John Charlton
The Post & Email
October 16, 2009
What most people know is that the Associated Press (AP) is one of the largest, internationally recognized, syndicated news services. What most people don’t know that is in 2004, the AP was a “birther” news organization.
How so? Because in a syndicated report, published Sunday, June 27, 2004, by the Kenyan Standard Times, and which was, as of this report, available at
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm
The AP reporter stated the following:
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.
The difficulty in finding this gem of a story is hampered by Google, which is running flak for Obama: because if you search for “Kenyan-born US Senate” you wont find it, but if you search for the phrase without quotes you will find links which talk about it.
For those who believe what they see, here is the screen capture of the page from the Kenyan Sunday Standard, electronic edition, of June 27, 2004 — Just in case that page is scrubbed from the Web Archive:

Readers should take note that this AP story, was syndicated world-wide, so you should be able to find it in major newspapers, archived in libraries world-wide. If any reader does this, please let The Post & Email know, so that we can publish a follow up-story. You can scrub the net, but scrubbing libraries world-wide is not so easy.
Hanen of Sentinel Blog Radio broke the public news of the existence of this AP story at on October 14, 2009 at 12:31 pm. However, The Post & Email can confirm that a professional investigator had uncovered this story months ago, and that certified and authenticated copies of this report, meeting Federal Rules of evidence, have already been prepared and archived at many locations nationwide.It should be noted that on January 8, 2006, the Honolulu Advertiser also reported that Barack Hussein Obama was born outside the United States.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html
A Chronology of Deceit
One can now ask an important question which has not yet been emphasized enough: “Just when did Obama begin to publically claim he was born in Hawaii?” This question is distinct from the question, “Just where in fact was Obama born?”, and from the other question, “What do official documents say about where he was born?”
Regarding his claims, we can summarize what is known:
1. As of Monday, Aug. 28, 2006, Obama’s Campaign was putting out that he was born in Hawaii. This is known from the introductory speech given by Prof. George A. O. Magoha, Vice-Chancellor of the University of Nairobi, on the occasion of a speech given there by Senator Obama that day. (One presumes that the Vice-Chancellor was given notes from the Obama campaign, as is customary on such occasions)
2. From the newspaper reports above, it is clear that the Obama campaign was putting out that he was born in Kenya, or overseas, during the period of June 27, 2004, until January 8, 2006.
3. In October of 2004, during the ABC Chicago Affiliate’s broadcast of the Obama-Keyes debates, Obama openly admitted — he conceded — that he was not a natural born citizen. (C-Span aired the uncut version of the debates, which contained this exchange, in the second half of April, 2005)
4. It is known from a classmate of Obama at Harvard University, that while at Harvard, Obama at least on one occasion admitted that he was born in Kenya. (This friend went on record on a call in radio program in Idaho in early July, 2009)
If any reader can find a link which documents a claim to a birth location before Aug. 28th, 2006, which differs from this timeline or which supports it; please let The Post & Email know of it, by posting it in the comment section below.
In a follow up report, The Post & Email has published a brief analysis of the Google Newspaper archive, which shows that Obama’s story changed after June 27, 2004.
Finally, that the AP did cover this story, reprinted by the East African Standard, can be seen from the citation made to AP stories about it (Jack Ryan dropping out of the race), in the following contemporary news articles, which however are incomplete:
June 25, 2004 — http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123716,00.html
June 26, 2004 — Bellview News Democrat
June 26, 2004 — AP Online Story by Michael Tarm
June 25, 2004 — AP Syndicated Story by Maura Kelly Lannan
(Second Source on June 26, 2009, which cites Associated Press Special Correspondent David Espo and reporter Dennis Conrad as contributors to this report)
(Third Source, The Ledger, print edition of June 26, 2009: partial republication)
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Home » Washington Politics » AP declared Obama “Kenyan-Born”

October 16th, 2009 at 10:35 am
i told everyone YEARS ago…
This spook is an illegal-alien, (D’Juh).
Now you know why i call him FUNZO.
“Grift of the Magi”
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:40 am
he probably got naturalized via CIA foundations he worked for out of college. The college where he has no published papers.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Prolly, FUNZO was a plan long before we knew of him.
willyc Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:02 am
they had ot have known this was to come out at some point.. must be some kind of diversion that theyre using to a)dsitract the public from real matters at hand
and b) to create divisivness am ong the public given the huge build up over “birthers” and how theyre crazy, extreme, RACIST (cough jimmy carter and extreme uininformed democrats)
See Natural Born Citizen Blog Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:02 am
I don’t know why InfoWars is reposting “Post & Email” articles… If you want to see the real story in full clarity from an attorney (Leo Donofrio), check here:
http://naturalborncitizen.word.....nyan-born/
Lots of informative reading.
Juen Wang Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:02 am
There’s also the issue that Obama accepted a Fulbright scholarship when he attended Columbia. You have to be a foreigner to get a Fulbright scholarship.
Anybody with any sense at all knew that this citizenship issue stunk to high heaven. If Obama didn´t have anything to hide, why did he refuse to have his medical records, college transcripts, and other relevant documents released. Why all the mystery surrounding the birth certificate.
Sooner or later the whole truth is going to come out on this guy and how he´s bamboozled the country and made a mockery of the Constitution.
The big question is how do we expel him from office. Check out the video in the link about plans to fight the NWO agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ajstG4AkM
WTSHTF Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Not so; you have it backwards. You must BE a U.S. Citizen to qualify for a Fulbright Scholarship. Of course, that Obama received a Fulbright doesn’t necessarily mean that he was a NATURAL born U.S. citizen. But yes, his Constitutional eligibility to be POTUS remains in serious question.
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Thorne in Their Side:
The law suit which is FINALLY to be heard before a US Circuit Court (January 2010) against Obama / Soetoro is based upon identity fraud.
If he was NEVER “naturalized” from his Indonesian Citizenship (he admits traveling to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport when he was 19, in one of his books!) and was INELIGIBLE TO EVEN VOTE, then his collecting a salary as an Illinois State Senator and/or a US Senator is a FRAUD and a THEFT from both the State of Illinois and the US Government! It is a “…high Crime and Misdemeanor…” and an IMPEACHABLE offense: Article II, Section 4 of the US Constitution…
If he PROVES “NATURALIZATION” to avoid the fraud charge and IMPEACHMENT, then he proves he is INELIGIBLE to be POTUS! “Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive…”
End the Fed Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=8839123
Truther420 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
thorne in their side… unfortunletly, if o really isnt elgible to be president, then he’s also not elgible for impeachment. if he is uncostitutionaly our president, hes still our president, but not impeachable. i think that was the point to make him president. sad… we need to get through to more people!!!! wake up!!!!! were under attack right now!!
tee Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Well, the AP spelled Barack Obama’s name wrong, so this could be a spoof.
Sid Syd Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:32 am
It was a complete miss-spelling. It should have been Barry Soetoro.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Barack Obama has used 2 R’s in his name before! His real name is Barry Soetoro, so yeah, they did mis-spell his name!!There exsists no record anywhere, where he changed his legal name to Barack H. Obama! So in that sense he has committed fraud as well!!!
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Thorne has this right, but AP gets things wrong every day.
Rayofspite Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
It’s not to surprising to make a ‘typo’ it’s from an English Language Newspaper in Kenya, a third world nation. What did you expect?
Cp Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Just want to point this out. The ad in the upper right corner is very ‘freemasons like”.
Would not be suprised if this is a hoax.
Sharkman Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Throw this curious george looking puke out on his ass..
Enough Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
The Republicans are at it again causeing your blood to boil for no reason only to get more angry Americans. There is a war for your mind and the Infowars are helping you to become angry and negative. But don’t take it from me because when the day comes and the s--- hits the fan, there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP THEM.
Bill G Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Hello,
The enemy of humanity, the Old Foul Odor (NWO / OWG), is determined to break your will to fight. That is their primary goal. Anything or anyone, like you, who assist them to break the will to fight might as well join the Old Foul Odor. You are a collaborator, nothing more. If you really want to help the Old Foul Odor, you should help them jump start their eugenics pogrom (intentional, no spell check needed) yourself. The DNC / RNC stooges are all either uneducated dupes / useful idiots, or collaborators. The goal of your enemy is to break your will to fight. Deny them that goal, no matter what.
College Grad Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
This is hilarious. It’s really mildly entertaining sometimes to see what all the bored uneducated people are filling their minds with. Have any of you people been to a college before?
maelstrom- “The college where he has no published papers.” -Are you aware that it is extremely uncommon for undergraduate papers to be published for any kind of reason?
Juen Wang -” You have to be a foreigner to get a Fulbright scholarship.” -Do you even know what a Fullbright is? It’s one of the most prestigious scholarships that an AMERICAN college grad can receive. It’s VERY commonly given to promising American college graduates.
Also, you all have a comical grasp of constitutional law.
Gandhi Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Hey college grad,
Have you ever been to a blog before? Most of the people here do not know eachother and some of the info is off the cuff so if you are saying that everyone here is stupid because someone posted something wrong then you need some more school-monkey training in the art of logic. In otherwords, your a fool.
Gandhi Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:13 am
oh college dude,
By the way, we the people (free bloggers) decide what the US Constitution means not the government or even the corrupt judges who gain by tax enslaving us. Because freedoms (some but not all of which are listed in the constitution) are given to people by God. So you see, it is our comical grasp of the law that is what the gov’t servants are to follow. Again, still, you are a fool.
Gandhi Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:17 am
Hey college grad. What does the equation alpha=2 X d X sin(theta) mean? If you have any kind of a real education you will know what this is. If not then, again you are a fool.
I will give you a hint it has to do with x-ray and it is one of the most important equations in the world.
jon Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Also, you all have a comical grasp of constitutional law.
Hay! Dumbass, where is the Constitution with this government? In the trash! Logan Act? In the trash. Get ready to boot step to the camps. The government is poison and we are the rats. So, wipe your ass with it “it is nothing but a G–d-mn piece of paper!” So said Georgie Bush.
Gandhi Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Hey jon, it is only because you are too cowardly to protect your own rights that the US Const. is in the trash at your house.
Educated Marine Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 am
So what! He’s not running for the presidency.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Actually, according to the Constitution, Even as a naturalized Citizen he could NOT be President! He has to be Natural Born! It is very specific about this, where it is vague in other areas!!
Natural Born means that BOTH parents have to be old enough to be classified as US Citizens, and the have to have lived x numbers of years in the States! His mother wasn’t old enough at the time of his birth, and his father was Kenyan! Which is where he was born!!!
Needless to say, this disqualifies him as President of the United States!!!
J Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Both parents do not need to be US Citizens by birth, only by document. But he must be born in the United States and if he leaves, he must be a US citizen for 14 years with out leaving again which is called “establishing naturalization” along with his natural United States birth. If he was born outside US borders HE CAN NOT BE THE PRESIDENT.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Thank you J……. That was what was intended, but sometimes my point is slightly off!
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
there’s a bit of dispute whether both parents have to be US citizens. Natural-born citizen has never been defined by any court. If Barry is lying about his age and was born 2 years earlier but in Hawaii, he is ineligble, Hawaii was a territory then. If his parents claimed British subjectness for him after birth, he is not eligible. Whadya think bout them thangs thar J?
UK Fan Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:22 am
No disrespect to you but you might want to check your facts. You have to go by the Constitution when Barry was born and not today. Both parents have to be US citizens at the time he was born but because his father was Kenyan and subject to British Law, under the law at that time it makes him a British citizen. His mother was also a minor at the time. Of course my info comes from what I have read. As I said, no disrespect.
jeffohio Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 2:34 am
This is the way I see it. There may be some argument as to whether he is a natural born citizen. However, he has publicly stated he was born in Ha. If now he admits(or is proven) to have been born in Kenya, he admits(guilty of) fraud.
I am not amused Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Actually according to the Constitution I do not think he is eligible to serve as president.
Dual citizens do not qualify. His father was a British Subject. I do not believe he was born in Hawaii. I think even if he was; since his father was a British Subject I think legally that makes him a dual citizen and that makes him ineligible to have his hand on the nuke button. I do not hear that brought up much though.
I know, I am the crazy one for insisting that this little thing like the supreme law of the land the Constitution (that g damned piece of paper) be upheld. I know, I am funny like that.
I really do beleive no one is above the law. Not even Barry, Barack, “The One” or whatever the hell he is calling himself these days.
I recently ran across a piece where the democrats had I think submitted or at least printed 2 versions of their declaring him eligible to be their candidate. One had the clause in there under the Constitution the second one omitted that little clause. It was signed by Pelosi I think. I would call that collusion if what I am 98% sure is going on is going on.
Well, if the house of cards falls – and it should. That would leave Biden out – he is on the Obama ticket, Pelosi goes to jail. Who is next Speaker Tem Pore of the Senate I think?
I can’t believe they actually pushed it this far!
Shame on them, all of them!
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
his parents had to have claimed british subjecthood for him, or he had to keep it after his 18th birthday without formally renouncing it. There is nothing that says dual citizens do not qualify, if they meet the other conditions including natural-born and haven’t sworn allegiance to a foreign power, I guess.
SoonaOrlata Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Too much to ask for a ‘do-over’?
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:31 am
Well said, That was where I was try so clumsily to go! Sometimes my mind works faster than my fingers, so I try and cut it short!
Thanks again for adding the rest!
jeffohio Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 2:35 am
You are right, Biden is out. Pelosi gets the job.
Naomi Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Exactly, Obama isn’t legally qualified to be president. But then again, whatever the elite says goes.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 1:47 am
But then again, the Elite of the Elite, (We The People and the U.S. Constitution) have yet to really speak out about it, and change this criminal activity!!!!
Jane Reply:
October 24th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
This is for everyone who either does not know civics or their constitution. I do not know why this topic is become a flexing of unused brain cells. Ghandi what does quantum psychics have to do with this topic we could discuss planks theory, heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, dual wave, ect. or M theory but Why?Thorne before you wag your small amount of “we the people”, please read the natural born citizen. It is not what you have spout off about dear.
From the U.S. Code Online via GPO Access
[www.gpoaccess.gov]
[Laws in effect as of January 3, 2007]
[CITE: 8USC1401]
[Page 391-392]
TITLE 8–ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
CHAPTER 12–IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
SUBCHAPTER III–NATIONALITY AND NATURALIZATION
Part I–Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization
Sec. 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States
at birth:
………
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United
States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an
alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to
the birth of such person, was physically present in the United
States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling
not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining
the age of fourteen years
Ergo, Obama’s a natural-born citizen and constitutionally eligible to serve, however much a fake and a fraud and a disaster he is.
WHY DID PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM NOT ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS. NOW YOUR ASKING . HE HAS MUCH TO HIDE I KNOW WHERE HIS SECRETS ARE THAT WILL BRING HIM DOWN. DO YOU?
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 25th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Jane…… Climb down off of your soap Box!! That law was intended to get Arnold set up to run for President, and it failed!! The Constitution is VERY CLEAR on this!! OBAMA IS NOT A “Natural Born” !!!!! I could care less if he has been Naturalized or not, the fact remains that he IS Illegitimate as President!!!
And for your information, I didn’t vote the f---er into office!! I thought from what he was saying he “might” have been a good idea, But that was where it stopped!!! And it reversed real quick when he resigned the UN-PATRIOT ACT 3 days after he was swore in, and while he was being sworn in, couldn’t bring himself to actually say the words “Protect and Defend the Constitution”, without laughing!!!
The “Law” that you refer to, is what describes a Naturalized Citizen any way, NOT A NATURAL BORN! Learn the Difference!!!
In order for Obama or Arnold to be able to run for and attain the office of President LEGALLY, is to change the Constitution, and they were told that it wouldn’t happen for Arnold!!
And if in all your Blustering, you actually know where to find the hard evidence against Obama, then you need to put up or shut up!!!
MAD DOG Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:47 am
IF HE IS A NATURALIZED CITIZEN, THEN HE’S GUILTY OF FELONY FRAUD FOR APPLYING AND EXCEPTING FOREIGN AID FOR COLLEGE.
BattleHardened Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:19 am
he’s also guilty of murder, and the use of illegal drugs, but is congress going to do anything, I’ remember Waco Slick Willey never served time for murder of treason [ giving tech to the Chinese for campaign funds]and the Bush administration for murder, rape torture, or treason.
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
THE LONG LEGGED MACK DADDY……………..LIAR GAYLORE.
THE WATCHER Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
maelstrom – Go to the head of the class! Obama DID receive help from the “Ford Foundation”! Obama’s mother (”Ford Foundation” employee) AND both his fathers were C.I.A. employees and oil company executives, which means Obama was also under influence of the Rockefeller oil conglomerates. Understanding the foregoing, does anyone doubt why the bastard is holding office?!
Mac-101 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:45 am
Don’t forget Little Timmy Giethners Daddy worked for the Ford Foundation, big CFR dude and worked with President Obama’s Momma given away money in Indonesia. A lot of it went to Pakistan. And we have President’s Obamas summer break to Pakistan in 1981. And lastly LT Quarles Harris Jr having a copy of President Obama’s passport and running a credit card scam. Agreed to accept immunity and got wacked 2 weeks latter. There still is a 25 g reward for info pertaining to his death!
Obama Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Hey!! No racist hate-crimes around here, godamnit!! …or I´ll fema camp your ass!!
whosawhatsit Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:25 am
LOL XD
You tell em. No good mother f---ers, bow down to you new leader and masters, bitches.
oK Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:56 am
you two are mental/spiritual midgets
oK Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:57 am
*no offense to little people of the world, i love you*
get over it Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
your my bitch so stfu!
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:44 am
“SPOOK” is not racist, at the risk of dating-myself, the term means Federal goon.
Obama Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:47 am
You talking to me??!!??? I´m black!!! You´re critizising me!!!! RACIST!!!! HATE-CRIME RACIST!!!!!
unohoo Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
your popularity is on the ruff and rocky road, I would watch it, if I were you.
get over it Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
ungowa ungowa
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:56 am
yeah, spook means g-man, or spy.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:42 am
And can even be applied to agent provacuteurs (?) probably mis-spelled that one, but you get my point!
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
damn thorne i think you spelled it right. now someone tell us the correct plural form: agents provocateur or agents provocateurs?
SoonaOrlata Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Traditionally, an agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs, French for “inciting agent(s)”) is a person employed by the police or other entity to act undercover to entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal act. More generally, the term may refer to a person or group that seeks to discredit or harm another by provoking them to commit a wrong or rash action.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:35 am
Thank you, SoonaOrlata!!
what about this Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:49 am
What if the world focused this much attention to physically verifying a single piece of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11? After 8 years…not one single piece has ever been verified.
There were no commercial plane crashes on 9-11.
OLD Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:07 am
What if you, and every other douche, could please stick to the subject of the article.
Don't be a Sucker Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Go here —> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ofilepage#
then go away
Steve Spence Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 8:42 am
I was there, I saw the planes hit the trade centers. I saw the debris.
END THE FED NOW Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:52 am
mason symbols all over the american dollar bill
WHY CANT PEOPLE WAKE UP
MASONRY IS A CULT RELIGION
WHO WORSHIP THE FALSE GOD MOLECH
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
henrymakow.com
infowars.com
goodnewsaboutgod.com against the new world order
drtenpenny.com
fluscam.com
bohemian grove
bilderberg group
WAKE UP
stand up FOR THE CONSTITUTION
END THE FED GET EVERY STUDENT IN AMERICA THE BOOK
they dont teach s--- in school
when you have a FEDERAL education system WITH FEDERAL EDUCATION DEPARTMENT
THEY TEACH THE KIDS ONLY WHAT T H E Y want them to Know
look up charlotte iserbyt John taylor Gatto
WAKE UP
wake up others
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
END THE FED NOW:
As an ex-DeMolay, who got the heck OUT of there when I realized (only intuitively, at first) that there was something SERIOUSLY wrong with Masonry (and later discovered Albert Pike’s writings and confirmed precisely WHAT was “…extremely rotten in the State of Denmark…”, to quote the Bard), let me make a slight correction to your discussion of Masonry.
According to Pike, in Morals and Dogma, it is FAR WORSE than Molech worship. It is hard core LUCIFERIANISM: worship of LUCIFER!
And is is NOT that “…they don’t teach S**T in school…”: it is that they teach ALMOST NOTHING BUT s**t in most State public schools!!!
Mac-101 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:49 am
Can you verify President Clinton was a DeMolay teen leader untill he got the internship for Sen Fulbright? Yes, that pinko Commie, can you say CIA plant!
'Merican Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:09 am
OPPOSITION PAID TO FIGHT US / ITALIAN / NATO FORCES TO KEEP WAR GOING !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1olLcBlNCwU
unohoo Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
That same thing has been going on since the world began, it is not new, this king hires two other kings to fight for him or with him . . . flip a couple pagers and catch up.
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I THINK THATS ILLEGAL,……………. A FOREIGNER BEING OUR PRESIDENT
____________________FAST, CONTACT THE AUTHORITIES.
____________WAIT……………………………..HE IS “THE AUTHORITIES” NOW
OH………..OH NO…OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
__________________________[they screamed]
Gerri Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I don’t want to pee in anyone’s cherrios…but…AP and Reuters…are not “reliable sources”…
And I hate to even bring this up on this subject…Obama…even if he was born in Kenya…it doesn’t matter…his mother was and still is an American…and our laws are clear on this…he too is an American…
Look at it this way…you’re pregnant and you go on vacation to Brazil…and you have your baby there…the baby is still considered an American Citizen…period…that same child has the luxury of also being considered a citizen of Brazil too…
The only point I can see in all of this is the fact that if he was actually born in Kenya and his mother is an American citizen then he would have dual-citizenship…which still doesn’t prevent him from being President…he…President Obama…would only have to denounce his Kenyan citizenship to prevent any question of “divided loyalties”…he would still under our Constitution be considered a “natural borne citizen” even if he didn’t denounce his Kenyan citizenship…
Sorry to burst any bubbles here…
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:20 am
No bubbles burst, no pee either.
LOLO SOETORO was a BRITISH NATIONAL.
Under current law, Obama is no-more a US citizen than ADOLF HITLER.
Illegal, (not president) and wholly ALIEN.
Gerri Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Actually under current law…he is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.....ct_of_2000
wiki check Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Gerri, quoting from your reference to legislation enacted in 2000, “The child must have at least one U.S. citizen parent by birth or naturalization, be under 18 years of age (have been born on or after February 27, 1983 … ”
Barry / Barrack / Barack, etc. was presumably born pre-1983.
Amabo Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Gerri – You must apply the law at the time of his birth, not the law now.
Dave Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Ok This just cracks me up Gerri! First you say AP and Reuters…are not “reliable sources”… Then post a Wikipedia link??? LMMFAO!!!!
Gerri Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Dave…I trust Wikipedia more so than any MSM infonewtainment source…will this link help?
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
Constitutional Topic: Citizenship
The Constitutional Topics pages at the USConstitution.net site are presented to delve deeper into topics than can be provided on the Glossary Page or in the FAQ pages. This Topic Page concerns Citizenship. Citizenship is mentioned in Article 1, Section 2, Article 1, Section 3, Article 1, Section 8, Article 2, Section 1, and in the 14th Amendment and several subsequent amendments.
If you’re going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must. To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States. To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.
Natural-born citizen
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
AreYouKiddingME? Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:37 am
I hate to burst YOUR bubble but at the time his mother did NOT qualify to be an American citizen so Obama is NOT a citizen from ANY angle.
In fact everything he is doing to the US right now with all of these treaties etc, is a PERFECT example why NON US citizens are NOT be be president. Now granted we have PLENTY of TREASONOUS citizen presidents who have been doing the same things but to have a KENYAN come in and hand over the keys with in the FIRST YEAR of his term is even more horrifying.
Gerri Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
His mother was born in Kansas and lived her entire life in the US…how does this make her ineligible to be an American?
Your other points are “right on”…and none of us have done anything about it…we’ve been brainwashed into “compliance”…
jeffohio Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 2:40 am
His mother was born in Kansas and lived her entire life in the US…how does this make her ineligible to be an American?
Since when is Kansas a part of Indonesia?
Did’nt Lord O admit to going to school in Indonesia?
Did’nt his mother marry an Indonesian?
Gerri Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 3:37 am
jeffohio…she never renounced her citizenship…living abroad doesn’t mean you aren’t an American any more…my sister went to school in Rome for a year…does this mean she’s Italian now?
My grandmother married a Lithuanian…does it means she’s now a Lithuanian citizen?
Please, I mean no disrespect to anyone here…immigration laws have been pretty clearly spelled out…if his mother was an American then so is he…
The MSM wants us to jump up at this “red herring”…it’s a waste of time unless we all decide to do something about it…
Arguing with each other is what the NWO wants…divide and conquer…
Johnny Canuck Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Well, this explains why he was all but kissing the Queen’s ass. She is his Queen too, via the Commonwealth. I know I’ve posted the following site before a few times, but this is important. This site proves that this guy is fraudulent from the get- go.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn.....pr09.shtml
UK Fan Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Thank you but who will stop him?
bizboi Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:49 am
The Japs will stop whoever the f--- they want with lasers from the ground
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:49 am
But according to the rules of “Natural Born Citizen” he is NOT qualified! His mother was only barely 18 when he was born, which makes her eligibility REQUIRED to be “NATURAL BORN” not valid! The ONLY way it could be valid, is IF BOTH parents were Citizens of the U.S., which in the case of Barry Soetoro A.K.A. Barack Obama Disqualify’s him from “Natural Born” Status!!!
In other words, it doesn’t matter! THe Constitution, which Obama holds in such disdain, is VERY specific on this where it isn’t in others for a reason, To keep foreigners out of power on the executive level!!
Sorry to burst your Bubble!! Read the rule of law, it’s called the Constitution!
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
that’s the point, to keep furners out, but there are no rules spelled out to what constitutes natural born, the constitution doesn’t say and no court has made a ruling about what it means. according to the term as it was understood then, it means he was born on american soil to american citizens.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 4:41 am
Exactly spelled out in article II Sec.1, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”
And this is what disqualifies him!!
John Galt Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Gerri;
Are you dense or just self delusional. Thats a big part of the problem with this usurper. Stupid people that havent even read the Constitution and many that have, haven’t a grasp on the english language to understand it. What part about ART II, Sec. 1 “No Person except a natural born Citizen” dont you understand. If your not born on American soil, your not natural born. Your a dumbass.
Gerri Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Name calling doesn’t win any points…
Look…I don’t pretend to know all things…but the Constitution…I understand better than 99% of the people in this Country…
The term “natural born citizen” was never clearly defined…and could me alot of things…if you take this literally as you have then the first 10 Presidents were not Natural Born Citizens…they were British subjects even at the adoption of our Constitution and by your logic…still British Citizens…
What part am I missing?
wiki check Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
The U.S. Constitution specifically made provision for the founding fathers, who obviously would not qualify under the rules spelled out.
John Galt Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Gerri;
Sorry, I get short sometimes. You say you have more grasp than 99% but follow me here. A large part of the problem is that Americans haven’t a clue to the Constitution and most have not read it. You will not find the right to travel specifically enumerated in the Constitution yet you have that right by inference. B.O.R. ART I. You cant have the right to peaceably assemble if you dont have the right to travel. That or the document is naught.
Now, everyone here thats worth their salt does their own research. I’ll let you because you probably wouldn’t believe me if I showed you. Under the maxim, dont believe it till you can prove it for yourself. You can find the definition at the time of the writing of the document for “natural born citizen”. A natural born citizen is a person/human born within a state of the union (as opposed to a corporation, an artificial person). Or a person/human having resided in one of the states or within Washington D.C. for fourteen years at the time the Constitution was ratified.
For the answer to your question read the paragraph below.
ART II, Sec 1
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”
wiki check;
Show me.
Turtle Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:06 am
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President…”
Read it like this:
No person except a natural born citizen;
OR [someone who is] a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution
shall be eligible to the office of President
Meaning that to be POTUS, you must be a natural-born citizen. If you were one of the framers of the Constitution, you could not be considered a natural born citizen due to being under British rule prior, you could qualify to be POTUS under the second clause “a citizen … at the time of adoption of this Constitution…”
The founding fathers had to grandfather themselves into POTUS eligibility because none of them were natural-born citizens, even if they were born here. Their parents had loyalty to Britain, not America. Not natural born citizens.
So, this being the case, unless Barry is somewhere in the neighborhood of 234 years old, he cannot qualify under either clause, making him an usurper.
bizboi Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Because Paul Revere told the british to f--- off or die slow just like the Irish have told them in Flanders punk
Sid Syd Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
“if he was actually born in Kenya and his mother is an American citizen then he would have dual-citizenship…which still doesn’t prevent him from being President”
It does. The constitution states the president has to be a natural born citizen.
Section One, Article Two
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
I’ve been following this for well over a year. Its not a non issue. Obama’s team could have made this go away well before Obama became script reader in chief. They could have produced a Birth Certificate when Berg bought the first case before Obama won the nomination. They haven’t and Berg continues to fight.
Gerri Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I have to agree with you on your final point…he could have easily made this go away with verifiable proof…
oK Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Gerri, how much do you get to push bulls---? none i hope..
and by the way, if your telling yourself you would ‘Hate’ to do something…. DON’T THEN DO IT
oK Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
‘..do you get paid to push…’ (my bad)
Gerri Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Sorry I don’t get anything for pointing out a different perspective…I was attempting to be respectful…and engage in polite discussion…especially on this “heated” subject because the MSM has “whipped up” the masses on this…
forgetting the actual naturalization laws and policies this Country has operated under for over 100 years…
Everyone here seems to believe he (President Obama) isn’t Constitutionally our President…I can’t answer either way 100%…BECAUSE I haven’t seen any verifiable documentation to prove or disprove it…
RJM Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:15 am
THIS IS THE BEST IDEA I’VE HEARD IN TWO YEARS TO FIGHT BACK THE GLOBAL ENSLAVEMENT. Aaron Russo was on to something, If we can rally the American people to stop paying these unconstitutional taxes, government won’t be funded and neither will the federal reserve.
Ask yourselves this, do you continue to pay for goods or services from any other industry or sector, if they’re harming you or not doing you any good? Do you continue to pay employees if they lie cheat and steal from YOUR company?
By paying taxes, you paying for them to sit in their fancy high-life positions where they are ABOVE the law and you fund the government and the Federal reserve to continue implementing programs to control YOUR life.
I know its far fetched, but we need to brainstorm and take action. Everyone that comes on this website and others like it needs to STOP TALKING FOR ONCE, AND START TAKING ACTION! We need to get Alex Jones to publicize it and get others in Media to follow.
The protests of all prostests!!!!!!!! The “DON’T PAY YOUR TAXES” protest
Obviously everyone will be forced to pay sales tax but that is ok, Do me a favor and name something that isn’t taxed?…………..That’s hard to answer isn’t it. How in the HELL did we as a Nation that represents and symbolizes Liberty, Justice, and Freedom for the Entire World allow are Constitution to be overran and kicked to the garbage can like this?
The Reason is we are all selfish and trying to look out for what’s best for ourselves and immediate family. We are all trying to Survive by making money and working hard and going to school everyday. We are all too busy with our own lives to do anything that takes time and money to help the greater good.
They have sucked us all into the rat race and web of involving yourself into slavery monday through friday, and some weekends too. A slavery by which you work everyday for hours and hours just to get the scraps of their wealth. Their wealth by the way which is created from paper and a printer and the letter of the Law which they enforce with city, county, state, and federal officers whom which all are FUNDED by YOUR TAXES!
I know this is a long shot protest, but if we are to truly do anything to stand up and fight, rallying the American people to not pay taxes is the way to do it. We bankrupt the government and the Federal Reserve!
If the numbers of participants are large enough, how in the heck can they enforce anything upon us with government officers, We are a country of 307,000,000 people, how many jails and officers and military members do they have to take down the majority of poverty, working, and middle class citizens who would choose to not pay their taxes? NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH.
Get the enitre nation to QUIT PAYING YOUR TAXES, for this to work we need as many people of the 307,709,681 U.S. Population to participate as possible, for if it only ends up being few that rally up and stop paying, they will all suffer and go to jail…We need to plan this wisely and get MASSIVE NUMBERS behind us for this to WORK.
THROW OUT IDEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They may print more money, they may try to scare everyone, but right now 3.3 million people are out a job that were in a job a year ago, that is 3.3 million less people that will pay taxes this year and the next, perhaps for a few years. But what if 200 million people didn’t pay any taxes and just let the Government fund itself into a black pit that will only bring to the changes we want, a new President, a new Congress, a who bunch of new people in the White house and it sounds easy, but people get scared and end up paying their taxes. SO if we can work on getting everyone to stop paying taxes, we can get rid of the problems by making them go broke instead.
John Galt Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RJM:
I said this many times more that a year ago. The best, the very best way to grind this to a halt is a NATION WIDE STRIKE for the minimum of one week but be prepare to go a month. The results are…
The Fed and State receives no FICA taxes
No medicare/medicaid taxes
Dont shop
no sales taxes
Dont travel
No fuel taxes and surcharges
Dont go out to dinner, movies, vacation ect. stay home with the family.
Withdraw all but enough from you bank account to keep it open.
Imagine if there were no trucks moving goods.
No shoppers in the stores.
No patrons in the restaurants.
No one in the movie theaters.
No children in school.
Because there were no goods, no foods in the resurants, no fuel at the gas stations, no one buying and no one there to service.
This would grind to a halt quickly and the assholes in Washington and the state capitals would have to take notice and comply.
If the only the 3% did it, it would still be felt.
The flu BS is a perfect opportunity to do just this. Just say your afraid of the flu and stay home. CALL IN SICK EVERYONE ON THE SAME DAY.
godbluff Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
you numbskulls saying to not pay taxes obviously do not have jobs. stfu! Yeah end up like those two old people; jail for life and millions in fines. Uh yeah that sounds like a good idea. NOT
opfor Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
They can’t jail hounds of thousands of people now can they, your affraid of jail bro. I would be more affraid of what’s coming for all of us then jail. Keep paying the cock munchers and let them get rich well you pretend that that tax money is going to the american people. Your government is illegal but you keep sending them money and giving them power lol. Just mind boggling to me.
John Galt Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
godbluff=numbskull, baaaaah baaaaah baaaaah.
Gawd can anybody read here.
I didn’t say get down and kiss the IRS’s ass like you always have (smootch smootch). Kiss what you want.
I said, if you were attentive that you have a choice. Dont go to work and feed them, to feed on you or… One you didnt see GO….ON……STRIKE. Commerce is the Achilles heel. No commerce=no taxes. This is the vulnerability. HELLO. The ONLY way to impair commerce legally is to not spend and you impair commerce by NOT PARTICIPATING IN IT. Do you have a family? If yes. Stay home go on strike, call in sick as I said. Your (1040) tax is based on your “income”. If you dont work your income goes down. Which may help you, if you dont kiss their asses.
They cant lock you up if you dont go to work, and the flu pandemic may be the reason to stay home. Call in sick.
This cant be that difficult to understand.
Gerri Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
John Galt, great points…it’s very hard not to participate in this economy…food and shelter are needed for survival…
I do agree…don’t buy anything…except the necessities…..that’s all I’ve been doing for the past year…Don’t buy that new car or that big screen tv…or those video games…or even the candy at the checkout…buy just what you need to live…
I have stocked up on some food and grains…”just in case”…
Gerri Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
And seeing my taxes increase on my utility bills is driving me crazy…I’m considering getting rid of my telephone just because of the $15.00 a month in taxes added on to it…
And the damn electric bill has a new 3% surtax here in NY to “help balance the budget”…they claim it’s only temporary…yeah right!
LibraryGirl Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Yes Gerri….they are getting ready to ramp up the hidden taxes….I already see it too!!!
It's Me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:23 am
To the comment about the 9/11 planes. Airplanes are made out of thin iron and aluminum, in which case you over-educated duesh bag would have melted!!!!
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Airline fuel is KEROSENE.
You can’t melt EITHER aluminum, or iron with it, (not hot enough).
Don’t die stupid.
Planeray Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Have you seen photos of large airplane crashes? Many times only the tail & landing gear pieces are recognizable, while the fuselage & wings have melted!
buck swain Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
What about the titanium that is located in the rolls royce engines on the jumbo jets. I’m pretty sure kerosene doesnt burn that hot. I’m also pretty sure that thermite however, does. Those engines are comspicuously absent at the pentagon. Maybe they just vaporized into thin air. The planes were going really fast so that is probably what happened right? Not likely. Yet sheeple like to believe that. Think McFly, think.
Planeray Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Pure titanium won’t melt below 3,000 degrees-more than twice as high as Aluminum. As a dumb kid, I burned some aluminum & magnesium using gas as a starter. Different metals are used in Thermite, Aluminum being one. It’s been awhile, but I thought I did see an engine core… I do recall seeing a landing gear piece that tore a pedestrian’s leg off. I like the McFly reference!
oK Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
shhhh… they are sleeeeeeping! ;P
oK Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
and btw.. if you do want to stay asleep, then do so..
but STOP trying to be a SANDMAN induceing others!
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
you might be able to melt some aluminum if you mixed in some kryolite, dunno.
Freedom isn't Free Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
You all are assuming that it was a plane that hit the Pentagon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU2YCLawf00
john Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:23 am
He’s an alien.
y therlow Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Interesting, however if you want freedom it is time to stop talking about all of this kind of debate and time to act and I’m not saying lock and load you should be ready to move beyond this, a coup has been successfully completed “mission accomplished”. all and any person in the position authority is the enemy – stop talking and act like you want freedom.
Pigs rule and the piglets love to have someone to tell what they should or should not do – wake up, there is NO peaceful way to reverse what these PIGS have done.
oK Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
yes there is.. and no one will have to do anything. period.
let them be what they want to be, only they will morn
the time is soon to be here, change now.
Believe.
Peace.
Defenderoftruth Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Save th Constitution! IMPEACH the LIAR!
centerbound Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:46 am
So what? AP made a mistake. His birth certificate was certified assholes.
centerbound Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:46 am
As if this site doesn’t make informational mistakes with EVERY crap story it puts out there.
'ren Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
centerbound, why in the world would the prez have sealed his birth records as his FIRST executive order if he was legit? ask your handler, she knows.
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
his cert of live birth was VOUCHED FOR by the governor of hawaii and the head of hawaii’s dept of health. the gov said she couldn’t release his long form because it has his social security number on it. can you spot the lie?
John T. Nessler Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I was born in 1960, I did’nt get a ssn# till I was 12, they did not give you one at birth a that time.
Mac-101 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:55 am
I was born in 1953 and didn’t get a SSN untill I got my first job legal job in 1968. You got a source for the Gov of Hawaii saying that he couldn’t release the birth certificate because of his SSN on it!
TEXAS IdentityCrisis Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Yep, I had to apply for mine at 15, to get a job!
Olive Farmer Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Actions speak louder than words:
Go here
Print up a hundred copies of this document
Put it where the SHEEPLE can read it
Stand well back:
http://olivefarmercrete.blogspot.com
Get these ignorant SHEEPLE to see their guilt.
Fonzi Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Spook is a racial slur.
John Galt Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Fonzi is a racial slur.
MattMan Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Ummmm, “Spook” is a term for a spy, or some other person using subterfuge (sp?) – You’re thinking of “coon” or maybe “Spick”. Basically we’re all calling him a LIAR and a THIEF – I don’t give a squirt of piss in a pond WHAT color his skin is…
StarinaNovak Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Jack Ryan’s wife, Jerry Lynn Ryan accused her husband of taking her to strange sex clubs and orgies.
Now, her maiden name was Zimerman.
After those statements, she was awarded numerous movie roles, inspite she was nothing close to actress.
On the side, Obama became US senator.
So, we can safely conclude it is wrong to have sex, while killing Afghan and Iraq civilians is right and everybody should do it.
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
StarinaNovak:
Hi, again! Jeri Ryan (please note the spelling of her “given” name) got her big break by playing “Seven of Nine” in “Star Trek: Voyager”. I might disagree, slightly, on her acting abiity.
Inasmuch as I have actually done some work as an “extra” in several different productions, including opposite Sir Anthony Hopkins (who, BTW, is quite a nice and pleasant person!) in “World’s Fastest Indian”, I should like to point out that the apparent talent of a performer is often constrained by: 1) The Director’s instructions; 2) The constraints of the nature of the part, as defined by the writer, before you even get to; 3) The talent of the performer. Admittedly, Ms Ryan is FANTASTIC “eye candy” (a “real knock out”, as we say, here in America), but I also think she played her “Star Trek” part quite well, considering the already mentioned limitations…
Her misfortune was to have married a self centered and perverted politician who obviously had no respect for either her nor himself, nor even for the political position he held: were I a wagering man, I would be willing to bet he married her strictly as a “trophy wife” to advance his political career. In this aspect, I think he was an utter fool and a complete idiot! Then again, I am one who believes that positions and honors come and go, but one marries “…for Time and All Eternity…”, and that “Families Are Forever”; your spouse is your “Eternal Companion”. An intelligent, honorable, and compassionate man does NOT treat an obviously beautiful and even moderately accomplished woman as if she were ONLY a sexual OBJECT…
StarinaNovak Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:15 am
They met in Las Vegas, where Jerry worked at Black Jack tables. She is an army bratt, and when her american parrent came to US, she went to Vegas, age 17.
Only reason I am mentioning her is that sex scandal actually pushed out Jack Ryan and brought in Obama as senator from Illionois.
4 years later, he is president.
Now, that is what I call shady bussines, especially because Obama used to work for Henry Kissinger, and we all know who he is.
He also received Nobel Peace prize for Vietnam war.
So, that looks like MO to me.
David Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Racist epithets only show your ignorance and discredit any valid points you may (but probably won’t ever) make. Furthermore, if you’re going to be racist why don’t you direct it towards the evil old men pulling Obama’s strings.. That would make more sense actually.
David
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Captain Ass-Jack, “SPOOK”, means Federal agent, or ‘G’-man.
Be BUTT-ST00PID, on your-own time.
ReturnFire Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Associated Press (AP) declared Obama Kenyan-Born 2004
watch?v=dy_qeXI0nUA
Gerri Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:36 am
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
“Natural-born citizen
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.”
rob base Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Pointing out that Obama may or may not be the legitimate POTUS is completely irrelevant & a complete waste of time.The people behind Obama are the same people who were behind 9/11, destruction of the $, Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Queda, Saddam, Pakistan, Euro & grotesque military budgets. This a worldwide, organized, diabolical plan that is now coming to fruition. The ‘leaders’ of the world are in place for a reason that will be made clear shortly but one thing is certain; Obama, Brown, Merkel, Berlusconi, Sarkhozy et al are intellectual midgets and those at the top of this plan are clearly far sighted, bright but incredibly immoral.
Channel your drive to overthrow and resist these bastards by not wasting time on irrelevancy.
MattMan Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Sad but I fear, true Rob – There’s no such thing as coincidence – or independence it seems
T Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:21 am
My question… why Obama? Why would they choose him? They clearly had to do a big cover up to cover his true birth country, why bother> Why not choose another lackey? I would like this answered, WHY OBAMA. Any thoughts, guys?
uh huh Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
good Simpsons reference!
Gary Coleman, also born in Kenya just like barry obongo
FULL AUTO Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
THIS COULD BE PUT ON MAINSTREAM TV AND IT WOULD NOT MATTER! THE US PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY BRAINWASHED !
October 16th, 2009 at 10:39 am
this is fake. kenya doesn’t exist. besides which, they mean the state of kenya. that’s what some indian tribes call kansas. nothignt o see here, let’s move on.
jerseygirl Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Oh yeah, right that’s “common knowledge” that some indian tribes call Kansas Kenya. EVERYONE WAS TAUGHT THAT IN SCHOOL, NOT!!! STOP GRASPING AT STRAWS! WHAT’S GOING TO CEASE TO EXIST IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! WHAT PROMPTED OBAMA’S GRANDPARENTS TO MOVE FROM KANSAS TO HAWAII????? MAYBE BECAUSE THEY NEEDED A COLB! HE, HIMSELF STATED IN 2004 THAT HE WAS BORN IN KENYA, IT WAS KENYA IN 1961. WHY DID HIS GRANDMOTHER, MADELYN DUNHAM VOLUNTEER TO WORK AT THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE IN HAWAII WHERE SHE DEALT WITH THE SS NUMBERS OF DECEASED PERSONS??? KIND OF STRANGE THAT OBAMA CURRENTLY HAS A SS NUMBER THAT WAS ISSUED IN CONNECTICUT, A PLACE THAT HE NEVER LIVED IN!!!! IT’S BEEN SAID THAT HE HAS USED AS MANY AS 39 DIFFERENT SS NUMBERS AND THAT THE CURRENT ONE WOULD PUT HIM AT 119 YEARS OLD! HE SURE LOOKS GOOD FOR 119! HE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY STATES THERE ARE IN THE US, 57 AS HE STATED???? LAST TIME I LOOKED THERE WERE 50!!!!!!
godbluff Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
ummm I think maelstrom was using sarcasm.
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
jeez i was just kidding. i agree, ok? i know all about fake ssn’s, this is an interesting development. just a joke. now what if i go to wikipedia and put {citation needed} right at the top line, the title of the entry for Kenya? Could someone prove Kenya exists?
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
jerseygirl:
Hi, again! The SS office job is an interesting point about Obama / Soetoro’s family background which I do not recall hearing about before. Let’s see, if one of the SS #’s he has would make him 119 years old, that means the original holder of the # would have been 45 years old when the SS System was begun in 1935. If multiple SS #’s can be proven, then ID Fraud is, as I mentioned before, an IMPEACHABLE offense. This also implies that Obama / Soetoro’s MATERNAL GRANDPARENTS may require further scrutiny! There are ALREADY some “interesting” questions being raised about the political leanings of the Dunham family, their connections to the NWO “heavyweights”, their “history” with Frank Marshall Davis (Obama /Soetoro’s biological father and first “mentor”: see “Contrarian Commentary” articles by a lawyer and commentator named Martin; it turns out that Obama, Senior was a “substitute father” when the late Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama / Soetoro’s mother, turned up “in a family way” by Davis, a Black member of the American Communist Party, who was already married to a white woman), and, as you point out, WHY the Dunhams moved from Kansas to Hawaii in the first place…
Mac-101 Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 3:05 am
Can ya give us any source for the SSN info and GrandMa working/volunteering in a SS ofice?
PS: Caps are hard to read for us ole people.
MAD DOG Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:50 am
THIS GUY HERE IS AN ASSHOLE
KICKED ME OFF HIS RON PAUL SITE FOR SAYING 4 MONTHS IN ADVANCE THAT RON PAUL WOUULD BAIL
AND HE DID.
HE HASNT A CLUE.
SPIRITBLADE Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Certainly, it takes one, to know one.
BUY A CLUE.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:39 am
People who don’t understand how to use Google shouldn’t make claims that it is “running flak”.
When you search with quotes, that is an EXACT MATCH of the phrase. Obviously, if the words “Kenyan-born US Senate” don’t appear precisely in that order, NO RESULTS WILL BE RETURNED.
If you remove the quotes -Kenyan-born US Senate- you’ll get a broad match against those words which will reveal more results. Google has operated like this for many years. It works the same way on every search.
It makes Infowarriors look crazy when they see conspiracies in technology that some people understand, but they do not.
BDTR Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Agreed.
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:58 am
google syntax is not accessible from the google front page. now that’s what i call a conspiracy
TRUTHWARRIOR Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:18 am
But doesn’t this article, in fact, include the exact phrase “Kenya-born U.S. Senate” in that exact order? What I’ll say is that I’ve run into similar issues (where an exact phrase put into quotes would not yield the correct results, but with the quotes removed the search would). Specifically this dealt with a similarly sensitive political issue from some months back. If you don’t think Google manipulates things a bit, you’re not paying very close attention. I don’t know enough about their internal operations to know whether in these specific cases there was manipulation involved, or just a basic sort of error.
TRUTHWARRIOR Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:18 am
I mean, “Kenyan-born U.S. Senate”…
E B Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:27 am
True. There are too many people here that take distrust to further and further extremes. They’re seeing things that aren’t there. You can spot them easily because they love to claim you don’t do any “research” i.e. google searches.
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
google doesn’t exist.
undtektid Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:37 am
use scroogle.org for your searches
Freedom isn't Free Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Agreed! Also, good name, you a William Gibson fan?
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
As far as “searches” are concerned, I generally use “Ixquick / Start Page”, and have been since just shortly before Alex started advertising them. I have noticed some slightly “strange” aspects of Google Searches, just before I switched, and have not had any problems, since…
October 16th, 2009 at 10:46 am
We got him. The truth always comes out. I think that if this news gets out that it will open up America’s eyes that they have been bamboozled and hopefully will cause them to investigate other major events(9/11 in particular).
October 16th, 2009 at 10:46 am
WE’RE DOOOOOOOM!!!!!!
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:58 am
eat hamburger
jerseygirl Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:26 am
EAT s---!!!!!!
JNewbieB Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:40 am
LOL!
MAD DOG Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:51 am
EVER BEEN TO SEA SIDE HTS ?
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
hamburger was so cache
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
MAD DOG:
Why do you ask about Seaside Heights? I’ve been there (it’s about 10 miles north of Barnegat Light), but it’s been quite a few years ago: my folks and grandparents used to go their regularly, particularly during the summer. After my folks moved to Florida, and we’d go back up to Jersey in the summer, and we’d sometimes go to Seaside Heights…
MAD DOG Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
WAS STATIONED AT NATTC IN LAKEHURST WHILE IN THE NAVY.
MAN WHAT PARTIES
October 16th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Barry Soetoro is not my president.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:51 am
I second that thought!!!!
Fonzi Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Then you’re unAmerican.
bullsh!t Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
why not call him a raciest or something Fonzi??
ass clown
unohoo Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
who is, UHHHH, wasn’t that the point of this article?
October 16th, 2009 at 10:48 am
if this doesn’t seal it nothing ever will. something big this way comes, hold on!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 10:50 am
WE’RE DOOOOOOM!!!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Well, if Barry can get away with it – So can Arnold!
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:59 am
they’ll say arnold was born at the us embassy in vienna, so he was born on american soil.
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:19 am
P L E A S E.
MAD DOG Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:52 am
DUMBASS
THAT DOESNT NATURALIZE YOU.
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
true, but they might be able to squeeze by with it
unohoo Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
please just shut up!
E B Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:29 am
VOTE FOR ME EEF YOU WANNNNT TO LEEEVEEE.
lord help us all Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:35 am
oh hell no, aint no way i would want him for a president!
October 16th, 2009 at 10:54 am
this evidence will be used in a court of law ….in the inpeachment
October 16th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Ya know, Dubya was a deserter. It was proven 15 different ways, but somehow mentioning his proven desertion put you in the moon bat category.
This story is the same way.
There will be no removal of the Kenyan from office based on his place of birth.
If you continue to pursue the story, it only hardens the idiotic Democrats to their cause.
Attacking Obama’s hypocrisy from the left is how he will be ousted in 2012, and hopefully it will be by a Grayson/Paul ticket.
I commend Alex from staying away from this loser of an avenue so far, and I feel it is a road best left untraveled.
jerseygirl Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Do you honestly think that there will be a 2012 election??? He’ll be DICTATOR BY THEN!!!! HAS CASTRO BEEN OUSTED??? HOW ABOUT CHAVEZ??? We’re facing the SAME FATE!
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
jerseygirl:
You have NAILED it, IF things keep going as they have been!
However, I personally believe we will be deep in ANOTHER AMERICAN REVOLUTION by then! As I see how FURIOUS the American people are becoming, I am thinking the rotary oscillator will come into contact with the Vigoro QUITE soon, perhaps before the New Year, but DEFINITELY before the summer begins. Unfortunately, I am too much the realist to entertain any hope that this will be a PEACEFUL Revolution: tyrants do NOT give up power VOLUNTARILY (it has NEVER happened in all human history!), AND they seem intent upon pushing the American people to the “blown gasket” point! They surely do NOT have too far to go, in fact, I am surprised the people haven’t “lost it” before now. If anyone sees something bright red and covered with hairy spikes, DON’T STEP ON IT, it’s the temper of the American People!…
October 16th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Wow, these birthers are at it again….HE WAS BORN IN AMERICA LET IT GO!!! Although he has done things we can all disagree with calling him a non american citizen is an insult to our presidential process….besides im sure SOMEONE checked before he got nominated…
rexmundi Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Wowww,
That’s like saying Dubya wasn’t a deserter because, “surely someone checked before he was elected”.
Dubya is a traitorous, torturing, deserter who completely f---ed over this country, and Obama is a Kenyan born, traitor, who is f---ing over our country.
Cha Cha Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Looks like the Republicans are at it again and will never put a nail on the coffin for as long as Obama is in office. Let it go.
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
you’re trapped in that false live/dead paradigm.
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:19 am
BULLs---.
woww sucks Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Obama is a lying thief. If he was real, he should show it. Don’t think this can’t get so big that it causes his re-election to fail.
Its fun to say “there’s nothing you can do about it” and “get over it”. He’s stealing a trillion dollars! He won’t get under that, even if he is half black. There will be a reckoning, and if he’s lucky, it’ll only be political. This country has a history, and there’s nothing you can do about that!
Even if your a commy, who doesn’t respect the country you live in, he won’t survive spitting on the flag.
He’s an Abomination. (and his wife is UGLY)
'ren Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
and she has thundertheighs too, woww sucks.
JohnDavid Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:33 am
If you believe our presidential elections are not fake than you need to do some research about the bilderburgers and there hand in picking the pres.
StarinaNovak Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:20 am
They, Bilderbergs, invited Obama to their annual meeting in 2008, and I knew he will be “elected” as next US president.
So much about US democracy, elections, your “vote” and that circuss that follows it.
They would not have him in Bohemian Grove, so Bilderbergs invited him for further instructions.
And that was secret meeting, and that is forbidden by Logan Act.
jerseygirl Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:37 am
How can you be SO SURE??? Do you have written proof of this, that SOMEONE checked? You’re partially correct. The DNC when nominating him as their candidate for the Presidency created 2 different copies to be sent to all 50 states declaring him as their candidate. The first stated that they found him “eligible” to run for POTUS. The second stated that they found him to be “legally eligible” under the Constitution of the United States to run for POTUS. BOTH were created by the same person and BOTH were signed by Nancy Pelosi. However, the copy that ALL STATES received was the copy simply stating that the DNC found him “eliglble” to run for POTUS, NOT LEGALLY ELIGIBLE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. I have seen these two different copies. Having a USURPER as President of the United States would be the REAL INSULT TO ALL LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS!
Sid Syd Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:41 am
I live in the UK. I don’t have a dog in this race. However, I’ve been listening to Phil Berg on Tarpley’s radio show for well over a year. Berg was filing suits before Obama won the democratic nomination. The DNC fought Berg at every stage. However, the simpliest way to have made Berg go away is produce a Birth Certificate. They haven’t been able to.
I don’t see how this
Sid Syd Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:50 am
press “submit” too soon…. I’ll continue
I don’t see how “calling him a non american citizen is an insult to our presidential process.” I would say that a candidate not producing a Birth Certificate is a bigger insult.
Birthers beware. Be careful what you wish for. This could be a perfect excuse re-visit and finally rip up the constitution.
The biggest issue of all is why WE have birth certificates. If you have one it means you are a slave. If you don’t believe me watch this…
http://www.tpuc.org/content/jo.....n-2-london
tareesa Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Even if he was born in the US, it doesn’t change the FACT that his mother changed his citizenship to Indonesia, he even had a passport issued from that country. (You have to surrender your American passport to get one from a different country.) There is also the FACT that he was awarded the Fulbright Scholarship, which is only awarded to the foreign born, aka non-us citzens.
I agree that sometimes people on here go way off the deep end. But this is not some random conspiracy, this is all well documented evidence. Much of this info was even on his A&E “Biography” that ran right after he gave his infamous Democratic convention speech in ‘04.
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
you’re a little bit off on the facts, but basically right as far as I can tell.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:56 am
WTF
I suspected the birthers may have been right, but I thought they were being silly.
Now we’ve got concrete proof … but you can be sure it’ll be dismissed as racist by the State Media.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:58 am
GET HIM OUT! GET HIM OUT! GET HIM OUT!
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:20 am
HE’S OUT.
HELL, HE NEVER WAS IN.
OH…I THOUGHT YOU MEANT HEAVEN.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:58 am
does it matter? you are on the list
the coffins are ready
unless you stop this apathy!
nono, don’t go on the streets, please!
look for things they aren’t prepared for
logic they do not posses
An American voice Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:17 am
STFU
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I THINK HE MEANS WELL
I THINK HE IS SAYING OUT THINK THEM.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:02 am
So, What’s Everyone in America and D.C. Waiting For ???
Throw the f---ING Kenyan-Born Bastard OUT OF OFFICE !!!
Bottom Line, Because HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!
WHAT OTHER KIND OF PROOF DOES ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND NEED ???
THROW THE f---ING Kenyan-Born Osama Bin Obama OUT OF OFFICE !!! PERIOD !
JUST THE f---ING FACTS ! I DON’T GIVE A RAT’S ASS IF ANYONE BRINGS UP THE
f---ING RACE CARD ! HE’S NOT f---ING QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT – PERIOD !
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:22 am
THROW HIM OUT,
CAUSE HE’S A FUDGEHEAD.
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I LIKE THE WAY YOU MADE THE DISTINCTION
AMERICA_____ …FROM …___DC.
john Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:45 am
prove it, this is all conjecture. he won the nobel peace prize for [citation needed]. also, do you think his impeachment will result in a massive improvement in the whitehouse? i don’t. biden is the vice-president i believe, the machine rages on…
October 16th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Check & Mate!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Man, this is HUGE!!!!! We need to have a Tienneman (sp) Square style protest outside whatever federal court this case is before, a HUGE freaking protest, a million man march for real!! Or maybe just have it at the Supreme Court. Open for suggestions.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:13 am
The globalists are slapping us in the face with de facto abolishment of nationality.
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am
THEY ARE _______________S C U M
October 16th, 2009 at 11:13 am
he is a lie.
HE IS A LIE
HE IS A LIAR
HIS WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE.
LIE.
LIAR.
FUDGEHEAD.
FOOL.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:15 am
even if (big if) he was thrown out of office as head of un security council what ya think he would instate with all those un troops stationed here? just saying
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:33 am
he will follow orders.
He will tell the u.s. people, that they are here to “help”
till things get back to “normal”
_______________________________
those foreigners, will long for home
they will beg to be let out.
and there will be no exit.
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
onetufffeatherboa:
Some of us have already thought of that possibility, and we would NOT put it past him! If he pulls THAT sort of stunt his TREASON will be OBVIOUS to all but the most BRAIN DEAD! Then it really DOES all hit the fan! The trial on his citizenship issue occurs in January. If they do NOT find in Obama / Soetoro’s favor, he would likely “request” UN “Peacekeepers” when citizen protesters show up on Pennsylvania Avenue in early February. That would start the Revolution sometime in the dead of winter: interestingly appropriate phrase – “DEAD of winter”…
free me:
There will be NO exit: but DEATH! To paraphrase Kipling: “When you’re wounded and left on America’s plains, and the women come out to cut up your remains, just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains, and go to your god like a soldier!”
October 16th, 2009 at 11:16 am
We are not doomed. Things will just be different. We will have a king who is righteous. YAHSHUA!!!!!!!!!
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:26 am
SPEAK AMERICAN.
_
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_s m i l e
October 16th, 2009 at 11:17 am
There are a few problems with this story. The archived page they are talking about from the East African Standard for Sunday, June 27th doesn’t have an author… It simply says -AP… Every news article form the AP cites the author (I just contacted the AP at 212-621-1500 and spoke with Jack Sproge). Secondly if you hit home on that page it brings you to what is supposed to be the next day Monday, however it’s “Monday, June 26th 2004″ That day never existed. June 26h was a Saturday, the following Monday was the 28th. I hate Obama’s policies, and what he is doing to this nation, but we have to have concrete evidence, not shady, possibly falsified. If we want to do this we have to do it right or we will just be annihilated by the Nazis in Washington DC. We have to do better guys!
Tren Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Good catch, good points, Bob. However, I don’t think it will be possible to “do better” as even the U.S. Supreme Court has shot down any attempts into discovery. This sort of article is likely going to be as close as we get to a verifiable source due to all the intentional confusion created around Obama’s origins.
Bob Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Tren, I see where you’re coming from, however, If we can’t do better, we can’t do anything at all. This will prove nothing, it is substantial at best. With no author and having it scrubbed it will be written off as being photoshopped. The more questionable evidence we gather the more they have to show us grasping at straws. Every bit of shady evidence discredits us and our cause… we really need something concrete!
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Lets just tell Him to exit.
Cp Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Also the ad in the upper right corner ’screams’ freemason. Compas, ruler, all seeing eye. Very possible hoax.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:25 am
“So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Enough already!
Everyone knows that he wasn’t born in the US but you must also realize that he will ABSOLUTELY NEVER BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE OVER THIS TECHNICALITY.
There isn’t a judge with big enough balls to decide against him as that would essentially be his death sentence.
Not only that,every major city in the US would burn to the ground and make the uprisings in the sixties seem like a love fest.
Aint gonna happen,get used to it.
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:36 am
NEVER GET USED TO TYRANNY
DO NOT GET USED TO A MASTER ON EARTH.
THAT WOULD BE PATHETIC.
FranCisco d Nostromo Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
“everyone knows that he(B.H.O.) wasn’t born in the US”.
The question of his birth is the main focal point of millions.
The truth is, but is not; but needs to be.
When one bowls, one should use balls of the appropriate size and weight required to knock down the pins.
Are we to believe there are NO Judges who are great bowlers?
lastly,
Please, do not imply that people in black skins will refute the TRUTH,
just because it is printed on white paper.
Cisco d
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
dave:
Alex Jones and I have a common Welsh heritage.
Have you ever heard the song, “Men of Harlech?” It is an old Welsh battle hymn which dates back over 600 years. In the last line of the chorus, one translation (used in the movie “Zulu”) renders as “Welshmen NEVER yield!”
I also suspect that the writer of the science fiction comedy, “Galaxy Quest” was also Welsh: the “tag line” of the movie is “Never Give Up; Never Surrender!”
In short, we Welshman are TOUGH old birds, that are as STUBBORN as you can get! Although it is a little known fact, a lot of Welshmen are also Ephraimites: check out “Ephraimites” in the Bible, and you will find out just how stubborn EPHRAIMITES are!
NO! Obama is NOT my legal, Constitutional, President: he was born in Mombasa, Kenya (and name, Barack Hussein Obama, Junior, making him a British Subject, by virtue of his birth in the British Crown Colony of Kenya); was “naturalized” a citizen of Indonesia (when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro as a child), and there is NO WAY he could EVER be a Constitutionally legal, President of the United States. He also BOTCHED the swearing in, TWICE: he has NOT been legally sworn in as President of the United States! This opinion is also shared by Ambassador Alan Keyes, who IS Constitutionally qualified to be President, and whom I supported for that office in both 1996 and 2000: Ambassador Keyes IS, by the way, several shades BLACKER than Obama / Soetoro! Obama / Soetoro is a TOTALLY and Constitutionally ILLEGAL USURPER and ILLEGAL ALIEN (with NO proof that he was ever “naturalized” from his Indonesian Citizenship, having traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian Passport at age 19, according to HIS OWN ADMISSION in one of his OWN BOOKS!), who, it appears, is NOT EVEN QUALIFIED TO VOTE, much LESS hold ANY American political office!
StarinaNovak Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:21 am
You can impeach him for breaching Logan Act.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:38 am
As much as I would LOVE for this article and its sources to be true and valid, sadly they are not. The “Kenyan Standard Times” is obviously fake. Just take a few moments and click around in it and you will see what I mean. The dates are all off, most links are broken, what content that is there is repeated in different areas, it looks like an assigment from a student in Graphic Arts school.
Phail!!
Don’t be so quick to believe everything you read/see. Do your research. It’s silly assumptions and blind faith that give “us” a bad name and discredit “our” messages and movements.
bullsh!t Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
wow you really are an idiot!!
this article comes from the “east african standard online edition” not the “kenyan standard times”. You should really practice what YOU preach and do some better research.
Your life = Fail
October 16th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Will this be in the US media ever ? No ! Do most people who can’t think for themselves or read ever know about his ? No ! Do most people in that little busy mind of there’s even care ? No ! Does your corperation choose to save you instead of the immigrant, contractor or sending work out to another country ? No ! Just bear in mind that today’s world is no longer to be questioned. What’s right and moral does no longer apply. Going Global means being able to manipulate law as they please under any circumstance to there benefits, always. Therfore, Obama being born in Kenya no longer means anything. They have changed all the rules and we are slowly swallowing it whole and accepting everything before us. So what can you expect from this ? People are very easy to manipulate and no one knows more about this then the evil people themselves who are pulling all the f---ing strings. Get it ? This is why they do it, because they can and because they do not fear the oridnary people. Did you ever imagine in your life time that waging WAR would be seen as a good thing ? Who’s invading who ? Who’s army is in which countries ? Can’t you see what’s going on ? Nothing makes anymore sense. Lately, Obama wins the Noble peace prize for God’s sake. How can this be seen as normal thing ? Under what circumstance does this puppet merit the Noble peace prize ? Has anybody tried to stop it, No !
October 16th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Bob, the home page says Monday JULY 26th, not June.
http://web.archive.org/web/200.....efault.htm
October 16th, 2009 at 11:40 am
everyone needs to read Gerri’s reply….it’s always good to read as many of the replies as you can before you post.
Makes sense to me Gerri
October 16th, 2009 at 11:40 am
What else would we expect. These people have hi jacked our republic. And we sit here and debate thier takeover of our government , comprimising our culture every step of the way . They are all enemies of the state incarcerating our people at an alarming rate. At some point a breaking point will occur , but how many of the true patriots will remain free to resist their destruction ? The “Wake Up ” movement has been kidnapped by the mainstream media. The attacks are at every turn. I hope we all enjoy the two tier healthcare folks. Welcome to the haves and the have nots.
roaddog6 Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
and we accept this……
October 16th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Tren, some links are broken because this is an archived webpage. The existing one was deleted, so this is just a copy that was found by a googlebot or whatever they’re called.
Bob Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Don, I wish it was that simple, however this site is jacked. Seriously jacked. Too little information not about this story but in general. Try searching bush… that man was in office for 8 years and the whole world hated him. Theoretically if you search his name you would get alot of crap on him or atleast one storry… there is no search result at all… infact, I can’t find anything that the search function will bring up, it just says
“No archived versions of the page you requested are available. If the page is still available on the Internet, we will begin archiving it during our next crawl.
You may want to:
Search for all pages on the site hostingtoolbox.com/
Try a different page address, at top”
I’ve tried searching big political names, colors, infact every word i put in there comes back blank… even the name of the site itself.. Standard search reveals the same thing… This is a Hoax plain and simple. Wisht it wasnt, but it is!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:44 am
THE WAR FOR YOUR MIND IS ON!!!
Wow propaganda and fear mongering at its finest. What a bs article. No substance, nothing cited, just one carefully constructed sentence designed to incite panic. And people will watch it oh so carefully for any updates.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,567680,00.html
*biting nails* Oh whatever arte we going to do???????
October 16th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Can someone help to confirm this or put this quote to bed? The ‘So what?’ comment about being born out of state would seem to provide evidence on Obama admitting his birth status. I want to see the debate trascript or video of this conversation. A lot of this information is circular and never actually gets to the real facts of the matter. I have tried to find this debate and have not been able to.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Do the search yourself.
Go to:
http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html
Enter:
eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm
Click on Jun 27, 2007
Viola
October 16th, 2009 at 11:53 am
The link to web.archive area housing the old article comes up as garbage — looks like its either been encrypted or my browser’s broken
October 16th, 2009 at 11:55 am
“IN EVERY WAY ORGANIZE NOW”
Ladies and gentlemen of the JURY!
As you know, this is a CRIMINAL proceeding against the defendant:
B.H.O. not a civil complaint.
eveplebeodious.blogspot.com
Cisco d
October 16th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Hmm, it works for me, but I’ll try to copy & paste it again.
http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html
Arrius Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
This does not link to any confirmable source that speaks about Obama admitting to not being born in the US.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Obama is an impostor, liar, deceiver, usurper, traitor. And if you think not you are a sucker.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
We must be very late in Biblical Prophetical History, for
The United States Population of over 300 Million People to just stand
by and do nothing about this Insanity.
Either they are drugging everyone all across the land, or else they
are using some type of Harpe Advanced Mind Control Electronic’s on
the whole population. Every where you look, people just seem to
be walking around like they are in a zombie type state of mind, not
really caring about anything. It’s just too strange for words….
Jakk Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
I totally agree about people being blind to the world and seeming like zombies.
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:02 am
9.th1:
My friend, have you not been paying attention?
“Either they are drugging everyone all across the land…” It’s not really difficult to understand: have you not heard of fluoride? It was used by the Nazis in the Death Camps to make sure the “prisoners” were kept docile. We get it in our water, along with stuff to make us sterile and other things which we also get in vaccines to make us unhealthy. Sick people are often feeling so completely LOUSY that they are unconcerned about ANYTHING other then getting well, again!
Try looking at 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12, especially, verse 11. Sounds familiar?
October 16th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Just the sheer fact that Obama’s team has spent almost $2,000,000 already to keep his birth certificate under wraps should tell the masses something. All he has to do is show it, so why is he paying multi millions to keep it out of the public eye? $hit, we the people now have to show it along with our SS cards just to get our Driver’s License Picture, as I had to go though last week due to work being driving related. Obama, WHERE IS YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE? NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, INCLUDING A WARMONGER LIKE YOURSELF AND YOUR MASTERS, THE INTL BANKERS!!! YOU’LL GET WHAT YOU DESERVE!!!
free me Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
—————————THEY ARE HIDING THE TRUTH
AS THEIR LIES ARE PROMOTED
_____________________BY FRONT MEN, FOOLS
___AND IGNORANT TALKING HEADS.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
hes mexican i can feel it
October 16th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Interesting. The information is out there…just have to search for it. Ask questions.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I found that article and submitted to a person who emailed it in to this site. I guess I didn’t want my website to be attacked more than it already has been, so I did not post it on my site. I have been threatened daily.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
I have a copy of the Birth Certificate!! How do I get it published, or to Alex Jones? Please help. I have an authentic copy. I need to get this out to as many people as possible!! Please help me do this!
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:06 am
I believe the e-mail is:
writers@infowars.com
That should get it somewhere useful…
largejack Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
How did you come by an authentic copy of his birth certificate ?
Spikeman Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
I don’t think that is as important, as what the certificate says.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
3. In October of 2004, during the ABC Chicago Affiliate’s broadcast of the Obama-Keyes debates, Obama openly admitted — he conceded — that he was not a natural born citizen. (C-Span aired the uncut version of the debates, which contained this exchange, in the second half of April, 2005)
Here is the ABC Chicago Illinois state senator debate between Keyes and Obama… (length 1 hour)
October 21, 2004(C-Span archives)
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/vid.....d=184058-1
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
LOL BUSTED
Arrius Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Did anyone else actually watch this video? I sat through the whole debate listening for this exchange and it never happens. Anyone care to speak to this or provide a real source that shows this supposed exchange?
Marc Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I watched the video posted above , and did not hear Obama admit he was not a natural born citizen or even talk about that topic ? Does this video contain that information or is it in another uncut version ?
October 16th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
The fulbright scholarship is available to both U.S. college students and foreign students. It is an exchange program. Which did he get?
maelstrom Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
over a year ago now some noises were being made he got student aid for foreigners to attend a US university. I have no idea.
October 16th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
O SHOOT!!! Damn the evidence! Play the race card. Quick!
October 16th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Does this mean that he’s out and Pelosi’s in? OMG!
October 16th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
If this is true and other info like continues to come out, it is a matter of time before we a false-flag event to distract the people away from this info.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
To be short and simple.The defecation shall hit the rotary oscillator on this one but watch the news media will work the most brilliant damage control to smooth this one over.Any one pushing this story will be labeled a terrorist or a racist. EVER HEARD OF A TRUTHIST.Dont gloat too early we have yet to see the sick genius of this administration at its best.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
someone hack his teleprompter and make him say off-the-wall things oops oh wait too late i guess
October 16th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Here we go again. The Associated Press (AP) has published previous articles and investigations that Obama (Mmm, Mmm, Mmm) is not born citizen of the US, rather naturalized maybe, and therefore not eligible to run for or be elected as President of the US.
There is a clear and easy way for this to be determined once and for all that should satisify the doubts of all. And that is for him to produce an authentic birth certificate. McCain did it for his medical records and Bush did it for his Natioal Guard service. Even Kerry produced the medals he threw away years earlier.
For 3M not to do so in the midst of this controversy, is tantamount to hiding the true fact that he isn’t a native born American Citizen.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
THIS JUST IN! AP GETS THEIR FACTS WRONG!
Wow, you guys are suddenly acting as though the AP is the end all of news sources…
Remember, they are run by the same idiots. They sometimes get things wrong, and I think this is one of those times..
Web Weevil Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 5:54 am
Yep A.P. & Reuters is organs of ye olde Rockefeller
October 16th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
October 26 is fast approaching.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Interesting bit of code in the source explaning the archive statis. I’m not sure what country The Standard is in, but the time stamp on line 346 is about 5 hours from now. What the hell is going on here, and where was this article hiding since 2004?
345 // FILE ARCHIVED ON 20040627142700 AND RETRIEVED FROM THE
346 // INTERNET ARCHIVE ON 20091016183601.
347 // JAVASCRIPT APPENDED BY WAYBACK MACHINE, COPYRIGHT INTERNET ARCHIVE.
348 // ALL OTHER CONTENT MAY ALSO BE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT (17 U.S.C.
349 // SECTION 108(a)(3)).
Voice of the Republic Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:17 am
fallout2023:
What time zone are you in? If you are in the United States, 5 hours forward will probably hit no farther east than Greenwich, England: far short of where it SHOULD be! Eastern Africa is a few hours farther East. Anything else doesn’t cut it…
October 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Honolulu Advertiser unedtited article archived cached here:
http://74.6.239.67/search/cach.....;type=page
Way to go mel! Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
This article says Obama is “Indonesian born”.
This just gets better by the minute!
All I ever heard him admit to is being born on planet Krypton (thanks, Obama Deception).
Little Bobby Gibbs is the one who keeps saying he was born in Hawaii.
Did anyone else check mel's link Reply:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
To me, this article is more damning then the Standard Times.
It’s (seems to me) to be prima facia evidence in several areas
It mentions Obama by name and the school he attended.
“Indonesian born” is not natural born U.S. born. (ok a given).
It is from a Honolulu Newspaper, who would by all rights want to trumpet the fact the Obama was born in Hawaii. (hometown boy makes good, you know). {Yes, I said boy, I suppose that makes me a racist} to beat the band! but they didn’t.
Could the reporter have been that shoddy researching the biographical data?
And it really isn’t an Obama article, it mentions him in passing only.
The fact is, it doesn’t matter whether it’s Kenya, or Indonesia or Krypton, the salient point is it’s NOT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
The worst of it is, true or not, it probably won’t matter one lick.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
OH s---!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
LMAO
October 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Can anyone actually point to a video or a reputable transcript that shows Obama admitting to not being born in the US? Someone above has posted a CSPAN video proporting to have the exchange mentioned in the article but after watching the video I can say that exchange is not in there. Perhaps I missed this contentious exchange but given the overall tone of the debate such a volley is out of place and it seems to me most likely a fabrication.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS REFORM OUR VOTING PROCESS nOT HEALTHCARE
October 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
GAME OVER!!!!! GAME OVER!!!!! GAME OVER!!!!!!! (But ONLY IF, we FORCE the game to be over by flooding congress and the senate with the “DETAILED FACTS” of this (AP) story. Please, all the true infowarriors on here (not the gov.’t shills) don’t waste your precious time and energy attacking the “shills” or each other. That’s time you need for e-mailing your congressmen and two senators. Tell them all the facts of this 2004 newspaper story; like the fact that Obama HIMSELF (from his own mouth!!!!) stated in the campaign debate for the Illinois Senate, “SO WHAT!”, (to the fact he was NOT born in the U.S.) “I’m not running for President.” That’s not just the “SMOKING GUN” on this issue, it’s the “smoking CANNON”!!!!!!!!! Tell your congressmen and senators that now that they have this knowledge, they in-effect have been served–Legal “NOTICE”, and now by law, MUST investigate/hold impeachment hearings. DEMAND that they follow the law/Constitution in this matter, and REMIND THEM THEY HAVE A DUTY TO DO THIS AND THEY TOOK AN OATH TO ACT WHEN THEY HAVE THIS TYPE OF “Notice.” I know that writing your congress persons can seem futile, but in this case, with this issue, I think we have to give it a try. What else to do(?) The Senate is the only body who can “finally” vote to impeach Obama. He’s not going to admit he’s a liar and resign. And the MSM, still isn’t going to even mention this “smoking cannon” that pretty much proves the Birther’s argument. The MSM is dead to us; and in fact are nothing more than “mind-contollers” for the globalists, thus criminal conspiracists in their own right. (We’ll deal with them later, after we’ve stopped and severely punished the fascist globalists. The MSM owners, editors, and the talking-heads, will meet their demise in turn!!!) Let’s all try to keep our Hearts’ in the right place, and our Spirits up! Bless You All
October 16th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
well, now that there is some official proof: it’s a race between whether the civilians or the military will throw this fascist out of office. the military has openly talked about it in the last few weeks (their duty to uphold the Constitution and remove anyone (like “obama”) who trample all over it). We all know what will happen WHEN the military takes over. Yet, I think we are all still to spineless to do anything before the “big bad ass killing machine” does.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
This is news? He was introduced as Kenyan-born by one of the national news casters right before he gave the electrifying most speech of his life at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Alan Keyes also made comments about his foreign born status during a senatorial debate that were NOT denied by Obama.
A question: If a foreign born citizen can not be elected president, why are they legally able to run for the house of representatives? Isn’t the speaker of the house in line for the presidency if the President and Vice President both die in office?
October 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Is anyone even bothering to, if not verify the information themselves, at least acknowledging that someone else (me) has pointed out this source doesnt contain the material attributed to it?
Again, can someone show a video of Obama saying this?
October 16th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
You losers get a life ALL HAIL OBAMA~~~~
October 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Speaking of presidents, what happened to Alex Jones’s film about JFK? I was looking forward to it. Maybe the Lamar Waldron-Hartman book made him change his mind.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Look closely at the story – The Chi Trib got a judge to release sealed records – sound familiar?? that Ryan and his wife visited clubs. No sex or misbehavior by the man . Besides , with a wife like 7 of 9 – who would want to leave the house?? Appears to me Ryan was already behind and that the machine finished him off .
October 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
to all the idiots claiming barry is naturalized, do your damn research! naturalized is NOT the same as natural born, geez figure it out. mccain was not even a natural born citizen either because the base he was born on was not u.s. property, more like borrowed land, to make it simple. doesn’t matter cuz Ron Paul is my president for life.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
So it is said that his mother is an American born in Kansas. Well, maybe she was, but she hopped around the globe more than she hopped around the U.S. After all, the gov. is saying Barack was born in Hawaii. I don’t believe the mother was on American soil at the time of Barack’s birth. Therefore you can’t just very well believe that his mother gave birth to Barack on American soil when she was so busily globe trotting. No one knows what to believe. How can you prove to me that his mother is a natural born citizen (by a birth certificate, that to could be fabricated). Here is the proof that Barack is not a natural born citizen. He can not bring his way of thinking and his ideal way of running a country here in America because his policies are very un-American. It just doesn’t make sense.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Why is this not in court? the presidency has been hi-jacked
October 16th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
yeah -why is he still the pRez????????????????Republicans should be jumping up and down………….everyone ask there legislators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHY??????????????????
October 16th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
My sister was born while my parents were stationed in Italy i hope she never runs for president, Alex would be all over her!
October 16th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
All this does not matter, what matters is are you going to refresh the tree of liberty! What’s done is done.
October 16th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
This crook is not a natural born us citizens and he’s sending our soldiers to their deaths. Can’t wait to see this guy go to trail for fraud, treason and crimes of humanity. After the trail, it will be okay to have one last cigarette!
October 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
This crook is not a natural born us citizen and he’s sending our soldiers to their deaths. Can’t wait to see this guy go to trail for fraud, treason and crimes of humanity. After the trial, it will be okay to have one last cigarette!
It’s getting late. Time to sign off.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
If they are satanists….devils….then what are we???
October 16th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
REPENT now
October 17th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Out of the Darkness a dim light appears. impeach, arrest, hang. Then proseed with the rest of the criminal goverment. Local, State, And federal. The Banksters will be easy to clean up just let them swim back to there Dear old England.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:11 am
Todays my B-day and this story was the best gift I could get. THX INFOWARS!
October 17th, 2009 at 3:03 am
It should be noted that on January 8, 2006, the Honolulu Advertiser also reported that Barack Hussein Obama was born outside the United States.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser......80334.html
Well. It aint there any more.
Heavy Chains Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
yeah, all that’s there is a bogus looking retraction stating that they goofed. Man, who’s the real liar him or his grandmother?
October 17th, 2009 at 3:33 am
As Bat 890 stated. The big question to this story was the Chicago Judge who unsealed the Divorce Court Procedures was authorised to do so over the objections of both parents against the wellfare of the child!
Also, someone needs to show how George Soros had a dozen or two family members funnel mast amount of money into President Obama’s Senate campaign, and the connection between Rohm Emannuel, George Soros, Ari Emanuel, Michael Moore! Also the CIA connections of Bush I, II, Clinton, and President Obama need to be fully explored!
And if the JFK assasination was revealed it would blow the doors off the entire American political system.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:43 am
My father who is now passed away, was an avid follower of politics and trends. Years ago, I specifically remember hearing Obama speak from the Senate on occasion, and remember saying to my father that I thought Obama would eventually become a future president. My father responded saying that Obama can’t ever be president because he was not born in America.
I remember how this stuck in my mind durring the election and I always wondered about it, giving credit to my father who was rarely, of ever wrong on such matters. It sure makes me wonder why can’t Obama provide an original birth certificate, since there are so many other people asking the same question: how does someone with a previously acknowledged, foreign born track record, suddenly become US born?
I guess it’s as easy as one, two, three, same as getting a fake bill of sale for a stolen vehicle, or an assumed identity for a false ID driver’s license.
America today reminds me of a stolen car from a chop shop, that’s on the road with a fake vin no. and I don’t know how we’ll ever get it back. I guess this is the “new” American way, where he who has the ability and connections, can get what ever they want. But, I still suspect the NWO ringleaders are holding this as a wild card, that depending upon the outcome and possible disasters with plan A, may switch to plan B and reveal Obama is not native born, to justify his removal from office, along with any jackpot legislation that turns their wagon sour. Afterall, they are attempting to rewire the entire planet, as if during a very brief thaw of the north passage, as America sleeps.
I do not like the way this is being done with all the jagged icebergs that place this nation at great risk, as we get turned into a foreign country to the delight of global planners with a pipe dream. But, that appears to be the elite contest we are all watching, whether anyone realizes it or not; can Obama get through the northern pass and overthrow the US Constitution??? – my best guess is, only if hype and global warming will allow it and so the Gods day nap and look the other way, but it is known.
October 17th, 2009 at 4:21 am
Furthermore, I can only surmise that if Obama and his cohorts are successful, that by default alone, America is no longer a heritage rooted sovereign nation held together by it’s Constitution or any other laws on the books for that matter. That is, if Obama is successful, it represents the end of this nation, as an aspect of the global transformaion. What court can we turn to and it’s like attempting to sue a business for money owed, after it’s been liquidated, but falsely advertised and accepted as a seasonal sale.
October 17th, 2009 at 8:28 am
cry me a river lol
October 17th, 2009 at 10:22 am
It’s always the same, and now besides the mass media covering things up, you have search engines being cleaned up. This site, INFOWARS, is OUR TOWER, and WE MUST RAISE IT HIGHER THAN ANY THING ELSE ! Whether we buy DVD’s,T shirts, memberships, and, or moneybombs, we must load this TOWER with capital to send OUR MESSAGE OUT. Bang for buck, this site is the best chance we have to inform others. THE TRUTH SHALL SET US ALL FREE.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Ok . . . now you know what most of us already knew . I don’t want a ” I’m sorry ” or ” You were right ” … So , as of right now , The United States of America doesn’t have a President .
Web Weevil Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 5:57 am
so….. Why don’t we all have another election and elect a “true President”,
then the two “Presidents” can slug it out in front of the American People
…… and the courts !
October 17th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
So do the people moderating these comments actually want video footage of this “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency” remark or not?
For the third time I’m attempting to post a comment here requesting that somebody help me find this footage so I or they can post it to my video-sharing site.
The previous two comments were not approved.
I am not trying to pimp my site here, I simply want this footage available for all to see on the internet; I wouldn’t remove the video like youtube etc. would.
I pay for the domain, I pay for hosting, I’m not asking for anything aside from a little help locating this footage. I’ve mentioned that the footage may be on CSPAN’s Illinois Senate Debate archive at http://www.c-spanvideo.org/vid.....004+debate
I’m trying to go through it all, but I can’t do it all myself. If anyone can find this comment by Obama, please upload it to my site or simply tell me the link to the video containing it and the point in the video when he says it and I will capture the video and post it myself.
If this issue is as important as infowars and some others seem to suggest, I don’t understand why my comments are not being approved…
Arrius Reply:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 am
Geoffrey, I watched the debate quoted as containing this exchange between Keyes and Obama and it never occurs. If someone else has a video showing this they need to speak up. So far this looks like an urban myth.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Winston Smith better get to work quickly on this and vaporize it !
October 17th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Yeah if we could at least get the audio of that “So what” comment, it would be a major coffin nail. BTW I wonder how much he got for selling his senate seat….
October 17th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Someone must have posted a contact link for AP but just in case here it is again
http://www.ap.org/pages/contact/contact.html
October 17th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Why isn’t this in court? How do we enforce and maintain this crucial law? You better believe the answer lies with us regular folks. We won’t get the answer out of those shadowy overlords at the other end of Obama’s puppet strings….
October 17th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Infowars deleted my comment about working together to solve issues. This site is a joke and censors free speach just as much as those tyrants they fight against.
October 17th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Stop censoring my comments you f---ing scumbags!
October 17th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Again the comment wasn’t approved. You approve the comments from people who say “first”, but when I try to get people working together to locate this video footage of Obama in the 2004 debate with Alan Keyes, forget about it.
Is this some kind of sick joke, or what?
I offer to host the video at my own expense, is that not enough? I’m looking for it myself, not good enough? Shall I slit my wrists so I can feed you with my life force?
Just listening to The Alex Jones Show and saying “yea, f--- the NWO!!” isn’t enough you lazy bastards, at least TRY to find this video footage.
Or just keep bitching about Obama not being eligible and doing NOTHING about it…
October 17th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Well, the offer still stands. Find the video and I’ll host it. I’ll also host other videos that youtube has deleted for political purposes.
It’s a public service, so I won’t beg for support, but if you all continue to do NOTHING then NOTHING will change.
Or post on youtube and then bitch when it gets deleted, seems that’s all you’re good for anyway…
October 17th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
So the Goombah in cheif even used Chicago style tactics to get his first senate seat… cook up a scandal for his opponant until the guys drops out and he wins right out in “a landslide”.
Obama is such a jerk.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
That Honolulu newspaper link says
“CORRECTION: A correction on this story was published on Sunday, Jan. 15, 2006: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. A Page One story last Sunday contained incorrect information about his birthplace.”
Was this there before?
October 17th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
i say we fight back, those f---ers are going to wreck us. the money that obama used to run for presidency is from the middle east and russia, the governers of our states are the only ones that can start a fight. we msut back them, obama msut be impeached and we must take back what is ours, dont let foriegn money control our lives!!!! jion the militia or national guard, lets fight for what is ours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 17th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
The following site has verified and found many of these claims invalid or minimally suspicious in their origin. SNOPES has been my source tracking the accuracy of rumors and so far has been right on target. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/
Geoffrey Reply:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Well, if Barbara and David P. Mikkelson say something on their site Snopes, it MUST be factual, even if there are documents proving otherwise…
October 18th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Trust me, I wish some of this was truly provable and as such could be used to impeach and bring a halt to the madness he is introducing to Washington. Read through and see if I missed anything…even the AP story seems to be fabricated! Hang in there, where there is smoke there is usually a fire to follow…
Geoffrey Reply:
October 18th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Well, I trust Snopes (Barbara and David P. Mikkelson) just about as much as I trust Obama; which is to say NOT AT ALL!
They are on the DNC payroll, their site is tainted with the stench of lies and disinformation.
October 18th, 2009 at 4:36 am
In November 2004 story about Obama becoming the sole
“black” Senator elected in 2004 the BBC News stated that:
Barack Obama, who last visited his Kenyan home in 1992,
is regarded as a potential presidential candidate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wor.....977739.stm
October 18th, 2009 at 4:59 am
oops URL:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html
October 18th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Why do other stories from the archive on the same day list attributions below their headlines while this story merely shows “-AP” in bold at the bottom of the story? I could not find another story with a similar attribution.
October 18th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Obama is from Mars !
Alex is a Jesuit spy and his friend Charlie aka Carlos is a Jesuit spy too.
And 911 is an inside job —- and JFK ( Jesuit ) was inside job too…boo hooo….
October 19th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Have posted that Andrew Jackson was also not a “Citizen” (as per ‘Gerris’ postings). He was born at sea and illegally changed his birth-date to become President, meaning he meets NO requirement to be a U.S. citizen. Also, consider the plain FACT Obama was granted a “Fullbright” scholarship which is only given NON-Americans. Why follow fools down rabbit-holes anyway? Let’s just ignore him and – as his “Oprah” ratings fade – so will this wabbit.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
It doesn’t matter where he was born. The thing which DOES matter is that his mother was a US citizen. The laws in question relative to his being born outside the US allowed his mother to bring him back, prove that she bore him by documentation, then the US Customs and Immigration would allow her to claim US citizenship for him. All this stuff is on the web, one just has to search and read. The matter of his being and “Indonesian citizen” is something for Indonesia to decide in letting him, as a minor child, attend school there when his step-father was such a citizen and his mother moved there, too.
International law says a parent (or equivalent) cannot relinquish citizenship of a minor child. The child usually decides by age 21. That’s why BO could use an Indonesian or Kenyan or US passport to travel anywhere he wanted until he was age 21.
AMOF, any country can decide about their own citizenship status, and it doesn’t necessarily have any effect on some OTHER country who might already allow an individual to claim their citizenship.
So BO’s mother registered her child as a US citizen when she returned to Hawaii; then he was registered as Indonesian but didn’t give up his US citizenship. Another AMOF: Since his father (at least officially) was a British citizen-turned-Kenyan when Kenya achieved citizenship, he conferred British-then-Kenyan citizenship on BO at birth. BO gave up his Kenyan citizenship when he became 21. Presumably he gave up his Indonesian citizenship at the same time.
Let’s face it: He’s an American citizen! It’s other aspects of his character which might endanger us, not his citizenship! Let the smoke clear, and get on with attending other, more important, things. This dead horse needs to be buried!
Van Guard Reply:
October 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I dare you to produce the documents and prove it, whomper. I double-dare you.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
And while I’m at it: This is my first visit to this site, and I just read some more of the older comments. One thing stands out very clearly, and that’s the filthy language! Some of the right-wingers here are just as nasty as the Democraps! That saddens me.
If people can’t have a reasonable discussion, complete with references, even if they disagree — they still need to watch their public language! I don’t care how good your argument is — when you start with the filthy language and absolutely rude manners, then you lose any aspect of being taken seriously!
So all you folks who like to call everyone, who doesn’t take your side at 100%, some filthy name, please just stop! Flush your mouth, get a grip on yourself, start reading some stuff which is “out there” if you’ll just try — get a little education, and then maybe you can make your mother proud! I’m sure she’s reading those trashy comments and saying “My child would never say things like that in public!”. But I have some sad news for the mothers — their kids are just as dirty-mouthed as the Other Guys!
A man is known by the company he keeps. Bye-bye.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEumInJJjsA lol the birther movement
October 19th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
I saw a reference to the Sunday Standard printing another report when Obama won the Democratic nomination, but the page came up “not found” when I tried the link, and I haven’t been able to find it on the SS’s site. Perhaps a fertile field for anyone with some time and sleuthing skills…
October 19th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
well if obama is a token and he should be arrested for fraud which is a crime in this country
to pose as a president when he is not that person!
October 19th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
I’VE READ ENOUGH. WILL SOME ONE ARREST THIS GUY. FRAUD!=HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANOR/FELONY AND CONSPIRACY MORE THAN YOU AVERAGE MADEOFF. OPRAH CAN VISIT HIM IN KENYA BECAUSE HE WILL NEVER SEE JAIL CELL. I HEAR A GIANT SUCKING SOUND. AMENDMENT ADDITION. GOOD SCAM NWO.
October 19th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
So let us assume he IS a citizen: CITIZEN of WHAT country? Hell, I’d tar and feather two Bushes and a Clinton (with one on the spit) for less. He is a traitor, not only to his “supporters” but to a place once called “AMERICA” as well. Tell us of his integrity when he openly betrays, one by one, every promise he made to get your vote. He is less than a puppet, he is a creation and so a “Muppet”. Buy gold and silver and stay tuned, because his controllers may call the “kitchen” and want more gravy any time now.
October 20th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
he had to be Kenyan-born for the colored revolution in Kenya to succeed so Odinga could ethnically-cleanse the Kikyus out of Nairobi. It’s tribal politics man.
Try to click on my emoticon:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:24 pm
http://www.snopes.com:80/polit.....ficate.asp
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:32 am
All this, and more, can be found in The Obama Timeline at:
http://www.colony14.net
October 25th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Snopes is debunking it at http://www.snopes.com/politics.....ers/ap.asp
but I don’t know about Snopes. When they say that Obama has released his birth certificate and all he has released is a partial COB, I don’t know if they can be trusted. Usually they are pretty good though. Who knows what to believe anymore. We should all be for the truth, no matter what you may find out… even if it hurts.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I must add that Leo Dinofrio’s case seems to hold legitimacy. Obama’s own site, fightthesmears.com admits that Obama was born with dual citizenship. The Constitution says he can’t have that status and be president. I think it’s article 2, section 5, don’t hold me to that. Someone can look. The framers found themselves in a similar perdicament as they were born with British loyalties, thus they put the clause in so they would be elegible for office. Paraphrased, it says that if the are american citizens at the time of the signing of the Constitution, that they are elegible.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:27 am
sorry for my atrocious spelling and gramar
October 25th, 2009 at 11:31 am
whoops – done it again, grammar. It’s a good thing our livelihood doesn’t depend on our accuracy, or maybe it could. I will strive to do better in the future. The Republic is at stake. And yes, that is the correct spelling of livelihood… I looked it up.
October 26th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
I would be very leery of what you read on Snopes, especially about Obama. I have not read one thing derogatory on Snopes about any Liberal. If they can’t say anything positive about Obama, they don’t say anything. Guilty by omission. They are very biased in my eyes.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
How dare our government cover up this!!!
October 28th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Let’s take the grammar police squad elsewhere, shall we?
Show me a brilliant doctor or a brilliant scientist with excellent grammar and you’ll only be able to show me the frauds. Go back to the editorial desk – perhaps someone here will call upon your skills when they find themselves in need of an office tool.