Do you really think you have the ability to say no to a direct command/ then you have never been placed in a situattion where you could or felt that it was needed!!!!!!try it sometime and see where it gets you!!!!!! Our country has been taken over by liberals who have increasingly grown stronger and inluential……along with the most welthy!!!!! whi do you think runs this country? surely not the people!!!! your vote doesn;t count….the presidential election is a sham!! your vote doen’t elect the preident… the elctoral vote does..that means the elected officials in the house does…..want proof look at past elections the popular vote majority for for the looser…the electoral vote selected who the winner was!!!!! so tell me again..your vote counts where??

we had ammo at protests and you say we could say no to a direct command …. try it sometime and see were it gets you…..they would not allow me to re-enlist I was unfit..but in other words I was un-controllable. you want to give up your rights….your freedom of choice, your right to bear arms, and to have a government “OF” the people and “FOR” people tehn keep thinking the way you are and see where you are if you keep agreeing with everything they are pumping into your head and yes “you are being brain washed by the military hierarchey!!!!! I will defend my country from her enimies to this day….both enimies….outside and with-in!!!!! the outside world said many years ago that they do not have to go to war with un…they will beat us from with -in!!!!! look at our economy we the people were stupid in thinking that the government was there to protect us by their oversite of wall street and big busines weren’t we taken…look at the UN. they want and are working hard to remove the ability of US citisens to own and bear arms. With the newly elected government..it won’t take long…..they also want to be incontroll of the whole world…God help us if they succeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if you want to be a gullable and brain washed individual go ahead but people like me will never let it happen our watch!!! We will be tha ones who be here defending the unknowning and helpless of “OUR” country. I do not belong to any underground organization. I am one of the many individuals who know right from wrong and will not be prsuaded other wize God help you that do not see the changes comming to our world if we do not stand up!

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To # 108 “xscrapx”

I don’t know if my emails are being translated into another language before they reach this site but if so then I can understand why people are continuing not to refer to specific emails or reference their arguments.

To “xscrapx” please refer to my responses 104 & 106 in regards to this issue. In addition, I do not see the connection between a purely secular act of deploying a combat unit on American soil and the biblical concept of end days and world government. Focus on the issue at hand. The American people need to know what is and what is not lawful and constitutional in their own country! All religious or quasi-religious comments on this issue are not relevant. This is not a theocratic issue it is a political one. The United States is one of the few nations that makes a sincere attempt to seperate the powers of church and state. It is unecessary and unproductive to muddy the waters with religious quotes and/or prophecies.

Religious freedom is one of the cornerstones of the U.S. Constitution but it must be applied appropriately and in the correct context. The issue of unconstitutional acts that pertain to religious freedom is an example where such comments are pertinent. I urge all those who would use such arguments do so in matters that pertain to such issues.

In the meantime I will end this reply by reemphasizing the truth of this issue: The decision to deploy a U.S. military unit on U.S. soil for the purpose of engaging in a law enforcement capacity is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I trust no one is confused on this point.

Thank You.

To #106 “jlmortar”

Again I must emphasize that this email like the earlier one from “Raider Noone” does not specify a response to a particular email nor reference examples to support the argument. Assuming I’m one of the people who believe you are a “brain washed sop” I would like you to point out when or where I stated this. For the record I don’t believe you or any member of the U.S. Military are brain washed sops. I do, however, believe many if not most of you are unaware or disinterested in the long-term ramifications of the decision to activate a U.S. combat unit on U.S. soil.
Please refer to the response I wrote for # 104 “Raider Noone” for the unconstutionality of such an act.

I am sincerely happy you and your unit returned from Iraq unharmed. I am not quite sure what you mean when you say you “turned around” Al Anbar province. Presumably the Iraqi people and their state agents are peacefully co-existing in that area. In any case I doubt you had any control over that or any other military operations in that country or fully comprehend the deeper political and economic reasons for the war.

As for your advice on how the American people should respond to their liberties being taken from them by “not rioting” and “don’t piss off your local law enforcement” I trust I don’t have to point out to you that it’s the military and police which are answerable to the people not the other way around. Their actions must be approved by the people and their duty is to protect a free society that won’t feel the need to riot or challenge their authority.

Personally I have never required the assistance of the military for any reason, that fact aside when natural disasters strike local, state and federal agencies seperate from the military are called in. These agencies are civilian in structure and administer by civilian authorities. Occassionally elements of the National Guard will assist but only if the above mentioned civilian authorities consent to such assistance.

If you are unhappy with not being able to visit your family as frequently as others do (assuming of course they do visit their famalies more), may I suggest you request a discharge from military service as soon as you are able and find employment in some civilian profession.

Finally, the relationship between the people and their military and the actions they take or not take cannot be simplfied in terms of both sides not doing something that seems wrong. The decision to activate a U.S. combat unit on U.S. soil is wrong period it is unconstitutional. In the interest of preserving what is arguable the most profound political document in human history, the U.S. Constitution, you must always, not sometimes, refuse to obey an unlawful order.

I look forward to a reply if you are so inclined.

To #104 “Raider Noone”

The word ignorance implies lack of knowledge. Your comments don’t specify responses to any particular email nor do they reference examples to support your argument. Going under the assumption you are a member of the military I trust you unmderstand that a soldiers first duty is to obey orders not question them. Polticians make policy the miltary carries out that policy. The U.S. military leadership has ordered an American military unit to engage in combat duties on the soil of the United Sates for some vague concern over “public disorder”. This is in direct violation of the U.S. Constitution, (see “posse comitatus”), a document the military forces of the United States are mandated by law to protect and preserve. Any change, ammendment or deletion of any articles in that document must be approved by a majortiy vote of the U.S. Supreme Court. This has not happen in regards to this action therefore the action is unconsitutional regardless of the supposed motives of such action.

I encourage you and other like-minded persons to study the Constitution carefully. Your Republic was founded on the principle of democracy a political concept that promotes the well-being of the majority over the actions of a minority. President Bush, the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Military has already violated the constitution on several occasions including the creation of the so-called “Patriot Acts” 1 and 2 in which, for example, the fouth ammendment has been bypassed allowing agents of the state to search and seize property without probably cause which is a requiremnt under that ammendement. These acts are not justified or made legal simply because a president, general or corporate executive claim “nationl security” or “emergency” reasons for such action. Since this act, and others besides have not been approved by a majority vote of the U.S. Supreme Court they are unconsitutional. As C-in-C of the military Bush is also liable for the unconstutional military “mission” under discussion.

You, as an American citizen (I assume), have just as much right to question these acts as anyone else. You are not obligated to follow unconstutional orders and I encourage you to take the next step and exercise that right and not fall in line with state propaganda. If we as citizens of all nations are to fully realize our rights we must act on them. Presidents, prime ministers even dictators have frequently claimed they are defending freedom and engaging in activities for the protection and well-being of the people. If this is true they are acting in ways which are clearly violating those supposed motives.

I look forward to a reasoned and well thought out reply if you are so inclined.

Deployed where? What city?

Any violent response no matter how small will add fuel to the fire of legitimizing suppressive rule. How many Americans and citizens worldwide will accept or do business with a government that so wantonly violates the rights of its’ own citizens? Soldiers, police officers and like-minded agents of the State will be terribly conflicted internally as this suppression widens and cuts across all racial and religious lines. Basic command and control structures will begin to weaken and dissent from within the State’s power apparatus will appear.

Passive non-violent resistance is extremely tough to organize and requires the utmost in courage amongst its’ followers. It will take years to show signs of success. Many good people will die and both physically and/or mentally abused or imprisoned. If all this seems a tad extreme it is important to remember that all totalitarian systems begin quietly, slowly and carefully. Let’s not forget that it took the Nazis several years to consolidate their hold on the political, economic and social life of the German people.

In the end it is essential that people across the United States, Canada, Europe and throughout the world understand that they really do hold the ultimate power. Without people to control there are no states, governments or elites to run them. If the people can act in an honourable, decent and moral way those elites and all the power they hold become useless.

Passive non-violent resistance can take many forms. Blocking public access to buildings which interrupts the flow of commerce. Using your bodies as “shields” to prevent State-owned and operated vehicles from transporting political prisoners, relocating families or theft of personal property food/water supplies or medical equipment. Cutting lines of communication to and from military or paramilitary installations. Refusing to obey unlawful, unconstitutional or tyrannical orders from agents of the State and much more besides. The goal is to disrupt, delay or damage the military-industrial complex using non-violent means and to face them openly in a non-violent way. It has worked in the past and it will work in the future.

Long live freedom! Long live the individual!

[3] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
[4] And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

2Thes.2
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The great falling away (apostate churchs) had not taken place in 1888. Nor in 1957. Apparently…. your acquaintance hadn’t read his Bible.