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California City May Install License Plate Cameras
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Demian Bulwa
San Francisco Chronicle
July 11, 2009
San Francisco Chronicle
July 11, 2009
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The posh and picturesque town that juts into San Francisco Bay is poised to do something unprecedented: use cameras to record the license plate number of every vehicle that crosses city limits.
Some residents describe the plan as a commonsense way to thwart thieves, most of whom come from out of town. Others see an electronic border gate and worry that the project will only reinforce Tiburon’s image of exclusivity and snootiness.
“I personally don’t see too much harm in it, because I have nothing to hide,” commodities broker Paul Lambert, 64, said after a trip to Boardwalk Market in downtown Tiburon on a recent afternoon.
“Yet,” he said, “it still has the taint of Big Brother.”
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July 11th, 2009 at 11:48 am
to all that say they have nothing to hide: Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. But there will come a time in your life when you wont want the world to know something about you, and you’ll be found out because of that attitude that you’re better than everybody else. Just remember, nobody is perfect and we all slip, however innocently, and you will regret that holier than thou bullshit. Count your fucking days. I hope I’m there to watch. The taller they are, the harder they fall. Your arrogance will be your court room, and the jury will find you guilty.
Jimbo Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
It doesn’t even matter if he has something to hide or not. All he has to do is have an opinion that does not coincide with the mainstream way of thinking, and they can take him to Gitmo, or declare him mentally ill and put him in a nuthouse for the rest of his life.
Tim Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
9/11 Cover Is Blown – British and Saudi Intelligence are Culprits
It gets better – Bush helped coverup
Intelligence Report here:
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/10997
jb Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
“Why passports? Why immigration restrictions? … for what reason? Only to show the omnipotence of the state, the bureaucrat. Bureaucracy has come to stay, it has become the great and mighty ruler of the world. It has come to stay to whip human beings into discipline and make them numbers … the next stage will be the branding of registration numbers upon the back, so that no mistake can be made as to the true nationality of the insect … Expanding markets and making large profits are a religion. It’s the oldest religion perhaps, for it has the best-trained priests, and it has the most beautiful churches; yes, sir.” ~ B. Traven. The Death Ship (Lawrence Hill Books, 1991), p. 216, as cited by St. Drogo, June 4, 2008 10:20 AM, retrieved Jul. 12, 2009 .
Anihilus Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1wmPQA0QA
Cheeks Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I’ll just ride my bicycle yeah!
showmebby Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Roaddog I dont always agree with what you say, but on this one I have to. This is the exact reason why I quit wearing poplos and nice pants. Why Ive quit going to every party, or getogether. I do believe now that the more we conform, and try to be apart of the crowd, are skeletons in the closet pile up. Be sure that your sins will find you out. That does not mean I want these assholes watching our every move through life.
Some people screw up in life. Sometimes this is how we learn , and become better people. This is life. the things I do is my life. If I cant learn when I do something wrong that God doesnt bless my sin , and that my sin or “carma”if you will, catches up to you. Then I have failed the test. To always be prodded , and taxed as I do right , and wrong. How as a people do we ever really know how to live.
This is not LBERTY; this is SLAVERY. I for one think this a much better world if there where no cammeras, Tv, computer, religion. That we instead carried a big stick, yet loved one another. Knowing that if we steal, cheat, murder, cause malice, that the guy next to us might just woop us. Now we go into the cage, and are prodded and poked. With taxes, and Ideas. We are incouraged to be immoral to appear normal. NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LIVE THEIR WAY. Welcome to 1985 bitches.
—FREE HUMANITY—
justwondering Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Well, without religion, we wouldn’t be here unless you think we came from some form of a amoeba or an ape; by the way, if we came from apes, why are there still apes living in the jungles? I have to agree with you on the rest of it though. Religion gives me some kind of hope for a better world. Actually, it’s believing in God that gives me hope.
justwondering Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
And besides roaddog, all “they” have to do is suspect you are guilty of whatever, like in the movie “Enemy of the State”, and they’ve got you and then it is up to YOU to prove your innocence.
Badmachine Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
I love california it’s where I live but this is going to far if I did not live so close to the beach I would bail Fn jerks
July 11th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkZa4lbXExo
chemtrails bieng flown over maine 7/11/09,
please view and share maine is a predominantly rural state w a population of 1 to 1.5 million people
Not On My Watch Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
I believe you because I live here.I see the trails both Chem and Condensation.I also notice the abnormal weather this year. 2 Icestorms and enough rainfall that in Mid July areas of my farm that should be dust are swamped out.Global warming my ass. 5 days out of the last 40 without rain and I have to wear a coat on July Evenings? Where’s it warming? Sad when it’s legal to Aerosol Chemicals that probably kill us from planes yet illegal to shoot the damned things out of the sky.If a man sat there with his friends raping your mother and his friends agreed that it was LEGAL for them to do it would it stop you from killing them all?
Jason Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Chemtrails are all BS started by William Thomason the old Art Bell show.
Thor007 Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Chemtrails are not BS. Pull your head out of the sand and look up!!
July 11th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Saying “I have nothing to hide” is the same self-deprecating idiocy as saying “I have no privacy rights”; sane people couldn’t utter that sort of nonsense.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
July 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
The “nothing to hide” twit is implying that anyone who doesn’t like it DOES have something to hide. I bet this dingbat closes the stall door when he’s using the toilet. If he’s got nothing to hide, he shouldn’t. We all know what goes on behind closed stall doors, he shouldn’t have anything to hide should he?
jdogg92056 Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Word, yo! People with “nothing to hide” should place all their valuables on their kitchen tables and open all their drapes and also leave their doors unlocked. I mean, they’ve “nothing to hide”, right?
July 11th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
They already have been doing that in California. In the valley certain stoplights take a picture of your car if its in the center during a red light. OH NO BIG BROTHER
AntiworldGovt Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
those r everywhere
July 11th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
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July 11th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I lived in Tiburon Ca as a child growing up, saw the moon landing at the school there when I was in second grade, It was a great little boat building community, used to ride my bick along the shore, sometimes take the ferry to Angle Island, fishing at Elephent rock, wonderfull memories growing up there. I went back many years later as an Adult only to discover Condiminiums EVERYWHERE, all the little shops where now high end art galleries and boutiques, The Article is right, Very SNOOTY, I was heart broken, but still nice to read about Tiburon.
jeni Reply:
July 11th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
dear grew up in marin – i share your memories and have my own, and they still keep me here, but suspect many others heartbroken too as marin has become another beautiful place for sale to the highest bidder, new wave of people who seem to care more about money and the illusions it buys than the simple beauties of life in this geographic jewel of a place. the heartbreak it seems is this is home, the land, trees, salty water, plants are part of me. suppose i have nothing to complain about when i think of the native americans, but am often pausing to think how so sadly changed here. peace & love only . .
roaddog Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
jeni—I lived in san rafael for a couple of years. Went to san rafael high in the 9th grade 1974. small world.
July 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
This 3rd world Latin American country I live in is looking better every day.
July 11th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Mr. Lambert has the, “No Jews in my attic” mind set.
Governments are dangerous. Governments seek power to control us and rob us of our wealth and freedom. People who say they have nothing to hide don’t know their history.
It,s just a matter of time when all but the sorriest slave will have something to hide.
July 11th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
I have a problem with it. I have EVERYTHING to hide.
Me and Judge Napolitano.
July 11th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I glad I don’t live in California! California sucks! Minnesota FTW because MN prohibit from cities having install cameras such as red-light program, speed camera and even license plate cameras.
July 11th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
we as patriots must surely understand that these “men”, the globalists or internationalists have ever so slowly pushed our republic towards a corporate run government…as in the banking, military industrial complex, oil industry,and many other corporate entity’s…our right’s have been stolen from us on our day of birth via the “birth certificate” and further subjugate us to indentured servitude through the social security act….privately controlled foreign banksters owning our freedom through the mother of all corporations ” The UNITED STATES of AMERICA”…..lies that put us under “policys” of this “corporate” entity. It’s all a word game, words having two different understood meanings…playing the most intelligent of us to thinking we really know shit…when in fact our world runs on lies…beyond our deceitful comprehension. Look into Admiralty Law….and Common Law…and learn some things that will really….ummm…let’s say will really upset you….god bless the republic…and all who defend the idea and concept of freedom…and a constitutional republic…as this concept is the reality of human progression, and cannot, and will not be stopped. Perpetual Liberty!
July 12th, 2009 at 12:11 am
I live in california and ive been looking for nerby locations
for one of the millitias but i cant find any contact info so i can sign up.
can anyone PLEASE help me; im running out of options?
This American Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Your nearest BATF office or Fusion Center would likely have the information you need.
July 12th, 2009 at 9:54 am
While one can always find some’good’ that might come from using such systems as in the article, I think at the same time in this climate we are living in, where people (over 1 MILLION???) end up on a ‘no fly list’ simply because of their political and or religous beliefs, it is important to be constantly vigilant of the ever encroaching methods of The War on Privacy.
History has shown over and over that all sorts of people that had ‘nothing to hide’ were targeted by the MILLIONS for abuse and death simply because they were ‘in the way’ either physically or simply though their beliefs or faith.
Dictators everywhere agree, “if you have nothing to hide” why worry—Hitler, Stalin, and Mao
July 12th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
HAHAHAHA!
A COMMODITIES TRADER with nothing to hide….
July 12th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
It just kills me when people say “Oh, I don’t care if they (insert any number of civil rights violations here) have anything to hide” it does’nt matter whether you have anything to hide or not, that should’nt even be an issue. The issue is that our (former) Bill of Rights is SUPPOSED to protect us from this kind of bullshit. The stupid fucking TV brainwashed idiots just don’t get it do they ??????
Kill the Fed Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Nope they don’t get it. These are the same people who say 9-11 couldn’t be an inside job because it would take hundreds or thousands of people to pull this conspiracy off, yet at the same time they believe 19 arabs led by a caveman did it. The boob tube has taken away the citizens ability to think critically, logically and for themselves. If it ain’t on TV, it didn’t happen.
July 13th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Sorry Mr. Lambert, but you don’t reside on top of the mountain. We ALL have something to hide.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
A commodity broker still thinks, (like most other white-collars
and professionals) that the gov’t and police WORK FOR THEM.
Hence they believe because they are upper middle class the
system’s purpose is TO PROTECT THEM AND THEIR INTERESTS.
This group, the upper middle to lower “high class” earners and
business-owners, are perhaps the STUPIDEST individuals when
it comes to understanding anything about the New World Order,
BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY’RE “ELITES”, TOO.
In reality those people are the ones being LOOTED of their
portfolios, salaries and benefits. Just because they can cruise
under a license plate camera in their BMW they think they’re
privileged characters. WAKE UP, YUPPIES! Those cameras are
not just there for a poor working Mom in a beat up Toyota who
can’t afford to renew her license.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
They have no business doing this. I call on Police Officers: refuse unconstitutional orders, observe your oath! Have some integrity! As for everyone else, raise hell! Boycott fascist and communist totalitarian corporations, especially the corporate media whores. Boycott towns like this.
I once moved into an apartment complex, a fairly fancy one, in which they had the cops there every day cataloging every license plate in the parking lot. I asked the arpartment corporation to be reasonable and they refused. I then took advantage of their promise to let anyone who was not happy with the complex during the first month move out without any strings. They said that I was the first one to ever do that. I am proud that I did so. Move out of fascist and communist totalitarian towns and cites. Let them become ghost towns. They are already run by ghouls.
July 13th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Time for the old mud on the license plate trick, I think.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
This is all about CONTROL AND POWER! This is the same thing as the IBM Smart Grid Technology, they tell you it’s good for you and us and it will help fix the world! It’s just a sales pitch to get the public to go along with it.. after they get all of this N.W.O. stuff in place and people start waking up and realizing that we are being controlled it will be too late to do anything.. this is all about them watching you, telling you what to eat, how much power you can use, etc. etc…
If you don’t believe me just wait and see… all these people screaming “ah, it’s just a conspiracy theory” will be eating those words when it too late!
go here and listen to this guy, it will open your mind to the world around you!
http://corruption.mypodcast.co.....09707.html
July 14th, 2009 at 1:28 am
That’s the typical moron mind-fuck response like he hasn’t read the constitution before while subconsciously making you think you should have nothing to hide and to let them authoritarian figure fucks ransack your privacy and right to a trial before convicted by a camera. Thank God for “spray your plate” which reflects the camera flash back to the lens making the exposure over exposed. Diamond plate also reflects well around the license plate………oh and tinfoil crumpled up around the edges works to…now we will have a bunch of tin foil plate wearing drivers and then add a cell phone to the mix and we have a real mess on the road.
July 14th, 2009 at 1:45 am
This system has been covertly installed in Atlanta, Georgia for quite some time. They even have the stationary plate scanners installed in mall parking lots to search for fugitives and stolen cars. http://www.ajc.com/metro/conte.....8230;..THE POLICE ARE THE CRIMINALS, THE CONSTITUTION IS DEAD.
al Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 1:46 am
http://www.elsagna.com/
July 14th, 2009 at 1:48 am
http://www.ajc.com/metro/conte.....anner.html
July 14th, 2009 at 1:52 am
I’ve formed an out of state corporate entity in whose name I register ALL my vehicles. Screw the police, we need to stay a few steps ahead of the sorry bastards.
July 14th, 2009 at 2:03 am
The best way to screw the plate reader system is to ”borrow” license plates and nail them to utility poles – it’s hilarious watching cops do 180s to chase a ghost.
July 14th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
I live in cali and I just dont put on my license plates. i have been pulled over for it 2 times in one year. Ohh nooos a 20 dollar fix it ticket. The way i look at it, Im keeping those pigs from harassing other people cuz it takes almost a half hour to run a vin number. I dont even speak to the gestapo anymore……I roll down the window a crack and present my papers. Sure they ask questions but you do NOT have to answer. I just shrug my shoulders and stare at them. then they realize that im not gonna say shit and go run my info. All they do is “solicit” information and you are not obligated to comply. My next step is to keep a small netbook in the car at all times with a high def webcam so i can record every time they harass me. Oh, and in Poway california, on EVERY traffic light there are cameras, not normal cameras, high tech ones. and they are NOT red light cameras. I am pretty sure they are biometric / license plate cams. Anyone else notice on random street lights there is a grey box with an antenna that points down? it has nothing to do with the light thats for sure. I guess it may be some kind of audio surveillance device….they are all over residential neighborhoods. FUCK big brother.
July 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Fear is the foundation of most governments -John Adams
July 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
The happiness of society is the end of government.
John Adams
July 14th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
I’ve thought of rigging a system to pop up an opaque shield in front of my license plate at the press of a button.
Kimbo Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
They do have at Spencers Gifts an “automated hand” that you can stick to your back window. With a remote control, you can do ANY finger gesture. Yes… even the middle one. Press that for the man!! I saw it on sale recently for like 20 bucks. So great!
July 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Lets put a camera in that guys house and see how much ‘he doesn’t mind’
July 14th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Same idiot a few years from now: “I personally don’t see too much harm in it, because I have nothing to hide,” commodities broker Paul Lambert, 64, said after being bent over a table during a cavity search.
Jmceloim Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 1:34 am
LOL! ” during a cavity search” …..in which they found a hidden camera
Robert Stack Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:55 am
FULL CAVITY SEARCH! GO HARD & DEEP!
July 14th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
California “MAY” install license plate cameras? HA HA. This is nothing new. In my town, they are all over the place. At first I thought it was a traffic control device mounted above the traffic signal. Then I realized what they are for real. I even saw a mobile unit the other day mounted on the roof of a squad car. This is the first one I have actually seen on a cop car… not mounted on the front bumper. All kinds of impressive gadgets and antennas all over this contraption. I do know they have been in use in Rancho Cuca. P.D. for quite sometime. They are all proud of it. A big newspaper article on the first installation a few years ago. The main intersection of my apt. complex has those nice little signal mounted cameras. I like to smile pretty for it while I pick my nose for the camera. Just to change it up a little when I am not giving it “the bird”.
July 15th, 2009 at 5:36 am
If they take a picture of your license plate, you could be setup and accused of a crime you did not commit. “Hey, we have your plate at the scene of the crime!” How would you fight that!”
Remember, Photoshop can alter and add to ANY picture ANYTHING incriminating! So, you have a LOT TO WORRY ABOUT.
What do these idiots think in California? Now that the criminals know about the cameras, do they think they won’t find a way to steal a car to get inside the city? Duh! They could also switch license plates. Duh! Duh!
This whole situation is a setup to track you and me….PERIOD.
Smile for the cameras everyone…..
July 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
go to sprayyourplate.com. Buy the product so the camera cannot see license plate on car. Also cover it when you get to the entry points drive through and remove covering on plate.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
everytime you log your information into these sites your are probably putting your name on a list. Everytime you buy an Alex Jones T shirt you are putting a target on your chest. maybe people like alex jones are knowingly or unknowingly assembling the list of American terrorist for data mining operations.
Ben Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Data mining without valid warrant will be ferociously punished after we get rid of the control grid.
Pack a gun and pay no tax.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
“I’ve got noghting to hide”…. famous last words of a once free country…
July 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
This old technology is another diversion of a much more advanced program already in order. See Michael Riconoscuito Promise project developed in the 80s he was set up they murdered his friends threw him on PRISON and stripped everyone around him of there rights As they did myself in 1985 86 also see the developer of the neurophone who they also did the same so they could use it. We out number them GANDI
July 15th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Money must not be too short in Tiburon…California is issuing IOUs while Tiburon plans to fritter away money on cameras. No complaints here…its theirs to waste. Remember, these are the people who got ripped by ENRON and elected the Nazi pin-up boy governor. Ride the Bubble California…Ride the Big Bubble!
FUBAR REPUBLIC Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:57 am
What do you think that $14.8 Tril is being used for?
July 16th, 2009 at 11:21 am
BUT, my house has walls, not made of glass. My doors close & lock. That I have nothing to hide does not mean I want people all up in my business. Those who ask ” Whats wrong? Do you have something to hide?” wouldnt allow ME to go rummaging thru their lives, they just want to snoop in mine. Assholes..& gutless idiots who have no understanding of freedom would allow it, because they have nothing to hide,, morons..