SUSANNE M. SCHAFER
Associated Press
August 27, 2008
FORT JACKSON, S.C. (AP) — Austin Swarner left high school to care for his mother while she fought a losing battle with cancer. Tony Brown wanted to begin supporting himself and left two classes shy of a diploma. Haelee Holden got tired of trying to make it through school while flipping burgers until 1 a.m.
But the U.S. Army, eager to fill its ranks amid wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, doesn’t see them as dropouts. They are recruits who only need a GED before they’re ready to begin basic training.
And so, the Army formally opens its first prep school Wednesday.
“It’s academic immersion,” explained Col. Jeffrey Sanderson, chief of staff at Fort Jackson, home of the Army’s largest basic training school. “Our studies show that with only three out of every 10 people of military age being capable of joining the Army, we are going to have to do something different.”
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August 27th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Now that’s smart recruiting – no denying it!
HAD TO BE SAID
August 27th, 2008 at 9:54 am
I’m a felon and they tried recruting me at the mall. They said my felony was not a problem that it could be taken care of if I was willing to enlist right then and there. I said no way and that was that. Plus I’m not a youngster either, they’re getting desparate and I see the draft coming back within a year from now.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Hear this and hear this LOUD!!
Any United States citizen who would join the ranks of any military sector is a traitor to this country, and nothing more than a new recruit for the New World Order’s killing machine.
There is no military of and for the US any longer. It is now the military of the people in power to achieve their goals. The military does not defend the US. It destroys countries that do not adhere to our will and ways of beliefs, and won’t use our worthless currency.
We are not at war even now. We have invaded countries who have chosen to stop using the US Treasury Notes, and the fiat currency it represents which countries are now realizing it’s demise.
But, the US and it’s banker bosses can not allow that. Therefore, the US ran a false flag 9-11 and as with Kennedy’s assassination by the bankers for doing the same, they sold the idiots of the US a cock and bull story and invaded the countries who wanted out of the Feds ponzi scheme.
There is no escape from the clutches of the Rothchilds, Wraburgs, and Rockefellers. They rule with death, and you will be nothing more than their gunman. Is that what you want for your future? Oh, and when they are done with you, they’ll eliminate you too.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:11 am
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August 27th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Want some real truth on secret societies? The Illuminati was founded by Adam Weishaupt A crypto Jew. While holding a position as professor of cannon law at Ingleshtatd University. He was commissioned for this work by the Rothchild banking family. You may know them as the Jewish family that has an estimated net worth of 150 trillion dollars. I’m sure the figure is many times that. They own the Federal Reserve. They even had their family crest put on the flag of the modern state of Israel. The six pointed star is in actuality called a hexagram. A satanic conjuring aid in the darkest of black magic rituals and sacrifices. Solomon brought it to ancient Israel when disobeyed God and took wifes of the foreign nations his father David conquered. In time these wifes even persuaded him to build alters to these strange Gods right on the temple grounds. That is why the kingdom was divided and these occult practices have become entrenched in Judaism ever since, hidden in the Talmud and Kabballa. When the people would be stirred up by a prophet of God and punish the idolaters the response was to simply go underground and form secret societies. The Jewish people didn’t create these strange gods but they did write it all down and preserve the ancient abominations. Look in your old testament its all there. All of the worlds secret societies are under the control of the Priory of Sion. The oldest and by far the most powerful secret society on the planet. They founded The Nights Templar, The Nights Of Malta, The nights Of St. John, The Rosicrucian’s The Masons, The Golden Dawn, The Illuminati, The Nights Of The Garter, The Jesuits, etc, etc. They still control all of these groups and exercise micro management of all their affairs. The Priory Of Sion today is the personal family lodge of the Rothschild family and nothing happens without their say so. There, thats the scoop on secret societies. All of this is easily found in a day or two of serious research so look it up for yourself. Don’t take my word for anything, after all I am supposed to be some kind of a Jew hater.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Nothing personal, but when standards drop, it is a good barometer for things are about to suck.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:20 am
John Q Public,
Do you really believe all of that propaganda you just spouted? Your words are hollow. You’re the opposite extreme of the mainstream media. They tug the party line and you tug the anti-party party line. You’re hardly any different.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Moreover,
Why should hired killers need high school diplomas at all? They should just let everyone in who wants in, amputees, retards, high school dropouts and lezbian bikers all.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:28 am
Demand that the Canadian Government Investigate 9/11
http://www.ipetitions.com/peti.....index.html
August 27th, 2008 at 10:29 am
John Q. Public has some valid points. First, we had the defacto backdoor draft using Reserve Units in Iraq and Afghanistan with minimal attention to proper troop rotations. We shot up a tremendous amount of innocent lives in Iraq. The wounded soldiers on all sides, have suffered horribly. Thousands of US soldiers have been misdiagnosed, ignored and made the object of experiments by the Veterans Administration. Others with lesser wounds have faired better. Nonetheless, US troops have been exposed to so much DU (Depleted Uranium) that the levels of illness are on a steep incline. Psychiatric illnesses from PTSD to other bizarre mixed states are showing up in a significant percent of Iraqi veterans. Remember Eve Carson the Duke University Student Body President? She was shot to death in the early morning hours by an out of control Iraq war veteran. The same was the case in the killing at Auburn last year.
Just based on the risks of not being told what you are being vaccinated with is excuse enough not to sign up. Why volunteer for a sham program like this when getting a little GED is just proving yourself for other jobs? You have freedom. The plan here is to get you your GED and then NOT have you think about any other options. This program is like a military recruiter on steroids 24/7.
Get your GED, and do something to work to help people in your states and cities and towns. It is obvious the Military Industrial Complex is scouring to look for new ways to get “cannon fodder”. What next, Middle School early sign ups?
August 27th, 2008 at 10:44 am
Because ‘The Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery’ (ASVAB) is a pretty tough test (sample ASVAB available at Military .com), the US is now going to have to adopt similar recruitment standards to that of the British Army. After all, targets for the Taleban need not have a GED better than the Taleban who seem to be an effective enough enemy, without one.
As is most effective: Don’t volunteer to join the armed forces. Emigrate ASAP to avoid a Draft. Canada’s good, and conveniently located, too.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:44 am
I dropped out of high school thirteen years ago to fullfill my childhood dream by joining the army at age 17. Since then, I have achieved a BS degree, am currently working on my second degree, and still proudly wearing the uniform. Better men serve and put thier ass on the line so that you can open your fat pie hole and trash them on your behalf; f*ck you Alex.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:04 am
to Kevin: before you put yourself out there to look foolish, learn how to spell the word “their”. It’s ironic that this article is about education, huh? No offense, bro, but dropping school to fulfill your army dreams is not what I would consider a very wise decision. So your 30 and working on a second degree. Big deal. People do it all the time. I plan on having three degrees, but I don’t need the military to get me there:). When you hear what the people like Alex have to say, look into it and see if it is true before you turn a blind eye. Jeez, the Rambo mindset you have will only stereotype you farther.
Based on FACTUAL evidence, it can be concluded that we have no business in these countries we have invaded, and our troops deserve to be safe at home. I wish no harm on any of our troops; you must realize that the men in the White House who sent you to do their bidding DO NOT give a s--- about you. If a draft is invoked, I will be damned if I give my life on a battlefield for some pricks in an office somewhere who want more money and control. When a legitimate threat to our country arises, I will be the first to defend my country.
When did peace become such a bad thing??
August 27th, 2008 at 11:23 am
I see a problem with most things the Gov does, but well not this. for some the Military does give them a chance at a better life. Not all Military people are bad,and not all are mindless.
These kids are getting a shot at doing some things they may not be able to do where they live now They may not have the grades to get Scholarships, or have the money to get good collage loans, and when growing up my mother had to start a s--- business to get a partial loan to help me go to school, and she waited tables for a living.
But many who serve today went in with the silly idea that they were only in it for school, not realizing they they may hve to deploy to a combat zone, at least these kids are well aware of it.
sorry do not see a problem with it at all.
to those wanting a better life and join the army a Big Hooah!!!!!!, just know what you are getting into
August 27th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Po0st 6 I have to agree with what you are saying, the I know the tests to get on the Police Departments in many Southern states hve dropped, but are still pretty high in PA.
Now if the Army gets these kids ready for their GED, and gets them ready for their tests they may not be dropping standards. Not every high school is the best, and look at how they teach now, they only teach for tests so that teachers can get raises, so all standards have dropped in many ways.
I see the s--- my kid brings home and calls homework, and I remember hve at least three hours worth every night, but she never has any to bring home because they all get it done in class and does all her assignments.
The whole system is falling apart.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:32 am
comic book field manuals (they can’t read)m-16a-somethings with training wheels ,boots you dont polish.no maps,and berets you dont earn. doesnt look to bright in the us military these days Sfc. burcher.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:34 am
#10 – Brad
I’ll admit I’ve had a few, so please feel free to disregard me but, “In vino veritas…”
I was under government training in the mid-80’s in order to gain certification as a weather observer. But I stood alone and kept calling clouds contrary to the other 19 collaborating students, at a place called TCTI (TICK-TEE), in Cornwall, Ontario (sweet Town).
I took 3 vaccines, as part of the 6-month curriculum. What am I saying?
I dunno, too hazy right now. But I can say this. Government is top-down. All about strategy. And the real effect is to betray those working from the bottom-up. In violation of Science. I defied their program more than once. I was kicked out. To be honest, the stress did flake me out.
My point? Is that government programs are carefully calibrated according to self-serving exclusions and inclusions. The federal intend shall be served, any sort of rebels are shall be worsèd.
HAD TO BE SAID
August 27th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Did I ever say peace was a bad thing?
August 27th, 2008 at 11:40 am
young recruits are the best tender age to fight the elites war of conquest for the nwo,young and dumb,the best to take orders without question.The majority of the prison population is poor and dropped out of school at a young age.Kevin is a fine example what the army trains for killing machines that is sent to other nations to fight for the corporations and bankers to increase their wealth and to enslave the common man.Even with so called education,they still are souless killing machines trained to use their education to operate their machines of death. War is a racket,as so true what the book written by the x general butler wrote about the true nature of the military,and kissenger called them “dumb animals used to fight wars for the elite”.The us will never win a war after vietnam and korea,they will be cannon fodder as Albert Pike quoted in his writtings about the comming ww3,just as the elite built up nazi germany for their evil agenda,so will the us third reich be destroyed,no wonder the u.s helmets are the same as the nazi”s,and the Bush family had ties with the nazi”s.
August 27th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Kevin, Alex is merely posting an Associated Press article citing the efforts being made to curtail declines in recruitment. The success you described is commendable but this story details the targeting of dropouts in recruitment efforts and not people such as yourself who dropped out just to be a soldier. It’s kinda hard to have people signing up in the current atmosphere of pre-emption that has our military in two theatres against countries that were never a threat to us. People would be lining up to join if we actually thought our country, family, or friends were in any sort of danger from a foreign enemy. Sadly, we seem to tolerate the domestic ones.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Tell the military to go f--- themselves,go beat your meat in the washroom stalls.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
#17 Marc: You got your point across very well. The Pentagon recruitment for the Iraq war was so finely calibrated they even knew what household income range potential recruits would be coming from, family educational backgrounds and more. It was within the $32 – 34 K range. The staged 9/11 events were the perfect trigger to get loads of young guys and girls to sign up to “defend” America against “terrorists” with WMD in Iraq. They knew the vast majority of people would assume they were telling the truth. So right when you say, “government programs are carefully calibrated according to self-serving exclusions and inclusions. The federal intend shall be served, any sort of rebels are shall be worsèd.”
Of course now that they are desperate to reach recruiting goals, they are lying to potential recruits by telling them they cannot get out of non-binding contracts they signed when they expressed interest in joining. They lie to them about the possibilities of being deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Sure there are what people call honest recruiters, but so many are looking to make quotas and get bonuses. A new recruit is just another statistic. This school for high school dropouts is the next logical extension. I guess they are running short on the felons and skinheads they opened the door to with exemptions.
Pathetic.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Travis Smith’s posting correctly shows the “big picture” very well . Kevin…. It’s not just about you ! When you find yourself sending troops into a no-win New World Order battle as expendable cannon fodder , you might want to be aware of “friendly fire” frag that could be thrown in your direction. SUPPORT OUR TROOPS ! BRING THEM HOME to take DEFENSIVE positions and fight the traitorous New World Order ! “Be careful with a fool , ‘cuz someday he might get smart….!”
August 27th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Look, this is people’s personal freedom. Aren’t you patriots for that. Here we have people that for whatever reason didn’t get their diploma. They’re trying to fix that by joining the Army, who’ll give them the chance to earn one. They’re trying to improve their status in life. The Army is trying to help these people achieve something with their lives. It’s funny how folks are always so concerned about the poor and uneducated, but they never do anything to try to fix the problem. The Army is going to give these kids a chance at the very least. They’re actually taking action, unlike those that say “we must help the poor,” but who do nothing. What’s the alternative? The alternative is that they’d end up in the ghetto or trailer park never being anything but a burden to the rest of us. The headline is misleading because the Army won’t be filling it’s ranks with drop outs if these kids go through this prep school. These kids want to do this, they are not being forced into it. Don’t blame the Army for being the only ones that are willing to help. Don’t hate the Army for not seeing these kids as hopeless trash.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
This is old news here. They will let “criminals” in and all kinds of people. Sick people, flat footed people, they don’t care. Cannon fodder is all they need.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
It would be great if the Government’s intentions were genuine in this matter. Yeah, take a few kids of f the streets, give them a chance to succeed and serve their Country in the process. But we all know that’s not what’s afoot here. As another person stated in his post, they need more cannon fodder. To be frank, I’m more disturbed by the fact that now the Military is recruiting Repeated Convicted Felons, known gang members (who continue their gang activities while in the service, as many as 10,000 in the service now), non Citizens or even non permanent residents, and the fact that they are doing a lot of recruiting outside of the U.S. Bottom line, you have to ask yourself were the loyalties of such people would be. Would these be the kind of soldiers who would turn their guns on innocent U.S. Citizens without giving it a second thought?
August 27th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Boris: I mean Anna… I think and know #3 is dead on!!! Moreover…bite me!!! Read more than ONE book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “All Hail Thermal Expansion!!!”
August 27th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Math the Army way…
“If you have a gun that holds 6 bullets, and you use 3 on an innocent Iraqi, how many bullets are left in your gun?”
August 27th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Kevin- you don’t have a clue whats really going on in our Government.
August 27th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Us elders know that youth has no concept of mortality. I see that their sweet innocent lives are being used up for profit. It’s a kind of child exploitation.
HAD TO BE SAID
August 27th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
This could be good for some ? But what the Bush Adm. is doing is total against the CONSTUTITION ! The death toll is more like 20,000 and a hellof a lot more wounded for life /wait and see the GOV,T will dump them as soon as the MSM stops reporting on the injured!!!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
good one for the dumb Folks
August 27th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
i mean that sarcastically!! its horrible to see our men die
August 27th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
man im scottish ye i was thinking of joining the army i was so close like 2 years ago and thn i found i had multiple problems with my feet tht even today ive nt had my foot placements and all tht what im reli saying is im glad about tht now caus i dnt wna go fight a war based on a lie
and im glad to say in the past 2 years i have learned alot.
August 27th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
man im scottish ye i was thinking of joining the army i was so close like 2 years ago and thn i found i had multiple problems with my feet tht even today ive nt had my foot placements and all tht what im reli saying is im glad about tht now caus i dnt wna go fight a war based on a lie
and im glad to say in the past 2 years i have learned alot. ok it might just be taking a while to process but ive tried to load this comment not tht long ago
August 27th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Well the only comment I have is that yes military always trains young men to be killers, simple been going on forever. It is just how the game is played, but many see the Military as their onlyy chance, because some just do not want to stay in the coal mines, or in some rural area for the rest of their lives, or stay in the same small town as their family.
these kids are getting a chance, they are getting education and I have seen these programs work, now if they survive combat they may be able to make a life for themselves. They are free to make the choice, and I give them a Big Hooah!!!!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Yes, we are going to need more young men like these to fight Russia. Look, they are just poor kids from the poor side of town–ordinary guys looking after dying moms who are dying of cancers (probably caused by the chemtrails Bemas is talking about), but nevermind, we have billions too many folks on the face of the earth anyways and if they stayed here they would just be competing for a job with an illegal Mexican or one of those other countries south of the border–so, I say, yeah, send them on. We got plenty like them to spare. The army will be good for them. That kid who was looking after his Mom while she was dying, soon he will be tossing puppy dogs off cliffs, or shooting Iraqi’s (or Russians) who have their hands tied behind their backs. Yesiree, they will get some good training over there. When they get back, I’m sure there will be a job in the NWO police state waiting for them. They can hold down those jobs until they get sick from the depleted uranium being used in the ammunition, and then, hey! I hope they have more balls than to go crying to the VA expecting us tapayers to take care of them. I mean geez, a guy should be willing to give up for his country, right?
Seriously, the people who post on this site sometimes make me want to go to the NWO elites and beg them to let me in. How can people be so friggin’ stupid and support this bulls---, knowing what they know about this country, and the way these wars have been used to bankrupt us and destroy any future these kids may have had. John Q. Public restores my faith, however, and others like him who see this crap for what it is–more bulls--- to pull in the unsuspecting. Those recruiters are going to burn in hell ’cause they know better. Hope their 30 pieces of silver spend better than our freakin useless dollars!!!!!
August 27th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
http://www.onemorepromethean.com
August 27th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
The military mainly trains people (men and women) to be loyal.. after that..everything else is easy…..
August 27th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
I am so glad to hear about this program. I am a graduate of a pulic high school. Whenever I read about things like this it reminds me of what that American patriot, Winston Churchll said,¨´Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you´´
August 27th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Great. As if the people in the military aren’t dumb enough. Wait, I just gave too much credit to the governments scrhool system.
ha,ha…….I like that little trick in your comment #41. most people won’t get it I’m sure.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
lol. 41, that’s some funny stuff.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC) might have to borrow money from the Treasury Department to see it through an expected wave of bank failures, the Wall Street Journal reported.
Hmmm? So the FDIC was created to insure depositers and now the US Treasury will have to borrow into existence money from the illegal private cartel, federal reserve, that is neither federal or has reserves whereby it can/and will grant the US Treasury a loan by allowing the printing of federal reserve notes (similar to monopoly money but actually more worthless cuz of interest charged) so as to insure the FDIC that is suppose to insure the depoisters? Have I got that right? Can somebody please explain why we, as a free(?) nation would have need of an illegal private bank charging interest on money it creates out of nothing and charging interest on it whereby the US citizens can not ever be able to repay cuz the $ in circulation does not include the % owed and therefore can never be repaid with such a system (usury–zionist) in place? We the people have obviously been deceived and used…very used! Peace.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
I served in the Army for over 13 yrs and am proud of the service that I gave to my country and the founding fathers. I took and oath and went strictky by that oath. Any deviation from that oath or my contract and I could have just walked away. No blue berets her buddy! I will say this when you pansy a@$ commenters are ready to take on the neocons head to head who will be doing your fighting? I can tell you who….WE VETS. Thanks to the elites for trainging us for free on how to be killers it will be their own demise in the long run…Stick that in your pipe and smoke it you PU@@IES!
August 27th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Thats about it Frustrated #45 and “useary is against God’s Law, sin! No wonder in packs such a punch, no?
We Are Change…911Truth…infowars.com…we must change this abomination(s) heal government.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
#42 ans 44 ….I have been submitting comments like this for awhile and am glad to say …You two are the only one’s who seem to have gotten my humor…Thanks
August 27th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Answer to the negative consequences of high drop-out rates? Curb the loss and find a way to make it positive! In this case recycling them and putting them into the military… rather than taking the millions of dollars already being pumped into the military complex and using it in ways which can help young people succeed. We all know thats not their aim though.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Why do we always send the poor!?!
Its not like there are many other choices to someone not born of the well to do anymore,no factories,no meaningful employment-maybe walmart is hireing,yay!
No choice,by design.
August 28th, 2008 at 12:54 am
These programs are nothing new most states have natl guard youth places you go to them xercize, learn disclipine and get a ged ,then cya and they hope you sign up at the end.
This is a news spon on that.
if they wanna fill the ranks all they have to do is cut the b/s meps process down to just sign on the dotted line, here’s your bus ticket, have fun.
August 28th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Thank you, public “education” for this lack of knowledge by our young people.
August 28th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
ha i’m among these people everyday…i dont feel as though i will ever have my back covered what so ever.i might catch a 5.56 round due to sheer ignorance.maybe i’m the ignorant one for staying in?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:40 am
Being a Combat vet of OIF and embarking on my second tour I can honestly say no more people need to go to this s---hole it brings divorce, depression, suicide, PTSD it needs to stop!!!!!!!!
September 12th, 2008 at 5:46 am
Being OIF vet and about to embark on my second tour I can honestly say no more kids need to step on board that plane to the middle east, it absolutly makes me mad!!!!!
September 25th, 2008 at 3:49 am
John Q. Public is a wacko! He lives in a childish imaginary world of his own.
A traitor if you join the U.S. military? Is this now what we’ve come to?
John Q. can take a plane ride right out of here in live in some other “public” that he might think is so much better.
(Funny how so many forget or just don’t plain care about the 3,000 people murdered on 9/11. Oh that’s right Alex Jones said it was an inside job! He’s the traitor! This guy is full of B.S. He’s some guy who loves attention, and needs to be in some kind of media. He’s an ego maniac cult leader, just like Jim Jones. He has some legitimate concerns like the rest of us, but he is over the top, an extremist no different than the people he talks about all the time.)
Today what we see on the tube is the ongoing war against those, and their murdering cultures!
Leaders are no angels by a long shot, but there is good reason to be fighting these people.
Unfortunately, the world also lives on oil, and until we can change all that, the middle east will remain important to the rest of the world.
People like John Q. should sell their car and ride a bycycle, or a horse the rest of their lives. They should also not be caught drinking out of any plastic container or anything made from petroleum.
As far as getting desperate for recruits. It’s either that, or a draft so take your pick!
One thing is for sure if it weren’t for our heros in uniform who sign up voluntarily, Alex Jones, and the rest of you would be too busy bickering and telling your conspiracy stories 24/7 to defend yourselves while some enemy were attacking us here all over our own country!
You would be a worthless bunch standing around with signs and conspiring, while your families would be in danger, rather than stop running your mouths and take up arms to defend yourselves and your loved ones. But for some reason when your own countrymen do that collectively for you and the rest of here in America, you all criticize, and call people “traitors” for doing so.
Some people are just plain idiots who take nothing in moderation, and also beleive everything they read or hear on some cultish, wacknut, website like this one.
Listen to yourselves sometimes! Little green men, and black helicopters everywhere!
Don’t be such a nut all the time. Get real once in a while!
March 21st, 2009 at 1:26 pm
To all you people who discredit military volunteers, well go piss yourselves. I currently hold a graduate degree. Oh guess what, I have a household income of over 34k, own my own house, and I chose to drive over to a recruiting station and sign up for the army. I realize the army isn’t for everyone. However, the people serving in the military are out there fighting to protect the American freedoms everyone using this post seems to be enjoying. The right to free speech, and a computer to use to play around at your disposal are better than a great deal of the world currently have. So if you don’t like the military, that is fine. I have heard all this “next Veitnam” stuff for years now and the statistics certainly aren’t all that promising. However, I chose to join it, and that’s that. I realize that in basic training starting in 6 weeks I’ll probably be stuck around some people that are morons. Nobody ever said you have to be a genius to jump out of a plane and shoot the m16a1 or the m4. No need to be critical of people for choosing to try to better themselves.