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    Aaron Dykes
    Jones Report
    April 25, 2008

    Members of We Are Change UK questioned ex-BBC reporter Phil Hayton about the early reporting of WTC 7’s collapse during a speaking appearance.

    Hayton failed to recollect even being in the studio on the day of 9/11– at first– but then recalls the situation when it is described in detail, including the actions of Jane Standley, who reported the collapse some 26 minutes in advance with WTC Building 7 still visible in the background.

    "A lot of eyebrows were raised," We Are Change reporters point out in summary, because many saw it as a clear controlled demolition, including a number of engineers.

    Hayton responded, pointing out that he was not aware of the situation with WTC 7. "This sounds so significant– I’m just amazed I didn’t know about this… This is completely news to me."

    "So, is there no official explanation?" Hayton further probed.

    We Are Change continues to explain the delayed NIST report on WTC 7 as well as the response from a BBC editor who claimed 9/11 tapes were "lost" in a ‘cock-up.’

    "I sense that you think there’s a conspiracy here– but you might be right," Hayton concluded.

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    On a previous occasion, We Are Change UK reporters contacted Jane Standley by phone about the telling incident. Standley, unlike Hayton, was not surprised by the revelation, but became uncomfortable and hurriedly ended the conversation, only commenting that she had been "harassed" about the situation already.

    Surely, it is clear that neither Standley nor Hayton were ‘in on a conspiracy’– rather they were used and fed information. However, Hayton seems willing to admit it while Standley has thus far been unable to answer for the suspicious incident ahead of the unexplained collapse.

    The suspicion surrounding early media reporting of WTC7’s collapse– which Aaron Brown of CNN also announced– only exacerbates the demolition apparent that many police, fire fighters and other emergency workers were told about in advance and which many other news anchors described as being like a ‘deliberately destroyed’ building.

    Further, WTC lease holder Larry Silverstein said that the building was "pulled" and rescue worker Kevin McPadden has reported hearing a countdown to Building 7’s demolition.

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    144 Responses to “BBC Anchor Who Reported on WTC7 Collapse Early Agrees There May Be a ‘Conspiracy’”

    1. madmax Says:

      duh?

    2. WATCHER Says:

      lol

    3. tbonethedstroyer Says:

      Heck of a job fellas!
      Checck this out…..http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TwoPeas.html
      It’s kind of long and you have to sift a little, but there are some interesting thoughts there……..

    4. TXGIRL Says:

      Watcher, Hey, how are you today? It’s pretty active out here, and plenty of news happening, too. What’s your take? How about that poor guy, Gary with We Are Change?

      May need a tag:RML68@OPTONLINE.NET

    5. shane banta Says:

      i think he’s play-in dumb!

    6. An EUropean Voize Says:

      leave Standley, please, she might risk her life

    7. Newsiegirl Says:

      no one answered so I guess not

    8. strangelovecraft Says:

      What the f--- is the internet?

    9. Prex Versus Says:

      Again I say: WHO CARES? If you already know how WTC7 was demolished, why are any of you wasting your time trying to get the politicians to admit to it? Will it make feel all fuzzy and warm inside when you get your answer? Thinking it will change anything? You are wasting your time and spinning your wheels. WAC is a no action group, just stirring up drama. You can’t fight the NWO by whining about things that happened years ago.

    10. Newsiegirl Says:

      yes Freedom, I saw people talking about trading emails and match.com somewhere in chat

    11. FREEDOM KID Says:

      Newsiegirl, you probably would do well to hook up with a guy from this site, if you’re anti N.W.O., pro constitution, and not a frauthing women’s libber

    12. Newsiegirl Says:

      Women’s libber, isnt that an old phrase. Or do they still do that? I am def. anti nwo and pro Alex J. but I asked cause I saw them giving addresses and thought maybe there is a place with profiles and stuff.

    13. FREEDOM KID Says:

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    14. FREEDOM KID Says:

      in fact it’s not a dating site at all really, but it would be a good place to look, while you’re fighting corruption…

    15. Newsiegirl Says:

      broke up with boyfriend because he said I was stupid and that I believed everything I read on youtube about 911. He says the IRS is legal and all and that only the lunatics fringe belive that stuff. I think he is wrong and not only that, he is a bully too. I got tired of him thinking he was so smart and had him watch End Game and he fell asleep half way thru and said it wasnt very good. That was about all I could take.

    16. doctordrewl Says:

      Wow…. this is a powerful video… the clear presentation of the evidence was overwhelming to this bloke….

    17. Frank Says:

      Newsiegirl, thats awesome. Since I’ve become actively involved in researching, I also found that U-tube visually confirmed what I was reading in many other places presenting an alternate History, and a whole new reality. Some of the people in my life started saying Id finally lost it. However, I’ve stuck to my convictions, and most of the people who argued with me are now coming on side and seeing this manufactured dream world for what it is. All I can say is good for you. Its better to die with your eyes open, than to live your life asleep.

      Anyone who denies something sinister behind the push towards global control and the totalitarian police state in the name of security is scared. But not of the conspiracy. Their scared of the work and responsibility that will then fall on them as knowing citizens in this doped up world of spin.

      Kudos. Me and my wife would gladly watch hours of video with you, and wouldn’t try to pick you up either ;-)

    18. Eric W. Says:

      Lie, lie, deny and then once confronted with the evidence they confess. This is why We Are Change and the work they do is so important, we in the fight HAVE TO come to our brothers aid when they need it. Especially if you don’t have the balls to do what they do. We’ve gottem’ on their heals, all they need is just a little nudge and people all over the world will see them for what they are, cold hearted killers and not the knights on a white steed.

      DTTNWO, LLTR

    19. HalfAsleep Says:

      “Its better to die with your eyes open, than to live your life asleep.” Thanks Frank, I need to remember that.

    20. This_N_That Says:

      leave us also die with our boots on

    21. Frank Schlözer Says:

      “you might be right..” ? and..? I don’t like it sometimes when people edit the original footage. I would have liked to hear all of his statement.

    22. TheGirlWhoListensToGaryTheSpacemanBellOnAM640Toronto Says:

      #12 Newsiegirl

      HIS LOSS!

      Watch the women’s lib stuff. The Rothschild’s – Illuminati/Zionist monsters organized that evil organization. It’s a trap, It broke up the family, now the kids are wards of the state. The Lesbians are teaching in schools, programming kids and threatening children about the use of Mother and Father. CIA ops Gloria Steinem’s mantra was “First we go after the men.” It had nothing to do with liberating women, just an assault on men WHO WERE NOT OUR OPPRESSORS. Steinem’s ragmag MS. was CIA funded. You can’t legislate rights. No gov. has that power. You’re born with rights. Ya just gotta protect them. It’s what the Constitution was about.

      Just to let you know the the Chicago Seven were government plants to stir up trouble, Jane Fonda’s husband Tom Hayden was one – Commie married Commie – Kent State was organized.

      Sorry for preaching, just trying to look out for you

      Newsiegirl You deserve a truther guy, maybe a WAC. Someone who stands for justice. Those are a real catch. Real men – ‘gotta love ‘em’

    23. Michael Says:

      Frank your right there, they should of let us see how he finished, so we can get the context of it.

      Class interview though, and seeing him ruffled like that. How could you forget you worked on 911.

    24. Alex Jones is a fraud Says:

      go to youtube and search alex jones y2k

    25. Don Says:

      Awesome! Please keep us updated on his reply to the e-mail, he sounds like an honest guy who may actually look into it. Refreshing to see someone speak so candidly and from the heart, something you never see in the US propaganda media machine.

    26. Buck Johnson Says:

      You want to no why they will never say that WTC 7 was demolished, it’s because they won’t have a viable lie for the follow up questions that will be asked. Questions like, if you demolished or PULLED the building how where you able to get the demolition company down to the area to set the explosives while all roads where being used for out traffic after the worst terrorists incident in recorded US history? Two, what company did you use for the demolition of the building and how was it possible for them in a matter of 2 to 3 hours plan set up and execute a controlled demolition on the spot while this craziness was going on (especially when everytime they PULL buildings, it takes weeks and weeks to make sure everything will go right)?

      We saw that almost pristine building except for a little damage fall in it’s own footprint, we didn’t see any massive holes or raging fires throughout the building but yet it came down, we had silverstein saying “we decided to pull it” which is a term used in building demolition, we had people and rescue workers being told that the building was being brought down, and we have reporters reporting almost 30 minutes before WTC 7 came down reporting that it was down while in the live feed it was clearly still standing. They can’t say it because it wouldn’t be possible to PULL it after the incident in that limited amount of time. And they can’t say it was set up before hand because they would be implying that they knew an incident was going to happen the next day (prior knowledge of a terrorists attack).

      They have to stick with the lie regardless because the follow up questions will be impossible for them to lie their way out of.

    27. Ieda_EVERYBORY_prepared_to_ put_DOWN_HERODES_and_NWO Says:

      He didn’t remember!!! Good… CAM’s was allowed on that days! I miss those days also
      Great JOB Kids!
      Do you know?
      The only thing WE ARE CHANGE didn’t asked him was:
      Where is the PANCAKE THEORY?
      I bet ya… He could remember very well…
      And also I can predicted his answer
      He must answered:
      The PANCAKE ?
      The PANCAKE I just put all over my WOODFACE before get interview by you Kids!

    28. Alex Jones Sales OUT ! Says:

      Every second click makes him money…

      “Read entire article”

      $2000 dollars per banner per month to advertise on his sites. Thats $12,000 for this page alone.

      Hes radio show is owned by ABC,which is Disney.

      Hes a bully which also means hes a coward.

      Hes as bad as the people he screams about.

      He spreads fear instead of solutions.

      Project Mockingbird————–hes part of it.

    29. That Sasquatch Says:

      Shut your filthy TROOL ass #28. Quit trying to discredit a free sourse of untainted information.

    30. Ron Paul Republican Says:

      Alex Jones Sales Out? Dont you mean Sells Out? Or is that expression to new for you. All websites have the potential to make money.

    31. Mik1984 Says:

      I understand the need of free speech, but there should be some measures against trolling like in every other forum.

    32. internet business owner Says:

      if you dont know that we are in the information age which means information is money that is your own ignorance.even kids with their transformers blogs make money,are they sell outs?the internet is about traffic and information some get more traffic than others so they charge more for ads or pay per click rates etc.. since most people do not know REAL business{getting rich helping others} they assume everyone that makes money is a sellout.

    33. GetAClue Says:

      Hayton, if he continues to express doubt about the “official” theory of events, may find himself suddenly succumbing to “cancer”, like Peter Jennings.

      Hopefully, he’ll do some investigating on his own and out the buggers who pulled off this self-inflicted wound.

    34. Alex Jones Sales OUT ! Says:

      he posts an article about how Al Gore is profiting from global warming and yet hes profiting from the truth movement.i guess thats okay cause we all like the truth movement.

      90% of his articles are from mainstream media sites…5 years ago or less there was alot more free articles written by other patriots in the movement.

      i only stated facts…we all like facts right ? unless they are something we dont want to hear or admit… dont think i deserve to be cussed at .

      im not a troll either… i have been a huge supporter of Alex when his hsow first came on in Austin before any of you ever heard of him.

      I think its more that he plays like hes doing this all for the “cause” when really its all for the money.I have talked to numerous people he used to work with locally that now refuse to.Why?ive been told by these people he makes between 25,000 and 40,000 per month on websites and video sales.Thats alot more then anyone of us who hits the streets and holds up signs.

      i wouldnt care if he openly said he makes cash off it but he plays like hes makes and average american income when he doesnt.

      What about ABC /Disney owning the radio station ?

    35. Nahuatl Says:

      Excellent job guys!

    36. Crossfire0 Says:

      #34

      Exactly how long do you think Alex would be able to do this without funding? Without money to pay employees to write these stories, and to make the website continue functioning, and to make DVD’s…you think he should do all that for free? Is Alex Jones driving a porche? Does he eat caviar at expensive French restaurants and jet-set across the world? Don’t be an idiot, Alex is here to educate ignorant people like you. If you don’t feel that he’s doing a good job, then don’t buy any DVD’s.

    37. internet business owner Says:

      unless alex lives under what the elite call the SIX FLAG THEORY,but he does not, after expenses because his busines is online and offline{online business are way cheaper to run}, even if he made a million a year{about $85.000 a month},which is nothing compared to REAL WEALTH,he still has to pay taxes which is 20 to 30 percent.if his business was online only and he showed signs that he is executing the SIX FLAG THEORY then i would be a little skeptical,and money changes people no matter how strong their will but that does not mean he is selling out.he uses mainstream articles because they are more credible to the unknowing public.i do not know about the disney thing i would have to ask somebody on here that knows more about that.so what we should do is what he is doing design an informative site{content is king on the internet} and drive as much traffic to it as possible{alex always says he can not do it all himself so start your thing he says}i am working on doing this same thing to do my part because of my business skills.the site will make money but that is not my concern i will use it to spread the word.

    38. ronnie Says:

      If alex is making alot of money more power to him.America was built for free enterprise the govt. he’s exposing is taking that right away

    39. ANARCHYisKING Says:

      if there are any people on this website who have money they might want to consider starting a commune. if you don’t know what a commune is google it. there are many types of communes from christian communes to hippie communes to eco-villages here in the usa.
      i think we should start an “infowarriors commune”. if you agree with most of the information on this website you would be welcome to go and live(or visit) at the infowarriors commune. it would take a few acres up in the mountains to get started. everything is free as long as each commune member does his job(which is only a few hours/day). from what i have seen each commune has gardeners, hunters, fisherman, cooks, carpenters and so forth.
      i stayed at a commune in north carolina one time. it was fun. i think it would be great for the like-minded individuals on this site to have a place to gather and possibly live. of course we would bear arms and there is no telling how big this commune could become. i have seen communes as small as 20 people and communes as big as 300 people. you never know this could even become a city.

      Infowarriors, USA pop. 434 is what the sign might say one day when someone passes thru. lol

    40. Dan Says:

      In a sane world this would of been investigated immediately.

      Who was working at the BBC that day
      Who was responsible for the scripts
      and simply followed up.

      But oh no lets just scrap that video and call it a conspiracy.

    41. bryan Says:

      bizzare

    42. MARCY-DARE Says:

      they,re practicing enslaving us right in front of us.
      here we are , you stupid sheeple,we,re comming to get you he,he.
      continue doing absolutly nothing ,its not happenning,
      go back to sleep.everythings fine,
      i,m not killing you right now
      it,s a conspiracy!

    43. Frank Schlözer Says:

      i think that Hayton is somewhat a mixture between slick and credible.. but the slick part is more obvious. Notice how he can’t remember what he did on 9/11.. this guy is a journalist and he never even heard of 9/11 ‘conspiracy’? I don’t think so…

    44. Frank Schlözer Says:

      it would have been an interesting question who fed them the news about WTC7… but i’m sure he couldn’t or wouldn’t or didn’t want to remember that -.- . But that would really be an interesting question.

    45. Frank Schlözer Says:

      however, just one more blatantly hillarious fact about 9/11. A bbc live report about the collapse of WTC7, 20 minutes before it happened -.- In your face.

    46. Tim Says:

      It’s the same Old tactics used by Government propaganda minions.
      Always make the good guys, look like the bad guys.
      Especially anyone that brings Youthe Truth of matters at Hand……..

    47. Tim Says:

      hey I have news fo ryou people out there.
      This Government doesn’t work for , “We te people.” Not anymore!

      They work for the british crown and their bankers, BAR, and the Multi-national incorporations that are piloted out of Britains markets.

      LOOK? The EU is banning Bag pipes?
      That’s the samething England did to the Scots, under Longshanks……

    48. Tim Says:

      Hey? British Killed American Colonists left & right. Right before the Revoltionary war. What do you think the Free Masons are?

    49. Tim Says:

      yeah. I’m a little tired of the sophism being displayed around here.

      people making crap up out of thin air. Kind of like the FED.

      “Let’s make things more sophisticated that they really are.”

    50. Frank Schlözer Says:

      sophism? What do you mean? Explain.

    51. crystal Says:

      Frank Schlözer – I think Hayton is genuine. There is a danger in
      accusing or suspecting everyone who isn’t aware of the real 9/11 story (truth) of being slick or part of the conspiracy. It makes the movement appear to be paranoid – which is not where the focus should be. Educate don’t alienate.

    52. A Slave to Fascism Says:

      He’s full of it.

    53. Frank Schlözer Says:

      yeah, well, but he’s supposed to be a journalist. And never heard about alternate versions of the official story. And he doesn’t remember where he was on 9/11. That seems very unlikely. Everyone remembers what he/she was doing on 9/11. Also, he’s working for the BBC AND reportet WTC7 coming down in advance. Remember that many journalists are on the CIA payroll. That was already true in times of Iran/Contra. And with a (trillian/gazillion/whatever-illion) dollar defense budget we can be sure that many many others are paid.

    54. Eric Says:

      Ha! Conspiracy nuts! Are you telling me that an isolated fire on an upper floor can’t collapse a skyscraper in a short amount of time? It happens all the time. That’s why one must be careful because if there is a small fire it will knock it down on its footprint every time in free fall speed.

    55. ray Says:

      These kool aid drinking/conspiracy theorists neocons are nuts! They believe that two planes knocked down three buildings hahaha what kooks

    56. Frank Schlözer Says:

      yeah, everytime i fry sausages on my barbecue cooker, i run away because it’s collapsing to it’s own footprint in freefall speed and leaves molten metal in the ground for 3 weeks.

      Just because a guy has a clean haircut doesn’t mean he speaks the truth.
      I just have a gut feeling that this guy is slick.

    57. Tim Says:

      RE: Frank Schlözer

      soph·ism [sof-iz-uhm]
      –noun 1. a specious argument for displaying ingenuity in reasoning or for deceiving someone.

    58. ProudPrimate Says:

      Rather a decent bloke, it seems to me

    59. TXGIRL Says:

      #58 Frank, my condolences on the death of your BBQ pit, lol! Good One.

    60. Frank Schlözer Says:

      it just seems so unlikely that journalists haven’t figured out 9/11 yet. They do research for a job! That’s what they’re supposed to be doing. 9/11 happened 7 years ago and the web is full of movies about it. The proof is just in your face and journalists use the internet as a basic tool. Noone can tell me that noone of these ‘journalists’ stumbled across 9/11!! So this ‘this is total news for me’ story just doesn’t add up.

    61. ProudPrimate Says:

      Remember in the full version of the Standley piece, there was a point when the sound broke down for a brief time, or was it the video link from NYC seemed to deteriorate. Then they tried to get her to comment and she refused, several times, and finally said, “Nada”.

      Just now as I type it occurs to me that it may have been inablility to hear from London on her earpiece, now that I think about it. All this time, I’ve assumed she was refusing to talk because she knew she was reading a false statement. Now suddenly I’m thinking “nada” makes more sense as a measure of what she could hear. Anyone seen that whole video I’m talking about?

    62. Frank Schlözer Says:

      no, where is it?

    63. Ben Says:

      Crazy. All this information needs to be assembled and presented in a trial format. Sworn witness testimony, courthouse rules, citizen run. Invite the neocons, give them equal time.

    64. LEO Says:

      http://WWW.THEREIGNOFCHRIST.ORG

      Antichrist “is the number of a man,
      and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six” Apoc 13:18.
      The number of a man is taken from the sixth day
      in which God created man Gn 1:31.

      CONCERNING THE 6-6-6
      The first ‘six’ is Zionism.
      The second ‘six’ is Freemasonry.
      The third ‘six’ is the ‘Unholy Alliance,’ not yet known to the
      world.

      THE FIRST ‘SIX’ – ZIONISM
      Zionism has for it’s god
      the money and the wealth of the world
      in the hands of a few.
      This group consists of mostly ‘Jews’
      who are not true Jews,
      but atheists, along with other Zionist international atheists.

      THE SECOND ‘SIX’ – FREEMASONRY
      Freemasonry has for it’s god,
      the power and control of the governments of the world
      in the hands of a few, through the ‘Illuminati.’

      The Antichrist comes from these first two ‘sixes.’

      THE THIRD ‘SIX’ – THE UNHOLY ALLIANCE
      The ‘Unholy Alliance’ presently consists of the core group of:
      Russia, China, N. Korea, Japan, Indonesia, Pakistan, India,
      Iran, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Afghanistan, Serbia, Sudan, and
      Libya. They oppose the True God, and as an alliance, are
      already in existence and operating. More nations will shortly
      be added.

      The False Prophet comes from this ‘Unholy Alliance.’

      THE FINAL SETTING
      Such are the forces of the devil which are being amassed.
      They are all in position and at work.
      They have infiltrated into every nation on the planet,
      and they fight against everyone who dares to disagree with
      them.

      The evil forces are opposed by the 144,000
      who belong to the True God, Holy Trinity,
      and our God has these in position -
      as well as His heavenly army!

      The victory belongs to the Lord our God.
      He is Lord, Eternal, Victor.

    65. ray Says:

      What did Larry Silverstein mean when he said “pull it” in that interview? There are some who claim he meant pull the fire fighters out of the building. Hmmm…but this doesn’t make sense because Silverstein is otherwise very articulate and has a great command of the English language; therefore, it just seems odd to imagine him referring to fire fighter’s(plural no less!) as an “it”. ”

      “Hey honey can you call the kids in for dinner?”

      Sure, honey, “Hey “it”, time for dinner”. haha

    66. ProudPrimate Says:

      Frank — I take back what I said about Standley’s hearing problem. I remember now i see it again. She knows she’s been in the midst of a massive lie, no two ways about it!

      Take a look — this is later, after dark.

    67. LEO Says:

      Christians? Good people? Truth? 70% of those
      who think so are hypocrites.

      The greater majority are on the road to perdition.

      So many claim to be Christians, and good people,
      and know the truth. Well, how do you measure up
      to what Jesus said?

      Are you that Sunday church going ‘good person’
      who forget God until next Sunday? Are you that
      good person in your own eyes who believe you are
      on your way to Heaven?

      Is your ‘faith’ or ‘religion’ a formality?

      Think again! Perhaps you are the one of whom
      Jesus says: ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU.’

      Jesus said: “Not every one that says to Me, ‘Lord,
      Lord,’ shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven,
      but he that does the will of My Father Who is in
      Heaven, he shall enter into the Kingdom of
      Heaven. Many will say to Me in that day: ‘Lord,
      Lord, have not we prophesied in Thy Name, and
      cast out devils in Thy Name, and done many
      miracles in Thy Name?’ And then will I profess
      unto them, I never knew you, depart from Me, you
      that work iniquity” Mt 7:21-23.

      Why would Jesus say ‘I never knew you?’
      Because all those hundreds of millions of
      Christians who preach the Word of God, and deny
      His Seven Sacraments, which are the Keys to the
      Kingdom, have closed their hearts to God, and of
      course He never could know them!

      Jesus is saying this to the false doctrine of Roman
      Catholic Ecumenism, and all the other Protestant
      religions who deny the Seven Sacraments and
      Christ in Holy Communion.

      “When the Master of the house shall be gone in
      and shall shut the door, you shall begin to stand
      without, and knock at the door, saying: ‘Lord,
      open to us.’ And He answering, shall say to you: ‘I
      know you not, whence you are.’ Then you shall
      begin to say: ‘We have eaten and drunk in Thy
      presence, and Thou have taught in our streets.’
      And He shall say to you: ‘I know you not, whence
      you are. Depart from me, all ye workers of
      iniquity, there shall be weeping and gnashing of
      teeth, when you shall see Abraham and Isaac and
      Jacob and all the prophets, in the Kingdom of God,
      and you yourselves thrust out” Lk 13:25-28.

      Jesus is saying this to the false teachers, those
      wolves in sheep’s clothing, that He rejects your
      denial of His Real Presence in Holy Communion
      (Holy Eucharist), and that Holy Eucharist is only a
      representation or simple commemoration of the
      events at the Last Supper.

      No matter how much you preach and deny the
      Sacraments, then Jesus says to you: ‘I never knew
      you.’ How could He know you if you deny Him? It
      is written in the Apocalypse, also known as the
      Book of Revelation: “Behold, I stand at the gate
      and knock. If any man shall hear My voice and
      open to Me the door, I will come in to him and will
      sup with him, and he with Me. To him that shall
      overcome, I will give to sit with Me in My throne,
      as I also have overcome and am set down with My
      Father in His throne” Apoc 3:20,21.

      All priests, preachers, and people who deny any of
      the Seven Sacraments of the Church, are excluded
      from entering the Narrow Gate, for they are the
      ‘workers of iniquity.’ It is written: “He that has an
      ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the
      churches” Apoc 3:22.

    68. VERITAS Says:

      The government has revolted against the people.
      “And I saw, and behold a white horse, and he that
      sat on him had a bow, and there was a crown given
      him, and he went forth conquering that he might
      conquer” Apoc 6:2.

      The rulers of money have revolted against the
      poor. “Two pounds of wheat for a penny, and
      thrice two pounds of barley for a penny, and see
      you hurt not the wine and the oil” Apoc 6:6.

      The churches have revolted against God. “Let no
      man deceive you by any means, for unless there
      come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed,
      the son of perdition who opposes and is lifted up
      above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so
      that he sits in the temple of God, showing himself as
      if he were God” 2Th 2:3,4.

      The people have revolted against society.“Now the
      Spirit manifestly saith that in the last times some
      shall depart from the faith, giving heed to spirits of
      error and doctrines of devils, speaking lies in
      hypocrisy and having their conscience seared…”
      1T 4:1,2. “Know also this, that in the last days shall
      come dangerous times. Men shall be lovers of
      themselves…Having an appearance indeed of
      godliness but denying the power thereof. Now these
      avoid” 2T 3:1,2,5.

      The Islamic terrorists and other satanic terrorists
      of the Unholy Alliance, are in position to destroy
      every fabric of society in the world today. “And I
      saw from the mouth of the dragon and from the
      mouth of the beast and from the mouth of the false
      prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs, for they
      are the spirits of devils, working signs, and they go
      forth unto the kings of the whole earth, to gather
      them to battle against the great day of the
      Almighty God” Apoc 16:13,14.

      The absence of God in your life – is equal to -
      the presence of Satan in your life. Without the
      fullness of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, in your life,
      you are lost. God the Father “has predestinated us
      unto the adoption of children through Jesus Christ
      unto Himself, according to the purpose of His will…
      in Whom we have redemption through His Blood,
      the remission of sins, according to the riches of His,
      grace…that He might make known unto us the
      sacrament of His will, according to His good
      pleasure, which He has purposed in Him…in the
      dispensation of the fullness of times, to re-establish
      all things in Christ, that are in Heaven and on
      earth, in Him” Ep 1;5,7,9,10.

      We must pray for the true conversion of all nations
      and peoples, Christians and non Christians. It is
      only in Christ Jesus that we can be saved.

    69. ProudPrimate Says:

      Send in for the Prayer Cloth today, friends. You don’t understand what a blessing you are missing out on. I personally weep and pray over these prayer cloths late into the wee hours before I send ‘em out. $5 each or, 5 for $20.

      Or for a really special blessing, send $30 and get 5 prayer cloths and a copy of my pamphlet, “Mighty Works in These Last Days”. Each one I send out was with me and my prayer team in Jerusalem last year.

      Now, till next week, May the Lord make his Face to shine upon you, and give you peace, as Brother Edgar takes us out with our theme . . . .

    70. Frank Schlözer Says:

      yeah, looks like false scripting..
      I don’t think that Jane Stanley was involved.. she just read some statement from somewhere.. would be really interesting to know *who* gave out the report about the WTC7 collapse.
      I just googled a little and people did call her about 9/11. But she basically refused to answer any questions and said that she was being harassed about it.
      Maybe someone in GB could talk to her in a friendly way and ask her exactly who gave her the early WTC7 collapse report. *That* would really be interesting.

    71. Gary Says:

      What a lying sack of s---.

    72. Frank Schlözer Says:

      by the way, Phil Hayton.. now, that i think about it..
      From what i heard on google video, the phone lines of the BBC basically went nuts when the report was released 2006.. everyone was talking about it, Jane Stanley was basically so tired about incoming calls that she refused to discuss it any further.. the BBC had to release an official statement.

      And Hayton never heard about it? Give me a break. It appears to me that everyone involved was briefed not to talk about it. “Don’t remember where i was, don’t remember what happened, sorry can’t enlighten you”.

    73. ProudPrimate Says:

      Frank — I agree with you. As one of the comments on the YouTube page said, “she looks so different from earlier, like she is either really really tired or she was just put through some major s---.” I’m thinking now someone with a clipboard off camera is telling her to zip her lip.

      I don’t think the level of complicity is very high on her part nor that of Hayton. You remember what happened to Greg Dyke, Director General of the Beeb after the Hutton whitewash of the murder of David Kelly. The presenters are only so tall.

      I agree with your prescription for gentle coaxing, and WACUK’s courteous handling of Hayton. These people have great value in the eyes of the viewership, and ought not to be rough handled unless absolutely necessary. They are prime property in the infowars, if the cookie happens to crumble our way.

      Discretion is the better part of valor.

    74. Frank Schlözer Says:

      agreed. He’s lying because he’s afraid. But he looks like he could be interested in speaking the truth.

    75. darius Says:

      the article makes us look stupid…

      the editing at the end and the headline imply 2 different things. it makes this movement look stupid and uncredible i think…

    76. Frank Schlözer Says:

      i think that ‘conspiracy’ thing was taken out of context. The interview just cuts the statement, but you can clearly hear that he didn’t finish whatever he was saying.

    77. Frank Schlözer Says:

      good and sensible, low-profile interview, but a little sensationalistic and out-of-context article/editing, especially at the end.

    78. We fight the evil subjugators who kick the crutch from under the leg of the cripple Says:

      yeah the last bit edited to be out of context, and i sensed there was a but coming.

    79. contact jane standley Says:

      Hi All ,

      Contact Jane at the below ,

      jane.standley@bbc.co.uk

      +44 (0) 20 8576 4440

      or fax +44 (0)20 8624 9144

    80. Whammo Says:

      Watch WTC 7 get slammed with debris, smoking and blazing from top to bottom:

      [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=jtYrArNibHo&feature=related[/url]

    81. Whammo Says:

      Watch WTC 7 get slammed with debris, smoking and blazing from top to bottom:

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=jtY.....re=related

    82. Linda Says:

      Senate Bill 1959,Bill to CRIMINALIZE thoughts, ideologies,books, and free speech across America.
      It passed thru the House, was introduced Aug. 2, 2007. It is now gone to the Senate: 404 treason-
      ists against 6 loyal Constitutionalists. This must be stopped. It is TREASON!!!!!! And you know as well as I do that this comes straight from the House of Rockefeller and the Federal Reserve. Any-
      one here dares to deal with it gets taken out. JFK and Lincoln, printed debt-free currency and that is why they were assassinated. We know. And there’s not a damned thing we can do about it with all these treasonists in gov’t passing laws behind our backs. Americans aren’t stupid, they are scared to death. Please spread that word. The problem is the House of Rothschild and the House of Rockefeller,damnit. PLEASE help!
      Linda

    83. Patrick Henry Says:

      Whammo….

      “smoking and blazing from top to bottom” ????????????????????

      You need your eyes examined. A few small pockets of fire at best. The rest is smoke (and mirrors). Smoke is a clear sign of an oxygen-starved fire on the verge of exhausting itself. Maybe you should consult some EXPERTS like the firefighters who said the fires were under control.

      Or maybe you might want to look up the thousands of ‘Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (like me). See their website at ( http://www.ae911truth.org ) The twin towers were designed to take ‘multiple’ hits from a fully loaded 707 (same size as the 767). Building 7 was much stronger and designed to be able to remove any floor without collapse (this allowed for future 2-story tall interior spaces).

      And most important of all……For the first time in history, a building collapsed as a result of fire (not once, but 3 times on the same day)

      You could also look up Pilots for 9/11 Truth ( pilotsfor911truth.org ) I think these guys no a little about flying aircraft. They all state that even with 20 years experienc, they could not have made those maneuvers on 9/11. But a bunch of towel-heads who couldn’t even fly a Cessna 172 managed to pull it off with textbook precision.

      And where are the bodies, the clothes, shoes, aircraft parts??? POOF!!! They disintegrated into magic fairy dust and blew up the mainstream medias asses.

      And some people still question the truth movement. AMAZING!!!

    84. Crush The Neocons Says:

      There is no stopping the truth now as we unleash it to the masses and wake the sheep

    85. Kevin Says:

      It was a glich in the space-time continuum generated by a surge in spiritual power unleashed by great quantities of fear on the earth’s energy grid. This sometimes causes jumps or leaps in interdimensional vortices. The whole point is to generate enough energy to create an anti-universe in a lower vibrational dimension.

    86. dividedlove Says:

      Thanks for the waste of time whammo, your an idiot!

    87. Bob Says:

      Contact Jane at the below ,

      jane.standley@bbc.co.uk

      +44 (0) 20 8576 4440

      or fax +44 (0)20 8624 9144

    88. Whammo Says:

      Patrick Henry (aka putz)

      The cameraman pans the whole building you can see it is smoking from top to bottom and flames too, look at 4:00 on. The fireman says “That building is gonna come down”

      I have no idea why you are saying fire brought down WTC 7. Silverstein admitted that they took the building down because it is dangerous (just as you just heard the firemen discussing) Watch Silverstein admit they “pulled the building”:

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100

      Try doing some research before you comment so you don’t appear the fool again.

    89. Whammo Says:

      Hey putz, if you want 9/11 plane debris try Googling “9/11 plane debris” Here I will get you started:

      http://911review.org/brad.com/.....ebris.html

      Learn how to Google before you babble about nonsense on public forums.

    90. MR2 Says:

      It still amazes me that people are unwilling to even open their minds up to the fact that WTC7 was brought down due to controlled demoltion.

      I urge everybody still in doubt to look at Richard Gage’s lecture called ‘9/11: Blueprint for truth’ and Stephen E Jones’ lecture, both of which are available for download via torrents.

      This is another crucial interview, thank you so much WACUK for going out and doing this, like the report says it’s quite apparant that Phil Hayton was kept in the dark surrounding this unexplained mystery but hopefully now he will go away and examine the evidence himself. Hopefully he will bring this to the attenion of other members of the BBC also.

      Hopefully Jane Standley will be nice enough to grant someone an interview in the near future to discuss exactly where she got her information from, I feel that is crucial to understanding exactly where the rumours began on that afternoon.

      Once again, great stuff WACUK!

      MR2
      London

    91. Patrick Henry Says:

      Whammo (aka pussy)

      You originally made it sound like the fire brought down the building!! I am WELL aware of Silverstein’s role in this. Now you seem to be making my point??? The firemen were ordered to evacuate the building BECAUSE it was coming down (not by fire, but by explosives). Maybe you didn’t communicate your original message very well. If we are on the same page now….chill

      This is just a video. Read or watch videos of the actual firefighters statements. They had the fires under control. They were sporatic and dying out. Have you checked out http://www.ae911truth.org or http://www.pilotsfor911.org ??? Witness testimony and EXPERT opinions are better than ONE lousy video.

    92. Patrick Henry Says:

      ANY QUESTIONS PUSSY???

    93. Patrick Henry Says:

      Too much for your little brain to absorb, huh Whammo?

    94. Japanese Lecture Says:

      Let me Quote the front page of a advertisement article Japanese Times April 26,2008

      The Tim of Change has Come!

      People everywhere are beginning to understand that this is no ordinary time.
      It is indeed a time without precendent.

      The great Teachers will soon emerge and call the only solution that will guarantee
      the future of humanity.

      The people will awakened and willingly work for the restoration of the world.

      Lecture by Benjamin Creme 2008
      Chief Editor, Share International Magazine

      Tokyo May 10,2008 at 2:00 p.m.
      at Hibiya Public Hall

    95. Superman Jr. Says:

      I watched the BBC coverage of the building 7 collapse after his conversation with Jane Standley where she reported that the Solomon Brothers building had collapsed. I remember Phil Hayton’s reaction in the studio when the Solomon Brothers building collapsed for real, 20 minutes after his conversation with Jane Standley. He was interrupted with a statement that the Solomon building has now collapsed. His response was: But I thought… Are we talking about the same building or is this another building?…. oh the same building”

    96. lifesez Says:

      a conspiracy,noooooooooooooo!

    97. Wayland Says:

      Whammo,

      It’s clearly a neat clean demolition. A perfect example of how to drop a building. Why try so hard to say otherwise?

      —–
      Bob,

      Thanks for the contact details, I have written to her.

    98. Breakfast Club Says:

      I can easily recall the moments when the Media had to come clean and began talking on the possibilities of a voter recount. You could really feel it in the air, something good was about to happen. And just as the MSM began going over the Bush connections in Florida with his brother (Jeb) helping to steal the votes, 9/11 happened. It was shortly after 911 that the voter fraud investigation was forever ended.

      And that’s when America had it’s collective brain stem removed and replaced with globs of s---.
      But who’s fault is that? Certainly not the fat cats and fast talking sluts all smiling and cheering while giving your great decider standing ovations for handing down more raises.

      Will America fight back for America? Cheney doesn’t think so. Which is why (hey, Dick has lots and lots of stock and war investment in Halliburton) Cheney had Halliburton build all those detention camps and placed all around your beloved land of the free. One would think that there would be a conflict of interest with the people in the Whitehouse making money offa all these wars, that were planned , by the way, long before they got into the Whitehouse. Which is why they should be arrested right now and put on trial for fraud and conspiracy.

      But you see, America no longer knows what is right or wrong anymore. Which when the time comes, (very, very soon) America will lay down and die on your own land for the people in government, rather than watched being laughed at.

    99. Breakfast Club Says:

      What I said before, about America having globs of s--- stuck into it’s head. I’m sorry.

      It was globs of trans fat.

    100. Spreadthetruth Says:

      how dumb do you have to be to read the news???

    101. Wayland Says:

      MR2,

      Yes it is amazing that people have trouble believing that the buildings were demolished.

      Douglas Adams had a way of hiding a spaceship using a Somebody-Else’s-Problem field. You could leave it in Hyde Park in plane view and no one would see it. Well actually they would see it but since that would really require some serious response from the person, they preferred not to see it and leave it to someone else to deal with.

      The same is true of 9/11. If we go with the official story then it’s someone else’s problem. The government, police and army have it under control, as long as we follow their instructions and stay alert for terrorists.

      OK so compare that to what happens if you stand up in a crowded room and on your own declare 9/11 to be an inside job. You suddenly have this huge responsibility to do something about it since the authorities seem to be looking the other way. Most people will think you are nuts. Those that do believe you will simply say, yeah, you have a point, you should go and do something about it.

      Believing the official 9/11 story is by far the easiest and least harmful option for a person. It’s a bit like believing in Farther Christmas, it keeps your parents happy, it feels nice and you get presents.
      It’s weird how you can believe unbelievable things, on one level you don’t believe it but on another you can.

      I feel this myself. On the one hand I have this exciting sense of outrage that they actually did this and how stupid do they think we are. On the other I was unaware that this was going on and I was left struggling to believe the official story, it seemed full of mystery and spin but at least it was not my problem.

      I am seeing restrictions to our freedom. First do I believe this will actually affect me and second did they really do 9/11 in order to restrict my freedoms. I am having this same belief problem with this one. If I believe that it’s necessary, a good thing and it won’t affect me then I can relax. However if I believe that it’s a bad thing and it will affect my freedoms then that leaves me with a big problem.

      It’s the Matrix. Take the blue pill and carry on as normal. Take the red pill and the floor drops out of your world.

      I believe I took the red pill in January this year and now I am very scared.

    102. Breafast Club Says:

      Don’t be scared, Dick and George will protect you from, from….. well.., not from them, but I’m sure they will be protecting some people from the great wrath of something or another.

    103. philipjame$ Says:

      “I sense that you think there’s a conspiracy here– but you might be right,” Hayton concluded.

    104. Liam Says:

      that wasnt him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it was another reporter!!!

      they are talking to the wrong guy lol

    105. justin Says:

      That b.b.c reporter is playing dumb & doing a bad job at it.

    106. brian Says:

      it doesnt matter what any of the bbc reporters say they are wanted in connection with the 9-11 attacks and we will execute them on site and any cops who want to help protect the people who playe d aroll in the september 11th treason attacks by george bush

    107. PeterZ Says:

      Wow. Thats all I can say. He lies at first about his schedule that day, then is told well we know exactly where and when you in the studio, then he suddenly remembers a different version of events.

      He knows damn well what he reported that day.

    108. Wayland Says:

      The BBC has a long history of loosing video, stretching back to the ’60’s. Phil Hayton did seem genuinely shocked that the WTC7 was still standing whilst he and Jane Standley were reporting it had fallen. Brian, I think we don’t shoot him, net yet anyway.

      I wrote to jane.standley but the email is bouncing. We need to keep the pressure on these reporters to talk publically about this.

    109. Tom Says:

      Hi Wayland, I too took the red pill in 2004, and since then I have been paying attention, and whoa! There is an unprecedented number of people coming onto the light, and the matrix is getting easier to feel, so don’t have any fear, turn it into to ridicule.

      The best word to use against fearm anger, intolerance, hate, etc… is .. ridiculous…

      Manifest what you want, not what you don’t want, as the more fear you grasp onto, the more will come your way. Best strategy that exists is to go your own way, smoke some herb if you want to, after all, it is all legal to me…

    110. Watchman Says:

      go and view http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ture=rated

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....g&NR=1

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....Q&NR=1

      Happy viewing! You will get a huge wake up call! Get your head out of your ass so you can get to see the light of day.

    111. Watchman Says:

      Let’s try that again -

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ture=rated

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....g&NR=1

    112. Watchman Says:

      I guess this site is blocking me from putting the full links on this site.

    113. Watchman Says:

      Although the full text does nopt show up for the link, the links work. Simply click on to them, and they will take you to the YouTube site to view what I am referring to.

    114. robi Says:

      we are change is doing an excellent job. now we need some documentation on jesuit order in the catholic church. i get the feeling alex jones is avoiding this topic

    115. scientist Says:

      Hello. I am a scientist. One explanation that jumps out to me as obvious is that the BBC was using recorded footage from a few hours earlier that showed building 7 still standing. This way they could be reporting on the building’s collapse and still be showing it standing.

      Now, obviously if they reported that it collapsed BEFORE it actually collapsed, then this explanation doesn’t work. I was not watching the BBC news that day. I was not in New York and so I am not privy to the exact time of the collapse of WTC 7 and/or the time of the BBC’s report that it collapsed.

      Evidence of the claim that they reported on WTC 7’s collapse prematurely would be a video with a time stamp of the collapse or shortly afterward, eye witness reports, etc… AND the same time verifiable time indexed evidence of the time of the BBC’s news report.

      If ANYONE can show me this evidence then I will not only be on-board but I will personally present this evidence to a “truth-seeking” group in the scientific community.

    116. mattyb Says:

      Hi scientist. If you watch the actual footage you will see she is standing a window, not a studio.

    117. mattyb Says:

      she is on a location. standing in the window of a building

    118. Prex Versus Says:

      Repost since nobody could answer:

      Again I say: WHO CARES? If you already know how WTC7 was demolished, why are any of you wasting your time trying to get the politicians to admit to it? Will it make you feel all fuzzy and warm inside when you get your answer? Thinking it will change anything? You are wasting your time and spinning your wheels. WAC is a no action group, just stirring up drama. You can’t fight the NWO by whining about things that happened years ago.

    119. TXGIRL Says:

      #120 Prex Versus, so what’s your proposal, then?

    120. ProudPrimate Says:

      Wayland — not Wayland the Smith, are you?

    121. Prex Versus Says:

      Proposal for what? Bringing those responsible for 911 to justice? Fighting the ‘NWO’? Installing new sidewalks at the local park? Please be more specific.

    122. ProudPrimate Says:

      “we will execute them on site”

      the words of either a Fed agent provocateur or a dimwit with no sense of what is going on in any practical sense.

      Thanks for endangering the whole movement, troll

    123. TXGIRL Says:

      #123, Prex Versus, yes all of that, but we already have sidewalks here.

      I mean the proposal to fix what you said WAC cannot, of course.

    124. ProudPrimate Says:

      Linda —

      Thank you for your timely exhortation to deal with S.1959 before it becomes law, which is the handiwork of my Senator, Susan Collins. The current status is, it was Introduced Aug 2, 2007, and hasn’t progressed since then. I’ve just now added a Google Alert for it — I already have one on Susan Collins, as I cobble together my Spring Campaign (street protest — <heh> got to get it moving before Spring runs out <sigh>.

      I spent the best part of the day writing her a four page letter, which I’m sending registered mail, because she doesn’t answer my mail or phone calls, despite what her phone girls say she will do. You can read it at proudprimate DOT com SLASH resourcesSLASH homegrown DOT htm

      Check out my previous campaign (2006, vs. Snowe) at proudprimate DOT com SLASH Placards SLASH Background DOT htm

    125. yaridanjo Says:

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/ar.....estamp.htm
      Time Stamp Confirms BBC Reported WTC 7 Collapse 26 Minutes In Advance

      Debunkers’ claims about blue screens, inconclusive time frame of Jane Standley footage eviscerated

      However, if we factor in CNN’s Aaron Brown reporting that Building 7 “has collapsed or is collapsing” at 4:15PM EST, then that’s over an hour before the building imploded into its own footprint.

      Both the announcer in the clip and the lower third banner report the collapse of WTC-7. The time stamp shows 21:54, or 9:54 PM British Time. (During the summer, British “summer” time is one hour ahead of Greenwich Mean or “Universal Time”.)
      Since the US is also on “Daylight Savings Time” in September, 9:54 PM British Time is 4:54 PM East Coast Time. That is roughly 20 minutes before WTC-7 actually came down.

    126. pohalloran Says:

      For those who are not familair with the World Trade Center layout, understand that Building 7 was part of the WTC complex in name only. It was at least a half mile away from Buildings 1 and 2. It was across a street. There were other non WTC buildings much closer to Building 1 and 2 on the same side of the street and they survived.

    127. Yoinks Says:

      #125: You are correct. WAC is not doing a thing to help fix any problem. They are only accomplishing the task of getting some press, getting themselves in trouble, and then begging for some lawyers to come help bail them out.

      So: in a perfect world, we find out that Bush & Co, some Jews, and some NWO nitwits are responsible for 9-11. We bring them to trial, plenty of live TV and all that…. and they’re found guilty. Does that magically bring back the WTC? Or the people who died on 9-11? Of course not. After WWII, there were trials for some of the bigwig Nazis who were caught (or not relocated to other countries like the USSR, the UK & the US), but what did that do the end the Nazi movement in Germany? Nothing. It’s alive & well and growing again over there. Did it do anything to curb the sick idolation of Hitler by these whackjob White Supremecists here in the US? Nope, didn’t accomplish anything except giving a few people that warm & fuzzy feeling that something was done. Now we’re looking down the same barrel that faced us 6 decades ago, just wrapped in a new looking bow.

      Even if *every* citizen knows about the complicity of our gov’t in the 9-11 operation, it wont change a thing. We can vote every last SOB out of Federal & State gov’t, and it still wont change a thing. The same ball game with new players. Even worse, players we dont know and cant predict. WAC is only trying to do just that, convince everybody that 9-11 was an inside job (which we already know), that Schwartsinazi in California is the offspring and idolator of Nazis, and in general just to get their mugs on the news by harrasing people like the Bush daughter. Fine.

      Problem is: according to many polls, the majority of people already know that the gov’t had at least some responsibility in the 9-11 attacks. Approval ratings are in the toilet for Bush, and have been for awhile now. They were the same for his father, and yet Amercians give his oaf of a son two freakin’ terms in office. Why? Becasue the average voter will still go to the voting booth, and pull the lever under the name of the guy they already know, in many cases the incumbent. Lazy, uninformed Americans we are.

      Therfore, rather than trying to convince the sheep of the obvious, would it be more prudent for those already in the know to look forward and plan their actions that way, rather than harping on things that happened in the past which can’t be changed? Unless WAC has a time machine, their actions are unfortunately futile.

    128. Prex Versus Says:

      Pull the lever Yoinks? Have you even voted in the last 20 years? I haven’t seen a voting machine with levers in eons!

      Regardless, you almost hit it with that diatribe. WAC is not making any progress becasue they are working the problem backwards. But that’s because they obviously still have some sort of faith in how the justice system works in this country. That’s pretty naive on their part, but hey thats what college kids are. Bringing criminals to justice for these types of crimes does nothing in the long run. The time and place to act is at the top of the food chain. The Bush administration is NOT the top of the food chain. We have to look higher, and act accordingly.

    129. Fleur de lys Says:

      Yhea!…Bush’s clan is an old barber shop….hearing,telling and cuting and some other idiot cleaning the mess thinking mayby one day they too can be barbarians..ho…barber that is. :)

    130. Prex Versus Says:

      Actually, I disagree with Yoinks in that we are not “looking down the same barrel we were 6 decades ago”, at least in the fact that the barrel never went away. Same organisations carrying out the same plans. Just chipping away at civilisation as we know it, little by little. They are in no hurry. The pick the timeline, and things happen when they decide it does. The NAU is a perfect example. No amount of legislation will stop it. That’s like the beast trying to stop what it himself does.

      Sorry TXGIRL – this Yoinks character stole my thunder in saying what he did about WAC. He’s mostly right. Crying about what happened in 2001 is not the way to bring about real change. Those in the service of the NWO just laugh when they see this. They predicted it, they’ve already planned the game. A much higher level of intelligence is what we’re dealing with. Not unstoppable, but it can’t be fought with just simply disseminating information. They use the MSM to combat that, rather easily I might add. Guys like WAC are just playing into their sick plan.

    131. ProudPrimate Says:

      131 & 132 —

      You two are onto something, all right. My reaction: what do we know? for one thing, we have reason to believe we still are being lied to.

      That’s good news! Why? Because some of the things they are still trying to hide can, in their insider estimation, still hurt them if it gets out to a broader audience. That’s the principle behind this website, Alex’s radio show, and WAC.

      But, as you have said very well, we also know that these dark elements have carried on the parasitic game for generations, with not much grief from the more above-board elements. We should try to sort out examples of things that gave them grief in the past, and shift what weight we have in that direction.

      The Business Plot (see on wikipedia) where Gen. Smedley Butler ratted out the plutocrats to the HUAC is prima facie evidence that FDR’s first year of the New Deal upset their stomach bigtime. Tarpley, for those his fans if any here, thinks that’s the best model for the course ahead, which squares with the definition of Fascism, to use FDR’s words:

      The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That in its essence is fascism – ownership of government by an individual, by a group or any controlling private power.

      My own personal course is based on the belief that if the average person knew what we know about the dark, subversive history of these elites and their role at the top of government and finance, they would be moved to resist, in proportion to how fully they see the depths of it. That is Alex’s prime directive as well, I believe.

    132. Citizen Z Says:

      Why is my comment awaiting moderation?

    133. TXGIRL Says:

      #134, it used to happen to me a lot too; it will get faster.

    134. ProudPrimate Says:

      my comments (sometimes, ie., when no one is at the board) get held up when I include active URLs, so I convert them to inert, e.g., proudprimate DOT com, which always gets thru, but not as nifty

    135. doctordrewl Says:

      I don’t know about all this anti-WAC rhetoric… sure, they’re not going to bring down the NWO on their own… but at least they’re taking some action. I’m so sick of talk… good or bouad these guys are taking the fight to the enemy…

      Maybe they’re playing right into the hands of the police state apparatus… but bottom line is, all the traitors have to look over their shoulders even more now…. even on formerly friendly grounds… and you can’t tell me that their little black hearts don’t start racing when they get confronted….

      The more these people fear the public… thanks to WAC ambushes… the more they have to change their plans and stay on top of their toes when addressing the media. Now I doubt that we’ll ever get real justice in the courts… but is it not some type of justice that these people have to live the rest of their lives in some distress? Maybe if they get sick of it… a few of them, less involved in the planning..may start rolling over on their buddies… once the in-fighting starts… these people will liquidate themselves… if not… well I hope Fulford and his ninjas… are legit.

    136. WrongNwo Says:

      Prex thats complete bs.This isnt the 70’s.Info gets around now…numbers will win.

      Keep up the good work peops,knowledge is freedom

    137. ProudPrimate Says:

      Dr D (#140) —

      good summary! As Jefferson said:

      When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

      And, as we know, these plutocrats are the government, not the sock puppets we vote for.

    138. ProudPrimate Says:

      interesting — these posts are marked with Pacific Daylight Time

    139. john so Says:

      this preemptive newscast should have brought down the house of cards,but it’s funny: no matter how blatant and shocking some item of proof is, no matter how public and provable-no one ever cares.nothing happens. makes you wonder just how much of the population has impaired reasoning from all the fluoride,chemicals and network tv ads…

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    143. Red Pill Says:

      Badly organised interview – an opportunity squandered

    144. Oscar Says:

      No plan this complicated is perfect (9/11) – The errors are very obvious I hope people will see the truth