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Another Prominent Military Figure Denounces NeoCons, Iraq, War on Terror
Delta Force founder joins ranks who say there is no real threat to the US and war is based on lies

Steve Watson / Infowars | March 27 2006

Retired Command Sergeant Major Eric Haney, founding member of the military's elite covert counter-terrorist unit, Delta force, has stated publicly for the record that he sees the war in Iraq as an "Utter debacle" based on intentions by the Bush administration that were "not what they stated" and that "there is no real threat to the U.S. in the world".

Haney made the comments in an exclusive interview with David Kronke for the LA Daily News published yesterday.

After Haney retired from the military his book "Inside Delta Force" became the basis for the hit CBS drama "The Unit," where he now assumes technical adviser and executive producer duties.

When questioned on Iraq Haney responded with the following:

Utter debacle. But it had to be from the very first. The reasons were wrong. The reasons of this administration for taking this nation to war were not what they stated. (Army Gen.) Tommy Franks was brow-beaten and ... pursued warfare that he knew strategically was wrong in the long term. That's why he retired immediately afterward. His own staff could tell him what was going to happen afterward.

We have fomented civil war in Iraq. We have probably fomented internecine war in the Muslim world between the Shias and the Sunnis, and I think Bush may well have started the third world war, all for their own personal policies.

We'd better take it seriously when the founder member of one of the most elite military forces in the world says Bush has fomented a third world war for personal gain.

Haney also described the climate of fear and repression that the NeoCons have brought down upon America and its people, and the rapid shift into authoritarian governance after 9/11:

For the first thing, our credibility is utterly zero. So we destroyed whatever credibility we had. ... And I say "we," because the American public went along with this. They voted for a second Bush administration out of fear, so fear is what they're going to have from now on... this administration has worked overtime to divert the American public's attention from [Iraq]. Their lies are coming home to roost now, and it's gonna fall apart.

On the subject of torture Haney denounced the policies put in place by the NeoCons, and purposefully singled out Dick Cheney as the driving force behind torture. Haney suggested that the only reason torture has become policy is because Cheney LIKES it:

That's Cheney's pursuit. The only reason anyone tortures is because they like to do it. It's about vengeance, it's about revenge, or it's about cover-up. You don't gain intelligence that way. Everyone in the world knows that. It's worse than small-minded, and look what it does. I've argued this on Bill O'Reilly and other Fox News shows. I ask, who would you want to pay to be a torturer? Do you want someone that the American public pays to torture? He's an employee of yours. It's worse than ridiculous. It's criminal; it's utterly criminal.

We have exhaustively documented the sick twisted logic behind the policy of torture and how it is being used not as a way to gather intelligence but purely as a fear based psyop, a mass conditioning technique to goad the American public into conformity and acceptance of their criminal government's actions. Haney's comments suggest exactly this.

Anyone who does not go along with the policy of torture is promptly removed from their positions and replaced, as was Brig. Gen. Rick Baccus, who refused to go along with the outright torture at Guantanamo Bay, and often stood in the way of tougher interrogation techniques before being reassigned.

Baccus is another prominent military figure who has since spoken out against such policies, stating that "Those people are the ones who need to be publicly charged. I don't know how high it needs to go."

Another military figure who has denounced the NeoCons is the former General at Abu Ghraib, Janis Karpinski, who says she was deliberately kept out of the loop and scapegoated in the torture scandal in order to protect higher ups.

Back to Eric Haney, who even went as far as saying that although the US armed forces are now completely consumed, there is no real threat to America. Once again another credible figure who has previous high ranking connections inside the Pentagon and with the administration is touting the fact that the perceived threat to the US post 9/11is a complete fraud:

Our military is completely consumed, so were there a real threat - thankfully, there is no real threat to the U.S. in the world, but were there one, we couldn't confront it. Right now, that may not be a bad thing, because that keeps Bush from trying something with Iran or with Venezuela.

Haney's comments tie in with revelations from earlier this month when a Zogby poll indicated that 72% of troops in Iraq want out. It seems that the vast majority of US and British forces are now against the war.

We have seen senior officers quitting in disgust at the lack of government respect and protection for their men, RAF officers facing jail time for refusing to engage in "illegal" actions, and SAS professionals walking away denouncing the war as illegal and the actions of US troops as "sub-human".

The London Independent last week reported that the number of British soldiers going Awol has trebled since the invasion of Iraq.

What more will it take for this madness to end? The people are against the war, the troops are against the war, senior military officials are against the war.

Haney's closing comments reiterate the shift in majority opinion and the awakening of many to the truth of the Neoconservative criminality that we have been relentlessly subjected to in recent years:

... ultimately I believe in the good and the decency of the American people, and they're starting to see what's happening and the lies that have been told. We're seeing this current house of cards start to flutter away. The American people come around. They always do.


Founder of Delta Force: "There is no real threat to the US in the world"
"Bush has formented world war three" "Americans voted for a second Bush administration out of fear, so fear is what they're going to have from now on."

Prisonplanet article to follow...

David Kronke / LA Daily News | March 26 2006

Eric Haney, a retired command sergeant major of the U.S. Army, was a founding member of Delta Force, the military's elite covert counter-terrorist unit. He culled his experiences for "Inside Delta Force" (Delta; $14), a memoir rich with harrowing stories, though in an interview, Haney declines with a shrug to estimate the number of times he was almost killed. (Perhaps the most high-profile incident that almost claimed his life was the 1980 failed rescue of the hostages in Iran.) Today, he's doing nothing nearly as dangerous: He serves as an executive producer and technical adviser for "The Unit," CBS' new hit drama based on his book, developed by playwright David Mamet. Even up against "American Idol," "The Unit" shows muscle, drawing 18 million viewers in its first two airings.

Since he has devoted his life to protecting his country in some of the world's most dangerous hot spots, you might assume Haney is sympathetic to the Bush administration's current plight in Iraq (the laudatory cover blurb on his book comes from none other than Fox's News' Bill O'Reilly). But he's also someone with close ties to the Pentagon, so he's privy to information denied the rest of us.

We recently spoke to Haney, an amiable, soft-spoken Southern gentleman, on the set of "The Unit."

Q: What's your assessment of the war in Iraq?

A: Utter debacle. But it had to be from the very first. The reasons were wrong. The reasons of this administration for taking this nation to war were not what they stated. (Army Gen.) Tommy Franks was brow-beaten and ... pursued warfare that he knew strategically was wrong in the long term. That's why he retired immediately afterward. His own staff could tell him what was going to happen afterward.

We have fomented civil war in Iraq. We have probably fomented internecine war in the Muslim world between the Shias and the Sunnis, and I think Bush may well have started the third world war, all for their own personal policies.

Q: What is the cost to our country?

A: For the first thing, our credibility is utterly zero. So we destroyed whatever credibility we had. ... And I say "we," because the American public went along with this. They voted for a second Bush administration out of fear, so fear is what they're going to have from now on.

Our military is completely consumed, so were there a real threat - thankfully, there is no real threat to the U.S. in the world, but were there one, we couldn't confront it. Right now, that may not be a bad thing, because that keeps Bush from trying something with Iran or with Venezuela.

The harm that has been done is irreparable. There are more than 2,000 American kids that have been killed. Tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis have been killed ñ which no one in the U.S. really cares about those people, do they? I never hear anybody lament that fact. It has been

a horror, and this administration has worked overtime to divert the American public's attention from it. Their lies are coming home to roost now, and it's gonna fall apart. But somebody's gonna have to clear up the aftermath and the harm that it's done just to what America stands for. It may be two or three generations in repairing.

Q: What do you make of the torture debate? Cheney ...

A: (Interrupting) That's Cheney's pursuit. The only reason anyone tortures is because they like to do it. It's about vengeance, it's about revenge, or it's about cover-up. You don't gain intelligence that way. Everyone in the world knows that. It's worse than small-minded, and look what it does.

I've argued this on Bill O'Reilly and other Fox News shows. I ask, who would you want to pay to be a torturer? Do you want someone that the American public pays to torture? He's an employee of yours. It's worse than ridiculous. It's criminal; it's utterly criminal. This administration has been masters of diverting attention away from real issues and debating the silly. Debating what constitutes torture: Mistreatment of helpless people in your power is torture, period. And (I'm saying this as) a man who has been involved in the most pointed of our activities. I know it, and all of my mates know it. You don't do it. It's an act of cowardice. I hear apologists for torture say, "Well, they do it to us." Which is a ludicrous argument. ... The Saddam Husseins of the world are not our teachers. Christ almighty, we wrote a Constitution saying what's legal and what we believed in. Now we're going to throw it away.

Q: As someone who repeatedly put your life on the line, did some of the most hair-raising things to protect your country, and to see your country behave this way, that must be ...

A: It's pretty galling. But ultimately I believe in the good and the decency of the American people, and they're starting to see what's happening and the lies that have been told. We're seeing this current house of cards start to flutter away. The American people come around. They always do.

THE UNIT

What: Action-adventure about special-ops unit.
Where: CBS (Channel 2).
When: 9 p.m. Tuesdays.

 

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