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Bloomberg Says Russia to Go After Ukraine Next
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Henry Meyer
Bloomberg
August 13, 2008
Now that Russia has humiliated Georgia with a punishing military offensive, it may shift its attention to reining in pro-Western Ukraine, another American ally in the former Soviet Union.
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Moving to counter any threat, Ukraine President Viktor Yushchenko today restricted the movement of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, based in the port of Sevastopol, citing national security.
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s first order of business in confronting Ukraine likely will be to try to thwart its bid to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
“The Moscow authorities will use this opportunity to remind Ukraine of the damages of allying itself with NATO,” said Geoffrey Smith at Renaissance Capital investment bank in Kiev.
The U.S. has long seen Georgia and Ukraine as counterweights to Russia’s influence in the region. Opposition leaders in the two countries came to power after U.S.-backed popular protests in 2003 and 2004. Their ascension advanced an American strategy of expanding NATO to include both countries and securing energy routes from the Caspian Sea that bypass Russia. The BP Plc-led Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline to Turkey runs through Georgia.
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August 13th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I wanted to read the whole article …
August 13th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
As Pres. Reagan said: Here we Go AgAiN.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Go Russia Go!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
This is all pre-cursers to WW3 and trying to get Russia to have fighting on several fronts. And to engulf the whole world in war. They want to exterminate us! Please WAKE UP……Im begging you.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Wow that is some ugly mug on the main page of bloomberg!
No country needs to go anywhere,we all just need to learn to get along!
Why cant we all just get along anyway?…
Peaceful talks would produce great things Im sure of it!
No country needs to be the policemen of the world!
Maybe we all(everywhere around the world) could turn the internment camps into homes for the homeless and residential care facilities?…
Sorry if Im out of place a little bitt,but I just would like to see peace on earth and goodwill toward man& woman and children!
August 13th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
americanization (capitalism)= many for one and one against many.
it takes mns of people to make billionaires and one billionaire to screw one million people.
russia and china want to protect their children from just that.
capitalists want to protect billionaires and their children.
that’s why russia and china must go. encyrclememt of china and russia begun decades ago. now the pressure is on in order to erode/destroy china’s and russian will to protect all of their people and not just 5% of chosen ones.
and, chinese and russians are mighty pleased. shame on yushchenko; he’s abandoning his people. thank you.
August 13th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....npoINDzcPU
August 13th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
what was wrong with that guy’s face in the pic?
August 13th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Go Russia Go,yippee!!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
If you haven’t seen it yet, check out “Hijacking Catastrophy” on Google…it’s a couple years old but man are the things predicted by the interviewed guests ever now (two years later) coming to pass!
http://video.google.com/videop.....&hl=en
August 13th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
The article in question
Russia May Focus on Pro-U.S. Ukraine After Georgia (Update5)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/.....poINDzcPU#
By Henry Meyer
Aug. 13 (Bloomberg) — Now that Russia has humiliated Georgia with a punishing military offensive, it may shift its attention to reining in pro-Western Ukraine, another American ally in the former Soviet Union.
Moving to counter any threat, Ukraine President Viktor Yushchenko today restricted the movement of Russia’s Black Sea fleet, based in the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol, citing national security. The Foreign Ministry in Moscow denounced the decision as a “serious, new anti-Russian step.”
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s first order of business in confronting Ukraine likely will be to try to thwart its bid to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
“We still don’t know who’s next,” said former Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze, who was foreign minister under the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, who helped end the Cold War. “Ukraine most likely,” because of its Russian- speaking population and naval base in the Crimea, Shevardnadze said in an interview today.
The U.S. has long seen Georgia and Ukraine as counterweights to Russia’s influence in the region. Opposition leaders in the two countries came to power after U.S.-backed popular protests in 2003 and 2004. Their ascension advanced an American strategy that seeks to expand NATO to include both countries and secure energy routes from the Caspian Sea that bypass Russia. The BP Plc-led Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline to Turkey runs through Georgia.
Policy in Doubt
The future effectiveness of that policy is now in doubt, with Georgia’s U.S.-educated president, Mikheil Saakashvili, 40, weakened by a five-day blitz that his American patrons were powerless to halt.
Medvedev, 42, and Putin, 56, say Russia began the offensive in response to a drive by Georgia to restore control over the breakaway region of South Ossetia. Now Russia has ousted Georgian forces from there and from Abkhazia, another separatist region, and destroyed much of the central government’s military.
“Georgia will be enormously more careful in its actions in the future, and much less confident of its relationship with the United States,” U.S.-based geopolitical advisory group Stratfor said in a research note.
NATO is scheduled to review the two countries’ bids to join the Western military alliance in December. NATO leaders in April promised Ukraine and Georgia eventual membership while declining them fast-track status. Russia, which has also denounced U.S. plans to station missile defense sites in former Soviet satellites Poland and the Czech Republic, says the expansion of the Cold War-era alliance to its borders is a security threat.
`Similar Fate’
NATO should affirm the potential of Georgia and Ukraine to become alliance members in the face of Russia’s incursion into Georgia, senior U.S. officials said yesterday in Washington.
“Russia may find it convenient to raise the level of tension with Ukraine in the run-up to the December NATO review,” Citigroup Inc.’s London-based David Lubin and Ali Al- Eyd wrote in a note to clients. “If the conflict with Russia decelerates or reverses Georgia’s integration with the West, a similar fate could also affect Ukraine.”
Ukraine, a country of 46 million people that’s almost as big as France, has a large Russian-speaking population in the south and east that opposes NATO entry and looks to Moscow. Russian officials warn that if Yushchenko pushes Ukraine into NATO, the nation may split in two. Russia has made its displeasure with Ukraine clear, temporarily cutting off gas supplies to the country 2 1/2 years ago and reducing deliveries last March.
Show of Solidarity
Yushchenko, 54, yesterday flew to the Georgian capital Tbilisi to show solidarity with Saakashvili along with the leaders of four ex-Communist eastern European nations that joined NATO as a bulwark against Russia.
Today, he cited national security needs when he insisted Russia’s Black Sea fleet coordinate its movements with Ukranian authorities. Russia has leased the port since 1991, and ships from there took part in hostilities against Georgia.
“The previous liberalized regime for Russian fleet movements gave the opportunity for Russia to cross Ukrainian state borders and to move across the Ukrainian part of the Black Sea without any control,” Yushchenko said in a decree, published on his Web site.
`A Warning’
The military operation in Georgia will serve “as a warning” to Ukraine that it should desist from petitioning for NATO entry, said Janusz Bugajski, director of the New European Democracies Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “Otherwise, Moscow may intervene to protect the allegedly threatened interests of the Russian population.”
Russian Emergency Minister Sergei Shoigu today rounded on Ukraine for its public support of Georgia in the conflict.
“One week before these events, we send a column of humanitarian aid to Ukraine to help flood victims and the next we find they’re offering military aid, arms for the destruction of civilians,” Shoigu told reporters in Moscow.
Germany and France opposed NATO entry for Georgia, a country of 4.6 million people that is almost as big as the U.S. state of South Carolina, and Ukraine because of the Georgian separatist disputes and opposition to membership among some Ukrainians. They now will feel their concerns have been justified, said Cliff Kupchan of New-York based Eurasia Group, a political risk consulting firm.
NATO Membership
“Considering both European reticence and possible fears about Ukraine, I think it is very much on the slow track,” he said, referring to NATO membership for both states.
The assault by Russian artillery, tanks and bombers inflicted significant damage on Georgia’s armed forces, which last month increased their size to 37,000 soldiers. Russia’s military has 1.13 million personnel. The U.S. trained and equipped Georgia’s military and in 2006 approved almost $300 million in aid over five years.
Ukraine has about 214,000 soldiers, which include 84,000 paramilitary troops, according to the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies.
“A substantial part of our military power has been destroyed,” said Georgian National Security Council chief Kakha Lomaia. “However, we did preserve the core of our army, and have managed to regroup it close to the capital.”
An airbase in Senaki was destroyed and three Georgian ships were blown up in the Black Sea port of Poti, he said.
Base Bombed
A month ago, about 1,000 U.S. soldiers joined 600 Georgians and 100 from Ukraine, Azerbaijan and Armenia in joint exercises at the Vaziani military base near Tbilisi. Russia repeatedly bombed the base during this month’s war.
“The American role in the region has been weakened,” Jan Techau, a European and security affairs analyst at the German Council on Foreign Relations in Berlin, said in an interview. “It’s a reassertion of Russia’s dominant role in the region.”
Ian Hague, a Bank of Georgia board member and fund manager with $1.8 billion in the former Soviet Union, said the attack on Georgia discouraged Western investments in energy infrastructure by raising the risk premium.
“It’s somewhat reminiscent, in 1939, when Stalin attacked Finland,” former U.S. national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told Bloomberg Television. “I think this kind of confrontation is the best kind of answer as to why they are seeking to be members of NATO.”
To contact the reporter on this story: Henry Meyer in Moscow at Hmeyer4@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: August 13, 2008 14:05 EDT
August 13th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
The guy on the picture is Viktor Yushchenko who was poisoned in an attempted assassination.
He is the Ukraine President.
He must be quaking in his boots.
August 13th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Wow…
August 13th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Zzzzzzz They will not attack.
August 13th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Long Live HERO Putin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who SMASHED Napoleon! RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Russian Troops Stormed PARIS!
Who CRUSHED Hitler! RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Russian Troops Stormed BERLIN! Destroyed 100 NAZI Scum divisions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Long Live Hero Putin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The HOPE of the World!
13*
August 13th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
f--- bloomberg.
August 13th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Russia is the most powerful Country in the world today. It’s got the military, it’s got the money BUT……not the mass media. That’s their weak point. The result will be that everyone is going to unite against Russia, of course the ones who will pay will unfortunately be the neighbouring countries. Russia is suffocating from the issolation and want’s to move fast. People from my country, as in many nations, are sick and tired of allying with big forces. Just to give you some historic info only Greece and Serbia fought and resisted Hitler and Mousolini in the beggining of WW2 (Russia and England came latter) and what did we get? Just suffering, pain and mass murders. The NWO forces will hit each other, it’s a matter of time, but whoever get’s involved this time between their way will pay a price that no country deserves to pay……
August 13th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
LONG LIVE PUTIN!!!!
August 13th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Lets see Russia take back the entire region which is rightfully theirs and tell the Americans to take a hike or get a big fat nuke
August 13th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Well it really matters not what russia does because they are a part of the new world order plan, their leaders are pupets like ours, and the World Bank controls all. It is all controlled through England, so no matter what happens.
Hell look at WWII, the banks gave both sides money and this is how the elites do it, but the public is too stupid to research it, and would rather get their news from the T.V.
Oh well we can only sit and watch, and pas on the info and hope that folks will wake up.
August 13th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
This is REALLY IT.
Body: This IS the trigger to start WW-3. If you do not believe this READ MORE.
(PASSAGE FROM NEWS)
Though they are only going on a humanitarian mission, Bush made a point of noting that “we will use U.S. aircraft, as well as naval forces” to distribute supplies. He warned Russia not to impede relief efforts in any way.
HE f---ING WARNED RUSSIA??? (BALLS OF STEEL)
HE IS USING NAVY SHIPS???? (SUICIDE)
He is going to get 75% of this country KILLED.
This STUPID MOTHERf---ER AND HIS THUG CABINET NEEDS TO BE PUT DOWN LIKE THE RABID DOGS THEY ARE!
I give this less than 1 month. So I SINCERELY HOPE that you are all spending every penny you get on weapons and ammo.
This is the Queen Mother of ALL OF HIS NUMEROUS f--- UPS
RUSSIA WILL EAT US FOR DINNER.
AND CHINA WILL BE RIGHT THERE AS WELL! Oh and you can fully expect IRAN to be in on the action!
FINAL WARNING.
CHECK MATE.
WE LOOSE.
August 13th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
I am kind of surprised that we aren’t seeing more “The Sons of Gog and Ma-Gog” biblical talk on here. For centuries, it has been assumed that the peoples referred to in Ezekiel were the Russians living north of the Caucus States, with the “gate which holds them until doomsday” being the Gate that Alexander the Great erected to stop barbarians from the Russian steppe from invading what is currently Georgia.
Of course we weren’t going to help Georgia. There is a word we use to describe the Georgian Democracy… Bait. The US wanted Russia invloved in its own sh**storm before we attack their ally Iran in the next month or two.
Putin is STILL KGB. You don’t just stop being KGB, then rise to power, instead, you use the KGB on your way up.
The last time we saw all the major news networks voice the same opinions on something, the way they are doing with the Russian invasion? When they pushed the Iraq War, 6 or 7 years ago. Ill omen there.
August 13th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Wow, “This is REALLY IT” and “RUSSIA WILL EAT US FOR DINNER.” Are you concerned about their nuclear arsenal or do you think they plan on showing up your doorstep? Less than a month? This is so scary, I am almost as scared as I was in 1999 waiting for the clock to change.
August 13th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Have you guys ever seen this movie. Assasination of Russia False Flag Russian Style?
http://video.google.com/videop.....9489507026
Man if you thought the world was crazy before. Watch this video.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Yeah… But the Russian military generals also have been on record stating that they have been given orders to use nuclear weapons if needed on any foreign military power that would threaten their allies. This means that the west better get that message loud and clear, as Russia plus China equal much more military strength than all of NATO combined.
August 14th, 2008 at 12:27 am
im sorry you feel that way i think your crazy did you see any of the video feeds from the conflict maybe you didn’t notice the equipment the russians are using? i was watching and wondering just how fast abrams m1 battle tanks and f22 raptors would cut right through that collection of outdated crap and i realized not long! its stupid pussy motherf---ers like you that will get us all killed checkmate final warning go hide under your mama’s skirt your like that guy in the movies that freeks out when the bad stuff is going down saying we’re all going to we’re all going to die you know that guy allways gets it first gird up your loins o man of pussy get over it !!!
August 14th, 2008 at 1:44 am
Soon you people will realize this site is run by the Russian propoganda machine meant to divide America at it’s roots. They used and abused our rights to free speech to plant the seeds of suspicion in their game that is now unfolding in front of us. And all you people on here that beleive in every minute thing that Alex and PrisonPlanet reports have fell right into place for them. You pawns you, how sad it is.
You people think that the Russians with all their hardware was able to just rush in at a moments notice wasn’t planned? It takes months upon months to make the logistics possibe for this to happen. This was a well calculated attack and they timed it just right with the Olympics while the sleeping people of America was distracted.
And all the paranioia that they fed you from sites likes this kept you all asleep also. Did you ever see Alex posting any articles about what Russia was up to? No you didn’t because he is the Russian propoganda machine for the USA. Keep you blind and dumb to what’s really going on is the name of the game.
If you don’t think Putin is a smart well calculating man then now you know better. He is doing the same thing Hitler did pre WW2. Giving passports to those who want Russian citizenship and therefore justifying his actions of what he done in order to protect the people. All you people do on here is say “Wake up!! Wake up!!” but yet you were asleep.
You all yell about FEMA camps and Martial Law going to happen. Well your right, it is going to happen but not the reasons the propoganda machine is feeding you to think. They were put there is preperation for what is going to happen, to help you guys not exterminate you!
War is coming people and FAST!! Russia knows we are going to attack Iran and they went into Georgia first under lunatic ideas of protecting their people so they can have a very good logistical route into the Middle East thru Turkey going south. Iran will attack Turkey heading north when our fleet arrives and then Russia will lay it all out and attack our transport planes now delivering humanitarian aid carving their path.
Russia will invade Ukrain and Turkey, China will invade Taiwan then India then Japan, North Korea will invade South Korea and Iran will wipe out Israel.
All this will be done by people whom you said we should talk to and “Just be freinds” They are not your freinds, NEVER will be and NEVER has been!!!!!
August 14th, 2008 at 2:19 am
Revealed #28, your assertions don’t jive, friend. Basic observation shows that the persons working in the war industry will do nothing to remove the butter that spreads on their bread but, more importantly, Alex Jones is irrelevant to them. There is no “danger” of AJ creating a rotting from within. AJ’s truth telling without the backing of power is like sprinkling fairy dust on a dying patient. The USA will die through her own allegiance to murder and greed rather than via a Russian plot that employs AJ. Lukewarm try at disinfo though..
As to the battle in Georgia, you obviously have no military experience or knowledge of the Russian preparations with full anticipation of the Georgian assault. Perhaps read from the following sources and rethink your inane allegations. Haaretz.com- U.S. puts brakes on Israeli plan for attack on Iran nuclear facilities. Ynet.com- War in Georgia, the Israeli Connection. Jerusalem Post- What is the conflict in Georgia really about?” sixth paragraph down- “Georgia and Russia have been in a state of detente for years now – so what drove the Georgian government of Mikhail Saakashailli to set a match to the tinder-box against such an overwhelmingly dominant opponent? Zhianov maintains Georgia was merely defending its territorial integrity, but leaves unexplained the simple fact that Georgia started the fight this time around.”
August 14th, 2008 at 3:47 am
revealed ,WOW you are f---ING STUPID,let me guess russia has kgb operatives working for infowars ,PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE AND JUST WALK AWAY.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:49 am
soon revealed will realize that the illuminati infests EVERY NATION,we are SLAVES for the NWO.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:51 am
and how do FEMA camps help us ANNA or is it JASMINE today ????sorry i mean revealed to be a crack head.
August 14th, 2008 at 3:57 am
Will the press make up its f’n mind about this. Quote from CNN headline about 1/2 hour ago.
“South Ossetia has been the focus of Russian-Georgian fighting that began late last week after Georgia launched a military incursion into South Ossetia in an effort to rout rebels.”
Well soon as the press has it’s head out of ass. Not to mention the utter lack of headlining our troops there already. Or bush’s one liner. Bother what a mess.
August 14th, 2008 at 5:58 am
what is this go Russia go s---! if there ever is a Russian invasion what are you going to side with them?I know that governments start wars pushed by the banksters. but when the s---s starts I have no choice I will fight and die with my own people brainwashed as they are. If your brother starts a fight and he is drunk being an asshole and starts getting his ass kicked what do you do? I jump in and save his ass. and all my brothers would do the same for me. real American families fight together no matter the politics
August 14th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Hey just listened to your radio show, unfortunitly what I’ve had the misfortune to learn over the years, is that when your doing something essentially right and/or good in the world and trying to make a difference, thats when people will try and knock you over or defame you or ridicule you the most and with vehemence , but I guess the good thing about that, is that it is confirmation that you are doing, usually, the exact right thing you should be doing. So again God bless you Alex, keep on keeping on brother, your in many peoples prayers and thoughts around the world, God bless and protect you and your family!
August 14th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Zbigniew Brzezinski told Bloomberg Television. “I think this kind of confrontation is the best kind of answer as to why they are seeking to be members of NATO.” This Zbig dude is the same guy who has written book about starting WWIII by having client states of the U.S. attack Russia. And this is who Bloomberg quotes last–as if he is guy who deserves to get the last word! Will someone in the main stream media please stand up and offer a different alternative-view. No, I guess not. Good thing we have Alex Jones.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Perhaps Alex Jones is right, maybe this is what they wanted to
happen from the beginning… Zbigniew Brzezinski told Bloomberg
Television. “I think this kind of confrontation is the best kind of answer
as to why they are seeking to be members of NATO.”
If you looking for the MOTIVE, this could be it.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Russia Today reports that Russia doubts it will be part of the World Trade Organization after it’s coverage in the western and european media.
To watch Russia Today online, go to: http://streaming.visionip.tv/Russia_Today
August 14th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Its time the world and the USA woke up to the NWO,here in Great Britain we have been forced into joining the EUSSR ,the only things is it not run by Russia,but by NWO communists and Zionists who wish to destroy our tiny Isle and our Indigenous people.
We were promised a referendum as to if we wanted to be ruled by the BRUSSELS led EUSSR or not by T BLIAR,but now traitor Brown has refused us a referendum,he does not think we are intelligent enough to vote for what we the British people want, the thing is NO ONE IN ENGLAND HAS EVER VOTED FOR THE SCOTTISH TRAITOR BROWN,AND EVEN HIS OWN SCOTTISH PEOPLE HATE HIM NORTH OF THE BORDER.
I have the upmost respect for the American people,I was even married to a US service man,my four children are half American,but it breaks my heart to see US and British servicemen killed in all these foreign unwanted wars,these BRAVE young men are not being slaughtered to save the USA and Great Britain,they are being SACRIFICED by the evil people who are the NWO and evil Zionists and whose only wish is to enslave and rule the world .
It is time for the USA and Great Britain to say NO MORE,NO MORE OF OUR BRAVE YOUNG MEN WILL BE SENT TO BE SLAUGHTERED,didnt we lose enough of our brave young men ,now turning in their graves in WW1 and WW2,AND FOR WHAT????TO SEE THEIR DESCENDANTS TURNED INTO SLAVES FOR THE FAT GREEDY PIGS WITH THEIR SNOUTS IN THE NEVER ENDING TROUGH OF THE ZIONIST NWO.
The ILLUMINATI do infest every nation today,they are behind every war in the world today,they grow fat and rich on the sale of weapons and death ,they control all elections in all governments world wide,they pick the candidate whom they want ,we the people dont.
Iraq,Iran,Georgia why should young brave American boys be killed fighting for these far off lands which AMERICA owes no ALLEGIANCE to ,just because our NWO ZIONIST LORDS WISH TO GROW FATTER STILL ON THE BLOOD OF YOUNG AMERICAN MEN BEING DAILY LED TO THE MASS SLAUGHTER.
WAKE UP AMERICA,WAKE UP GREAT BRITAIN ,WAKE UP WORLD, NO MORE BLOODSHED FOR THE NWO ,NO MORE ZIONIST WARS,LET THEM SHED THEIR OWN BLOOD,
FREE WE ARE NOT FREE,WE WILL NEVER BE FREE,WE ARE ALL SLAVES TO ZIONISM AND THE NWO
August 14th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
pauline
right on babe, but we are not slaves, we are just under a bit of pressure at the mo, we will have our day, we will bring these mo fukkas down , chin up.
August 14th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Get it RIGHT! Bilderbergers hate Communists-Communists hate Bilderbergers! Stop saying there is any link- it is a lie, and when you spread it, you become the same as all the reactionary swine who hate us so much they’d say ANYTHING to insult us. WE do not sit down with these Freaks and Perverts-why are you slandering us? Is it a hang-over from Macarthyism? Do You still want to blame us for everything that’s bad? The Rosenbergs paid the ultimate price for being Communists, millions of Communist, Left-Wingers and just anti-Fascists were jailed, lost jobs, were beaten suffered in all kinds of ways Some of Americas’ best and brightest ( like Arthur Miller the writer),and too many academics, actors, political activists to mention. All innocent victims of anti-Communism. If you’re really worried about the New World Order (I am) then realise WE have Always been fighting it, because it’s driven by Capitalism/Imperialism and since when did WE support that? Don’t alienate us–In fighting the, NWO were on the same side.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Val Cardwell,you say its not communists,wake up dear smell the coffee,the whole Labour government of Great Britain are ardent foaming at the mouth full on communists.
All in their younger days were rabid communist party members and are not afraid today to admit it,come on dear we all know a leopard never changes its spots,as for the USA I know nothing of your Governments past,but speak only of what I know of the Labour Government we have today in the UK,A government run by traitors whose only wish is to destroy our Isle ,and hand over control as soon as they can to the equally communist run EU,
We British people have been sold out to communism,our land has been stolen from under our feet,we are to be ruled from Brussels,along with the rabid french dog Sarkozy.
We British have been denied a referendum on if we want to be in the EU or not,in defiance of the rules of the land,laid down in the ancient laws of The Magna Carta,on June 15,1215 made by King John,which to this day have never been repealed,and which will be wiped away from the pages of history ,for once the European Union take control of our ancient Isle, England as a nation no longer will be, we are to be renamed the Regions of Europe,now tell me we are not ruled by communism and tell me we are not slaves.
Once Europe is in control we will no longer have any British army,navy or police and will not be allowed to make our own laws all will be ruled by the EUSSR,We have been sold out big time by the traitors in the Labour Government, and the same is coming to you in the USA once you are the united countries of Mexico,USA,Canada and I believe the whole of south America if I am not wrong,
August 14th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
41. Could you possibly any get any stupider? Obviously you never played chess.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:58 am
It took almost half the olympics for CNN to start showing half the truth about Georgia-USA’s atrocities. Fox’s still into Edward’s soap opera.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:01 am
They planned this during the olympics while everybody is distracted. Scumbags. And Bloomberg, you are a scumbag. And Your radio station Bloomberg 11 three oh is nothing but propaganda. It reveals no truth to the real nature of the economy.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:50 am
Ms Pauline Price, just for your information; I’m Welsh, have lived in London 20 odd years and therefore know it quite well! I’ve never been to Yankee- land. I am a lifetime Communist, and proud of it but Britain is a Fascist hole,under Blairs’ Bilderberger party. You appear to be living in a paralell-universe, because all I percieve is oppression and a Fascist Big Brother society where a simple Anti-War demo involves innocent people getting their heads smashed in! Also, I don’t think you’ll find anyone who thinks the little Fascist Sarkoy anything but a Racist, faithful servant of the Ultra-Right.
August 15th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Man it’s gonna be one cold winter in Ukraine when Russia turns off those pipeline valves! BRRRR!!!!
August 15th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Does the former republican/democrat/independent Bloomberg sound jewish? He is, and he`s a millionaire. Think he is an international spoiler like George Soros ( the anti christ )
August 15th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Its kind of funny bush and putin were meeting the morning of the georgian invasion in bejing.
I wonder what they were talking about?
http://posmedprod.webs.com/georgiawar.htm
August 16th, 2008 at 2:23 am
I must of missed something some where. Val Cardwell. YOU BETTER LEARN WHO’S BEHIND ALL THESE WARS AND WHO GETS THE MONEY MADE FROM WARS. The Bilderburgs don’t hate communists. They love ALL governments. They make BILLIONS of dollars funding their wars. BOTH SIDES. So your the one who NEEDS to get it right. Because of this FACT, the builderburgs CONTROL ALL governments that require funds to function on. After all, they are some of the share holders that (in parts), own the banks of the worlds banking cartels. In absolute truth, It’s not even about money to them anymore. It’s all about POWER. People need to learn to look BEYOND the obvious and see the truth. What Pauline Price is saying here is that the British Isles feel pray to this communistic organized arrangement that was called the Europeon union that is modeled after the same blueprint that the U.S.S.R. was constructed from Russian design. Also that North American nations are now or soon to be, looking at the same Problem, conceived by the same people, for the same reasons, to be happening to us.
Can’t you hear the grief in her words about it. I can.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Yes the Russians will go after Ukraine next as they are gathering up all their little bear cubs for the final fight against the American/European New World Order!! And we Patriot Americans AND THE BLIND AMERICANS are caught up right in the middle of it!! I HAVE NEVER NEVER SAID THAT WE ARE NOT TO FIGHT!! I HAVE ALWAYS SAID THAT GOD WILL GIVE US THE VICTORY AS WE FIGHT!! And fight we shall as the Russians and the Chinese will see an opportunity to attack us IF WE HAVE A CIVIL WAR!! AND WHAT WILL CAUSE US TO HAVE A REVOLUTION!!?? A HUGE BANK COLLAPSE!!
August 16th, 2008 at 10:50 am
With a near total media blackout of the events in Ossetia on August 8th, we have evidence that our “once-free” republic has been taken over by a global fascist CABAL.
August 17th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Whether the choice is John, Obama or your mama, Americans will just get screwed,
Each a front man and a European crime boss, of the gang who came in 1492.
The joke of jokes Rick Warren like Joel Osteen, try to help distract and confuse,
These pharisees of the Modern Day whom would steal from Jesus his shoes.
The hoarding of wealth and glorifying any man is Anti-Christian and a blatant lie,
Yet crooks are each and every one, long thieving so still they do now try,
To convince the flock of sheepish people whom have been raped by each crook,
Is told about in their own words and in The Only King’s Good Book!
How many children went without in the South while Rick Warren built big mansions,
Gluttonous in his physically and loud in his mouth–a clean-cut clone of Charles Manson?
Cultish are the fools whom follow this fraud down his fleecing deceptive path.
How much did Jesus take, how much did he GIVE…..heck, just so the math!
The whole freemason con game, preachers, lawyers, cops, politicians and judges too,
Prove that men are but monkeys and they belong locked up in a monkey zoo.
Yet such is the planet, the prison from which no thief like these escapes,
Soon I know, the wine will flow and these are just the sourest of the grapes.
A cult is a cult, crime is crime, and a con is a con as each nation has always been,
These pastors and posers not acceptable to Heaven and shall never be allowed in.
Steal what you can in your earthly plan, it is not thine to keep and you know it,
The children of GOD, know this con so odd, and watch you as you show it!
So, pimp puppet president 44 or 99, each just a spokesperson for European crime,
It started her in 1492, and is still ongoing at this very day and through all this time.
The criminals with fairytale title, their pitchmen steal from GOD in all these churches,
Such is not the Christian Way, as each deceives you and GOD himself besmirches.
Their fame, the game, the shame of their claim, none to become gloriously exalted,
GOD watches from behind them warning “Don’t Look Back” as all shall become salted.
Crystallized some would say, if some remain when the harvesting has been sown,
Yet these my child, con men run wild, are not children Jesus shall claim to have known!
August 17th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
For the benefit of ROSS; First, Pauline Price is a Moron with her head up her arse. Secondly you are not logical or probably, going by your post even sane. The Bilderbergers ARE WESTERN ORIENTATED! All their plotting is to put a Neo-Con regime as the engine, the vanguard to make over the rest of the world in ITS image. Why don’t you read the Neo Con/Bilderberg “bible” “New American Century”, it’s all there, even a person of your limited grey matter MIGHT understand it. You see, the world being mostly all capitalist(that’s why things are so crap) everyone has to deal in one way or another, with banks. However, THAT doesn’t make them all fans of the NWO. Iran is changing it’s currancy and Islamic banks in Iran, and in ALL solidly Islamic countrys, no banks can charge or pay interest and there are no market forces. That is the aim of all genuine Communist countries too, like Venezuela, Bolivia, Ecuador and of course Cuba. Dont forget also that some years ago Argentina on refusing to obey the black-mailing WTO,were trading in kind when their banks were confiscated by these swine. They continued this until they got a fairer deal. Do you think all these people are Bilderbergers? Get this- all bankers are not Bilderburgers, they’re a very elite group and only SOME faces fit. Remenber their bible is the New American Centuary-check it.