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Bill Seeks To Withhold Highway Funds To States Who Don’t Comply With Real ID
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Harold Gray
JustGetThere
February 23, 2009
A new amendment has been introduced that would coerce states to transform their drivers licenses into national ID cards or loose highway funding from the government. The Real ID Act, signed by former President George Bush in 2005, would create a nationwide database interlinked with every DMV across the country. Once implemented, it would prevent any citizen to enter any federal building, airport, open a bank account or any other action that is federally regulated. The bill was passed in a questionable manner, secretly tacked on to a must-pass appropriations bill funding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Without any congressional debate, the passage of this bill created massive public backlash which lead to several internet campaigns seeking to repeal the act.
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Currently, 21 states oppose the Real ID federal mandate that would require states to spend billions collectively, in order to fulfill all the requirements. The vehement opposition by the states has forced the government plan to be pushed back to 2010. Now that many states are in the midst of a revenue downturn, a new Real ID amendment, H.R. 140, has been introduced. Sponsored by Congressman Elton Gallegly from California, the amendment seeks to do the following:
To withhold certain highway funds if a State does not comply with certain requirements in issuing a driver’s license or identification card, and for other purposes.
(1) CALENDAR YEAR 2010- For calendar year 2010, 2 percent.
(2) CALENDAR YEAR 2011- For calendar year 2011, 4 percent.
(3) CALENDAR YEAR 2012- For calendar year 2012, 6 percent.
(4) CALENDAR YEAR 2013 AND EACH CALENDAR YEAR THEREAFTER- For calendar year 2013 and in each calendar year thereafter, 8 percent.
Increasing legislative actions by federal government to exert control over states has kick started a fast growing movement of states claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment. Well over 21 states have introduced legislation asserting their sovereignty, just recently Minnesota and Texas followed suit.
The people and states make up this union, and should have the final say about this personal database being created and stored on the pretense to make us safe. The idea of a national database which includes all of our personal data that could be readily accessed and abused by one bad apple in the government, is not a representation of the freedom that our founders had in mind when forming this great nation under our beloved Constitution.
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February 23rd, 2009 at 4:33 pm
STOP filing and paying federal income tax, NOW!!
August Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Have not paid or filed for 18 years; life is good.
CLICK HERE FOR NEW WORLD ORDER SONG!! Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
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– NEW WORLD ORDER SONG — CLICK ON MY NAME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT ——
PEOPLE WHAT EVER YOU DO!!
DO NOT GET THAT F**KING ID CARD!
THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PULL THAT S**T OFF OVER HERE IN THE UK FOR A LONG TIME!
BUT WE WILL NEVER HAVE IT BECAUSE EVERYONE , EVEN THE SHEEPLE KNOW ITS A LOAD OF BO**OCKS
STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS, MAKE PREPERATIONS NOW! AT LEAST GET IN YOUR MIND THE BASIC PLAN!
Line in the sand Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:54 am
MUST WATCH THE REAL (BUBBA EFFECT)-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8La5xLYo2-s
joe lock Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
taxes are for slaves in training
John Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
This link WILL give anyone the knowledge who does not want to pay the voluntary federal income tax and do it legally. This is not a “conspiracy theory” rather it is actual law. With a few months of study from this document ANYONE can legally stop paying taxes.
And to answer Al’s question, you can sue them and your bank. The IRS, your employer, or your bank has no AUTHORITY to withdraw your money without your consent.
crazzyyyjoe Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Where’s the link??? Thank’s
This link WILL give anyone the knowledge
David Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:46 am
John,
Where is the link.
This sounds very interesting, and I’d love to stop paying the Unconstitutional Federal Taxes, but I’d also like to stay out of jail. If you truly know a way to legally not pay, please share.
Thanks.
theonewho Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:29 pm
How do you not file and get for 18 years and get away with it?
Jackson Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Because there is NO law requiring anyone to pay taxes and the IRS knows it. Seriously, you need to watch America: Freedom To Fascism. That documentary and a little research will provide all the answers you require regarding this important issue. Don’t wait for states declaring sovereignty to save you, because the states are all bankrupt and the Tenth Amendment will not save anyone from total insolvency. Save your money and stop paying taxes and rendering yourself into enslavement. Only non-compliance has any chance of successfully taking back our republic, not states rights, if you can call it that, considering what has already been done to the Constitution throughout the 20th century. And don’t ask your employer to stop withholding because they have all been duped into believing they have to withhold and are not about to risk their business to stop the practice. That’s just an example of the power of Big Government, not easily stopped, if at all, considering the federal government does not run anything but instead a parallel shadow government actually runs the show.
Scott Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I have never filed taxes a day in my life. My Grandfather informed me over 25 years ago that the federal income tax was a fraud and that I should never pay it. I have worked for myself since I was able to work just because I knew if I worked for someone else they would agree with the Government and probably not keep me around long.
GoonSquad Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Have you idiots ever actually read the Constitution, or do you just believe what other idiots tell you?
This is the exact wording of the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which was ratified on Feb. 3, 1913:
“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”
Therefore, it is LAW that you must pay federal income tax. And make no mistake, if you don’t pay your taxes, the IRS will find you and take you down. If you don’t want to pay taxes, then stop driving on interstate highways, stop sending your kids to public school, stop eating produce grown in the U.S., and don’t expect the U.S. to protect your dumbasses when North Korea puts a missile up your asses. And while you’re at it, get the fuck out of my country, because most of us pay our fair share. You’re a burden to the rest of us…
Big C Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
First of all the interstates are maintained by the gas tax , the schools are funded by the local property taxes in most cases and receive revenue from the states lottery’s , our defense is funded by corporate taxes , nobody in there right mind likes to eat the gmo produce anyways and lastly the unconstitutional tax on our ” labor ” goes to pay down the national debt in which there is only enough to just pay on the interest .
So you my friend are definitely a goon !
al Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
how can you prevent your employer from automatically deducting the federal income tax from your paycheck?
Knowledge Is Power Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
by law they have to deducte it… Someone correct me if I am wrong. But you can easily clam a real high number thats what I am going to do. normally I claim 1. Now I will claim 10+ whatever is the highest number I can claim.
These mother fuckers are sick
NO FUCKING law should be passed tacked onto a bill that congress can’t see… I mean my fucking god!!!!! Does it get any more sneaky and fucked up than that. Uhhh i really hate these fucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHH
Bad Slave Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Prior to 2005, your employer was required to send your W-4 to the IRS if you claimed 10 more allowances. That is no longer the case. In fact, you can provide your employer with a W-4 stating that you are exempt or you can claim as many allowances as you feel necessary “depending on your tax situation.” Your employer is not required to notify the IRS, however, if the IRS sends a letter to your employer requesting a copy, the employer must comply.
From what I understand, the IRS now plans to rely upon W-2 statements you file the previous year. Somehow if they think something is out of whack (I’m not quite sure how) they will obtain a copy of your W-4 from your employer. If they determine that you are claiming too many allowances, then they instruct your employer the amount that should be withheld. Unless you contest this action by the IRS, your employer must follow their instructions.
I was actually looking online at this exact subject today. Depending on what sort of tax credits and write-offs you anticipate having at year end, you are entitled to adjust your withholding for the anticipated set-off. It is not unusual for someone to claim 20-30+ allowances, according to one accountant I read about online who advises a number of his clients to do just that. I’m not positive about this, but I think 1 allowance is equivalent to $3,400.
The IRS claimed that they no longer require employers to report a W-4 with 10 or more allowances because it was an “unnecessary burden on employers.” Yeah, right. I will tell you what it’s about. Executives looking to avoid taxes on their bonuses and stock options will claim thousands of exemptions in conjunction with some sort of tax shelter in order to dodge taxes. The problem was, they were getting caught because their employer was required to report the W-4. Well, they fixed that!
If Lindsey Williams is right that our economy will completely collapse by next summer after hyperinflation, doesn’t it make sense to get all the money you can now and invest it in the three B’s (beans, bullion, and bullets)? I don’t think I would have trouble paying a tax bill if necessary after we start carrying rolls of 100 and 1000 bills for train fare. If you think about it, if the dollar completely collapses and the federal government is bankrupt, do you really think anyone is going to show up for work at the IRS?
With regards to the above article, the congress if overlooking one little detail. The highway funds the federal government provides to the states, comes from the states to begin with! We just won’t send it in anymore. D’oh!
Gary Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Yes, forcing your employer to be a tax collector is freedom. Forcing your employer to do the dirty work for the IRS is liberty. Forcing your employer to rob you, shake you down, garnish your wages – it’s all freedom and liberty.
RJB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Job providers are NOT REQUIRED to withhold income taxes from you, UNLESS, the worker provides them with a signed IRS Form W-4, “Voluntary Withholding Agreement”. Providing the form is 100% VOLUNTARY. In fact the section of the tax code that governs the form W-4 is entitled “Voluntary Withholding Agreements”. If you do not wish taxes to be withheld, then simply DO NOT provide your employer with a Form W-4 and nor give an exemption certificate with the maximum number of exemptions, which is 9, to stay under the reporting requirements, which more than half of all employers never report anyway. If you do not in fact have 9 exemptions, then saying you do is illegal.
It is an indisputable legal FACT that the W-4 form is VOLUNTARY, and can only be initiated by the employee, NOT the employer, so do not provide one if you do not want withholding, and do not provide an exemption certificate, especially with an inflated number of exemptions, as doing so would be ILLEGAL.
The law is actually on your side. Where the real problem comes in is that most employers are operating under the delusion that it is THEY who can DEMAND that you fill out and provide a W-4 and an exemption certificate, as aconditin of employment, when in fact the law says it it is YOU, and only YOU, who can initiate and provide it. The law only requires the employer to REQUEST it, and a Social Security Number. A REQUEST is exactly that, and nowhere does it say the employer can DEMAND anything as a condition of employment, even though most will and do. Doing so is in fact ILLEGAL. But most employers are SO afraid of the IRS that they do not care at all what the law says, even if you show it to them. Since IRS routinely LIES and tells them over the phone that it is an absolute requirement, they would rather just do as IRS says, and avoid the risk and expense of being audited, than to obey the clear instructions of the law that you put in front of them. TO MOST EMPLOYERS AND TO THE IRS THE LAW DOES NOT MATTER, and until you can convince an employer that it is the LAW that matters, not some hack at the IRS making unofficial statements over the phone, you are shit out of luck.
No law requires you to provide a Social Security Number either, even if you DO provide the job provider with a Form W-4. You are completely within your rights to leave the SSN section BLANK. Do NOT follow the instructions and place any number there. LEAVE IT BLANK. Contrary to popular belief, there is not even any fine for leaving it blank. The IRS regards the refusal of the worker to provide a SSN as “Reasonable cause” for a waiver of the fine, and will not fine the employer for your refusal. Even if they did levy a fine, it is only $50 per year. You can agree to simply pay your employer the damned $50 fine if IRS ever levies one. IRS even has an official pamphlet that you can download that tells employers EXACTLY what they should do when an employee refuses to provide a Social Security number. It does NOT say that the job provider should refuse to hire of fire a non-enumerated worker. It even says that the employer should NOT terminate an employee for refusing to provide one. So much for the idea that Americans cannot work without the SSN. It is simply NOT TRUE, and even IRS says so in their own pamphlets!
So there you have it. Even the IRS agrees that an American can work without a Social Security Number, and that employers are within their rights to hire ANY American Citizen, with or without the SSN. They do not agree because they want to, but because they HAVE to, because it would be unconstitutional if they didn’t. But this does not stop them from UNOFFICIALLY lying to employers over the phone, when there is no record of the call, and telling them they MUST obtain the number or they cannot hire the individual.
Toecutter Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:21 am
RJB Your spot on friend but the W-4 is a contract. This is deception and fraud, by signing it you are saying that you are corporate US citizen.
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
So when I need to eat and need a job and get hired for $6 an hr. AFTER F’n passing a drug test and then, tell my new employer I’ll NOT be signing that!!!! I’ll end up hungry and still unemployed!!! “An empty stomach knows NO loyalty!!!” Benedict Arnold. “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
Jackson Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Your correct, you can claim a higher number to avoid deductions.
joe lock Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
work off the books
living0history Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:24 pm
contract employees don’t have taxes witheld from paychecks.. I work for the state as an archivist, but, sadly do pay my taxes because I live in a low-population state and I think they’d find me…
TheGhost Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
how about you just grow a pair and not be such a pussy.. i live in new mexico, little over a million people in the whole state.. and i still told the irs to fuck the fuck off cuz i said so bitches
LTC Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:23 am
Damn Straight,
Screw them if they find you, income tax is voluntary!
martin Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Write and ask the taxman to show you the law that states you must pay income tax.. there is no law, refuse to pay any until they prove it exists, some states in the USA has lost cases like this in a court, check out thinkfree.ca on google Robert menards site the demockery video, and bursting bubbles of govmnt deception.
KDIZZLL Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 6:27 am
WHAT ABOUT THE 16TH AMMENDMENT???
RJB Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that the 16th Amendment creates no new power of taxation. It simply “kept income taxes in the category of indirect taxes, to which they inherently belong”
Direct taxes are taxes that are on the person and his property. They are unavoidable, in that they cannot be shifted, as a sales tax can be shifted to the purchaser, even though it is the seller that is liable for the tax.
Indirect taxes come in three flavors – duties, imposts, and excises. The income tax is an excise tax. Excise taxes are taxes on the exercise of a PRIVILEGE. Is it a PRIVILEGE for an American Citizen to work for a living? Or, is it his RIGHT? Since life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness would be IMPOSSIBLE for most people if someone else could prevent them from working for a living, working for a living is indeed a RIGHT, which, if taxed, would be destroyed, and converted into a privilege, which the Supreme Court has also declared to be an unconstitutional act.
So, if the income tax does not apply to the free exercise of the right of the Citizen to work for a living, then what income is being taxed?
The answer is that the income being taxed is not the earnings of an individual worker, but CORPORATE INCOME, because corporations do not have rights, only PRIVILEGES. What is being taxed is not the income itself, per se, but the ACTIVITY, or PRIVILEGE which generates it. Since corporations are creatures of the state, everything they do, including generating profits, is a PRIVILEGE, and so IS taxable as an EXCISE.
The Sixteenth Amendment gave no new power of taxation. So, if the government could not tax individual earnings before the 16th Amendment, they did not gain the power to do so after the 16th Amendment. The income tax was never meant to apply to the earnings of the average working American. It was meant to apply to corporate profits, including cash dividends payed to shareholders. Dividends payed out in the form of additional shares of stock have been ruled NOT to be “income”, because the capital is not “severed for separate use”, but remains in the company.
Bob Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Go to http://losthorizons.com, click on “Start with this short film” look around the site, including the forum. Buy his book, it’s fascinating, and he needs the money, the IRS is persecuting him now.
People, we have to have a new Declaration of Rights and Liberties, where we express EXACTLY what rights we demand to have, in both positive and negative language.
For instance, we must demand the right to NOT be bio metrically tracked by a central government. We must demand the right to NOT have our own money used against us, or withheld from us for not going along with a tyrannical central government.
And further we must specify that it is a CRIME to even propose a law which violates these rights.
The Constitution is rigged in favor of tyranny folks. A tyrant can propose illegal law, after illegal law, and we fight them off, and fight them off, maybe 100 times, then we lose once, and we’ve lost FOREVER!
And then we may have to kill or threaten to kill to get our rights back? That system stinks.
Just the facts Mame Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 12:41 am
No matter what Declaration you have, no matter how air tight you make it. They will always find away around it, they will always do so in secret.
To quote a bible saying if I’m correct “The lawyer is the lawless one”
today this is forever true, these people that we elect are not there for the people but for themselves because they have ’small appendages’.
Those that seek to control people live in fear themselves and are usually more fearful than most, they think controlling people is power, but deceive themselves.
I believe that the declaration of independence was created for the people, to make the people vigilant, but we have become slothful and bury our heads in the sand and trust these criminals will look after us. So we have deceived ourselves to believe a lie. These evil men/women try to create a ‘new world order’ out of the chaos that they create. It will only be a crisis when it effects people into action and hopefully then people will rise because of people like us that stand for the truth and hopefully people will then see the lie that they have believed and will then stand, then these beasts that brought us chaos to them that sowed chaos so they shall reap chaos upon themselves and we will have the victory.
LTC Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:28 am
Finally, someone who understand the Constitution was written for elites and not for the people. The politicians are lawyers, the forefathers were lawyers, they all use sophistry and deceit to rob us blind.
Wake up and stop worshiping flags and bogus documents. The Constitution is ambiguous, if it wasn’t we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place. A free people can not be forced to pay “taxes” (extortion) and still call themselves free. It is armed robbery, nothing more and nothing less.
Our “Forefathers” were Illuminati scum and shouldn’t be respected or honored in any way, shape or form.
ew keane Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 3:06 am
im starting to think that this point of veiw may have merit. these men worship at the alter of pure human reason, AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS! (Behold, the lawyer, an honest man.)
Jeremy Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
The founding fathers fought the same international bankers that we are fighting. What version of history are you reading? The conspiracy blog version? Watch “The Money Masters” it has the actual writtings of the fathers and documentation of there battle with the international bankers.
happystab Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
The funny thing is you don’t have to pay federal income taxes. The IRS is a private company and has been for a while. It’s not supposed to be, but it is. But because it is a private company, you must have a contract in order to be liable to pay them anything. To every business owner: Don’t Pay Federal Taxes!!!!
Anti-Bobby Brown Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
from wikipedia:
“The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is the United States federal government agency that collects taxes and enforces the internal revenue laws. It is an agency within the U.S. Dept of the treasury responsible for interpretation and application of Federal tax law.[1] The official U.S. Treasury regulations provide (in part):
The Internal Revenue Service is a bureau of the Department of the Treasury under the immediate direction of the Commissioner of Internal Revenue. The Commissioner has general superintendence of the assessment and collection of all taxes imposed by any law providing internal revenue. The Internal Revenue Service is the agency by which these functions are performed.”
– 26 C.F.R. section 601.101(a).
Bob Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Question: If not an organization within the U.S. Department of the Treasury, then what exactly is the IRS?
Answer: The IRS appears to be a collection agency working for foreign banks and operating out of Puerto Rico under color of the Federal Alcohol Administration (“FAA”). But the FAA was promptly declared unconstitutional inside the 50 States by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of U.S. v. Constantine, 296 U.S. 287 (1935), because Prohibition had already been repealed.
In 1998, the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit identified a second “Secretary of the Treasury” as a man by the name of Manual Díaz-Saldaña. See the definitions of “Secretary” and “Secretary or his delegate” at 27 CFR 26.11 (formerly 27 CFR 250.11), and the published decision in Used Tire International, Inc. v. Manual Díaz-Saldaña, court docket number 97-2348, September 11, 1998. Both definitions mention Puerto Rico. When all the evidence is examined objectively, IRS appears to be a money laundry, extortion racket, and conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering activity, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1951 and 1961 et seq. (“RICO”).
Think of Puerto RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act); in other words, it is an organized crime syndicate operating under false and fraudulent pretenses. See also the Sherman Act and the Lanham Act.
LTC Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:31 am
The Unites States of America is a Corporation, which resides in Washington D.C., The Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and one more location I keep forgetting the name of, I think some other little chain of islands.
Anyone living outside the United States as defined in title 26 (Tax Code) is exempt from taxes, period.
ew keane Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 3:12 am
who are the principal stock holders of this corporation, and what is the public benefit of this corporation. is the letter of intent the declaration of independence? who votes for the corporate officers and proxies? who can fire the chaiman of the board? and what of the corporations legal department? AND JUST WHAT IS ALL THIS CORRUPION OF BLOOD STUFF ALL ABOUT? TO LET ARISTOCRATS TAKE OVER ?
WakeupFellas Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
They have been trying to get this through for awhile now. Several states are against it, however pulling the federal funding card is lame. It never ceases to amaze me how low these illuminati creeps will go. FREE your mind –www.ohchange.com
masterkyiron Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
good idea!and all there threats they make ,the government needs to go to fema with the baby spraying elite.we will control fema and only 2 camps will stay open for them build one on alcatraz for the elite.
masterkyiron Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
i heard this will spare us from a micro chip implant.i think we are more then just a number ,not to them though.
masterkyiron Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 pm
ya ,im not getting no chip ,i think your right there trying to condition the states first a card then a chip.its sad!
Eric Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I agree, we should stop paying income tax, but in order to do so, you will have to get rid of your social and your driver license.
Your social and your driver license has your name spelled all in CAPS, legally this makes you a corporation, and taxable as a corporation. If you get rid of your I.D cards that make your corporations, you will be able to win in court.
If you need legal help, or are interested in more information on fighting for your freedom from the state, please go to EricCastleman.blogspot.com or contact Luis Ewing in Washington state.
LTC Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:39 am
All that reasoning is bullshit, regardless if the information is true. The 13th amendment states that there can be no involuntary servitude within the U.S., therefore you can just sight the 13th amendment and they cannot do anything about it.
Now let’s get real for a minute…Filing papers and such is a waste of time. They do not follow the laws, not even the ones they wrote themselves. So what makes you think they’ll leave you alone once you’ve “invoked your sovereignty”. They may not have the authority but they have the power to force us to do what ever they want.
An example,
Driving is defined as using a motor vehicle for commerce. What we as citizens do isn’t driving, it’s properly called traveling. Registering your vehicle with the MVA supposedly gives them claim over your vehicle and you. Same goes when you get a license.
Many have tried to get their own plates and rive without a license but in the end the State governments will still lock you up and steal your vehicle. Regardless if you’re on the right side of the laws, regardless if both you and I, and the state know you are right. They are criminals and criminals don’t respect the rule of law.
zeke Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 pm
i have been working full time for 2 years now. I have not paid one cent of city tax, income tax, withholding tax(actually not income tax contrary to popular belief, just research it), and social security tax. i get 100% from my earnings. becuz we all know taking anything from one’s earnings is unconstitutional. just follow the tips by reading the book The Federal Mafia 2003 Edition. you can download it free fro http://www.paynoincometax.com. we the people always win!
doasthywilt Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:07 am
The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was voted on buy only THREE bribed congersmen!
No one else got to vote.
SCAM!!!
watch this dated video…
http://video.google.com/videop.....0256183936
GoonSquad Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Have you idiots ever actually read the Constitution, or do you just believe what other idiots tell you?
This is the exact wording of the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution, which was ratified on Feb. 3, 1913:
“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”
Therefore, it is LAW that you must pay federal income tax. And make no mistake, if you don’t pay your taxes, the IRS will find you and take you down. If you don’t want to pay taxes, then stop driving on interstate highways, stop sending your kids to public school, stop eating produce grown in the U.S., and don’t expect the U.S. to protect your dumbasses when North Korea puts a missile up your asses. And while you’re at it, get the fuck out of my country, because most of us pay our fair share. You’re a burden to the rest of us.
RJB Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Where do I even begin with you!
I do not pay any income tax, cannot remember when I lat filed a return, and will NEVER do so. The IRS has NEVER darkened my doorstep, and they know EXACTLY who I am and where they can find me.
The 16th Amendment does not grant the government infinite and limitless power of taxation. To do so would strip away every right We The People have, because it would make anything and everything taxable, up to and including 100%. What do you call it when someone is entitled to take 100% of your earnings and property? Either you are a prisoner, a slave, or both, but you are certainly NOT a free man living in a condition of liberty. The U.S. Supreme Court has said, repeatedly, the “the 16th Amendment gave the government no new power of taxation”. If they could not legally tax something before the 16th Amendment, then they cannot legally tax the same thing after. Before the 16th Amendment, an earlier income tax was struck down as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
So lets ASSUME, under the above reasoning, that the 16th Amendment does NOT give the government such unlimited power.
As for other taxes, most are perfectly reasonable, and legal.
Roads are paid for by vehicle licensing and registration fees, and fuel taxes.
Schools, emergency services, and the like are paid for by state and local taxes.
So, how is it that if one does not pay a FEDERAL tax they are not LIABLE for, on corporate income they did not earn, are they not entitled to the benefits of all the other things they DID pay taxes to fund?
The presidential commission called the Grace Commission, working directly for Ronald Reagan, found that all the federal income and Social Security taxes collected pay for is interest on the national debt, which is money borrowed from international bankers who have nothing but hot air to loan us in the first place. It is money paid in exchange for NOTHING.
How can you purport to deny any American Citizen his RIGHT to receive the benefits of all the other taxes he does pay, just because he refuses to pay one or two taxes, out of hundreds, that happen to be verifiable FRAUDS?
Such faulty reasoning is tyrannical, and unconscionable.
GoonSquad Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
The 16th Amendment gives Congress the power to tax incomes…period. Read the wording. Does it give unlimited power to tax? No. But it gives them partial power. No one is asking you to pay 100% of your earnings and property to the U.S. government.
Have you ever researched where our income tax dollars go? 4.4 cents out of every federal income tax dollar go towards public education. 1.5 cents out of every federal tax dollar go towards transportation, commerce, and agriculture. And 42.2 cents of every dollar goes to military spending.
Therefore, if you currently enjoy the benefits of the things that MY TAX DOLLARS pay for, please stop immediately.
GoonSquad Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
As a matter of fact, those of you deadbeats that don’t pay federal income tax…I put you on the same level as illegal immigrants. You enjoy the BENEFITS of those PRIVILEGES that my tax dollars pay for, but you give nothing in return. I give the finger to you all.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Please tell me we will tear down the government before this goes into action?
REAL ID = 1984
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Watch out for ‘DU’ ammunition. Who knows what’s sold to you. Would actually be a real ’soft kill weapon’. These people have sick humor. DU ammunition is a genius way to kill all opposition.
Wolfman_Jack Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
DU ammo is only truly harmful if it is burning. Besides, the odds of a civilian being able to get hold of DU ammo is practically nil. It may be radioactive, but you are never going to find it in your local ammo shop.
“Regular low-caliber bullets are made of compacted hardened lead.3 Armor piercing rounds (usually of higher caliber) are made out of steel. Incendiary and high explosive rounds (for even higher caliber rounds) are made with chemical explosive compounds.3 DU is merely a recent but simple advancement made in high caliber ammunition. What is depleted uranium ammunition? Basically DU + conventional ammunition = DU ammunition. DU weapons can be installed in conventional ammunition in a variety of ways. However the common methods are the following: you can either coat the ammo in DU or you can make conventional ammo with a DU core. 9,10 DU and tungsten ammunition research was being conducted as early as the 1970s as a means of generating conventional effective armor piercing rounds. 14d Tungsten is generally very expensive, has a higher melting point, and doesn’t cut armor as well as DU. Depleted uranium is cheap, abundant, and even provided free to arms manufacturers. DU rounds can be classified in many different types of ammunition. DU is employed in tank rounds (usually as a kinetic dart/projectile, high-explosive device, or smart bombs)1, heavy machine guns (as used by US Bradley Fighting Vehicles), gatling guns (as used by US Apache helicopters, A-10 Warthogs, Harrier jets, and other anti-personnel aircraft), artillery (e.g. Howitzers and mortar shells), and probably in ultra-high caliber sniper rifles.”
citation: http://cseserv.engr.scu.edu/St.....hPaper.htm
LTC Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:43 am
Tungsten works just as well, if not better, than depleted U. And it is safe compared to DU. They just need a way to get rid of radioactive waste, so why not use it instead of tungsten? What a degenerate and twisted logic these people have.
Rhetorical question, by the way. They are sick sons of bitches.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I’m waiting for the economic hit men to start showing up and if they can’t make it work I don’t think we have to imagine what the next step will be. God help us all.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
i have a question for all infowarriors:
what % of the american population approve of being chipped with and RFID?
i am just curious as to how many stupid sheeple there are in the USA. i have drawn two lines in the sand. 1) take my guns and i will declare war on the feds/state and 2) make it a requirement to have an RFID implant and i will declare war on the feds/state
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm
I’ll give you a free ride to the hospital when they put a bullet in your ass.. Buttmunch.. Again, save the beer muscle talk for the hags at your corner tavern.. You’re not impressing anybody here with your .22 rifle and your 75 rim fire bullets left over from 1972 which is probably the last time you chambered a round.
GrandpappyB Fan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Ummm…you make me hot when you talk like that..
How about a ride to your place?
Gary Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I agree that talking big is of little use, but make no mistake: confiscating guns in America will be a bloodbath. There will be thousands of deaths. I know, I know, the elites want death – they worship it. But America is not like the UK and Australia. There are more guns per person now than at any time in America’s history. Heck, I’ve got bunches.
Right now I don’t know if I could name off every gun I have, because they’re not all in my possession. I’ve owned guns for 30+ years, so I have quite a collection. I will arm my neighbors. I will arm anyone willing to fight. That’s what guns are for. For defense against enemies foreign and domestic. For defense against tyrants.
I realize that a lot of city dwellers didn’t grow up around guns. You have no idea how the average hick thinks. There’s three things you’ll never take from me alive: My family, my dogs, my guns. I will die in their defense. Die. I’ve always been a peaceful man. I follow God’s natural law, and his scriptural law. But I harbor the fire of my forefathers. I will burn for liberty. I will burn in defense of my home and property. I will die before I submit to unwarranted search and seizure of my home.
So far it has not come to pass. But I foresee the day coming. I’m prayed up and right with the Lord. No one can pluck me from the hand of God Almighty. My salvation is secure. I have nothing left but to live honestly and justly among my fellows, right up to the day I die.
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Gary , I’m Right There With Ya Bro ,If not in the flesh I’m with ya in the spirit . There is more of us than there is of “THEM”.The time is coming very fast and those of us that are ready will soon find ourselves at the front of the fight that is sure to come .Stand strong and keep the faith Brother .
TheGhost Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
i do believe the .223 is standard issue to the military and newly federalized police.. miraculously my firearm also shoots .223 rounds, what a coincidence..
Griz Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Actually, you’re mostly right. .223 Remington is a commercial version of the 5.56 x 45mm NATO round. I only bring this up because of all the new firearms owners around. You can fire .223 in a 5.56 x 45mm chambered weapon, I believe. But, you can have a rifle designated .223 Remington that will NOT safely fire the military rounds. It’s a headspace issue. Some guns will blow up if they are fed the military rounds in an improper chamber. Check the manufacturer’s manual for the weapon or have a competent gunsmith check it out for you. If you wind up with a rifle that is only .223 Remington capable, a gunsmith with a chamber reamer will fix the problem for you for a fee. I know this because I recently purchased a Ruger Mini-14 in LEO dress. The manual states that serial numbers above a specific number, mine fortunately included, will fire both safely. Just wanted to point this out for any new or future owners, since it’s a safety issue.
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Griz, It’s good that you brought that to every ones attention .Not everybody is aware of that fact .Kudos to you and keep em coming .
living0history Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
I think that the % of the population who would take the RFID chip is really really low , like 2%, but if the mainstream media told them they needed it for their safety against terrorists (of course, not the real terrorists) I bet like 90% would want it!! Ignore the people who have nothing better to do than put others down, and don’t let them pull you down to their level!
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
GREAT VIDEO!
Something to tell the world!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT8cg62iKyg
Fools at Large Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Listen the Jewish gov’t is the problem as well as the Americans, thats all and i don’t think enough Jews believe it or the people in the US,
Obama, Clinton network with the Bushs, Cheneys will rewrite the CONSTITUTION,
The words on the dollar says In We God Trust
It will now say In My Fuher We Trust
I just bought some Black Boots with a cool emblem on them, Thoses heals will kick high.
John Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Understand that Allah and God are not the same.
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Let’s all hope when they (DC) try to twist state’s arms, the states all say “FUCK YOU”!!!!! and just secceed. That might be the only way to remain free, or reasonably so.
Knowledge Is Power Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
As many of the truthers as possible should move to texas. Take over one state at a time what yall think?
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:56 pm
That would be an awesome idea!! If Texas werent such a shit hole filled with dumbasses.. Too many trailer parks.. They attract tornados..
GrandpappyB Fan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Kiss and Hug to good grandpappy B…Luv ya brother
living0history Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
what’s wrong with trailer parks? is there a mandatory low iq
living0history Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
…requirement to live in one? cause if so, then you should move there!!
Alan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Thank GOD! I was concerned for a second that statement would attract douche bags like gland masterb. We have enough snot nose morons here without inviting more.
Obviously, he’s happy in michigan, and WE have Texas already!
GrandIllusionC Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
i’m thinking GrandMasterB didn’t get any luvin from his boyfriend today,
LOL…
Renee Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
We did in New Hampshire. It’s called the Nh free staters. Start a chapter in every state. Youtube: Dan Itse with Glen Beck or Dan itse with Alex Jones.
JewAgainstZionism Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
That seems to be coming down the turnpike.
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
It’s interesting that this national I.D. doesn’t seem to effect illegal immigrant employment at a time when American citizens will need jobs real bad. They want to watch the citizens, while doing everything they can to flood this country with illegals. In a time of economic collapse, American citizens will gladly work for less. Still, they want to flood this country with unnecessary immigration. This only goes to prove that all this massive immigration has everything to do with destroying the traditional American Christian culture stemming from Europe. This has been their fascination all along. They will be giving the immigrants good jobs while young Americans get drafted into the civilian security force, which will also be used to attack traditional Americans and their values. Once you go to boot camp, you are government property and they can send you overseas to the World War 3 that they are trying to create. While young Americans are enslaved, the illegals will be getting the jobs. This is your government; but soon, if people don’t fight back in droves, you will become the property of your government. I am the Street Professor, and I have spoken!
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Just melt all the cards down to make asplalt now thats a green movement.
FEDs Can Blow Me Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
DO NOT ACCEPT ID CARD. Banks and such will loss alot of business which is what we want.
Fuck credit. If you cant afford to buy it cash. You can’t afford it.
If you have credit cards. and bad credit like myself. Max it out buying silver. Then dont pay any of the balance. like I said fuck credit. Its the machine that feeds these scum buckets.
Silver will double in the next 2 years. Plus if hyper inflation hits like it probably will. It will hold value against it. So maybe be worth 10x what it is now. Promise
consumer lending was down 7 billion. FED estimate it was going to be down 500 million HAHAHA fucks lets keep kicking em where it hurts. lets make it down 7 trillion in lending.
Lets make it so these scum buckets can’t ever be seen walking in the street again without getting laid out!!!!!
FUCK THE FEDs dont borrow money dont pay taxes AND stop shopping at wallmart and big chain stores. Go to the smaller ones.
Jabberwocky Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Couldn’t agree more, I’m 25 years old and I do not have a credit card. I could never really grasp the concept as a teenager, it all just seemed really stupid to pay for something with money you didnt really have and it’s followed me since.
ew keane Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 3:26 am
they suckered alot of us by making us working guys think that our paychecks would get bigger and bigger every year, and that we could get wealth now and ride the elevator of pay raises in style. didnt work so good for me, im totaly broke today. no where now but up!
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Well Said !!!
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
This is getting serious folks. Take up arms…NOW!!!!
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
That’s too stupid to even post an insulting reply to.
GrandpappyB Fan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Again..Kiss and a Hug to ya Grandmother B
…you keep up your pace and you will have yourself sex in no time..wink wink
living0history Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
lol! I think your goodwill will sink in soon
Alan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Don’t be so hard on yourself! It doesn’t matter how stupid you are, as long as you can type and come up with a ridiculous name like Gland Masterb, you can voice your insignificant gibberish here!
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
“You say you want a revolution….well you know, we all want to change the world.”
Alan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I’ll revolt today for freedom tomorrow!
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
This is exactly what I was talking about the other day. The feds will hold shit over the staes head and use blackmail and extortion to get the staes to do exactly what they’re told to do.
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Well you might call this extortion since the money they would withhold is the taxpayer citizen’s money to begin with. And these government folks in Washington sure aren’t using this money we send to really help us are they. They steal from us everyday. Now they want China to buy more of this country.
I do detect a shift in their collective attitude that is shifting from arrogance to fear of the citizens. As well it should. These traitors think they are above the supreme law of the land and the rule of law. They have to do away with our Constitution so a one world order may be formed.
Remember how many people are without jobs, lost homes, and no money to buy food. Once a critical mass in numbers of the population due to hunger the real game not politics will begin to take back our country.
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
REAL ID? DO NOT COMPLY!
THE ECONOMY SUCKS. SO I DID THE OPPOSITE
OF WHAT EVERYONE IS DOING AND IT WORKED!!!
LOOK WHAT I DID FOR FREE!
http://www.obamamaitreya.com
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I have a solution, the states can tell the feds to kiss there blessed assurance and say well that’s OK feds we will just keep the money we send you each year………………..since you only give us penny’s on the dollar back!
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
THE ECONOMY SUCKS. SO I DID THE OPPOSITE
OF WHAT EVERYONE IS DOING AND IT WORKED!!!
LOOK WHAT I DID FOR FREE!
http://www.obamamaitreya.com
YOU CAN DO EXACTLY WHAT I AM DOING!
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Is it time to start shooting yet?
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
dirt roads beat satanism any day
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
TRY AND MAKE ME GET AN ID CARD. HAHAHHAHAHAHAH WONT HAPPEN
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
classic trojan horse.
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
How long are we going to stand back and do nothing? America we are headed down a path we can not get back from. Where can we go? Our kids have no future. It’s like a bad “B” movie. Everyday we hear more an more bad! The America dream is gone an will never return. Our kids will have a hard way because we let it get this bad.Children of America I’m sorry! I’m sorry I sat on my ass and did not act. Please forgive us.
Theywontchipme Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Redemption is at hand.
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Pack your bags, FEMA camp for you.. Whiner..
GrandpappyB Fan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…there it is!!!!!!!! MORE MORE!!
living0history Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I like your style
Alan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I noticed you are beginning to use 2 syllable words! The hooked on phonics is really starting to pay off, huh!? Three cheers for the Gland Master!
Alan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
That’s it. Sound it out – be-gin-ning. Good!
Now, syl-la-ble. Very good!
You’ll be able to unhand that Gland pretty soon!
Look everyone, our little dumbass will graduate to dumbass derelict any day now!
GrandIllusionC Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
GrandMasterB should change his name to GrandMasterPlan since he seems to know it all…
marie g Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:26 pm
You with the GMB name. You don’t have any friends here. You don’t make us look bad. But you do represent our opposition for what it is. Obsessed with control and over-the-top emotional Your participation here is so fruitless for yourself. Why don’t you find some joy and do something else. Certainly you have something else to occupy your time.
The Street Professor Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
My reply to Mr.Stand Up and Fight appeared and then disappeared. I didn’t say anything offensive. I thought the Alan Jones team was against censorship. Anyway, the new government has plans for our children. They have Maoist and Stalinist daydreams. They are on fire and utterly happy that our economy is collapsing. These people coming out of the college government industrial complex have such blind faith in the system, especially the white females. They will make great totalitarian soldiers. My generation was too smart to be fooled by the government. This generation of students is pathetically domestic. But they will riot over condiment machines at Berkeley, which brings me great hope!
LTC Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
They wiped two of my posts yesterday and they never reappeared, at least your comments popped back up. Who really knows who gets to screw around with the comments. Power curropts my friend, whether a little or a lot, at least in petty dishonest hands.
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Tacked on to a must pass bill?They can do that? No f@%king wonder!
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
WHY DON’T THE STATES WITHHOLD MONEY AND NOT GIVE IT TO THE GOVERNMENT?
JUST STOP SENDING THEM MONEY?
THAT SHOULD PUT A END TO THAT!
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
STOP sending STATE MONEY to the Government.
THAT WILL PUT A END TO THAT REAL FAST!
I DON’T want a BANK ACCOUNT
I DON’T want to go on their AIRPLANES! I’ll Drive!
I DON’T want to go in their CRIMINAL FEDERAL BUILDINGS!
I WANT MY FREEDOM!
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
I AGREE WITH YOU!
STOP sending STATE MONEY to the Government.
THAT WILL PUT A END TO THAT REAL FAST!
I DON’T want a BANK ACCOUNT
I DON’T want to go on their AIRPLANES! I’ll Drive!
I DON’T want to go in their CRIMINAL FEDERAL BUILDINGS!
I WANT MY FREEDOM!
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
“When the Gov’t fears the people you have liberty. When the people fear the Gov’t you have tyranny”. Thomas Jefferson
LTC Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Straight from the mouth of an Illuminati scumbag! Jefferson was a great orator and a great deceiver and public liar. Same with Washington and Franklin. Stop quoting and respecting the men who made our enslavement possible.
Wake up, this country was won by the people then taken over by aristocrats. The people had no say and no participation in the drafting of the Constitution yet they were the prime reason we still have a country.
We do the fighting and they swoop in and steal the glory and the treasure.
Any man who defends these limp wristed elites is a slave, whether he knows it or not. Those men wouldn’t even give you the time of day if they ran into you, unless they were trying to con a vote in their favor out of you. Lawyers and politicians at the bottom of the seven seas; a good start!
Read their private letters (made public after their deaths) and other writings, they admit to supporting and belonging to the Illuminati and the Freemason scum.
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Time to lock and load boys and girls. No one is going to put any chip in me. F-ing nwo can kiss my
azz. These clowns like Ted Turner and the illumanti types will get there’s in spades. EVERY GOVERNMENT LACKEY IS GOING DOWN TOO. We are just waiting not long now.
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
That’s right you rogue states, if you don’t do what we tell you, we won’t give back the money we stole from you in the first place!!! SO THERE!!! How do you like them apples???
Al Gore Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Yummmmy!
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
— Thomas Jefferson
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
This is exactly how they got states to raise the drinking age to 21. Hopefully the states will get a bellyfull of this and say, “Fine. Withhold your highway funds. We don’t give a crap”. Unfortunately, that’s not likely to happen, as every state has its hands out for federal money.
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Man , that will be the last straw. Here in Texas we are about to feed gov perry, cornyn, and hutchison , to the wolves. When the time comes for us to be a free people again, these people and there families, will want to be out of our great republic because we are tired of all this b.s.and they will not like what happens to them. Not satan himself could protect these white trash families.
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Great idea.. Idiots..
GrandpappyB Fan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
To GrandmasterMason…
Well I do declare…you dun stolen ma’heart you big tough talkin hunk of big mans.
Your thinking you need to know more about me? well, I’m 6 ft tall…brown eyes…dark hair…lean and ready to rock, Call me Tiger! I’ll get ya ta bring big that big ‘ol chip on your shoulder…I likes that…YUMMY!
Anti-Bobby Brown Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
this sounds a little to fruity for me
GrandIllusionC Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
ee ah ooh ah ah wing wang walla walla bing bang…
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Keep making stupid threats Seeker. You’ll be cleaning the toilets at the FEMA camp.. And you’ll do a fine job!!
The Seeker Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
And what do you do for a living GMB?.
GrandpappyB Fan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I hope you and I have the same sell block GrandTorino B…your my type!
living0history Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
hey “grand” “master” all you do is rip on people, don’t you have anything constructive to say?
Alan Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 pm
He is the Gland Master. He touches himself and studies hooked on phonics all day!
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
You are half correct Alan. Thank you. I am in the commercial lending business. Which by the way has picked up rather nicely in the past 7 days. The arab kid’s stimulous package seems to be working!
Yes Living O History, I am attempting to be constructive by saving you people from mental dispair. Worrying about all these things is healthy. Obsession with them is not. Alex does not seem to care that he is destroying your lives. When I first discovered this website I became a miserable wreck. After losing a few things that were important to me due to my excessive paranoia and negativity, I decided to try to help people deal with ultra negative profiteers like Alex Jones. His message is good, it borders on very good. However, he needs to learn to see the postive things and be just a little more hopeful at times. Constant negativity is destroying all of you!! Add to that the fact that some of you have massive mental deficiencies and take the negativity to new levels. Thinking you can take on the U.S. Military with your small caliber rifles and non existant fighing skills. You are dead wrong and headed for trouble the likes of which you have no idea. Cease drinking the kool-aid my friends!! Alex, although he means well is leading you down a path of mental and financial destruction!! Follow me!! Follow me TO FREEDOM!!
freedom fries Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Lets see I just got on here and read all of your posts. So you insult people because you are trying to help them…great logic. You insult people from Texas and you have admitted “after losing a few things that were important to me due to my excessive paranoia and negativity”, So you are full of shitty things to say. You must be a kid or something You did not lose those things because of alex or this website. You lost them ,because of you. I don’t know of any man losing anything for knowing the truth. It sounds like you may have lost a chick or something for you to be this upset with the people who share their ideas on this site. Sounds like you are feeling sorry for yourself and taking it out on the people. Remember you lost these things, the website did not make you lose anything. Control your own actions. For christ sake be a man!
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
None of this matters any more. If it’s not on the tv it does not exist.
And I smell a big time rat with all these states all of the sudden filing to seceed.
Al Gore Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm
That’s not a rat you smell. Get out of that yoga position and the smell will go away. It never ceases to amaze me how often people mistake their ass for a rat!
I saw it on TV.
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Now THAT is funny!!!
oldnamvet Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Al gorey and granmasterbaiter how about getting in to the hindu youga stance and suck each other off in front of two mirrors,that should keep you busy for 2 minutes while us patroits do something for the patroit causes.
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 11:49 am
ROFLMFAO !!!!!
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
i think all the states that passed the 10th ammendment resulution should withhold all fed taxes to the fed until the fed complies with the constitution
why would the states accept the fed using state money to ram through a law that nobody wants?
hit the feds where it hurts..in he pocketbook and the states should also declare that thay will support and protect each other when the need comes (and it will)
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I think all who read from this point fwd, should type some love to our friend WebCaster B…’er…granmother B..or was it grandpapy B…well you know who I mean…blow him a kiss and say a few nice words. All he and his type need is more love…and it is up to us to show them the way.
marie g Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:33 pm
PLEASE STOP responding to this character GMB. He is achieving his end by lowering the discourse. Ignore him for our sake. Keep the queue on cue. We have bigger issues to deal with than this man’s ego. Perhaps he is being paid to do this. Make him inefficient at his task EVERYONE PLEASE ignore him.
Now here is a suggestion: Write to the States not in the wise 21 to push them to join. There is still under 50% resistance to RFID. I will try to make a list. Anybody have one already?
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Maybe he can come down here and talk that trash to some true Texans He will get a hug a boot hug!.
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Ahhh yes, the tough talking texans.. The founders of banking insolvency.. Very good!
February 23rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
When the fires of heaven rain down on the corrupt, they will know who the true evil is, themselves and those who shelter them. I’m not talking about the terrorists advertised, but those who would pervert the lives of those who lifted them up, knowing and unknowingly.
He who is without food will probably fire the first bullet. Yet it would be stray without any support.
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Again and again, who cares, stop buying and bring them to their knees once and for all!
Buy food and as little gas as you need, that’s it. Or, get ready for more bailouts!
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:13 pm
The first intelligent thing I have read all day on this site. Very good Paul..
The Seeker Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Your insults make me laugh, oh yea what do you do for a living again.(Oh yea thanks for your great ideas about Texans) P.S. I do not drink. You sound like a really smart guy giving your praise to others that agree with you(weak). And where is your bullhorn?. Like I said come down here and talk your trash and see how tough you really are. I did not say we where tougher than anyone else, I would get my own butt kicked if i went to any other state and talked shit about them. So do not good sense hold you back just go into any bar you would like and talk shit like you do on this site.
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Texas shouldnt be allowed to have ANY banks PERIOD!! Cant be trusted… Either that or cant read a credit report.. Or cant count.. They’ve never really figured out which..
Shady O'grady Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Is it not your bed time now? and dude your work for a lending company (I guess) so you work for the banks, and you have the nerve to come here and talk smack to people, Do not ever come back to this chat room , this is for Americans to discuss their feelings about the state of our once great nation, Not to work out your”paranoia and negativity “, That what meds are for!.
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:34 pm
How you grace us this forum with your wisdom.
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200.....eart_anger
Anger really can kill you: study
People, this is ALL the proof we need they are not only trying to kill us. They ARE murdering us. By illegally, and unconstitutionally doing things to us, without our consent, things which make us angry, thereby shortening our lives.
This is ACTIONABLE under our legal system. Thank you science for giving us more ammunition. At the very least, adopt the attitude of understanding their actions shorten your life through the anger they cause you.
Of course there will be some who go Zen and say don’t let it affect you with anger. You control your anger, which is PROVEN to be crap. When someone attacks you, it is natural and uncontrollable for your body to get angry. It is fight or flight.
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Fuggitaboutit. We are on the cusp of the Great Depression so GOOD. The economic chickens are coming home but not to roost. It’s up to YOU AMERICA. What will you do? Don’t answer, just think about it. Ron Paul finally came out in the house last week and his point was clear…the inmates are running the asylum. All that “bailout money” will hit the streets through the back channels of Law Enforcement and the Prison State snitch and plea bargain system but if you”re just a dope addict or pervert it’s no problem. This is the time of the great cleansing when immorality will finally just not make it. We don’t have to DO anything. I hope the good reader has six months worth of rice beans and salt and the discipline to lay low til things cool down. forgive, forget and move on. Fear not.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
There is a great deal of misunderstanding about what REAL ID requires of the states.
REAL ID provides that states may issue ID documents that are otherwise NOT in compliance with the act. What is says is that the state, to be deemed in compliance with the act, must color code and place easy to read text on the ID documents, stating that they are to be used for NON-FEDERAL PURPOSES ONLY.
So, the state is permitted by law to issue whatever documents it pleases, including those obtained without a SSN, and will still be deemed by the Feds to be in compliance with REAL ID, just so long as non-complaint docs are marked to indicate they are not for federal purposes, but are perfectly acceptable for all other purposes.
I personally spoke with a DHS official in charge of REAL ID and he agreed with my reading of the law 100%. He said the federal government has no authority to make the states do anything, and that even with REAL ID, the states may continue to issue non-compliant docs, so long as they are marked as REAL ID requires.
Most of us will never need a REAL ID compliant document, unless we plan on visiting a military base, federal building, nuclear facility, or other federally controlled facility. Outside of that, the feds have NO jurisdiction.
Contact your state DMV and make sure they are familiar with and have in place the proper procedures to issue marked documents stating that they are “suitable for non-federal use only”.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Why dont you tell her that Luke? I email her all the time as I too can not help but vomit at the mere sight of her. Here is her email address. You can tell her she’s butt ugly, tell her you hate her guts.. Tell her you have a voodoo doll of her, tell her you crap on cut out pictures of her.. Just becareful not to threaten it.. errrr her..
http://speaker.house.gov/contact/
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 pm
I think if more of you got your nose out of Alex Jones’ ass (MARIE G) We would see better results from all this negativity and paranoia.. You need to turn this paranoia into HATE!! HATE works!! Paranoia is just lazy.. Alex was at the bilderbergs meeting with a damn bull horn.. I might be mistaken but I just didnt see any of you there!! HATE would have got you up off your asses!! HATE produces results!! Not sitting at a tavern full of damn drunks TALKING about how tough you are. (THE SEEKER) Lazy damn Texan..
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
I know it is a bit confusing, but that is the legal truth of it.
States CAN issue REAL ID non-compliant docs, so long as they are properly color coded and identified as such, and the state will still be deemed to be in compliance with REAL ID, and not lose any federal funds.
Only if the states did not color code or place the required text notice on the non-compliant docs would they be in non-compliance with the act.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
The states however would prefer to have us believe that under REAL ID, they can only issue docs that are compliant, and are forbidden from issuing any that are not. This gives them a convenient excuse to demand a SSN, even when no law requires it, or could, without being unconstitutional.
So, it is at the STATE level that we must force the issue, and let the states know that they can issue documents to Citizens that do not meet certain REAL ID requirements, but that so long as those documents are color coded and plainly identified as being for state use only, they ARE compliant, and do not represent a threat to the state receiving federal funding.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Its not paranoia if these articles are accurate! Its not a matter of if you can fight with your small caliber weapon,if this is actually going on,your mind is your weapon, the guns are just tools, the key is once we decide to fight there is no turning back.keep your backs against wall friends and pray!
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Yes, Pray!!! Something 90% of the people here have no clue how to do because if they are not anti semites they are agnostic. Brilliant group Alex has here.. They should be praying with us R.J. from K.C…. Praying that this muzlum arab cocksucker gets his wings clipped before he can run what’s left of this country into the dirt!! Congratulations America!! You elected a damn arab because you’re too stupid to tell the difference between BLACK AND arab!!! IDIOTS!
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Who CARES about a damn ID card for crying out loud!!! Who cares? It’s just a damn ID card!! Next thing you know you’ll all object to a library card!! That’s the place with all the books that you can borrow THE SEEKER!!! I know you have never been to one. Perhaps you should give it a try! Beats shooting damn plastic tipped darts at some damn gin mill with your degenerate friends.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
RESIST this at all costs. Email/call congressmen weekly. Tell your friends and family to do the same. We have to make them more afraid of us THE PEOPLE more than there monetary masters! Free your mind!
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Good advice FreeYourMind.. I email that blind black cocain snorting, hooker loving piece of crap Governor of NY.. It doesnt do much good though, the prick cant read!! Nothing was closer to the truth than that SNL clip of him. That was priceless!
I will say this, our White House, IF it survives this ordeal is going to need to be both fumigated and exorcised.. Nothing is worse than a stupid F’ing arab G_d damn useless lying piece of shiite muzlum living there with his over educated racist damn nijjer wife who can DRILL him in 1 on 1 AND has bigger feet than him!!! A more sickening sight than a muzlum with a basketball I can not recall!
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
First of all, you are not employees. Employees are government workers in our codified laws, but your boss doesn’t know this, and if they were to take a closer look at what their obligation is to the state, then they would realize that making you fill out a tax form isn’t even needed.
If you want to go the other way with it, you can just be a subcontractor. No subcontractor has to fill out a I-9.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Organize. Contact your local politicians as well as your federal politicians. Make it clear to them that this is something that “We the people” will resist. The Constitution was created to ensure a peaceful transition of power of government. If the reject the Constitution they are rejecting peace in the United States of America. Once again I say organize, and show them the strength in our numbers.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
You know nothing about me or my friends. It must be easy for you to insult people over the net. Maybe you should go to a site like something to do with commercial lending and insult them. You do not help any of of us by being here. I kinda think If you put a bullet in your mouth not to many people would miss your commercial lending ass. So just ponder that idea , Your a very rude person and are using air that a good person could use.
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Now see Seeker? You’re just upset because I called you an asshole and because you wear funny boots and a strange hat.. Hey, if the trailer trash chicks dig it then wtf.. I guess you have no choice.. Sorry that I cant help ya with the bullet in the mouth idea. Unlike you I dont have a gun rack in my truuuck.. Dunno what that’s about but.. Whatever.. Here in New York, we can always spot guys who WOULD have gun racks though.. They have blue lights under their truuucks!! Real life street heros!!
the Seeker Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 pm
New York huh. Isn’t your place under lock down with all the new world order types living there. And your gross generalizations of my state just shows how much you know , Oh yea you really think I get my feelings hurt because a guy on the net called me an asshole. Im made of tougher stuff than that. Oh yea , It shows no one wants you here on this site. so once again please leave .
Ace's & Eight's Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
It figures .A stupid ass New York idiot talking trash to decent people here on this forum . Don’t be so quick to put down those of us that DO have our guns . And I have a gun rack in my pickup so what ? At least WE have our guns , What do you have ? Nothing,Thats right, YOU HAVE NOTHING ! Now run along and kiss Bloombergs ass like a good little bitch !!!
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Now is the time,…fly the Bonnie Blue Flag. Let’s put them up by the millions, and secessed from the Union!
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
@ GrandMasterB – Did you know all the Big Idea Planners of Stalinist Russia/Sovietisment of Eastern Europe……….were put into the mass Graves with all the rest ?
Oh yes! They said come here dear? And you went because you follow orders so well and they said look in here?
You did and they wen tPOP! And you will go ………Lights out! Into a Barrel…….
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Uhhhh ok..
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Hey GMB please leave others alone and quit insulting people, The Seeker did nothing to you,and you insulted him and his people. We do not need you in this site so take your commercial lending ass somewhere else.We do not want you here . I have a feeling you have a lot mental problems. So insulting people on the net is your “stepping stone”,to make yourself feel better ,sad!
The Seeker Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Thanks, You hit the nail on the head.
GrandMasterB Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:20 pm
OMG THAT’S my problem? Holy CRAP I had no idea!! Thanks for the diagnosis DOCTOR!! But I think i’ll stay!! Maybe I am a snitch and everytime someone posts the fact that they will shoot federal agents or soldiers who try to ENFORCE THE LAW I send their IP address to the FBI.. Ever think of that BUTTWIPE? Well im not.. So STFU.. Actually I am recruiting for Alex.. Seeing who can take the heat and who cracks under the pressure.. Seeker? You’re disqualified.. Tim? I think your GIJoe has his boots on the wrong feet.. MarieG? She’s fixing supper but she’s out of the running too.. Alex is looking for people with class to help him.. People who dont crack under pressure.. Sadly, you didnt make the cut either..
Mr. Sunshine. Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Dude, please leave and get some help. I mean really you have insulted just about everyone who disagrees with you. If you don’t believe in what is read or said on infowars maybe you should give your insults to another website. Just like the people have said “just go away”,
Grandmaster(I am a commercial banker,here me roar) Reply:
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
, you are a dick please leave and never come back to infowars,P.S. I know some people from Texas and you would not make a bump on a real Texans ass, The Seeker was right if you talked all that smack about them to there face , well bad things would happen to you.
Corporate Death Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 8:37 am
What a dork.
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
GMB, you can not deny what these people have said about you . You have insulted a lot of people for no good reason on this site, So when people say you are using stepping stone psy , it is true. So just go away and let the adults talk.(fix your own problems first before you insult others).
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Ok Doctor, I’ll be sure to take that advice into account. Alex likes what I do here from time to time when I have a few minutes. It shows him who the players are.. If he didnt like it, none of my posts would go through. It’s fairly obvious that I serve a purpose here. My job is done here for today. You can all carry on now about how many soldiers you’re going to slay with your cache of weapons that are all sighted in of course and you know exactly where to aim with the ONE SHOT you will get at a man wearing full body armor and a bullet proof helmet.. Have a good evening all!!
Al Gore Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Knees, elbows, face and throat!
February 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 pm
http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com/
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm
So you and Alex are buds huh, ? And I did not say anything about shooting people you did. Can anybody else smell crazy. Be sure to say hi to alex for me! …crazy shit.
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:34 pm
real id/ so they can identify me/ deny me/ the right to be annoumous/ all of us!!!!!!!!!!
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 pm
I got your awaiting moderation right here.
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
You fucking alphabet squirrels been playing with your nuts so long you gone nuts.
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 pm
there are 300 million americans. we only need 1% of them to be on our side. 1% is 3 million. that means the NWO will have to fight 3 million armed and very proud people. that would scare the be’jesus out of the military. so if 99% of americans(sheeple) decide to submit don’t feel alone…there are 2,999,999 patriots/insurgents(or whatever the damned NWO wants to call us) all over the place.
pussy’s
February 24th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Hey moderator. Listen close. I’m going to say what I like. You dont like it tuff nuggets. You and your gubbment turds can delete it but I still know the truth and that’s what the post was about.
Now let me say this. Screw you I had to many post lost. This site has become boring with all mindless chicken shit squabelling and meaningless argumentative post. I speak the truth as best as I have been able to research to my satisfaction. I offer it freely.
I aint here to make friends. How am I doin.
The Seeker Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 12:26 am
awesome!
February 24th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Barack Obama, David Rockefeller, Rothschild, and the rest of you idiots can stick your “Real ID” cards where the sun don’t shine, because we are not about to submit to your tyranny! You can stick those New World Order blueprints up you butt too, or even better yet, you can use them as toilet paper since that will be all they are good for once you guys go for broke with this genocidal enslavement you have all been snickering in front of cameras over! I can’t figure you guys out. Instead of answering questions when you are asked, you all just get that cheesecake grin and start laughing like a bunch of little kids! This is not the type of leadership we expect here in America, but wait, you all aren’t the leadership. All of you NWO conspirators are nothing but a bunch of retarded monkeys on strings!
February 24th, 2009 at 12:30 am
Sometimes the truth is hard to take.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:34 am
WE NEED TO PROTEST THIS.. DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN~
DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN__ FIGHT fight FIgHT FIgHT!!
IF THIS GOES INTO PLACE IM OUTTA HERE!!! F THAT!!
February 24th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Candy’s gone BAD people…WTF don’t you kapish??? America is “Under the Table” folks!!! Yet Micky Roaurke has signifigance in the world!!!! I put on boots for motherfuckin’ what??? It’s OK, keep going, nothings wrong!!!! Now dig up Y’all…gotta’ keep a’ runnin’ can’t stop for you!!! “The Truth is a Rock’N’ Roll machine!!! “The GODZ!!!” Eric moore & Mark Chatfield. People…wake the fuck up!!! I’m gonna’ burn right up like a $2 dollar pistol rocket shot thru the sun!!! I can’t see nuthin’, I can’t feel nuthin’,I can’t do nothin’ one damned day!!! I’m gonna’ rocket shot thru the sun!!!! “All ‘HAIL ‘ Thermal Expansion!!!”
February 24th, 2009 at 12:38 am
The fact is, we already have a national ID card to be used and accepted for ALL federal purposes.
It is called a U.S. Passport, and can be gotten with NO Social Security Number! I know, because I have one. I found out a few years ago that by law they cannot deny you a U.S. Passport just because you refuse to provide a SSN. The instructions on the application try to intimidate you by threatening a possible $500 fine from IRS if you do not provide a SSN. That right there tells you that you can apply for a passport with0ut providing a SSN. Be brave, and ignore the threat. IRS never contacted me, much less fined me $500 for not providing a SSN.
The key here is to NOT follow the instructions, which have NO force of law, and which tell you to write in a bunch of zeros where the SSN goes if you are unable or unwilling to provide a SSN. So, leave that section BLANK, they WILL process the application anyway, and if there is no other reason to not do so, they will issue you your own U.S. Passport, which is good in all 50 states, island possessions, territories, federal facilities, and recognized by governments around the world.
I contacted the Department of State in advance and asked a few questions I already knew the answers to, just to hear it straight from the horse’s mouth. I told them I could not possibly sign the application under penalty of perjury if I put in a bunch of zeros where the SSN goes, because I would be swearing that 000-00-0000 is my correct SSN, when it isn’t, which could put me in legal jeopardy. They told me to just leave it blank and they would process it anyway. Exactly as I had been told they would.
My only mistake was paying for expedited service, because instead of taking several days, it took months, because they had a hell of a time making sure I wasn’t a “deadbeat dad” without a SSN, and because I have a fairly common name, but I finally got it, hand delivered by two State Department agents who wanted to get a better look at me first. No problem. I had committed no crime whatsoever. We chit-chatted, I offered to buy them lunch, they gave me my passport, and left, never to be heard from again.
So there you have it. Americans do not need a REAL ID compliant state ID for federal purposes. All they need is a U.S. Passport, which can even be had without providing a Social Security Number!
I urge every American to do this and put an end to this REAL ID nonsense. For state purposes, I use a driver’s license, for all other purposes, I use my U.S. passport.
Problem solved.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Fuck…I forgot the N!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
the Seeker Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 1:11 am
damn h.j.t.b.l.f….I thought you forgot…Whoops I forgot “all hail thermal expansion”, Damn I feel better now too.
February 24th, 2009 at 1:04 am
This is the same exact way the Feds extorted the states into adopting the universal drinking age. So much for checks and balances and the federal government respecting the authority of state government.
February 24th, 2009 at 1:16 am
I have made 4 count em 4 post to this site on this article. All were deleted. This is the worst. it means the government has control of Alex’s web site. I dont want to believe it but waiting for moderation means somebody is watching my post. I’m gonna change the post name and mail and see if it gets through.
mo funny Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 1:54 am
What did you post?
February 24th, 2009 at 1:22 am
This site is definitely censored and controlled by the agencies. They have deleted all 8 post post relevant to this article.
pesto fart Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Ive been coming here for over a year and I have never had a post deleted, your not one of those obama Zombies who want to shut this site down are you?
Corporate Death Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Yes, happens. If it’s relevant and knowledgeable, it’s gone!!!!
Several lost here.
February 24th, 2009 at 1:31 am
The truth shall set you free if alex will let you get it.
February 24th, 2009 at 2:02 am
Sometimes I feel like Im dreaming with all this B.S. going on, I wish it was a dream, I know one thing is for sure I will never get a REAL ID card.
February 24th, 2009 at 2:05 am
Does anyone remember a that quote im not quite sure how it goes but something like this. “The people will not ask for it , they will demand it.” Anyone know who said it and the exact quote?
Pandoras out... Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Henry Kissinger quotes:
“Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.”
Not sure if this is what your looking for, hope it helped.
February 24th, 2009 at 2:58 am
dear uncle scam,
please send me bill that repesents my share of the national debt, for i wish to make a final payment on principal and close my account with you. I will pay in legal tender, YOUR FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES!
ha ha ha ha ha
your buddy, ew
February 24th, 2009 at 3:00 am
Here is Elton Gallegly’s website if you Would like to Thank him for sponsering the Bill with a Email or Phone Call
http://www.house.gov/gallegly/
February 24th, 2009 at 4:04 am
What Many States may do is start producing their own currentcy again.
They sell off some of the States junk assets that suk them into the Federal/UN sucking machine, and buy gold to back their new currentcy up.
That’s why I think the States that Plan to succeed, may do.
Such a State would no lomger be beholden to the Centralised Banks, but would become State Banks for each Individual country or State!
See? That’s why they call them States! Essentially a State IS a Individual country. Many donot understand this because?
Well? They haven’t taught it in our schools in a very Long Time.
February 24th, 2009 at 4:15 am
I also believe If 1 or 2 States succedd from the Union?
This will desolve every underhanded law the Powers that be made up to control Us with.
The MORE States that suceed from the Union? The Better chance America will have in restoring its self.
More or less the Colonies succeeded from the Crowns Law to make a better system.
Because the Crown in England had become corrupted by thieves and tyyrants.
WE are facing the same garbage all over again.
England or the Crown, wants to Become a Super-State again.
And they have been using the US, Israel and the UN to do it .
Why do you think NATO continues to try an encircle Russia and China?
Is it to make a Better freer World?
Do you see anything that you could remotelly call frredom where these powers have come to together to contol the people it subverts?
February 24th, 2009 at 4:31 am
I mean look? Where are quite a few of these TV big Money investors going now that the US market is going to crap?
China?
Why would a FREE person want to move to China where once you become a citizen or are declared a citizen by the Gov’t(Which it can do by it’s own power) because of statis? Take everything you have?
Either these folks are in on the take down of the USA. Or? They Are really friggen stupid. And they didn’t get rich by being stupid did they?
But then agains? They are stupid.
Because they are not realising the sit/rep they are placing themselves into.
They just think they will be protected there in these economically stronger but fascist run countries.
February 24th, 2009 at 4:38 am
Own and that check he did get when he did get it? Would only be a week or two’s pay sometimes sometime more. Sometime less.
Try dancing on that macabre as a Life?
February 24th, 2009 at 4:42 am
one laywer searched in many law books, and cant find a single law that says the american has to pay income tax.
February 24th, 2009 at 4:47 am
So keep rah rah’ing Hillary,Obama and the lesser Repulicon Jobs.
Because thee above is exactlly what they have in store for America.
February 24th, 2009 at 4:53 am
The fires of liberty are strong within this group on this comment thread. It warms the heart to know we all are awake and got each others back against this tyrannical government. We need to keep spreading this info and show the people how the Takeover is happening right before their eyes with sourced info like this and other articles on this and other alternative media sites.
You can also gauge the importance of an issue based on the media silence. Notice how there is no talk of the state sovereignty movement although it keeps growing and growing. We are all having a big effect working together for the larger cause of liberty.
Get past the diversions and the traps of division and join the new American Revolution 2.0!
In Liberty,
Harold ~ author of the above article
http://www.justgetthere.us
February 24th, 2009 at 5:04 am
The GCNLive network is awesome – but unfortunately infested with CIA. I could tell you more.
February 24th, 2009 at 5:05 am
Oh and if we as a country keep allowing our Government to take us on the Roas theyhave planned for Us?
There will be no more Camping out on the week-ends!
No more Saturday, In the Park!
No more going to the local Pub to talk fishing or cars, or hunting or woman for that matter, with the Buds.
No more church!
Imagine it started raining 1 day and the sun never shined again? Ever……….
And every time you went out of your home a Policeman stopped you for your ID.
And if you didn’t knoe every dot and dash on that ID?
You could become a internal exhile.
Which means you no longr exsisted in that world you were being governed under.
Which means what exatlly? Means you were going to be put in a forced labor camp or put to death by the state.
Can’t happen in America?
Look how many things you must Pay for and get pemission for now?
What if you couldn’t afford the fees for your drivers license renewal? You think the State that is starving for money is gonna let you give them an IOU? to continue?
You think the State is going to allow you to keep your property & Home if because.They destroyed the economy and you can no longer just afford you property taxes? That they will not come anmd throw you out on your arse? And sell it to someone who has the money(Foreigner)?
Think again sammy………
February 24th, 2009 at 5:11 am
Why did what Our Founding Fathers stived for fail?
I think because they shouldof Killed those GD Tories to begin with.Or showed them the door out of our Country.
Because we have been fighting those bastards that want to Bring the USA(colonies ) Back under the Crown, SINCE!
Corporate Death Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Fantasy.
February 24th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Ron Paul on the REAL ID (2005)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCU2OJPZ4AM
February 24th, 2009 at 8:12 am
When will the crime gang in Washington realise they can’t go on like this?
They rob and loot America on the one hand.
Then, they hand back a tiny amount with handcuffs attached.
That kind of reminds me of the story of the wolf with flour on its paw.
People are wising up. Either they govern for the people NOW or there will be a revolution.
Governing for the people instead of for themselves will require a 360 degree turn in their mindset, and they don’t seem to be able to spin around as fast as the situation requires.
February 24th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Ok people…….i normally am quite serious in here but i think from time to time we need a laugh with all that is going on….. so forgive me the following but i thought i would share something a friend sent me( another person waking up by the way)
If you are sitting next to someone who irritates you on a plane or
train
1. Quietly and calmly open up your laptop case.
2. Remove your laptop.
3. Boot it.
4. Make sure the guy who won’t leave you alone can see the
screen.
5. Open your email client to this message.
6. Close your eyes and tilt your head up to the sky.
7. Then hit this link: http://www.thecleverest.com/countdown.swf
Pandoras out... Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
now THATS funny!
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Scott…G’damn that was funny!!!! Straight to GTMO bro’!!! BWaHaaaHaaa!!! Renditions anyone??? “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
February 24th, 2009 at 8:29 am
“or loose highway funding”
I see this all the time. Don’t you mean “lose” and not “loose”?
Look it up.
Harold Gray Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Doh, I looked it up again just for you. And in fact dictionary.com had a sentence that is similar as the one I wrote. I will remember that for the future, if you can only find this small grammatical error than that’s good. The information is 100 percent accurate and sourced. After spending so much time researching, double checking facts, hyper-linking and looking for spelling and errors, your eyes sometimes miss things. Want to volunteer as a proof reader?
loose – adjective
6. available for disposal; unused; unappropriated: loose funds.
February 24th, 2009 at 9:12 am
It’s a sad time when the feds need to blackmail the states to comply with their illegal ID system. Many states will opt out. Obama is bringing governmental change I hate to believe in.
Obama’s acronym for HOPE:
Hellish
Outrageous
Permanent
Expansion
February 24th, 2009 at 9:17 am
the crowd resists
February 24th, 2009 at 10:01 am
so they are trying to manipulate people to commit crimes. After that, they blackmail. They are petty little criminals without any soul.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Why don’t we withold our tax money from the federal government, as States. We will escrow it until they can behave.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:33 am
maybe there is good manipulation, too?
February 24th, 2009 at 10:37 am
WHAT FUNDS. They belong to the states anyway. TWO can play that game. Just stop giving the federal beast the funds in the first place. Reasserting their 9th and 10th Ammmendments Rights would be the wisest move the States could make. The Fed needs us, we don’t need the Fed.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I definetely believe that buying seeds is very, very, very beneficial . That is good manipulation.
February 24th, 2009 at 10:39 am
alright, proven: there is good manipulation -.-
February 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
The Bush Cartel Family are NOT real Texans .They are England Loyalist scum . Don’t even put them in the same class as the fine people from Texas The same goes for those bastard Kennedy’s . Ask any Real Texans what they really think of those Bush’s .You’d be surprised at what they have to say .
February 24th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
The Federal Government has NO money of its own to give or withhold.
IT IS OUR MONEY, BUT ONLY IS WE GAVE IT TO THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
We need to stop feeding the beast, keep our money in our own communities and states, and let the federal government fund itself as it was originally intended, which is solely through import duties and tariffs on imported goods, and taxes on interstate commerce.
February 24th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Test
February 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Last evening I was at this site making a comment regard the application of real ID card upon the States. I attempted to post it four times and even changed names and emails on all four. Each time it was temporarily posted and tagged with “your comment is awaiting moderation”.
The comment was informative and without any foul language. I have read the post under this article and find it ludicrous that posts from the numerous the trolls have been posted with no valuable content whatsoever. Yet one that directly addresses the relevant is deleted. So I have tried reposting the same comment today with no success.
The post was addressing the fact of dual United States. The Legislative Act of February 21, 1871, Forty-first Congress, Session III, Chapter 62, page 419. Created a Corporate United States.
http://www.teamlaw.org/DCOA-1871.pdf
This is also supported by the statement; “The United States Government is a Foreign Corporation With Respect to a State”, Volume 20, Corpus Juris Sec. § 1785 based on the definitions § 1783. “Definitions” and § 1784. “What Are Foreign Corporations”.
For supporting material and evidence see the following with references…
“Essay on Citizenship”
“The United States Government is a Foreign Corporation With Respect to a State”, Volume 20: Corpus Juris Sec. § 1785
Our State is one of the several States of the Union. The enemy is foreign to our State.
I have sworn to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemys foreign and domestic.
I cant untake the oath.
The 13th amendment freed the slaves and the 14th amendment reduced every one to the status of (lower case c) citizens (slaves) property of the corporate United States. Because of reconstruction the nation was under martial law. FYI, when you sign any piece of paper with the federal government ie: 1040, W-4 it is a contract you are telling them you are a US citizen. That means a 14th amendment corporate citizen. You have just left the jurisdiction of the Constitution. You are now in contract law. You have attested that you are a citizen of the ten mile square District of Columbia. Not a Citizen of the guaranteed republic of the State in which you live.
There is no arguing to the contrary. The United States is a foreign corporation. In fact, if one reads Title 28 USCS § 297, the “compact states” of subsection (a) are clearly defined as “countries” in subsection (b). So if the United States is a foreign corporation in relation to a group of “countries,” then what are the ramifications to those who have dual citizenship, especially when the foreign corporation formally enters into bankruptcy and becomes pledged to a third party creditor?
The IRS is a collection agency of the Federal Reserve, collecting payment from you to pay the interest on money borrowed from The Fed by Congress in your (the American citizen/taxpayers name). Yes, a private Corporation. Owned and operated by a privately owned international banking cartel. Puerto Rico is a territory and therefore a State of the United States, but not one of the several States of the Union or “compact states”.
You see we live in two realities. A mirrored world where up is down, right is wrong , good is bad. One that is the laws of men, under contract law, The Constitution of the United States of America, where your rights, freedom, liberties are determined and regulated under terms of the contract.
CONTRACT LAW IS MARITIME LAW THE LAW OF THE SEA. WE ARE A LANDED PEOPLE.
The other one is that as close as one could get to the laws of natures God, of liberty, freedom, justice, which are all trying to achieve, under the Constitution for the United States of America. Could this be the heaven on earth which is so desperately sought after.
Will we wait for the ethereal Jesus of the Bible to return and rescue us from the great satan of mans laws, and continue to follow the the anti christ (government) to the natural conclusion of mans laws–destruction.
Revelations 10:2, And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the the sea, and his left foot upon the earth,
Upon the sea is maritime law, upon the earth is landed law. The book is the law of man and it is bitter.
The alternative is that we seek the courage and strength of natures God within ourselves and change the course and free ourselves from the despotism of the idea and implementation of mans laws and observe rules of conduct, the Constitution would be a real good start.
Is Jesus a man of flesh and blood who comes from the peoples of the earth in the spirit and leads the peoples against the NWO if so would he not be here already. Are the angels the people that have joined in the struggle.
Conclusion. This site is heavily monitored and censored by someone. I’m not going to stop.
February 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I aint takin no stinkin ID card
Besides which one would I carry. My State ID, drivers licenses. Or maybe the Foreign ID of the Corporate Washington DC.. Huuuuummmmm. Good question. How about none of the above. Got my name engraved right here on the muzzle of my glock.
I suggest that you visit; http://www.restoretherepublic.org/?p=18. Read Americas Legal Status
February 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
oops!
http://thinkfree.ca/
February 24th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
February 23, 2009
Jaguar Returns
No, not the car–the animal! A jaguar was captured just south of Tucson, Arizona this past week. The large cat had not been seen in many decades, almost a century.
In Central Mexico, jaguars have been spotted after over 100 years of absence. These creatures are making a roaring comeback.
What is bringing them back? Same project that is returning the thunderbirds, sea serpents and other creatures from long ago–the Illuminati plan to return North America to prehistoric conditions.
http://www.expansions.com/News.cfm
February 24th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Thanks to the dirty, unconstitutional, strongarmed and up-in-your-face implementation of our nation’s tax laws with respect to the working man and the ignorance of the American people, the federal government has, for scores of years, blackmailed the States with the withholding of funds should the States fail to go along with whatever agenda the feds happen to be pushing at the moment. This HUGE leverage never would have been possible if the federal government did not have the money to blackmail the States with in the first place. The American people are slowly waking up from their slumber. My only fear is that by the time the PEOPLE fully realize the magnitude of the SCAM and CON JOB the federal government has perpetrated on them, that a NEW constitution will have been slipped in place of the old one where all of our GOD given rights have been replaced with privilges granted by THE STATE and subject to revocation at will.
The 10th Gone Wild Reply:
February 24th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
That’s, “privileges”. My bad. Sorry.