Comments on: Cap and Trade Will Lead to Capital Flight http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/ Because there's a war on for your mind. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:49:10 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: kiron http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1158416 kiron Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:40:59 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1158416 Silly Mr. Paul. Capital flight began over 30 years ago (thanks to deregulation) we are currently at or near the apex of it. Silly Mr. Paul.
Capital flight began over 30 years ago (thanks to deregulation) we are currently at or near the apex of it.

]]> By: MBE http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1157167 MBE Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:48:27 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1157167 It sounds like industry would get monetary aid to comply. And there probably wouldn't be a constant agent present; it would probably be much like health safety checks in restaurants, and the rules are definitely bent. I know, those evil government health inspectors are so horrible and fascistic It sounds like industry would get monetary aid to comply. And there probably wouldn’t be a constant agent present; it would probably be much like health safety checks in restaurants, and the rules are definitely bent. I know, those evil government health inspectors are so horrible and fascistic

]]> By: MBE http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1157126 MBE Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:11:46 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1157126 Of course you can get 30,000 scientists on the petition if they can come from any scientific background, including bachelor's degree only. There was one scientist in an article I was reading that had a medicine background, therefore nothing relevant to global warming. It proves nothing, and your claims that greenhouse gases do nothing are wrong Of course you can get 30,000 scientists on the petition if they can come from any scientific background, including bachelor’s degree only. There was one scientist in an article I was reading that had a medicine background, therefore nothing relevant to global warming. It proves nothing, and your claims that greenhouse gases do nothing are wrong

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]]> By: MBE http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1157083 MBE Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:39:57 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1157083 Hate's a strong word. I'm aloud to have my own opinions about what is necessary, with or without any other schemes that might be going on. It is not against freedom to think freely; I respect Ron Paul in certain respects, but there is no way I follow his complete ideology, or even most of it. Hate’s a strong word. I’m aloud to have my own opinions about what is necessary, with or without any other schemes that might be going on. It is not against freedom to think freely; I respect Ron Paul in certain respects, but there is no way I follow his complete ideology, or even most of it.

]]> By: MBE http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1157068 MBE Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:29:24 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1157068 well unless we are all willing to take personal action, institutional action is needed well unless we are all willing to take personal action, institutional action is needed

]]> By: Breathing Easy http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1156868 Breathing Easy Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:30:36 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1156868 "Crap and Trade" is simply another investment vehicle created to enrich the broker/traders and the government. While allowing some a minimal amount of "tax credits." The result will be higher ultility costs to most everyone, more bureaucracy, and another market bubble to burst and cost the tax payers 100's of billions of dollars. But there will be jobs attached to it, although these very jobs will in the end cost you more money. I found a web site by a commodities broker explaining how by not planting crops or reversing fields to "natural" grasslands will save on their carbon tax verus plowing the fields, but even that depends on how you plow the fields, not to worry because there will be a government worker there to assist you in determining the amount of carbon released from the ground if you sink a plow into it. Or "God forbid," if you actually plant a crop what your carbon footprint will be then. Of course then you buy a "hedge" against the "carbon tax" from the local commmodities broker, who makes a very nice commision. I have a reasonable and basic understanding of markets, but this is without a doubt the most confusing and totally absurd thing I have ever seen. Nothing more than another shell game. “Crap and Trade” is simply another investment vehicle created to enrich the broker/traders and the government. While allowing some a minimal amount of “tax credits.”
The result will be higher ultility costs to most everyone, more bureaucracy, and another market bubble to burst and cost the tax payers 100’s of billions of dollars. But there will be jobs attached to it, although these very jobs will in the end cost you more money.
I found a web site by a commodities broker explaining how by not planting crops or reversing fields to “natural” grasslands will save on their carbon tax verus plowing the fields, but even that depends on how you plow the fields, not to worry because there will be a government worker there to assist you in determining the amount of carbon released from the ground if you sink a plow into it. Or “God forbid,” if you actually plant a crop what your carbon footprint will be then.
Of course then you buy a “hedge” against the “carbon tax” from the local commmodities broker, who makes a very nice commision. I have a reasonable and basic understanding of markets, but this is without a doubt the most confusing and totally absurd thing I have ever seen. Nothing more than another shell game.

]]> By: Joe in Texas http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1155035 Joe in Texas Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:58:23 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1155035 Jeremy John and Madman are all right, in different ways. I am part of the 30 yo and under new military generation. All of my friends who have served have the same outlooks on this issue I have. In my father and grandfather's days, you only swore to uphold the constitution and defend it from all enemies foriegn and domestic. Now the new generation are also being asked to sign documentation that states they have no problem shooting American citizens. The rest of the folks my age are too busy hitin the bong and chasin tail to pay attention. Perhaps that is why vets are being labled possible right wing extremists by our govt. I now face(and have discussed with my military friends) the sick realization that one day I may have to stand against people I would have died for. In the military it is all about the person to your left and right. I am not surprised that civilians my age who have never had that level of responsibility do not see or want to see what is going on. If most 30 and unders truly grasped the whole of what is going on, I am sure their views on life and their priorities would be different. Also, you are truly overlooking one thing. Everyone on here is saying Iraq and Afghanistan are training for a NWO scenario. Not. We have N Korea and a possible explosion of total war in the Mid East looming. This will effectively keep the majority of fighting aged folks busy, out of country and outta the way. No offense intended, but leaving nothing but elders, housewives, and people who lack the fortitude to stand up is a perfect plan. Send all indian worriors to a battle and then rape and pillage the village. Oldest trick in the book! Jeremy John and Madman are all right, in different ways. I am part of the 30 yo and under new military generation. All of my friends who have served have the same outlooks on this issue I have. In my father and grandfather’s days, you only swore to uphold the constitution and defend it from all enemies foriegn and domestic. Now the new generation are also being asked to sign documentation that states they have no problem shooting American citizens. The rest of the folks my age are too busy hitin the bong and chasin tail to pay attention. Perhaps that is why vets are being labled possible right wing extremists by our govt. I now face(and have discussed with my military friends) the sick realization that one day I may have to stand against people I would have died for. In the military it is all about the person to your left and right. I am not surprised that civilians my age who have never had that level of responsibility do not see or want to see what is going on. If most 30 and unders truly grasped the whole of what is going on, I am sure their views on life and their priorities would be different. Also, you are truly overlooking one thing. Everyone on here is saying Iraq and Afghanistan are training for a NWO scenario. Not. We have N Korea and a possible explosion of total war in the Mid East looming. This will effectively keep the majority of fighting aged folks busy, out of country and outta the way. No offense intended, but leaving nothing but elders, housewives, and people who lack the fortitude to stand up is a perfect plan. Send all indian worriors to a battle and then rape and pillage the village. Oldest trick in the book!

]]> By: Jeremy Tull http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1152762 Jeremy Tull Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:12:50 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1152762 A co-worker told me that in 1992 the military was training in Texas to take guns from house's and office buildings. A co-worker told me that in 1992 the military was training in Texas to take guns from house’s and office buildings.

]]> By: TS Gordon http://www.infowars.com/cap-and-trade-will-lead-to-capital-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-1150879 TS Gordon Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:40:54 +0000 http://www.infowars.com/?p=13078#comment-1150879 According to Ralph Avallone, President of the- http://greenenergycouncil.com Obama will soon (Nov. 1st?) be announcing the purported 'purpose' of the [all but finalized HR 2454] legislation which will be to make us believe it is primarily intended to impact the decisions of major industrial polluters. The key to public acceptance is illustrating first, how many new jobs will be created. This is being handled on a state-by-state basis [as each state has a different price, not a different pollution factor,] whereas they will be creating "thousands of new service jobs for compliance personnel." These include everything from 'Green Engineers, earning $200K+ in corporate positions, down to some individuals who will be able to earn an average of $30-$50Hr. as freelance service agents. Those who instigate energy-savings plans and activities will save on energy costs while earning a direct 'tax-credit'. Those who do not will be penalized with potential 'tax liens.' ..The go is this; all shall be presented to the people [read: Obma's sheepish bleeding-heart neo-liberal followers] as a short-term challenge to reduce America's excessive over consumption. Ralph implies in his class that Obama has been encouraged to establish a deadline, whereby YOU may be informed that any 'non-compliance' on your company's or household's part will equate to a new tax on excessive consumption. This all sounds rosey and wonderful from the standpoint of the Green Jobs Corps. My instinct is to suggest that EVERYONE demand that Ron Paul's views become Mainstream before it is too late to complain! This is actually an international financial shell-game, designed for rich nations to play landlord over poor ones. According to Ralph Avallone, President of the- http://greenenergycouncil.com Obama will soon (Nov. 1st?) be announcing the purported ‘purpose’ of the [all but finalized HR 2454] legislation which will be to make us believe it is primarily intended to impact the decisions of major industrial polluters. The key to public acceptance is illustrating first, how many new jobs will be created. This is being handled on a state-by-state basis [as each state has a different price, not a different pollution factor,] whereas they will be creating “thousands of new service jobs for compliance personnel.” These include everything from ‘Green Engineers, earning $200K+ in corporate positions, down to some individuals who will be able to earn an average of $30-$50Hr. as freelance service agents.

Those who instigate energy-savings plans and activities will save on energy costs while earning a direct ‘tax-credit’. Those who do not will be penalized with potential ‘tax liens.’ ..The go is this; all shall be presented to the people [read: Obma's sheepish bleeding-heart neo-liberal followers] as a short-term challenge to reduce America’s excessive over consumption. Ralph implies in his class that Obama has been encouraged to establish a deadline, whereby YOU may be informed that any ‘non-compliance’ on your company’s or household’s part will equate to a new tax on excessive consumption.

This all sounds rosey and wonderful from the standpoint of the Green Jobs Corps. My instinct is to suggest that EVERYONE demand that Ron Paul’s views become Mainstream before it is too late to complain! This is actually an international financial shell-game, designed for rich nations to play landlord over poor ones.

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