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Barack Obama hoists the white flag over Stalinist health care proposals
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Telegraph
August 18, 2009
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Politicians returning to Washington after scrubbing off the tar and feathers acquired at town-hall meetings are bringing with them a blast of reality that has been absent from Obama’s dreamland regime since his inauguration. For months Obama had been trumpeting the indispensable nature of his “public option” in a new health care system. Suddenly, it is no big deal. Kathleen Sebelius, the Health and Human Services Secretary, is now telling Americans that taxpayer-funded insurance was “not the essential element”.
So, President Pantywaist is in full retreat; but he is desperate for some face-saving measure to pretend he has achieved revolutionary reform. The Senate should not oblige. Obama has no interest in genuine health care reform: as a Senator he voted against all the moderate, achievable measures that were proposed. So far as he was concerned, the worse things got for 48 million uninsured Americans the better: it might persuade them to buy into his socialist scheme, the primary objective of which was not relief of suffering but expansion of Big Government.
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August 18th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
No retreat no surrender! Keep up the pressure!!!
Henry Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Awww…….Is wittle Ezekial Emanuel gonna cwy big tears and go boom boom in his wittle pants?!?!!!
It’s over Bastards – You Lose!
David Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
nice try dood, don’t even think about goin back to sleep, this ain’t over.
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August 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
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FreedomOfSpeech Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
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big steve Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
You’re right. This is just a bargaining technique – I offer you $100, you say $50. We agree on $75.
This is a distraction.
vueflix Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
No retreat no surrender! Keep up the pressure!!
Walking the fence is asking for disaster join the resistance
jeffohio Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
He did not give up. This is a tactical move.
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August 18th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
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JAFO Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
There is no victory here people. This just proves what some of us were spouting all those months ago. The Insurance Companies are pushing this agenda, and under the guise of compromise, are going to get what they want. Tax dollars from you and me.
Michele Obamas MaMa Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
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President Pantywaist Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
lol
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Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:16 am
I hate to be the party pooper, But they ain’t gonna give it up that easy, they will use the good ole’ back door sneak to get it in!!
Besides, look at the Bill! A public option is what the entire thing is based on, without that there won’t be a Bill!
And the “other” way they can implement it is simply by using the Co-Ops. There won’t be anyone in it to begin with, so the Feds will have to step up to run things, and once they get involved, they NEVER get out!
The only way to keep the Government out of it, is to NOT let them get involved in the first place!
william b travis Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
we must completly kill this bill
not settle for a watered down version of it
and if it passes punish all senators and reps dem and repub
that vote for it in any form
Tatto Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Bill?…..how about take that energy an focus on the government.
You had a taste of free speech…Well? Did you like it?
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:17 am
ANd then push for a repeal of the total Bill from the New ones!!
Gone Baby Gone Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
OH you just wait! No matter the War or Fight, lets take a step back or 2, Rethink plan B or C
Then return after the rest,
Notice I didn’t say retreat,
There some big agendas here in plan A, So they will come at us from the side or back doors,
The plan of 10,000 lights are here, Remember he said It’s not going to be easy.
It has started.
Remember this
Unemployment, is still climbing
Banks are still failing,
A 2 week or more Bank Holiday, is coming! (Get some cash) or rolls of dollars,
And a few hundred in silver bullion,
Now when you get your check this week or next,
Get dry food, water, some sterno stoves & 1lb cans of propane for camping its cheap, Candles,
get a large can of coffee, tea, powder milk, couple case of the chicken soup mix cups, and don forget Hormel Spam, and the candy, Make sure its chocolate,
Now start with first aid, and then go to 2nd hand stores for back packs for storing
Well at least be prepared,
Kim American Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Not backing down. Not even an inch.
The Public is tired of being pushed around!
If you want to know how to make your voice heard look to the Seniors.
60,000 Seniors left AARP canceling their memberships!!!
Show these organizations, businesses, & Representatives that support our loss of freedom.
If they support it WE won’t support them!
Everybody keep up the good work.
Keep talking. Let others know what is going on!
Support boycott at http://www.atlah.org
LayThisToRest Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:47 am
They retreat, But we will not until this new world order is layed to rest, put out to pasture.
bj Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Who in their right mind would want to let a congress (11% approval rating) and president (approval rating dropping fastest in history) take control of their health care while social security is trillions in the hole? I am sorry, but even a flouride head with 30 annual flu vaccines has the mental capacity to figure this out. Same goes to the mandatory flu shots comming this fall.
How dumb do you have to be? This would be like going to a used car dealer who everyone in the town knows sells broke down cars that will run just enough for the person to just get home. The same dealer also manipulates the interest rates on the car loans. These facts are than printed in the town paper.
There will still be people in the town who will run to the dealer when they need a car, and the same person will take it up the keester with a smile on their face. Thank the Lord, it looks like the zombies are finally being diminished thanks to natural selection.
KEEP UP THE FIGHT AMERICA! It looks like people are starting to wake up! DONT stop the push!!
August 18th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
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obamunism Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
They are losing this one but I need not remind any one of you to watch this prez like a hawk.Be very vigilant cause the gov under O will try to pull something off we wont expect.America has wakened up to the deadly agenda of a non we the people government.Time will tell what they try to pull next 1collapse of mexico, swine flu ,bank holiday, new violence in pak or afg ,homegrown terrorists throw the dart at the board and take a guess.
Kim American Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
ALL of the above and the kitchen sink!
Autonomy_Now Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
They haven’t given up. Obama is simply working on a sneakier version.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Their saying 2 different things, Obama says no big deal, that Nancy Pilosi or whatever is saying that he didn’t say that.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Whatever…is the key word !!!
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:20 am
Exactly right!!! Their Whatever means…. Whatever works!!
August 18th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Woot!
August 18th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
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August 18th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Ive got a Gri Gri just for the situation
August 18th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fz85FE0KtQ
August 18th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
One small victory for us!!! Keep up the good work people!!! Long Live The Revolution!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
They will try again, they always do….keep the pressure on them!!
August 18th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Peaceful biker rally – BIKERS vs bankers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c84pZe-u-Q
PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD!
August 18th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Thank God! Good work patriots all over the USA. We need to keep exposing B.O. and his scumbag minions. Thank you God for giving us more time to fight these filthy elitists!! Proud of you all
fed up Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
This is why the post above makes no sense. “please mr. can you spare a piece of bread”
This is our country…built with the blood and sweat of all Americans. Bikers vs. banker’s sounds like it would be a good sequel to the movie hogs! Or whatever the name of it was>
RYE BREW Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
what have you done lately? were you out there protesting? did you flyer?
have you done anything other than comment on infowars.com and talk to like minded people about these issues?
"WE BLEW IT" . . . "WHAT?" . . . "WE....BLEW IT" Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
protest and ‘flyer’ all you want, its all been done before and its all failed. they hold all the cards, they hold THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU, all this “mainstrean news” stuff is bulls---, the bigest truth hidden by the bigest lie is yet to be revealed and it will be soon so you just sit back and buy a t-shirt, yeah?
RYE BREW Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Listen BITCH…you can sit around spewing domsday negative s--- all you want, in fact, go collect all the domsday followers you can, go buy some rebock tennies and drink the coolaid!!! Meanwhile me and my crokies will be protesting townhall meeting, flyering, interviewing, and demanding storys from our local papers and news broadcasting stations. TRUST guy, we have guns and land and if it comes to that we’ll take the correct measure. but until then there are millions of sleeping people that simply need to be woken up……so start doing your part you lazy bitch!!!
Fed the Fk Up Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Fk u- I don’t answer to you or anyone else of living flesh. But, if you fk’s think saying please is going keep elite from their agenda, you all fk’g living in another gd world! They know the people are not going to do jack s---! They are banking on it. Rob 24 trillion from us and we say please…fk that. and fk you…you will be standing behind me praying for my protection when they are coming through your town to pick you up and drag you to summer camp.
"WE BLEW IT" . . . "WHAT?" . . . "WE....BLEW IT" Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
that hogs movie was s--- but the biker image and hells angels symbolism used by the ‘bikers vs bankers’ and exploited by the illuminati movie industry, ever since ‘the wild one’ and zarkoff b-movie classics, in the 50’s / 60’s sure helps give their stance some weight.
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judging from the youtube link that is*
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:32 am
It was called “Wild Hogs”!
August 18th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Look for them to say they’re not going to include it and then Pelosi will add it back at the last minute for a vote. They will try to sneak this past all of us…. WATCH THEM LIKE A HAWK!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
They need to demonize the american gun owning militia extremist network of un-patriotic racist obama haters. we all know they’re gonna play dirty it’s just a question of when, lets take a poll, just reply with the numbered option. what do you think they’ll do first? . . .
1. assasination attempt on obama – failed – will used upfront ‘manchurian candidate’ public shooting then associate the shooter with the american truth movement.
2. the assasination of obama (too valuble to them at this point though, maybe)
3. release ’swine flu’ and broadcast bodies being dumped in mass graves – federal vaccines become manditory, those who refuse are sent to camp fema.
4. set off small nuclear devices in one or more major cities, blaming it on bin laden’s auntie.
5. complete US / UK then rest of the world global martial law lockdown – for any of the above reasons. everyone will or could be a suspect for some reason and they’ll use it as an excuse to round up and detain certain groups which they just want out of circulation.
6. the turning off of the internet – it will be claimed bin laden’s dog was using it to shop for chemicals and organise the city-centre nukes.
7. every minister, president and royal family member worldwide morphs back to their lizard, native form on live tv – david ike is given an OBE and all the lizards say sorry for decieving mankind then leave on a spaceship.
8. bush and cheeny are sentenced for their war crimes – obama condems them both and becomes a hero to anyone without internet access.
9. boarders between all nations come down and the depression dwarfs that of 1929, the remedy of a single global currency is bought forward – by which time those who survived the nuclear attacks and didn’t get killed by swine flu, will be so traumertised from seeing humans turn into lizards that they’ll say yes to anything.
10. the actual Jesus Christ appears out of nowhere, taking all the responsibility (again?!) and sorts out the warmongers murders and satanists. we all live in peace and love each other.
11. nuclear war breaks out, world war three – something to do with iran, russia, israel and the US having to ‘back someone up’ or respond to a US false-flag attack.
12. big oil liquidates all profits and assets in order to help the millions suffering and dieing due to lack of basic water and food supplies, on planet earth in the year 2009.
13. absolutly everything turns out to be a lie – a solar cycle completes on 2012 which is all the secret society scum ever cared about. a polar shift occurs and everyone who wasn’t electromagneticly protected loses their memory. they inverted a natural cycle in order to bring about hell on earth instead of it’s complete liberation.
14. bush gets up on tv and says ’sorry’ for helping enable the 9/11 attacks and regrets his family’s business dealings with the bin ladens – the CIA further reveals that no plane hit the pentagon and those that did hit the tower were drone-controled. it turns out everyone who went missing on those planes have been kept in a luxury underground bases and each received $10,000,000 in order to forfit their public lives. all broadcast mobile phone calls from 9/11 turn out to be the voices of paid actors.
15. alex jones himself turns out to be a shape-shifting lizard!
16. elvis emerges from hiding bald and very fat, releases a new album duet with jim morrison.
17. the continued application of the celebrity death decoy – the last remaining rock legends are killed off – bob dylan, mick jagger and cliff richard all die for no reason on the same day. internet goes down, the media and 90% of the worlds people are then occupied for at least a year with retrospectives and greatest hits albums.
18. UFOs come to earth – for real.
19. they stage UFOs coming to earth – using the latest movie technology combined with their Area 51 toys. the alien gets out of it’s ship and says ‘hello jesus’ to obama.
20. the religious nuts were right – obama actually turns out to be the satan and laughs openly, as america and then the world – burns.
Well those are the options folks. i’m hedging my bets on 12.
sumsrent Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
I always figured that Elvis would come back and do a new album with Michael Jackson…
Kim American Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
ALL the above & Throw in the kitchen sink!
Watch for 09/09/09. (inverted)
August 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Its not even a real fight yet
OH you just wait! No matter the War or Fight, lets take a step back or 2, Rethink plan B or C
Then return after the rest,
Notice I didn’t say retreat,
There some big agendas here in plan A, So they will come at us from the side or back doors,
The plan of 10,000 lights are here, Remember he said It’s not going to be easy.
It has started.
Remember this
Unemployment, is still climbing
Banks are still failing,
A 2 week or more Bank Holiday, is coming! (Get some cash) or rolls of dollars,
And a few hundred in silver bullion,
Now when you get your check this week or next,
Get dry food, water, some sterno stoves & 1lb cans of propane for camping its cheap, Candles,
get a large can of coffee, tea, powder milk, couple case of the chicken soup mix cups, and don forget Hormel Spam, and the candy, Make sure its chocolate,
Now start with first aid, and then go to 2nd hand stores for back packs for storing
Well at least be prepared
roaddog6 Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
yeah. They’ll just change tactics.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
i agree roaddog6. these are some sly mother lovers, my US brothers and sisters be wary.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:37 am
One thing that most don’t pay attention to about the good ole’ U.S.A., We may be slow to anger, but get enough of us riled up, and no matter who you are, you have a very large problem!
We also have a decent sense of smell, when the wind is right, we can smell the Bull @#% they are trying to shovel at us!!!
It isn’t over by far, but they just realized, we ain’t happy campers anymore! And we aren’t as scared of them as they thought!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Stal inist health care? You know A-J has sold out when he sides with bi g pha rma and the co rps to abo lish a pu blic OP TION!!!! It is only gover nment ins urance for the 40 million or so that are not covered. It is not even close to being sin gle pa yer like Can ada and a host of other countries YET this article says Sta lin ist healthcare. The sad thing about all this is that all you i nbr ed chi mps do not even have the capacity for rational thought and you buy all of -A-J-’s li es and are actually siding with the co rps and b ig pha rm a against your own interests. You guys are pa the tic. You think you are trut hers but in reality your are hen chm en for the elit es!
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Read the Bill, If you think it isn’t close to a single payer system, then they have you snowed! I can send you several things from the Bill PAGE AND LINE that will back up the Single payer issue as well as the MANDATED Rationing that they said didn’t exsist!
(and please calm down before you type, your spacing is terrible!)
August 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
We’re winning!
Deathdealer the Inbred Hick Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
You are winning only if you are part of the corps and big pharma!! If you are a hard working american, you are losing!!!! Too bad you are an inbred chimp without the capacity for rational thought!
Deathdealer the Inbred Hick Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
You are winning only if you are part of the co rps and b ig ph ar ma!! If you are a hard working american, you are losing!!!! Too bad you are an in bre d ch imp without the capacity for rational thought!
August 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
OBAMA seems kinda inteligent, at least compared to bush. with this in mind surely he knows that what he’s being asked to do, on many fronts at home and overseas – is wrong? that aside i can not believe that people really think tha its OBAMA making these decisions.
SO. OBVIOUS. THAT. HE. IS. A. PUPPET.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:48 am
I actually wanted to believe in Obama when he was campaigning, but when I found out what a liar he turned out to be, I decided to really get into the arena with the politicians and start yelling argueing or what ever it took to try and get this straightened out again.
What I DID Notice, was that Obama’s message changed AFTER he and Clinton met with the Bilderberg Group!
Ever since that meeting, EVERYTHING he promised and seemed passionate about was thrown to the wayside, and his EXTREME LEFTWING ideology came to the foreground!
With that being said, people such as myself WILL STOP his/Their AGENDA!!! Patriots will succeed, there is NO DOUBT in my mind!
August 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Israeli troops ‘kidnap’ Palestinians for organs
Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:29:24 GMT
http://www.presstv.com/detail......=351020202
A leading Swedish newspaper claims Israeli soldiers kidnap Palestinians to steal their organs and sell them in the black market.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
death to the illuminati
good will always prevail
August 18th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Ahahahahaha hahahahahah
Toooooooooooooooo bad, nice try Barry
August 18th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
I am glad people remember the Alamo!!
They will attack again when the numbers get low enough.
He will wait until they get through scaring us with the flu and soft kill everyone with forced vaccinations.
Then when the numbers are lower, they will force it through before the end of the year against our will just like the bailout money.
NO!! This is not peace.The Revolutionary War has begun and we are here to fight to the death. Now we know about your hatred towards Americans to propose a bill that would take away their liberty and right to live. Hand our rights over to your croony pharma and eugenics programs.
And BTFW, tell Congress we want our 500 Million Dollars back!!!They allocated 2 months ago ahead of your proposal. Put the money back and spend the TARRP money to save our private banks instead of sitting on it and driving them out of business for your global bank conglomerate.
Otherwise we are’nt going to send Grandma and Grandpa next time. It will be well armed Americans ready for your violent ACORN and Union goons who attacked their own people.
My hats off to the elderly for teaching them they still have more life than exists in Obamas pinky!!
Kim American Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Yep. 60,000 canceled membership with AARP. Way to go Seniors!
If any support the erosion of Our Rights don’t support them!
August 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Congress will NEED healthcare to have my foot removed from its ass if they DARE try to force “nationalized healthcare” on us again!
You Are An Inbred Chimp Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
You are an in b re d c hi m p! It wasn’t government he al thc are! It was go vern ment ins ura nce for those that do not have it! I di ot s like you are debating things that do not even exist! You truly are a d um b u ned uca ted r edn eck ch im p!
THE WATCHER Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:00 am
You Are An Inbred Chimp – You had damned well better be prepared to back up that bulls--- mouth of yours with fists, you all mouth, no ass colored boy.
THE WATCHER Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:18 am
You Are An Inbred Chimp – Keep talking bulls--- to a REAL MAN, I’M NOT A WIMP LIKE YOU, BOY! Go ahead, run that wienie washer of yours. One call to an old work associate of mine at a government agency and I’ll find out your “i.p.”, EXACTLY who you are, AND precisely where you live, then I can go into a database, pull up a photo and description of you, and view your entire life history, including your work, school, and medical records, plus the people with whom you associate. If you doubt what I’m saying, try me. I’ll GLADLY take a few days off to “visit” your sorry ass and find out just how tough you talk FTF!
Smoke and Mirrors Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:47 am
Your a lying fk’g pussy…..I put up with your bulls--- last week, now someone else is having to.It seems after reading many of your post, you pull the same crap.
I MADE IT REAL CLEAR WHERE I LIVE LAST WEEK. ALL THE WAY TO MY STREET THAT HAS TWO HOUSES ON IT…MR> FK’g EX CIA DICK.
But. you pussied out.I even told you to bring along a few freinds so I didn’t have to waste my time kicking just your ass.. Remember..Cowboy Ln. I am still waiting!!!
So knock off your big talk….change your handle, and try to add something worth wild to this site.
Everyone now know’s your full of s---, and nothing but talk.
So shut the f--- up, or take your fews days off and come see me. You best add some medical leave in there when you fill out your request for time at the 7-11 you work at!
The Inbred Watcher Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:34 am
You scare me as much as a slug would! You are the du mbe st most v il e re dne ck I have ever met….and the most del ud ed!!
The Watcher...The Dumbest Man Alive Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
You are an in b re d c hi m p! It wasn’t g ov ern m ent he al thc are! It was go vern ment ins ura nce for those that do not have it! I di ot s like you are debating things that do not even exist! You truly are a d um b u ned uca ted r edn eck ch i m p!
THE WATCHER Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:58 am
The Watcher…The Dumbest Man Alive – Let me make this perfectly clear – if you speak such bulls--- to me ftf, you will awaken connected to a venilator in intensive care, pussy mouth!
The Watcher King of the Chimps Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Your threats are as empty as your head. I am not scared or impressed. In fact, you are so dumb and pathetic I pity you. You are so full of hate violence and racism that you are eating yourself alive. You will remain a pathetic husk of a human being to your bitter end. Poor pathetic loser!!!
Ah ha Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:35 am
Personally, THE WATCHER, I think your a knob. Please do pull my ip and come visit me here in Europe. You won’t need a return ticket.
Kim American Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
HA-HA!!!
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:55 am
I like that, but realize, they aren’t done yet!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Just like most people here, you have nothing to offer!! You do not even try. You only use the lamest of arguments, you call me an elite. I am against the corps and big pharma and this makes me an elitist pig? Are you insane? The problem with society is dumb uneducated pieces of white trash like you. I am against Obamacare because it is a half measure. Healthcare should be universal and not a for profit business! You are the pig and a dumb one at that!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Just like most people here, you have nothing to offer!! You do not even try. You only use the lamest of arguments, you call me an elite. I am against the co rps and bi g p ha rma and this makes me an eli tist pig? Are you ins ane? The problem with society is du mb u ned uca ted pie ces of wh ite t ra sh like you. I am against O bam aca re because it is a half measure. Hea lthc are should be un iver sal and not a for p ro fit bus iness! You are the p ig and a du mb one at that!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
You are an in b re d c hi m p! It wasn’t gov ernme nt he al thc are! It was go vern ment ins ura nce for those that do not have it! I di ot s like you are debating things that do not even exist! You truly are a d um b u ned uca ted r edn eck ch im p!
WTF? Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Do you have a stuttering problem? Cuz you can’t type for s--- buddy. OMG stop drinking water from the tap you tool
THE WATCHER Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:24 am
The Watcher…The Dumbest Man Alive – Kiss my ass, you ghetto ass n i g g e r!
THE WATCHER Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:27 am
Yes, I said it. f--- ANYONE who doesn’t like it!
Ah ha Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:36 am
I don’t like it. And f--- you too, trick piece of s---!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
The puppet masters will cut the strings on Barry if he has losses on the rights-killing bills he has, is, and will continue to pass. We all know Barry Has more skeletons in his closet than an undertaker does. All it takes is a loss of confidence vote on their part and then we’ll see Barry exposed for what he really is. Come hook or crook, Barry is not going to be fired from his first job ever! You can take that to the FDIC insured bank!
THE WATCHER Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:31 am
Colonel Ingus – Would you care to wager a very substantial amount of money on whether or not Obama is going to be forced out of office?!
Hangman1 Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:23 am
I think Colonel Ingus is referring to the NWO’s “Retiring Presidents Plan”. They won’t force him out of office, they will frame up a patsie and kill his mostly white ass.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:58 am
Does everyone really want Obama out of office???
All it will take are three things to fail:
1. Stop Healthcare reform.
2. Stop the CIFTA Treaty
3. Stop The Climate Change Bill/ Cap and Trade
Stop all 3 of those Bills, and It’s almost a sure bet that the Bilderberg Group will kill him!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
I heard 25 percent of those 48 million people are illegals that dont have insurance.Arrest all politicians who would approve health care for illegals. Our evil polititicians have created an illegal refugee situation in this country-Arrest the ones who did nothing to seal out borders and those who want to give healthcare to illegals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lets take our country back!!!!!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
now that we have been greased for the possible future “cards on the table” if you will…we can assume certain outcomes ..do not react…just act…12 ppl showing up at an obama HC meet in arizona is an interesting outcome to what seemed to be one man getting coverage doing the same..the prep for this has been going on for some time now..active denial sys. tech. has had cosiderable upgades ..hardening of official buildings…inner cordon check points are up and running ..one thing i don’t get are the free speach zones from our last pharo…where are they..has the tech. gotten better in that field??? are we in for more of the HealthScare. it has to come soon as not to let the mind rest…wow what a movie
August 18th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Many of you may have seen this before but I just love seeing Obama getting reamed by this black preacher. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hFiab7fjak
Kim American Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Love Manning! ck. out today’s Manning Report http://www.atlah.org it is a daily roast of B.O.
Support his boycott of anything CFR!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
COME ORRRRN . . .
They need to demonize the american gun owning militia extremist network of un-patriotic racist obama haters. we all know they’re gonna play dirty it’s just a question of when, lets take a poll, just reply with the numbered option. what do you think they’ll do first? . . .
1. assasination attempt on obama – failed – will used upfront ‘manchurian candidate’ public shooting then associate the shooter with the american truth movement.
2. the assasination of obama (too valuble to them at this point though, maybe)
3. release ’swine flu’ and broadcast bodies being dumped in mass graves – federal vaccines become manditory, those who refuse are sent to camp fema.
4. set off small nuclear devices in one or more major cities, blaming it on bin laden’s auntie.
5. complete US / UK then rest of the world global martial law lockdown – for any of the above reasons. everyone will or could be a suspect for some reason and they’ll use it as an excuse to round up and detain certain groups which they just want out of circulation.
6. the turning off of the internet – it will be claimed bin laden’s dog was using it to shop for chemicals and organise the city-centre nukes.
7. every minister, president and royal family member worldwide morphs back to their lizard, native form on live tv – david ike is given an OBE and all the lizards say sorry for decieving mankind then leave on a spaceship.
8. bush and cheeny are sentenced for their war crimes – obama condems them both and becomes a hero to anyone without internet access.
9. boarders between all nations come down and the depression dwarfs that of 1929, the remedy of a single global currency is bought forward – by which time those who survived the nuclear attacks and didn’t get killed by swine flu, will be so traumertised from seeing humans turn into lizards that they’ll say yes to anything.
10. the actual Jesus Christ appears out of nowhere, taking all the responsibility (again?!) and sorts out the warmongers murders and satanists. we all live in peace and love each other.
11. nuclear war breaks out, world war three – something to do with iran, russia, israel and the US having to ‘back someone up’ or respond to a US false-flag attack.
12. big oil liquidates all profits and assets in order to help the millions suffering and dieing due to lack of basic water and food supplies, on planet earth in the year 2009.
13. absolutly everything turns out to be a lie – a solar cycle completes on 2012 which is all the secret society scum ever cared about. a polar shift occurs and everyone who wasn’t electromagneticly protected loses their memory. they inverted a natural cycle in order to bring about hell on earth instead of it’s complete liberation.
14. bush gets up on tv and says ’sorry’ for helping enable the 9/11 attacks and regrets his family’s business dealings with the bin ladens – the CIA further reveals that no plane hit the pentagon and those that did hit the tower were drone-controled. it turns out everyone who went missing on those planes have been kept in a luxury underground bases and each received $10,000,000 in order to forfit their public lives. all broadcast mobile phone calls from 9/11 turn out to be the voices of paid actors.
15. alex jones himself turns out to be a shape-shifting lizard!
16. elvis emerges from hiding bald and very fat, releases a new album duet with jim morrison.
17. the continued application of the celebrity death decoy – the last remaining rock legends are killed off – bob dylan, mick jagger and cliff richard all die for no reason on the same day. internet goes down, the media and 90% of the worlds people are then occupied for at least a year with retrospectives and greatest hits albums.
18. UFOs come to earth – for real.
19. they stage UFOs coming to earth – using the latest movie technology combined with their Area 51 toys. the alien gets out of it’s ship and says ‘hello jesus’ to obama.
20. the religious nuts were right – obama actually turns out to be the satan and laughs openly, as america and then the world – burns.
Well those are the options folks. i’m hedging my bets on 12.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Your right JeffOhio….he hasn’t given up…he’s got something up his sleeve….he gets what he wants….so do all the other scum that dare to call themselves representatives.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
This heathcare bill will be passed at 1AM with a majority vote in congress within 3 weeks of these a=hole going back from vacation. White flag my ass.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Oh. I think they vote by text messages nowadays. I don’t think most people even ever stay in DC, Maryland or Virginia anymore. I think the capitol has been empty for years.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
ohh yeah
August 18th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
America don’t be fooled by the Pro Government Health Care Program pundits.
It is important that we all understand we as a Free Market Society don’t have a Health Care System we have a Health Care Market.
The difference is that a system is integrated and controlled by a center of authority somewhere whereas a market is nonintegrated and controlled by supply and demand.
When you hear the words Health Care System, be careful. They are trying to fool you.
They will have you looking at the sleight of hand rather than the truth.
They will get your government and their media to tell you what their Facts are.
Understand that our current Health Care Market is like all markets in our world dominated by super money interests and they are protected by government at many levels.
Big business/industry have been working for years on passing the cost of Health Care to the employee and/or to anyone else but them.
Plus they dominate the Health Care Markets. Hospitals, Clinics, Medicine, Medical Equipment, Medical Methods, Medical Patients, Medical Research, Medical Insurance, Medical Unions.
So making Health Care expensive makes them more money and forces you to purchases Health Care Insurance so to afford Health Care.
Thus they make a killing with their Health Care Insurance business/industry as well.
Please look at who the dominate players in these business/industry.
We all are being hoodwinked.
For years they have been pressuring your governments to nationalize all or part of Health Care so they can increase their markets.
As they drive up their prices and control they lose business to those who truly can’t afford the rigged market prices.
Thus getting those of us who can’t afford to be in their market to be covered by a government program will insure a increase in their controlled Health Care Markets.
Please understand to control a market or what is called Monopoly all is needed is a consortium or groups that work hard at keeping a Oligopsony (controlling the price of things they purchase) and a Oligopoly (controlling the price of things they sale).
These things are very hard to do in a Free Market Economy so the enlistment of governments in their schemes are essential.
Those who support Socializing part are all of any Free Market are playing into the hands of a private consortiums plans.
They have done it many times government and them are so integrated now we can’t tell them apart and the government works on us without a conscience.
In the USA today we have over 143,000 governments. That’s Programs, Bureaucracies’ and Departments at Local, County (Parish), State and Federal levels. ( Not including all the NGO’s.)
Everyone of these governments Programs, Bureaucracies’ and Departments have investigative and enforcement powers (Policing).
We must also understand that those Policing don’t like restriction of their powers. They don’t like us having protections from them.
All Government governments Programs, Bureaucracies’ and Departments as we know for a FACT have violated the Guaranteed Rights and Privileges of this nations citizens.
This Government Health Care Program will as well.
For this reason along we must say NO to this attempt at fooling us again.
The ONLY solution for the USA Health Care Market is for government to do its job and STOP the CRIMINALS from controlling the Health Care Markets.
Make your Governments do their jobs. Protecting our society from criminals.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:02 am
Well Said!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Who can believe anything Obama says. He probably has something planned along with Pelosi and the other paid off Democrats. I know for certain Sandy Levin has his own agenda and will not and does not care what his constituents think. He says he has worked so hard on this bill. So folks you can count on him to send you down the drain.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Alex Jones= Gatekeeper Poseur..Thanks for the censorship, fake freedom of speech
TRUE THAT Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
be carefull he may track your IP get your home adress and have one of his boys come over to DOUBLE TAP YOU.
of course in AJspeak this mean to ream you mouth and ass? thats what i heard, don’t shoot the messenger.
p.s alex shouting in that make-up was twice as devil as obama, maybe alex should have stuck to acting? as his WAKING LIFE SCRIPT SAID he used to “be one of them” after all. that is being of course, one of the guys bundling a ‘truthspeaker’ into the back of an unmarked BLACK VAN.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Now Obama is Stalin… Ok right I get it… He’s now a mass murderer… Nice one… This is getting old… You’re all pissed because a black man is running s--- better than Bush… Doesn’t ANYONE remember how retarded he was… You people wouldn’t be happy with anyone… I’m getting tired of this site… It’s filled with right wing nutbags who only talk of revolution… Boring boring boring… It’s just the same s--- everyday I come here…
Kim American Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Bill.
Did you even bother to read the Bill or are you just going to follow B.O. blindly?
This Black Man Manning http://www.atlah.org isn’t buying the Shucking-N-Jiving!
Bye!
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:05 am
Bill….. Read and learn….
Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!
Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.
Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!
Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!
Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Health card will be issued!
Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your banks accounts for elective funds transfer.
Page 65 Sec 164: is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations: (ACORN).
Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!
Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example Translation: illegal aliens.
Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members your Health care WILL be rationed.
Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid.. No choice.
Page 124 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No judicial review against Govt Monopoly.
Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association The Govt will tell YOU what you can make! (Salary)
Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE!
Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payrolls.
Page 150 Lines 9-13: Businesss with payroll btw 251k & 401k who doesnt provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.
Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)
Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances /personal records.
Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax Yes, it says that!
Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors, low income and poor are affected.
Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty you have, youll all be paid the same!
Page 253 Line 10-18: Govt sets value of Doctors time, profession, judgment etc. Literally value of humans.
Page 265 Sec 1131: Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.
Page 268 Sec 1141: Federal Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.
Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS Cancer patients welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever Govt deems preventable re-admissions.
Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -Govt will penalize you.
Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Doctors what/how much they can own!
Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.
Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.
Page 341 Lines 3-9: Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.
Page 354 Sec 1177: Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people! Unbelievable!
Page 379 Sec 1191: Govt creates more bureaucracy Tele-health Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone?
Page 425 Lines 4-12: Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life patients.
Page 425 Lines 17-19: Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!
Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. (assisted suicide)
Page 427 Lines 15-24: Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends.
Page 429 Lines 1-9: An advanced care planning consultant will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.
Page 429 Lines 10-12: advanced care consultation may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOVT!
Page 429 Lines 13-25: The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life!
Page 469: Community Based Home Medical Services = Non profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17: PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORIGINATION. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based organization. Like ACORN?
Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage?
Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
I hope you’re all happy now… And will you shut the f--- up? Most of you backwards hillbillys haven’t seen a doctor in years anyway but you just don’t want a black man to tell you what’s what… Greats now there’s no public health or universal health care and it’s back to same s--- as it was… We’re are f---ing 36th in the world in health services right next to f---ing Slovenia… Wow great for the only super power in the world… All the other countries are laughing at us… I suppose it’s better to build bombs than see a f---ing doctor… Thanks paranoid people… Now will you shut the f--- up about Obama? Probably not… You have no lives and nothing to do but post retarded crap here… I’m going somewhere else… Alex Jones is just a shill… Thanks for everything…
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Read the Bill, Everything that has been discussed is in there, and by the way, I personally can’t afford to buy health insurance due to sustained injuries! Do I want something done to lower prices, YES! But not at the expense that Obama is charging! (And I don’t care if he’s Purple with green polka dots, I don’t wnat the Federal Government that involved in my life!)
Vincent Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:00 am
You don’t want the Govt in your life? So your water doesn’t have to be clean? The food labels don’t have to be on your food? The cars don’t have to be inspected? Your employer can refuse to pay you? Your neighbor can drain his sewage on your property? Health Care should be a universal right of all people. Without a public option or single payer the corporations will win again. They will mandate coverage and pass the cost on INCLUDING PROFITS to us all. We are now spending 300-400 billion per year on administration costs! Why? Because people want to give corporations the right to exploit what should be our basic right to healthcare. Yeah well we all got taken again because of disinfo the few honest people won’t be allowed to tell the truth. It’s a bad man’s world.
Thorne in Their Side Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Vincent, Here’s the deal….. The way this country was set up originally, the Federal Government was to negotiate foreign trade, and the State Governments were to deal with the individual problems that arose thru the normal course of things! During WWI, we deviated of this natural course due to corrupt individuals wanting more power and control. Where the Federal Government was to be involved with State decisions, was to REGULATE trade between the States, That is all. The Power grab was brought about using the Interstate Commerce Clause in the Constitution! Due to that 1 clause, the Federal Government has insinuated itself into our daily lives. Hell, you can’t even grow your own food on your own land without the Federal Government telling you that you need a permit, (For food safety of course, heaven forbid some relative from out of State eats from your Table!)
But due to it’s desire to control every aspect of our lives, it is DEFINETLY a Very BAD THING!
We have the Best healthcare system in the world, We don’t need it fixed! What we need is MORE competitive Markets, Not Government markets. For an example of Government running ANY market, Look at what happened when the Soviets tried to stablize the food costs to it’s people during the 80’s, NO one had hardly any food!
In H.R. 3200, it has several provisions that does set it up for people to be denied care due to age, disability, and so on. How can you think that the Public Option would be ANY good for ANYONE that you cared for? They will tell you what kind of care you can get, and if Grandma is 92 and needs a Hip replacement, she WON’T get it, due to viability of the proceedure vs. the cost! That kind of mentality I won’t stand for, from either private insurance or government involvement!
And there is a SOLID section in the bill that wants the Taxpayers to pay for Illegal Immigrants to recieve healthcare from ANYWHERE they chose, basically forgiving them for breaking the Law by being here in the first place!
There are just TOO MANY loopholes for bad things in this Bill that Millions of people DON’T want, and will do what they feel they have to to get it trashed, and started over at the State level where it belongs!
August 18th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
911truth movement sets the course’—>
——–
but this isnt a victory of 911 truth—-this is something else —a victory in the fake msm—
basically by truthers turning their attention towards it
we have new allies—at different levels–with different influences—that are gathering
most of them are bitches
but they can help too—-and things evolve—and get better and better towards ending this trouble
we are going to have to learn to get help from places we might normally not have considered—
strange new friends in high places probably too===
same old s--- though==nothing new as far as healing this stuff—-just new places to travel
f--- THIS STUPID UN BULLs---–
in a way this thing is kind of on autopilot—apart from the truthers probably now too
August 18th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
too bad there couldnt be universal non slavery health charity for the poor
too bad there couldnt be real environmentalism
but thanks to the un====these issues dont exist for real
STOP THE “GLOBAL WARMING” AIR TAX TO UN COMMUNIST BABYKILLERS
LETS DISPERSE ALL THIS STUPID BULLs---
f--- THOSE LUCIS TRUST PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PUSH SECULAR ATHEISM ON PEOPLE AGAINST THEIR WILL
TRUE FREEDOM FOR ALL—-THIS STORM WILL PASS
jyguy Reply:
August 18th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
not achieving the 911 truth hoax revelation—is a severe defeat
dont listen to flatterers —-this is not a victory=-==
this is all smoke and mirrors bulls---—\\
they have not even yet begun to see the victory of the patriots
August 18th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
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August 19th, 2009 at 12:11 am
im going to say this slowly,
1 in THREE white americans get CANCER….. this is not by chance, most of you are eating poison that is slowly soft-killing you…..
toxic water (still drinking from the coffee machine at work?) , most of your food is nutrientless, and has been irradiated, mcdonalds/burger king/wendies, and you had the shots when you were young, which has live-cancer viruses in….
moving on, listen closely, the elite are into the occult and satanism (watch “ORDER OF DEATH” and “BROTHERHOOD OF DARKNESS” – Dr Stanley Monteith)
watch “NEW ATLANTIS : SECRET OF AMERICA’s BEGINNINGS” ,
how high is the washington monument? 555feet , how deep is it in the ground, 111 feet… mmmm, lets add those up…
the US government doesnt govern anything, there is an entire shadow government in place and they have the real power….. the FED? who cares about the Fed…
u could fire obama and all the senators and all the congressmen and end the fed, and own one million guns and 10 billion rounds of ammo
NO DIFFERENCE whatsoever….. it wouldn’t even start to dent the real Elite and their Real agendas….
wake up, acting tough and macho while you eat fast-food and drink any tap water is ridiculous and quite pathetic…
this is not a game
this is your entire life, your eternal soul and your family and their health at stake…
take care and God bless
Steven
contactable on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
nobody Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:18 am
These people hold some symbolic power true, but the issue on healthcare was to pull you out of an economic crash. By 2020/2025 the insurance cost will be up to 25% of your economy and you keep making these trials by supposition. By doing that you have burn the political capital that was build over the 9/11 mess.
Face it, what you have hearn is not a victory. The public will later judge you severly for that stunt.
Hey Alex, way to go Coster!
August 19th, 2009 at 1:15 am
Yesterday on Euro News ,as usuall the did show the headlines of some Europeans journals. One of them was a German journal called “Dietageszeitung” not sure about the spelling that had presented obama dressed as Doctor! And the said Dr. obama and his health care…
In one words the title was making fun of him and his position on this rotten health plan! They know what is going on.
After that came News! And the first headline was Afganistan and they showed obama speech ” declaring war on afganistan because “America was in danger”!
August 19th, 2009 at 1:35 am
People need to wake up and realize this Health Care boom in the media is just a distraction. Anythign that the media blows up and is all over the papers…is usually something that is being used to distract us from other important events
August 19th, 2009 at 1:40 am
http://911essentials.com says the bloom is off the rose.
August 19th, 2009 at 2:09 am
20 million of those 40 million or so Americans without health
insurance are ILLEGAL ALIENS.
That’s the real agenda, to make hard working American citizens
pay for law breakers who stole social security IDs to also steal
jobs from American Workers.
Look at any contruction site, it’s mostly illegals. Americans used
to hold those jobs, now gone with the wind.
Get on board with over 1 million Patriots at NUMBERSUSA.com
We’re lobbying Congress hard to stop amnesty and health care for
illegals.
Also check out fairus.org, The Terry Anderson Show on internet radio and
Frosty Wooldridge, a real hero!
Bill Swensen Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:10 am
You know what a real hero would be? Someone who doesn’t repeat the same tired hack bulls--- over and over like a Chatty Cathy doll…
Riposte Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Thought you were leaving you ignorant twit.
klaatu Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Section 246 of the current Health Care Reform bill states that people that are in the US illegally cannot get their coverage paid for by the government.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:00 am
This is a small example of what an educated public can achieve!
August 19th, 2009 at 5:37 am
All that feigned outrage at those town meetings is insurance company sponsored.
August 19th, 2009 at 6:55 am
They’re hoping we’ll flinch. Don’t. Keep up the pressure and indeed, increase the pressure. For instance, up the pressure for barky to release his records, ALL his records. The bastard’s FIRST official act was to seal all his records by EO. WHY?!
August 19th, 2009 at 7:07 am
THANK YOU GOD!!!
August 19th, 2009 at 11:47 am
They can take the constitution and stick up their ass! I will still live free. A piece of paper doesn’t give you freedom or liberties. It is your duty to stand against those who oppose the idealism of such freedoms and liberties. Otherwise you will be a slave with nothing, compared to a slave with material processions. Neither really is worth a s--- are they? We have let them rob us of our beliefs, not what is written on a piece of paper. It is time to take back what is ours.
The insurance companies and the Government do not run this country. WE THE PEOPLE DO. Now grab your boot straps and lets get busy, before it is too late.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Just a tad premature there guys. The Dems can bypass the filibuster mechanism by adding on to the Health Care Reconciliation found in the budget, which has already been passed. Sneaky but well within the legislative rules.
August 19th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
who f---ing cares about health care you f---ing pussies.
make money, and pay a doctor if you get sick you f---ing idiot americans.
blah, blah, blah.
your just buying into the bull s--- by arguing about this f---ing gay topic.
i f---ing hate american idiots
i hope you all get vaccinated\
August 19th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
now that we have the momentum lets put a stop to this bunch of ass holes that called them self elites once and for all!!!!! god i would love to kick one of them on the nuts right about now!!!!
August 19th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
This is a letter written by Dr. Stephen Fraser to Senator Bayh. If you would like to send it on to your Congressman, he says to feel free to copy it and send it around to our friends and to senators and representatives.
July 23, 2009
Senator Bayh,
I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.
Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!
Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.
Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!
Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!
Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise
Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Health card will be issued!
Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your banks accounts for elective funds transfer.
Page 65 Sec 164: is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations: (ACORN).
Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!
Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example Translation: illegal aliens.
Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members your Health care WILL be rationed.
Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid.. No choice.
Page 124 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No judicial review against Govt Monopoly.
Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association The Govt will tell YOU what you can make! (Salary)
Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE!
Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payrolls.
Page 150 Lines 9-13: Businesss with payroll btw 251k & 401k who doesnt provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.
Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)
Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances /personal records.
Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax Yes, it says that!
Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors, low income and poor are affected.
Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty you have, youll all be paid the same!
Page 253 Line 10-18: Govt sets value of Doctors time, profession, judgment etc. Literally value of humans.
Page 265 Sec 1131: Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.
Page 268 Sec 1141: Federal Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.
Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS Cancer patients welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever Govt deems preventable re-admissions.
Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -Govt will penalize you.
Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Doctors what/how much they can own!
Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.
Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. Can u say ACORN?!!
Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.
Page 341 Lines 3-9: Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.
Page 354 Sec 1177: Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people! Unbelievable!
Page 379 Sec 1191: Govt creates more bureaucracy Tele-health Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone?
Page 425 Lines 4-12: Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life patients.
Page 425 Lines 17-19: Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!
Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. (assisted suicide)
Page 427 Lines 15-24: Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends.
Page 429 Lines 1-9: An advanced care planning consultant will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.
Page 429 Lines 10-12: advanced care consultation may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOVT!
Page 429 Lines 13-25: The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life!
Page 469: Community Based Home Medical Services = Non profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?
Page 472 Lines 14-17: PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORIGINATION. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based organization. Like ACORN?
Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage?
Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.
Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills you and your colleagues are debating.
Respectfully,
Stephen E Fraser MD
August 19th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
LAW22- USE THE SURRENDER TACTIC: TRANSFORM WEAHNESS INTO POWER
August 20th, 2009 at 4:09 am
Your surrender proposal is not acceptable!
August 20th, 2009 at 5:01 am
For a site thats fights govt propaganda ALEX JONES sure does use alot of FOXNEWS to make his points! But thats okay fox news is a totally legit news agency right, with no bias whatsoever…..LOL
August 20th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
They’ll be back,
it aint over.
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