The Scotsman
December 9, 2008
Private security guards fired machine guns at innocent, surrendering Iraqis and launched a grenade into a girls’ school, US prosecutors said yesterday.
Manslaughter charges were announced against five guards with Blackwater Worldwide.
A sixth guard for the US contractor admitted in a plea deal to killing at least one Iraqi in the 2007 shooting in Baghdad’s Nisoor Square. Seventeen Iraqis were killed.
The five guards surrendered yesterday and were due to ask a federal judge for bail.
“The tragic events in Nisoor Square were shocking and a violation of basic human rights,” said the FBI assistant director, Joseph Persichini.
In addition to being charged with 14 counts of manslaughter, the five guards face 20 counts of attempted manslaughter.
The shooting unfolded in the crowded square, where prosecutors say civilians were going about their lives.
The guards tried to shut the intersection after a car bombing elsewhere in the city.
Witnesses said the guards opened fire unprovoked. Women and children were among the victims, and the shooting left the square littered with wrecked cars.
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December 9th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
manslaughter? more like pre-meditated murder.
i hope they are found guilty on all charges.
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March 16th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Thinkfirst is right. Pre-meditated, they had time to think of their actions and still pulled the trigger.
As for the rest of you fat, anti-American, computer jockey, arm-chair generals;
Jones isn’t anti-American so why are you.
Who’s side are you on?
Army privates do not have immunity, so wipe tha lie off your tiny little mind.
Oh ya, let’s target the families of these murders.
That’s constitutional.
I’ve spent 27 months in Iraq defending this country and the constitution (at least I though I was).
And now you scumbags lower yourself to the level of corporate mercenary murders?
Good for you.
I’ll be the first to put one through anyone of you socialist who assist the NWO in destroying all we have fough and died for.
I would suggest that you do military service, but I don’t want to lead any of you s---bags into battle.
Your keyboard bravery is a good indicator of battlefield cowardess.
Soldiers give their serve and lives for the ideals of the Constitution and America.
Alex Jones respects and thanks them for their service, why can’t you?
How were we to know we were being manipulated?
We just have the heart and intestinal fortitude to do for all of you, that you won’t do for yourselves.
God forbid if the time comes, you will rely on people like us to repel the onslaught of oppressors while you hide in your mothers basement, blogging.
Anyone like Thinkfirst, Alex Jones, Chuck Norris, Ron Paul or even Glenn Beck disregard this message.
As for the rest of you socialists, …
screw it I’m done…you’re welcome ladies
December 9th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Karma is a bitch. They’ll get theirs…
December 9th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Trust me blackwater will still work for the government, carry out their orders, and at times scapegoats will be found, or people will be offered up to take the blame. Just apart of the plan. do not expect this little show to make any big changes. Remember they eat their own.
December 9th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
manslaughter? Guess it was the civilians own fault to stand in the way of the bullets.
I wonder what the charges would have been if it was an arab doing this in the middle of NYC.
December 9th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
f---in’ pussies…shove an incendiary grenade up their MF’n asses on Pay-Per-View and call it a day!!! “Thermal Expansion” at it’s best Hhhhoooommmmeeebooooyyyyeeeessss!!!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Evil is as Evil does.
December 9th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Stupid f---ing Iraqis. That’ll teach them to surrender.
Next time theyll think twice about giving just because they are faced with a little hardship……….
AMERICA YOU ARE A BUNCH OF MURDERING SCUMBAGS AND YOURS IS COMING.
December 9th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
They will be sentenced and Bush will pardon them…
December 9th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
#8
Get off the PC and go back to your mental hospital, you piece of s---!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Is this only more theatre to make the people think they are actually trying to do something effective about these megalomaniacal, paid psychopaths? Now that I think about it, whether that is their intention or not, it sure looks like such a deceptive band-aid on a bullet wound.
However, I pray this is the first of many such trials to come… and may the trail of prosecution lead all the way to the insane, criminal “elite” at the top of this monstrous pyramid!!!
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Disseminate flyers and/or DVD copies!! (wearechange.org has one of the best 911 Truth flyers)
As soon as We the People take responsibility as co-Creators of reality and remember that WE have the TRUE power, this new world order beast will begin to die!!!
On with the r3VOLution!!!…
!!!DTTNWO!!!
December 9th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I hope their families feel just as safe as the families of their victims.
I bet they’ll be just as easy to find…
Someone should bring them the justice that the murderous courts will not.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
just a show,after the fake trial they will be set free and have new identity,blackwater will still be in business,the killing and the death will continue.Mission Impossible and the movie Swordfish with John Travolta tells it all,scum like blackwater should not even exist,
December 9th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
manslauter charges? Their sentence will be concurrent if it’s not up to iraqi courts. they will get less time than O J SIMOSON which was set up by CIA. Look at Goldmans criminal record.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
The blood of these Iraqis is on George Bush’s hands. None of them would even be there if he hadn’t lied. Bush should be sentenced for conspiring, planning, and hiring mercenaries to kill innocent Iraqis. Dick should be there, too. I despise the U.N., but it would be poetic justice and ironic if the ICC indicted Bush and Cheney for war crimes, and sentenced them to a life of hard labor breaking rocks.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
#10 Sensible Solution f--- you, you apathetic waste of space american peice of s---.
How long has America been in Iraq ?
YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR GOVERNMENT, YOU ARE A MURDERER AND A RAPIST.
and dont start moaning about rigged elections you pussy. We have all heard the moaning and we are waiting to see your words become actions.
Until then YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS so f--- OFF.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
They have done this in your name. What then when they are on the streets of America.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Elvis your cock is enormous. All hail.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
I think this f*cktard “ELVIS” was at some point denied access to the U.S., hence his disdain for our once great republic, and her long suffering people. ELVIS do us all a favor and follow your namesakes lead, and go die!
Why is it you never state YOUR country of origin? What makes YOU so much better than Americans? I guess what i’d really like to know is why do you even visit this website, which if you did’nt know, is primarily American!
You’re just another anonymous internet asswipe,and your views mean NOTHING!
p.s. ELVIS WAS AN AMERICAN!
December 9th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
You Blackwater scum better not show your faces in my neighborhood. You think you can do to the US citizens what you did in Iraq are in for a grim awakening. We are watching your every move and when you step out of line there we will be.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
They need to be charged with murder and executed.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Mercs of any stripe cannot be allowed to gain a foothold in any minicipality, neighborhood, county; catch my drift? They must be neutralized with prejudice when they show their scumbag heads. Get it?
December 9th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
let them be hang by their growings in a public place in downtown bagdad.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
None of you know what you are talking about. You have convected them without knowing all the facts or evidence. Does the movie “The Ox-bow Incident ” come to mind?
December 9th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Blackwater will be in our neighborhoods soon. Stock up on lead while you still can. You will need ever bit of it to protect your family.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Blackwater, like the other corrupt, private firms that do business with the “banksters”, are just plain criminal. the up side is that they usually use “worth owning MBR and smaller autos”
Be an honor to pick through their remains
December 9th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
Am I the only one here who is sick and tired of hearing the same commercial breaks OVER AND OVER AND OVER? Alex, please change the commercials every so often, use different clips and quotes from the movies, because it is driving us NUTS! It really IS a big turn-off! It is absolute TORTURE!
December 9th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
James.. turn the volume down during commercials and grab a beer
December 9th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Alex, off the topic here, but very important. PLEASE change the commercials on your radio program every now and then. Change the clips and quotes from your movies because hearing the same thing OVER AND OVER for months on end is torture! IT IS DRIVING US NUTS!
December 9th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Blackwater is in for a battle they’ve never dreamed! We will be every bit as ruthless and unforgiving as they have been!!! “Bring it ON”, you steroid headed blowhards! WE WILL HANG YOU BY YOUR f---ING TESTICLES! Treasonous cowards! Lets see how you fight against REAL men who are defending the greatest NATION in the history of the world!! I predict you will get everything you’ve got coming to you, and MORE! Sociopathic MURDERERS!
December 9th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
BLACKWATER, just like what I flushed down the TOILET today! You drug-crazed sociopaths are gonna get yours when you TRY to pull this s--- in AMERICA!!! You cowardly murderers will be BEGGING for your lives when you attempt to murder AMERICANS! BANK ON IT!!! (WE OUTNUMBER YOU AND WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE GREATEST CAUSE IN HISTORY—- WE WILL BE RUTHLESS!!!!!!!!)
December 9th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
MANSLAUGHTER?!?!?!?!!???? You’ve got to be kidding me!!! they killed 17 people, launch grenades into a girl’s school, shooting women and children and MANSLAUGHTER is the charge!?
December 9th, 2008 at 10:48 pm
Blackwater isn’t reading this.Though I do mirror your statement.It must make these guys feel so big to take the best firepower and kill poor lowly arab women and children.And they already prettymuch pulled it in Katrina and called it shooting lootersOn the Brightside?Look no Helmets and big gaps in thier vests.We see the Socalled justice yet again in the courts.I hope the Muslims in Gen. Pop. get ahold of these scumbags.I can’t believe they demonize Militias that never do crap other than watch and wait for the go ahead from the people.First the Cheney/Gonzales thing and now this.Gentlemen Tell your God to prepare for Blood.For Evil truly does run rampant over this World unleashed.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
First to #22 & #25, they are already in your municipality so keep your powder dry. To #26 YES I fully agree. To #30 & 31 they hav no idea, yet. Oh by the way I’ll have a beer too, while I clean my gun….s.
ME.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Evan Liberty, from New Hampshire < one of the Pricks. I better never see him in my neck of the woods or near my family.
December 9th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Check out the site! http://www.propagandawerks.blogspot.com
December 9th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Yeah see? It’s like 3 shots for a quarter for some of these maniacal bastards…like they’re in a shootin’ gallery for rogue assassins within the ranks. And many commanding officers look the other way and write it off as a stress release, while they hope that most of the individuals in the Iraqi populace remain so faceless that no one can pin it on a few specific cocky murderous troops and mercs like BlackWater. Who can blame the citizens for wanting to string ‘em up? We’d all be outraged if it happened here by an occupying military that was supposed to be our vindicators by delivering us from a tyrant.
This is the story that many an innocent soldier is dying to tell about how a so called “war for liberation” became a killing field for western domination. Excuse me, but how many millions of Iraqi casualties have been reported since 2003? Are we to believe that all of those people were actual enemy insurgents and leftover Republican Guard? To quote our Commander-In-Chief: “Sounds like some fuzzy math to me.” Another wicked symptom of an unjust war…started on lies and a major false flag “provocation.”
December 9th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
they deserve the death penalty !
December 9th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Oh yeah, I forgot to include the Iraqi recruits for the liberation front, but still, no way that adds up to millions…
December 10th, 2008 at 2:04 am
Scary, yes–and they are here, everywhere, and well-armed. But–FEAR HIM, I SAY–FEAR
GOD–NOT MAN–OR YOU’LL LOSE BOTH YOUR LIFE AND YOUR SOUL.–THE EARLY
AMERICAN PATRIOTS DID, for the most part. ER.
December 10th, 2008 at 5:02 am
this story is fabricated, it was jihadist posing as blackwater, what a shame this poor americans have to pay for jihadist lies.
December 10th, 2008 at 5:43 am
http://www.falsebeliefs.com
December 10th, 2008 at 6:46 am
weaponised bird-flu will kill billions…..
no food,no money, microchipped everyone….
the satanic elite know their master and his enemy….
this is not a game, your soul is at stake
watch the 2 minute video on http://www.survivalistseeds.com
take care and be safe
Steve
contactable on stevenbatman AT gmail.com
December 10th, 2008 at 7:21 am
Groups like blackwater (private security/military contractors) hire ex-cons or current criminals. They are hired from prison/gangs and the like, so do not be surprised, on the contrary, expect them to do immoral things, that’s the whole point, their goal is to be provocateurs under the guys of security/military. No need for CIAda doing covert operations, just send black-water openly identified do the false-flag ops totally in the open but call them “security intervention” or “operation angel hug” or “operation heart of joy”.
December 10th, 2008 at 7:55 am
They Deserve the Death Penalty and should be sent back to Iraq for Trial .
Killing WOmen and Kids SMH >>>>>>
Karma my friends it exist.
December 10th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Why don’t they go to trial in iraq. That would be more fair.
December 10th, 2008 at 10:34 am
LOL what the f--- is attempted manslaughter? how can u attempt to accidentally kill someone?
December 10th, 2008 at 11:24 am
If you go to this web site, http://www.LetsSayThanks.com you can pick out a thank
you card and Xerox will print it and it will be sent to a soldier that is
currently serving in Iraq . You can’t pick out who gets it, but it will go
to a member of the armed services.
you can add a private message, tell the troops to go to Infowars and to see Loose Change and that Ben Ladin is dead and they are at war for a future global government
December 10th, 2008 at 11:33 am
#8 “Elvis”
We would all understand why you write what you write when you tell us where you are from. Stop dicking around like a pussy. Otherwise, get the f--- out of here and go kill yourself, because no one likes you and you shouldn’t like yourself either.
December 10th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
#44 Mark you are full of it bro. Blackwater contractors a subjected to a thorough backround check by the State Department. You cannot work for BW if you are an ex-con or have a criminal history. Blackwater contractors are held to high moral standards. That is the truth. Whether or not these contractors have done wrong will be determined by a jury and not by half wits like you. I am amazed at the low grade individuals that comment on this site. You call yourselves patriots and defenders of the Constitution but you talk like people that get their info from tabloids. None of you that make these bold comments were there that day so shut the f--- up!
December 10th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
these men are criminals to the core as well as the rest of Blackwater/KRB and the rest of the corporite men who hire them out to kill around the world- look at their sick twisted masters- aka Bush – Cheney – Rumsfield- Clintons (Both) Carter – Reagon- etc etc etc
December 10th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
“a violation of human rights”… wait so if there werent human rights protecting life, then this act wouldnt be wrong? when people make stupid comment it pisses me off. how about forgetting the f---ing law for a second and looking at the facts. people were murdered like animals but we are all so robotic our sense of morals has transferred into “what the law says is right”
i might be nitpicking but so the f--- what/!?!
December 10th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I’m sure (for appearances) the Rent-a-Thug service has a written code full of altruisms for their conduct and the screening process…so does the military of course. But even they are breeching those codes recently by hiring illegal immigrants and foreigners and ex-cons. What do you think movies like the Dirty Dozen and XXX are hinting around about? Sure, that’s more like CIA and NSA black ops, but it’s pouring over into special ops and into the troops. The wriiten clues are out there.
Why would that be so hard to believe after everything else NorthCom has pulled lately in the name of America but under the agenda of the NWO hegemony? They test nerve agents on the troops, they test radiation on the troops, they sacrifice them like pawns whenever needed. They tell them all to stand down as they watch a planned mission of self assault with jet liners one morning seven years ago. These guys knew damn well they could stop this thing in ample time after the confusion of the drills had cleared up. A bogey was headed for the Pentagon and the VP power usurper said “stand down gentlemen.” What possible personal advantage would Norman Mineta have to gain by testifying to that? You could tell he didn’t really want to admit it.
Remember about 6 years ago when the White House released the story about an illegal Mexican who snuck into our military and valiantly fought in the Gulf War? They decided to give him honorary citizenship and were acting like his was a single case. I got news. They weren’t throwing us a dime’s worth of truth back then, because there were already thousands of illegals in the military at that point.
Look, they terrorized in Katrina. Taking guns and NOT bringing help. They’ve murdered in Iraq. They’ve bad mouthed Citizens here. They’ve accosted the elderly in their own homes. And they didn’t even have a Constitutional right to pose any authority then and there while taking all those people’s 2nd amendment rights away in their homes.
Black Water has nothing but ugliness in their track record. Mercenaries usually do. All they are is Worldwide Rent-a-Thug Incorporated.
December 10th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
It looks like those iraqis were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
December 11th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Mr. twocows, of course any security/military contractor, like the federal sectors have their hypocrytical rules and screening stages because, as you say, it is a requirement for them to be allowed to exist, because this is what the laws state; it is only a strategic move to allow them to exist and run. This however is only appearances, bureaucracy, paperwork. All of this is what’s layed on the table, but the way things really work is under the table. I do not mean this in any derogatory manner, but you are naive. Do not fall for what things are presented to you, that’s how deception works, it’s the underlying principle; put a deceitful image to hide the real appearance. If you call what they lay down for you knowledge, you know nothing, it’s all garabge. The real knowledge is what you have to tire yourself just to look for, nevermind learn it.
My real argument is this: what anyone says does not matter, the events speak for themselves, reality shows the reality of how things work. The NWO minions hope to deceive you by making sure you know that the contractors have a pile of strict screening stages, but if that were true, you would never hear about such cases as blackwater doing criminal deeds. Therefore, the actions of its employees demonstrates who they hire and sheds a clear light upon what screening is really going on.
December 11th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
What Blackwater is doing in Iraq is exactly what Blackwater did during Katrina. That is why Bush ordered a media blackout just days after the levees were detonated. To date 9,000 are still “missing” from the New Orleans area. Where did they go? Over 1,000,000 million Iraqi civilians are now missing in Iraq. Where did they go?
December 11th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
More US War Crimes when is it gonna end? Enough already.
Apparently they are doing the same in Afghanistan. However anyone who picks a fight with Afghans is asking for a one way ticket to HELL!
Presently they are getting their asses kicked their that is why they sent patreus over there thinking he can sought things out like he did in Iraq.
Boy is he gonna get a rude shock.
Afghanistan is not Iraq.
BECAUSE AFGHAN FIGHTERS ALWAYS AVENGE THEIR LOVED ONES!
No one has won a war against the mighty afghans in 5000 years!
The sooner the US and NATO get it through their the thick skulls the better it is for all of us.
December 12th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
For most of you history only began 8 years ago. You are so ignorant, since the beginning of time nations have hired private and governmental mercenaries during times of war. IE. the american revolution the British used the Hetians (germans). If you think for one second that we would be showed such courtesy surrendering then you are naive. That is why we will loose this fight with the NWO and the extremists, because we are such cowards. In war there is only total war. We have been fighting with one hand behind our backs since Korea. American war crimes lol please i hope there is a draft then you people will see what real war crimes is all about, when you get captured and no quarter is given to you at all. The american military does more to thwart civilian casualties than anyone in the world. You all want to hate America and bash us? Well i wish we would pull all of our troops out of all the hotspots on the earth and then lets see Europe take care of its own backyard. For all of America’s problems, at least give respect that we have defended you for the past 60 years. A bunch of appeasers and let me tell you America has had it with the world. We do everything for everyone, we give the most aid, military assistance, donations than anyone and look how we are repaid. Sound off like you’ve got a pair.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Tim,
I agree please write to your president to pull American forces out of everywhere immediately!!!
See if he will listen. He won’t.
Do you know why because being a big imperialist nation is one of the greatest ego power trips that the citizens of any nation can have.
Don’t believe me?
Just ask the British. Not all though
But there is a good chunk who wish they had their Empire back to regain their self confidence which they have lost ever since they lost Empire.
The big question is can Americans continue to feel good about themselves when they lose their Empire. Hopefully Soon.
January 8th, 2009 at 3:19 am
Crime or not, who is paying them to be there. Its okay to give the OK to drop bombs like crazy and kill innocent human beings.
How is it other tyrants face war crimes, and the US Commander and Chief slides away.