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By-the-mile road tax could replace by-the-gallon federal fuel tax
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STEVE EVERLY
The Kansas City Star
July 1, 2009
The Kansas City Star
July 1, 2009
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
What once was science fiction is being field-tested by the University of Iowa to iron out the wrinkles should a by-the-mile road tax ever be enacted.
Besides the technological advances making such a tax possible, the idea is getting a hard push from a growing number of transportation experts and officials. That is because the traditional by-the-gallon fuel tax, struggling to keep up with road building and maintenance demands, could fall even farther behind as vehicles’ gas mileage rises and more alternative-fuel vehicles come on line.
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July 1st, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Resist this -find the gps tracking device attached to your car in 10 years and throw it on the capitol steps.Another incremental process.This kills the profits of truckers delivery businesses fed ex ups couriers and any one who makes thier living by way of driving.
Minnesota is rolling this out Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:00 pm
This article is 4 months old but here’s how it will work:
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/hhheve.....%20Tax.pdf
ADMIRAL OF THE NAVY Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Thats the Law of Contract working for your a$$.
Cancel out all contracts with the US Government.
First Name Last Name, Birth Certificate, SSN, credit cards, addresses, driver’s license, voters card, all
benefits, employment, everything that has the stench of government get rid of.
Then you wont see ill advised articles anymore and government intrusion.
They will lack the jurisdiction.
And if it doesnt work you know the charades is up, a police states is upon us, and the only method to
escape the tyranny lawfully will be to shoot it out. Make a choice.
Reply
AMIRAL OF THE NAVY Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
That would just take to long and you and i know that the voting machine is tainted to pick the unwanted.
Besides, if you do decide to take it up in the voting booth, you have waived the right to complain
about the shitty rules the unwanted winner (the majority so called voted in) decides to introduce and get passed.
Logic or reason or both? You make the choice.
Patriot_in_Arms Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
They say that they are going to do all this stuff by this year or that year, but they always forget to calculate in the Civil War that they are going to cause, before they can get all this crap implemented! By 2020, I see the Country being back in the hands of the people, & all the unconstitutional garbage that they are trying to push through now, will look like tyranny to the average American by then! The rest of the World will be fighting, & living in complete chaos, but we will be smiling pretty, telling the NWO to keep it away from us, or else we’ll nuke’em!
I live in Delaware Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I live in Delaware, do not pay my taxes, so do not worry about hight prices, its the only way, my money is my money, and if you want to make my day well just come down here to glassgow delaware old county road, and make my day!
yee huaa !
deathbyrevolt Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Unfortunately if you drive in the U.s.a. and get pulled over you will go to jail for driving without a license. This really sucks. I would have to kill the cops who pull me over. I believe and armed revolt will come well before 2020.
Big Herman Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Yes, I realize that our “Representatives” are working for and run by the Central Bankers, the Military Industrial Complex, and the Oligarchy which openly runs our country, but until something changes, its the only system we have.
It worked to defeat the first Banker Bailout right?
Tell them you are against this new cap and trade bill. Tell them we are not going to permit them to give more power to the “Federal” Reserve. Tell them we wont stand for anti-gun legislation. Tell them, remind them that they work for us, that they risk harming our very nation by going against the will of the people.
CALL CALL CALL!!!
You don’t even need to know your Representative’s name, just give the operator your zip code!
CALL CONGRESS NOW!!!
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frank james Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
hang’em bully wont stop until you call them out.
DEMON EYES Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
If this becomes reality the issue will be that you car will not run without it. The solution is to drive older non GPS’ed cars are refuse to have one installed. This also means not using those GPS units for directions, Toll road express pay tools, Satellite radio, and potentially cell phones as all can be tracked. All cell phones can be tracked unless there is not battery in them. Powered off does not totally disable them. I personally do not think this great nation will stand as anything we have ever know or will be able to recognize by then. Either the sheep will wake up and take back the freedom the usurpers have taken or we will all be salves or dead.
John Henke Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 am
The criminals intend to ” outlaw ” older cars in the name of global warming.
I pray for the revolution to begin soon, while we still have the means to fight.
william b travis Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
what do you think the cash for clunkers program
is meant to accomplish
you don t think these ghouls would do any thing good for you
do you
deathbyrevolt Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
All you have to do is take 240 volt circuit and run it through the GPS device and it will fry it runs on 12 volts only. Poof it is gone. Place neutral or white wire or green ground on one end and the hot wire (green, red, Blue,) you get the idea on the other end. Dis connect the battery before doing it to nothing else is fried.
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:42 pm
it’s another way for BB to keep track of everyone
End the Fed Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 6:40 am
This would also cost me too much. I am already spending over $300/mo on gas as a pc service tech just to run my calls everyday, and I only get mileage reimb over 35 miles one way and most of my calls are under 35 per call. I drive 75-175 miles per day 5 days /wk.
yeahright Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Tape Lead shielding over the antenna this will stop the gps signals from reaching the satellites\ when your done driving for the day pull lead shielding off
Badabing!
July 1st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
This tax is coming to your neighborhood a lot faster than 2020. Look to see legislation as early as next year, first coming as a mandate that every car must have a GPS installed to be legal.
John Henke Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 am
You’re right!
And this tax will not replace the gas tax. It will be added on to it with all of the other tax increases. The criminal government has never repealed a tax!
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
kaj Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 10:09 am
You are probably right. They won’t be looking to *replace* an old tax, just add more on top of what they already have.
Can GPS signals be blocked? For example, constructing some sort of Faraday cage around the unit or disabling whatever part of it that sends the signal? There’s no need to continually track the actual position of a vehicle to count miles. A simple annual or biannual odometer check should suffice. There is absolutely no need to know which exact road the vehicle traveled on, just how many miles of roadway were used.
Using GPS is just an excuse to snoop and collect data, making it legal for the government to follow you around everywhere you go in your car.
deathbyrevolt Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 pm
doesnot not mean it has to be working.
John Henke Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 6:53 am
The gas pump won’t come on if it isn’t, and every cop that doesn’t get a reading from your car as you pass by will be after you.
The political class is a gang of master criminals. Believe me, they have covered all of the bases.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:54 pm
so you are not free in America nebbish Americans, zie gezunt!
ACNMARK Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:02 pm
your just as much part of it in Germany as here in America. we are just more popular.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:57 pm
What these fools don’t realize is this:
The current gasoline tax IS a “by the mile” tax….and it is almost free in its implementation.
No satellites, no black boxes by the zillions, no infrastructure….
No, this is NOT about taxing you (that’s only a secondary use)…the REAL reason is to track and monitor your EVERY ACTIVITY.
Period!
JF Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
None of the government’s damn business where I or anyone else goes. Why do they care so damn much? Why not turn the tables on them and track where they go?
John Henke Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 am
You got it right Charles.
This is about total control.
Welcome to Fascist America! Screw freedom! Screw every soldier that fought and died for us!
Lets all join Obango and his Marxist minions and go piss on a war memorial! Ho, yes. And also throw out that old Constitution! It just gets in the way of our all powerful and all knowing rulers.
Or, on second thought, lets just arrest them, and try them for all of the crimes they are committing against us and our nation! LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 pm
you got it charlie
July 1st, 2009 at 1:58 pm
While all taxes suck, remember anything they do will only last until we regain liberty.
July 1st, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Guess what…the more you drive, the more you pay gasoline tax!! The current situation IS a “by the mile” tax!!
July 1st, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I read the comment rules for a post that I just made and was just censored for a comment I made only about these laws coming sooner. I believe that when something isn’t working than it should be fixed or thrown out. These moderators aren’t working, or they haven’t read the rules, or both.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:01 pm
big brother keeping an eye on where you drive and when you drive . time to get an old car.
DESERT DAVE Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
yea buy old ones without computer module that can be fixed much easier than ones today that have to be hooked into computer to diagnose something simple. better get to the boneyard myself lol.
Deep Contact Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Cash for clunkers.
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 pm
i drive a 71 chevy and it runs great. smells great to,man i’m leaving carbon footprints everywhere i go.
July 1st, 2009 at 2:07 pm
People with high mileage vehicles would actually pay a higher rate, per gallon, than people with lower mileage vehicles.
For green fascists, the only perceived benefit would be in tracking peoples’ every move.
4w578i Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:13 pm
BTW, the linked url was at kansas city dot com.
A casual acquaintance from that area once told me that a person dressed a certain way would never make it to the first stop sign.
Now, your car, itself, will be a “suspicionless” checkpoint, because every possible pattern of activity will be profiled.
Will a trial for precrime be prosecuted by a mysterious and unknowable blackbox, which answers to noone?
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm
I live in kc. and i have that article saved
July 1st, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Why is this news so startling? When in fact our great grandfathers warned us that this was going to happen. It does not matter whether or not you believe the Bible. Your going to try and tell me that this 1500 yr + old document, written over a span of 1500 yrs, by 40 different authors, without a single contradiction to the overall message. Word for Word translated from the original greek and hebrew text, with scientific, archiological, and historical proof. Not to mention the countless confirmed prophetic passages that are coming to pass. The Verichip/national ID/Somark (mark of the beast) Greenhouse/global warming/eugenicists (world religion) NWO/UN/CFR/TLC/EU (One world government beast) WE are losing are freedoms on a daily basis, and those world wide are losing what is left of theirs. The only thing that logically makes any sense is to go back in time and realize that men spoke and wrote this would happen long ago.
Why do we have problems believing the rest of this writ. If all of this has come true, do we believe that God, manifested in the flesh, came as our savior to this world to give us a chance to be saved from this sick system. Can we believe that we must be born again, do we believe there is a heaven or a hell? It is obviously your choice, no this is not an excuse for tyranny, yes the “church”has been involved in many wars, takeovers, and oppresive man made religion. However, the actions of mens are only a testimony to the changing of a man, not a testimony of an unchanging God. Study Babylon, look at Sodom and Gomorrah, We forget that the God of the old testament if the Jesus of the new, and he is not playing.
Öh, but your just manipulated by the system, a tv education has warped you, your decieved like all the rest, its all apart of the overall scheme of the elite”
Wrong, do you realize that one of the first orders to be carried out is to get rid of Christians, we have millions of muslims living in the US, legislation being passed will literally make it a felony to preach the bible, and in fact this system, those that are aloud to live, allow for a life the opposite of what is spoken of in the Bible, yet completely goes against the very core of what the original church was established to be.
It is amazing to watch people react, I quit watching tv and listening to main streamed media a long time ago and am very thankful I did. I’m seeing the dumbing down of America, and believe me the only CHANGE that this country needs is for Christians, not sinners, not atheists, or agnostics, but those who claim christianity to humble theirselves, seek God’s face, stop praying for his hand, his provision, give me give me, but pray for his will what he wants. Then this will turn us from our wicked ways, and HE WILL HEAL OUR LAND.
If not within 5 years all christians will be enslaved.
earl the earl of earl Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Agreed; the ultimate target of this system is Christians, at least those bible-believers who profess Jesus Christ as God in the flesh, sinless, risen from the dead, and to return again.
True revival in America will come through severe persecution.
As Christians, we must resist the onslaughts of the evil one, and it’s minions.
I will neither bow nor kneel to anyone or anything of this world.
Slave to no man except Jesus Christ.
4w578i Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
With all due respect to believers, I’m reading of a famine for the hearing of the Word, a falling away, a catching away, and a time when no more work can be done.
I know we’re still here for a reason, but, when they don’t care, we were given instructions for that, too.
uchikoma Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Have you ever considered the possiblity that the NWO emulates biblical prophecy because it has a psycological impact on the majority chrisitan USA???
When you study an enemy, as they MUST have been studing us, you study its religion, society and art alongside its offensive/defensive capabilities. This is an essential part of psyop planning.
I am convinced that sophisiticated electoronic monitoring could be achieved via more subtle methods….Just by extending the functionality of existing systems (money, bank cards, marketing, bills, taxm, loads more).
uchikoma Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Was referring to the question of why is the verichip solution so heavily pushed for when they could have a 98% as effective system in secret.
jim cunningham Reply:
July 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 am
because in a system of free will, they want your allegiance, voluntarily.
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
And the wicked are patient. This has been coming on for a long,long time!!!!!!
July 1st, 2009 at 2:10 pm
We ALL need bikes, or horses. All with carriages. Then we wouldn’t have to worry about cars hitting us.
Cars are not needed, and if we had little solar fans in our carriages, we would be very comfortable.
Ismal J Jackson Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Your high
July 1st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Alex Jones is talking about how there are people all over the place talking all this junk about him. Where are they?
I Am Not The One Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I’ve seen people on this website so far that have attacked me, but that’s all I did was point out the BS that they were trying to pull and then they basically STFU.
ADMIRAL OF THE NAVY Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Thats the Law of Contract working for your a$$.
Cancel out all contracts with the US Government.
First Name Last Name, Birth Certificate, SSN, credit cards, addresses, driver’s license, voters card, all
benefits, employment, everything that has the stench of government get rid of.
Then you wont see ill advised articles anymore and government intrusion.
They will lack the jurisdiction.
And if it doesnt work you know the charades is up, a police states is upon us, and the only method to
escape the tyranny lawfully will be to shoot it out. Make a choice.
Reply
AMIRAL OF THE NAVY Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
That would just take to long and you and i know that the voting machine is tainted to pick the unwanted.
Besides, if you do decide to take it up in the voting booth, you have waived the right to complain
about the shitty rules the unwanted winner (the majority so called voted in) decides to introduce and get passed.
Logic or reason or both? You make the choice..
4w578i Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I was thinking about admiralty law when they came out with the latest on all “vessels” and waterways.
The globalist, World Court has also presumed legal representation of all marooned refugees, under “denizenship” status.
If you think about it, when local authorities don’t cooperate with organic sovereigns, where will they take complaints?
July 1st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
If they really want to get down and dirty, they will tax by the operating hours of the vehicles, this way it will make a bigger difference when it comes to being stuck in Rush Hour Traffic, and the Environmental Nut Cases and get a part of the tax because of the CO2 output. This would be the next Logical Step instead of by taxing by the mile.
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Don’t give them any ideas. To late
July 1st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
The next logical step would be to leave the country fast. Go to Uruguay, hang out with Ken Lay etc. These are the last days folks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03TfQN1pXo
July 1st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
So now that we get electric cars we need to pay the tax by milage, great idea. Watch me fix the meter in the car…theres a way. Im sure. Bring it on….
July 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Years ago, my state figured plate fees by vehicle weight. The reasoning being heavier vehicles do more damage to roads. As cars got smaller/lighter to increase mileage, revenue of course dropped. They then changed the fees to reflect the vehicles market value, that way they could at least fleece the people who could afford newer vehicles. So all the people driving lighter more fuel efficient cars (supposedly better for environment) got punished.
Now that cars are heading towards electric, the gov’t is probably in a tizzy about a drop in gasoline taxes as we slowly move towards less gas usage. This article is a perfect example. No matter what we as consumers do, no matter how much we cut down or cut back on our so-called “dependence on foreign oil”, the government has no intention of doing the same. They will merely shift the taxes to something else so they continue to rake in the same money.
Not to mention the data gold mine of having gps location data for every second a citizen is using the public roadways. I bet they *really* like that.
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
They are paving the track they want every one to be on and we are paying for it,via taxes,etc.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
This story first came out months and months ago and it looks like more are jumping on the band wagon.
July 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
folks the time has come…..
we are to live back like in the old days in the west….. horse & buggy
saddle up fellas … no more gasoline for me … let those rotten bastards keep it .
“DEATH TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER”
Chips Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 9:38 pm
You’ll have to chip the damn horse. And the buggy. And check in with the NWO every time the beast leaves your property – which, by the way, you’ll have to register as premises for the horse.
There will be few options left.
Davey C Reply:
July 1st, 2009 at 10:49 pm
They’ll tax you every time the horse farts.
John Henke Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I don’t remember what state it is, but they passed a horse speed limit law. You can’t exceed 10 miles per hour! You have to have a GPS device to monitor your speed.
Damn! I wish I could remember which state that is.
I guess my point is, F##king government!
July 1st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
where is my flying car?
July 1st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I do not get it . Taxing by the mile makes no sense . They just want to violate our privacy . It make no sense . Taxing by the gallon is just fine .What difference does it make ?
They are afraid some people will drive on sugar ?
July 1st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Well I don’t drive , I ride a bike…but once again Big Brother is tapping his big hands.
Out of chaos we divide.
July 1st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Everywhere you can drive is already a toll road. Everywhere. You pay tax on fuel by the gallon purchased. You get X number of miles per gallon. You already pay X per mile travelled.
This is for no other reason than to track and trace your every move and possibly a scheme to drive up revenue by altering a long-used, albeit not well understood, taxing method. They are just building a prison planet and we are footing the bill.
The Constitution provides CONgress the authority to impose only tyo types of taxes. What are they? In which taxing type does the the current form fit? To which type would the by-the-mile fit?
July 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....E&NR=1
July 1st, 2009 at 10:52 pm
So when they implement this and we have to go to bicycles, are they going to tax our legs for petaling the bike? LOL These sellout politicians are going to beg for Gods mercy, but there is going to be a burning lake of fire waiting for them. I can’t wait for the day.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:58 pm
move away from big cities
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:51 am
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
when you buy the you pay the tax
July 2nd, 2009 at 6:06 am
I don’t think we have to worry about this. The US won’t exist in 2020. Hell, the US will not exist in a few years.
razor Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
AGREED….AND THE PATRIOTS WIN…AGIAN!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 2009 at 7:32 am
There is a way around this. Push businesses to allow it’s employees to work from home. There is a good number of jobs out there that can be done right from home because of our current information technology. I know my boss would allow me to do that. I have to drive 80 miles a day round trip. My husband and I used to drive sepparate. Then when the gas prices went through the roof, we re-aranged our schedules and started driving together. Now if they want to go and do this crap, we’ll just work from home. Have lap top, will stay at home. Taxes on the gas is by far the best and fairest way to do it. But if the gov. is going to force us to have fuel efficient or electric vehicles so as to reduce our dependancy on Big Oil, then I would say the gov. needs to reduce it’s dependency on Big Gas Tax. They’re clueless. The smart people will find a way around their scams everytime. And the rest of the people will follow suit. Have you ever noticed most of the stupid laws they pass are in reaction to people who find a way around a previous law. They’re constantly on the defensive. Let’s keep them there.
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 am
So what happens if someone refuses or doesnt have the money to pay the mile gas tax ?
And lots of ppl says im just a crazy paranoid nwo nut….
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I live 1 ml from work………….count me in!!!
cheskie Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Be thankful you have a job
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
shame on all you CIA, NSA, FBI agents that are compiling info on all of us. You are a greater threat to liberty and freedom than a million of your CIA trained “Bin Ladens”. If you truly love your country, if you truly want to protect your country, then look into the mirror and ask yourself, “who is my master”? Who is calling the shots? Who is ordering you to trample the fundamental rights of the very citizens you swore to protect? How far are you willing to go in the name of “safety”? Is it okay to detain citizens with no representation? Is it okay to disarm a populace so they are unable to defend themselves? Why did you get involved in law enforcement in the first place? Was it to defend the LIBERTY of your fellow citizen? Was it because you like to wear a badge? Carry a gun? Is it because you want to be on the “winning side”?. What kind of country are you building for YOUR children, for MY children. Will it be a nation built on fear? A nation where if you say the wrong thing, or peacefully protest against government action you are labled a “terrorist”? Is this the world you want your children to live in? Do you want them to live in a world where we are controlled by fear and by corporate interests? Where we are simply sheep, our only purpose to fill the coffers of international bankers, weapons contractors, and out-dated energy cartels? Shame on all of you who took an oath to defend this country from foreign and DOMESTIC threats that are facilitating the very demise of our once-great Nation. Does the fact that our current Federal government is operating completely outside the law not bother you? Have you ever really read the constitution? How brainwashed are you? Are you so caught up in your law-enforcement sub-culture to realize that you are now treating the very people that you swore to protect as your enemy? Reach inside yourself and shake your soul. You have the power to stand up and make a change. You have the power to say ” I cannot follow this order, I will not follow this directive as it is simply unconstitutional. Or, will you sell your soul for your pension? Will you continue to violate our God-Given RIGHTS of privacy, Liberty, Freedom, and Happiness? Do you not understand that when you operate outside the constitution you are operating as a lawless thug? Do you not understand that when you compromise the constitution in the name of ” safety” that you are buying into a lie? I pray that you will listen to these words. They are the words of a fellow citizen. They are the words of a man that has worked since he was 16 to build a life for himself and his family. They are the words of a man who believes in the power of the constitution and power that it grants its populace. If you really want to protect your country, the real terrorists are not in a sandbox 5,000 miles away. The real terrorists are sitting in Congress. They are sitting in the white house, they own the Federal Reserve, and they are even sitting in your office. They are the people who are taking the constitution and setting it on fire. They are the ones who follow their own agenda’s under the guise of freedom. It is all very simple. Follow the constitution. It is no more complicated than that. If you are asked to perform a task, and that task is not constitutional than you must refuse that order. If you do not, then you have sold your soul and you are in fact commiting treason.
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July 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Morons cannot think straight. Slavery is alive and well in America. It will not last long.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
The tax will probably be in addition to a gasoline tax.Instead of out and out raising taxes every bill passed is a revenue bill for the transfer of money from us to them.
We should have a world wide don’t work day,don’t shop day,don’t spend any money,don’t send checks,pay bills etc. They’ll say we will bring the world’s economy down with such actions but,so what?. They have orchestrated this whole economy and have purposely orchestrated all of this just like they did the depression.
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
If I get pulled over and get a ticket I will be forced to kill the cop and burn his car with his body in it. I carry a large amount of gasoline for the very purpose to take revenge on my enemies. I have beaten a cop who tried to charge me with DWI because I f-cked his girlfriend.
Bad Dawg Reply:
July 4th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Dude, please go play in traffic or something… I dont want myself to be linked to a nutcase like yourself nor do I want a comment like that linked to a website I frequent.
I hope your I.P. is tracked and you are arrested for the ignorant crimes= you profess to have done.
If your joking around, your comment is not funny and you are still an idiot.
If you are a FED trying to stir things up- Please remember that we are exercising our right to Free Speech and Peaceful Assembly (albeit in an electronic manner) and we are all well aware that you monitor these boards (and we welcome you here and hope you learn something truly valuable through the news and opinions on this website) but please do not post things like this in hopes of having some moron agree with you so that you may “bust him” for saying something stupid. That should be beneath you, it should be entrapment (although I know it isnt) and your giving all of us a bad name.
Thanks
July 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
I say we all go back to horses and buggies…. let them poop all over the roads… ! HA!
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 am
What is the militia? The term “militia” consists of two parts: the organized militia and the unorganized militia. According to the organic Maine Constitution and backed by the United States Code, the organized militia is the standing military force in the state (the “State Guard”) while the unorganized militia (which is commonly called the militia) consists of all other males between the ages of 17 and 45 (or 65 if they have prior military service). The militia was established for the purpose of defending the state (a sovereign nation) and the United States of America (a union of nations) from all enemies “foreign and domestic” based upon principles of community self defense established hundreds of years before the nation was formed. However, while the organized militia was tasked with the defenses of the states, our forefathers, having just fought their own government, did not place their entire trust in the government or a standing army to protect them but reserved the right and the means to protect themselves – thus the unorganized militia. The militia was and is a defensive body set up so that its members can take care of normal peace by internal lawless elements, or government usurpation of the rights and power of the people guaranteed by the Constitution, there is a group of people that owe their allegiance to no one except God and their fellow Americans who desire to remain free.
The mission and purpose of the militia have not changed. What has changed is the status of the organized militia. The “State Guard” with the duty and obligation of protecting the state is now under federal jurisdiction (the “National Guard”) thereby obligating it only to the federal government making the unorganized militia the only constitutional force available for the defense of the state.
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 am
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July 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 am
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July 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 am
##PETITION OF THE CITIZENS OF EUROPEAN UNION COUNTRIES AGAINST LISBON TREATY RATIFICATION##
Sign:
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Ben Reply:
July 3rd, 2009 at 6:15 am
Thanks for the link. I signed the petition and I will forward it to several friends.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
July 4th, 2009 at 1:28 am
GPS systems are in our cars only so that the Government can track down whoever they feel is a threat, it has nothing to do with the government giving a shit about the american people. If they gave a rats ass they would stop giving aid to illegals, and to all these overseas interests and would help out their own many of whom are living in the streets. As to a tax by the mile,, this only proves further how ignorantthe government is. Taxing those who make their living through delivery etc would make it almost impossible to gain any profit thus making them go out of business. So much for the pursuit of happiness, liberty and what not. They are attempting to rape America. It’s time to put our foot down and say enough is enough fools.
July 4th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Sounds like a way for people to buy less fuel-efficient vehicles as long as they don’t drive them too much. Could Ford and Hummer be behind this? Then a Hybrid might pay more than a Hummer, just because of mileage and not because of fossil fuels.
July 4th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Its certainly for tracking and nothing else- Although at first they will go to great pains to assure the masses that “Nobody will track you with this technology” blah, blah.
Picture this scenario if you will.
Police have been watching a Known drug house and an informant tells them when a shipment of (insert drug of choice here) is coming in. Police try to attain a warrant to monitor all GPS activity at said Drug house for a major drug investigation.
A buy is set up and made to secure the warrant but rather than make an arrest its more adventurous for the Police to now follow all cars that “pulled in the driveway” for any “amount of time” and expand the investigation to other homes. So, 50 cars pulled in during the OP, they are data based, checked out, etc. instantly and “persons of interest” now followed in real time to their homes which can in turn expand the investigation even further.
Now, they have all this info, all these patterns, all these people who they know EXACTLY when to “pull over ” on a seemingly random stop to bust them with the “most” (insert form of contraband here).
From 1 drug house you could literally follow a trail of drugs and money (whatever) across the Country and net thousands of busts that appear “random” and thus the “Ring” would not even be aware of Surveillance going on in their circle.
NOW- thats the way it will eventually be sold to the public. A tool Law Enforcement NEEDS to stop drugs and save the children.
We all know how it will really be used.=P
July 4th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Lets just stop being screwed by all these American Politicians and tar and feather the bastards -enough is enough !
July 4th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
how come all comments have to be approved on this site? Is this censorship?
July 4th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Time for real solution time to prepare for freedom fight. Liberty tree radio.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Hell, by 2020 they can come up with better than this. How about a system in vehicles that not only tracks the number of miles one drives, but can also deduct the taxes from your bank account after each mile marker has been passed? Oh, and if your bank account is empty? Your vehicle stops operating. Ut oh. I think I could work for the government with my imagination running rampant as it is.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
This is where we take a lesson from architecture. Most buildings can weaken or even negate signals from cell phones. That said, if we can find out what materials do this, well, see where I’m going???????
July 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Its obvious, THEY WANT CIVIL WAR.
razor Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I don’t think there will be a civil war but I do think it will be us against the government. They wear uniforms…we don’t, they march in formation, we shoot from behind trees, no one will help them when their in trouble, Americans will help Americans. End story..Government loses, WE WIN!
July 5th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I hope neil boortz and other proponents of a “fairtax” are happy
July 6th, 2009 at 11:40 am
I find it interesting that just when a company in Florida starts modifying cars to run on water they want to replace gas taxes with per mile taxes.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
what ever they come up with will be deprogrammed and rendered useless…..guaranteed!