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September 3, 2008
As Amy Goodman and Sharif Abdel Kouddous of Democracy Now explain, the Secret Service worked with the cops in Minnesota to arrest journalists. Goodman’s press pass was ripped from her neck by the SS and Goodman, producer Nicole Salazar, and were physically absued by the police, even though they are accredited journalists with credenbtials and RNC passes.
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September 3rd, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Standup And get Ready for RIOTCORE
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:45 pm
JUST A FEW FACTS TO POINT!!!
1-McCain Won
2-this is the way the big ML will come except ith more torture
3-there are still sheeples out there
4-i also noticed sme subliminal messages at the RNC
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
All I can say is I REALLY HOPE AND PRAY THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL FILE CRIMINAL COMPLAINTS AGAINST ALL OF THE OFFENDING OFFICERS!!! Otherwise these mindless war-drones who are subverting the Constitution and violating their oaths of office by ignoring your Constitutionally guaranteed rights will simply continue to advance the brutal police State.
David Myrland who has several websites including yourremedyisinthelaw.com has some very effective ways of dealing with public servants who violate their oath of office,
Stand up to this evil and resist these illegal and immoral tactics!
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Dumb down America, “I am just being there for my kids and teaching them the right way.” That’s not the answer people!!! Stop! WE are the boss!! Stop, you will see. You could stop it now. But you won’t because they don’t own you yet. Or so you think. Take your life back, for your kids.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Just to REITERATE folks- you cannot successfully fight these illegal tactics in their arena (i.e. their courts) Without filing CRIMINAL COMPLAINTS against the offenders and forcing the issue- you will not accomplish anything!!! & they will all laugh at your sad stories! We must take this very seriously and respond as if we also mean business against these criminals!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Welcome to Nazi Germany..!!! All american style…
Horrible..
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 pm
when will you people learn, that peacefull demonstration will do absolutely nothing
they have no intention of listening to your concearns
they are total disinterested in what you have to say
the truth of the situation is:
you do what we tell you to
or we will punish you
its as simple as that
the sooner you realise this, the sooner you can take action that will have effect
force is the only thing they understand
start beating the crap out of these people
turn up tooled up
they do, why the hell shouldnt you ?
are you all fucking stupid ????
only when these people start to get mobbed and beaten to the ground
in the same fasion that you are being mobbed and beaten to the ground
will you have any effect on any policy or outcome
you can peacfully demonstrate till the fucking cows come home and it will do absolutely nothing
FIGHT FORCE WITH FORCE
IT IS THE ONLY WAY
REALISE THIS.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 pm
these guys need to start showing up dead,
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:23 pm
you people need to take a look at how the people riot in France and Germany on the streets
and they always get their way with government!!!
because the governments know they havnt got a hope in hell of controlling these people if they choose to escalate the rioting further
get on youtube and watch some of the riots in france and germany
these people aint scared of the police or government.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 pm
North American activism has been regulated, and everyone has been brainwashed into believing that only peaceful protest is permissable. So long as they get to go home feeling warm inside and thinking they made a difference, they don’t care.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 pm
The Ford Foundation funds Democracy Now. They’ve also been known to fund provacateurs. These people that are so disillusioned they wait till a place is full of police to destroy things in their rage against injustice. Some are police as was seen in Canada lastyear. Designed to keep the meek disgruntled scared and on their couches. I wouldn’tubt Goodman staged this to gain some sympathy and continue to hide the gatekeeper that she is. i’m in Houston and have continued to be cut off for trying to talk about things that really matter. 9/11 (Cut Off) They endorse illegal immigration and say amnesty is a good thing. Watch Immigration Gumballs on Youtube tell me uncontrolled amnesty is a good thing. KPFT, Pacifica, Democracy Now beg for money during their funding drives, or the doors will close and we won’t have a say….They never tell you that Amy Goodman pulls down as much as mainstream media personalities or that they are funded by the very people trying desperately to kill this country economically and remove national sovereignty.
Call them sometime and try to talk about Ron Paul, or 9/11 and see what you find..They are liars and theives.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 pm
uhm…I miss Jason Bumass…this new guy is…don’t mean to be rude, but kinda seems clueless.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 pm
This is pretty disturbing. I do not see people in uniform upholding the law but abusing the law with
pre-rehearsed thuggish behavior. I do not wish to spend our tax dollars to support any form of law enforcement (including FBI, CIA, Secret Service or “rent- a -mercenary “) that disregards the law or takes orders from those trying to redefine law to suit their own political agenda.
This attack on the press must be nipped in the bud. I was just astounded. To make matters worse,
“behaved citizens” are being formally arrested and given a record to enter them into a data base. This appears to be an abuse of power to discourage descent and legitimize “police state behavior”. I do not wish to have my tax dollars spent irresponsibly on salaries, training or equipment for any
enforcement personnel who can not behave responsibly and adhere to the laws which protect our civil liberties.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest
“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded, ‘If there be any remedy at all … it is a remedy never provided for by human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.
As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable, and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Since so many people want to know what to do, when is the gunfighting going to start, or just claim what they would do if such and such a situation ever happened to them or one of their own, maybe all those capable should find out where Alex Jones, Ron Paul, Jessie Ventura, and many of the other patriots who Alex has interviewed are and follow them around all day long giving them body guard services.
Now, obviously the enemy will eventually start something that will start a shoot out, but the defense will obviously be a glorious one that will go down in history as the first shot of the real revolution, the day when the battle cry started from the masses, not just the few. The enemy of course has the high tech weapondry and the tanks and aircraft, but it will be an organized effort on the part of the ones who are serious and capable of doing something for the first time as the question constantly arises about everyone organizing somehow to do something useful for the cause of stopping this police state we are now in.
Ones like Alex, Dr. Paul, and Jessie Ventura are alone in a sense. They are lone wolves. They are loners. They are the ones who are presently out on the front line. So why not start an organized effort yourselves to be with those loners on the front line while you can? Go help those on the front line already, bodily help that is, not just writing here or buying some of their books. Physically they have no protection, even if they have private body guards. Those who are capable of doing what I just suggested now become publically involved and the front liners are the ones who need it most giving them the backing they need for their very lives that they do not have presently. I am sure that someone here can now expand on this to make it work. Yes?
Rhonda
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
September 4th, 2008 at 12:11 am
50 years from now the American people will be well into their 45 year of a once a year celebration of the populace in mass pissing on the graves of this mindless goons and their criminal leaders!
September 4th, 2008 at 12:28 am
WORDS ARE USELESS WHEN THEY ONLY FALL UPON DEAF EARS
ONLY THROUGH ACTION
WILL THE PEOPLES WILL BE NOTICED
BY DEAF EARS AND BLIND EYES
September 4th, 2008 at 12:31 am
I advocate taking the govenrment by the balls so to speak by having millions of americans deliberately not file a tax return. If enough people dont file, they will have no way of enforcing IRS laws (which in fact are unconstitutional).
September 4th, 2008 at 12:38 am
COPS = CRIMINALS
ORGANIZED CRIME = US GOVERNMENT
INALIENABLE RIGHTS = AMENDMENT FODDER
GUN CONTROL = ENSLAVEMENT
WAKE UP PEOPLE! THIS GOVERNMENT ABUSE HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH!
September 4th, 2008 at 12:45 am
They should change the name of the show from Democracy Now to Tyranny Now or Police State Now
September 4th, 2008 at 12:47 am
THESE ARE THE FUKING TERRORISTS
GOD DAMNIT
BULL SHIT
EVERY MOTHA FUKA AT THE RNC I SAY FUK YOU CUZ I YEARN TO BE FREE.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:56 am
Peace. Peace keeping. Peace officers foster peace thru peaceful means.
None of these police are demonstrating that they are Peace officers.
The ONLY way to deal with these thugs is thru strength and peaceful civil disobedience. Take a lesson from Gandhi and we can win against the brain washed peace officers that come from us, our society.
It will indeed take strong people to make a stand knowing full well they may lose their life to beat back tyranny. This can ONLY be accomplished with a firm resolve and unshakable faith in our constitution.
It is EASY to pick up a gun and call yourself a hero… it is MUCH more courageous to stand toe to toe with the enemy of peace and HOLD THAT LINE PEACEFULLY.
That my fellow citizens is exactly what it will take to restore the REPUBLIC!
DESTROYING THE REPUBLIC IS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BUY IN TO! DON’T TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT!
911 Was an inside job.
Stand Toe to Toe, Eye to Eye with these thugs and declare that the Constitution and the Republic MUST BE RESTORED.
Restore the Rpublic! Uphold the Constitution! PEACE to America NO STORM TROOPERS.
Peace, Love and Revolution!
September 4th, 2008 at 12:58 am
If anyone believes these sadistic words come from God, then it might serve prudence to stay away from such people. For anyone who holds to such beliefs may very well do the same to others.
Godly Mass Murder
“And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.” (I Samuel 6:19)
Here we have just one more instance of God performing mass murder, a sadistic killer far worse than Hitler, Attila the Hun or Pol Pot.
These verses should insult the intelligence of any person who thinks that God possesses a loving nature.
One should not dismiss the Old Testament’s repeated demand for the vilest atrocities as something peculiar to the early Hebrews. Even today, our most atrocious wars, terrorism and hate crimes occur around the world based on ancient religious beliefs, many of them coming directly from verses in the Old and New Testament.
Kill All Unbelievers
“And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God…” (Deuteronomy 13: 5)
“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;” (Deuteronomy 13: 6)
“Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.” (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)
“Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.” (Deuteronomy 13:15)
These severe laws commanded the members of the Hebrew religion to murder even their own children if they did not worship Yahweh (God).
These Bible words can justify, to a fanatical fundamentalist believer, the killing of friends or family simply because they may fail to change their beliefs.
Why anyone today would accept these words, much less allow them to exist in a sacred book goes against the nature of any tolerant and loving people.
Kill Man, Woman, Infant
“Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” (I Samuel 15:2-3)
No matter how one can justify possible crimes from adults, suckling infants have no means of acting out crimes. And what evil against God could the animals have possibly performed? Only an evil entity could kill innocent infants and animals, no matter what their parents and owners may have done.
King David’s Holocaust
“And he brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws, and under harrows of iron, and under the axes of iron, and made them pass through the brickkiln: and thus did he unto all the cities of the children of Ammon. So David and all the people returned unto Jerusalem.” (II Samuel 12:31)
From the sacred scripts from the Bible we learn that the great King David carried out atrocities that rivaled the cruel acts from the holocaust of World War II. If we condemn the Nazi’s for their atrocities, why should we not do the same for David’s bloodthirsty actions?
Moses’ Mass Murder
“Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:16-18)
Moses commands the murder of approximately 100,000 young males and, roughly, 68,000 helpless women.
Consider women and children of your own family: No matter how sick they may lay, or how they may go against a religion, how would you feel if a man named Moses, claiming to speak for God, sent men into your house and hacked to pieces the women and male children? Also, how would you react if they spotted a female child, dragged her off with them to do as they please with her? Note that these innocent virgins served for their own sexual pleasures.
Midian, the land of the Midianites, did not reside in an area regarded as a natural enemy of Israel for centuries, and in fact lay hundreds of miles away from the Israelite encampment. Moses, himself, had lived in Midian as fugitive after committing his first murder. In short, Midian presented no threat to God’s “Chosen People.”
Nail His Head!
“Then Jael Heber’s wife took a nail of the tent, and took an hammer in her hand, and went softly unto him, and smote the nail into his temples, and fastened it into the ground: for he was fast asleep and weary. So he died.” (Judges 4:21)
Comment
In verse 16 the Israelites surprise Sisera’s army and that “there was not a man left,” except Sisera who deserts his army and flees, a deed punishable by court martial today. Sisera then goes to the tent of Jael, the wife of Heber. Jael takes him in, hides him under a blanket, gives him milk to quench his thirst, and promises to stand guard at the door while he sleeps. Then Jael kills Sisera!
We see no telling of the slightest shame, but rather, Jael proudly flaunts her kill. The author of this piece of Scripture makes it clear that the passage represents a deed, not only as grand and heroic but also consistent with the will of God (see Judges 4:23).
Raping And Killing
“Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.” (Isaiah 13:15-16)
Comment
These verses foretold the deaths of the people of Babylon. Fortunately not everyone in Babylon (now modern Iraq) fell by the sword or had their children dashed to pieces or their wives raped (just another instance of errors in the Bible). How some people who believe in an infallible Bible can accept these verses as God inspired, or morally uplifting can only give evidence to the blinding nature of belief. For if we believe these words as God inspired, then the killing of children and the raping of wives must also come as an inspiration from the Supreme Being.
Shed The Blood
“And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man’s brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made the man.” (Genesis 9:5-6)
Some anti-abortionists have used these words to justify the killing of abortionists. As such, these words helped inspire Michael Griffin to kill Doctor David Gunn on March 10, 1993.
Consider that the Bible never directly addresses abortion, much the less the condemnation of it. On the contrary, God himself has condoned, not only miscarriages, but has personally called for the killing of suckling infants and the bashing of children against the rocks.
(See Numbers 5:26-27, I Samuel 15:2-3, and Psalm 137:9)
Slaughter Of Innocents
“And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.” (Deuteronomy 2:34)
“And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves.” (Deuteronomy 3:6-7)
Such words helped give justification to mediaeval Crusaders who slaughtered men, women and children along their way to Jerusalem and stole the spoils of the cities. Even today, many Christian military men use Scripture to justify their actions. If any soldier harbors doubt about killing his fellow humans, he need only consult a military chaplain or read the Bible to calm their worries. Even George Bush (the First), with Billy Graham beside him, proclaimed the Gulf War as “moral.” George Bush (the Second) continued in his father’s steps by killing thousands of Iraqi civilians in the Iraqi war. Such moral wars result in thousands of “utterly destroyed” innocent men, women and children.;
(For a few more examples [but not all] see also Deuteronomy 3:3, 7:2, 20:16-17 , 25:19; Joshua 6:21, 8:26, 10-28-40; Numbers 31:17-18; I Samuel 15:3; Isaiah 13:16; and Hosea 13:16)
Slay Old And Young
“And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and woman: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.” (Ezekiel 9:5-6)
These words, commanded by God, orders the slaying of not only women and the old, but of little children. These accounts of cold-blooded massacres occurred simply because people refused to accept Yahweh. These phrases should give warning to anyone who knows a person who believes every word in the Bible.
For what sense of moral reasoning should we allow ourselves to admire such Biblical verses?
The Survivors
“Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.” (Revelation 7:3-4)
“And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.” (Revelation 9:3-4)
“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty [and] four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.” (Revelation 14:1)
“…the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.” (Revelation 14:3-4)
Here we have the great future destruction where billions of people will die. Only 144,000 virgin Jews with a protective mark on their heads will survive. (I suppose the ‘Jews for Jesus’ cult would serve as the leading candidates.)
How many believers realize that this means the death of everyone on earth but a few virgin Jews? And this includes the destruction of all Christians! (Of course the alleged Jesus, a virgin Jew, who claimed only a few would enter heaven would agree with this).
Note: Of course faithful Christians cannot accept the 144,000 figure so they must either become atheists, ignore these verses, reject Revelation as just dream nonsense, or try to revise its meaning to something they can accept. Some try to get creative by claiming that Rev. 7:-9,”…a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues…,” means an unlimited number will enter heaven. Not so. The “all” in this verse speaks about all the tribes of Israel (the Jews) scattered around the nations of the world. The verse comes right after listing the tribes in Rev. 7:1-8. And man doesn’t name the number but rather the angel who speaks in John’s dream. And John reports the number, three times, in chapters 7 and 14, as shown above. Sorry Christians but all of you will have to suffer with all the atheists and unbelievers in God’s hell. Welcome to the club!
Beware of a future “Armageddon” caused by religious people. Belief in self-fulfilling prophesies creates self-fulfilling acts.
Utter Destruction, 1
“And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.” (Joshua 6:21)
These “God inspired” words give not a hint of mercy to innocent slaughtered women, children or the old.
After Moses and Aaron died, Joshua assumed command and the Israelites entered Jericho. Note that in the same siege, “all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the Lord: they shall come into the treasury of the Lord” (Joshua 6:19)
In the battle of Ai, the Bible tells that twelve thousand, the whole population of Ai, got slaughtered. (Josh. 8:25)
Note that many invaders throughout history have used such words as justification for wars and looting.
Utter Destruction, 2
“Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.” (Deuteronomy 12:2-3)
The Lord, here commands the destruction of all the places where people worship other gods. There appears not a shred of religious tolerance here!
“I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own– a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism.”
–Albert Einstein
(For other examples of utter destructions, see Numbers 21:2; Deuteronomy 3:6-7, 7:2, 13:15, 20:17, Judges 21:11, II Chronicles 20:23; I Kings 20-42; Isaiah 11:15, 15:3, 9, 18; Jeremiah 12:17, 25-9, 50;21, 26, 51:3; Daniel 11;44; Amos 9:8 )
Washing Feet In Blood
“The righteous shall rejoice when he sees the vengeance. He shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.” (Psalms 58:10)
How many “good” Christians realize that such a verse appears in the Bible? Of course most preachers keep these bloodthirsty words away from their congregations, and the few Christians who do come across these verses, re-interpret them for their own purposes, not realizing the impact these words can have on others. Unfortunately the few that take these verses literally can justify atrocities against anyone who they wish to define as “wicked.”
September 4th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Major Civil Disobedience…. Stop Paying Taxes period, city, state, federal. If 20% to 25% of us refuse to pay…. this will all stop overnite or so it will seem.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:09 am
the same cop that tackled the Nicole Salazar, is caught on film whacking the female trying to escape (and then turns to run) on the head.
he is obviously an overaggressive pig.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:20 am
THESE FUCKERS ARE TRAITORS TO OUR REPUBLIC. THE FOUNDERS WOULD OF HAD THESE TERRORISTS TAR AND FEATHERED OR POSSIBLY HUNG. THESE OFFICERS HAVE NO SOULS. THEY HAVE BETRAYED THEIR OWN HEARTS AND HAVE BECOME MINDLESS SLAVES OF A MACHINE THAT HAS ONLY ONE PURPOSE…PROTECTING EVIL. WAR IS COMING AND WE SHOULD NOT FEAR DEATH BECAUSE WE ARE FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM. IF WE GIVE UP AND BECOME AS THEY ARE THEN WE ARE ALREADY DEAD.
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!
September 4th, 2008 at 1:20 am
I hope to God that Amy and her crew file criminal assault charges as Amariah stated and get this criminal chief of nazies fired and locked up as well along with every single nazie pig that was a part of this violent attack on all the reporters. My God, if these nazies can do this to the press just think of what they can and will do to the average citizen.
You need to go after the bastards that gave the orders for this madness to take place right up to where it started including this demented puppet fraud chief of St Paul nazie police.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:22 am
RIGHT ON Mr_Collusion!
September 4th, 2008 at 1:32 am
What is the explanation the police have given for the arrest actions? Since when can an agency get away with abusing the press without reason? Please keep us posted as these lawsuits move through the system. Hopefully some heads will be fired and the reporters compensated for the mistreatment.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:33 am
Notice to all who post here….
If your contribution is longer than one paragraph then statistics prove that NO ONE will read it.
People will simply scroll past and look for something that is easier to digest.
If you wish to reach people then may I suggest that you keep your comments short and to the point.
If you wish to pontificate then perhaps you should take all of that energy and do something more beneficial to us all….such as submit your contribution to your local newspaper, or better still become politically active and work for meaningful change.
Thank You
September 4th, 2008 at 1:33 am
What happened to Amy, Nicole, and Sharif, are just portends of things to come. Whether or not this was a drill or a warning, it certainly looks like what happened to lawyers in Pakistan when marshal law was declared there. Regardless of what you think of Amy Goodman, her words are true. The press is the eyes and ears of a free “democracy” (I would add a “republic”). Under the Constitution, which George Bush so underhandedly aborted, there should be freedom of the press, not to mention freedom of speech and freedom to assemble. I applaud Amy Goodman and I hope she brings this incident to all of her collegues including Hannity and colmbes and Bill O’ reilly. I’d like to see him put her on his stupid “pin-head list”, that bloody pin-head.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:39 am
I don’t understand how someone can get arrested when police have all that gear on. I think running is called for. Just run away from them, getting arrested seems like the more dangerous decision.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:47 am
Democracy Now is just a bunch of commie leftist causing problems as usual
September 4th, 2008 at 2:12 am
viva la resitance of the constitusion defenders
September 4th, 2008 at 2:49 am
I dont understand why the administers of this tyranny are never put under the spotlight and all you continually see is the symptom but never the perpetraitor .. Media outlets should be questioning the authorities and find out who is rubber stamping this tyranny… then we put their nazi pic mugs home address and phone number up for all america to see. I’m tired of these invisible enemies.. always addressing the symptoms of tyranny but never the administers of it. It’s like the NWO .. THE NEW WORLD ORDER.. who?? we know we have the rockefellars at the top but who are the Low level administraitors?? These are the people that need to be exposed to the public. David rockefellar isnt gonna order a bunch of cops to arrest everybody but someone at a very low level will these are the people that need exposure.
September 4th, 2008 at 2:57 am
Visualize the new world order as a car ,david rockefellar sits in the passenger seat the rothschilds are driving the NWO automobile. The police chief is the car battery and the individual spark plugs are the low level cops. Now you can take one cop out and the NWOMOBILE wont be running on all cylinders but it will still be running.. But if you take out the battery … The NWO MOBILE WONT START.. So exposing the police chief and lower level commanding officers that gave the go ahead to the low level cops are the people that need to be exposed by US and The media. People will think twice before they go giving orders that violate our constitutional rights after getting 10,000 calls from angry americans.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:03 am
As David Icke has quoted:
“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face — forever.” – George Orwell (real name: Eric Blair).
This is completely deplorable. Notice how Democracy Now doesn’t talk about WHY this happened. They discuss all what happened but NOT WHY this happened. WHY are they arresting Press for no reason? Why are they storming down the street like Storm Troopers?
They don’t even discuss SUING THE POLICE for wrongful arrest, assault, etc!!! They’re just going to get bitchslapped, accosted, thrown in jail for no reason… get RAPED while they’re at it.. and then, just talk about it. No mention of WHY it was wrong or that they are going to SUE them!! Nope… they’re all a bunch of pussies at Democracy Now. Just take it up the ass and ask for seconds and never question why.
September 4th, 2008 at 3:55 am
Just as many of you, I consider myself a true and ardent conservative. I have been against the empire building of the Neocon-Trotskyite hijackers from the beginning of their takeover. I attended the Sept. 13, 2007 Anti-war protest in Washington, D.C. with Veterans for Peace where over 100,000 people marched and there was little or no media coverage in the U.S.
I’ve continued to believe that liberty and freedom could be salvaged. I concur that we are living in an all out police state run by criminal thugs.
After seeing the incidence leading up to the arrests to journalists from Associated Press, Democracy Now!, and the NY Post coupled with the police raids on Anti-War groups in St. Paul, MN, I am finally convinced that freedom and liberty is dead in America. I’m now past denial and am grieving.
Mainstream media is silent and any attention related to a national conversation is only enabling the federal, criminal enterprise by giving them credence.
The entire spectrum of politically aware individuals have taken a stance to honor those in uniform. As a person who served in the U.S. Army years ago, I was very pleased about this. Now I feel our service members, police officers and low ranking officials are nothing more than willing dupes in this charade about “protecting our freedoms”. It has become a sick joke for me now.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:08 am
How shall I put this?
It’s hard to blame the Police, solely, when the Blackwater reinforcements arrive!
September 4th, 2008 at 4:46 am
This is just a sign of worse to come, police state and the NWO. People, they are trying their hardest to scare americans into doing nothing. I am just not that scared, in fact it prepares me more to stop it. All it takes is for the good men of this country to be well armed and join a constitutional militia. We out number them tremendously! All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing! Stop being too scared to do anything and get hooked up. All the big militias have communication with each other, when they say it is time to take action there will be too many of us for them to stop.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:54 am
Every last one of those officers is a coward pussy.
Takes a real big man to wear full body armor and then go manhandle unarmed INNOCENT women.
Must suck for them having to look in the mirror every day. All big and grown up, into what? A steaming pile of shit. Worthless cowards.
I bet their mothers are so proud.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:57 am
This $%$$%% is an ongoing worsening thing, it is clear what their agenda is and I do not think a pen or a court will stop it. The federal judges are already criminals. Stop talking about it and do something about it. Do just what your founding fathers told you to do and Ask around about your local legal constitutional militias. Do not worry that their might be an informant in the group, if you do you will do just what they want you to do which is nothing! Trust me, there is no army large enough to take the armed masses unless they use chemicals or nukes and even then I would not negotiate with terrorists. When the time comes to defend you will know and keep some distance between your men, you become harder to stop that way.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:57 am
Words are great, but what we really need is some serious ACTION! ACTION! ACTION! We have been deceived for far too long…since at least 1913 when the evil illegal Federal Reserve bank was created…on up to the inside job of 911…and we really should consider Isreal’s role regarding numerous false flag operations. Alex needs to seriously address the zionist issues related to the creation of monopoly money via zionist jews and their roles related to wars they instigate from behind the scenes via deception. Go for it Alex Jones, make that connection! Those zionists have had their way at the expense of others for far too long…many have been injured by deceitful zionist transgressions! We need ACTION that includes educating the sleeping masses. I, too, was once asleep and believed the lies of 911 via popular media, but I woke up! I am a veteran of the United States Marines, and I firmly believe in our US Constitution–let’s not continue ignoring what is happening right before us cuz innocent lives are at stake! Take ACTION…wake your family, friends, and even strangers on the street to the truth…we need a critical mass, and the good news is: it is happening!
September 4th, 2008 at 4:57 am
Guess my last post has too many “key” words that triggered some bullshit tag.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:59 am
a certain NWA song springs to mind
September 4th, 2008 at 5:05 am
rick if your gonna start a militia your all gonna need army training and assault weapons
September 4th, 2008 at 5:10 am
F..C. T.e POLICE
September 4th, 2008 at 5:15 am
Where are we going?
September 4th, 2008 at 5:17 am
“According to Goodman and Democracy Now, the Secret Service worked with the police in arresting journalists”. !?
September 4th, 2008 at 5:25 am
This incident was nothing more then a scare tatic to deter people
from going out to these events. I pray it backfires and has the opposite
effect . Get out there and get active people. Quit being fuckin shy , quit
spending 4-5 hours a day on the computer ( you know who you are), quit
buying their shit from Wally World, and for god sake quit critizing and nit
picking at other people’s beliefs and actions. Trust me I am no fan of Amy
Goodman in fact i disrupted and heckled her on the subject of 911 truth
about a year and a half ago here in Melbourne Florida, BUT she is on our side
and has done alot to wake people up to the ways of the NWO. Focus that energy
ST. Elsewhere Bitches !!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 5:25 am
I second this quote from Rick:-
“This is just a sign of worse to come, police state and the NWO. People, they are trying their hardest to scare americans into doing nothing. I am just not that scared, in fact it prepares me more to stop it. All it takes is for the good men of this country to be well armed and join a constitutional militia. We out number them tremendously! All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing! Stop being too scared to do anything and get hooked up. All the big militias have communication with each other, when they say it is time to take action there will be too many of us for them to stop”.
September 4th, 2008 at 5:27 am
They don’t care about the people or the press. They are mindless thugs.
September 4th, 2008 at 5:52 am
They don’t give there names or talk much because some are probably not from this country and don’t speak English. Welcome to the NWO. These cops need an education on preservation of rights of the citizens. The people who sent the goon squads out and arrested people before they even had a chance to protest need to go behind bars for many years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 5:54 am
Here is a solution for every one. It’s called Honor & Duty to what’s good & just in this land.
I have a pledge that say’s it all,(at lest from my perspective) & May God give us strength & wisdom in the coming day’s with guidance and courage to secure freedom back from darkness!
LINE IN THE SAND
To all, I say LOVE is the true power and that the OATH taken by so many is a pledge out of care for what is good and right in this land we call America!
I myself do not wish for a fight and that I have called, emailed, pleaded, challenged to all concerned of their Responsibility and DUTY to the Oath for which they have pledged, from Police, Politicians,Media, Soldiers , friends, family and all that are in positions to make a positive effect. Still the ones that are in positions of power will not do THE RIGHT THING or even the job we elected them to, by protecting our sovereign rights as citizens of this land & by promise of their oath to office,leaving us citizens with the last resort to ever come closer.
I am just a man that loves his country and sadly I must now start preparing to defend this land I care so much about; not from some invading Foreign force but my very own ELECTED GOVERNMENT. This is a fight NONE of us should want but to all that have taken the Oath, REMEMBER this!!
Alot of good Men & Women have paid with their lives to keep this land free from the like’s of what we now face and remember that the Man or Woman standing next to you could very well hold true to the Oath that they have taken and so go ahead and commit acts of unconstitutional aggression against the citizens and you just might get a little surprise from the REAL MEN & WOMEN that serve our land and so to the one’s of honor, I SALUTE you and to the ones that dishonor their Oath, I pity you for when you hold your child, think about the world you are giving to that souls’ future and what you may soon be dying for, like I probably will, (at least my death will be with honor)!
(WILL YOURS)
Sighed,
A VET who cares
September 4th, 2008 at 6:43 am
…Three Cheers for Amy and her clan…
You guys deserve a trophy! (and some band-aids)
And also, thank you for presenting this in a way that does not make me seething with anger.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:09 am
Fox news has the audacity to villainize Alex Jones for his Michelle Malkin confrontration when there are police officers who brutalize a female reporter like this!
Anyone have some thoughts on the RNC vice president nomination speech last night? Watching on MSNBC, I thought that Sarah Palin behaved like a whore of Babylon! She fear mongered about Al Queda and then made a propaganda poster child of her son leaving for Iraq and the oil bankers’ dirty war. I wanna hear about the 9-11 inside job! I hope she repents. She made some good points about elitists covering up Alaskin oil reserves and I like her pro-life stand. See an example of illuminati supressed energy technology at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGg0ATfoBgo.
It seems like politicians tell lies to cover up a web of more lies! I’m planning to vote for Chuck Baldwin.
September 4th, 2008 at 7:09 am
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September 4th, 2008 at 7:17 am
THESE COCKROACHES NEED SUED INTO SKIDROW! IF SOMETHING IS NOT DONE ABOUT THESE HEAPS OF SHIT LEGALLY, THEY WILL NEED ENGAGED WITH OVERWELMING FORCE TO TURN ANYTHING AROUND FROM THIS POINT ON. THESE IMBREAD MAGGOTS NEED PERSONALLY SUED FOR EVERYTHING THEY HAVE STOLEN FORM THE SHEEPLE, AND RIGHT NOW!
September 4th, 2008 at 8:11 am
WE NO LONGER HAVE A FREE PRESS. THESE ACTIONS TAKEN ON PEOPLE WITH PRESS CREDENTIALS AND CAMERAS IS PROOF POSITIVE. IT WILL BACKFIRE ON THE SS AND POLICE BECAUSE THESE ARE CLASSIC INTIMIDATION TACTICS. PEOPLE HAVE TO COME OUT IN GREATER NUMBERS AND SWARM A LOCATION.
WHAT HAPPENED TO AMY GOODMAN AND THE REST IS THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENS TO REPORTERS IN COMMUNIST CHINA WHEN THEY ATTEMPT TO REPORT THE TRUTH. FORGET AMERIKA AS IT WAS AND RECOGNIZE AMERIKA FOR WHAT IT IS. THIS IS THE NEW WORLD ORDER TELLING AMERICANS TO GO FUCK THEMSELVES RANDOMLY FOR HAVING BROKEN NO LAWS OR DOING NOTHING.
SUE THEM RELENTLESSLY. THERE WAS NOTHING GOING ON IN THE XCEL CENTER THAT WARRANTED THIS KIND OF TREATMENT OF JOURNALISTS AND CITIZENS.
September 4th, 2008 at 8:21 am
i’d like to know the thoughts of the reporter shareef describes as saying, “but i’m a reporter for a republican paper” before being slammed to the ground. and why couldnt malkin be there?
September 4th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Now I think everyone should know the answer to “Will the US police or military kill US citizens if ordered to”….I see no indication that they wont.
Look at these videos, they love doing this.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Cops will use any and every excuse to arrest and get potential “threats” (those not in complete compliance with the plans of the NWO) into the system’s database…fingerprinted, photo’d and on the list of those to be watched.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:36 am
OH man that pisses me off!!! All the freedom of speech is given to those political scumbags that rob this country blind of its freedom of speech. Whose watching these people huh? who does anything about it huh? So basicly shut up or get your ass kicked and unless your elite some how thats whats going to happen. If the press really gave a damn about each other they would ban together and make a big noise about this, however, MSM doesnt consider alternative and independant news people a part of them and dont give a shit because they have the air waves to spread their agenda so why should they care. People like Democracy Now is one of the few left that are the good guys, how long until there are none left?
Now if one of those cops got their freedom of speech taken away, they would come out swinging, shooten, and tazing!!!!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Here we have to listen on the news, radio, republican convention about Sarah Palin and her pregnant daughter and hockey mom baraccuda bullshit. You know what I want to hear, I want to hear one of these damn canadates talk about our freedom of speech and how we have the right to protest!!!!! Do you think Obama would be on the stage blabbing away if Martin Luther King didnt fight for his rights? Then he turns around and shits on him by not giving us our freedom of speech at his convention. How hard is it to let it be known that the Constitution of USA will be upheld at his convention, and protesters will have their right to freedom of speech. How many more votes would he get if he said it? a lot more……….and so would John McSame.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Welcome to the police state. It’s only going to get worse because our deranged government is using the Chinese model of oppression as the new way to control protesters and the press. Isn’t it lovely, isn’t it wonderful. Evil government pigs training muscle headed monkey drones whom can’t think for themselves to attack any one in sight whom may be a threat to tyranny. What a wonderful life it’s going to be. Come back my Lord. Hurry,hurry,hurry, hurry,hurry!!!!!!!
September 4th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
Hey Infowarriors!
Please take the time to email the St. Paul Mayor (Coleman) and all members of the city council to protest the police actions at the RNC. Here is what I sent the Mayor:
http://www.stpaul.gov/Directory.asp?did=80
Dear Mayor of St. Paul:
You should be ashamed of yourself and your police! I have seen videos of the police brutality against innocent journalists who were brutally beaten, bloodied, and illegally arrested in your city! These journalists were wearing PRESS CREDENTIALS! You and the Chief both lied about the circumstances and numerous videotapes will prove that you lied!
I hope you are prepared for a massive lawsuit. Meanwhile, I and every other sane American will boycott St. Paul which is now reminiscent of Hitler’s fascist Germany. You need to be tried for both brutality and false arrest as well as impeached for failing to defend the U.S. Constitution!
September 4th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
The world is changing at an accelerating pace.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes??
thankyou Democracy Now, we are behind you….
September 4th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Every person who attends a protest such as this should be practicing their 2nd Amendment rights; ownership and the ability to carry and weild any weapon we choose against tyrants in government. This includes any type of firearm. It is Constitutional to carry a rifle or shotgun – and either of these would be more effective than most handguns. If all of the protesters in St. Paul were properly armed, they easily could have killed every “riot” officer there and prevented the unlawful assaults and arrests. The vast majority of police and military forces consist of mindless robot-like goons who can carry out orders, but cannot think well on their own ( I know – I had to work with them for 4 years). It would be easy for intelligent individuals to band together and wage guerilla warfare against them. Unfortunately, most civilians are no smarter than their governing oppressors, and therefore will not be helpful in performing this task. I suggest that you carry an effective weapon at all times, be alert and prepared to fight the New World Order in a moment’s notice, and teach others how to do the same.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
THE ONLY GOOD COP (PIG) IS A DEAD ONE, THE ONLY GOOD SECRET SERVICE AGENT (STAZI S/S) IS A DEAD ONE, HITLER WOULD BE PROUD OF THE S/S IN THIS COUNTRY!
September 4th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
They’re starting to eat each other.
September 4th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
TO #71 >>> Good one
Folks??? > Need to LISTEN UP QUICK >>>YOU MUST BUY WEAPONS AND CARRY THEM AT ALL TIMES!!!!
BEAR MACE, VIDEO CAMERA”S, STUN GUN”S ETC…
Protect yourself or die…
September 4th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
The United States Government and the lower agencies state and local have now declared war on the American citizenry. This is now war! They started it, they pushed for it…I say we give it to them. Your life and your rights are now in the toilet. When they arrest press and treat press like this…THIS IS COMMUNISM!!!!!!! When freedom of the press gets violated by local, state, or federal government, that is a decleration of war on the citizens of that country…PERIOD!!!>
September 5th, 2008 at 3:06 am
Do not fall into their trap… The police are being manipulated just like most of us and those at the top WANT us to get violent. Believe me, they are ready for that kind of revolution. If we have mass riots they will round us up like cattle and do away with us. They are HOPING for this, don’t buy into it. That is what “Info” wars is all about. It is a battle of information. If everyone were truly informed and understood the big picture then the machine would not run. There would be no one left to oil it…
September 5th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Isn’t Amy funded by the Rockefeller Foundation? Isn’t she the one who wouldn’t talk about building 7? So why is she being promoted on Alex’s website?
If you like to live in fear, and think aggression is the only way, then please think again, because you’re being setup for a big fall. This stirring of the pot is just a simple way to get you mad, which makes you irrational, which makes you do something dumb, like bring guns to a protest as Matt suggested. They are just waiting for that moment, when some dumb ass blows it for all.
Educate, read, learn the law. Use their legal tools against them. Our rights are inherit, they can not take them from us, and if you already think they have, then you’ve already lost.
September 5th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
The Fascists and their Gestapo are here, citizens. We are no longer free and our constitutional republic is dying.
September 5th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
The whole key to fighting the cops is JURY NULLIFICATION. Just ignore the facts and vote not
guilty when the citizen kills or injures the cops. It only takes 1 out of 12 to hang the jury, and
after 2 or at most 3 trials they’ll give up and the citizen will walk free. However, I know there are
a lot of people out there who, although they may hate the police, find it hard to take this position.
So, for you people who believe in giving the police justice, I suggest you read the post #55 from
the infowars article “lord Nagin: Go Outside, Go to Jail” The most important part was the following:
(We the people)”Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer’s
life if necessary.” Plummer v. Stae, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme
Court of the U.S. in case: John Bad Elk v. U.S. 177, U.S 529.
What’s important here is that since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of the citizens, it applies
to all states. That’s the key. Thanks #55 (Lord Nagin article). Sorry if I plagiarized
September 6th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Sorry, Matt, but if you carried ANY weapon you would very likely be DEAD. I agree it’s time for the Declaration to be enforced but obviously the current elite only want ‘regime change’ to affect people other than themselves. Any weapon held by a supposed press official would immediately be interpreted as an assassination attempt against the new Reich here. Gandhi-style nonviolence is probably more effective since it carries absolute innocence. The current monsters in power have happily spread depleted uranium over entire countries, with its danger encompassing as long as 10 half-lives, meaning a period of FORTY-FIVE BILLION YEARS. Yes, 10 times the age of the planet and solar system themselves (unless you believe the Earth is only 5,000 years old because you deleted your own brain).
September 6th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Watch out for AGENTS PROVOCATEUR on sites like this: agents SUPPORTING violence that will increase the gov’ts ability to prosecute via the USA-PATRIOT Act etc. This happened with paid informants at the RNC in MN, and the whole thing was infiltrated for over a year. Any use of violence at this point, with the press being totally co-opted in favor of the Reich, would only work against you. Could you prove you are innocent if every major paper and TV news broadcast said you were a TERRORIST? You could easily disappear to Gitmo so fast nobody would ever see you again anyway. Right now. WE ARE THE USSR. I don’t know if Amy knows about bldg 7 but she certainly is on our side. It’s only necessary to understand the oppression in order to combat it, not support every detail. Maybe HER family was threatened etc… like Hunter Thompson’s forced ’suicide’, another guy recently ‘killed himself’ over 9/11… he was being evicted and had nothing but a room and a cat, but things about it didn’t seem right- but Thompson said in a video that ‘they’ had warned him to not go ahead with his book that would have proved 9/11 was an inside job. He didn’t back down but now he was ’suicided’ and we will never see his book.
Don’t bet the cops are easy to beat. The military (and now military-trained cops) are very-well trained to remove their normal unwillingness to kill. Alex Jones has info about new rail cars with shackles, detention rail centers for ‘disappearing’ huge numbers to our GULAG, and he tells of giant stadium-sized prisons in desolate areas built by Halliburton or Kellogg-Brown-Root. We know plenty about USSR-style oppression but haven’t used it to its maximum YET… it’s on the way though. Guaranteed. How come the DNC had zero violence yet all protests were seemingly allowed? I hate to say it but there’s only 1 candidate who offeres a final chance back to democracy. Hint: it’s not Mr. “I don’t know how many houses I have” or Ms. “Global warming is not caused by humans, teach creationism to kids, drill the shit out of Alaska” … one chance. And the GOP is going to cheat even more than in 2000 and 2004. If McCain looks like he’s going to lose, will the Shrub step down? Or will there be another “new Pearl Harbor” 9/11 event with nukes here so Bush can be “president for life” and clamp down his martial law? Thus the final end of our experiment in democracy. We’re just too damned close to the edge.