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    Kurt Nimmo
    Infowars
    August 3, 2009

    The Associated Press reports today that the supposed North Carolina terrorism suspects may be tried with secret evidence. The case may involve “classified material that will raise national security issues if given to their defense attorneys,” federal prosecutors told the AP. The men charged in the case are to appear in federal court on Tuesday.

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    Is the government is attempting to keep secret Daniel Patrick Boyd’s role as a patsy?

    The government filed a motion under the Classified Information Procedures Act (CIPA), which sets guidelines for the disclosure of sensitive information. CIPA is not intended to infringe on a defendant’s right to a fair trial or to change the existing rules of evidence in criminal procedure, but it appears that is precisely what will happen if the government is permitted to keep evidence secret in the case.

    In 1996, the government used CIPA in its prosecution of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols in the Oklahoma City bombing trial (see McVeigh’s 3/96 Memo Summarizing The Classified Information Procedures Act; see also Stephen Jones’ Others Unknown, p.133). In 2007, Nichols revealed that McVeigh was connected to government provocateurs.

    It is entirely possible a similar situation exists in the North Carolina case. The AP notes:

    Prosecutors haven’t said whether the terror suspects had any specific timelines or targets, although the indictment said some of them went on trips over the past three years to Jordan, Kosovo, Pakistan and Israel “to engage in violent jihad.” The indictment said the elder >strong>Boyd received terrorist training in Pakistan and Afghanistan two decades ago and, more recently, recruited followers in North Carolina. (Emphasis added.)

    It is a well-established fact these training camps were funded by the Saudis at the behest of the CIA and managed by Pakistan’s ISI. As documented by Jason Burke (Al Qaeda: The true story of Radical Islam, p. 77-78), numerous camps were built at Zhawar Khili, Jali, Pabbi, Khaldan, Ali Khel, Tora Bora and elsewhere along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

    The training camps were maintained by a handful of Mujahideen, including Osama bin Laden (his primary camps were named Badr I and Badr II) and Gulbuddin Heckmatyar, a trusted CIA-ISI asset that received a lion’s share of covert funding. In the 1980s, CIA officials often visited these camps, according to research conducted by B. Raman of the South Asia Analysis Group.

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    Ahmed Rashid, author of Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia, estimates that after 1982 more than 100,000 Muslims from dozens of countries received political or military training in the CIA-backed camps of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Recruits included Arabs, Pakistanis, Kashmiris, Filippinos, Bosnian Muslims, Uighurs from Xinjiang in China.

    According to the current Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, in the mid-80s the CIA examined ways to increase the participation of these internationally recruited Islamic fighters, including the formation of some sort of “international brigade” (see Steve Coll, Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001, p. 146).

    A brigade of patsies and useful idiots, specicially organized to put a face on false flag terrorism, would later be created, dubbed “al-Qaeda” (after a Mujahideen database) and used for propaganda purposes in the manufactured GWOT, or “global war on terrorism,” designed as a pretext to destroy societies in the Middle East unamenable to the bankers and also construct a police state and pervasive surveillance apparatus at home.

    According federal prosecutors, Daniel Patrick Boyd are others were present at these CIA-ISI micro-managed camps in the late 80s. It appears there is something related to their presence in Afghanistan and Pakistan federal prosecutors want to keep secret and not have introduced during the trial. Is it possible the government wants to prevent any mention of the possibility Boyd and his alleged co-conspirators are in fact CIA operatives or more likely duped patsies and mental deficients?

    If so, it would hardly be a historical precedent.

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    180 Responses to “Alleged North Carolina Jihadists to be Tried with Secret Evidence”

    1. berniemadofflmao Says:

      first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Social Viability Reply:

      Government says: “He’s guilty. We have proof…..but we can’t show you the proof because you would laugh at us….I mean…..it would threaten national security. So he’s guilty but we don’t have to prove it to you. Send him to the gallows! And be thankful that we were here to protect you from these dangerous people that we fund.”

      If you’re fed up with being treated like a fool, stop acting like one. Stop running out to vote in elections like a brainwashed primate, stop listening to the grinning idiots on TV, stop using their money and stop supporting their system.

      Don’t fight the system:
      Replace it
      http://socialviability.com/

      censored31 Reply:

      And boycot their products; McDo, Coca cola, Mars, Microsoft, 21th Century, CNN, Novavax Inc., Armani, Helena Rubenstein etc…

      default warrior Reply:

      sounds like 9-11 style loaded evidence.

      like Atta’s passport, found in the rubble.
      or Atta’s luggage, not going on the plane. what are the odds of that?
      or him leaving an evidence trail.

      keep the neo cons fed with fear, so they can make everyone a terrorist.

      peaceful resistance and tape, video cameras are the solutions.

      Taliban Paid Troll Reply:

      Maybe if you Yankee jihadis would get educated like us Taliban, you’d stay out of the slammer:

      http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=6095

      zeksteve Reply:

      default warrior Reply:
      I mean seriously have you ever flown on a plane? His luggage getting on the correct plane would of proved that 911 was a conspiracy

      Sam Reply:

      This might be a test to see if they can get away with locking people away forever with a circus trial just as long as they say “He was a scary terrorist. Seriously. We’re not kidding.”

      response to default warrior Reply:

      Atta’s luggage was the ONLY luggage that didn’t make the flight. In his luggage was everything you would expect to find in a terrorist luggage. Maps, notes, threats, flight training manuals, letters to Allah, without his luggage you would never have known anything. His was the ONLY luggage not to make the flight.

      The reason they only found his luggage was because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. It was all a lie. Without that plane crashing, the never ending global US war on terror does not exist?! Without the planes the US is unable to borrow trillions of dollars and kill millions of people forever?

      What this arrest does is shows a “new face” for terrorism. It says that the new face is ANY white male, blue eyed, who also may have been former military. How many people in the US fit that description now?

      Taliban Paid Troll Reply:

      That “national security” cover is the best bet yet to hide our false flag evidence and to justify jailing anyone who gets in our way. We thank you the American taxpayer, and our CIA brokers for providing an opportunity to bring freedom and democracy in the far east.

      Soon we’ll do the same thing in the USA. After they accepted our top commandants to Harvard a few years ago, we proved we could rule the world!

      BTW- These CIA Yankee Jihadis will be secretly promoted after their show trials are over to pave public acceptance for the REAL show biz trials: YOURS!

      Taliban Paid Troll Reply:

      My mistake. Homeland Security has pointed out, they attended YALE, not Harvard. No offense to the Crimson. We did plenty of recruiting there among the wasp-looking sort and got the kind of CIA assets even THEY couldnt snag!

      http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=6095

      antinwo Reply:

      you make the taliban look bad

      censored31 Reply:

      Activist Marcel Vervloesem was also convicted with secret evidences:

      He discovered in 1998, a file of more than 100.000 photographs of rapes, murder and torture of children, which were sold on Internet as from Zandvoort in Holland. You can see judges, politicians, a member of the royal family and a director of the national TV channel naked with little children.

      More info:

      http://censored31.skynetblogs.be

      censored31 Reply:

      Operation “Zandvoort” is linked to opeation “Koala” which you all must known about.

      Ant S Reply:

      Damn..I need to find a replacement for something to mix with my RUM…..No Coke-A-Cola…Sorry I got upset there for a moment…This is such bullshXt the government created this farce of a terror threat by some lame AXX homegrown NC boys ..Just my opinion

      Taliban Paid Troll Reply:

      Dont look any farther than your local synagogue. Adam Gadahn whose grandfather was on the board of ADL, and the most recent jewish convert who at least knows how to dress in politically correct Ayrab photos for his terrorist headshots.

      Who says the jews and muslims cant work together??

      brad Reply:

      COCA COLA IS THE BEST DRINK IN THE WORLD.

      briar Reply:

      Better than drinking koolaid. They use it in India by the kegs to clean hiways off after accidents. no joke.

      Half-Grand Reply:

      They also use coka-cola to degrease engines in certain factories.

      Coka-Cola company is a member of the council of foreign relations and so it should recieve nothing from us.

      Don’t support a company that supports the New World Order!

      Brad is a troll, Coka-Cola is poison for the body.

      brad Reply:

      everyone is a troll right. I been drinking coke for long while and nothing has happened to my body other then having some cavitys, Coke is prob the best drink tasting for me all other drinks are ethier too sweet or to plain. Yes it is bad for the body because the surger , caffine, phosphoric acid but you can balence it out with eating first then drinking . Stop being so paranoid.

      JOEY Reply:

      but…but.. What if I have a Mac-attack?

      Ba Marley Reply:

      Censored 31: Your website is EXCELLENT! Tres bon! Merci beaucoup. Thank you for providing so much good information. You’re a true, professional journalist.

      http://censored31.skynetblogs.be/

      Do you have a complete list of companies to boycott? Can you put an English-language boycott section on your website? I think it’s a good idea, we need to know more about which companies to boycott.

      Again, merci mon ami!

      JB Reply:

      So much for Obama’s “transparent” government.

      nader paul kucinich gravel Reply:

      The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings.

      We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.

      default warrior Reply:

      good pull.

      one small voice Reply:

      its why they killed the guy. see what telling the truth gets you?

      Taliban Paid Troll Reply:

      Al-Qaeda tells US conditional truce offer still on the table
      Tuesday, August 04, 2009 Daily Star

      Dont believe a word of it. Its just Al Qaeda competing with us for some of that CIA taxpayer bailout money.

      nocheektaturn Reply:

      WORD UP !

      Bohemian Rove Reply:

      Whats the update on 2009 Bohemian Grove? Anything from David Gergen over at CNN?
      They Exec VIP mtg finished on Aug 2.

      chrome Reply:

      Many years ago The “agency’s used a company called I EAT POOH which as far as I know still exists in Sacramento to slander and create bulls--- much like cointelpro and could be financed through or by them when I was drawing attention to myself when I realized they were setting me up again to see if I would follow through on a murder pointing the finger at someone else like Oswald. Being an Expert rifleman in the Military but one of their failures as I saw what happened to VETS in Nam and how the Blacks rose up on Ft Hood and murdered white people and got away with it just because ALL WHITE PEOPLE WERE NOW THE ENEMY to the black race yes 73-76 stomped to death…. They are suppose to be attacking me soon as the deal was remember boys you pay me 3.5 mill and I’ll play the game 1987 Why don’t you just pay me the money and I won’t write the book! How many times did you set me up and I never followed through? All those “HEAT WAVES’ ALL YOUR BULLs--- ALL THE SIC NESS ALL THE CHURCHES ALL THE NEIGHBORS ALL THE JOBS ALL THE ENDLESS MIND CONTROL AND NOW YOU TELL EVERYONE YOUR GIVING ME A BREAK?

      chrome Reply:

      Ah there goes the computer again what message are you sending now The qabazards f--- there little boys in the ass and you did’nt want America to know or the church would’nt support an attack on Iraq you set it up so pristine Eve handing Sadam the Apple the freedom to attack QUATE and you used Patty Ricken Alias Snider Alias Heart Alias Patty Qabazard Remember him the one you let operate on people in hospitals HMMMMM? The real Hostel story 3rd wealthiest family? Oil Ministers? Yes I believe I have a Texas newspaper clipping with the Qabazard family calling George God and naming a srteet after him? No one ever hears this families name why don’t we talk openly about this? Persian f---ing little boys and we’re going to go and defend them Oh Jesus

      Patrick Reply:

      Sniff It First
      ANYONE could have a scandalous story built up about them and spread as “truth”. This man’s convictions to just do the “right” thing has the possibility now to “convict” him. In today’s American circus, do YOU have the testicular fortitude to stand up for ANYTHING right when someone else, particularly our masters, would find the action to be offensive?

      Before you swallow everything mass media puts on your plate, you might do well to sniff it first. I have stepped in it a few times, but never eaten it.

      breakingpoint Reply:

      I live in N.C. approx. 20 minutes from the town Patrick Boyd lived in. The entire thing just kinda stinks from the stand point of our local news. I’ve yet to see any photos released of his two sons, who are not minors, by any of our local media nor are they mentioned regularly although they were also arrested. There have been many in the community of Willow Springs where Boyd lived that have come out in support of him stating he was anything but a crazed terrorist. They’ve stated how he was helpful to his neighbors and the community and were completely shocked by the aligations. I know at one time most Serial Killers were great guys too but the support is overwelming with neighbors making an posting front yard ” Support Boyd” signs. The arrest also suspiciously occured simotaniously with the arrival of Obama in Raleigh (about 10 minutes away) for his “town hall” ObamaCare meeting at a local high school. I just wish more was being done to be objective. My personal feeling is he may have been stock piling weapons for events we all know are coming from the real terrorist.

      Taliban Paid Troll Reply:

      Any man that would wear a gingham blouse, deserves to be show-trialled. Is this a tactic by the Yankee jihadis to discredit The Resistance??

      Sam Reply:

      You’re being annoying and your role-play comments are pointless. Just thought you should know.

      Taliban Paid Troll Reply:

      From The Sunday Times August 2, 2009
      Scientists fear a revolt by killer robots

      Our biggest fear is having our terrorism jobs outsourced to robots and extraterrestrials. Guess no one is indespensible.

      me too Reply:

      Your comments are very good, Sam. Thanks for contributing.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      UNDT VE CANT TELL YUE VHAT YOU DID.

      VE CANT TELL YUE WHY YOU DIDZ.

      ALL WEZE CAN TELL YOUD IZ, YOU DID ITZ.

      Vince Reply:

      The Churches and Fundamentalist Christians love this type of news…….. they preach it from the pulpit and help the NWO wolves fool us with their sheep news.

      drayfich Reply:

      Ja not all fundamentalist Christians… but I know where you coming from. Just be sure you don’t turn your back on the Lord himself in these careful times.

      I am not amused Reply:

      Vince:

      Not all bible believing Christians walk in lock step to what you see portrayed on the television.

      I am almost sure most actually don’t. I am a bible believing Christian. I use the word fundamentalist very reluctantly because of the negative connotation I sometimes even have toward it by the images projected on the television screen. I believe that the bible is the word of God and Jesus is God incarnate let us leave it there.

      Do you wonder why all those type’s seem to have the biggest megaphone. Maybe they get it because they are that way or maybe sold out to the powers that be. There are I am almost sure Christians pastors that have whored themselves to the government. Tragically.
      Just because you sit in a pulpit or have the title of Pope does not mean that when you die you will not be condemned to hell.

      Most are in the pulpit everyday and doing what they know to be best and probably do not agree at all. You do not hear about them much, well maybe because they don’t agree.

      One excellent preacherman put it this way, a seduced bride. Tragically I am sure he is right. The preacherman all need to stay away from the very corrupt government and do what Christ actually told them to do; MAKE CHRISTIANS!

      I don’t have all the answers. I think I may be onto something.

      I am not amused Reply:

      Vince:

      Sent that one off too soon.

      Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. – Jesus

      Would you want this done too you? If not you should never let it come from you’re lips that it is acceptable by any stretch of the imagination.

      Love thy neighbor as thyself. Convicting your neighbor and they can’t even know the charges it not loving thy neighbor by a long shot.

      The lord has quite a bit to say about corrupt judicial systems in the bible. If they live like there is no God they had better pray they are right.

      God’s law is love and the gospel is our plea.

      This is not love. It is tyranny and corruption.

      Have no part in the unfruitfull works of darkness; instead expose them. Eph: 5-11
      It is not an option to stay silent either.

      This is what the bible really teaches.

      I will end it there.

      puppetsinDC Reply:

      with everything that is happening in America and the world, and you are just so happy to be 1st, what, 1st to post a reply that says “1st”, ok you are 1st, not what in life is your next dream? maybe you can go to pogo and beat some kid at checkers.

      puppetsinDC Reply:

      with everything that is happening in America and the world, and you are just so happy to be 1st, what, 1st to post a reply that says “1st”, ok you are 1st, not what in life is your next dream? maybe you can go to pogo and beat some kid at checkers

      chuckieami Reply:

      First? With nothing to say? What is that all about? Seems like a waste of time.

      TheHonorableJudge Reply:

      I understand the first thing. You see by the time you type something besides 1st and post you will then be last but really you are the last to post even if you are first until a new post apears. Do ya see what I am getting at? The first post thing is ass-a-nine.

      TheHonorableJudge Reply:

      Is there such a thing as secret evidence in a free society? I never get picked for jury duty cause I would not buy this BS.

      Me Reply:

      On Monday Aug. 3rd AJ had a guest on his show that calls himself a psychiatrist. I call him a misinformation agent. It is shows like this one that convince me that AJ is nothing but a provocateur.
      I am a Psychologist (by virtue of 8 years of school, and degrees). On the show in question this quack and Alex Jones were talking about involuntary institutionalization and use of psychotropic medications.
      In the early part of the twentieth century there were insane asylums all over the US and they did indeed practice involuntary institutionalization and use of meds. However, in the sixties and seventies a process of deinstitutionalization began. Many asylums were closed and community mental health programs began. Laws were passed making it illegal to institutionalize individuals without their consent (unless they broke the law) even if they have a full blown psychosis. It is also illegal to make individuals take any drugs without their informed consent. These laws are still in effect and adhered to by psychological professionals.
      It is clear to me that Alex Jones is a misinformation agent for the NWO trying to provoke the people into revolt. So that we can then be rounded up or taken out.

      antinwo Reply:

      people like you make the world bad (Me)

      Me Reply:

      Just how am I making the world bad? for speaking the truth? I believe that there are forces of evil at work here, that the elite are planning a total take over. I don’t trust Alex Jones. Nor should any of us trust anyone without examining what they are doing. Believe me I would love to trust AJ but this is a subject that I know about and I know that what AJ and this quack were saying is false so we must question his motives and the other things that he says. You’ve got to admit this forum is a perfect way to identify who the opposition might be.

      babarishka Reply:

      Let’s discuss our mental health system. I have a friend who made a remark a couple of months ago about wanting to off himself. Anyone who knows him knows that he would never do this. However, he is a bit of a lazy sod and hadn’t worked in several months and was not looking for work.

      So. his sister called the cops, figuring she’d teach him a lesson and get his ass moving. The cops came and took him away involuntarily even though he stated he had said what he did just to get his sister off of his back. He stayed at the waiting room of the Erie County Medical Center in Buffalo, CPEP unit, for nearly 3 days in what he described as conditions right out of a horror movie.

      They would not let him take a shower until day three. The food was horrific. People were lying on the floor urinatiing and defecating. There were no sleeping accomodations – just chairs. He would go to the nurse’s window to report that someone had urinated on himself or that someone else was threatening violence and the nurses would tell him to go sit down and go on as if nothing was happening. He would see them behing their glass window laughing and having a grand old time as people were herded into a small room like cattle, urinating, screaming, pacing, etc.

      One poor soul had gone to the hospital for the removal of a cyst, was on his way out of the hospital, went down the wrong corridor and wound up at CPEP by mistake – they kept him there for a day and a half until they finally found out that he did not belong there.

      I’ve know this guy for 10 years and he would have zero reason to lie to me. He did get a job though.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      babarishka – Are you sure that “hospital” is not your home?

      babarishka Reply:

      I knew it was you. Whatsa matter pushka, can’t take the fact that I ripped you a new bunghole on that other thread. Ya know, the one in which you offered up a couple of strawman arguments, rewrote history as neo-Nazis do, and failed to address the majority of the points that I brought up? Is that what’s troubling you?

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      babarishka – You have yet to make a point that contains ANY facts.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      babarishka = Loch in kup. Moisheh kapoyer & alter kockers shmeckle schlepper.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      babarishka – What’s wrong, did you trip over your fat ass, Miss Oversize Load of Pure Bulls---?

      Me Reply:

      Yes you are right in that a person can be held for 72 hours, beyond that the person would have to be shown to be a danger to themselves or others. I don’t doubt that there are abuses but people are not being locked up on a whim.
      I myself had an experience in which an ex girlfriend called the police on me and told them that I was gonna kill myself. The cops broke down my door and sprayed me with mase, I’m a very large guy 6′5″ 300 lbs. They hauled me to the doctor and when the Dr. found out that I was the head of the psychology dept at a local college, he told the cops to take me home. The cops argued with the Dr. but the Dr. held his ground. I guess if it wasn’t for my position they would have brought me to the nut hut. So in light of this reflection I guess I should be open to the possibility to more blatant abuse in the system.
      Thanks for the argument, perhaps opened my eyes a little. I have been out of psych for about 6 years now.

      babarishka Reply:

      Ex-girlfriends – gotta love’m…………………..

      The mental health system is open to abuse to be sure. Just like CPS. I don’t agree with Alex that all CPS workers are demons. The fact is, there ARE monstrous, abusive parents out there – parents who burn their kids with cigarettes, physically, psychologically and sexually abuse them, etc. Of course, that system too is open to corruption. Any system or bureaucracy is really, not to mention our judicial system, to finally get back on topic.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      “Me” = A common, everyday moron. Education does NOT equate to intellectual capability OR common sense, it merely shows you have memorized enough second hand bulls--- to satisfy the “educators”.

      babarishka Reply:

      At least he doesn’t think that Stalin was jewish or that Jesus wasn’t born of a jewish woman or attended Passover (not that I’m religious but at least read the book without obliterating it). Maybe you agree with Sir Baby De Porky and believe that Jesus was born to Cleopatra.
      I PROMISE not to go off topic anymore despite anything this double digit IQ subhuman says. Go for it…………………………………………

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      babarishka – Why all the Jew, Jew , Jew, Jew propaganda, yutzi schmekle?!

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      babarishka – I’m glad you could admit you have only achieved double digit I.Q. scores, that is very manly of you. BTW, Two of my three sons are Rhodes scholars, I have earned J.D. and M.D. degrees from Emory with top honors. My late first wife was a Pediatric Neurosurgeon who specialized in treating medulloblastomas, my present wife is a practicing Attorney at Law and serves as lead counsel (at age twenty nine) for Eon energy.

      babarishka Reply:

      What are your degrees in, rewriting history and bigotry? Weren’t you the one that just stated that:

      “Me” = A common, everyday moron. Education does NOT equate to intellectual capability OR common sense, it merely shows you have memorized enough second hand bulls--- to satisfy the “educators”.

      LMAO – gotta go…………………………………..

      babarishka Reply:

      Why all the jew propaganda – what a hypocrite. It is you who brings it up on a regular basis – normally, I only react.

      Personally, I could give a rat’s ass whether one is jewish (whatever your definition), black, muslim, Lithuanian or whatever. I live in peace with all except for murderers, child molesters, muggers, NWO elitist scumbags and those who hate based upon race or religion – like yourself.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      babarishka – This is what I did for twenty eight years – I’ll see you on JewTube, I’ve been picking on you to test your mettle, Balebetishen Yidden…………………………………………………………………. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....playnext=1

      babarishka Reply:

      Test my mettle – LMAO. You have yet to address my issues from the other thread. I’ll check it out later for a laugh, oh schmeckelhead. With a nice Heineken beer (at least that’s one thing the Germans got right). Heil Heime………………………………………..

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      barbarishka – Awaken to reality, bubeleh, you’ve been had.

      babarishka Reply:

      To recap, two statements by the Watcher:

      “babarishka – I’m glad you could admit you have only achieved double digit I.Q. scores, that is very manly of you. BTW, Two of my three sons are Rhodes scholars, I have earned J.D. and M.D. degrees from Emory with top honors. My late first wife was a Pediatric Neurosurgeon who specialized in treating medulloblastomas, my present wife is a practicing Attorney at Law and serves as lead counsel (at age twenty nine) for Eon energy.”

      “Me” = A common, everyday moron. Education does NOT equate to intellectual capability OR common sense, it merely shows you have memorized enough second hand bulls--- to satisfy the “educators”.

      Oh I forgot, Heineken is made in Holland. Scratch that………………..

      Me Reply:

      Who is the moron? you don’t even give a well thought out rebuttal to my statements. Hell you don’t even give me a poorly thought out rebuttal. No, you go straight to calling me names, typical on this site. you really are showing me and the world your intelligence level. IQ of 65. YOU f---ING DOLT.

      babarishka Reply:

      Notice how the Watcher went on to other postings below.

      “Me”, he actually agreed with you several postings down. His short-term memory is not surpising though, as it assists him in rewriting history and mercifully allows him to forget that he has just been mentally trounced again. Try not to forget Watcher, that was only 2 postings up.

      Babarishka – 2……..the Watcher – 0

      “Me:, as for my disagreement with you re: the state of mental health treatment, at least I gave a relevant example.

      As for Alex, I don’t know if I would judge him that harshly. I mean, he does state that it might come down to physically defending ourselves, but he advocates peaceful methodology first and foremost.

      I’m about ready for that beer………………..

      ®¤ D~ÅяT Reply:

      I’m Super cereal about this man-bear-pig!

      kimpunkrock Reply:

      berniemadofflmao do us a favor……go f---ing look in the mirror and say 1000 times-
      ” I am a mentally Ill idiot.”

      mad mac's Reply:

      you jack ass wooooo you are first & foremost an idiot roflmao@ your dumb ,stupid ass

    2. I Love Alex Jones Says:

      Be the first to learn about Obama’s birth certificate. The truth that is.

      http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/

      reply to "I Love Alex Jones Says" Reply:

      You are full of s---, you made up your name to try and fit in here. You are nothing more than an Obama worshiper, f--- you and your birther attack website! Obama is an illegal.

      kimpunkrock Reply:

      No dude Obama is not an “illegal” he just not a natural born citizen. I mean do you not know the difference or what?

      You dont have to go to college to get educated, all you have to do is read books on history, etc. Try it, you might like it.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      I Love Alex Jones – Sorry, but there is no such class of U.S. Citizenship as “native born”. Either someone is a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”, as REQUIRED by the CONSTITUTION, or THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT…. OBAMA IS NOT, AND CANNOT E V E R BE CLASSIFIED A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”. GET OVER IT, THE SORRY BASTARD WILL BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE. YOU IGNORANT ASSHOLE!

      CM Reply:

      The birthers are going to start riots throughout the black community if Obama is ever removed. Anyway Biden would probably be worse. Look at his comments over the years. If Obama is removed & riots start, martial law may be around the corner. Think of the repercussions before trying to get rid of him.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      CM – SCREW “the black community” and their very ignorant and whiny ass opinions – decent people are tired of hearing the bulls--- those weak black losers harp on and on about. IF THE BASTARDS IN WASHINGTON REFUSE TO ADDRESS THE OBAMA ISSUE, LET THE REVOLUTION BEGIN!

      babarishka Reply:

      What were your two college degrees in again?

    3. Madman Says:

      Secret evidence…
      Sounds like Made Up evidence to me, pulled straight out of someone’s ass to me.
      Something stinks, and I believe it’s the Government more than inbred Jihad.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      SENT HIS MEN TO EAT OUR SUBSTANCE.

      Me Reply:

      I’m really getting sick of our rogue govt. I have been careful as to the things that I post here because I know that infowarriors will be among the first that are rounded up and shipped off to the camps. But I’m just tired of holding my tongue. When you govt f---S come to get me you better bring a couple of f---ing tanks with you cuz your gonna need them. Any pussy ass mother f---ers that help the NWO put US citizens in camps should be lined up and shot.

      P.S. sorry for the language but it expresses my RAGE.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      Me – AMEN!

      babarishka Reply:

      Heil Heime. Praise Yeshua.

      ScrewyL Reply:

      NOW… You are free.

    4. euripedes Says:

      second……….:(

      Me Reply:

      No, you just smell like #2.
      LOL

    5. PrivateSi Says:

      You DO KNOW CENTRALIZED SECURITY SYSTEMS are the WORST SECURITY SYSTEMS IMAGINABLE!! They are holier than SWISS CHEESE! All they are good for is MONITORING THE POPULATION while LEAKING INFO TO OTHERS, either via MOLES or DOUBLE-AGENTS, often corps, sometimes papers, USUALLY ENEMIES!!

      ScrewyL Reply:

      Yes. Security and centralization are mutually exclusive. Centralization is not security; it is control.

      chrome Reply:

      Very good PrivateSi

    6. hadenough Says:

      I don’t know about all this CIA secret agent training stuff, but it makes perfect sense to me with regards to “secret evidence”. Why in the hell would we give out our sources, methods and whatever else it takes to get the bad guys. Now as for all the chatter about gov’t supported terrorism, I’m kind of thinking that there just has to be a few bad guys out there that don’t like us, and do their own training. Call me crazy.

      judge sixkiller Reply:

      You’re not crazy, you’re just missing the point. Sure there are a few bad guys out there, but the ones you’re thinking of (the ones that “hate us for our freedoms”) are so rare that you are more likely to get struck by lightning in the same spot on three separate occasions than to ever be harmed by one. Most of the others (the ones that aren’t government-sponsored) merely want the U.S. to stop killing, manipulating, and stealing from them. They are commonly referred to as “insurgents”. You already admitted “I don’t know about all this CIA secret agent training stuff,” which IS the point of this article.

      drayfich Reply:

      Yeah ur crazy. Or is it candide?

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      hadenough – We have discovered one of America’s worst “bad guys” is headquartered at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C. and we are keeping a close watch on him…..SHHHHHHHH!

      ScrewyL Reply:

      Your city needs you.

      antinwo Reply:

      yeah bristol

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      f--- Obama AND Congress!

      I am not amused Reply:

      hadenough:

      The founding fathers wrote the Constitution to protect you from your government. They had first hand knowledge on how tyrants worked. The phony trials, faked evidence, corrupt judge ect. That is why you are guaranteed the right to a jury by your peers and not a corrupted bought off judge!

      You are guaranteed the right to see the evidence in that document they swore to uphold.

      The reason it is there, because a government will surely abuse it. No, you do not get to convict anyone without them seeing the evidence, it is immoral. They really don’t even have to have any.

      You can not strip that right from everyone in the name of national security. It is an excuse just like all the others. Excuses are like you know what’s everyone has one.

      If you don’t think that little piece of paper called the Constitution is important, them you let it go because it is the only thing legally that protects you from our very corrupt government.

      Well, it used to tragically.

      They could show you the evidence and not compromise national security. I don’t buy it for a minute.

      Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

      Solomon was right – There is nothing new under the sun.

      Same ol crap, new face!

    7. justme Says:

      THIS IS OFF-TOPIC, BUT YOU *MUST* SEE THIS ON YOU-TUBE (4 DAYS OLD & 140,000 HITS!).

      NOW WE ALL KNOW WHY THE ‘CASH-FOR-KLUNKERS’ PROGRAM PROVED SO ‘SUCCESSFUL’…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waj2KrKYTZo

      justme Reply:

      heh heh heh

      jim cunningham Reply:

      dur her her, cool dude! f---ing morons. the govt requires receipt of the addition of sodium silicate the engine to seize it. huge waste to me. i sell the stuff. its making me money. i still think its a shame.

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      justme – The sooner they get rid of those total pos Volvos, the better off America will be. Never has there been a more unsafe and over-rated piece of junk. Volvo has been caught NUMEROUS times lying about the “safety” of their vehicles. In one TV commercial, a monster truck ran over a Volvo, but the roof would not crush. Volvo had secretly added massive amounts of reinforcing material to the car and the Federal Trade Commission caught them! VOLVO LIES and LIES and LIES!

    8. Sir Baby De Porky Says:

      ” Secret evidence ” ?!? That’s an oxymoron if a ever heard one !!!

      P.S. They’re going bonkers !!!

      Gary Head Reply:

      Yeah, if you accept the term “secret evidence” your mind is controlled and your thoughts are their invention.

    9. frak Says:

      This is John Walker Lindh Redux. They would have fit into the Very Large Array of possibile tools to be used for false flag ops..

    10. Hovatine Says:

      This story stank from the first moment I heard it on the news. The purpose of these false flag “home grown terrorists” is to pave the way for arresting dissenters. The more they can draw up these phony connections between jihad and “right wing extremists” the more they will be able to detain nearly anyone they want on the wings of public fear.

      Your government is the leading purveyor of terrorism.

      justme Reply:

      and with all the dissention as of late, those critters are beginning to look rather irritated…

    11. Ken Says:

      Looks like a patriot to me, but I guess to the crimminals running the Fed he would be a terrorist.

      THEY are the terrorists and their time will come.

      END THE FED

    12. jim from FL Says:

      unleash a tsunami of fliers under windshield wipers worldwide

    13. TRIATHLON Says:

      (TW&P) THINKERS-WORKERS-AND-PONDERS

      (Status Quo Teaching)

      Now, Will Rogers was dubbed the Oklahoma Cowboy Philosopher of his time, and once wrote (You see, a young man he just thinks, but an old man when he’s sitting and thinking, why he’s supposed to be pondering), and that is a pretty fair enough statement, the difference between the two is of course a life-time of practical living and experience, the young man has to base his taught on textbooks, and the input of tenured professors whose job it is to support the status quo, as they are part of the system. The young man has had no chance or opportunity to put to the test yet the status quo education that has been gotten. Now, the old man has passed thru the year of hands on learning and along the way thrown out the textbook as past thinking not worth a plug nickel in the real world and the tenured professors’ status quo philosophies.

      (A Time of Action)

      But, history has shown time and time again that thinkers-workers-and-ponders come together, and one day the thinkers within the halls of academia see thru all that smoke and mirrors, and realize that in fact they are simply being feed the pabulum of the status quo, looking into the reality of an empty future they are walking out into, and begin to listen to the ponderings of the old men, who asks the questions, Who, What, When, Where, and Why. Who created this empty future, the (544/DC) Clowns those that represent the Status Quo? What are you prepared to do to end this Status Quo? When are you prepared to take action to change the Status Quo? Where does this action begin, after leaving the ivory towers of academia or within the walls of it? Why do you remain silent and sit thinking when the time for thinking has ended and the time for action has arrived?

      (White Knuckled Anger)

      Some say that idle hands are the tools of the Devil, it depends on if you are the Status Quo, or those whose hands have been idled by the Status Quo. The Worker who no longer has a job a source of income a means to support his family or put food on the table, who first runs the fingers of his idle hands thru his hair in disbelief, then he cups his face within the palms of his calloused palms, in grief for his in ability to provide and protect his family from the fait that will befall them, then he places his hands palm down as the anger begins to rise, knowing full well the answers to the questions of Who, What, When, Where, and Why, then his hands ball into a white knuckled fist of pure ANGER, and the time has come for the hands that once toiled in honest labor to grasp by the nape of the neck those who hold responsibility for idle hands, the Status Quo (544/DC).

      (The Status Quo Tells You)

      The Status Quo tells you they are the Solution, they are the problem! The Status Quo tells you they will lead you into the future, they are mired in the unchanging creation of their own making! Disraeli said (With words we govern men), but if the words are hollow, they are only words, and the Status Quo offers only hollow words, and worse they offer you lies, and unfilled promises. The Status Quo continually use the word Change and remain Unchanged! The Status Quo talks peace as it wages wars of Markets and Resources! The Status Quo talks of greater prosperity and world prominence while unemployment rises and the value of the currency plummets. The Status Quo the (544/DC) Clowns and Criminals are not the force to guide the present generation into the future, they are the past the leadership MUST come from the Thinkers of academia not its professors, the force comes from the idle hands of the workers, and the wisdom form the ponders the future is that of the Thinkers-Workers-and-Ponders, and not the Status Quo.

      (So The March Begins)

      So the march begins, as the young man the thinker, joins with the idle handed workers, seeing that those who have been the victims of the Status Quo, been thru the grist mill to become ponders offer more wisdom and warning of what awaits them then ivy league professors or politicians of the Status Quo present, ask not for whom the Bell Tolls it Tolls for Thee, the future is yours if you want it, but nothing comes without hands on the nape of the neck of the Status Quo, nothing comes free it must be taken from the Status Quo, there is a price to be paid to end the Status Quo it will not just hand over the reins of power , those who seeks to maintain the Status Quo the (544/DC) and their lackeys, are the past, and have created and empty present with idle hands, a present that demands thinkers, leadership to focus and direct the anger of those idled hands to the napes of the necks of those who time has come. The time of the Independent (TBAM) Take Back America Movement, a Movement of Thinkers, Workers, and Ponders, has come, it is time to end the Status Quo.

      Hercule Triathlon Savinien

      Valiant-Thor Reply:

      Then let us sieze that moment and slay this morbid dragon while it is drunk on its own vapours!Carpe Diem!

      Valiant-Thor Reply:

      So that we may once again create a Novus Ordo Seclurum.

    14. roaddog Says:

      What a way to run a just-us system.

    15. N8 Says:

      Never in the history of our country can I remember White Al-qaeda, and here it is 2009, Patrick Boyd! Whatever, I cant even think of the word for this well scripted propaganda, I beleive white alqaeda is about as common as unicorns!

    16. Taliban Paid Troll Says:

      Why is Alex Jones erasing our posts? His special CIA funding in danger?

      LiQUiDICE Reply:

      i’m sure he only deletes your posts for an obvious reason.

    17. six pack Says:

      um,a white guy now thats a change

    18. SPIRITBLADE Says:

      It’s against the constitution folks.

      Try my-ass that way, and i’m taking you all to Hell with me.

    19. Jaro Says:

      Haarp Hits Alberta !

      On August 2, 2009 I decided to produce a small video to ignite interest in people regarding the eratic weather behavior that I personally believe is a HAARP project. This Alaskan project is used to sway the public away from the truth of nature itself.What is strange is that Alberta is not known for tornadoes , in the last 3 weeks we have had constant weather warnings and it appears that they are forming in the same location where Haarp Ionizes there clouds in alaska !

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07car_

      jim cunningham Reply:

      you tube said your video is malformed.

    20. Steve Says:

      The videos from 80+ cameras which caught on tape the detailed evidence of a small military airplane crashing into the Pentagon cannot be shown to the American public for “National Security” reasons.

      The criminals inside our government who orchestrated 9/11 feel very INSECURE about the general public knowing that NO 757 HIT THE PENTAGON.

      Who are we to question them about National Security ????????????????????????????????????????

      We are serfs in a world ruled by elites chosen by GOD !

      Booliu Reply:

      The Synagogue of Satan aka Zionists have much more fear and terror planned for the world. Their grand leader (THE ANTICHRIST) will usher in the most evil epoch in the history of mankind. Muslims declared war on these guys a long long time ago and only now are WE waking up.

    21. one small voice Says:

      monarch/MK ultra.

    22. SPIRITBLADE Says:

      BEST EVIDENCE YET, TO NEVER LET THEM TAKE-YOU ALIVE.

      ONCE YOU’RE ‘IN’- IT”S ALL OVER, BUT THE CRIIN’.

    23. Andrew Jackson Says:

      this is the scariest article i have read on infowars. freedom is officially dead. evidence ALWAYS has to be presented to the people in a free society. i hate the US, English, and Israeli federal governments so much that the thought of them existing for one more day makes me sick. let’s pick a state and secceed from the union. no guns needed. just turn your back on washington and ignore their laws, rules, regulations, and taxes.

      DEATH TO THE NWO

      Tilsiu Reply:

      Every Rotary Club, Lions Club, Scottish Rite, Templers, Evangelical Church and the hundreds of other secret organizations in nearly EVERY TOWN IN THE USA will come to the rescue of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

      They have been promising each other paradise on earth in exchange for supporting the ANTICHRIST SYSTEM.

    24. Fred Says:

      It is a well known fact that the most “radical” books printed to entice Arabs to train for war and fight the anti-religion/heathenish communists were printed by the CIA. Very few realize that Communism was created by Zionists who use secularism as a cover to attack all non Hebrew religions. After the fall of the USSR the Muslims continued their fight against Communism by setting their sites on the Zionists.

      Zionism=Communism=Bolshevekism=Leninism=Trotskyism=NWO

      diedaily Reply:

      Oh no, no, no fred. Aren’t you listening to the government? It goes like this:

      Anti-zionist = Holocaust Denier = Jew Hating Nazi = White al-Qaida = Every US Citizen.

      Fred, just turn yourself in. We need to kill ourselves because we are evil? You want to fight evil, don’t you?

      Julian Reply:

      LOL, so true !!!

      Sam Reply:

      Watch this: http://video.google.com/videop.....7057510562

      Plinth Reply:

      Your video is a waste of time and irritating. Keep your trash off the board.

    25. roaddog6 Says:

      is it here

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    27. Me Says:

      I’m wondering if there are any truthers that are also bikers? here is a group of people that we need to wake up.

      babarishka Reply:

      Many are racists and neo-Nazis like you know who. Not all of course. In fact, I used to hang with a biker in my younger days. He wasn’t a complete outlaw but he was pretty rough around the edges. This was about 20 years ago. Come to think of it, a few of his biker buddies were, in fact, extremely racist. One had a swastika tatooed on his forehead – he was always getting into fights in bars and stuff. Probably dead or toothless by now.

      If you’re talking about just any dude who likes riding (like my one attorney yuppie friend) that’s one thing. If you’re talking about outlaw bikers, well, outlaws are outlaws – black, white or whatever.

    28. Steve Says:

      If Boyd’s trial has any similarity with other ‘terror’ trials then the main evidence will be taped conversations between him and his ‘terror recruits’.

      The conversations will appear meaningless about grocery shopping or planning lunch together. However, prosecutors will successfully argue that the innocent sounding conversations actually contain ‘code words’ for violent jihad and that they were actually planning violent terrorist acts.

      In other words, Boyd and his friends will be prosecuted for hypothetical thoughts in their minds while they were having innocent sounding conversations.

      This type of evidence has resulted in prison terms of other ‘terrorists’ of more than 15 years. Boyd could get the same.

      Paula Reply:

      Every Muslim is guilty of thought crimes…… they believe Zionism is a threat to all of mankind and that is a crime against the NWO.

    29. jc Says:

      i can’t imagine what they are gonna do to this poor asshole to get a confession out of him…that is IF he isn’t already working for the CIA…I mean what part of common sense tells you that this f--- goes all the way to…north carolina…(beautiful state btw just saying)…no city…not dc…or il…or ny…or even la…but north carolina…to wage “Jihad” on the american people? give me a f---ing break…this is even worse than the coked out dudes from Miami story…

    30. Julian Says:

      How many Islamophobic Pro-NWO Christians are in the US military fighting a “VIOLENT CRUSADE” all over the Muslim world ?

      Invading, Killing, Raping and Torturing……….. then GOD curses them with PTSD and they return home to get the worst medical care money can buy.

      “Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen” (Deuteronomy 27:25).

      Ruilin Reply:

      “In every country and in every age the [Church / Priest] has been hostile to liberty; he is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.” – Thomas Jefferson

    31. kil Says:

      Not all white people are terrorists – BUT allllllllllllllllllllllllllll terrorists are white!!!

      Everyone in the world knows this!!!

      THE WATCHER Reply:

      kil – Reality has escaped from your head like the air escapes from a knifed tire!

      babarishka Reply:

      You must be referring to yourself. Just in case you forgot, my posting from above…….

      To recap, two statements by the Watcher:

      “babarishka – I’m glad you could admit you have only achieved double digit I.Q. scores, that is very manly of you. BTW, Two of my three sons are Rhodes scholars, I have earned J.D. and M.D. degrees from Emory with top honors. My late first wife was a Pediatric Neurosurgeon who specialized in treating medulloblastomas, my present wife is a practicing Attorney at Law and serves as lead counsel (at age twenty nine) for Eon energy.”

      “Me” = A common, everyday moron. Education does NOT equate to intellectual capability OR common sense, it merely shows you have memorized enough second hand bulls--- to satisfy the “educators”.

      Ya hadda get me started.

      babarishka Reply:

      So, your a lawyer AND a doctor aye (J.D. and M.D. – took a second)? LMAO. You’re basic logic needs a little work, seems to me. Of course, “education does NOT equate to intellectual capability……”

      As a doctor do you refuse to treat jews and blacks? Do you refuse to represent them as an attorney?

      Ya know what I think. I think you’re a pimply faced kid who is barely past the legal drinking age. Why don’t you give up the hate and become a man.

    32. kev Says:

      this whole 1st think is stupid. are you people being serious about whats going on or not.

    33. EarthAngel Says:

      That guy looks like Richie Cunningham! He should be at the tea parties! Give me a BREAK!!! If he’s a setup, he’s just another human sacrifice for the NWO.

      Wow–white jihadists! Alex sure saw that one coming. So when is the false flag going to hit us?

    34. John Galt Says:

      You never know when the false flag attack will be launched – in reality it is probably going to consist of a series of small false flaggers that they use to improve the effectiveness of them.

      I’m taking steps to be as “mobile and at the ready” as possible if you know what I mean. I’ve found some interesting info online about different vectors of attack that a FF may take – things that are easy to overlook even. Here is more info about one example:
      http://linkthe.com/2009/07/30/.....e-lighter/
      Think about it – can u really turn off gps tracking on your cell phone? The answer is actually NO – there are very few that don’t leave GPS tracking on for what they call “911″ service. 911 is run by NWO-based government. DO the math and wake up! I’ll post more as I find links to info about some of the gear I use to wrap up my hardened defenses.

    35. THE WATCHER Says:

      When the Feds were searching Murphy, N.C. (Cherokee County) for their employee (Eric Rudolph), the locals were watching and sabotaging the Feds. Every time the agents went to a laundromat to wash their uniforms, the locals would pour red or orange dye in the washers. After a few weeks, the now paranoid Feds were doing their laundry by hand in the sinks of their motel rooms and they refused to dine in restaurants unless they could see the food being prepared. I couldn’t tell you how many ATV and truck tires the agents lost due to mysterious “sidewall punctures”, but it was definitely in the upper hundreds!

    36. Jumpin Joey Maggs Says:

      What ever happened to Acts 5:29 We must Obey God and not men.

    37. kriss Says:

      he is innocent!!!

      this is very dangerous!!!

      it is precedent case of sentencing innocent man!!

      just like precedent cases in communist Russia!!!

      Julie Reply:

      The Zionists are the same people who we used to call “Bolsheviks”. Communism is actually POLITICAL JUDAISM and they murdered over 20 million Christians in the USSR. While we cry about their 6 million lie and feel sorry for them. Wolves in Sheeps Clothing.

      Jesus Reply:

      Bless you, Julie, for worshipping me, a Jew, who died for your sins before the holocaust, which did happen.

      I will heal your mental illness.

      Judaism will heal you.

      I will heal you.

      Pray to the creator, my father, Julie, pray in hebrew you fool before you burn in hell.

      rafterman56 Reply:

      go to hell ,, fake jesus

      babarishka Reply:

      Don’t you know that Jesus was born to Cleopatra. Just ask Porky………………

      babarishka Reply:

      Stalin received a scholarship to an orthodox seminary at age 16. Trying to rewrite history again like the Watlcher and Bray?

      So much hate to spread, so little time………………………….

      babarishka Reply:

      Jesus was jewish Julie. Yes he was. He celebrated Passover, was born to a jewish woman, told his disciples to follow the law (i.e., Old Testament) and told the Samarian woman she was a dog and that he had only come for the jews. Have you read your bible lately?

      And, Stalin only murdered Christians? I think there were a few jews in there too. Why do I bother…………………….

      john galt Reply:

      http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.ph.....oftware.3F

    38. FF Says:

      http://www.dump.com/2009/08/04.....live-desk/

    39. wind turbines Says:

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    40. jim from FL Says:

      unleash a TSUNAMI of fliers under windshield wipers worldwide…don`t just stand around while people are deceived into taking the vaccine….homemade& handwritten works…don`t be shy , go to the parking lot & start ASAP…

    41. Pete Says:

      Arabs and Whites, both groups hated by the Israelis, are targets for the NWO.

      NO SURPRISE.

      Read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

    42. Guy Hawkes Says:

      There is a story just now out that the iranian government is holding an american – one of our own?!? http://linkthe.com/2009/08/04/.....tajbakhsh/
      If this is true, we must do whatever we can. It sounds liek he is being used as a pawn by the mullahs that run Iran…there is also a secret interview from when the kenyan obama was younger…somebody linked to it in a comment on the site about the american being held by iran

    43. The Fed Reserve Coup Says:

      Secret evidence? The justice system is criminally corupt. Am I in the twighlight zone or what? Since when did our government turned into a soviet style of nazi-fascism.

      Plinth Reply:

      Its been like this for decades, as blacks and minorities can amply attest. You’re just concerned for the first time, as its effects may now impact you and yours.

      john galt Reply:

      http://linkthe.com/2009/07/24/.....ncounters/

    44. Darth Chaos Says:

      This is the unconstitutional Military Commissions Act in full use. Watson, Jones, and Nimmo were correct when they predicted Obama would not repeal the Military Commissions Act. He is now using it against HIS political enemies.

    45. ac Says:

      Leonard Cohen – Everybody Knows
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG5e1oaen-M

    46. The Ghost of Tom Joad Says:

      If he was funneling money to the Mujahadeen, I say good for the FBI, they’re like flies on s--- anyway, when money is involved. He’s not some average American Joe, in my books. White Al-Quada, he isn’t Gomer Pyle. I say too much money goes overseas, through charities and fundraisers, without any input from the American taxpayer. If I wanted my American money, circulated to the hajis right, wrong, or indifferent, I wouldn’t be paying taxes for a bloated defense budget, which is trying to pacify and stabilize their Neolithic asses. I never hear compassionate tidings for Prescott Bush when he was trading with Nazi Germany. It’s like these hikers captured by Iran? What dips--- American goes to Afghanistan, Iraq, or Pakistan, on vacation, you know, just to endanger yourself and active duty service members who are in those countries, or better yet, to collude with potential enemies? That’s go hiking through the political enemies territory, I hear it’s breathtaking. Yeah Mister Fed Sir, that’s not a Terrorist Bombmaker, that’s our activities coordinator for package deal we got on Travelosity. WTF? No sympathy from me.

    47. Iraqi War Vetertan Says:

      Ok, the prosecutor in this case needs to shot between the eyes!! Arrest me f---ers! And the Judge if he allows this.
      Why are people not taking to the streets? oh… we do not think this can happen to us? If it can happen to them it can happen to us!! I encourage pressure from people across the Nation be put upon the Judge, the prosecutor, and any person involved with this illegal gestapo!!

      KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

      Plinth Reply:

      These scenarios also serve to test the waters of public response. If apathy? they up the ante. This has especially been the case since election coup 2000. In a narcoleptic society, the oppressive actions have zoomed up and up and up without resistance, and many times, WITH public approval. The public’s collective yawn concerning Abu Ghraib was a major OK signal to the Fascist Elite. Gitmo will soon officially open here, with subsidiaries.

    48. kimpunkrock Says:

      This secret evidence ploy should be a big red flag. Anytime they use this procedure is evidence that the person they are using it against is nothing but a patsy.

    49. justme Says:

      btw, did you happen to see all those ford explorers and f-150s meeting the same fate?

    50. truck accessories Says:

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    51. kriss Says:

      please show the evidence!!!

      it is unbelievable that thi man is being charged with no evidence!!!

    52. AMUN American UNderground Says:

      every one is a terrorist with this serect stuff i bleive this should be not be alowed for american citizen they should have a regular trial please send letter to white asking that every america wheter chgarged with terrorism or not is alowed a public trial we have to close off there loop holes

    53. wastelandsoldier Says:

      Anytime there is secret evidence.Its most likely completely fake.If we would have caught binladin.We most likely would have tried him with secret evidence.A complete joke.

    54. PrivateSi Says:

      SECRET EVIDENCE IS EVIDENCE OF COVERUP!

    55. john galt Says:

      if that’s what it takes that what it takes.

      i continue to be surprised at the good intel that can be found on the web

      write back if any1 has any other questions or thoghts – this is one of few ways we can safely share info over nwo…

      http://linkthe.com/2009/07/27/.....ge-police/

    56. john galt Says:

      false flag? http://linkthe.com/2009/07/27/.....ge-police/

    57. Bobby Says:

      SECRET EVIDENCE!!! WHAT!!!