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Canadian Govt Poised to Fall After Less Than 2 Months
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Jane Taber, Bill Curry, Campbell Clark and Steven Chase
Globe and Mail Update
December 2, 2008
OTTAWA — The leaders of the three opposition parties presented their plan to topple Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s minority government at a press conference in Ottawa late Monday afternoon.
The leaders of the Liberal Party, the New Democratic Party and the Bloc Québécois publicly signed a coaltion accord and sent a letter to Governor-General Michaëlle Jean saying the opposition has lost confidence in the Conservatives.
The proposed coalition government between the Liberals and the New Democratic Party would last until June of 2011, but the Bloc is only pledging support for 18 months.
Under the plan, Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion would become prime minister until May, when his successor would take over.
"Canadians elected 308 members of Parliament in October, not just Stephen Harper," Mr. Dion told a news conference with NDP Leader Jack Layton and Bloc chief Gilles Duceppe. "We are ready to form a new government that will address the best interests of the people instead of plunging Canadians into another election."
The coalition accord stipulates that the prime minister and finance minister would be Liberals, with six of 24 cabinet positions filled by New Democrats.
Earlier Monday, the three candidates running for the Liberal leadership emerged from a closed-door caucus meeting to endorse Mr. Dion as head of the proposed coalition government, which they said would pour billions of dollars into the economy.
Standing side-by-side, Michael Ignatieff, Bob Rae and Dominic LeBlanc made clear they see no scenario in which the Conservative minority can remain in power. "There’s no turning back," Mr. Rae said.
The three Liberal leadership candidates said there is no deal to place them in cabinet, but Mr. LeBlanc and Mr. Rae noted there are several precedents for sitting cabinet ministers vying for the leadership.
"I support the accord because it’s fiscally responsible, it provides responsible economic leadership in tough times and it also conserves the basic principles of national unity, equality, that our party has always believed in," Mr. Ignatieff said. "We are at one, the three of us, that the only person that can lead the country is the duly elected leader of the party, Mr. Stéphane Dion."
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December 2nd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
im so glad we pissed 400 million away on a election that nobody gained seats. nothing changed, nobody won, we all lost and now we’re out 400 million. that is websters definition of government spending.
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:41 pm
This ain’t democracy
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
YOU ALL NEED TO KNOW THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A COUNTRY BUT THE UNITED
STATES IS ALSO A CORPERATION AND YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE (OR SUB-CORPORATION) OF THE UNITED STATES CORPORATION. NEED PROOF? LOOK AT YOUR BIRTH CIRTIFICATE IT HAS YOUR NAME IN ALL CAPITOL LETTERS BECAUSE YOU ARE A SLAVE CORPORATION WORKING FOR THE
MASTER CORPORATION, THE UNITED STATES CORPORATION!! NEED MORE PROOF???????????
GOOGLE JORDAN MAXWELL OR GO TO thinkfree.ca AND YOU WILL SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP AND EDUCATE YOURSELF CAUSE THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
I have to agree. This isn’t democracy. I have to wonder if its even legal?
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Yeehaw, just in time to join the chaos of the US and Mexico. Here comes the North American Union, martial law, fema camps and rescue currency the Amero. Pictures of the amero can be seen at uaff.us. Minted in Denver, i think. Do we get to pick which Rex 84 camp to attend………..permanently. Get me a beer quick so I can pack. Yours, TCB
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Hey NWO Fighter, I’m still pouring through the thinkfree.ca website and others similar to it. I’ve watched Robert Menard’s (sp?) talks on the net as well; need to see them again.
How do we get out of the grips of involunatirly working for these shitty corporations (countries) that are killing us? I know we can renounce (not sure if that’s the right word or not) our social insurance numbers, but how does an employer (a real employer of our choosing) deal with that?
Help free us with any info you can provide.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Where’s my posts Alex and crew?
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:23 pm
It’s really great to see any gov’t fall. Wish this one would.
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Who are we really? What are we truly capable of?
If you are curious in mind over matter this might apply to you. If you are not, maybe the subject deserves another look?
OLD PARADIGM
Brain is seperate from body
Man is isolated from his body and his world
Time and Space are finite orders
NEW PARADIGM
Living Consciousness is not an isolated entity
Things are indivisible
We think, therefore effect
Under the scientific law of observation, nothing is in its final state and everything is affected by those who perceive it. Subatomic particles communicate in various ways. One way is through photons, emitted light, that can even cover large physical distances and still be received with specific messages.
THIS IS PROVEN SCIENCE NO ONE TALKS ABOUT
http://www.livingthefield.com/.....0Field.pdf
I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything.
I just feel that we have been lied to and brainwashed so long that it is time to offer TRUE, REAL solutions to those who are open enough to seek and evaluate concepts by themselves.
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:51 pm
Vibration, you don’t need to convince me, I have read this too and believe it.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Interesting, I posted a longer comment earlier that the CBC refused to post on CBC.ca, and guess what? It’s been removed!
Alex, I thought we were on the same team. Can someone at Infowars explain why my lengthy post was removed? Especially given all the no-mind religious freaks babble on and on here at infowars.com.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:22 pm
@ Michelle jean.
Because everything sucks, And will continue to suck for all eternity, Regardless of what you do.
I would ask them About that, though. Really.
Go on CBC.
Here’s A Little thing I wrote : my parents.
I Spend All my waking hours telling people how they’re wrong just so they can call me contradictory. Why do I keep at it ? It’s not fun but it’s a bunch of finite problems, and they all stop when I will eventually die, leaving behind at least that I tried. You can ignore this fact, but you become a category 1 person in my flowchart.
Start – There are problems 1 : Delude yourself into thinking you’re a good guy to some extent ( Everybody does this. ) 2 : Admit that you don’t want to deal with them and label yourself evil. 3 : Be good until you knowingly leave category 3.
CHOOSE WISELY OR ELSE I’LL CHOOSE FOR YOU.
Don’t commit No Suicide now, Have a nice eternity.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:16 pm
The people should be the only ones that can overthrow a government…not scwabbling politicians that cant get along based purely on their ego and dislike for one another.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm
So Harper pushed too hard with a minority thinking the opposition couldn’t take another election so soon with their funds drained and lost the gamble. They won’t do another election, they will just take over. This IS LEGAL and completely allowed. Any combination of parties can form a government as long as they have the “confidence of the house” (ie. the majority of the 308 MPs).
This could work in our anti-NWO favour if we preasure them.
1) The NDP are against the NAU, the Liberals are for it. No progress there so the NAU could stall.
2) The NDP want to bring our troops back from Afghanistan in 2009 not in 2011 so the Liberals may cave in on that one.
3) The Bloq Quebecois want all GMO foods labeled as such!
Now all the news is not great because both the Liberals and the NDP are in favour of the carbon tax and gun control.
Now will ANY of the parties do something about the MP pension plan that is so extravagant that it would be illegal if it were in the private sector? There is the true test!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:33 pm
I cant belive this is happening in my own country. AS much as I dont care for our Prime Minister,
(Stephan Harper), He was voted in a fair election. This is making me sick
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:10 am
This actually a pretty wonderful devolopment – for those of you who posted that this isn’t democarcy or questioned if it is legal –
– YES – it is legal – is is an example of parliamentary democracy actually working! the MP’s proposing a coalition WERE all elected fairly –
Stephen Harper – the globalist Neo-con; apologist for the Busharchy is about to be toppled by parliament (the voice of the people)
YAAAAYYY I say
David Stewart
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:06 am
read rise of the fourth reich for an amazing tour of history and google you tube video linkin park what i have done for a rock and roll version of same. best to all, alltrue in the usa…unfortunately right now, not the place to be.
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:17 am
michelle S.
not having a SIN number actually just makes for less paper work with your employer. there is no legal requirement for any type of registration, that is voluntary. your job may not understand, but they have no choice.
however, u cant just go on videos alone. if you want to declare yourself a sovereign individual, you need to do your due dilligence and study this info for years, and become master of law, or you will get yourself in heaps of trouble.
menard will put out a film soon about every step you need in securing your person. you will need a notice of intent and a claim of right before you can do anything.
if ur serious, go buy a ‘black’s law dicitionary’ i think the 5th edition is best.. its like 100 bucks. start learning the meanings of legal words like ‘citation’ ‘remedy’ ’statute’ ‘bond’ ‘registration’ ‘understanding’ ‘person’ etc..
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 am
lol @ the ‘globe and mail’
i wouldnt wipe my ass with that rag if it was the last paper product in the province
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 am
while the truth is hidden, the lies are in our faces. Walk away people. Its the only moral thing to do. Jesus, Buddah, just about every spiritual teacher told us, do not fight, turn the other cheek. You ever think maybe they had a good reason. When we stop fighting them and walk away they have no power over us. Stop spending their dollars. Stop using the banks. Stop using the stores. Stop supporting it all. As long as you have an address you are supporting them. Walk away. Stop wasting your lives slaving over worthless paper. the bankers are laughing at all of us. Because even the ones of us who know whats going on are supporting their fake economy. Right now you are using their electricity, eating their food, living in their house, on their land, driving the car the made, working for the paper they give you. All of us are. Walk away, its the only revolution. Go on an extended camping trip to the national forest, nature provides everything we need. Did the native americans have central banks, economies, cities and a/c or laptops. No they had the earth. That is gods world. Dont rot your live away in mans world, go into nature she provides it all, go where they wont go looking, get out before martial law, before the prison society. do it now for your children. When did Noah build the ark? Before the rain.
The Man
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 am
The Man writes and advise’s everyone to walk away from the city’s
and live in the woods and mountains. You are typing your message
out on your computer that is connected to the Internet. Looks like you
have not left the “Grid” to far behind yourself does it ? You make it
all sound easy to just go out and camp in the woods. What about eating,
and Clothes, and a million other things that people and families need to live ?
Also, do you really think we’ll give up our Chocolate Bars and Soda’s ? and
not to mention our Computers ! You certainly have not given up your computer,
have you…
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:48 am
Any public official who participates in a secret meeting behind closed doors should be arrested on conspiracy charges!
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:08 am
#23 i agree totally…
in fact, i think every ballot should have an option box to tick that says:
“I demand an investigation”
or
” no confidence”
or even
“hang the bastards!”
these cfr sucking bilderbishes would LONG for the good ol’ days of voter apathy.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:49 am
22
tell me the million things humans need to live. you cant. there is a bigger picture and what you are doing is prolonging the illusion that we need anything besides food water and a shelter from the elements to survive, and that certainly is not the case.
you can argue and say that im telling you the right way to live or you can take it for what it is, thats you perogative. im not saying to leave everything you know on the spot. just run it through your head so you have an idea of what you need to do when the time comes. dont be an idiot make everything into an arguement.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:58 am
#21 – are you writing that on a wooden computer you carved out in the woods?? lol
i agree that would be good way to take them down but not the only one! you cant have 290 million people living ‘in the woods’ either cos the food would run out instantly. and lets face it, 99% of people would starve because they’ve been conditioned to think food comes from a supermarket in plastic wrapping, most couldnt even sharpen a dam stick with a blade or make a fire, let alone ’survive’ – stop fantasizing and be constructive.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Also running away into the trees when the poo hits the fan is not the way to handle a crisis – that does not mean people shouldnt learn about survival, by all means do it – but if say, a revolution kicks in from the people, they need stick around and stick together united in stopping the cronies building up there awful regime again, and hold those resposible to account for there part in the destruction of a once great nation. people will also need to immediatley establish a new gov of REAL working class people, not people who have bought there way into power.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
The man does have a point!
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Jake,
I’m just pointing out the facts of hospitals for emergencies, women and children. Of course men can live in the mountains and woods. I’ve been all over the world, in the Army, I’ve lived out in the woods. It’s not a pick-nick to say the least. Toilet paper to wipe with, and a place to go in all kinds of weather – You know what I mean. That kind of life gets old real fast. Any one who has ever camped out already knows that. My position is that I do not think we should want to go backwards into life styles. Why should the Majority of the Population let a few idiots and suicidal maniac’s cause us to go back to living a stone-age type of a lifestyle. Of course we all know we all need to be prepared for Any Worse Case Scenerio. There are a Zillion possible worse case scenerio’s that any of us could have to go through tomorrow. We cannot cross any bridges until we come to them though. I think the peoples of the world are spooked enough with war and dissaster talk. Why should we let the maniac’s control the Main Direction and Agenda for the whole World. It is not just America that needs to chill out, The American Leaders need to stop bombing every country that pop’s up on their radar screen. That would go a long way towards settling the whole planet down. All of us should Adjust our “Tack” and our Sails on our ships of life, and try as best as we can to Project some type of Sanity in this Crazy World. You or I or any of us could Constantly Shout “FIRE” and gloom and doom, and run for the hills etc. I’m just trying to say that I think we should all keep our shirts on, and not start ripping them off like we’re all Hulk Hogan in a wrestling match. None of us can cross any bridge in life until we come to it. All we can do is to try and be prepared to be successful in whatever life throws at us.
Peace – Go in peace and try and help others as best as we all can.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
awww, man! my igloo is melting….
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:44 pm
The worst thing about this whole situation is the coalition has been made with a party whose only goal is separation.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:22 pm
YOURE ALL FUCKING RETARDS… HARPER LOVES BUSH ENOUPH SAID. GET THAT BUSH LOVIN MOTHER FUCKER OUTA THERE… SEPRATISTS HEY….. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE ISSUES BEHIND THAT?… LET THEM SEPARATE … WHO CARES …………..RELIGEON WILL SAVE NOBODY, THATS YOU #21..PULL YOURE HEAD OTTA YOUR ASS OR DO YOU LIKE THE SMELL OF SHIT
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Hey no relgeon ,no wars “SEPRATISTS HEY….. DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE ISSUES BEHIND THAT?” Are you kidding me?? What, are you some dork who climbed out of a cave last week. Are you even old enough to wipe your own ass or does you mommy still do that for you? You jerks with no brains shouldn’t even bother wasting your time thinking you know anything about politics let alone Levesque and Les Pequiste. Four les toi dans cul grosse tapette!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
fuck all the parties involved. This will be a blatent dictatorship…NO election, sorry…
Its bad up here, getting worse
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:58 pm
At the end of the day, these guys are all the problem. You can’t trust any of these guys. They are all power hungry and serve the bank cartel whether they are Liberals, Conservatives or NDP. They all march to the same song. The same tree just different branches. Same down there in the US.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:37 am
Like their next door neighbors the Germans; the French are either at your feet, or at your throat!
December 4th, 2008 at 12:49 am
‘Allo Allo??
December 4th, 2008 at 1:17 am
Hey Michelle: Yeah my stuff got censored as well. As sincere as I believe Alex Jones to be, he can’t do it al. As a result this site has been infiltrated by the usual eunuchs.
December 4th, 2008 at 2:06 am
Wow, there’s some serious misunderstanding of the situation here. Harper may be part of the NWO but I’m not 100% convinced. The NDP has supporters that are truthers but the party philosophy is statist, but the Liberal Party is the worst though. This crisis is about taxpayer subsidies being cut off and the opposition that depends on them is furious. The Liberal Party was almost entirely supported by corporate interests until former Liberal Prime Minister Jean Chretien changed the rules to get back at his leadership rival Paul Martin just as he left office. That was pettiness but got corporate financing out of things but replaced it with a subsidy of $1.95 per vote paid after the election in quarterly installments based on their election performance. The parties also get reimbursed a large percentage of their election expenses if they do decently but that is separate from the subsidies. The only donations allowed are supposed to be $1100 per person per year plus the taxpayer funding.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:22 am
Some of your readers may find it relevent to this story that all four party leaders are Freemasons.
There is a culture of deceit, duplicity and conspiracy in Freemasonry. It is for no reason Masonry has been termed ‘the Mafia of the Mediocure’.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:24 am
http://www.petitiononline.com/.....ition.html
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The Transparency of Loyalty in Government Amendment is 325 signatures strong today, 4 Dec 2008. If this proposal were law the ramifications would TRULY be revolutionary and more effective than anything the truth/revolution movement has yet to propose. The last time this legislation was passed the US was invaded by England and the TONA was purged from American history. This IS the ORIGINAL 13th Amendment, it should be an easy sell! Please sign and support. For the love of justice PASS THIS ALONG!! I cant win this battle alone as one voice cannot be heard above the shitstorm of corporate propaganda.
If you want to know who is a corporate self serving shill sellout, send them this petition and see if they will pledge their allegiance against corruption. If you are not against corruption,you are for corruption!
December 4th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Quantum reality govt. modification. : http://patriotscave.blogspot.com/
December 4th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
This is our nations biggest disgrace! However it is serving a useful purpose. I encouraged my friends and family to not vote in this bullshit dog and pony show last time. They didn’t listen then but they are listening now! Non-compliance!
December 5th, 2008 at 5:46 am
# 40
I knew that, however I’m sure many others did not.
December 11th, 2008 at 11:28 am
F*ck the Bloc Quebecois. How are they a federal party when I can’t vote for or against them??