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    Gun Owners of America
    November 11, 2009

    The anti-gun zealots at the Brady Campaign will not let one tragedy go by without exploiting the victims to further their gun control aims, and the recent shooting at Fort Hood is no exception.

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    Sen. Richard Burr.

    When Brady head Paul Helmke heard of the tragedy at Fort Hood, he says, “we were in the midst of planning a response to the latest dangerous legislative proposal from the gun lobby in the United States Senate–language to automatically restore access to guns to veterans designated by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs and the Justice Department as ‘mentally incapacitated’ or ‘mentally incompetent.’”

    Actually, the legislation in question, S. 669, would only safeguard two of the most fundamental of American’s Constitutional rights: due process of law and the right to keep and bear arms

    Since 1999, over 100,000 U.S. military veterans have been stripped of their Second Amendment rights on the basis of psychiatrists’ opinions for issues such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). 

    (Incidentally, the alleged Ft. Hood shooter was an Army psychiatrist, one of the very people in a position to deem others too troubled to possess a firearm.) 

    S. 669, sponsored by Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC), simply requires that a veteran cannot lose his or her gun rights “without the order or finding of a judge, magistrate, or other judicial authority of competent jurisdiction that such person is a danger to himself or herself or others.” 

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    In other words, the bill would put an end to the practice of psychiatrists subjecting veterans to a lifetime gun ban.  Helmke and the Brady Bunch apparently have as much respect for the Fifth Amendment (No person shall “be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”) as they do for the Second.

    Helmke continues: “America has seen an epidemic of horrific gun violence at churches and synagogues, workplaces, health clubs, high schools, universities, police stations and now Army bases.  This latest tragedy, at a heavily fortified army base, ought to convince more Americans to reject the argument that the solution to gun violence is to arm more people with more guns in more places.  Enough is enough.”

    There have, indeed, been a number of violent acts at places of worship and other locations.  But guess what?  Many of these places are gun free zones.  There is a federal “gun free schools zones” law; many states prohibit firearms in churches; law-abiding adults can carry concealed firearms in 48 states, but are prohibited from carrying a gun for self-defense in most state universities.

    While it may have come as a surprise to many, the military creates its own disarmament zones.  After the Ft. Hood tragedy, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone reminded reporters, “[W]e don’t carry weapons here, this is our home.”  Military bases are for the most part gun free zones, where only military police and other security personnel are allowed to carry firearms. 

    The government cannot legislate where a criminal attack will occur.  It could be a school, a hospital, church, or even an Army base.  Various levels of government have only succeeded in producing a morass of mandatory victim zones.

    Helmke got one thing right; “Enough is enough.”  Criminal safety zone laws should be repealed immediately, starting with the dangerous anti-gun policies on military installations. 

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    156 Responses to “Brady Campaign Exploits Fort Hood Tragedy”

    1. SPIRITBLADE Says:

      Like we didn’t see this coming…

      [NEVER]

      [SEND THE BIGGEST ARMY YOU GOT]

      [NEVER]

      SPIRITBLADE Reply:

      For the Christians in the audience un-sure how the Living God feels about defending yourself with a weapon, peruse LUKE 22…

      Mike Reply:

      How to end the NWO: http://www.freedomguide.weebly.com

      Illuminati Numerology Reply:

      11/09/2009

      JARRATT, Va. — The mastermind of the 2002 sniper attacks that killed 10 in the Washington, D.C., region has been executed.

      A prison spokesman says John Allen Muhammad died by injection at 9:11 p.m. Tuesday at Greensville Correctional Center.

      Muhammad was executed for killing Dean Harold Meyers at a gas station during the spree that terrorized Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C., over a three-week period. His teenage accomplice, Lee Boyd Malvo, was sentenced to life in prison.

      Prison spokesman Larry Traylor says Muhammad had no final words. He says he didn’t hear him utter a word the entire time.

      Seal Reply:

      Does that signal MKULTRA brainwashing??

      MJCW Reply:

      Dear paranoid moron – losers like you and those on that site couldn’t end anything as you lack the IQ to do much more than exist.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      HEY DID YOU KNOW YOUR A FROZEN CAT.

      duh Reply:

      mines 175 how about yours

      MAD DOG Reply:

      WILL YOU NUTS LAY OFF THE JESUS SAUCE JUST FOR ONCE ?

      mad dog food and fairy tales Reply:

      Always barking up the wrong tree are you not? Do you enjoy chewing up squirrels as much as barking at the moon? You might lay off howling and do something constructive, like take a fles bath

      MAD DOG Reply:

      MAYBE I WILL, THE DAY YOU LEARN TO SPELL.

      ummm Reply:

      Ya…learn to spell. Coming from a guy who states he is a “parimedic” ROFL

      duh Reply:

      maddog your not believing in christ ia also a religion…..
      think about it

      Richard M Reply:

      We need to start going on the offense! Lets use these incidents just like the anti-gun people do. Let’s start contacting our representatives and let them know that it was the right to bear arms that allowed this shooter to be stopped! And that if more of us could carry guns than these incidents would end even faster!!

      mans--- Reply:

      WTF can we do when we have a familyof 4 and are only taking in 50,000.00. I am tired of people saying we NEED to do something. A PATRIOT like charli sheen is doing NOTHING at ALL. NOTHING.

      If I had 3 million dollars cash. I could hire 20 degreed individuals for only 30,000.00 a year for part time information war work of all kinds. Imagine spending 600,000.00 a year on salary and another 100,000.00 per year on supplies and travel.

      Now imagine the amount of work ie charity, public radio, community events, church and or television work we could accomplish in only 3 years.

      So. . .3 million dollars and 3 years = THE WORLD WOULD NOW KNOW AND UNDERSTANDS THE TRUTH.

      WOW —- Only three million dollars to get this done. s--- s--- s--- s--- . . .Why is it so cheap to get the word out but yet all THESE MILLIONAIRS ARE DONING NOTHING.

      NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING

      Understand we need an orcheastrated movement with some REAL $$$$$$ behind it. UNTIL then the peasents and serfs will be fed this bull s--- information we can do nothing about.

      s--- s--- s--- shti szith shto I am PISSED OFF

      WTF can I do or you do. We can group and organize but WE CAN NOT do this without $$$$$.

      Where oh where are OUR WEALTHY PATRIOTS AT WHO ARE WILLING TO PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS?

      Nowhere my friends nowhere my freinds. ARE THEY FAKE . . . MAYBE THEY ARE. . .

      f---

      Richard Reply:

      What the hell are you talking about!? I said to contact your representative! Obviously you can afford email!

      MAD DOG Reply:

      I WOULD FUND THE START UP OF A NATIONAL CIVILIAN DEFENSE FORCE ( MILITIA)

      OOPSA! Reply:

      C\/C…CITIZENS VIGILANTE COMMITTEE!

      OOPSA! Reply:

      AND A “REAL” NRA…OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE WITH EVERYTHING!

      mad dog food and fairy tales Reply:

      It has been said that if you are not the leed dog the scenery never changes.Hows the view mad dog?

      MJCW Reply:

      And you would go straight to prison Good move for the rest of us.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      I’M A LONE WOLF ASSHOLE.

      I FOLLOW NO-ONE.

      AND HOW CHRISTIAN OF YOU TO ATTACK ME BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH YOUR DELUSIONS

      WHAT DID JESUS SAY ABOUT HOMO’S AND HIPOCRITS, THEY’RE AN ABOMINATION, PUT THEM TO DEATH.

      WELL SIR IT LOOKS NO SOUP FOR YOU.

      pissed in pahrump Reply:

      i can relate to your feelings, about the same situation for me , and yes where are the rich ones in this ?lol, well we know where the very wealthy are and where they stand -lol
      hang in there brother, if you have friends in your area join together in efforts to prep anyway, such as share the cost of food processing etc, if by chance you live near southern nevada write me wolfdjg@msn.com

      IrishGal Reply:

      If the military personnel were armed, this Hasan guy would have never gotten away with even trying his mass murder. Get ready friends, the day is approaching for the shot heard round the world to be heard again.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      I SWEAR, WHEN THIS GOES DOWN, I’M GOING TO THEIR OFFICE WITH 2 GUNS.

      1 LOADED AND 1 NOT LOADED, I’LL PLOP THE UNLOADED ONE DOWN AND PULL OUT THE LOADED ONE AND START GOING POSTAL.

      YOU JUST KNOW SOMEONE WILL PICK IT TO USE IT, AND CLICK., CLICK, CLICK.

      THEN I WILL SHOOT THAT PERSON 2 TIMES FOR BEING A HIPOCRIT.

      mad dog food and fairy tales Reply:

      come on dog,you will be pissing a trail so long with your tail between your legs , that when you end up in the pound you will be praying to fairy tale to save your sorry butt from being put down

      MJCW Reply:

      What a moron you are. More guns mean more deaths as shown around the world.

      JonVon Reply:

      Then why do all these tragedies happen in gun free zones????
      If the people following the law had guns to defend the innocent people it would not end in tragedies.

      mad dog food and fairy tales Reply:

      once upon a time ,long time ago the people of the land of MJCW decided to make a treaty with the hooligans of neighboring maddogville.It so happened the dogs were defacating all over the sacred cow pasture where all the guns had been buried.Well, there was a meeting of the minds as they say,and the women of both towns married the others men and bore children who not only hated G-d, but taught the young uns that the only fairy tale was in the higher powers existance. One day a biker brawl went bad and the old fart men of maddogville dug up the buried guns and defended all the people! Well it did not go too well, for they had forgotten to keep the second ammendamant. The children hated all that stuff in the constution bout divine providence, year of our Lord, blessing of the Almignty and such, With that amendmant gone no one had gun oil to clean the weapons,and then they all cried in one voice together” Why has G-d allowed this to happen to good folk like us/” the end

      MJCW meet the baseball bat Reply:

      MJCW, imagine you are getting off work. Just a few days ago the senate banned all guns and not a single person in the us owns one. Okay well now meet a band of rabid clowns armed with baseball bats with the word “gun” etched on them. These rabid clowns quickly surround you and then viciously beat the living s--- out of you with these bats. Needless to say, after these sick clowns have defficated on you, paramedics arrive and you tell your story.

      Now across the country people are demanding a ban on these “gun” bats. Well congradulf---inlations, you are now at your previous arguement that happened about the real guns. Like banning guns will help, asswipe.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      KEEP GOING DOWN. BASEBALL BAT, SO YOU WANT TO PLAY. NOW WHERE IS THAT DARN GUN NUT.

    2. doa Says:

      why does anyone ever think that “politicians” will EVER stop lying and trying to SCREW the American people….first problem is …most of them are lawyers by trade, so it is almost expected that they will be cut-throat liars, seocnd to govern is to control…these people want power for the sake of having power…not to help anyone …just o be in control.

      zeebob Reply:

      Once upon a time there was a small town with one lawyer. At a certain point in time a second lawyer came to town, and within two years both lawyers were rich men.

    3. Gerke Says:

      Revolution, the only solution.
      The armed response of an entire nation.
      Revolution, the only solution.
      We’ve taken all your s---, now it’s time for restitution.

      Cecil Reply:

      System of a Down – great band.

      They have many good anti-government songs… as good as Rage Against the Machine if not better.

      doa Reply:

      check out OTEP, Tantric and Hed (PE) for more good anti-government tunes!

      MAD DOG Reply:

      I THINK TWISTED SISTERS , “WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ”

      IS TOTALLY UP TO PAR WITH WHAT OUR RESPONSE WILL BE EVENTUALLY.

      mad dog food and fairy tales Reply:

      You dog will be on the couch watching Rin Tin Tin reruns and hoping that Lassie or the Taco bell Chiuaha will stop by to show you the yellow brick road to fairy tale land

      IrishGal Reply:

      You are right on. If we do not stop these enemies of liberty, they will kill us.

      MJCW Reply:

      Guess what moron, nothing will happen.

      MJCW Reply:

      Nothing will happen

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      THATS WHAT YOU THINK. I PREDICT SOMEONE, I MEAN KITTY, WILL GET FROZEN SOLID*****

    4. Uk Expat Says:

      So those who are trained in the use of firearms dont get em and Mr average can have them. Seems to me the troops at Hood should have all been armed, how many would have been killed then?

      the constitution is fast becoming an aspiration rather than a directive as those ‘politico’s’ would say.

      dewclaw Reply:

      It doesn’t work that way… all arms are stored in the company armory, even privately owned(unless they’re hidden on ceiling tiles in the barracks), the media said he had access to military weapons…that’s not true. He bought pistols at a local gun shop.

    5. broken arrow Says:

      Did we expect anything else from these anti-gun asshats! They will use any and all things to bring about their communist agenda!

      In light of their wishes we need more armed Americans not less!

      doa Reply:

      i agree…the whole reason we HAVE weapons is to resist tyrannical governement!

      Buzzkill Reply:

      In the words of archy bonker; Would you rather them throw you out of a window? There will always be oposing views that will at many times lead to violence. From politics; to religon, or even keeping our homes safe from the evils of this world. This will never cease in this life. So why would a government want to prevent its people from protecting themselves?

    6. Richard M Says:

      We need to start going on the offense! Lets use these incidents just like the anti-gun people do. Let’s start contacting our representatives and let them know that it was the right to bear arms that allowed this shooter to be stopped! And that if more of us could carry guns than these incidents would end even faster!

      Buzzkill Reply:

      Heres a thought. Why not have our authorities disarm? They do have numbers of non leathal weapons available to protect themselves in any situation. But then who would be afraid of the Man with a can of sticky foam?

    7. FrankO Says:

      The beauty is that the anti-gunners won’t have guns when the civil war starts. Thats about 50% of this nation now. I guess they didn’t think some things thru. They think the guberment will protect them. That is almost comical. The politicians have no credibility because they all own guns and think us little people shouldn’t.

      MJCW Reply:

      Hey moron, the problem is for the parnoid gun nuts likle yourself is that the sane membars of society know there won’t be a revolution. If you are sure that there will be please put a date on it so we can mock you.

      Say No To Treason Reply:

      Hey MJCW, you are the moron and you cannot spell so I would shut the f--- up if I were you, thankfully I’m not, I have guns and brains and I will wave to you when your in a FEMA camp slave.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      DOWN THERE

    8. 'ren Says:

      those silly elites think they are going to get our guns over this? they are nothing more than “whiney little s---s” that havent got a clue.

      IrishGal Reply:

      We have been complacent dumb asses – the American public in general. The elites think what ever they say we will jump and do. They have no idea how many of us are out here, armed and ready and ready to die for the cause of liberty. What “cause” are the tyrannical elites willing to die for? The answer is simple – NONE. They are good for nothing cowards that will sell everything and everyone out to save their miserable behind. Take heart patriots – the people we face are cowards. We will prevail. Most of them will get on their gulf streams and fly out of here to their Swiss chalets once the s--- hits the fan. God bless all of you fellow patriots.

      MJCW Reply:

      What a moron you are. Please put a date on when this is going to happen so we can mock you.

      King Mockingbird Reply:

      MJCW, this is The king mockingbird. I’ve noticed your mocking footprint is much larger than your ignorance payment and as such me and the other mockingbirds would like to caution you that in order to warrant the use of more mockery, you MUST pay more ignorance to keep bad things from happening to you.

      We understand this may cause you some discomfort, but rest assured, controlling your mocking footprint saves helpless mockingbirds from the lack of things to mock. Thank you for your time.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      MOW RON KEEP GOING DOWN

    9. FrankO Says:

      The Elites want the pro-gun rights people to wipe out the liberals first as a good start for population control. Why do you think they have brainwashed them so bad. Liberals could care less about the human race in general. They are narcissists with no morals. But oh they claim to care so much. Yeah right. They are only trying to please their masters in power. That has already been proven with some experiments with students shocking or so they thought people that didn’t answer the questions right and being told to turn up the voltage even though it seemed that it may kill the folks hooked up to the machine. The Elites want them to be the first to go because they are so pathetic.

    10. Steve Says:

      People who want to do something positive – http://www.bailoutmainstreetnow.com – Channel your energies in a positive way. Here are some suggestions, build a web page, phone your congressman, attend meetings in your local area with like minded people to form or support freedom coalitions, email your local representatives, call Washington, have group viewings videos that have verified information pertaining to amendment rights… http://www.bailoutmainstreetnow.com

      MJCW Reply:

      Well one thing is that gun nuts, being unemployable have lots of time. Of course it will be a complete waste of time as nothing will happen.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      MJCW GETS FROZEN TO DEATH****>DOWN THE PAGE KEEP GOING JUST KEEP READING IT WILL ALL PLAY OUT.

      duh Reply:

      first you have to move out of your parents basement and smell some fresh air mjcw and not the bs your spreading…..

    11. Mickey Says:

      I would like to fart in Paul Hemke’s face after a nice lunch at Pancho’s Mexican Buffett. You don’t want to be around me post Pancho’s.

      'ren Reply:

      i believe you mickey! lol

      MJCW Reply:

      No one wants to be around you at any time because of your low IQ

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      MORE MORE DOWN

      duh Reply:

      mines 175 how bout yours

      duh Reply:

      but i.q. means nothing in the real world

    12. CH47 Says:

      I spent fourteen years in the army, the military
      has always required “P.O.W.” (Privately Owned Weapons)
      to be placed in the armory, while on post.
      But, could be taken out, if needed, for off-post use.

      There is no need to carry a weapon on post, with the
      exception, of the MP’s.
      Military bases, are similar to small towns, but much more
      controlled.
      The same situation as anywhere, a criminal is going to
      do what criminals do, to include carry weapons, illegally.

      The problems, are not the weapons, it is society itself.
      Yes, of course, the NWO, but the people of America
      had hand in it as well, they went along with the
      liberal communist of the 1960’s, if they didn’t, none
      of this crap would be happening now.

      That is why, I will not fight the NWO, when the same
      evolutionist, atheist and satanist, will still be around
      if and when the revolution is won.
      What will be the change? Yes, the individuals of the NWO
      will be taken down, but, look who will still be around, the same
      religion of evolutionist, atheist and satanist.
      I am not going to fight and die for them, they are the same
      as the NWO, just different people.

      'ren Reply:

      have faith in the love of the people of this world ch47, when we are DONE, there wont be one left. NOT ONE! that sir, is a promise, a FACT. by the time we’re after them, the entire world will be hunting these satanists and their “troops”, and they will perish ALL OF THEM AND THEIR BLOODLINE. reconsider your stance in this, you are not a defeatist, pull out that inner strength that all humans have and ready yourself.

      NoNwo Reply:

      You do realize that there are plenty of atheists and “evolutionists” that oppose the NWO, right?

    13. Kshatriya Says:

      An Open Letter To Alex Jones: http://www.PatriotsCave.blogspot.com

    14. eric s. Says:

      This doesn’t make sense. You cannot use the Forthood attack as a pretext for control. Unless you’re going to say that the Army shouldn’t bear arms, you can’t argue for control in this case.

    15. FrankO Says:

      Ive wrote my congressman and was ignored. They are worthless and could care less about the little people. I also had a web page and nothing became of it. We need to start from scratch and go back to hand counting ballots. We need to deport queers, liberals, Illegal aliens and Muslims then seal our borders. One of the only jobs the federal government should be doing according to the Constitution and they ignore that. These people are committing treason and you think writing a letter to them will make a difference? They are serious committing multiple crimes and now need to be tried but we also need a new court of law instead of lawlessness as we have now. The States need to take back their rights and that would be a good start.

      roaddog6 Reply:

      if we were considered “people” they would listen to us.

      FrankO is right Reply:

      Amen, FrankO.

      'ren Reply:

      franko you are correct. the ucc common laws are excellent. we should use them. they are definately “for the people”.

      Ellen Reply:

      Deport queers? You obviously have no respect for the Constitution of the United States. “Queers” are people, just as you are a person and we all have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Deport liberals? Good grief, just get rid of the people you don’t like?

    16. 322skull Says:

      Rothschild says… We don’t need you anymore….???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXzQD2SRESs

    17. lisa Says:

      Revolution Coming

      Revolution coming
      to this country soon
      it will start with a spark
      then grow to a boom!

      Government gone rogue
      law turned upside down
      who will stand proud?
      who will cower to the ground?

      Illegal laws passed
      against our Constitution
      Time to declare
      a 2nd Revolution

      We’re not treated like citizens
      just looked upon as slaves
      They take away our rights
      Rotten evil knaves!

      Taxes, vaccines, lies upon lies
      they don’t listen to our voices
      and don’t heed our cries

      Our Bill of Rights
      has been ripped to shreds
      Then tossed like ashes
      upon our heads

      Revolution coming
      to this country soon
      it will start with a spark
      then grow to a BOOM!

      'ren Reply:

      thats a good poem lisa, thanks

      MJCW Reply:

      Please put a date on when the revolution will start so we can mock you

      lisa Reply:

      MJCW—Who do you mean by “we”? You, yourself, and you?

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      KEEP GOING

      Ellen Reply:

      I agree with lisa: I won’t be mocking her so you’re on your own.

    18. bigpete Says:

      Most of the ‘terrorist’ bomb attacks of the past sixty years have been false-flag attacks that were actually committed by the Israeli Mossad, the CIA, and British intelligence. For six decades the allied Western intelligence agencies have been carrying out an ongoing campaign to frame Muslims for bombings which were actually perpetrated by the Western intelligence agencies themselves. The attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11/2001 were a joint CIA/Pentagon/Mossad false-flag operation that was intended to provide an excuse for the subsequent US-led Coalition invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq.

      The Western nations are not unique in their use of false-flag bombings to inspire public support for a government policy of aggression. The Russian government blamed Chechen ‘terrorists’ for perpetrating the horrific Moscow apartment bombings of the summer of 1999, but agents of the Russian FSB were seen placing military-grade explosives in the basement of an apartment building in Ryazan, near Moscow.

      The current US and Israeli belligerence toward Iran is the continuation of a modern Crusade by the USA, Israel, the UK, and their allies to gain control of the Middle East oil fields. The USA is run by a wealthy ruling elite whose enforcement arm, the CIA, operates secretly and without accountability to any authority other than its elite masters. The US Congress and the US President are mere puppets of the ruling elite, and their purpose is to provide the public with an illusion or false facade of democracy, Pravda.Ru reports.

      Absolute SLANDER, LIES and false accusations that the Russian government had anything to do with those apartment bombings. One would think that someone so low as to make those absurd statements is themself an agent of either Mossad/CIA or just a stinking, filthy traitor. This garbage has no place in respectable media.

      They also could be suffering from mental problems. While evidence exists for numerous false-flag operations by CIA and Mossad, this person seems without scruples whatsoever so you can’t believe anything written by them.

      Yes the US is run by a ruling elite, democracy and freedom are but an illusion created by the corporate owned media which pretend also to be free, but they are just the mouthpieces of the elite ruling class. If they are not taken down soon, they will be responsible for the murder of billions of people.

      MJCW Reply:

      Could you put a date on when the “billions” of people will be murdered so we can mock you for being the fool you are?

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      NO MOCKING, YOU KNOW THE ROLES. BE A NICE KITTY.

    19. paul helmke Says:

      is in it for the money. 444444$$$$$$$$ check out how much he make a year taking your rights away. can you say soviet pinko $120,000 know base pay

    20. Anonymous Says:

      In Missouri, the highway patrol will outright STEAL a person’s firearm. They will deprive a person of his property without due process of law. These pigs care nothing for constitutional rights. Troop G should have a sign outside its headquarters in Willow Springs reading, “WELCOME TO THE DEN OF THIEVES”.

    21. The Truth Says:

      Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the following web site and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.

      http://www.2besaved.com

      Blessings
      Ben

      dan from ohio Reply:

      you are incorrect concerning the Rapture teaching.It is found in the ancient Jewish Wedding Tradition.Also try reading and researching the ancient Jewish Holy days found in Leviticus .In Revelations we find the Holy Days being played out.The Feastb of Trumpets,the Feast of Dedication and the Feast of Tabernacles….The believers are removed prior to the TYribulation period…

      MAD DOG Reply:

      I’LL JUST SIT HERE AND HOLD MY BREATH WAITING FOR THIS RAPTURE.

      RAPTURE ORIGINATES FROM THE WORD RAPE – TO TAKE BY FORCE.

      TURE -MEANS MANY.

      RAPTURE, MEANS A MASS TAKING OF , BY FORCE.

      DUMB ASSES.

      MJCW Reply:

      Sorry, but this preaches that your God tortures for eternity those who don’t do what he wants. He might be all powerful but he can’t be a god as he is a sick entity that tortures weaker beings. Even on earth that is considered unacceptable by people so why should a “God” be worshipped for doing it.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      HE DONT EXSIST SO FK IT, WHO CARES.

      ummm Reply:

      More great spelling from the spelling police.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      MORE INSITE FROM AN ASSHOLE.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      NO TORTURE! BAD MJCW

      duh Reply:

      oh college boy you have a lot to learn

    22. ewkeane Says:

      Paul Helmke can go piss up a rope.

    23. mad dogfood Says:

      HR 2640, the vetrans disarmamanent bill, passed about two years ago, written by Charlie Schummer would even take guns from those traumatised by earthquakes, sexual abuse or a car accident.Why do the traitors we call congress want to disarm our Vets??????HummmmIT IS BECAUSE THEY KILL THE ENEMY,,,,,,,,,THEM,,,,,,,,WITHOUT REMORSE………………../////????????

      MJCW Reply:

      Have you taken your anti paranoid medicine lately? I think not.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      PARANOID KITTY ON THE LOOSE….

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      JUST SUCKING ON MY 357! WHILE WHITE PEOPLE HERE IN USA MARCH INTO CAMP FEMA. BLACK PEOPLE 13% AND DIED OF THE PLAUGE A WEEK AGO. JUST US JEWS NOW IN THE PROMISED LAND. LOST TRIBE #12

    24. MJCW Says:

      Gun nuts are paranoid morons. With all your guns the USA ranks as one of the most dangerous countries in the world – on the latest Safe Countries list there are 83 safer countries in the world. And when you read the pro gun nuts on sites like this you can see why it is such a dangerous country. They should not be allowed out without a keeper. And of course they are usually inadequate failures in life who think that having a gun makes them less inadequate.

      'ren Reply:

      ??? mjcw, my guns do have a keeper, ME. i am not a failure in life, nor am i inadequate. you have a very narrow minded view of americans, propaganda perhaps? i strongly suggest when you plan your next vacation abroad, that you stick to the top ten SAFE countries, apparently the site of a gun scares the s--- out of you. sissy

      MJCW Reply:

      OK, what do you do in life? What has been your avergae income for the last 5 years. $4 ?

      'ren Reply:

      well how did you know what my “avergae” 5 year income is? wow, not only are you arrogant, you are intuitive too! gee, you shouldnt be wasting your talents on this website, you should write a book or two. i see you have “limited” literacy, so i recommend that you enroll into a sylvan learning center first. hopefully, you’ll have the courage to do this for yourself to boost your self esteem, then maybe you wont be so afraid of people that own guns, sissy.

      va norfolk Reply:

      MJCW, if you do not like it here(your free to leave) please buy a one-way ticket to one of those 83 country’s that is safer then the US.
      Or just get the fu-k out of my country.

      MJCW Reply:

      Its not your country, it belongs to the majority of non insane, non paranoid Americans who have to tolerate low income, low IQ motons like yourself.

      MAD DOG Reply:

      AND YOU.

      WHAT BRANCH DID YOU SERVE IN ?

      CUZ IF YOU DIDNT, YOU ARNT A PART OF THOSE WHO IT BELONGS TOO.

      ummm Reply:

      Whats a “arnt” oh grand master of spelling?

      MAD DOG Reply:

      IT MEANS TELL YOUR MOM I LEFT MY UNDERWEAR UNDER HER BED.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      MJCW. I THOUGHT WE KILLED YOU. OH WELL, ENJOY STARVING TO DEATH.

    25. JC Says:

      Mandatory Victim Zones, M.V.Z. for short.

      This is the most simple way of stating the fact that gun control creates more victims. Where guns are prohibited, you have a a herd of sheep ready for the slaughter. The criminals know it and they us it to their advantage.

      If Obama wanted change, he is making good progress. He’s whipping up a whirlwind that is going to throw this country into a new revolution.

      Wake up Brady idiots. This isn’t about guns. This is about how a terrorist was able to infiltrate our military forces. If anyone else in the room had a gun, the casualties would have been much less.

      This drives me insane. In every country where they have instituted citizen gun bans, violent crime has risen. Some with guns, some with other weapons. When does it end? Some countries are trying knife bans. I believe I read something recent about the UK banning the pint glass, yes the big beer glass. Let’s get real people.

      Someone commented that the government will not institute an all out gun ban. Tell me, why not? It may not be all at once, but groups like the Brady Campaign work to erode this right. Like any other law abiding gun owner, the biggest threat I pose to you is a decrease in paper targets to shoot at and certain animals I may hunt. At least until you try to illegally take them from me.

      No matter how trivial some legislation may appear or how little it affects you, remember that legislation always gives more control to the government.

      Defend your rights, Defend your country and Defend your freedom.

      MJCW Reply:

      I have no doubt that you are, as you say, insane. The fact is the coutries that restrict gun ownership have a fraction of the violence that the US has. Of course you lie to yourself but you should try not to lie to others who know the facts.
      Let me guess, you earn below the average wage if at all and you only feel adequate when you have a gun.

      Ben Reply:

      Self-defense is violence. Is self-defense bad?

      JonVon Reply:

      Countries that have outlawed guns have seen an increase in violent crime. Where do you your information from?

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      YOU KEEP RESURECTING. NOW WHERE DID I PUT THAT 357.

      duh Reply:

      well when you get out of college lets see what kind of job you get…..and not one from mommy or daddy or one that requires you to suck your thumb because you would have an unfair advantage over 99.9999999999 percent of us…

    26. snappa Says:

      If the military would let the soldiers have the second amendment on a military base this would not have happened. Military does not have easy access to their service weapons when they are in garrison. You have to lock up all of your personal weapons at the armory and that includes long knives, bows, hunting weapons and pistols. if the soldiers were allowed to carry this nutty doctor would have been swiss cheese. I’m sick of people like the disgraced Mayor Daley and the brady gun grabbers pretending to care about guns. their approach is totally nonsensical and emotional. the more i look at the news the more i shake my head. i knew this would happen sometime but its hard to believe how its accelerating in front of us. not just gun grabbing either

      'ren Reply:

      agreed, snappa.

      MJCW Reply:

      What a paranoid moron you are. The facts say that the less guns the less violence there is. If the solders were allowed to carry weapons then there would be many more deaths as guns would be used to settle disagreements. The gun lobby are inadequate human beings who only feel able to cope with life if they have a gun.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      I’M GETTING TIRED, LETS SEE PHAZZERS ON KILL.

      Ellen Reply:

      MJCW = Troll.

    27. lye32 Says:

      paul helmke and the brady bunch can go blow smoke up their a$$

      MJCW Reply:

      What an deep intellectual arguement you make. What, drop out of school at five did you?

      MJCW's First grade teacher Reply:

      What “a” deep intellectual arguement you “made”. “Did you drop out of school when you were five?”

      No brownie points for attempting a complex sentence structure. See me after class!

      F– !

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      MJCW YOU ARE A CAT. NOW WHERE IS THE TAPE. AH HERE IT IS. WAIT, COME BACK HERE.

    28. mad dog food and fairy tales Says:

      Mad dog died and ends up at the pearly gates.St Peter says why should you be let in Mad Dog, after all you think all this is a fairy tale.Dog thinks about it and says”I was a good dog, barked alot but never hurt a flea! ” Spirit blade shows up about the same time.Peter says Spirit blade, in order to enter G-ds paradise you need to spell one word. LOVE. Spiritblade” L O V E ! Come on in! Ok Mad Dog, sorry to keep you.You just need to spell one word to enter.Whats the word Peter fairy tale????? No Czechosolvakia

    29. alex Says:

      Mad dog food and fairy tales,
      .
      .
      GOOD STUFF

    30. va norfolk Says:

      MJCW, DET THE FU-K OUT OF MY COUNTRY, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE

      MJCW Reply:

      You can’t argue aginst the fact that the more guns a country has the more insane violence it has so you use verbal violence instead. Let me guess, you have below average intelligence and income. Moron.

      robert mugabe Reply:

      Bro MJCW, yo man me bro in Rhowanda cut up man two million man mit machetes! O ya and wht left man we got really good gas and tire for fools wit no gun. you kan run but no hide fool….me men got AKs man shoot bang bang all fool s like you best regards Robert ps can you spare some cash man?

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      THERE YOU ARE YOU LITTLE MJCW KITTY. HERE IS SOME MILK.

    31. sickofitall Says:

      These f---ing politicians (ie shumer and feinstein) both jews are the most anti gun in the hands of it citizens but their first line of defense (ie the cops) could do no wrong. I will be fine as long as I don’t listen anything govt has to say as to my life. They can’t take your guns if they can’t find them. So f--- govt and those who serve it. They deserve everything that happens to them

      MJCW Reply:

      Saddly for paranoid morons like your self, those who have the intellect to understand that the more guns a society has the more violence it has are the successes in life so what will hapen to them will be alot better than sad losers like yourself.

      SCHJEUMMER2640 Reply:

      DAMN, THESE CATS NOW A DAYS. THEY JUST WON’T DIE. OK, WHO TOOK MY MK-ULTRA LAZER.——————————————————————————>******

      duh Reply:

      or the ones bent over a log with their butts in the air.

    32. sickofitall Says:

      I’m just glad this moron was able to get under your skin.

    33. sickofitall Says:

      Those who want to live let them fight. Those who don’t want to fight in this world of eternal struggle don’t deserve to live. People always want you to live according to their beliefs. Those people usually become politicians. There lies the last refuge of facist

      Ellen Reply:

      Well said.

      sickofitall Reply:

      Thank you ellen

    34. Ruby Says:

      I’m thinking, if we get back to the basics, the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, our Founders knew somthing that we have forgotten.

      Our unalienable rights do not come from government, they come from God.

      As the wise Thomas Jefferson suggested, binding the elected’s to the Constitution with chains.

      If we allow the government to get away with fooling us into thinking ‘they’ give us freedoms, therein lies the problem.

      Initially, the Feds were only involved in four areas of the people’s private lives. Failure to fight the enemy, failure to fight courageously, dissertion, and homosexuality. All other issues were settled within the home, community or state levels.

      We don’t need new laws, just inforce the one’s we have. Demand government acknowledge God.

      Finally, it is NOT the governments job to keep the people ’safe’ it’s there job to keep us free.

    35. mad dog food and fairy tales Says:

      There was a small town called Goretown , just a hop off of interstate 666.Well one day a group of mjcw’s decideded enough is enough with all the guns! They turned them in for baseball cards with a piece of bubble gum and put signs in their windows ” no guns here”.The other folks , who were referred to as” morons” cleaned their guns and bought lots of ammo. It just happened that there was a power blackout one fine day,causw obama shut down the coal fired plant,and all the jails were emptied as the prisoners killed the guards as they moved to Goretown. Well lo and behold every one of the mjcws were killed and pillaged.The morons just sat there and watched, they just figured the criminals did em a favor the end

    36. Geoph Says:

      Hey everybody,
      I hsd to drop a line at the end of this thread and thank everybody for ignoring the shill.
      This made it quite an enjoyable read.
      Can’t say I agree with everybody, but hey that’s what made USA great.
      I do respect all individuals opinions.

      Thanx again for not feeding the TROLLS!!!

      ME.

    37. stupidorder Says:

      The new world order is not going to work because is a stupid idea for stupid people, so it will self defeat before it goes too far.

      MJCW Reply:

      they are way smarter than you

      duh Reply:

      you must really think highly of yourself thinking your so smart -n- all i bet you could eat corn out of a pop bottle

      duh Reply:

      well lastly when the nwo drops the hammer we wont count on you for support…..but you can count on us.

    38. SCHJEUMMER2640 Says:

      MJCW NOW HOLD STILL, YOU WILL NOT FEEL A THING. JEW ARE GOING TO BE FLASH FROZEN^^^^^^^^///////……..>>>>>>>>**********@@@@@@ !J-L^^
      ( ) WELL THAT DOES IT.

    39. SCHJEUMMER2640 Says:

      PEACE AND SECURITY AT LAST…..

    40. DON'T FEED THE CHIMP Says:

      DON’T FEED THE CHIMP Says:

      Remember: “you don’t need the 2nd amendment, until they try to take it away from you”.-Thomas Jefferson.

      Impeach Chimp II:
      https://fs7.formsite.com/C4Strategies/form791898494/secure_index.html

    41. Big Mike Says:

      MJCW, Fact: more people have been killed in automobile accidents on our nations roads from 2003-2007 than were killed by a gun from 1977-2007. Now let me put that bit of info. into terms you “might” be able to understand.? More people are going to die from texting while driving this year alone than reloading a gun while driving while driving…. Now I suppose you want to ban all vehicles as well?? How about we start with your’s. You do have one (or more ) Am I correct? Or am I being foolish in assuming. Oh and hand over that deadly cell phone too.

    42. AntiglobalJoel Says:

      The Nazi’s are giving us two choices:

      Surrender, or die!

      Let’s choose a third!