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Bill Requires You to Identify Yourself At All Times
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WOAI News Radio
April 16, 2009
Editor’s note: So much for probable cause and the Fourth Amendment. According to the Kolender v. Lawson ruling of 1983, a demand for ID constitutes a search. Hundreds of years of common law and the Bill of Rights are now being relegated to the memory hole.
Papers please!!
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Currently, it is illegal for a person to give a false name to police, but there is no law rewiring a person to provide i.d. at an officer’s whim. And State Sen. Tommy Williams (R-The Woodlands) doesn’t like the sound of this bill.
“We still live in a free society,” he said. “I don’t want police officers to be able to pull you over and ask that you identify yourself.”
The bill would also require individuals to provide their date of birth and ‘residence address’ to police.
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April 16th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
What the hell happened to “probable cause”? Next will be no miranda rights!
Theywontchipme Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Anytime I hear someone say”Well I have nothing to hide” I just want to put them in a back-breaker! Damn yuppies
Jeremiah III Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
They’ll wake up once they get ticketed at random roadblocks, strip searched and jack-booted.
too late Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
By then it will be too late.
Outrage Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
NO, they won’t. The sleeping sheep will just comply so as not to make any trouble. It’s SO freaking important to just get along, even at the cost of your liberty. Right? YEAH RIGHT!!! Damn politically correct Facists!
qi woo Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Trained to submit to there Masters muscle,programing us to not question there authority.What makes the people we elect just turn against us,they turn into clones for Tyranny?
general Reply:
April 18th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Well the cop pigs know how important privacy is cause they wear masks when they raid your house. the stupid cop pigs will love you wearing a sign on your back with your address on it so they can arrest you then send their buddies to your house to steal you blind.
John Henke Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
These suckers that say “I have nothing to hide’, are what I like to call the “no Jews in my attic” crowd.
God damned fools! All of them!
zepa21 Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 1:23 am
That’s the best quip I’ve read in awhile.
kittygiagirl Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 1:13 am
I hear you. They will wake up once a strip search consists of checking their rectum for bombs or weapons at every check point.
John Henke Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:21 am
Hey, they may find polyps. Then we can thank them for the free examination, unless they charge us for it.
zeefrog Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 6:12 am
GET A FUCKING LIFE YOU PIECE OF SHIT……!!!!!
I DON T CARE WHO YOU MIGHT THINK YOU ARE….YOU ARE SCUM BAG AND SHOULD KEEP ON FUCKING YOUR DOG.
x-man Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I once was told by an old wise man this saying… He said, “Go Ahead, Ignore Your Rights, They’ll Go Away” Everyone needs to assert their rights and practice free speech whenever possible! Together we will take back our country…
Dred Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
We no longer have rights in this country, only privilege granted by our government that can be taken away at a moments notice.
Homebrew Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
As long as you believe that your rights are Privliege’s granted by Government, and wont stand up and speak out for your GOD given rights, then they win. x-man is correct, you need to show them that YOU know your rights are not privliege’s and assert your rights.
Muck the police Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Sorry Mr. officer I don’t have an I.D. card!! LMAO
betty blue Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 6:45 am
what does lmah mean.
BIG JOHN LIPSCUM Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 7:36 am
LMAO LAUGH MY @SS OFF
LuckyOne Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 7:53 am
It means laughing my ass off.
Jeremiah Joseph Sturk Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:05 am
NO, NO , NO, THEY WILL, NEED AND ARE GONNA IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND WHO THEY ARE WORKING FOR…WE KNOW WHO WE ARE..FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS AND WILL NO LONGER PUT UP WITH GLOBALIST BANKER PIMP JOBS!!!
AND THEY CAN KISS OUR PIMPELD ASSES IF THEY DON’T LIKE IT!!!
Bad Slave Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 11:16 am
If I’m not mistaken, I think the Supreme Court has already ruled on this.
ScrewyL Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
*wink* — no, you MUST be wrong
common sense Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
violates 4th and 5th amendment, wont hold up in court
null and void.
operation_b Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
There is no such thing as “miranda rights.”
The rights you have are enumerated in the Constitution.
The Miranda Warning is just a formal reminder of your constitutional rights due to the decision in Miranda Vs. Arizona. Mostly so you don’t get coerced into incriminating yourself and violating your own 5th amendment protection.
San Jacinto not another alamo Reply:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:31 am
Error: Our federal Constitution enumerates powers granted to the created federal government by the several sovereign states; the Tenth Article of our Bill of Rights reserves all rights otherwise. Government has powers, not rights as we enjoy as free people.
Sheeple don’t know or have no opinion.
Usurpers usurp. It is an ongoing power grab under color of law, rebellion by statists against our Ratified Constitution and We the People and the several states.
Some people fancy themselves as rulers over others.
These statists violate THE only social contract, our Law of the Land, which has over four generations in the 20th Century been ignored and bastardized until politicians in and out of black robes are in open rebellion against We the People defending our Ratified Constitution. In most courts statutes, regulations and “bench made law” control issues rather than our “historical”, inconvenient Ratified Constitution. Judges “amend” our Constitution to meet their preferences. Flagrant usurpations. Not “good behavior”, the Constitutional requirement for continued employment as judges and justices.
Statists refuse the fact that our temporary federal employees’ only permission to have any power over anyone or anything is granted to them only through our federal Ratified Constitution’s enumerated powers. We the People and the several states reserve all other rights and powers not so granted. We endure outrageous powers of the State because the Statists have usurped all powers they can because it “IS”, “BORG” as it were, rather than the remain within the specifically limited creation of the several states.
See the Endangered Species Act, among many many others. White men, especially highly qualified, have had their 14th Amendment equal rights stripped by SCOTUS called affirmative action. What does “reasonable” mean within our 4th Amendment?
Secession is our right inherent in our Tenth Amendment. Lincoln paid for his war crimes. The War of Northern Aggression was in flagrant violation of our 10th Amendment and Sherman’s March to see as ordered by Lincoln engaged in 19th Century .war crimes against civilians.. Think the Clintonazis’ BATF/FBI-HRT two full auto assaults by Branch Davidian’s at Waco, Texas. Usurped police powers indeed.
FWIW, Massichewsit was the first state to threaten secession.
Never forget: It is a crime to lie to cops; cops lie as SOP.
When asked for your “papers”, ask for confirmable proof of their identity as currently licensed police officers. Uniforms and badges are cheap via the www. A person saying “I’m a cop.” in or out of uniform does not make it so.
ScrewyL Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Nothing happened to probable cause. This law is Null and Void. You have the right to fire upon your attackers.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
“We still live in a free society”. Where? The Land Of Make-Believe? Oh, look, there’s King Friday…
Axewinder Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I agree “free Society”. 30 years ago I was being harrassed for walking down the street. They ask for you ID and you better give it to them. Do it or go to jail. That my friends is called “Controll”. So much for freedom.
As Long as I do not infringe upon the rights of another human being I have every right to do whatever I want without being interogated. F-ck big brother!
John Henke Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Agreed. F##k big brother!
matt Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 9:03 am
amen!
Fleur de lys Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I see a royal flush up ahead!…down the yellow brick road…IT WILL CHANGE…
WAKE UP!!!
Please dont wake me up!
Fight or Flight Reply:
April 18th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Why’s it always historically Protestant societies that have these awful things happening to them these days? Something in the water?
Georgette Orwell Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:33 am
“We still live in a free society.”
Yeah, and war is peace….
Are any other Infowarriors as sick to death as I am of hearing/reading this placating, completely false slogan spouted by all the sheep and their handlers?
I suppose like most things, “freedom” is relative; We, in the USA, are “free” alright… compared to???
Cracker Joe Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Georgette O,
We’ve got tiny slivers of liberty and those are constantly under attack.
Won’t be long before their gone too.
Creeping incrementalism and next thing you know, you’re being cooked
for supper.
Cracker Joe Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
“they’re”
John Henke Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:23 am
Tommy Williams don’t know much does he?
April 16th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
“Your papers, now!”
x-man Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
On The Ground And Spread Em’!
common sense Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
thats why i only carry a few bucks and no wallet or id and i forget my social.
x-man Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Its safer that way. Just learn Spanish and you’ll be fine. They think you’re an illegal and let you go.
JF Reply:
April 18th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Sad but true and it stinks to high heaven.
joel Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
their gathering biometrics on each of us so they know what we’ll do before we do it.game wardens,we are cattle.gestapo tatics.
John Henke Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Heil Obanga!
April 16th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
This is just window dressing. Cops can beat and taser you for not showing your ID. The only question is, “Does this cop have a soul?” If the answer is no – you show your ID or you get beaten and arrested. The Texas Senate pushing this is just making common practice into law.
Wayland Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 1:52 am
The chances are you will live.
If you stand up to them they do get a bit angry. Just stay firm. They wimp out in the end, even if you have to get arrested.
Lexington Minuteman Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Yes, I find that if I maintain a stern attitude and make constant eye contact, they usually back down fairly quickly. Never cower before these thugs – NEVER, because they are looking for any possible weakness to use to their advantage.
ew keane Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 11:56 am
a professional salesman told me it helps to use the following body language;
point your toes at the person you are communicating with.
stand streight, keep your chin lifted and look down your nose.
lock your eyes on theirs, and dont blink until they do, and
don’t look away. (this is not as easy as it sounds, it takes
practice).
after the person breaks eye contact, match their body
language.
hands at sides, palms out slightly when the person
communicating is speaking. Listen to every word.
arms crossed when you have nothing to say and
want to conclude communication .
eye contact is the key. it is a test of strength of character.
hope this helps
Glen2Gs Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 11:02 am
So True…
April 16th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Spin that wheel of sings!!
… WHO AM I??!!!
IT Will be…9… 11!!
http://911truth-sherbrooke.org.....preserved/
Theywontchipme Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
damn….evil spawn of widows
April 16th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
This is sick. When I was raised, the ONE THING I was told NEVER happened in a free society was to be asked to “show your papers”. In Australia we now have to show a birth certificate or passport to get work via a job agency, supposedly because a bunch of people in a GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT were working without their VISA’s. It’s like the chant says, this IS what a police state looks like.
A.G.
John Henke Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
You Assies are farther along than us in the states. I makes me sick to see whats happened in Australia.
You’re going to have to kill all of them if you ever hope to free yourselves.
Good luck.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Man….. and I was thinking of moving to Texas…. Welcome to the U.S.S.A. and its all down hill from here folks, unless we put the brakes on this train NOW. Our government is completely out of control on most every level. Its about time we start pushing back. These clowns in elected office need to be removed at the earliest possible opportunity. Paul/Palin 2012 anyone?
john tito Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Paul/Palin? I’d go moose hunting with Palin in a heartbeat. I’d do a variety of things with her, given the opportunity, but I haven’t seen anything that makes me want her to be president.
I would say Paul/Powell 2012, but Powell had to go and lie to the united nations… Thanks allot Colin.
Where’s Dagny Taggert when we need her?
Theywontchipme Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Paul / Baldwin
HR Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Galts Gulch with me……….!
“I swear by my life and my love of it….. that I will not live for another man, nor ask any man to live for the sake of mine”
Gone Galt?
John Henke Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Stay out of Texas. I was there, and I can guarantee their government is the most Constitution hating government I have ever seen.
Texans may revolt eventually, but they will have to kill the state government first.
I was in the capital building in Austin once hassling politicians. All I can say is I came out of there with a stiffy because it looked like I was in the best little whore house in Texas! Damn! But all of those girl Fridays were dressed to get laid!
Michael Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 8:53 am
There are too many illegals there. Outnumbered!!!
A Patriot Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Texas is great – Austin in particular – however Texas became a “police state” when The Federal Road system was constructed.
After that Texas could no longer afford to keep up their massive roads and had to bow before their Federal Masters.
This became doubled when the Federal (and Unconstitutional) War on Drugs hit in the 80’s – allowing the Texas Govt. to fund itself, and please it’s Fed Masters, with outrageous heavy handed militaristic Drug Enforcement.
The State never really recovered from that.
However their are degrees of enforcement – in Dallas you are nothing but a prisoner, where in Austin and San Antonio you may have some individual liberties – but don;t get too attached to them!
John Henke Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Too late, I’m attached.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
If asked to indentify myself… I would reply that I am a sovereign being… of the human species if asked to be more specific. Since our names have been given to us… do we not have the right to refuse to receive or accept them. In a free society, can anyone require a human being to have a name? If anyone has a link with more info on this whole corporate entity of the person, please post it… all systems have a crack in them… we’ve got to find it and beat them at their own game.
ScrewyL Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 2:58 am
That’s a Fool’s Fight.
Don’t compromise!
Apostle Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 5:54 am
You can actually say all that with 50,000 volts of Tazer inc. coursing through your body? Wow!
matt Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
we don’t need to find loopholes! we need to stop them from enstating this shit, and start prosecuting the facists that initiated such an anti-american, anti-liberty bill! someone take the congressman to court for attempted destruction of basic human rights!
April 16th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Whoever thought this one up needs a new job pronto. These @$$holes just don’t give up on anything. The war for our rights has already started. If we don’t assert our rights, we will lose them. What we really need is a law to end all new laws. Set the status quo at 1/1/09 and tell these Fkers where to jump off.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
That behavior reminds me of 37’s varsovy ghettos.
Should i wear a mark , a holy °#*? beast code for the interpreter.
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How's This?? Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
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April 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
What is this world coming to? “but there is no law REWIRING a person to provide i.d. at an officer’s whim.” Hope not!
But other than that, show me your papers.
Merlin Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Short-Circuit of the brain
lol
April 16th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
April 20th is Hitlers Birthday. What usually happens on this date?
wizard Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Don’t know.
Theywontchipme Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
My dog died that day last year . Man, I really miss him
http://s582.photobucket.com/al.....pics/Luke/
April 16th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
It doesn’t take much to find the terrorists, our wonderful government officials just need to look in a mirror. Yes, I live in Texas and my US representative works about as good as the elderly trying to get it on in the dark.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
WELCOME TO NAZI AMERICA! FUCK YOU AND YOUR “PAPERS PLEASE” BILL TOO!
IT IS NOW PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THEY AREN’T GOING TO BE HAPPY UNTIL THEY START A REVOLUTION!!!
betty blue Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 6:54 am
lets bring it on now
April 16th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
x,,,that was funny,,you made me laugh,,your so right,,
April 16th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
My husband was stopped a few months ago because he was out walking at about 2:00am (he does this all the time because he competes in bodybuilding and gets in 2-3 cardios in a day). He’s actually stopped two serious crimes because of the hours he keeps (no, he did not physically stop them, he called 911). Anyway, the officer asked him for his ID and my husband said he only had his keys on him and gave the officer our address. Another officer happened to come by and told the first officer he was her neighbor and they left. My point being, they can and will ask for your ID if they feel like it.
And I can Ask you for a million Dollars Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Doesn’t mean I have to show it to you for no perfectly good reason(probable cause).
Apostle Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Probable cause he’ll knot that head if you don’t give em to him!
betty blue Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 6:55 am
whooooa I’m enlightened
Force Winds Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
A lot of us posters are getting real tired of you smartasses.
TURNABOUT=FAIRPLAY Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
A lot of us smartasses are getting tired of you posters.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Lets just keep good records and the promise that criminals will all end up in jail if they are lucky.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
ask for their Id and badge number etc if the police ask for any info….
April 16th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
This Dan Patrick guy is a real loser. Checkpoint, blood samples and now “Papers Please!” This guy needs to go back to talk radio. He was a failure then, and he’s POS now.
Glen2Gs Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Dan Patrick is Glenn Beck’s BFF (Best Forever Friend..Get your Mind out of the Gutter)….Really! It was Patrick that got Beck to “Sober Up” and become a Mormon…Patrick would still be working at a 10k watt AM station in Houston if it wasn’t for Beck pulling strings and getting Patrick a job at WOAI…Which is owned by Clear-Channel which Syndicates Beck’s Show.
Just another reason to HATE Glenn Beck…Like we need one
Glen2Gs Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Woops…My Bad…Patrick is the owner of the 10kw AM in Houston…He is NOT with WOAI
April 16th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V025E_b5I4g We need to be aware of this violation of the constitution. Lets be honest websites like youtube get huge traffic and patriots like us get thier videos get demoted however despite this many vids exploiting the government become successful. We need to be aware of this issue now!
April 16th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
This law, will be challenged in court and will be found to be unconstitutional.
living0history Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
are you going to challenge it?
living0history Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
you should
April 16th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
ENOUGH WITH THE MACHO TALK. “they can get me to show my papers,im a sove-*wham wham wham* picking you up off the pavement. Dont get me wrong, not giving in is important-but individual resistance without coordinated and unified protest only results in a lot of dead patriots. They WILL pick you off one by one.
We need a large chunk of the population one the same page. I cant give you a meaningful number but we obviously dont have enough yet. It HAS to be something where we can talk about it in public and not be alone on it.
we also need to wake up the police and military-all the grunts who will be slaughtered along with us serves nobody bUt the elite.
HAND OUT FLIERS, DVDS. and PUT UP POSTERS!!
AND LEAVE OUT THE BIBLE TALK IT ONLY IMMEDIATELY CUTS OFF A LARGE PART OF THE PUBLIC. not trying to deny anyone the right to spread their truth, but WE NEED TO WIN AND THAT WILL REQUIRE ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET. NOW IS THE TIME TO STOP THE ELITE, NOT SAVE PEOPLES SOULS! THAT WILL COME IN DUE TIME! TALK ABOUT IT AMONGST FRIENDS, BUT PRESENT THE NWO INFO AS NEUTRALLY AS POSSIBLE-OR PEOPLE WILL OFTEN THINK YOU HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA AND LOSE THE MESSAGE IN THE PROCESS. REPENT ON YOUR OWN TIME. NOW IS THE MOMENT FOR NONVIOLENT REVOLUTION
Robert46 Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
If you are waiting for a large chunk of the population, then you will never see that happen. didn’t happen before the 1st american revolution. it was only a minority that made a stand! I a American can’t walk down a sidewalk without being harrassed for no competent or valid reason then this is NOT America. It has become a tryanny! Fact….No govt offical or agent of the govt/police officers have rights. They have responsibilitys and privildges, which by the way do NOT overide the RIGHTS of the people! Lets see! What would the Founding Fathers of 1775 say about what is going on right now!
Again if you are waiting for a large chunk of the american population to stand up, then you will grow old, die and your ancestors will grow old and die and it will still never happen
It's Time Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
They, our FF, would call all of us cowards and spit in our faces. Then they would turn around, get everyone organized and armed, then head off to DC to take this country back. That’s what they would do.
betty blue Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 6:59 am
a plan, a solution,an action patriot.
Michael Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Sounds like “Rodney King” all over again….if the MSM would cover it.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Maybe , yet we should still let them push first. When they are on thier toes spent is when we give them a big present
April 16th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
with people like alex jones….comes a matrix of fear…mongering
can u imagine the panic this guy creates?
Yes, he wakes many people up and has good news and guests….though exagerrated most the time
but man….he will just bring the end sooner….is that what you want jones?
you gotta have some faith and actually take over the government itself….
ron paul does a good job of it…but fishing net of the nwo?
Theywontchipme Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Must be slim pickings of qualified applicants for the gov. troll postition /\ /\ /\
arwijn Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
piss off you damn troll!
BIG JOHN LIPSCUM Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 7:50 am
DON’T YOU GET IT G-D???????AMERICANS ARE LAZY BRAINDEAD RETARDS AJ HAS TO BE OVER THE TOP TO MOTIVATE THESE SHEEPLE, THEY ARE PROGRAMMED TO RESIST ALL TRUTH.AND ON TOP OF THAT,CAN’T YOU SEE ALMOST EVERYTHING THE GOV. NEEDS TO TURN AMERICA INTO NAZI GERMANY IS IN PLACE OR ON THE BOOKS.JUST LOOK AT THIS NEW BILL WERE WE HAVE TO SHOW OUR I D(PAPERS)AT ANY GIVEN TIME FOR NO REASON.AND YOU SAY AJ IS FEAR MONGERING?THE TRUTH MUST HURT.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Them “Lawmakers” should be given Lie Detector Tests , before they run for office.
Ask them one Question…If elected, will you preserve, and protect the Constitution of the United States of America?
If they fail, they are automaticly disqualified to run for office.
living0history Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Hypothetically delectable but, immediately, impractical
April 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
WHO started this god awful bill???
I suggest everyone protests this, and get the State Government of Texas to work on more pressing issues like making sure that the State redeclares sovereignty and denounces the federal government!
Things need to be put in motion!
If this is allowed to pass it will set a dangerous precedent!
Get busy everyone!
April 16th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Show me zour papers pleaze. No gettzin to the market unlezz zour papers are zin order. Thank zou, and have a pleazant day, or we can; how can I say, show zou ze hard way of thing.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
it sounds like another conditioning maneuver, to get us used to the fact that they are going to implement these sorts of laws in the future, and that’s why the details are vague. it’ll get forgot about and then one day whooops we passed it! but let’s hope not.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Papers please?
April 16th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
in the early 90’s I was arrested in El Paso for not having Id, I had lost my wallet and my drivers license. they said it was a law to have id. I was having a smoke in the parking lot of a mall while my bud ran in to get something. I hope the name and ss# I made up didn’t get anyone in trouble. F*n gestapo. Brand new cop car though didn’t even smell like puke. I was out before they fingerprinted me . That wouldn’t happen today.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
This law may very well be found unconstitutional, but in the mean time it will be used ruthlessly and they will attempt to push beyond its current scope. Since there’s no penalty for making or enforcing unconstitutional laws, they can push out as many as they need to accomplish their objectives. It may take decades for that to happen.
In the end, people will end up cowed and uncertain. They will go along just to avoid the possibility that they might get clubbed or tasered so even if the law is scrapped, it will accomplish its goal.
By the way. Wasn’t Gov. Perry of Texas yammering about ‘freedom,’ and government intrusion just the other day? What a tool that guy is.
Ken
http://www.LaserGuidedLoogie.com
April 16th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
ATTENTION: The new film by IFC (NEW WORLD ORDER) is now available on youtube. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/view_pl…..26665062A8
April 16th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/view_pl.....26665062A8
April 16th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Give them Your Name and a Bill Of rights and tell them to learn them. There asking for a rebellion in this country and that’s what they’ll get. Time to stand on what ever side of the fence you believe in. Least you’ll know you had your HONOR. More than they can say for themselves. they took a Buy out, Sold there souls to Government. Same Government that ruined this country . Stole what our fathers gave to this country. Every Service man and woman should watch Rules of engagement. see if you believe you’d arrest your own Mother for speaking her mind on a Public street? Thats what there asking you all to do is arrest her. they’ll change the Law to fit there need. Even in this Movie Rules of engagement, a Politician was going to bury this Marine, so a politicians picture could be rosey. Who you going to trust a Politician or a fellow civilian who stands for what you have, and thats Honor.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Can also watch it in super high quality for free on the IFC website http://www.ifc.com/videos/new-.....clip-1.php
April 16th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
My home state has had this same issue to some for years on the books and a majority of states are the same way. By refusing when asked that is the probable cause according to the statue.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
in nazi germany and communist russia,you had produce I.D. and written premission to travel past check points in their countries. glad we have alex jone and his knowledge of history. rememeber the french underground during WW II? gather your TRUSTED friends and plan your protests. obama has been deserted by his masters,lets drive him mad with in-your-face-patriotism.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Show me your papers, sheeple.
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. When will enough be enough?
April 16th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
dont taze me bro!
April 16th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
“Probable cause” LOL
No such thing… Whenever I get harassed and pulled over, they say I fit the description of a suspect to some crime and the description is sooo vague.
Once the officer even handcuffed me and sat me in his car while he searched mine, and coming up empty handed he said “I just wanted to check you out, I haven’t seen you around here before”.
Maybe this is a surprise in some areas, but not in mine.
sandy Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 7:52 am
fit the description…yea it sucks.. thankfully for me, unless a woman with ass length extrememly curly hair goes on a crime spree, I guess I will not fit in the description catagory lol
April 16th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
haha!! 3 words to that bull.. KISS MY ASS!!
no one will ever go along with that sh*t. FAIL
April 16th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
“Well, I have nothing to hide.”
You may not have anything to hide currently, but the more tyrannical the government gets, the more you’ll have to hide. And it is generally not a wise idea to let them set the precedent on violating our rights. Even if we had angels watching over us in government it wouldn’t be wise to give them too much power because they could turn tyrannical in the future.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Every day is just another insult. They murdered 3000 people on 9/11. FBI was involved. They already started the war. People should walk with a taser or something and when the brainwashed policeman doesn’t understand that he’s serving you and not the other way around, we should respond to assault with legitimate force and file lawsuits against the police. Criminals in uniforms are still criminals.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
I’m going to have my name legally changed to “Fuck You” just for situations like this.
Sirreal6 Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 5:30 am
Phukin Phunny
sandy Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 7:52 am
lmao
April 17th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Who ever wrote this measure or bill should be arrested immediately for treason PERIOD!!!! but it will just still be business as usual.
By the time we wake up, we will either be dead or in a prison camp.
April 17th, 2009 at 1:26 am
all that needs to be said about this is show me your papers as everday passes I see this country going twoards a state of facism some would say its already here check out the movie THE END OF AMERICA
April 17th, 2009 at 5:28 am
“step AWAY from the constitution and get ON THE GROUND, NOW!”
April 17th, 2009 at 5:29 am
“DO IT!…DO IT NOW!!!”
April 17th, 2009 at 6:49 am
They are begining to test your resolve. Will you give in? If you give in you are their slave.
What happened to freedom in America? It isnt here anymore. Tyranny is growning.
I will not accept this. We cannot allow them to treat us like Britain treats its citizens. This cannot be allowed! Fuck the NWO!!
Washington Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 7:37 am
You’re right this can not be allowed. The problem is that to stop it or resist it will take “real” men, and actual fighting to show that the people are ready to fight.
Unfortunately, the only thing American men do, is piss and moan and bitch and fuss.
How can we, the people, join together to fight such a gigantic opponent, when even on this Alex Jones site, there’s hardly 50% that agree, and the others just call names and preach religion (another tool used by the NWO to separate and divide us).
America ended long ago my excited friends, and unless someone drops from the other side, they will never take your tea parties, or any other peaceful protests seriously.
When the NWO minions have a problem, they don’t demonstrate or have rallies, they kill the problem and remove it.
Remember Lincoln, Madison, JFK, Martin Luther King, and anyone else who was a menace to them? They didn’t have tea parties demonstrating about them, they dropped them.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Have none of us learned yet? Some maybe waking up, but not nearly enough to let go of the division that has been instilled in their hearts and minds from years and generations of brainwashing and dumbing down.
The NWO minions are moving faster each day, for they do know that sooner or later the people will in some fashion revolt to be heard.
If you haven’t read the Bankers Manifesto, then you don’t understand their goal and how they will accomplish it. The first thing they wanted to accomplish was to get as many people out of their homes, which is occurring now. For as stated in the Bankers manifesto ” People without homes are far more tractable (controlled), and are far less willing to fight.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Incredible, so long to freedom….
April 17th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Texas Constitution
Article 1.
Sec. 2.
INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:08 am
If the police ask to see your ID.You should also ask for theirs as well ..who knows they may not be who they claim to be.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Holy balls…… just like Nazi Germany with the troops stopping
people at will saying “..papers please”…
WTF!?!?
April 17th, 2009 at 8:36 am
I am curious as to what all the MILLIONS OF ILLEAGAL Mexicans in Texas will offer Police as identification.
I will assure you this.
I am a man, not a boy or a coward.
If any law enforcement rolls up on me and demands ID and I have done NOTHING wrong or have broken NO LAW.
Then under that situation, I will be forced to defend myself as a free man.
At 6 feet 2 inches and 200 pounds and an avid Weight Lifter , I will defend myself to the best of my abilities.
American Patriot
Michael Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 9:01 am
That be the case, I’d be all for it. The more illegals that get deported the better. Enough with their BS. If their country is so bad, they need to stand up and do something about it. Instead of invading Iraq and Afghanistan, we should have taken over Mexico 100 years ago!
Learnedthehardway2000 Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
You mean you’re going to beat up a cop just because he asks you for your I.D.????
April 17th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Papers Please(:{) Now everyone will have to some fake Ids just to be free, sort of sounds like life behind the iron curtain. Oh yea if need any of those IDs, just ask an Illeagal, they no where to get them:)
April 17th, 2009 at 10:03 am
This has been going on in Florida for years.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:07 am
check……. every state has passed similar bills. You are guilty and must prove your innocent…. cops now have complete authority to “decide” guilt on anything they wish. Better wake-up to your local city council, county commissioner and State government usurptions of ALL “rights”….. you have none ……… carry a weapon at all times regardless of local ‘legals’ or you will be sacraficed. Fight or die …….. survival of the fittest…….. thats all that is left…….. a uniform rapped in the color of law is not an arguement ………
“No-one may initiate the use of physical force”
“My terms are a mans right to exist for his own sake ……… I do not care to live or work on any other” AR
matt Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 9:27 am
digging the rand! she was and remains dead on. how sad that we have to keep reminding our ovine bretheren of words that should be inherent in every soul!
I'm So Bored With The U-S-A Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Ayn Rand was a hack who wrote terrible books filled with even worse theories.
She portrayed all rich people as smart, hard-working, and beautiful, and all of the poor as stupid, lazy, and hideously ugly.
She was opposed to public schools, public roads, police, military, minimum wage, workplace safety, public health laws, and pretty much anything & everything we associate with a modern, civilized society.
You may be opposed to the level of taxes we pay in this country – despite the fact that they’re lower than in pretty much every other country in the world – but I’d like to think that we all recognize, as the founding fathers did in the constitution, that their collection is necessary for the operation of government.
Well, Ayn Frank believed, much like David Rockefeller, that people – especially wealthy people – ought to just send in any sum they chose to at the end of the year, including NOTHING.
She was even opposed to charity, people, even though she started poor herself and accepted assistance from people better off than her throughout her life.
She was such a horrible writer, and her ideas were so bad, that this assessment of her work was probably the only thing Noam Chomsky and William F. Buckley ever agreed on.
We’re talking about BOTH Michelle Malkin AND Angelina Jolie’s favorite writer here, folks, and that’s quite a brain trust…
(Think about it, Angelina Jolie is so stupid she idolizes a woman that would consider her campaign against world poverty to be an abomination, and the rabidly anti-illegal immigration Malkin conveniently neglects to mention that Rand lied when applying for a visa to enter this country & married a rich American out of convenience to stay here.)
April 17th, 2009 at 10:20 am
i totally agree with you American patriot. everyone must call their rep and let them know that they will not stand for this in the Republic of Texas or anywhere in this Free country! Texas is full of grown men that will not bow down to some cop harrassing them for no apparent reason. i’m not the biggest dude in the world at about 6 ft 160lbs, but i will defend myself against any unconstitutional behavior. any man or woman who is harrassed by anyone for any reason should most definately remind the officer of the oath they took and if someone is detained for no reason, they should file kidnapping charges on everyone involved. i hope i know my fellow Texans as well as i think i do and WE WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS! PERIOD.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Its called a license. We, mostly all the adults, already have i.d that the police can ask to look at. At almost any time for almost any reason.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:15 am
rights…. ha…ha…ha… you HAVE no rights… when are you people going to get a clue… soon there will be so many regulations that you will have no way of not breaking a rule or regulation and become subject to our laugh laugh ‘criminal justice system’ where there IS no justice… a system set up so that no one can redeem themselves because the system gets even with people for crimes instead of rehabilitating or helping them…
April 17th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
This is a total disgrace. Welcome to the police state….. this is all about keeping us under control and in fear of speaking out or taking action…. and about making us into good little slaves while our controllers continue to scheme and think about ways to GMO our foods and chemtrail us into submission and sickness (among other things), tracking every move we make, keeping us dumbed down and slow and laying on a couch in front of the great brainwasher: the TV. It just takes a choice to be a part of the solution. Here’s a great video of my friend minderbinder at our houston tea party talking to our officers about martial law, the 2nd amendment and gun confiscation:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1rEp7U_p3k&feature=channel_page
Check it out. Thanks….
April 17th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
“pulling you over” as the texas rep Williams says is very different from being asked your name and ID as a person simply walking etc. He says in the article: “I don’t want police officers to be able to pull you over and ask that you identify yourself.” Hey stupid! – You have no right to keep your name to yourself if you are driving! It is a privilege, as opposed to the right of travelling in other fashions like cycling or horseback or walking. Those who get a drivers license AGREE to the notion that a cop can demand you give your license- to prove you have the privilege to drive. As for those simply walking/cycling etc. all they have to do (even if this law passes) is ask the cop detaining you “Am I suspected of breaking a law?” If the cop says no or doesn’t answer you should say I respectfully refuse to give you my name/ID because I have the right to my privacy and you have no probable cause to demand it”. Let them arrest you for breaking the unlawful law- you have to in order to then properly fight it as unconsitutional, not only by the Fourth Amendment in the Constitution of the united States of America (not a typo, the u is not capitalized in the original document nor in the Dec. of Ind.) but also the Texas Constitution should have an equivilent right enumerated in it.
justin_o_guy Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 2:44 am
You dont have a clue. Driving is a commercial word, remember, stagecoaches had drivers, trucks have drivers. Commercial operations require a license, but to travel, even in a motor vehicle, is no privilege, its a right. We should not be licensed, since a license is permission to do what would be illegal. I have a diploma that indicates my training, I dont need a license. Its a right that been turned into a privilege, & a fee charged to enjoy it.The thing is, weve been getting screwed like this for so long, no one knows its a screwing. Now, lets see how many slaves will argue for their chains instead of waking up.
matt Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 9:22 am
amen! stop asking them for permission. “they” are supposed to be “us,” remember. i don’t need anyones permission to move about freely on God’s green earth. that should be the cornerstone of liberty. the only law in the world should be, “be cool,” and the only time anyone should ever have to deal with police at all is when they cease to be cool. if i am not hurting anyone, i should have no fear of ever being fucked with, whether it’s in a car, walking down the street, or dancing a jig on top of the sears tower!
April 17th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
To the inforwars person censoring me:
Why are you threatened by my comments? You propose to try to warn people on your website, yet you feel the need to censor ME when I do the same things?????
Assholes.
April 17th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
So far, the only thing I’ve seen on these comment things, on EVERY news article, is nothing but a bunch of cowardly complaining, both by Alex Jones and others. I’d think twice if I were you and question the “facts” in these news articles. A lot of them are seriously “slanted” to a certain point of view. I am not for Obama at all. I am a decent person, questioning what is going on here.
April 17th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Anybody know the bill number???
April 17th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Hey cops—They’re killing you just the same as us. You ain’t nothing special to them. As long as you breathe air, you’re sucking in chemtrails too. And you’ll enforse the laws?? What part of you and your families are being dealt the same slow death as us don’t you understand. Pull you’re head out and open your eyes.
April 17th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
unless your a dirty roach like mexican with a squat cave man head. or a short fat ugly mexican whore plopping ugly beaners out of her whore hole.
matt Reply:
April 19th, 2009 at 9:12 am
how does this idiotic comment get on here and others get erased? who is mediating this web-site for God’s sake? remove this offensive horseshit before people think it is what we are about!!
April 17th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
I have said before, if they are not going to obey immigration laws then do not expect me to obey any other law that doesn’t hurt anyone.
Furthermore, a police officer has no authority over me, 4th amendment will be obeyed.
April 17th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
The RFID chip bill in Michigan is in the 30 day waiting period before it becomes law. It will have a RFID chip placed in the driver license that can be read from 30 ft. If your in Michigan call your state rep and tell him to vote no. We are running out of time. Rep Paul Opsommer has sponsored bills that would reaffirm the 10th amend., stop the RFID chip and REAL ID, and draw the line for the FED..
April 17th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Just think if we have micro engraved serial numbers and registration of ammunition then you can give the pig your ID several times. You want fries with that donut hole.
April 17th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Are there ANY amendments left for them to f*** with?!
April 17th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Hands up , against the wall and spread your legs !!! Look like I feel like stripping you down Lady !!!
April 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
yeah, up against the wall, then down on all four , get up and get back down on the ground , let me see you crawl now…. I want your freedom lady !!!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
DHS Goose Steps up to the Can and clicks his heal “Papers Please?!”. As a Kid I always wondered “How could people allow what hitler was doing?!”. Well Know we know …I want to Pass a Bill that Nomore Bills be passed.If you don’t like how free your Community is then fucking MOVE to one that is stricter! Let the rest of us live in peace! You bitch about Immigration and THIS is what Happens. They don’t fix the fence .Instead they Harass YOU!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
So we don’t show our papers when asked for them, under the probable cause defense. Same thing happens if you get pulled over while driving and you are asked if it’s Ok to check inside your vehicle. Tell them No, and that constitutes probable cause to search. Reason being? No ID or not allowing them to check out your vehicle, you must be hiding something. Have a seat in the back of their car while they check you out. And the cuffs are for your safety as well as theirs.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
But texas is fighting back against a tyrannical government.
Harpster Reply:
April 17th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
No with this one, the tyrannical government of Texas has just slipped off the mask over their faces. If it weren’t for Ron Paul and a few others Texas would be Mexas or Texico right now which ever name you prefer. The good guys are a small minority in this country
Fight or Flight Reply:
April 18th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
sad but true.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
What we will see, and have already seen in several places, are over-stressed citizens ready and willing to freak out on whichever authority figure crosses their path. Look at the string of cop kilings. Now the ‘authorities’ will no doubt use such things as an excuse to pass ever more restrictive laws which will do nothing but crank up the volume that much more– leave it to police to escalate a non-issue into a whacked out situation, and from there to violent confrontation.
Of course, the people who are behind the myriad laws stripping away our rights know exactly what they are doing. They obviously have no qualms about creating chaos and then benefitting from it. You, me and the cops are all just more meat for the grinder. The purpose of power is the systematic abuse of those without the power.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Papers Please! When bills being introduced are in direct violation of the constitution, that senator should be investigated for criminal ties and all that vote for it. This country better grow a big set of gonads soon or we will be living in fascist Italy. Another clown goes on the shit list that’s S.H.I.T (Senators Helping In Tyranny).
April 18th, 2009 at 9:06 am
read the read of the story….
its another one of Alexs ,tell half the story so it sounds really bad.
the article they are using has so many spelling errors.if this is where they get their facts then you are all fuked….
save the world kill a christian !!!
April 18th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Christians are murders !
They all deserve to die for killing in gods name!!
Alex is a Jesuit !
Cant wait for all of you bible thumpers to be put in camps and killed off ,maybe they will finish the job this time …unlike the jews who are still around causing death and destruction.
remember the jews killed Christ !
As we shall kill the christians!
April 18th, 2009 at 9:53 am
just remeber cops are people too and just doing there job.
and most people at heart are good!
im upset too
but we have to give people a chance
i am againast this bill
April 18th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
you better have a home or they will throw you in a FEMA camp.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
ooookay….lets just cool it on the nutty hate talk,oh my,will we ever rise above this?
April 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
It’s only a matter of time before we are all tagged with chips that store our information and record our every move. And don’t think you’ll be a patriot and ‘refuse’ to get chipped – research RFID Dust, nano-chips, and bio-chips then get back to me with your plan to block getting chipped.
1984 does not scratch the surface of what our reality will soon be…
April 19th, 2009 at 12:38 am
If I am not driving, which is a supposed privilege, according to law, then I am walking or riding in a vehicle driven by somebody else, or on a bicycle and need no proof of identityand I will not profer such identification.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:06 am
we don’t need to learn some good ways around this assanine law, we need to make sure it doesn’t happen, or, if it does happen we need to resist and break this law at every corner. you policemen out there who would dare enforce this piece of shit law should be flayed like the brownshirts you are.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:27 am
How about this for these xenophobic control freak society. We will all wear name tags with pictures and have all of our information tatooed on our foreheads. Also we will all be required to wear the state sponsored reflective orange jump suit. This is so we don’t wander off the work plantation into the woods. Also we will all live in FEMA trailers at our designated living area don’t be out after curfew. Oh what a future we will have. Don’t forget you get an extra 10 by 10 square feet if your marriage is “approved” and if you wait 10 years they will allow you to have a child. WHOOPY. Of course you will have to apply for a license to conceive. Oh as long as the xenophobic control freak remains rich and their power base is intact all is well in the world. Oh how I live to serve the exalted devine ones. I will throw myself at their feet and beg to exist in the same world they have created for such a lowly person like myself……or
April 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I’M SHOCKED THAT DAN PATRICK WOULD SPONSOR SUCH A BILL. DAN, YOU’RE BECOMING AS DELUSIONAL AND AS POWER HUNGRY AS THE NEW WORLD ORDER CROWD…BACK UP AND READ THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
April 19th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Will this become law in the new country called The Republic Of Texas? LOL!
April 19th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Next thing the police will want to know the size of your dick so, they can arrest you if it’s bigger than theirs!
You want to see my ID papers, let me wipe my ass and I’ll give you those papers….FU to the Government and FU to all that support this type of bullshit!
April 20th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
The New World Order begins!!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Well need your name, address, and phone #. If your tyranny isn’t delivered in less than 30 minutes, it’s free.
We do not accept Checks, or balances. Right hand ID chips only*, or handicap head chips.
WE ARE WATCHING YOU for your safety and conveniance.