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Americans Feel 15.6% Unemployment as Underemployment Surges
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Matthew Benjamin
Bloomberg
April 6, 2009
Bloomberg
April 6, 2009
Joseph Ramelo gave up searching for work in January to return to school, two months after he was laid off as a San Francisco election clerk. Antonio Poe is struggling to get by doing part-time landscaping in Greensboro, North Carolina, after losing his job as an electrician.
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A measure of underemployment that counts those people has almost doubled over the past two years, to 15.6 percent, providing a more complete gauge of the labor market’s deterioration. Along with an historic drop in the percentage of the population who are working, and record numbers of long-term unemployed, the figures point to a permanent shift in employment patterns, said former U.S. Labor Secretary Robert Reich.
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April 6th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Oh my gosh! You mean the government only gives us half of the story as it relates to unemployment? I can’t believe the government would do that! Oh wait…yes I can and in fact, I pretty much expect it!
Teach Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 10:17 am
It’s probably far worse than their own statistics. Either way, he truth must be told. Frustration leads to hostility. Pretty soon, all unemployed people will be categorized with extremist militias, hate groups and unstable gun owners. “Better lock ‘em up.”
the rock Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 10:50 am
i am 50 now, when i was a kid they taught me in school that the russians used propaganda on their population.
when they told me that, i wondered if they do it, then what stops our government from doing it to us???
wokeuplastweek Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Hey you can always get a job building MASS GRAVES. Check out this news media clip of mass graves being dug in Phoenix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VghaSIO4Mc
April 6th, 2009 at 9:23 am
i cor 13 Love is the most excellent way. Join the kingon surrender to the rightoussness of Jesus. He paid it all was pierced on a cross. Help one another where ever you are Jesus is building his kingdom. The Black horse scarsity is releasded on the earth. H John Bouma
RIP George Carlin Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Your religious organizations are just as corrupt as the government, if not more corrupt, use your common sense not irrelevant parables from a book written thousands of years ago by a bunch of opium addicts.
Dave Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 9:37 am
You know,if you Jesus freaks would drop your silly “harry Potter” novel that you call a bible, we’d be better off.
Those of us grounded in reality woulod have some help in the form of actions-not prayers.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:24 am
i cor 13 Love is the most excellent way. Join the kingon surrender to the rightoussness of Jesus. He paid it all was pierced on a cross. Help one another where ever you are Jesus is building his kingdom. The Black horse scarsity is releasded on the earth.
Holy Shit Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Fuck you
jones Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 9:51 am
The article is about unemployement.
Religion is there to keep people divided.
kittygiagirl Reply:
April 7th, 2009 at 2:25 am
Religion has nothing to do with it; it is the devil who divides! The devil is the GOD of the illuminati!
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Surrender??? In Arabic that’s called submission!!! BuLLLshit!!! Pontius Pilate said the most relevant statement in the New testament…”What is Truth???” So pay 10% of your wages for NOTHING!!! God gives a Damn about monkeys with car keys!!! People bitch, snivel and moan about the Fed being the biggest Ponzi scheme ever…when in reality it’s Christianty and you fuckin’ can’t grasp that!!! BTW I don’t want your fuckin’ prayer’s either!!! The human body has a Trillion+ cells…So if you could communicate with a single cell and tell that cell I’ll be your God(As compared to the Trillion+ galaxies) how the fuck do you weigh that??? YOU FUCKIN” CAN’T!!! On that note…”All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
April 6th, 2009 at 9:28 am
“Educate and inform the whole masses of the people, they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty”
Thomas Jefferson
Help ecducate our neighbors and ourselves with the “Wake up Trilogy”
Atlas Shrugged, The creature from Jeckyl Island, and The five thousand year Leap.
There is no time like the present to better understand what we are loosing, what we still have, and what needs to be done to reverse the affects of this disease we call government.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:30 am
How fuckin’ much??? WTF??? Criminals @ the Top!!! And they whine when the Masses are fuckin’ bent!!! Gives a Damn what befalls them!!! GIVES A DAMN!!! All I can say is this…Chill Until Kill Mode is achieved!!! Y’all get it??? Alex is right…it’s fuckin’ going to get ugly!!! Pissed!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
April 6th, 2009 at 9:30 am
also the people who cant file for unemployment, there are many of those too for whatever reason. they dont get counted. I live in oregon, and my area is very bad near 11.6% and thats just what the unemployment office says. imagine what it really is… if they where to factor the real number it would prob. be over 20%, the depression is here! life sucks! its almost over though! I am sure anyone who posts on this site knows, we are gonna get it. the man doesnt like us, cause we are terrorists right. because we want to be informed! we want the TRUTH!
April 6th, 2009 at 9:46 am
The End Is Near.
Glen2Gs Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 11:26 am
NO…..The End Is HERE
I'm the best Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
The end is not near just like it wasn’t when people were saying that 25 years ago. Or 35 years ago. Or 60 years ago.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:57 am
I got a job for all unemployed peoples.Move into your mayor’s office.Offer to serve the coffee.
DEMAND THE SUPPORT OF THE LOCAL POLICE,TO GO ARREST THE CRIMNAL IN WASHINGTON,AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE FEDERAL RESERVE.
April 6th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Double, double, toil and trouble………….
April 6th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Produce something and you will make money. There’s not going to be a whole lot of slack in this new economy for lazy people. The factories are gone folks. We are now a service based economy and you may have to spend some time flicking burgers for a living.
the rock Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 10:53 am
i’ll do that but how do you flick a burger??? it is like flicking a buger.
April 6th, 2009 at 10:48 am
It might help those young men in that picture above to get a haircut and shave before they go to a job interview. They are competing with all of those well groomed women. If all of them would get together, they could probably build their own houses for each other and learn a trade in the process.
April 6th, 2009 at 10:50 am
If it were just that easy dude…..cant produce if theres no one with money. Coem check out whats about to happen at http://www.thegrandawakening.com
I'm the best Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Shut up with that bull shit.
April 6th, 2009 at 10:55 am
In some states the unemployment rate is 15% just for those getting unemployment.
As usual in a democratic society.
The ones who need the help the most are ignored and abused.
There is equally that same number not getting benefits and homeless.
But the biased media only talks about those that are fortunate.
I have seen NO reports in the past year on Homeless statistics.
I used to read homeless stats every month in the 1980’s+ years.
So you, like them, say how do you get the stats on homeless if they have no home?
Basically you can take the amount of foreclosure homes and deduct the new home sales to determine how many really are homeless in America.
That is a starter because many rent and do not own.
Then you take number of vacant rentals to get stats on them.
April 6th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Mike, your forefathers did it with no money. Let’s see…they had no running water, no toilet, no AC, no heat, no health care, no couch, computer, TV, radio, oven. And they had Indians who didn’t want them on there land. They had a 1 shot musket, maybe a wagon and some supplies. But they all helped each other and set up the USA west of the Mississippi. Quit being a loser and get a job.
Philip Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
You failed to mention 1 other thing they did not have…..”a massive bureau-crazy” which will crush you if you were to try to go against the grain. Forget the Indians….they had no problems with the Individual settlers and trappers……it was the government that caused the “Land Grabs” and the turmoil between the tribes and the people. This government has staged 911 terror on the inhabitants of this continent since September 11,1789…LOL
April 6th, 2009 at 11:10 am
move to North Dakota, there’s plenty of jobs here…
April 6th, 2009 at 11:51 am
The public has been conditioned to accept underemployment and part-time employment so the rate will have to be higher to have the effect the elites are hoping for. The public is exceptionally docile and apathetic. The rate will have to go to 30%. . .
April 6th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Phillip, get a job. Maybe study history and become a prof? 911 will get ferreted out in time. The one question I have on the 911 stuff is the image of the pentagon. That just doesn’t look like a big ole jet airliner.
April 6th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
i like fried chicken in gravy with mashed ice cream and cat food. dose anyone like this to? if so, please post your comments.
I'm the best Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
What you like is being a coward loser.
April 6th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I always say…you never know. You never know.
April 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
If the unemployment rate at government figures is 15.6% then the real unemployment rate cannot be any less than 20 – 25%. The US has a population of over 300,000,000 people and that is way too many people. Out of that 300 million you don’t count the seniors or children but people of workable age. Yes that sure is high indeed.
Yesterday I said that Obama and Michelle were very intelligent and that is true and you know why because they know that they are there to bring down the US. The American people are the stupid people who were yelling out “yes we can” when Obama knew very well “no we can’t”.
I am listening to AJ just now and missed an hour of the show since I did some housework. He just said about many people waiting to work at MacDonald’s, in veterenarian centers to clean up dog poop, etc. and have degrees. My daughter works with people with degrees and that means nothing anymore. There are so many educated people and no jobs for them. People will have to learn how to be self employed. People don’t feel bad about doing a job that is way below you – the main thing is that you are working. Yes it sure isn’t enough and no you cannot pay a house on salaries like that. My rent is very high and it even shocked family in Australia. I am living in a kind of a dump and the rent is way too high but I have seen a great deal higher for a great deal less. We sure don’t have good incomes but we have to make do.
Kevin Reply:
April 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
You nailed it. The government has 6 levels of unemployment (C1-C6). The only one the Bureau of Labor Statistics publicizes openly is C3 which is essentially, all unemployed currently on the unemployment rolls. The real unemployment (and closest to how it was measured during the deprssion) is adding C3 and C6. I believe the 15.6% noted in the article would be the C6 number (if I’m reading it correctly); add that to the 8.5% for March that BLS is reporting, and we have a nice depression-era number of 24.1% unemployed…but it’s only a recession of course.
April 6th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
My #1 Rule: Be thankful for what you do have; If you are healthy and homeless, believe me, someone somewhere laying in a hospital be dying of painful liver cancer (very little painkiller given so you don’t become an addict) would give anything to be in your situation.
April 6th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
If you have extra time, do a day labor gig, many times the job will start out crappy, but if the employer likes you because you’re not like “All the other losers”, you just might have found a new career that works for you; and for all of you out of shape – the physical labor will get you in shape and make the ladies take a second look!
April 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
See all of Alex’s videos and a whole lot more at:
http://www.thegrandawakening.com
There is also a war on for your soul….
You’ll be glad you clicked…
April 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I used to have a old high school friend that worked in the state gov’t, employment division, he said that each President and administration since the 80’s S&L boondoogle, has changed the definition of was what constitutes “employment.” Now currently, if you work 3 hours a week, and get paid, you are counted as “employed.” What the gov’t unemployment stats really don’t tell you is the number of UNDER EMPLOYED there are now. I would place a guess at that precentage @ around 30%. Meaning 30% of those currently classified as “employed” do not make enough to meet their monthly obligations. That is a staggering number.
Of course if your unemployment has expired, and one is still unemployed you fall off the books entirely. You are not counted anywhere, unless it is now under “welfare assitance.”
It is a sad day indeed for our country, we are now being run by corrupt politicians, and corrupt corporate leadership.
April 6th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Urgent Message – Important Video re: Fema Camps – A Timeline has been set!
Is this for real?? What do you think?!
http://www.warnthepeople.org/the-open-forum.html
April 6th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
They are getting ready for the “Volunteer Camps”, which will clear out the cities and everyone will “THINK” everyone is happy and working, but in reality it is much more sinister than could ever be imagined.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Aaaawwwwhh, poor americans are out of worky worky. Poor scum bags can’t play anymore.
Don’t you feel bad for them.
They couldn’t give a flying shit that innocent families in Iraq get murdered but they cry like the weak coward babies they are when they don’t have a job.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
I am seeing more and more American flags being flown upside down. Could you imagine a few hunderd thousand all across the country?
April 6th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
hey what happen to all the ” yes we can” i guess bull does walk. funny all the obamanoids have eggs in their face now that they know what a farce he really is, maybe i’ll call him bushatron 3. but hey don’t talk bad about him or you will be call a racist, because that is the only way to defend him right about now since we realize what a dumb ass he really is.
April 6th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
The funny thing about all this is if there a funny side,is that all the minorities that voted B.O. in office will be the ones who go hungrey first. The soup lines will be longest in the inner cities, but what happends when the soup runs out? Remember Katrina, it will be the same thing all over agian in the late great U.S.A…
April 6th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Everyone, here seems to say what he does not like. How about solutions on fixing things for all of us. Anyone, have any positive ideas on what a new system should look like, when this system finally fails. Man, and please no long winded stories on how you want to save ammo, and be part of a crazy ass militia. These militias are all part of the same problem we have now.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:38 am
One Question…. Are all those 20 million illegal workers still employed? If so it is time to remove them so that American citizens can work. Those jobs are not jobs that Americans won’t do. They are jobs that Americans need to survive.
April 7th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Give us the real unemployment numbers why dont you? If the government is saying 15% you can bet your first born son the actual number is at least double. The governments accounting does not include jobless persons who are not receiving unemployment benefits.
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