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Another Neocon Demands Mass Amnesia
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Christopher Manion
The LRC Blog
October 30, 2008
VD Hanson longs to be teaching Thucydides again, and please forget his idiotic, murderous bombast of the past eight years. Just throw that down the Memory Hole, please. He didn’t really mean it.
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For today’s dismal state of the union, VD Blames Americans First. While he was cruising the high seas on luxury liners hectoring National Review readers, why, Americans spent themselves into debt! How dare they! Forget Bush’s three-trillion-dollar war. Why, “We, the people, ran up credit cards, borrowed for overpriced houses and drove gas-guzzling cars fueled by high-priced imported fuel.” (He apparently does not refer to the hundreds of taxpayer billions spent on fuel imported into Iraq to power the war, of course).
I know the neocons always blame everybody else, but this is ridiculous.
Say — by the way, what ever happened to their war?
War? What war?”
Professor Hanson would appreciate it if all those “defeatists,” “navel-gazers,” “traitors,” “anti-Semites,” and “radical leftists” who opposed his little war would just not mention it any more.
Hey, man, Iraq is just like Chicago! You know, Obama territory! The Cubs, the Bears, Grant Park … why, Baghdad’s just like Middle America:
“The war in Iraq is no longer even a war in a traditional sense. Four times as many Americans were murdered just in the city of Chicago at peace in July than all those Americans who were killed in Iraq at war in the same period. The cost of deploying American troops in Iraq is nearing the expense to station them elsewhere abroad. As Iraqis continue to take over additional provinces, the American presence will further shrink.”
Now, students, let’s discuss the Melian Dialogue, shall we?
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October 30th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
But—but—but—a bunch of the fault of the economic problems, DOES lay at our feet .
October 30th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
The deployment of troops in harmsway costs money as well. You’ll have to supply the troops and so on. What is this guy thinking? Since the invasion in 2003 march 20, the appropriate bills’ for the iraq war has exceeded 2 trillion. Or just send another billion to Georgia.
October 30th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Rhetoric !! It’s like this: I say something I would like to see happen, and if you are big enough fool to believe there is some sort of validity in what I say, I will get to see it !!
You bought too much crap last year and now I have the right to get away with filling the world up with crap na-na-na-na-na-na.
I can do that because all of these ideas were described to me by another undergrad student I knew way-back-when and we can’t find him to blame it on because he lives under a bridge somewhere.
Give the guy under the bridge the $700 Billion bailout money, let him overcome his conscience about having thought up so many bad ideas and passed them along to his successful classmates; there’s a better world somewhere !
October 30th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
At whose feet?
We built our house for cash, we don’t use credit cards and never go into debt.
We vote for candidates who have a record of fiscal responsibility, (where
possible) and walk everywhere we can. When you say “OUR” put the blame
on the lying bankers, realtors and stool pigeon politicians. We happen to
believe on good authority that its impossible to hold a fair honest election
in this country. If you want to blame the poor fools who fell for the pie-in-
the-sky line of BS just remember, they were pushed pretty hard by
the criminals in the system. This was all planned, you know.
October 30th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
IT IS AMAZING HOW MANY NEOCONS HAVE SPENT MOST OF THEIR LIVES STUDYING FOREIGN POLICY AND YET CONSISTENTLY MAKE DISASTROUS DECISIONS . THEY ARE COMPLETELY DISCREDITED AND SHOULD BE IGNORED. READ “THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE” AND “INFOWARS” FOR TRUE FOREIGN POLICY INFORMATION.
October 30th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Where do they grow this mentally retarded Neocons anyway? Do they have an underground dungeon at the University of Chicago where they lock up freshmen for years, waterboard and beat them with paddles day after day until they pledge allegiance to Karl Marx and Leo Strauss?
October 30th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Declaring war on Iraq, and invading Iraq without due process other than LIES and to continue such acts with terrorist-like aggressions is a reflection of what the US has degraded to–a bunch of ignorant fools unwilling to fight for their own constitutional rights! Having said that, try to maintain and find some peace.
October 30th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Proffessor Hanson is wrong again. When he wrote the book “Who Killed Homer?” he was invited to Greece for an exclusive interview and was ridiculed by a very knowlegable reporter. His book is nothing but a propaganda against the greek language.
Now he wants the US to forget another stupid thing the neocons have created the war.
I say this Mr. Hanson: Get a life and leave us alone.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Go “ef” yourself Mr. Hanson.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
huge news on the pentagon http://video.google.com/videop.....5659781278 also see http://www.thepentacon.com
October 30th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
ASK QUESTIONS DEMAND ANSWERS!
October 30th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
The day he moves his family to Baghdad, is the day I believe him and ANY of ‘em… I’m still waiting, and I don’t beLIEve them… NONE of them!!!
October 30th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
I visit infowars hoping to find people with at least an IQ of 50, unlike those retards who get their news via MSM, so far I haven’t been disappointed, I would venture a guess most who are on this site have an IQ well above 100. Having said that, 9-1-1 was an obvious inside job and probably initiated by neocon zionists fools. Peace.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I hold an honorable discharge for serving 6 years in the US Marines, an AA degree, a BS degree, and presently working on a MS degree; yet, with all that so-called real-world education, it is easily less than what I gained from this website for the past 5 years or so. Thank you Alex Jones and David Icke for helping me wake up to the real world as it is now. I have no doubt the federal reserve is illegal, that 9-1-1 was an inside job, and that the members of the Bush administration are a bunch of liars! Having said that, be the change you want to find. Peace.
October 30th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Hey “once a Marine” I’ve got the MS in engineering and finished the PhD courses – not the dissertation. Yes, you are among intelligent people. 9/11 was an inside job – just don’t know who yet! Keep looking – don’t believe mainstream media, they are either dumber than dirt or paid to say what they say. DTNWO.
October 31st, 2008 at 12:02 am
the planes that flew into the buildings were remote-controlled….
watch “911 in plane site” on video google …. they were not commercial airliners..
and no ways a aluminium plane punches through 6 walls of reinforced concrete at the pentagon…
that being said,
the satanic elite know there real enemy, and they will not hesitate to unleash bird-flu, nukes, haarp california into the ocean or something worse…
this is not a game, buy dvds and get them to soliders, police-men, national guard, firemen, senators, congressmen asap…
my recommendation would be
“america freedom to fascism”
“the money masters”
“terrorstorm”
“endgame”
“loose change 2nd edition”
buy those 5, make copies (find out how if u dont know how), and give them to at least 20-100 people…..
this is not a game, if u cant even do that, dont waste time acting smart and macho and posting comments
thanks all,
love God, love mankind, fear God, fear no one, live hard,
Steve
contactable on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
October 31st, 2008 at 12:39 am
bah hum bug – good instincs!
rumor has it bush sr. was not going to allow the announcement of nesara on the morning of sept.11 at 10 am.
rumors also indicate the actual acts were from a an alleged cia group called aquarius under the direct order of the big bush.
does anyone else remember when ma & pa bush moved into the white house with jr. for a little while? actions happened pretty close to same time line. i dont know but its interesting.
follow the back channels you will find nesara is on the move right now totally fucking a nwo near you!
its been said- many arrests and some brutal removals just took place all over Europe last week.
keep on wreckin shit N-warriors – we love ya for it
no mo nwo!!!
October 31st, 2008 at 1:03 am
If you fuck with my memory NWO I will take what you love best.
October 31st, 2008 at 2:07 am
Yes, Dr. Hansen is the worst kind of public employee.
If he had stuck to history, instead of this unintelligible crap which he has no credentials or experience to support.
He is a windbag and his “political” writings are no better than smelly, used fishwrap. Maybe this is why anyone with a pulse can be accepted to Fresno State, or is that Selma U.
October 31st, 2008 at 6:27 am
KILL EM ALL LET GOD SORT EM OUT AAAARGGGGGGGGHHHH I HATE THESE BASTARDS
October 31st, 2008 at 6:45 am
Someone dies alone in the jungle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj8wiQC9Px4
October 31st, 2008 at 7:08 am
TRUTH….We are the way we are because most Americans are pathetic. If you doubt what I say, look at grocery store parking lot, 99% of people won’t take personal responsibility for returning the cart.
Stop blaming Them and Look at yourself, Did you personally do anything to make this World a better place? If so, you’re in the minority!
Every individual who voted or didn’t vote is to blame for this mess. We allowed it to happen because had their head up there ass. between TV commercials ….Let’s get real.
Parents putting thir kids on drugs because they’re too lazy to spend time with the kids and let them run outdoors, easier to say hyperactive and drug em!
My Fellow Americans, the majority…..Shame on you!
For those who don’t like this posting…Truth Hurts!
October 31st, 2008 at 7:22 am
hi
I miss Ron Paul…
October 31st, 2008 at 7:28 am
Between2… I agree that people have forgotten their place in life’s grand circle of individual accountability. However, we must NOT FORGET THE CULTURAL/SOCIAL ENGINEERING THAT PUSHED THEM IN THAT DIRECTION! If we can remove these elitist, hierarchial influences, humanity can begin to REMEMBER who they really are. It’s akin to someone who keeps getting headaches b/c of their eating habits. But instead of changing their eating habits, they just keep taking pain relievers. Until you remove the root causes, you are going to have great difficulty in battling such a problem.
If you doubt that there is a conspiracy to dehumanize the public, thus making them irresponsible and uncompassionate, I suggest you take a look at Charlotte Iserbyt’s “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” and a document known as “Silent Weapons for Quiet War”. That information would help you BEGIN to understand the intense depth of manipulation and deception being played out upon our species.
To the return of Love, Liberty and Justice…
On with the r3VOLution!!!
October 31st, 2008 at 7:45 am
In response to post #14… Welcome to the r3VOLution. Maybe you could help us by sharing with your Marine partners some of what you’ve learned. Giving someone a DVD copy- preferrably Fabled Enemies, EndGame, America:Freedom to Fascism, or Terrorstorm- is VERY effective. Some people don’t take this information very well, due to the deep spell of brainwashing they are under, but such cognitive dissonance is essential to the shifting of one’s paradigm. Though many seem unchanged by recieving such info, regardless of their reaction, YOU HAVE PLANTED A SEED IN THEIR MIND! As time goes by, they will start to notice more and more things that serve to back up what you taught them. Eventually, that Holy Seed may take root and even break through all the brainwashing!
May God give Strength to the weak, so that they may gain the courage to face the Truth and share it with all…
On with the r3VOLution!!!
Fight the InfoWar!
Hand out flyers and/or DVD copies!!
DTTNWO!!!
October 31st, 2008 at 8:51 am
Here’s something that just popped in my mind while reading these blogs by you guys/girls…the election is tuesday….haven’t you noticed that everything is all about “Obama”. I read somewhere that it is beginning to look like a landslide.
Follow me! Most of us know that the elections are nothing but a big public spectacle meant to look like a heavy weight fight. We know that the previous 2 elections were rigged and we had a president in office ILLEGALLY. If you don’t know the elections were rigged…check out the HBO Special about it. They were caught red handed, cheating!
OK, so, 2 years ago…the people wanted a change in the senate and darn near everyone went Democrat. As soon as Pelosi and company got into office, she said: “Impeachment is off the table.” Now, at this point “the people” want her head on a stick because she refused to go after the impeachment of the president.
Here we are now, just 4 days away from, perhaps, one of the “BIGGEST” election in american history. We have a candidate who may or may not be a US resident and we have “war vet” McCain who can barely move; he’s so old. Not only that but we have Sarah “shes so hot but not very intellectual regarding facts” Palin as his V.P.
If you look at the two candidates….which is the “obvious” choice, out of the 2 they gave us to choose from? Obama, of course! He plays the part very, very well. Intellectual, focused, clean (if you know what i mean), the whole package….especially compared to the “mighty leader”, who justs wants to play g.i. joe president that’s in office now.
So, why….would they have to rig the election? The table is already set….and by a landslide. Let’s face it…McCain’s ass his old….and….he is republican! Right now, it is not a good time to be a republican so, of course, you’re gonna go democrat. YOU WANT CHANGE! And they want to give it to you…..ROYALLY….Like they did 2 years ago.
They know, you are not going to have another rigged election…so, i seriously doubt they will try that again…not in this generation. We’ve already seen the trick!
Instead, what may happen is it goes according to plan. Obama wins by a landslide…for obvious reasons….then: a) a false flag attack, which then the repub’s can say: “see, you were safer with us” or b) someone assassinates what could be an ally in Obama…and i say: “Could be?!”
Doesn’t anyone think that Palin was a crazy choice for V.P.? Do you think it was by accident? Or…coincidence? And what about Biden…not much coverage on him….why not? Nobody is saying ANYTHING about this guy….and he is Obama’s running mate. All i know is he is from delaware…and delaware is like 2 miles long. It is the smallest state in america. How did he get so much experience?
Anyway, those are just my thoughts that i thought i would share with you; to give you a better idea of what you’re really up against. If you want to try to get a third party candidate elected here is my idea: Go early to the voting booths and beg each voter to vote 3rd party; have your material ready on why they should change their vote.
Truthers need to hit each and every place where voters go to vote, early in the morning….so, you can be first to vote. While people are arriving, start talking to them and tell them who you are voting for and why they should think about changing to 3rd party. Stay away from 911 was an inside job….that shit is old already. Think…Patriot Act 1 and 2 type material instead. If you have a portable c.d. player, get some dvd’s of Ron Paul and play them while in line. REMEMBER, no 911 stuff…people aren’t going to listen. Stick with Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, Cynthia McKinney, or whoever is against the NWO….and stay away from that too.
Whatever you do…if you even take this advice…don’t scare the voters…INFORM THEM. Inform them on the things that pertain to them and their children. Share your knowledge with others so that they are better equipped to make a better decision when deciding who should govern their lives. Choose wisely people, even though i don’t think it matters…..look at the choices!
JESUS GETS MY VOTE…NOBODY ELSE!!!
October 31st, 2008 at 9:59 am
ya know he needs a good old fasioned dirt road ass kicken.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:11 am
For neocons the truth is whatever they say it is. And can change in a heartbeat.
October 31st, 2008 at 11:16 am
Professor Hanson would appreciate it if all those “anti-Semites,” and “radical leftists”? There’s an old saying; He who smelt it, delt it.
October 31st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Off topic, but – one final appeal to please vote for Chuck Baldwin.
Check out Greg Evensen’s latest column: THE NEXT CIVIL WAR FOR HISTORIC AMERICA: ARE YOU MY ENEMY? http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg133.htm
October 31st, 2008 at 1:28 pm
I had a conversation with a friend this morning who told me she’s entirely for concealed weapons permits and that Socialism is the best form of government. She’s voting for Obama and backs him all the way. You just can’t trust those crazy people with concealed weapons permits who go through background checks who may be packing. That’s the mentality behind the Obama followers folks. I’m throwing a 911 was an inside job party tomorrow, and I’m going to start having an annual event where I try to inform idiots such as my friend. Hey, I’ve converted two family members over to the thinking side with two more to go just based on turning them on to web sites like infowars and Coast to Coast where credible guests such as Alex, Catherine Austin Fitts, etc., etc. have a platform. One bro recently saw the first Zeitgeit flick, and he proclaimed, “Holy shit, it really was an inside job.” I know Alex and the Zeitgeist guy went to town arguing, but I still think the first Zeitgeist is an excellent film and presents the facts very powerfully, just like all of the other wonderful documentaries out there. Maybe all of the awake people out there should start having an annual educational event where your guests just have to STFU and watch the film. Nothing works as well as a documentary in my opinion in our attempts to awaken the dead.
October 31st, 2008 at 6:46 pm
we are so distracted by the nonsense. what do you think people would be thinking about. the mindset of america is soft and malleable.
http://www.aniboom.com/video/2.....ll-speech/
October 31st, 2008 at 8:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a31D0c9Tk8
October 31st, 2008 at 10:35 pm
It isn’t long before they start putting everything in RFID chips.. Stock up on Necessities and Learn proper natural health Care
http://www.curecabinet.com
November 1st, 2008 at 12:39 am
Documentaries are good, but so are books. We need to get used to reading because the criminal elite don’t do documentaries. We have to read their white papers and their declassified documents. As for the Zeigest, Alex was only pointing out to be careful with him because he added several things to the “Zeigest addendum” that are very questionable. He also “just like many” have some mis-information about how money works and how it’s created. I just read an excellent book called “The Fraud of the Fraud: Have you been taken for a ride?” in which the criminal elite is exposed as infiltrating every movement on substance on the planet. Why would we think that the truth movement is untapped by them? It’s like the FreeMasons who ignor the fact that the Illuminati has infiltrated the lodges.
Refer to: http://www.amazon.com/FRAUD-HA.....438261918/
November 1st, 2008 at 4:18 am
The problem no one is addressing enough..is the dumbing down that has been so very effective.
People now would rather get their news from comedy central and MTV (or CBS or FOX) than from doing a little research for themselves.
Personally I believe it’s going to get much…much worse before it can get any better…
Sorry….we’re screwed kids….
Not enough people want to hear truth…they would rather drink beer..smoke crack or play video games.
November 1st, 2008 at 6:33 am
What is that catholic banner doing on MR protestants website? A true protestant would have nothing to do with that nonsense that the banner clicks onto. Ohterwise everything is on point.
November 1st, 2008 at 8:59 am
I’m at the point where I don’t want to hear any more of this unless the so called men in this country are willing to actually be men and take action.
And zeitgiest 2 is the NWO that should be pretty clear people.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:54 am
stand up and be counted.
best wishes,
a.
November 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm
DonO, they might not be NWO but the shi* there propogating is totally NWO, with the ‘UN Christ’ in the intro and outro clips, I forget his name. The Zeitgeist movement is basically the idea of technology being used to free the common man, but what has history proved when this has been ‘promised’, total tyranny and centralized control, then it never comes to ‘good for the common man’.
November 1st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
#41, Zeitgeist is NWO. No doubt.
Belief in God is always attacked by the NWO because then there is a higher king than our earthly kings. Governments want to attack God so that they can be God.
Attacking organized religion is fine, but to attack the belief in God, absolutely wreaks to high hell of NWO.
Personally I’m saving bullets for those Zeitgeist drones. After we throw off this government, I’ll be damned to let the most disguised tentacle of the NWO thrive.
November 1st, 2008 at 4:19 pm
UHHHH ur just a fooled, bias, christian …..Religion is the NWO ..wake up kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Test
November 1st, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Love the idea of Zeotgeost but understand Alex’s and other concerns. Right now it is not a practicle solution. We have a long way to go before we even can consider this.
November 1st, 2008 at 9:45 pm
No one is censoring you tard carts… Read the Notice next to the friggin Submit button….
” Comments may take some time to appear when server is under heavy loads. ”
Obv….
November 1st, 2008 at 10:26 pm
~Oh DonO
~Who cares about the interview per say then the messge behind it all..ya ya so was a average interview…point is zietguest junkies, is that you cant have a unified world governement in any case! there always needs to be checks in balances so to speak which is what a variety of countrys offer when their not centralized. If something goes wrong in your little utopia world, no ones gonna be there to help you, theres no where for you to run, and you ushered in your own extinction willingly.
~The NWO is not Disney world get a grip!
November 1st, 2008 at 11:51 pm
dono you obviously missed the follow up interview to that story but unless you pay close attention to his radio show on a daily basis for hours straight then its easy for someone to come to that conclusion. i am so tired of having to defend the guy or anyone else for that matter.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:53 am
Comment@52 Dono, tell me something dude….WHY…..do you listen to Alex on a regular basis and download the podcast daily ?………..because after reading you comments, I’m left wondering if you actually do anything constructive in waking people up…….because you certainly have not learnt anything along the way
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:02 pm
#50 A one world government would work under a system NOT based on the monetary system. It wouldnt be perfect but it would be better. You talk about zeitgeist followers like theyre retarded but if you ask me, if YOU just sit back and eat every damn thing alex feeds you then your just as blind as the average sheep walking in the heard in front of bush and his boys. I like alex and he has done some great things for me, but he dosent know everything !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:07 pm
DUDE!!! So many people here just listen and do whatever alex fuckin tells them………he was a fuckin dick to peter joesph and is a conservative christian which makes him bias upon the zeitgeist film so make up your own mind about zeitgeist. I like alex i beilive in what he is doing and im with him but stop suckin the dudes nob and use your own brain.
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Once again, people whining about AJ and nit picking instead of banning together to fight the NWO. Like it’s AJ’s job to save us! No “thank you’s”. Just criticisms. The more of this I see, the more I think maybe we should all be FEMA camped like we deserve.
As far as “Zeitgeist”- the 911 stuff was good, but the stuff about the Bible was bunk, and sourced mostly from atheist/occultist references.
Google Video “Zeitgeist refuted”. While yer at it, try Ron Wyatt too. And if your really going to diss the Bible effectively- READ IT FIRST. You’ll probably come off as more convincing to the lemmings.
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 pm
#55
~Hey Joe cool as Alex is who said it was his idea? When did you hear him say what i stated anyways? So don’t give me that line of shit..Don’t sit here and preach to me like im just a follower of AJ. Speak for yourself please. What do you think Alex thought up the term and services of checks and balances?..lol give me a break its common sense!. Besides your missing my point, yes you can have a one world government and as explained by Alex and as COMMON SENSE tells you it would have to be run by tyranny obviously, thats the point more or less then can it actually function.