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Beijing Skyscraper Fire: The Silence Is Deafening
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, February 12, 2009
Three days after a towering inferno engulfed a 500 foot skyscraper in Beijing, debunkers have failed to come up with any answers as to why the building remained standing in comparison with WTC 7, which suffered a uniform 7 second implosion as a result of limited fires spread across just 8 floors on 9/11.
Beijing’s Mandarin Oriental hotel defied all known physics on Monday when it was consumed by fires but did not collapse, a modern day miracle in light of the commonly accepted premise that since 9/11, all steel buildings that suffer even limited fire damage implode in on their own footprint within seconds.
All joking aside, any credibility that remained behind NIST’s “thermal expansion” theory, which was apparently only evident on one day in history and not in the case of hundreds of other high rise buildings that have caught fire and remained standing, metaphorically went up in the flames that consumed – but did not collapse – one of Beijing’s most prominent buildings.
The silence of debunkers with regard to the hotel fire is both deafening and highly hypocritical. Proponents of the government’s version of events are usually feverish to seize upon anything, no matter how inane and off tangent, in order to try and prop up the official fairy tale.
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The best retort we have seen since the fire is the claim that buildings are constructed differently and therefore no comparison can possibly be made between the Mandarin Oriental hotel and Building 7.
Really? That argument didn’t stop debunkers from comparing the collapse of two bridges to the collapse of the twin towers following freeway collapses in San Francisco and Minnesota in 2007.
The frenzy was particularly evident at Fark.com following the San Francisco bridge collapse, with posters reveling in the notion that the freeway accident had made “WTC conspiracy theories collapse as quickly as that highway did.”
In that instance, the freeway section was made of highly flammable asphalt and took the brunt of a gigantic gasoline explosion with open air fires shooting 200 feet in the air. In comparison, the twin towers were impacted by aluminum planes filled with significantly less flammable kerosene and suffered limited fires that were oxygen-starved and almost out before the collapses occurred.
“You can’t even begin to compare 5 inch thick steel plate core columns, approximately 2 foot by 5 foot rectangle 5 inch thick boxes to quarter inch and 3 quarter inch dowels that connect the steel to the support members,” a steel welding expert told us.
“The logical deduction is that the rebar steel was exposed horizontally, that whole bridge surface and it was exposed intention, not like the fires that were lapping up fire-proofed 5 inch thick plate columns in the World Trade Center – these little bars had no heat sink and after two hours with all that weight on them they fell.”
But logic didn’t stop the debunkers from comparing the collapse of a weakened and cracked freeway with the uniform implosion of skyscrapers that were designed to absorb multiple airliner impacts without collapsing. Neither did it stop them from using the absurd comparison to try and explain away the collapse of WTC 7 – which wasn’t even hit by a plane.
So when debunkers attempt to evade difficult questions about the Beijing skyscraper fire by claiming that no comparison can even be made to WTC 7, it’s pertinent to remind them that they considered it perfectly legitimate to compare towering skyscrapers with run-down creaking bridges in order to push their agenda.
The state-controlled communist media in China have all but censored coverage of the Beijing skyscraper fire to avoid public embarrassment, but the silence has been just as deafening in the U.S., where corporate media networks have largely ignored the story, ostensibly to prevent people make the obvious comparison to World Trade Center 7.
Thankfully, an army of truth activists have been busy on You Tube compiling video comparisons of the fires in the two buildings and the resulting damage. The best videos are featured below.
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February 12th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
As soon as I first heard of this on the news, WT7 was the first thing I thought of.
More proof that 911 is indeed a series of controlled demolitions.
Beverly Eckert Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 8:40 am
“Beware of the disinfo agents who are now claiming that WTC 7 was hit by planes (LOL) that attempt to keep us away from the REAL Truth”
The point someone might be making is that there is just as much verifiable evidence that a plane struck WTC 7 as crashed into WTC’s 1 and 2, the Pentagon, or Shanksville. Just like WTC 7, to this day not one single piece of airliner wreckage has ever been verified in any way from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations. Witnesses, video, and photos have never in aviation history verified a plane crash. Only wreckage does. To this day not one single piece of wreckage has ever been verified from 911. Not one single piece out of a possible 13 million standard serial ID’d parts on a 757. Not one single piece.
Anyone who claims they are the owners of the “REAL” truth…..please beware. There were no commercial planes on 911. You were lied to by the military owned US media, the military itself, all branches of government, law enforcement, and 1000’s of US corporations who were complicit in their silence and collusion. That is what no commercial planes on 911 means. And that is why the US military spends $5 Billion dollars a year to promote the “official story” of 911. Once you realize that there were no commercial planes all that money goes out the window along with their funding for the 911 induced War on Terror, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, Military Authorization Act and many more that came about because of 911……
redbear Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Much as I enjoy being in the ‘club’ I must remain unconvinced. First one observation that I find most disturbing is the use of the term ‘debunkers’ in reference to those who tow the establishement line. A debunker is one that refutes the accepted wisdom. Pretty Orwellian to use doublespeak on a website dedicated to refuting doublespeak! Second I’m not convinced by either side, both make good points and both make valid points but c’mon, lay off the wildass conspiracy shit until you have IRREFUTABLE evidence not just slick enough conjecture to keep your ass flush with the money of beleivers, but, a real live witness to the ‘plot’ of the day. You do the counter revolution more harm than good by that crap. We need people that are not just willing but able to sift the trash and find the truth so questioning ‘authority’ and ‘experts’ is what it’s all about just becouse you’re cloaked in the flag doesn’t make you a patriot. The sheeple may follow and that’s great if that’s what you want for followers just remember sheeple don’t make the best warriors, that’s why we always had the strategic edge over the armies of the Soviet bloc during the cold war even though they had us hands down in numbers, we were encouraged to think, not just follow. Our local militia was destroyed by the chief knuckle head when he started babbling about the Pope colluding with the Japanese to sell cocaine in the U.S. so that ‘they’ (whoever ‘they’ are) could take over the country with the help of the CIA, there may have been space craft in there somewhere too. A most excellent and useful organization was ruined because what drew some sheeple to the cause alienated anyone that didn’t want to be asociated with crazy bullshit. Are there conspiracies? You bet yer ass, but, there aren’t bogey men in every shadow and not every disaster is the result of some plot hatched up in some smoke filled room full of Illuminati Lords. Mark me a skeptic but I’m an equal opportunity skeptic. I know that I won’t get any love out of this note but I ain’t out for love, I WANT THE WHOLE TRUTH without the self serving spin from ANYONE! P.s., Keep the ideas flowing, we all need to hear as much from others as we can, wether we agree or disagree we’ve got to listen to all sides of all issues in order to get to the truth. knowledge is power.
bofors Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
No “commercial” planes?
What is that? That latest evolution of the “no planer” disinformation campaign?
Take that crap some place else => Judy Wood
lol Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
No “WMD’s” in Iraq?
What is that? The latest evolution of the “No WMD’s” in Iraq disinformation campaign?
Take that crap some place else => President Bush
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
What crap? You’re seriously going to tell us that there ARE WMDs in Iraq now, even after the previous administration admitted that they could not find them and that there were none in the first place? So, you know more than those who got us into Iraq, predicated on a lie, that have admitted that there are none?
Here let me rattle your small mind and short memory:
President Bush Admits Iraq Had No WMDs and ‘Nothing’ to Do With 9/11 (August 22, 2006)
“On Monday, President Bush admitted that the Iraq war is “straining the psyche of our country.” But he vowed to stay the course. A reporter questioned him about why he opposed withdrawing US troops from Iraq. In his answer, Bush admitted that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and had “nothing” to do with 9/11.”
http://www.democracynow.org/20.....raq_had_no
Now. Take YOUR crap someplace else, you failed debunker.
rufuse Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
The problem with WMD’s is that every government agency, every military commander, every US military contractor owned media outlet like GE/NBC and Westinghouse/CBS, hundreds of congressman, millions of law enforcement, and our entire judicial system said there WERE WMD’s in Iraq. So much so…that we invaded the Country and we are still there today with no end in site. The only reason the WMD’s were found to be bogus was that someone wanted to verify and test a single piece. That’s all. Just verify one single piece of WMD’s. Suddenly the WMD’s were a lie and an “intelligence failure”.
Those same people that asked for verification of WMD’s have asked for verification of the planes from 911. Just like the WMD’s in Iraq….not one single piece of airliner debris has ever been verified in any way from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 911. Not one single piece. Just like the WMD’s our media, military, judicial, Congress, and government believes there were planes without any verification.
there were no commercial planes on 911. The military spends $5 billion dollars a year to tell you there were planes on 911. Beware………..
February 12th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Ha! Its because they CANNOT!!! Refute the truth and the truth is STILL standing in Beijing!
Everyone responsible for the implosion of the twin towers have blood stained hands and souls…
February 12th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
hopefully we will be cuffing their hands, and let god worry about their souls.
obama better re-open the investigation. cmon even jimmy carter wants the investigation re-opened.
msmadame Reply:
February 12th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Mrmakymkay,
I agree, my fear is that he will not investigated 911 due to fear of ‘retribution’.
Whats right is wrong it seems…
msmadame Reply:
February 12th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Oops, I meant to say investigate 911 because of the fear of retribution.
Idiocracy Reply:
February 12th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Jimmy Carter said he would support the families who want a new investigation.
I want to believe he directly said he wants a new investigation too. We don’t need to misrepresent the truth to support our movement.
Five Fingers Freddy Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:18 am
Oh…Jimmy Carter eh? Jimmy Carter is a clown, a puppet of the Iranians and Hamas. He needs to go back to Georgia, sit on his peanut farm and figure out the contamination problems there.
LTC Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 11:46 am
WrongNWO,
Why call Freddy names?
Carter was playing the fool when he was President and still supports NWO policy. Haven’t you yet realized that none of the politicians can be trusted, even the ones who appear to be supporting some of the things we support?
Even Ron Paul shouldn’t be trusted, considering that he’s a Freemason and even worse, a politician. Sure, I’d rather take a chance on Ron Paul then any of the others but the fact remains that he’s still a politician.
Same goes for Dennis Kucinich…He’s a gun grabbing liberal at heart and has a personal agenda just like any other politician in the U.S.
Something all of you Constitution loving patriots fail to remember is that this country and its Constitution were created by rich elites and the intelligentsia of the time. There are good things in the constitution and there are bad things in it. The document is very tricky and the words “citizen” and “people” are used in such a way as to confuse us.
I’ve heard and read people argue that if the Constitution was followed everything would be okay in this country. That argument is more than a little foolish in my view. If the Constitution was so great there would have been better safe guards written within it to protect the people from the politicians completely monopolizing it for their own ends.
Wake up and stop defending these men, whether it be Jimmy Carter, Dennis Kucinich, or Ron Paul. They are not to be trusted. A politician is a creature created by the elites, not by the people. Study history, we, the common people, have had little to do with the forming of any governing documents and the current and past history of our country proves this beyond all doubt.
redbear Reply:
February 16th, 2009 at 12:18 am
You hit it right on the head. Further more all we can do is try to keep them from grabbing more power and control than they need to do their jobs. Draw the line when their power infringes on my liberty.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Of course the whole 9/11 was an 100% INSIDE JOB. Problem-Reaction-Solution make no mistake about it.
One of the things that annoys me the most is that people never ask to themselves the following question “Who benefits?”. It certainly isn’t Muslims or any FICTIONAL characters like the 19 hijackers and Bin Laden, the only one who benefits from is the hijacked government of a specific country and the REAL controllers of that government.
Beware of the disinfo agents who are now claiming that WTC 7 was hit by planes (LOL) that attempt to keep us away from the REAL Truth.
Let us not tolerate disinfo trolls who attempt to turn us away from the TRUTH.
yoza Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 8:38 am
“Beware of the disinfo agents who are now claiming that WTC 7 was hit by planes (LOL) that attempt to keep us away from the REAL Truth”
The point someone might be making is that there is just as much verifiable evidence that a plane struck WTC 7 as crashed into WTC’s 1 and 2, the Pentagon, or Shanksville. Just like WTC 7, to this day not one single piece of airliner wreckage has ever been verified in any way from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations. Witnesses, video, and photos have never in aviation history verified a plane crash. Only wreckage does. To this day not one single piece of wreckage has ever been verified from 911. Not one single piece out of a possible 13 million standard serial ID’d parts on a 757. Not one single piece.
Anyone who claims they are the owners of the “REAL” truth…..please beware. There were no commercial planes on 911. You were lied to by the military owned US media, the military itself, all branches of government, law enforcement, and 1000’s of US corporations who were complicit in their silence and collusion. That is what no commercial planes on 911 means. And that is why the US military spends $5 Billion dollars a year to promote the “official story” of 911. Once you realize that there were no commercial planes all that money goes out the window along with their funding for the 911 induced War on Terror, Homeland Security, Patriot Act, Military Authorization Act and many more that came about because of 911.
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 9:57 am
“Not one single piece out of a possible 13 million standard serial ID’d parts on a 757. Not one single piece.”
And that is an astounding fact, Yoza. I almost forgot about that. I’ve always been amazed at that. The site of WTC 1 and 2 was cleaned up so fast, absent an investigation, that there was no time to sift through the (molten steel, 5 floors below grade) debris to find anything. Usually the NTSB, at any crash site, spends weeks collecting parts and pieces to find an answer to what caused the crash. Yes, I know, them hitting buildings caused them to crash. Yet, it would have answered the question if those planes actually were the planes that hit and not military mock-ups flown via remote control.
Shanksville? Not a thing. Nothing. A dip in the landscape where they say the plane hit. The earth swallowed the plane. We’ve all seen plane crashes. It’s a mess! Sometimes scattered over miles. Shanksville? Nada.
Pentagon. Same deal. But they present some tiny turbine fan blade assembly. Far too small to be that of a 757 engine, but fitting of a cruise missile.
I still feel that one day, one of these guys, a major player on their death bed will spew the truth. But you know what? The debunkers will still be in denial. Just as they are in denial about the fact that there are no WMD, that Iraq had nothing to do with 911 (admitted by Bush) and that Afghansitan is about securing the opium trade.
A lot of people gave up being skeptical and began submitting to their masters instead of demanding answers. It why the world’s economies are falling apart. They started the submission Sept. 11, 2001 and now that that have the sheep fully scared and nervous, they’re going for the main vein and will now steal all their savings and complete the job of complete serfdom.
Judgement Day Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
What the fuck? For years you tin-hat troofers screamed about an 8 mile wide debris field from United 93, since it obviously didn’t go into that airplane sized hole outside Shanksville. Now you want me to believe none of what you claim was “scattered for miles” has ever been recovered.
Jeez! I guess it’s true: people really do forget how many lies they’ve told before contradicting themselves with another.
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
“For years you tin-hat troofers screamed about an 8 mile wide debris field from United 93″
We did? I don’t recall saying that at all. Let me check…no, I didn’t. Nice theory though. Did you come up with that one all on your own or did someone else type that for you?
“since it obviously didn’t go into that airplane sized hole outside Shanksville.”
Ahem, that is your assessment of it. I referred to it as a “A dip in the landscape where they SAY the plane hit”. Re-read.
“Now you want me to believe none of what you claim was “scattered for miles” has ever been recovered.”
Whether it was or wasn’t is not the issue. The issue lies in that there have been NO recovered parts whatsoever from any of the sites! What part of that is confusing you? It’s a logical thought and question. And just like other failed debunkers, you who have no answer for WTC 7’s collapse, and quickly turn to WTC 1 and 2, disregard the information supplied and aim ONLY for Shanksville and some apparent 8 mile wide debris field thing. Why aren’t you addressing that there hasn’t been ANY recovered parts from the crash sites? You get on here and try to debunk and failed miserably at it. So, come on. Tell us where the parts, flight recorders, luggage or anything is? You seem to know. You slam us for wanting answers but offer nothing constructive of your own. Typical of the ignorant.
“Jeez! I guess it’s true: people really do forget how many lies they’ve told before contradicting themselves with another.”
No, we have to keep disproving all the new ones that you Kool-Aid drinkers dream up.
Judgement Day Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
“…No debris recovered from any of the sites…”, huh?
http://www.debunk911myths.org/.....gon_debris
Sorry, just because “blunt force loser” specifically never spoke about an 8 mile wide debris field in Pennsylvania, doesn’t mean there aren’t archives from this very neo-nazified blog making such claims.
Swing and a miss, losers.
Judgement Day Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
http://www.debunk911myths.org/.....3_-_debris
Here’s some more nonexistent debris, ass hats.
Judgement Day Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Just because “Blunt Force Loser” himself never spoke of an 8 mile wide debris field from United 93 doesn’t mean that claim hasn’t been put out by this very neo-nazified blog.
No debris, huh
http://www.debunk911myths.org/.....3_-_debris
Swing and a miss, losers.
bob Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Look at the debris. Study it.
First….no one on the planet can ever examine the actual pieces that you have shown in your photos. Not even Congress. We have never denied that fact that evidence was planted. That is why verification is so important when dealing with political, military, and media criminals that would stage the death of millions.
The engine in all your photos can never be from a 757. A 757 has a 9 ft wide engine. You can stand inside of it. You are looking at an engine that you can pick up with one hand and is at most 3 ft wide…which is a standard engine size of a Global Hawk drone.
Look at the FBI agents walking around in front of the Pentagon carrying these so-called plane parts. First…NONE of them are wearing protective masks. The smell of jet fuel would have been toxic and overwhelming. Regardless of how much may have burned off 10,000+ gallons of jet fuel would have been toxic for months. Second….none of the so-called pieces are burnt!!!! One piece is crystal blue with blue paint even though the actual Flight 77 was completely silver.
My favorite is the damaged beyond repair voice data recorder??!! One foot off the ground and it became unrecognizable. Look at the hole in the inner wall. That is where officals say all the passengers died. Cant you see all the seats from the plane? Notice the one lone piece in the grass that is blown forward about 300 yards in front of the Pentagon. It was blown there and has NO burn marks of any kind.
If these were parts then the standard serial ID number verifying the plane would be stamped on these pieces. That is what the FBI says you can never see or verify in any way ever. The engine would take 10 seconds to verify. The FBI in 2008 said it verified NONE of the debris from any of the planes because quote….”we all saw it on TV”! The FBI also says you can never review what they did because of National Security and that it doesn’t fall under FOIA because of that.
Coming to terms with the fact that your government, military, and media lied to you about the planes of 911 is going to hit you very hard judgement day. I wish you all the best in coping with why your leadership would do that to its own people. You may also spend the rest of your life denying it. That is a form of protection to your mind. Denial is a stage which all of us will go through at first. Good luck.
Judgement Day Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Gee, Bob, if jet fuel is so toxic, why do they only wear gloves and safety glasses when it’s pumped into the planes, loser? The only difference between jet fuel and auto gasoline is the octane level, loser. Spill it, and the most you have to worry about is ignition. Jet fuel is spilled at refineries and airports across the country on a DAILY BASIS, dumbass. Name one person who has died from jet fuel poisoning(who didn’t directly ingest it). So much for “toxic for months”, redneck.
And if you would so blatently and provably lie about that, what else shouldn’t I believe you’re saying?
Bob II Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Everyone at this site must read this JD’s post. One of the most common tactics used by spooks, shills, and trolls is to use name calling and personal insults as a form of communication. Rather than just make a point these posters must use profanity or insults. Loser, dumbass, redneck are all listed in the above post. When someone uses personal attacks beware of a shill. It is the number one tactic of pysop, mildec, and the deception execution cycle. This person may not even know they are using it?
Another very common tactice of a shill is to use what is called the “straw man” argument. It basically says that if I can show just ONE thing wrong with something that I think you said….then everything you have said MUST be wrong also. Basically tug at one straw and the whole man falls apart. This poster even says “if I so blatently lied about that…what else shouldn’ they believe”. This person is telling you they are using the strawman arguement.
Now…to address their points. There’s a big difference between spilling 10,000+ gallons of jet fuel all at once in one spot vs. leaking a few drops on my shoe at a gas station?!!! Swimming in an olympic size swimming pool of kerosene vs. an eye dropper on my shoe is a little different. See….did I have to resort to personal name calling or insults? Just make the point and move on. I take it that you agree with me about the airliner parts aspect of the post though? The pieces don’t fit the plane that supposedly crashed.
Again….$5 Billion dollars a year is spent by the Pentagon to promote the official story of 911 on websites and in the media. JD….how did you come to terms with the fact that your government, military, and media had lied about the WMD’s in Iraq? How did you deal with it? However you dealt with it….I’m sure you eventually got over it and looked to the future. How are you going to deal with the fact that these same people and agencies lied to you about 911? You will get over that as well in your own time. I am glad to see you at this site typing out your opinions and feelings about what you have been told by your government and media. The sooner you start to recognize the mass flaws in their deception the better….so that you can move to the future.
Judgement Day Reply:
February 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Hey, Bob,
Guess you forgot to mention that “swimming pool of kerosine” had been burning, evaporating, and draining into the sewers and grass all day. No one was wading through pools of it. Although refinery workers do every day of their lives. They are exposed to much more than a “few drops on their boots”, or “eye-droppers”, loser, and liar.
And by the way, if I’m dealing with losers, rednecks, and dumbasses, why show deference to their feelings? If you don’t like being called these names, stop being losers, rednceks, and dumbasses. Not to mention nazi scum. Yeah, that’s right. You racial supremacist nazis have been telling me my government has been lying to me ever since Fort Sumter( to take your slaves), the U.S.S. Maine (to deprive you of your cheap labor), the Lusitania and Pearl Harbor( to supress your Aryan bretheren). I see through you like saran wrap.
And I will always be there to thwart your eternal quest for power…so you and your ilk will never again be a part of my (or any) future.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
The “deafening silence” on the part of cockroach propagandists
is at least partially on account of the building in Beijing going
up in such a SPECTACULAR fashion. It just couldn’t have burned
any hotter!
It was like God wanted to show the world: “Here’s the WORST a
skyscraper can possibly burn up, and yet it’s still standing.”
The blood of the 3,000+ who were murdered in the demolition
of WTC 1 & 2 as well as those killed at the Pentagon, the
hundreds of first responders who died later, the people
who were unconscious on the planes, (if in fact there WERE
any people on the “hijacked” planes), AND the million+ Iraqi
citizens mass-murdered for oil cries out from the ground
for JUSTICE and TRUTH.
Things like this are what will ultimately cause the NWO to fall
hard, because as smug and confident as they are in their lies
and treachery the TRUTH will OUT. That is one of the immutable
laws of the universe.
stue Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
“the people who were unconscious on the planes, (if in fact there WERE
any people on the “hijacked” planes)”
You list many items of murder, torture, and dispair…..and somehow think your media and government told you the truth about there being planes on 911. Give them no doubt. There were NO commercial planes on 911. It was a lie. The FBI now says it never has to answer ANY questions regarding the planes of 911 because…..of National Security!!!!!! Because of national security it never has to verify a single piece of debris from 911. When you are being taken to a local FEMA camp the exuse will be national security. When they delete your bank account it will be national security. When they wiretap, shut off your internet access, and close down your local paper it will be because of national security.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Great article and great videos. Thanks.
Hey fellow peeps—when you show these things to others, and they STILL do not seem to be waking up… just walk away, and don’t look back. Sad, but true. Don’t waste your time on people who don’t have the ability to observe the obvious. Just keep sharing what you know, and you will find plenty that do.
It’s no surprise that this wasn’t covered in MSM. Too terrifying for them. If too many people saw how intensely the Mandarin burned and for how long, and yet was STILL STANDING it would cause the conscious or sub-conscious mind to start doing some major cognitive evaluation of the whole scenario. Many many people would start putting 2 + 2 together…
The “Lord” really does work in mysterious ways, eh? Karma, Divine Intervention, Cosmic Justice, Guardian Angels, whatever… it is what it is.
This was a perfect and real and LIVE demonstration to point out the lies about what really happened on 9-11-2001.
And, from what I have seen so far, NO ONE was hurt. Empty building, right? How COOL is that?!
Now, THAT it the ultimate in true Power and Integrity! The NWO hasn’t got a chance against us.
Believe it.
February 12th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
its fucking obvious that 9-11 was an inside job. insider trading before 9-11. advanced warnings to officials to stay away from new york that day. forget towers 1&2. the proof is in wtc7. there is no way on earth that building fell with out assistance. plain and simple tptb got greedy with wtc7. that was their mistake. no such thing as a perfect crime. why else would there be pools of moulton metal under wtc7,1 and 2 and not the rest of the wtc site buildings? so the real question is if we know that 9-11 was an inside job and it was used to turn our world up side down what the fuck are we going to do about it?
February 12th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
IMPORTANT !!
You must see this video!!!
Bush makes a satanic ritual!! (this is not a joke) !!
http://911truth-sherbrooke.org.....ot-a-joke/
LTC Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
187,
I think some of the elements of the video are interesting. Just the words the teacher was making the children repeat was more than a little coincidental.
Kite — Hit — Steel — Planes — A few others also.
Odd since planes were hitting the trade centers (made out of steel) as this little classroom show was going on, all while the President of the U.S. was sitting at the front of the class with a very stressed out look on his face. The “bowing down” was also interesting. Could be that you’re looking too deeply into things and making something out of nothing but you could also be spot on, seeing something going down that most people would miss, and therefore a real possibility that it could be some sort of occult ritual.
You never can tell when dealing with these sick elites.
February 12th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
is
February 12th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
The fire that was in the beijing skyscraper was just a fire, a giant hunk of metal flying at thousands of miles per hour didnt hit it. your gonna have to take that into consideration before you try and compare the two. Come back with some real information and leave that NWO shit at home.
True Bread Reply:
February 12th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
looks like you and Michael Phelps have something in common….!!!!
PS: that is one UGLY building…
Educator66 Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Blg 7 was NOT hit by anything , only 1 & 2 ….by ALUMINIUM aircraft travelling at a few 100 MPH not 1000s..Like to exagerate do we ?..Wise up and get ya facts in order …You are the exact type of sheeple that needs to be awakened, geez , give us a break !
Yea right Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:55 am
Those “ALUMINUM” planes weigh over 250,000lbs.
And they were moving at 350-400mph.
Anyone with half a brain can calculate the kinetic energy of the impact and see it was more than enough to damage the structure(s) to the point of failure.
You guys need to adjust your foil hats.
Educator66 Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 3:32 am
What,s that got to do with bldg 7,,,,,,??????? Bldg 7 was not hit by ANYTHING , get it !!!!Bld 1 & 2 should have toppled at the impact point if anything was going to happen…Wake up..
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Nice try. You obviously did not read the any of the above article.
You are that of which can be labelled as a ‘debunker’ and you’re terrible at it. Kinetics? Please. I have a full brain. Not half. The weight and speed of those planes were no match for the vertical structure of the core columns and the force of gravity upon them.
You’re trying to tell us that the force of the lateral movement of the planes, where their force was many times LESS than the force of gravity on the buildings plus the weight of those buildings, was enough to rip apart 5 inch thick steel plate core columns, approximately 2 foot by 5 foot rectangle 5 inch thick boxes? You obviously have no inkling of what Kinetics is. And the most important part of Kinetics deals with THE MOTION OF BODIES AND THEIR CAUSES.
Last time I checked, BUILDINGS DON’T MOVE! The only thing moving in this equation was the planes. And they hit very large and heavy stationery objects. It matters not what speed and weight they were. Unless they were of equal to or greater than the weight and the force of gravity on the buildings that they hit. The buildings structure, design and weight far outweighed the aircraft that hit them. If that theory were true, the effects of that theory would have seen an immediate effect….partial collapse of the upper portion of the buildings. But that did not happen. The entire building fell, but only after nearly an hour of fire. That was the spectacle – or the show. Hit them with planes, let ‘em burn for a bit and then implode them. Then brainwash the masses to ‘think’ that it was due to the plane hits. Important to note: the second building to be hit fell first. They screwed up their order and really buggered it by imploding WTC 7, which experienced sparse fires on only few floors but also fell in under 10 seconds, later that same afternoon, into it’s own footprint.
You didn’t address that. Debunkers don’t. They immediatley ignore WTC 7 and go for the planes hit WTC 1 and 2 and that the planes were going this fast and weighed this much, blah, blah, blah. What about 7? “YEA RIGHT”, I thought so. Big mouth. Go work for NIST!
For a building to fall, in under 10 seconds, you need one of two things; a greater force from above or the remainder needs to be ‘kicked out’ from underneath to facilitate collapse. It matters not the size of building as the force of gravity is equal no matter what size and weight of the object falling to earth.
Those planes were no more a match for those buildings than firing a bullet at a brick wall and expecting that wall to fall.
Don’t come on here, as a troll, and pretend to be a person of science. You’re a shill and a troll. Plain and simple.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Good points , I’d like to add something that you probably know already , namely
that WTC 1 and 2 were build to withstand 2 or more jet liners’ impact , the outer frame
being a net type of construction , and if you poke a hole in a net , it doesn’t rip futher !!!
Besides , they were build to withstand strong winds , which is a much bigger deal
than some dipshit airplane !!!
P.S. If anybody outhere with any brains is saying that they don’t know how to
build goddamn skyscrapers in Amerika , go see a doctor ( and even then ?!? )
nobleUK Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 5:52 am
lol from what i remember about building 7 was it wasnt ‘hit’ by anything
redbear Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
I am NOT alone. Thanx for having the fortitude to say that the emperor might be naked as he parades down the avenue. Better buckle up for some hate mail.
February 12th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
A plane didn’t hit WTC7. The planes that hit towers 1 & 2 were not flying thousands of MPH either “gimmiabreak”. No.. you.. you give us a break from your tireless efforts to back the criminal elite that were the masterminds of the false flag terror op, known as 911. When are you type of people going to realize, you’re not with the elite, you are in the same boat as the rest of the people, you are all dead men walking in the eyes of the elite. You better wake up, and join the real “patriots” in the battle for the Republic. “You are either with us or you are with the real terrorists(the globalists, their puppets, minions and servants), in the words of your last puppet dictator!
Get your head out of your rear, the cloak is coming off, the media is openly talking about the New World Order, NAU, and Amero, your new puppet dictator is here to help you bend over for the elitists some more so they can complete their master plan. Isn’t that funny, not long ago before the elections, when RP tried to talk about those issues he was mocked, and ridiculed. They said he was siding with conspiracy theorists. He was censored because they couldn’t have a Presidential Candidate talking about the real issues. He wasn’t going to get in, the movement was already prepared to accept that, but we are hoping you Obaaaaahhhmmmite sheeple start catching on soon, but we aren’t holding our breath. The time for waking people up is running out, eventually people are going to have to learn on the fly, watching real patriots fight the New World Order minions in the streets, hopefully they learn quick, and pick the right side that day.
Stevo Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:43 am
Well said!
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 5:03 am
Bang ON!
February 12th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Thanks China for showing to the world that steel skyscrapers do not collapse because of fire. This is the beginning of the implosion of America; the truth of what really occurred on 9/11 is going to emerge but because of the ongoing economic crisis and the upcoming terrorist event on US soil (a controlled nuclear explosion targeting a major urban concentration carried out by the CIA, Mossad and MI6 to later on be blamed on Islamic Fundamentalists) will make impossible for ordinary Americans to raise their voices against their own government….too little too late.
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 5:10 am
There have been many major structure fires before and after 911, but the debunkers always ignore science and physics and claim that WTC 1 and 2 fell in under 10 seconds, but those other major stucture fires didn’t fall because, “They weren’t hit with planes loaded with fuel that weighed 250,000 pounds, blah, blah, blah…” They always forget WTC 7. What about WTC 7, debunkers?! No plane. No jet fuel. Regardless, on that day, that was the first and last time buildings fell from “fire”. 3 of them. None since. We’ve had major fires and nne have fallen since. Gee, I wonder why?
February 13th, 2009 at 12:51 am
The only ‘thermal expansion’ that’s going to happen now is the thermal expansion of the TRUTH MOVEMENT………All Hail the UN-DENIABLE TRUTH.
The greatest thing about this all is that the more time passes and the evidence stacks up higher and higher and gets out, the harder it will be for disinfo agents to ‘debunk’.
That’s right, if you’re a paid schill and you keep writing ridiculous crap in forums like this people will hunt you down and get your arse because there will become a time when ALL debunkers are paid sell-outs because the issue of ignorance just wont exist anymore.
MORAL OF THE STORY: If you’re a paid debunker then start running. We have you in our sights…
Don’t think that just because you’re posting on a forum that others can’t track your IP address by hacking into the user info and find out where you’re typing from – Not that I would do this presently, but I forsee a day when the truth movement will kick up a gear and kick all of your arses…..VERY SOON……START RUNNING….
February 13th, 2009 at 12:54 am
This whole skyscraper fire is nothing but truther propaganda. I just went to foxnews.com and typed Beijing Skyscraper Fire in the search bar and there was no story about it.
What is wrong with you Alex? Trying to scare these nice folks here with truth and common sense.
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 5:16 am
FAUX News is your only source? Well, there’s your problem. You’re a FAUX newser? Go sit in the corner. Seriously.
Because FAUX News didn’t have it, the fire didn’t exist? Are you f’in serious? How many stupid people can I find in one visit to this comments section? Spoon-fed masses. Can’t think. Uggh. Anyway…
Perhaps if you Googled ‘Beijing Mandarin Hotel Fire’ under ‘news’, you would have come up with, oh lookie, 1,262 hits! Go figure.
Here’s the link, assmunch: http://news.google.ca/nwshp?hl.....tel%20fire
FascismFighter Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 11:14 am
I thought the sarcasm in my original post was obvious. Apparently it went right over your head.
LTC Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Bullshit!
You totally believed in what you wrote. If that was sarcasm then you need to learn how to write something truly sarcastic.
FascismFighter Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
No LTC you need to think a bit more about what you read. My last sentence should have tipped you off that it was a joke. And if not, I really don’t give a fuck what you think. It was a tongue in cheek statement about people who will believe nothing unless they see it on FOX.
Don’t spew your anger towards me because you were not able to figure it out.
bofors Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Thanks for making your sarcasm clear.
The misinformation level on this forum is high, so I had also assumed you were serious.
FascismFighter Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
If I had been serious bofors I would have left the part about truth and common sense out of my original post. My apologies for the confusion.
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
What you entered didn’t read as sarcasm. Perhaps you should added a disclaimer or better yet, learn how to write in a sarcastic manner in order for it to be effective.
FascismFighter Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
My guess is that most people here seen the sarcasm for what it was.
Out of all the people who read my original post you were the only one who jumped on it.
I accused Alex of using truth and common sense. How much more obvious could it have been that I was being sarcastic?
Perhaps you should take a course in critical thinking.
February 13th, 2009 at 1:24 am
You know, Watson, that your sneering sarcastic attitude doesn’t win any converts, even if it makes you feel better. Of course 9/11 was an inside job, but your half baked rantings only give fuel to debunkers. The Windsor towers did collapse, except for the part with a concrete core. The building in China also had a concrete core. You should mention things like this so that people can’t accuse you of taking things out of context and being selective in reporting facts.
LTC Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I’ll mention one thing:
I agree that selective reporting is almost as bad as outright lying. If we cannot have the courage to report all the facts then we don’t have the right to talk about truth. Sometimes we have to let the chips fall where they may, even if some of the facts “seem” to undermine or weaken what we all believe to be the truth.
In the end honesty and integrity are more important winning an argument. There is, as Alex has said on a few occasions, “An orgy of evidence” concerning 911. We only need to let the evidence speak for itself.
bofors Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Oh please… Paul Joseph Watson does a great job. Try yelling at the morons who think 19 arabs did 9/11 instead.
February 13th, 2009 at 1:36 am
great vids!
February 13th, 2009 at 2:36 am
gimmiAbreak should be gimmeAbrain since your comment proves you need one.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:53 am
http://vodpod.com/watch/591738.....es-exposed Please be MAN enough to accept the final piece to the puzzle! Alex, we will not win if we dont admit it!
please respond Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 10:10 am
dude, jews do not have a corner on human sacrifice. i’m open minded but even i stopped watching it, it was wasting my precious time. nice how it so quickly mentioned and glossed over south american sacrifices and then showed a typical jewish man. apparently volume is not a factor in who is the “most evil” but i’ll say that if this is true than i learned something new and am quite surprised. when i think of people engaged in human sacrifice i do not think of the average jew. look, i don’t want to be sarcastic because of the content, but the guy said people were anti-semite because of the jews commiting human sacrifice. he’s either stupid, and will waste my time with poorly researched propaganda, or decietful, and will waste my time with inconclusive manipulative propaganda. he goes on in his hypocritical idiocy to justify that statement with a seemingly innocent comparison. so i’ll ask you, are you pushing this or did you fall for this?
so maybe some occultist (like our own freaking government) are doing this and those people happen to be jewish, not a stretch since it seems like isreal is connected to us and britain so much. course maybe they are being framed by us and britain. only the elite know since we just get the scraps of evidence they drop from thier table. so some happen to be jewish but you can’t go on to label and hate the entire people! well i guess YOU can. “man enough” i just re-read that it’s funny. he bullhorned the bilderberg group while you blog “no! the nwo’s not occultist the jews are!!!” wow, man enough to accept”. dude there’s no comparison between this clip and endagame or police state. have you seen alex’s bohemian grove? he’s pretty specific and illustrates with much better research that it’s most likely a group of those in power that do this and not exclusively jews.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:31 am
“Made In China” is the first thing that comes to mind. Now think About It.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:57 am
If this was an intervention of the divine, it certanly wasnt for the benefit of the US population (you cant flog up a dead horse) but more for the already existing minority in China that HAD some preservations on what really happened to B7,,they should all now be about 99% in accord.
February 13th, 2009 at 3:59 am
“All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
February 13th, 2009 at 4:46 am
Forget the debunker’s attempts at their futile ravings.All you need to do is remember who they are when our truth army becomes the dominent force.Keep the truth alive for our future dependants and remember those responsible for all those evil acts wont always have the biggest stick.
February 13th, 2009 at 5:25 am
Jet-fuel-based-fires cannot exceed 1,800*F.
The melting point of the World Trade Center steel was 2,700*F.
Jet-fuel-fires could NOT melt any of the World Trade Center steel.
The only people who actually believe 1,300 cubic feet of jet fuel can turn a skyscraper of 50 million cubic feet into toxic talcum powder are wearing straitjackets in rooms with mattress wallpaper.
Google sxolsout and get the facts.
February 13th, 2009 at 5:46 am
THE TRUTH is the greatest threat to the Zionists.
( you don’t have to be a Jew to be a Zionist)
February 13th, 2009 at 5:49 am
lmao i was showing my friend the pic of the building after it was gutted they were saying wow look how the steel has melted in2 a funny shape, his face was classic when i showed him how it was before the fire – priceless
February 13th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Standing, standing… still standing… let’s go up and have a look.
Not me.
February 13th, 2009 at 6:12 am
BORED WITH THE TWITTER,WE HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS HERE AND NOW.AS FOR 911 YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER,BUT YOU CAN’T MAKE THE DUMB ASS DRINK! LEMNITZER AND JOINT CHEIFS KILLED JFK,RK,MLK AND HAVE BEEN RUNNING US AFFAIRS EVER SINCE INCLUDING 911 AND GLOBAL FINANCE WAR.TRIPOD=THE FACULTY OF INTEL ACADEMIA,THE FINANCIAL EXECUTIVE,THE FORCE OF ARMS COMMAND.THESE ARE YOUR MASTERS,ENJOY THE RIDE!
February 13th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Mackdude they are your masters if you let them be. If you fall prey to fear and get excited like Alex. Your life is yours to create. ………… its hard to grasp this, but everything is the way its supposed to be. …….and by the way, life is just a ride, to get your soul ready for eternity and only love will get you there. …..not fear or defeating someone else.
Mackdude Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 7:32 am
I am at peace,i fear no evil,i am the master of my ship.However,i do not turn the other cheek,wear sandals or shave my nuts and cluck like a chicken,save your patronizing pious bullshit for people who don’t have a nose,BTW i don’t think bill hicks was telling us to roll over and be apathetic stoopid hippies.
LTC Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Who cares what Bill Hicks was “telling us” Telling you maybe but no me.
Another “I think I’m awake” sheeple, putting another mere man on a pedestal. Bill Hicks was a comedian who interjected conspiracy and control paradigms into his act. He also hated Christianity and I imagine he has a nice atheist following because of that.
You think you’re the master of your “ship” but we both know that is bullshit. Someone who is “master” doesn’t have to depend on anything but themselves. He doesn’t have to use money or participate in the system in any way whatsoever. I’m sure you don’t meet this criteria.
I’m also sure you’ve been afraid in the past and will be in the future. You mention hippies and sandals like there is something wrong with either of the two. What do you wear and how do you dress? Oh, I’m sorry, you belong to another “group”, probably some conservative mentality that has been drilled into you since childhood. You think your thoughts are your own but they are not.
Somebody always has to be right. Their “way” always has to be the “right” way. People who act like this (You) yet claim to be awake are even worse then those they call sheeple. For they’ve seen truth but are too small to embrace the whole truth.
Mackdude Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Fuck off you dufus!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 6:40 am
I like this one better.
More to the point.
/watch?v=6gU9ekxo3CY&feature=related
February 13th, 2009 at 6:50 am
” The silence is deafening ” I HEAR YOU MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 13th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Alex isn’t censoring these spendthrift pages. He hasn’t got the time to read this fucking waffle.
Including mine. The culprit is a search progarm that knocks back repeats. It’s just deleted my last comment – on the none thermal expansion darn clever Chinese.
Answer = Try later with a differant form of words.
February 13th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Sorry no comparison china building was under construction so fire load was not present.
and there was not a fuel spread
also all fire proofing was intact not effected by explosion.
construction in china and us is also completely different. on these 2 buildings in fact the construction of the wtc buildings at time was totally unique in us
Though there are many ?? about building 7 and wtc still unanswered can not compare the two.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 8:03 am
What are you saying , man ?!?
Blunt Force Trauma Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 9:36 am
“Sorry no comparison china building was under construction so fire load was not present.”
Methinks you’re drunk. Have you not seen the videos of that hotel fire? It was engulfed in flames!
“and there was not a fuel spread”
The what was FUELING the fire. Watch the videos.
“also all fire proofing was intact not effected by explosion.”
What chemicals are YOU huffing?
“construction in china and us is also completely different.”
So in the US they use steel and China uses, what, paper mache? Perhaps they may be different in procedure of construction, but the makeup, designs and structure are inherintly the same. Most architecture and engineering is pretty much universal.
“on these 2 buildings in fact the construction of the wtc buildings at time was totally unique in us”
Nonsense. Clearly you haven’t seen the construction and designs of let’s say the Chrysler building and the Empire State buildings as examples.
“Though there are many ?? about building 7 and wtc still unanswered can not compare the two.”
Why not? They absolutely CAN be compared.
Man, spend some time over at Architects and Engineers for 911 truth. Where oh where is this blantant ignorance coming from? I.Q.s ARE dropping. No wonder Bush and now Owe-bama are getting away with what they are.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
February 13th, 2009 at 8:05 am
There are two facts in the United States, the first is that the country is rotten from the core up. High end criminals are everywhere in American people’s lives, running the show, including and especially the Government, while most people choose to be deaf accepting it the way it is. The next, it is a country with good people and very smart people, but it is equally a country with an even greater percentage of very, very stupid people, gullible, ignorant, a combination of, or all of the above, that are willing to accept anything and everything, thinking that things will just miraculously go away, even when there own lives are being torn to shreds at this very moment. You either do something about it or accept the fact that the United States is infested with high end criminals and there is nothing you wish to do about it and therefore choose to continue to suffer the consequences. And NO, Obama will not save you. !
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Tha’ss ma man !!!
February 13th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Those people watching the fire should have been running for their lives after knowing what happens to buildings (Larry Silverstein’s buildings) after 9/11.
February 13th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Is it just possible that China planned this.
They are in a no win situation at the moment, massive US financial exposure with little chance of recompense. The US government will not just let them sink the Dollar without a very bloody nose.
At present the NWO can only keep fighting the War On Terror because of 9-11, why not burn down a building and then appear embarrassed, knowing full well that the Internet will fuel the information fire (sorry for that), debunk the myth from outside.
Those clever Chinese.
Sounds like a plan to me!
February 13th, 2009 at 9:57 am
it is a miracle! plane crashes. large steel titanium engines do not disintegrate! impossible!
February 13th, 2009 at 10:00 am
alex jones against censorship? or just humor…
February 13th, 2009 at 10:00 am
there is nothing to prove here , Mr. Larry Silverstein admitted on PBS that they decided to “PULL IT” so right there is your fucking proof guys
February 13th, 2009 at 10:00 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
February 13th, 2009 at 10:02 am
spread this video out to them guys , ALL thos fucking debunkers
February 13th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Please,when it comes to government conspiracies I’m as paranoid as the next reader but you must remember that the Chinese building IS NOT IDENTICAL TO OUR BUILDINGS AND CANNOT BE EXPECTED TO BEHAVE IN THE EXACT SAME FASHION.
LTC Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
You’re missing the point Dave.
The buildings do not have to be exactly alike to behave in a similar fashion. Both were built from concrete and steel, both were very large and both caught fire.
WTC 7 had only sporadic and small fires burning on Sept 11, 2001. The Chinese building was literally engulfed in flames and it burnt for many hours.
The main points to consider are: The Chinese building was constructed out of similar materials and withstood massively hot fires for hours and hours and was still standing after the fires were put out.
WTC building #7 had very small fires that were contained and were never really a danger as the media reported. The fires in WTC 7 were never out of control and couldn’t have caused the building to collapse. WTC 7 fell in under 10 seconds in virtual free fall, something that is physically impossible, regardless what government bought scientists may say.
It is impossible for a building with internal supports to fall at or near the speed of gravity. An inner core causes resistance and should slow down any structural failure, depending on how bad the interior has been damaged.
I just can’t understand why so many people chose to be willfully ignorant concerning the events that took place on 911. I have my theories why people don’t want to see the obvious truth, but a theory is just a theory, something that hasn’t been proven.
When it comes to the massive failures on 911, all of the various failures, whether it be national security, air traffic control, organization, whatever, you can’t seriously think that the relatively small forces at work could have knocked down two of the worlds largest buildings, and in less than a few hours!
This isn’t theory, it is fact.
February 13th, 2009 at 11:04 am
911 was definitly an inside job, what ever hapened to bin laden was he just a pupet yes the jews used him as a front bencher, everybody research your self i did go to you tube listen to mr phil schneider he was a real american patriot, now as millions die in this world they will escape it will be too late for us , also the elite will be safe underground as normal people will die, no money no honey, we need REVALUTION FAST
February 13th, 2009 at 11:13 am
QUESTION TO THE WORLD, THE AMERICAN MEDIA NEVER TELLS THE TRUTH WHO OWNS AND CONTROLS IT. IS IT THE JEWS, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL JEWS, WHEN YOU WATCH OTHER COUNTRYS NEWS CHANNELS VIA SATTELITE ITS DIFFERENT STORY ALL TOGETHER WHO SHOULD WE BELEIVE? LOOK FOR YOURSELF AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF
LTC Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Steve,
Why not call them “Zionists”?
Not all Jews are “Zionists” and not all “Zionists” are Jews. You’re condemning a whole race of people without definitive proof. Either you’re just a racist hate monger or you’re just ignorant. Which one I have no idea.
Yes, the American media lies but so do many international media outlets, including the BBC. If the American media lies more it is because the majority of the people allow themselves to consume such blatant propaganda and have lost the ability/art of critical thinking.
As for Bin Laden…He could have been a willing participant or he could have been a complete patsy…Who really knows? Remember, the Bin Laden and Bush families have been very close for many decades, both funding and investing in each others business ventures.
Osama Bin Laden is a mute point at this point. Isn’t it odd that he was never caught? Odder still is that a jerk-off CNN new reporter could find him yet the combined power and resources of the C.I.A., NSA, MI5&6, the ISA, Mossad, and other very powerful intelligence organizations failed to find him?
These facts themselves speak volumes of truth all on their own.
I don’t doubt Zionist power and influence over world affairs, nor do I doubt that many of them, possibly the majority, of being Jewish. I just think it is irresponsible to condemn every Jew because of the acts of a few powerful Zionist Jews.
I could argue that the ruling elite on planet earth are white men and since that is the case all white men should be slaughtered. But it would be wrong of me or anyone else to condemn a whole race of people because a certain group coming from said race are enslaving everyone else. You’re just fueling the fires of hate and ignorance my friend.
February 13th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Check out the great PDF document I just found!!
The top 13 illuminati bloodlines by Fritz Springmeier, the whole thing!!
The top 13 illuminati bloodlines.pdf
+ WE CAN SAVE IT !!
http://911truth-sherbrooke.org.....ringmeier/
February 13th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Did I just got censored? Wanted to say the Beijing hotel is a reinforced concrete structure (not steel frame) – can anyone confirm this?
No one should compare bridge & building. But I think WTC7 is not comparable to the hotel too.
February 13th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Why is it that now you have people saying that WTC 7 was hit by a plane? This claim is popping up all over the web, i think they know that they were caught in a big lie about WTC 7.
stuee Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
The claim is that there is just as much verifiable evidence of wreckage that a plane hit WTC 7 as hit any other location on 911. Not one single piece of airliner debris has EVER been verified from any of the 4 planes on 911. There were no airliner parts verified at WTC 7 either…ergo….just as much evidence exists at WTC 7 as WTC 1, 2 , the Pentagon, or Shanksville that a plane existed at all!
Of course the buildings were demolished. Because there was no jet fuel, because there were no commercial planes. You were lied to by the military contractor owned US media and your military profited government. Now find the address to your nearest FEMA camp and enjoy……..
February 13th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
One question: how many supporting pillars and walls were taken out by falling debris from a neighboring collapsing building before the building in Bejing caught fire? None? That’s what I thought. So your assertion that fire alone collapsed WTC 7 is just a bunch of bullshit.
Hangfire Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Boot licker.
Judgement Day Reply:
February 13th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Servile douche.
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