
GVT programs simply always turn out to be Ponzi scams designed to help GVt more than anyone they claim to help.
November 20th, 2008 at 1:38 am
Of course you must realize we are actually dealing with vampires and their lairs and eventaully the strongest will emerge and reveal itself as the oldest and strongest vampire to have ever lived.
Understanding this is not difficult once one understands the true meaning of, “blood money & power.”
In every metaphoric and spiritual sense, we are dealing with a vampire mentality with all of these issues and just whom will get to suck the life’s blood out of this nation and the rest of humanity.
November 20th, 2008 at 3:19 am
the last time she was visible to all , she told everyone to send mamogram cards instead of mother’s day cards!!!!
i am not making this up !!!!!!!!!
November 20th, 2008 at 3:34 am
WARNING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mamograms are bad for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 20th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Okay everybody get ready to have socialized health-care as Obama is a socialist anyway!! And we will get it with or without Hillary!! For the whole nation will be one gigantic piece of the new world order globalist antichrist beast system!! And the books of Revelation and Daniel will be fulfilled in their day!! But don’t worry; THE GREAT GOD OF HEAVEN WILL RETURN AND CONQUER THESE EVIL luciferians in hours instead of in days and weeks and months and even years!!
November 20th, 2008 at 7:52 am
One only hopes that the stigma of the earmark does not become the latest fad.
How stunning that would be?
Shall you take it before or after the wale?
How sardonic.
November 20th, 2008 at 8:25 am
I think that people must have free access to the health care system in addition to the free or affordable drugs that have no any side effects in long-term usage. Although, there must be high and reliable medical examination. The personal health care must be the priorety.
November 20th, 2008 at 8:44 am
I do not want access to this system .It is simply too dangerous.. IT KILLS 150000 PEOPLE A YEAR.
Yes kills , not by accidental overdose, but by following strict orders. I do not want any part of it. no thanks….
I am more afraid of Doctors, prescriptions and hospitals than I am afraid of terrorist and illegals!
November 20th, 2008 at 9:41 am
this sounds to me like a similar system to the one we have in the U.K which is called ‘national insurance’
What happens is- the government takes (whether we want it to or not) a percentage of our pay check every week/month. this money goes into a central fund called the national health service.
now here’s the good bit- no matter where you are, what’s wrong with you or how much it costs, you get the medical care you need until you get better. sounds ok right? everyone pays into the system and when you need it, you get what you need…
well yes, BUT… because of how the system is structured, some people pay 100 times more into the kitty than others, some pay nothing, and ‘visitors’ to this ‘wonderful’ country take the piss because they come here, fall ill (unfortunately) get 1000’s of £’s worth of treatment then when they are better, they leave without paying a penny…
November 20th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Dear Alex and friends!
Obamas appointments are dis-appoinments.
Clintonites and black robed powerfreaks! This is change?
It’s all NWO galore.
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A remark on mandatory “health” check ups.
Here in Denmark, Europe we have had free (taxfunded) for half a century or more.
All initiative to use doctors and hospitals are on the citizens behalf. No mandatory check ups and the rigth to en any kind of treatment at any time. There are no insurance companies in play at all.
I am not saying that out system is perfect. Because it is NOT. I am justing pointing out, that mandatory check ups and mental screenings are completely unnecessary under any system.
Apart from our health care system – (which can rapidly be changed to any model dictated by the New World Order) – we are under the same kind of mind control as EU and the USA.
Only thanks to brave kindheartet people like Alex Jones – are we able to realize – what is really going on in the world.
Again thank you Alex and friends!
Keep it up!
November 20th, 2008 at 9:56 am
healthcare and electricity should be free
November 20th, 2008 at 10:36 am
the wolf looking after the chicken pen….
November 20th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Garnish? Thats why I work for another veteran who is opposed to government involvement in our lives. No reporting, no withholdings, and no slavery in the name of the fed. We convert cars to run with water. It not only works. It is safer than Gas or hydrogen fuel cells. Oh and we have food stores, guns, and training.
November 20th, 2008 at 11:17 am
I’m quite sick of people talking about who’s real and who’s controlled opposition who’s mocking bird. Why don’t we all just stop holding these people up as our own personal jesus christs and take on some responsibility of our own! Or maybe judge the tree by the fruit and the man by his words and actions. Who cares if Ron Paul or Alex Jones is NWO, CIA, Mossad, or a freaking leprechaun with panties on their head! They speak the truth and remind us of the power we hold individually and in masses and they helped wake ALL of us up to the problems we are facing and all we can do is bicker back and forth and sling mud… pointless, useless, and the best thing for the NWO system… good job “infowarriors” just keep that in-fighting up so the freedom movement gets stagnated like a Abrams in a swamp…
November 20th, 2008 at 11:25 am
New Age
(New Age Movement and New Age Spirituality) is a social collective phenomenon and a spiritual nature movement that seeks universal truth through the oneness of humanity. It combines aspects of spirituality, cosmology, esotericism, complementary and alternative medicine, various religious practices, and environmentalism. It is characterized by an eclectic and individual approach.Old Pagan religion is the New World Order revived….
Check out this video…..
http://posmedprod.webs.com/newagereligion.htm
November 20th, 2008 at 11:29 am
please please please do not ever put pictures of hilary clinton on your website, i want to gouge out my eyes
November 20th, 2008 at 11:54 am
quote: No GVT program will work and the GVt must be kept out of the citiozen’s affairs if we are to survive as a nation.
Who builds your roads then? Or runs the Military? Or the coast guard?
With regards to the UK poster. What you say is only half the truth. Emergency medical care is provided free at point of service for people visiting the UK. However if they stay for follow up treatment they are billed. Go check, there was an article in a US newspaper recently about a guy whos wife had a stroke in London and he got billed (he was comparing the two systems).
In the US, hospitals HAVE to treat people who come into ER (obviously there are cases where they haven’t) so that is no different to the UK.
I have lived in the UK and Canada as well as the US and the US system is far more of a mess then the NHS.
November 20th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Bad Health you are scared to death of your insurance company losing money! WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE! No one should be died medical care because they cannot afford it! Insurance companies are a joke! Even those who have it can have claims DENIED! I don’t agree with mandatory screenings, but the US needs universal healthcare!
November 20th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
We as “Americans” are headed into a world of ***t