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  • America’s Effective Unemployment Rate at 18.7%?

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    Steve Clemons
    The Washington Note
    July 2, 2009

    • A d v e r t i s e m e n t
    • economic crisis   Americas Effective Unemployment Rate at 18.7%?
    Each month, I receive from Leo Hindery an update on “America’s effective unemployment rate” which includes not only the official unemployment figures but other data points showing off-the-books unemployed or underemployed people.

    The numbers are staggering and are aggregates of official data. They matter because various Obama administration officials including the President himself started off calling for huge stimulus packages to help generate “jobs, jobs, jobs!”

    But now, I have been hearing more and more from senior Obama economic team members about the jobs they hoped for coming at the very tail end of an economic recovery. Others are talking about a GDP recovery — but not a jobs recovery. They are admitting as well that they underestimated the severity of this recession and its impact on unemployment levels.

    And all this while Goldman Sachs and other financial houses have seen their balance sheets get cleaned up and bonuses surge.

    Hindery writes:

    Here is a June 2009 version of the summary that calculates the Effective Unemployment Rate, which is now 18.70%, and the Effective Number of Unemployed, which is now 30,172,000.

    There are currently 14,729,000 officially unemployed workers, as just announced. However, this figure does not include the combined 15,443,000 workers either (1) in the “labor force reserve” because they have abandoned their job searches (i.e., 4,278,000) or (2) underemployed because they are “part-time of necessity” (i.e., 8,989,000) or “otherwise marginally attached” (i.e., 2,176,000).

    The effective unemployment rate is therefore 18.70%, instead of the official 9.51%.

    Since the start of the recession in December 2007, the number of workers who are officially unemployed has increased by 7,188,000, while almost twice as many workers – 13,290,000 – have become effectively unemployed. And all the while, we should have been creating around 2,250,000 new jobs (i.e., 18 months times 125,000 jobs per month) just to keep up with population growth.

    In June, the number of workers officially unemployed increased 218,000, while the number of workers effectively unemployed actually decreased 35,000.

    It’s important to see the entire picture of America’s jobs profile — no matter how unpleasant.

    I recognize that credit bubble related recoveries are hard to work out and are usually quite slow — with job growth at the back end. This all makes sense — but with Christina Romer out raising expectations again with giddy talk predicting a V-shaped recovery and given the “jobs, jobs, jobs” mantra of President Obama himself — the gap between the job figures expected and the disappointing economic realities generated may be politically consequential.

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    139 Responses to “America’s Effective Unemployment Rate at 18.7%?”

    1. EU-Lex Says:

      You’ll soon be like Eastern-Europe or any 2nd world country.

      Social Viability Reply:

      Sadly this is almost certainly the case.

      During most of the 19th century America had no central bank and no income tax. A superpower was built during that time.

      At the beginning of the 20th century, treasonous politicians that had been employed by international bankers, instituted a central bank and income tax.

      Today’s economic prospects are the result. The next scene in the play: The failure of the US Dollar. The ensuing economic carnage will see the power brokers set up global versions of the disastrous institutions that have wrecked the United States so as to “make sure this never happens again.”

      The American economy has been bled dry by the parasites in the central banks. The parasite has outgrown the host and needs a bigger body to suck upon.

      Don’t fight the system:
      Replace it
      http://socialviability.com/

      jimshores Reply:

      Amen bro. SAY NO TO THE NWO

      Alexis Reply:

      Don’t just say ‘no’ to the nwo, STOP the nwo

      moriah Reply:

      I say we boycott the Alex Jones show until he clarifies or takes back what he said about gay couples adopting kids yesterday. That was something that I would expect from Mike Savage I thought Alex was more of a free thinker and believer in equality than that. I am so disapointed….anyone else? I think this was just a slimy attempt to pander to the religious bigots that tune into his show and/or provide funding, either way it was a disgusting comment that shouldn’t be allowed to slide.

      Tyler Reply:

      Alex is right.

      jc Reply:

      I did not catch what alex said about gays and lesbee,s but if i think what I sense he spoke against it , way to go alex , I do not dis like gay folks , I just do not support the choice they make in sex partners , being gay is all about sex lets just be truth full about that . sex with the same sex.

      1st amendment Reply:

      He shouldn’t have to apologize for anything. Its his right to say what he feels. Regardless of whether or not one agrees/disagrees. If you’re wanting someone to feel sorry for you, you have to come the wrong site. Its his opinion just like you have yours.

      joe Reply:

      haha, score a couple more points for alex jones…

      Jimmy Reply:

      It’s all here…

      Criminal Rothchilds – (10m:17s) yT Video
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulc

      williamwallace Reply:

      We have to be cunning like our ememy we need to get a third party to counter ballance the demondcraps and repocons. and that party has to be the liberty party the one who shows our history prior to 1913 and how economy blossomed. Its evident that our forefathers have discovered how a 3 part system can effectivly be a tie breaker . We have 3 heads of government congress senate and executive. soo how come only 2 partys domonate? we need to get the 2/3 of america that truly belive our elections are a joke and are fixed. We need to have trust worthy people protect what we had our rights. 2 Pices of legislation could stop our destruction. First one is that there should be no reason why legislation can not be fully read and comprehended. How can we as a nation be guiled into a law that isnt fully comprehended, its insanity. Secondly we need our movement to grow and that could be done by word of mouth tell 5 friends reguardless of how they will react. Even if they reject the idea they know in their brain that something is wrong with the world. By giving them the clues to the truth of whats going on they will come arround to the fact that we are being taken over by thugs with suits on. I must admit at first obama had me fooled with his sweet talking I will bring change… but 99% thought he meant a change of bushes policies. Suprise he is CHANGING our countrys status as a free republic governed by the people for the people. By the time we can actualy vote him out with the coruption we may be all dead. So lets stop waiting on some one else.

      Ovidiu Reply:

      Screw you, Eastern Europe is fine.

      jimshores Reply:

      The closest thing we have to communist east Europe type leadership is in the form of Ted Turner(also known as Red Ted); when asked what refugees from the NWO in America should do to keep from starving, he suggested cannibalism. Ovidiu, you are overdue for the treatment we use when dealing with thieves who steal our substance thru government guns. Stick around for a little while and run your mouth at our victory over the NWO party. I would like to meet you in person.

      Change? Reply:

      Anybody that enjoys this sort of “change” is an outright Communist and traitor to America, period.

      Gazza Reply:

      In the French Revolution, there was an economic upturn and when the LET THEM EAT CAKE quote was uttered, it lead to the end of France’s royalty. Obama is living high off the hog in the White house, so the same scenario could repeat itself if people get hungry enough.

      Pyyooowww Reply:

      Sadly, I have to disagree. At our pace, it looks to be almost 3rd world country conditions.

      al Reply:

      Don’t even TRY criticizing Eastern Europe, the banks there require a 50% down payment AND a guaranteed income, plus savings adequate to cover living expenses, etc., in order to obtain a mortgage on a home. In other words, home foreclosures and bank failures are almost unheard of where such sensible lending policies are in effect. I know, I own two homes in Brasov and Targa Mures, Romania and there, the price of a home is climbing, not dropping like a rock. (BTW, Eastern Europe has not been communist since 1989-try to keep up, O.K.?.)

      For God and Country Reply:

      al, first if Romania and Eastern Europe is such a great place to live and so much better than America…don’t let the door hit you on the backside as you leave! Since you are at least trying to compare the standard of living between the US and Eastern Europe let’s be truthful.

      Your giving the impression it’s better there while here it sucks which is not true. In America we,( for the time being ) still have the freedom to move within our country without first getting permission from the governement. The standard income of the adverage American is still one and half times greater than the adverage citizen in Romania.

      Our taxes,( once again at this current time ) are far less than those imposed on people of the EU as well as access to the best medical treatment in the world! At least here if stricken with a terminal illness, your not given pain medication and put it on a long list for treatment given a death sentence if.

      And the best reason I love this country is we have the right to own firearms to keep our Government in check if need be, and that right is about to be used! I wish it didn’t have to be this way, but I believe it cann’t be any other way. And last if you don’t live here…keep to your own buisness as we will keep out of your’s!

      Jeremiah III Reply:

      I was in pursuit of a beautiful Romanian woman a few years back…According to her (a mother of one), if a woman has a baby, she gets 3 YEARS of maternity leave (because the government recognizes the 1st 3 years of life as the most important formative years) and she returns to her job. Here in the US, a woman is lucky to get a month!

    2. Desslok Says:

      Survivors of 2009 will be given jobs as grave diggers and furnace operators. The shovel industry is a wise investment.

      Pedro Gonzales Reply:

      SI SENIOR

      birgit Reply:

      Lime will be in high demand soon, too.
      But of course solient green may BE an option too…

      ICE FARMER Reply:

      Its an “L” shaped recovery everyone! A big long L for loser.

      Trex Reply:

      i got a good giggle out of that one hahaha

      SheepinPeopleClothing Reply:

      funny you mension soilent green…anyone else find striking similarities between Obama’s nationalized health care plan and soilent green or logan’s run?

      FreedomLover Reply:

      Yep.

      “They are admitting as well that they underestimated the severity of this recession and its impact on unemployment levels.”

      CYA BS. They engineered the whole mess, then they are “admitting” something. Yeah, right. Throw the poor dog another meatless, nutrition-empty bone.

      who said that Reply:

      you think there’s no jobs now, cap and trade hasn’t kicked in yet. it’ll be way over then, but never fear obama will save us!!!

      craven LeVay Reply:

      Its made out of PEOPLE PEOPLE love that line

      Im Obama bow to me so I may consume your soul. I got something he can bow and consume.

      CocoLemon Reply:

      I’m already a grave digger. I work at McDonalds.

      Marcus B Reply:

      :(

      prophetgirl Reply:

      My husband just started schooling for law enforcement. He plans to get a job working for Homeland Security or maybe Fema, then we can have our pick of the good Fema camp with the pool and chocolates on our pillows.

      jc Reply:

      if your reading this web site your husband will never get hired by fema or even get a job at law enforcement mostlikey , by the time he gets out of training it will be late in the game and the heavy back ground checks they do will find you out as anti- government , FEMA is very good a screening and back ground checks so is law enforcement , why would you want to work for a bunch of crooks anyway all those orgs. are ran but gobalist anymore anything government i would be cautious to take a job.

      Billy-Bob Reply:

      Yeah, but as a “condition-of-employment” you will be required to take the flu shot…

      jimshores Reply:

      We will probanly be burying the NWO next year. I will work for free.

      craven LeVay Reply:

      lets hope your right

      Brian David Bradley Reply:

      AMEN!

    3. joe Says:

      1. People who get put on the unemployed list are only on it for something like 6 weeks for statistical reasons. 2. if a town had a million jobs, but half of them were employed with two part time jobs and the other half was completely jobless the unemployment rate wouldn’t be captured right in statistics. 3. Why just unemployment? why not also look at % of underemployed and % living below poverty?
      The unemployment rate is about double what they report at any time. This checks out since MSM claims it’s around 9 or 10. Isn’t it ironic that we elected Obama during a recession and he told us that it would be because of HIS spending that we could recover? Now after all his spending things are getting even worse. Isn’t that ironic?

      Giordano Reply:

      Global Currency is here and the IMF is distributing it now!

      http://www.neithercorp.us/nfor.....962.0.html

      Breathing Easy Reply:

      They will not make sense of the numbers as you suggest because it makes them look bad. Thus hurting their chances for re-election. And that is all they care about, their own personal quest for power. They could care less about you, your family, or this country.

      FreedomLover Reply:

      And “underemployment” technically is rising every day as prices increase, but wages stay the same.

      Scalded Frog Reply:

      Where I work, we wish wages stayed the same. First, everyone’s hours were cut by 20%, then their hourly wage was, by 10%.

    4. MARCUS Says:

      shame on all you CIA, NSA, FBI agents that are compiling info on all of us. You are a greater threat to liberty and freedom than a million of your CIA trained “Bin Ladens”. If you truly love your country, if you truly want to protect your country, then look into the mirror and ask yourself, “who is my master”? Who is calling the shots? Who is ordering you to trample the fundamental rights of the very citizens you swore to protect? How far are you willing to go in the name of “safety”? Is it okay to detain citizens with no representation? Is it okay to disarm a populace so they are unable to defend themselves? Why did you get involved in law enforcement in the first place? Was it to defend the LIBERTY of your fellow citizen? Was it because you like to wear a badge? Carry a gun? Is it because you want to be on the “winning side”?. What kind of country are you building for YOUR children, for MY children. Will it be a nation built on fear? A nation where if you say the wrong thing, or peacefully protest against government action you are labled a “terrorist”? Is this the world you want your children to live in? Do you want them to live in a world where we are controlled by fear and by corporate interests? Where we are simply sheep, our only purpose to fill the coffers of international bankers, weapons contractors, and out-dated energy cartels? Shame on all of you who took an oath to defend this country from foreign and DOMESTIC threats that are facilitating the very demise of our once-great Nation. Does the fact that our current Federal government is operating completely outside the law not bother you? Have you ever really read the constitution? How brainwashed are you? Are you so caught up in your law-enforcement sub-culture to realize that you are now treating the very people that you swore to protect as your enemy? Reach inside yourself and shake your soul. You have the power to stand up and make a change. You have the power to say ” I cannot follow this order, I will not follow this directive as it is simply unconstitutional. Or, will you sell your soul for your pension? Will you continue to violate our God-Given RIGHTS of privacy, Liberty, Freedom, and Happiness? Do you not understand that when you operate outside the constitution you are operating as a lawless thug? Do you not understand that when you compromise the constitution in the name of ” safety” that you are buying into a lie? I pray that you will listen to these words. They are the words of a fellow citizen. They are the words of a man that has worked since he was 16 to build a life for himself and his family. They are the words of a man who believes in the power of the constitution and power that it grants its populace. If you really want to protect your country, the real terrorists are not in a sandbox 5,000 miles away. The real terrorists are sitting in Congress. They are sitting in the white house, they own the Federal Reserve, and they are even sitting in your office. They are the people who are taking the constitution and setting it on fire. They are the ones who follow their own agenda’s under the guise of freedom. It is all very simple. Follow the constitution. It is no more complicated than that. If you are asked to perform a task, and that task is not constitutional than you must refuse that order. If you do not, then you have sold your soul and you are in fact commiting treason.

      Reply

      Positive Thinker Reply:

      ^ AMEN

      Banksters love duping the sheep Reply:

      great post..

      BobSam Reply:

      Nicely written Marcus.
      Many public servents are good people. If Martial Law were decalred, many would not participate and some would actively oppose it. Having said that, there is a core of Fascist bloodlusters who would love nothing more than to dawn their jackboots and bash heads.
      Ken Welch has written he thinks about half the Army would go along with a nuclear false flag attack to get the bombing and nuclear attack on Iran off the ground.
      If martial Law is declared or a lesser version of it becomes more overt, they do not need much more of the Armed Forces or even the police for control.
      The major problem for them is the States’ Legislatures and Governors.

      Dee Reply:

      Brilliantly put, Marcus. I couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s like a friend of mine always tells me about life in general and especially about politics, if it’s NOT common sense, it’s NONSENSE!!!
      I’m praying that your post will make a difference and wake up some public servants who have been on the “fence” so to speak. You speak from the heart. Kudos to you and to those who will wake up because of this post. Peace!

      Son of the South Reply:

      Marcus a true patriot!

      cernnunos Reply:

      Well said.

      If unemployment is as high or higher than they say, I would think that the government should be very afraid of its people right now. Now that a large percentage are out of work and have nothing better to occupy their minds with (ie. working all day long, going home stressed and vegging in front of the tv) they have more time to learn about what the government is really up to. To educate themselves through Alex and others as to the state of the nation they are living in. Now is the perfect time to gather and make a stand. With nothing better to do with our unemployed time, why not waste it with purpose and fight back against govt oppression.

      crazycanuck Reply:

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    5. Pedro Gonzales Says:

      TRESS (3RD)

    6. 4w578i Says:

      That’s less than 1 in 5 people out of steady work. No friggin way. Every house on my street is empty, in default, or has extended families living in it.

    7. Mike the Pat Says:

      So it’s not related to this story but people have gotta see this! So it begins folks! Federal agents are going door to door in Texas looking for guns!

      http://smargus.com/2009/07/fed.....un-checks/

      Armed*Serenity}-;='--- Reply:

      Dude read the Houston chronicle article, it is not a door to door search of all homes.
      Its a search of 7,500 guns traced back from Mexico.

      TheDankFrankSays Reply:

      How dare they compete with our military industrial complex!?

      Mike the Pat Reply:

      Just putting it out there for people to read ace.

      TheDankFrankSays Reply:

      thanks.

    8. JustUs Says:

      Lies, damned lies and Statistics

    9. freeyourmind Says:

      mmm, unemployment rate at near Great Depression-like numbers.. Gimme more of that.. aww yeah…

      Who is your savior now Obama supporter robots? In fact if you compare statistics of the number of people during the Great Depression who were unemployed, under-employed etc, vs the number of people in this country now and the number unemployed and under-employed; it’s basically the same. Snap out of your lulled to sleep gov’t induced techno coma folks.

    10. Spencer Pratt IS a MORON Says:

      ALEX just announced that Pratt and Montag would be back on the show again today. Spencer Pratt acted like a jerk on that reality show he and his wife was on. He’s no media darling. And I think a mistake to have him on the show. On the other hand, why not just have Heidi Montag on alone so she could talk about her thougts on the NWO? She’s the “star” if you can call her that. Her husband is a hanger on and is going to be the reason her career completely flops. I think having guests like Spencer Pratt on AJ show cheapens it. As for the unemployment rate, I just heard Fox news radio pitch it as being high at 9.5 % as high as it was in the early 80’s. They lie of course – we are in far worse shape.

      ganjawarrior Reply:

      agreed they were plonkers on the reality show. but

      i did think they interviewed well on alex’s show.

      At the moment i hope any publicity is good publicity.

      I also hope cohens tasteless stunt on Ron paul backfires and brings RP more attention.

      joe Reply:

      I’m making a statement by not seeing Bruno. I heard Cohen sets up Ron Paul. I noticed in Borat he made Alan Keyes, Bob Barr, and the whole Bush family look bad. For this reason, I think Cohen is probably a democrat who is trying to make the right wing look foolish. I’m going to see the movie eventually–but not in theatres. I loved the ali g show and Borat but I will not put money in Cohen’s pocket if he has some kind of agenda to attack the right. By the way, I don’t belong to a party but I really like Dr. Paul. If Cohen wants to make a statement he should punk Obama!

      craven LeVay Reply:

      They will be telling us we are on the rode to recovery when we are all in the camps

    11. WeAreChange Says:

      The real numbers are 23% -28% not 18

      http://www.ubarterexchange.com

      Thanks Alex for all your help with WeAreChange

      jimshores Reply:

      Bronco Bomber’s new slogan is “WE ARE CHAINS”. I want to start a movement called: “WE ARE FIX”.

    12. kkk Says:

      The underemployment (low wages) rate combined w/ the unemployment rate is 70%!!!

      TheDankFrankSays Reply:

      Stop calling me. I only work for peace.

      crazycanuck Reply:

      THe majority are dumb idiots its too late. The apocalypse can only be just around the corner.
      Just watch and pray that you do not enter into the temptation…not that most people already haven’t.

    13. Unite!!! Says:

      The real number is higher! Do you know the definition of Independence?!

      http://www.redpillvsbluepill.weebly.com

    14. roaddog Says:

      It sucks to be a statistic.

      Armed*Serenity}-;='--- Reply:

      Damn, roaddog, you beat me to that one.

      crazycanuck Reply:

      Especially a gov’t statistic. Which may mean going to a camp.

    15. Breathing Easy Says:

      Under government guidelines established under Cheney/Bush, if you work 1 hour per week and are paid for that work, you are grouped together the same as those FULLY employed. Once your unemployment benefits run out, you are not counted anywhere. Unless it is in the welfare figures, which Obama refuses to disclose, along with a reliable number of those under- employed.
      This will be a jobless recovery. Been saying it for a year now.

    16. beyondchange Says:

      too much inflation. It’s hyperinflation that is causing all this mess. too much creating money from thin air! how do you not expect it to go wrong. when we use to use gold as currency, there weren’t unlmited amounts available. Since money is created out of thin air how can you not expect everythign go wrong. everyone knows this! U.s will be just like any third world country in the near future.

      FreedomLover Reply:

      Well, as long as people have their TV sets, NASCAR and beer, who cares? When their power is cut off, then they’ll wake up – maybe.

      crazycanuck Reply:

      Watch the video ‘Fireball’ economic/money system which shows what happens to a society that gets caught up in the ‘euphoria’ of generating economic activity from mostly monetary/financial instruments and becomes less dependent on production. In the video this is named discontinuity and no society that has ever adopted an economic system weighted more to monetary/financial instruments (at the cost of decreased production) maintains sovereign strength.

    17. TheDankFrankSays Says:

      Hello Infowars. Can I have a job? I won’t do evil though. At least that’s my goal.

    18. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      Oil
      Spy
      9/11
      Theft
      Dance
      AIPAC
      Profits
      Goyim
      Opium
      Mossad
      Anthrax
      The FED
      Bankers
      Neocons
      Pipelines
      Lobbyists
      Propaganda

      crazycanuck Reply:

      You forgot Superhighways.

    19. LAMENTELEGIST Says:

      man oh man. all those homeless masses. i see why were pullin back outtta Iraq a little.
      the same clone minded stormtroopers wont think ONCE when dragging you down the street.
      beer and chiks and oil and dough. current money will never reclaim its value until we are able to trade amongst one another without exploitation. that means the blackhouses must be swept clean; the whitehouse, vatican, parliament, ect. and the jesuit “bergers” must end up beside
      jeff skilling or people wealthy(connected) enough to feign their death.

    20. jamie Says:

      I like how the state can give out i.o.u in cali ! I’m going to pay my bills with i.o.u’s

      Married to 1/3 Native American Reply:

      Good luck with that! LOL!

    21. thinkingman Says:

      staggering unemployment figures due to buttheads outsourcing our jobs overseas, and the government not stoping them. In addition the Union is double edged sword protecting jobs and demanding higher wages which in turn outsourced our jobs overseas. So we can blame ourselves on this sinking ship called America.

    22. Ms. Haversham Says:

      Still unemployed. Still looking.

      craven LeVay Reply:

      I hear you and now they are going to make more immigrants legal thanks obama!

    23. still no $2000+ gold Says:

      Sorry people but the movie theaters are still packed, restaurants are busy (2 new ones a couple miles from my house), people still going to best buy, the lakes are busy with boats, traffic still shitty in the morning cus people are going to work, and when I have a day off I can tell you that 20% of my neighbors are not sitting at home.

      Pat D NH Reply:

      It probably has something to do with where you live.

      SMELL THE ROSE'S RANT Reply:

      Where is this place because it don’t look like that in any where in the mid west, east coast or California or Florida, maybe I can’t see it past the tent city’s the forclosed house’s, half empty malls and closed busness’s to the lake where the yuppys have party banners on their boats called for sale signs, tell us where you live we will all move there.

      SteelCityMafia Reply:

      I’m on the east coast, Altoona PA to be exact, not far from Pittsburgh. And it’s pretty scary because nothing has seemed to change, now mind you theres no heavy industry left in Altoona other than the Railroad and the towns full of strip malls, restaraunts, and Drs. offices. Every place is packed, the malls, restaraunts, movie theaters. Unemployment in the county hasn’t moved much, still at roughly 6%. I work at a Mack/Volvo Truck Dealership and we’re booming 12 mechanics, 5 parts guys, 1 outside salesman. No ones buying new trucks but everyones fixing what they have. The oufit I work for has 10 Mack/Volvo Dealerships throughout PA and from what I hear the whole company is busy. I pray everyday all this turns around for everyone and things start looking up, but I believe as long as Obomba and his cronies are chopping away at the working man and the middle class it won’t be long till my area gets hit with what alot of areas are dealing with. I wish every one of you and your families the best.

      Breathng Easy Reply:

      Steel City:
      Then you are doing much better than most. I used to deal with alot of truck dealers. The days of the individual dealers are pretty much gone. They have been bought out or forced out by the big multi unit dealers. I know one dealership in the south, that has 18 bays and 3 mechancis left, down from 20+, 2 parts guys down from 8 or so. They dont even buy parts, they strip them off a brand new truck sitting in the lot. Or they will just order the 1 part needed at the time.
      Other dealers parts are doing OK, so they say, but no new or even used truck sales at all.
      Much depends on where you are. But be thankful you have a job and are not in NEW truck sales trying to make a living. Or thankfully you aren’t driving one trying to make a living. I know Swift recently had 42 lease drivers turn in their keys and walk away in one day. Lack of freight and/or the rates are so low they can’t make any money. The big box stores are refusing to pay anywhere near a decent rate to haul their imported Chinese crap. In todays world, the big box stores rule. The bigger will only get bigger, the individual business owners are on the way out.

      glp116 Reply:

      Nice to see a local.. Im in Bellefonte PA

      Keep up the good Fight

      crazycanuck Reply:

      Funny how a guy who works for a mafia isn’t having any problems.

      MTY Reply:

      Here is Chicago it’s like that. There is still a lot of buz going on here.

      ganjawarrior Reply:

      maybe in your tiny life bubble thats the case.

      craven LeVay Reply:

      all the world seems to live in reality bubbles

      MTY Reply:

      Shut up. You don’t know me. Chicago is the third largest city in the U.S. It shouldn’t surprise you this. May be you don’t even know your own country.

      crazycanuck Reply:

      Isn’t Chicago another mafia haven, like isn’t that where your crooked president is from?

      Breathing Easy Reply:

      Yeah, It may depend on where you live and the type of job you have. I k now here in Texas, there are jobs, but for minimum wage. I know a guy that put in a ad for a $8.00 per hour job, part time only, he had over 100 phones calls in just the first hour. A truck driver friend, hauling for a major carrier, had to quit, no freight, he wasnt even clearing $300 a week being on the road 3-4 weeks at a time living out of his truck and away from his family. 2 friends in construction over 20 years each, phones haven’t rung in 2 months, there is no work. My business of 16 years is dead. Maybe 1 or 2 calls a month down from 20-25 a year ago. I am looking for work also, nothing there.
      If you are 50+ you have most likely have seen your last good paycheck. Depending on your specialty. Of the estimated 10 MILLION jobs lost in the last 18 months, most, over 50% will probably never return. They will be outsourced to a 3rd world country.
      Best buy recently reported dismal earnings for the last quarter. 2 restaurants close to me recently closed down. The one restaurant that only caters to the rich is still open selling 8 oz. filet mignons for $40.00. ala carte. You want a salad,extra, drink, thats extra too. Packed on the weekends, empty during the week.
      Just depends on whose ox is being gored.

    24. SteelCityMafia Says:

      The mainstream media is reporting the unemployment rate will be roughly at 10% over the next few months. They have to pull these figures outta their ass.

      Breathing Easy Reply:

      The numbers are pulled from some politicians ass then stuffed in a media types ass for public dissemination.

      crazycanuck Reply:

      It is hard to understand what the truth is when you are fed crap.

    25. Xaos Says:

      This is a game, the whole collapse was part of a larger plan. They are working toward a goal. This has been in the works for a long time and I bet the outcome of it will not be good for the majority of us.

    26. SMELL THE ROSE'S RANT Says:

      To put it politely, California, has the highest unemployment in the country and it’s because illegal aliens cannot collect unemployment benefit’s legally so they are not fully counted as unemployed. Well it’s time now it’s time to watch that oppressive, corrupt fascistic communist police state and prison industrial complex fall streight down into it’s own foot print one story at a time, painfully slow at first we will hear the twisting metal and busting welds the tivits poping the glass cracking and the screems of panic the people fleeing it’s destuction then waam. after the smoke and dust clear’s and when they clear away the finacialy ruined and the homeless, they will blame every one but themselves. The bureaucracy is totaly anti business, anti freedom. anti Christ, It’s the model for the rest of the country.

      The State, county and municipalities are parasitical money whores and thieve’s and its unlawful confiscatory tax’s scheme’s. It has the most corrupt court system in the nation, The law enforcement is there only to feed the machine and murder and torture people for sport both in and out of prison,

      The police in California as well as the degenerate news media are making sport with the police helicopter’s during car chase’s known as fox and hound sport taking pleasure in the misery of others. It’s a special interest, welfare and illegal alien and a gang ridden cesspool that turned California into a cheep labor slave state ghetto. The Holly Wood reprobate dumb down mentality trickled into the schools and our children have been corrupted and(homo)sexualized while they are teaching alien communist special interest idealism’s,

      Let the Titanic sink in all it’s glory as the politicians polish the brass as its sinks to the bottom, for it’s only a facade, like an old crack whore who’s teeth looking like Cap’t Crunch and the other half of her grille is missing and her make up is smeared and half washed off and all the canker sores, needle marks and bruises are showing and the smell her un bathed carcass and the smell of rot is sickening.
      We now see California for what it is, and now just wait for the illegal aliens’ cheep labor slave’s and welfare rats turn on their masters when they cut of the cash register. Americans are coming out of the political swamp covered head to toe with Government leaches and parasites sucking and sucking while injecting their poisons until we are drained and the maggots and the dogs finish off are existence. It’s time to wake up and wipe off the word slave from your fore heads.

      The bureaucracy is anti business, anti freedom. The State, county and municipalities are parasitical money whores and thieve’s and its unlawful confiscatory tax’s scheme’s. It has the most corrupt court system in the nation, The law enforcement is there only to feed the machine and murder and torture people for sport both in and out of prison,

      The police in California as well as the degenerate news media are making sport with the police and new’s helicopter’s during car chase’s, known as fox and hound sport taking evil sadistic pleasure from the misery of others. California is a special interest, welfare and illegal alien and a gang ridden cesspool that turned has turned California into a cheep labor slave state ghetto. The Holly Wood reprobate dumb down mentality trickled into the schools and our children have been corrupted and (homo) sexualized while they are teaching alien communist special interest idealism’s,

      Let the Titanic sink in all it’s glory as the politicians polish the brass as its sinks to the bottom, for it’s only a facade, like an nasty old crack whore that sleeps under a dumpster, her teeth are looking like Cap’t Crunch cereal and the other half of her grille is missing and her make up is smeared and half washed off and all the canker sores, needle marks and bruises are now showing and her un-bathed carcass and the smell of rot is sickening. but the whore still thinks she’s beautiful and wants all the money and to be taken care of so she can feed her habits and spend it on her junky fiends and frivolous activity’s until she’s destitute again.

      We now see California for what it is, and now just wait for the illegal aliens’ cheep labor slave’s and welfare rats turn on their masters when they cut of the cash register.

      Americans are coming out of the political swamp covered head to toe with Government leaches and parasites sucking and sucking while injecting their poisons until we are drained and the maggots and the dogs finish off are existance. It’s time to wake up and wipe off the word slave from your fore heads.

    27. Zippy Says:

      and if you live in Michigan its probably about 40-50% for full time employment

    28. deathbyrevolt Says:

      Yes I wait till California’s unemployment rate hits 35 percent within 2 years. This will hopefully start the armed revolt against the U.S. Government. Then we can send our military to kill all the Bilderberger groups members and all of their families. I will take a really go size out break to ignite the revolt. Say 10 to 20 thousand attack the local Mexican embassy, and kill all the local and Nationally elected officials who sold us out. It will happen. Then after this 100’s of thousands will pile on. I know I set up a law suit against an employer in which I got 840 people together. For three years they just complained in small group conversations and silence worried about there job. But once the pay check started to be really short we went for 10 to 840 inside 2 months.

      MTY Reply:

      Why the Mexican embassies? what about the other embassies?

    29. Arab obama Says:

      tou will eat soylent green, and like it

      Cap't Fema Reply:

      soilent brown, like the comedy, I figured our how they are going to use those Tupperware caskets. Your trip on the train to the F.E.M.A camp you get the old shower routeen, the nice stainless doors seal up behind that’s when you and your clothe are separated and you get a nice hot soapy shower and some nice gas to go with it, after wards they wash you down with hair remover, mop up stack you in a conveyor rack with the others where you head is sawed off so when they throw your body in the grinder to render you into paste, they have to take the head off for production speed with a high speed rotary blade to make sure no fillings will tear up the blades, because it would cause costly down time, then they take he heads and pull the filled teeth out in a separate operation, that’s why you had your cursory medical exam at the possessing induction center and why the put a yellow r.f.i.d marker on your head after they extracts what they need and they will crush and render the head later. You see you can put a lot more then three people in a tub. This operation is all computer operated and is a a clean Green operation, later you will be processed into fish food or fertilizer back to nature and a green future. Like the Bible says in the last days they will behead the saints. (with others of dissenter of coarse). Become part of the environment the train leaves in one hour, Alllll Aborrrrd.

    30. SteelCityMafia Says:

      yes im sure they will go to other embassies…don’t get all flustered because he singled out the greasers embassy.

    31. Glen Garry Says:

      The End Is Near.

      jimshores Reply:

      THE END IS HERE bro. unless we repent and say no to the nwo

    32. Mr.Geltschmidt Says:

      Alex makes up bad news for you trolls to eat it like popcorn .Alex fizynish fonfer k’nocker gedaingst …. :)

    33. ! Says:

      Recession
      Posted: July, 02, 2009

      Stewart,

      Is this economic recession staged? Please tell. Thanks
      Stewart’s Reply: Haven’t you been reading my site?? Like, duh! :) )

      http://www.expansions.com/QA_Comments.cfm

    34. NatureBoy Says:

      um.. theres no new jobs and obama isnt going to make any new ones available because this economic depression is all done by design (ON PURPOSE!!!). obama is just following the nwo’s orders like the black-faced muslim terrorist judas fraud puppet he is..duh

      they want to kill the middle class, take away homes, microchip them, enslave them to goverment, then kill you when your done being useful..and thats why David Icke is correct when he says their Reptilian humanoid shape-shifters, because 100% human beings wouldnt and couldnt be doing this

      davidicke.com

    35. thereelstory Says:

      i really enjoy the people that the show presents. there is very informative information on this program. what disappoints me is that so many people truly believe that alex is a man of principles and sacrificing for the greater good and sacrificing himself financially.
      1. before alex was william cooper. and unlike alex HE PREDICTED 911. alex rode his coattails. how dare alex say he had the acumen to decipher the media and call that prediction.
      2. several years back alex was invited to this christians home in texas who was having problems with the police wanting to raid his ranch. he interviewed this man because this man TRUSTED alex. alex allegedly then turned around and sold him down the river to ABC news( the interview) for like a pathetic few hundred dollars. ALEX is motivated by your money people, dont doubt his intentions!
      3. alex would truly gain many peoples trust if he was willing to publish the way the money from the moneybomb was spent. if his intentions are altruistic, dont you think it would just be natural for him to want to LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW THEIR MONEY WAS SPENT??
      4. i heard alex’s rant today about chastising infowarstv.com for potentially taking money away from ALEX”S businesses. check out infowarstv.com. he presents it alot better than i.
      people please dont think that i know or am affiliated with the above website in any way. I AM NOT. i live in maine and have been listening to alex for about a year. i just want to say that the intentions of alex imo is $$$ first and alex loves to hype things up very often. i have caught alex over exaggerating so so often and while he is on point about alot of things, i believe he is greedy and i am very suspect of his true intentions.

      peace to all

    36. Madmagic Says:

      Most people have no choice but to want to believe in false hope.

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    38. sydwayz Says:

      What is the militia? The term “militia” consists of two parts: the organized militia and the unorganized militia. According to the organic Maine Constitution and backed by the United States Code, the organized militia is the standing military force in the state (the “State Guard”) while the unorganized militia (which is commonly called the militia) consists of all other males between the ages of 17 and 45 (or 65 if they have prior military service). The militia was established for the purpose of defending the state (a sovereign nation) and the United States of America (a union of nations) from all enemies “foreign and domestic” based upon principles of community self defense established hundreds of years before the nation was formed. However, while the organized militia was tasked with the defenses of the states, our forefathers, having just fought their own government, did not place their entire trust in the government or a standing army to protect them but reserved the right and the means to protect themselves – thus the unorganized militia. The militia was and is a defensive body set up so that its members can take care of normal peace by internal lawless elements, or government usurpation of the rights and power of the people guaranteed by the Constitution, there is a group of people that owe their allegiance to no one except God and their fellow Americans who desire to remain free.

      The mission and purpose of the militia have not changed. What has changed is the status of the organized militia. The “State Guard” with the duty and obligation of protecting the state is now under federal jurisdiction (the “National Guard”) thereby obligating it only to the federal government making the unorganized militia the only constitutional force available for the defense of the state.

      crazycanuck Reply:

      You mean the defense of the constitution because your federal gov’t does not care diddly squat about America’s constituition.

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    42. Joanie Says:

      My brother and son have been out of work for a long time, just no jobs to be had.

    43. SGMalachy Says:

      Why is the administration so suprised about these statistics? They engineered this damn recession themselves.

      Money is only a way of exchanging labour for financial recognition. I wish the old days of bartering came back.

    44. Incubus Says:

      The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can come to terms with it & find an answer.

      America no longer exists.

      Got that?

      America is dead, gone. America is no longer America. This is the husk of America, with parasites inside.

      Once you’re capable of seeing that, you’ll understand why the justice system, or anything like it will ever be a tool to ‘fight’ the ‘powers that be’.

      Incubus Reply:

      never*

    45. Son of the South Says:

      Here is something for the number crunchers to think about, if close to twenty percent of the population is out of work, what do they have time to do? They think about how they have been screwed over by the banks, and by the government. The banks because they signed their name to that piece of paper called a contract and now their adjustable mortgage rate went from that 5% loan to a 12% loan.

      They think of the government because to the South, the border has not been secured, and thousand of Mexicans and Central Americans cross the border. They bring nothing with them but cheap labor, and disease. Your children cannot even get a summer time job now at McDonalds because their skin is not brown enough. If you think I am talking about just the white kid, I am talking about the black kid too.

      People think of the government because congress and senate passes TRILLION DOLLAR bills to stimulate the economy, but nearly 70 Million of our citizens are out of work. Does this sound like the Hope and Change that was promised to the 52% of populists who voted for Obamanism.

      People continue to talk of taking back the country by force. You need to think of this. During the American Revolution, less than 10% of the population resisted the tyrannical rule of King George. There were only 2,500,000 people in North America at that time. Of that number, over 500,000 were black slaves or working as freemen in the Northern cities, (that’s 20% of the population). The Continental Army only fielded 24,000 troops to fight the British, Hessians, and other mercenaries that King George sent. What is forgotten here is that the number of the citizen militia numbered around 40,000 in both the North and Southern fronts of the war. Britain was fighting across the sea, and away from supply. The Colonials were fighting at home, knew the lay of their land and knew why they were fighting.

      Today, either you have 10% of the people on the left or right that are hard liners, and the other 80% that just want to be left alone and raise their children. Well that 10% is 35 million people, 20% percent is 70 million people. Now if there are 80 million people that are gun owners prior to the Hope and Change administration of Sotero/Biden, and since the last election enough armament and ammunition has flown off the shelves to supply both the Chinese and Indian armies. What do you think this administration is expecting.

      I can tell you this right now, if you have 70 million people out of work and they rise up in the streets of America, no law enforcement agency, no National Guard, none of our extended military can put down such an insurrection. The only way that such an action of the American people CAN be defeated is to detonate a nuclear bomb in those large cities where the insurrection is occurring. When the American citizens see a pillar of smoke from one of the twenty largest cities in American, they will all tuck tail and run back to their homes like a beat down dog.

      You can continue to talk this nonsense of using force, but as a former police officer now retired I can tell you this, I always used greater force than what I was met with. This is how the government will respond to such actions. Mark my word. Happy 4th of July!

      freeyourmind Reply:

      Obama’s “Hope” and “Change” is quickly becoming “I HOPE you can spare some CHANGE for food”.

    46. mike Says:

      “The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from great courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to to apathy; from apathy to dependance; from dependancy back into bondage”
      Sir Alex Fraser Tyler 1799

      Tomorrow our nation will be 233 years old!!!!
      Does anyone doubt that we are currently in transition from apathy to dependancy?

      Dee Reply:

      Thank you Mike, for sharing this quote. Sadly, history is repeating itself and most people don’t realize it. I’m going to e-mail this to everybody on my list. It’s definitely food for thought. Sadly, most American’s have lost their critical thinking skills.

    47. revolution begins Says:

      why dont we just do citizens arrest? we have the right to do them, as long as the person or persons are 100% guilty and we all know they are guilty.. we should go down to DC and serve citizens arrest. only 2 options we have is overthrowing the government (violent or non violent), or citizens arrest. we must act now to restore america!!!!!!!!

    48. crazycanuck Says:

      Lies, they know they are liars and they could care less, they are controllers to the core. CONTROL FREAKS CONTROL FREAKS CONTROL FREAKS CONTROL FREAKS CONTROL FREAKS

    49. daveed Says:

      The State of California is currently issuing IOU’s to all it’s Creditors and Municipal Employees and Pensioners in lieu of actual monetary pay checks. In the light of this FISCAL INSANITY however the State still has some REAL money socked away to toss at supporting the Staples Center to facilitate a memorial service for MJ the drug addicted freak boylover. IF THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN AND YOUR BLOOD BOIL THEN NOTHING WILL!!! Truly the State of Ca is now a State of Bread-and-Circuses. UTTER COMPLETE TOTAL INSANITY !!

    50. Bobbipin Says:

      In Washington DC, the answer to the unemployment is tens of millions of more illegals streaming into the country.

      Along with the Federal Reserve creating more money out of thin air of course!

    51. pbm Says:

      I work six or seven days a week, and hate my job- but I’m so glad I have one.

    52. MORPHEUS Says:

      So I say not to you reading this site but to you monitoring it, do these numbers lie. You men that watch us on here must at some point realize this will affect you. Gain back your soul. Help humanity. I know you know who I am, and I know you not by name but by essence. Stand for something right.

    53. lamento Says:

      I’m afraid there is NO hope for America and her future. What makes a country unoque and dynamic are it’s people. Americans today are sheeple and a pathetic lot. All the outrages that we tolerated and /or ignored during the Bush years would be cause for riots and even a revolution in any country on earth! Current example: Iran. People willing to die to protest a stolen election! What the hell did we do in 2000 and 2004? Nothing!
      America, your days are numbered.

    54. rofl Says:

      what, the obama team not being honest or transparent? naaaw who would have guessed?!?!?

    55. Sharkman Says:

      Son of the South you are totally full of shit and as a retired pig you will be brought to justice you paracite.Replace fear with anger people and show the world what happens in America to a corrupt

    56. Jerry C Says:

      The book of Daniel & Revelation refer to a peace agreement with Israel for 7 years ruled by the anti-Christ. Jesus referred to the last 3 1/2 years as Great Tribulation. Research the ENPI with Israel that began 01/01/07 that could make the GT starting next year! Brethren, we ARE in the last days but nothing is going to compare to the middle of 2010…and it only gets worse. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Nothing else will save you. God bless.