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Cele Castillo ordered to report to federal prison
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Iran/Contra whistleblower Celerino Castillo is being sent directly to jail in the aftermath of his encounter with the buzz saw of Texas justice.
Despite being represented by an attorney, Robert E. De La Garza, who has been suspended by the State Bar of Texas for misapplying clients’ funds, the federal judge in Castillo’s case, at the urging of the government prosecutor, determined that there is no evidence of Castillo’s defense being tainted by the stink of ineffective assistance of counsel.
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The fact that the same attorney’s son is facing federal gun charges, similar to those brought against Castillo, also has been deemed by the judge to be little more than an “inference” of a conflict of interest on the part Castillo’s attorney. Hence, the judge, at a hearing held Friday, July 10, 2009, in federal court in San Antonio, Texas, ruled that Castillo is not likely to succeed in the appeal of his conviction now pending before the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.
As a result, the judge — after extending in mid-February Castillo’s report-to-prison date by some four months due to the very same ethical concerns raised about his attorney — did an about face at the July 10 hearing and ordered that Castillo report to prison on July 30 — to begin serving a 37-month sentence for violating federal firearm regulations, a sentence enhanced due to the judge’s apparent belief that Castillo sold weapons in Mexico.
Castillo, a self-proclaimed gun enthusiast who frequents gun shows, concedes he did sell some legally purchased guns absent the proper federal paperwork. However, he stresses none of those weapons were sold to prohibited purchasers (i.e., convicted felons) and he vehemently denies that any of those guns were sold in Mexico — nor is there any convincing evidence to the contrary, beyond prosecutorial inference, that has been produced by the state.
Castillo, as well as other law enforcers who spoke with Narco News, contend the federal prosecutor in the case turned Castillo’s paperwork violation (selling legally purchased weapons without a firearms-dealer permit) into a federal arms-trafficking case as payback for his whistleblowing activity — for exposing the CIA and White House’s complicity in arms- and narco-trafficking as part of the Iran/Contra scandal that played out during the administration of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.
The key to the severity of the prison sentence meted out to Castillo — who is a former DEA agent and decorated Vietnam veteran with no prior criminal record — is that the prosecutor in his case argued, and the judge seemed convinced, that Castillo was likely trafficking weapons in Mexico — and by implication to members of narco-trafficking cells.
But Narco News recently obtained documents (letters now filed with the Department of Justice) that allege the judge in Castillo’s case was mislead about the trafficking charges by the prosecutor in the case — which was initiated under the reign of U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton (a “dear friend” of former president George W. Bush), who recently left the post to take a job in the private sector.
Those documents also show that after the federal judge, W. Royal Furgeson Jr., was made aware of that allegation, he chose to chastise Castillo for bringing those charges to his attention outside the proper channels. Subsequently, Furgeson then revoked Castillo’s bail at the July 10 hearing and ordered him to report to prison to serve out an extreme sentence based on the allegedly misleading — possibly perjured — statements advanced by the federal prosecutor, Mark T. Roomberg.
The Allegations
On Oct. 22, 2008, Judge Furgeson sentenced Castillo to 37 months in prison after Castillo accepted his second plea deal with the prosecutor, Roomberg. The first set of charges against Castillo had to be dismissed because the government determined after the fact that they had applied the law improperly.
Castillo says he agreed to plead out a second time (to dealing firearms without a license) under the threat of multiple additional counts being brought against him by the government if he did not sign on the dotted line, and because his attorney, De La Garza, assured him that under the new plea deal he would retain his DEA and other benefits and he would receive a light sentence as a first-time offender — likely probation.
However, at the sentencing hearing on Oct. 22, 2008, after that second plea deal was signed, the prosecutor Roomberg came at Castillo with teeth bared, arguing that not only did Castillo sell firearms without a license, but that he likely was engaged in illegal arms trafficking — indicating to the judge that Castillo had been less than cooperative in disclosing to whom he had sold the weapons.
In fact, Castillo says the government had no evidence that he had sold guns to anyone, other than his own admission, and he stresses that his lawyer, De La Garza, did provide Roomberg with the full name of the individual who purchased the guns.
Castillo lays all of this out in a letter sent to Judge Furgeson (dated May 1, 2009, and recently obtained by Narco News). That same letter, including evidence to back up the allegations, Castillo says, also has been delivered to the Department of Justice’s Office of Inspector General and to the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division. In addition, Castillo says he wrote a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder making him aware of the allegations of prosecutorial misconduct in his case as well.
From Castillo’s letter to the judge:
ROOMBERG made a federal case that I had not documented any names of the people [to whom] I had sold guns. I was given 4 point [sentencing enhancement] for trafficking because ROOMBERG had once again lied.
… My attorney once again assured me that there was no reason why Your Honor [Furgeson] would not place me on probation, because I had no previous criminal record plus my health issues [a chronic heart condition and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder] would be brought under consideration. He stated that in the worst scenario, I would get one year, (home confinement)….
… ROOMBERG also knew exactly whom the guns went to because the [federal] agents had followed me when I delivered the shotguns. Two agents, from two different agencies [ATF and ICE] have written reports [REPORT OF INVESTIGATION] to that effect with the full name and telephone numbers of the individual who took custody of the guns. Now may there be no mistake that the individual who took custody of the guns did in no way shape or form break the law by taking custody of the guns. He was not a prohibited person and the government knew this to be a fact.
… I know that if Your Honor had heard the truth; I would have probably fallen into the probation level of the federal guidelines. Now I can prove that ROOMBERG lied to Your Honor, with DE LA GARZA’S handwritten notes and the two agents’ reports.
Castillo explains that in De La Garza’s notes from a meeting he had with Roomberg on June 26, 2008, is the name of the individual who purchased the weapons. Castillo says De La Garza told him that Roomberg was provided with that individual’s full name and address at that meeting, as the attorney’s notes reflect, and that Roomberg that day ran the individual’s address through the Internet to generate a map of that address.
In addition, Castillo claims the federal agents in his case seized his cell phone, and that the individual’s contact information was in the contact list on that phone, as well as a record of calls made to the individual. He contends Roomberg also would have had access to that information.
In his letter to Judge Furgeson, Castillo includes excerpts from Roomberg’s argument before the judge at the Oct. 22, 2008, sentencing hearing, which, he claims, proves that Roomberg misled the judge.
From the Oct. 22 hearing transcript, according to Castillo’s letter to Judge Furgeson:
Roomberg:
The defendant — and normally I don’t discuss this in open court – but the defendant raised the issue that he spoke with us and told us the person who he bought and sold most of these guns to. The defendant gave us a nickname and a general area, nothing that we can do anything with.
… We would love to know who these people were; we would love to have had Mr. Castillo tell us more than just a nickname and a general area where this person lived. He didn’t. And if he [is] dealing all these firearms with this person and can’t give us more than a nickname, then I don’t know how he’s identified that person.
… This person who has dealt the majority – what he just said in court, the majority of these guns he only knows by a nickname and a general area where they live and… so it’s our position that he had reason to believe these were going to be – the transfers were unlawful or that who they were going to would … dispose of firearms unlawfully… Again, we’re talking about the defendant who’s dealing these guns out of McAllen right there on the border. The types of guns are the FN 5.7 and the P 90, which are the assault rifles.
Castillo, in the letter to Judge Furgeson, makes the following allegation concerning Roomberg’s representations [above] to the judge at the Oct. 22 sentencing hearing:
ROOMBERG addressed to the court that the government had no idea who the guns went to and that they only had a nickname to go by. ROOMBERG intentionally, knowingly, and recklessly lied to the court. ROOMBERG lied about the P90 rifle. This weapon is nowhere to be found in my case. He just plain made up this allegation.
As a result of Roomberg’s allegedly misleading statements to Judge Furgeson, Castillo argues, the judge was led to believe that some of the guns at issue were, in fact, sold to narco-traffickers in Mexico, resulting in the judge imposing a much more severe sentence — which, besides the 37 months jail term, also resulted in Castillo losing his DEA and other benefits, despite Roomberg and De La Garza’s promises to Castillo to the contrary.
De La Garza told Narco News in a recent phone interview that if he were called to testify in a hearing about Roomberg’s actions, he would testify, that, in his opinion, “Roomberg misrepresented the facts at the sentencing and the judge was mislead” as a result.
And Castillo, in his letter to Judge Furgeson [as well as those delivered to DOJ], makes clear that he believes Roomberg’s actions in his case do merit an investigation:
Sir, there are several serious issues that needs to be address because I was told that they would not be address in my appeal process. My public defender [Judy F. Madewell] has decided to appeal my case on the grounds of “ineffective representation.”
… One of the most significant concerns is Assistant United States Attorney Mark ROOMBERG’S prosecutorial misconduct.
… In the last hearing, you commented that it was despicable for someone to take guns into Mexico, which I certainly agree and it was well taken. However, what I find most despicable, in my own opinion, is that ROOMBERG, an officer of the court, and who took an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States, made a mockery of your court.
On April 10, 2009, my official complaint against the government was hand carried by two veteran’s organization, Americas Last Patrol and a member of American G-I Forum, to the Office of Inspector General and the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice. I am requesting for an inquiry of how my case was handle by the prosecution. However, I am still fearful that the old guard is still present and will protect ROOMBERG.
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Judge Furgeson replied to Castillo’s letter outlining the allegations against Roomberg in a letter dated May 20, 2009, which states simply:
You have an appointed lawyer to represent you. You must communicate to me through her. It is not proper to write directly to me.
Castillo’s attorney, Judy Madewell, and Roomberg were cced a copy of Judge Furgeson’s reply to Castillo.
Castillo points out that the only reason he wrote directly to the judge in his case is because his attorney, Madewell, declined to bring up the issue of prosecutorial misconduct in his appeal or in proceedings before Judge Furgeson.
Madewell declined to comment for this story.
Process over truth
At a hearing held before Judge Furgeson on Feb. 19, 2009, Roomberg again alleged that Castillo sold guns “to people that he didn’t know and couldn’t even really identify” and also alleged that two of the guns sold by Castillo “have now been found in Mexico.” Roomberg provided no serial numbers for those weapons and alleged in his brief for the court that one of those weapons was a PS 90 assault rifle.
Madewell, in her rebuttal at that hearing, pointed out to the court that in “the government’s response [brief] they mention two guns, one of which was an FN PS 90 assault rifle, but if you look in [Castillo’s] plea agreement or the indictment, there’s no such weapon indicated [included].”
Castillo says the PS 90 is an earlier version of the FS 2000 rifle, which is referenced in the indictment. However, he claims if that is the weapon Roomberg claims was found in Mexico, then he can prove the prosecutor again mislead the court.
“That rifle is still in the United States, and if there is an official inquiry into this matter, that weapon will be produced,” Castillo says.
And again, at the recent hearing on July 10, in which Castillo’s bail was revoked and the judge ordered him to report to prison on July 30, Roomberg again made statements that seem intended to convince the judge that Castillo had sold guns to narco-traffickers in Mexico.
“It is bad for the United States for the defendant [Castillo] to remain out n bond when he is guilty … and he sold guns that are illegal and dangerous … and used to shoot people with body armor, police, down there [in Mexico] who are fighting the war on drugs,” Roomberg stated at the July 10 hearing.
But in the courtroom that day, the issue of prosecutorial misconduct was not on the table. The judge was considering only whether Castillo should remain free on bond based on what Castillo’s attorney, Madewell, had raised as an issue in her brief now pending before the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, and that was the issue of the alleged misconduct by Castillo’s attorney, De La Garza.
The judge conceded that De La Garza had never informed the court of the fact that, while representing Castillo, he was facing disciplinary action from the Texas State Bar for allegedly misappropriating clients’ funds — and that his law license was to be suspended effective Nov. 1, 2008. The judge also conceded that an “inference” of a conflict of interest exists due to the fact that De La Garza’s son, Andrew, was facing federal firearms charges at the same time the attorney was representing Castillo — and that at least one of the agents involved in Castillo’s case also was active in the son’s case (though Castillo claims it was, in fact, two agents).
However, in the end, Judge Furgeson determined that there simply was not enough evidence in the existing court record to show that there was an “actual” conflict of interest that would lead the appeals court to find that De La Garza provided ineffective assistance of counsel.
“I believe it is not likely that [Castillo’s] appeal [before the Fifth Circuit] will result in a reversal or new trial based on the record as it exists,” Furgeson said at the July 10 hearing. “… Ms. Madewell has made a heroic effort, but she is hamstrung because of the record [in the case]. Therefore, I’m going to revoke the bond, and I’m going to set the report date [to prison for Castillo] for July 30. There will be no further bond for the appeal.”
And so it ends for Castillo. He must now report to the federal penitentiary at the end of the month, and fight on with his appeal behind bars — absent his benefits and under the threat of harm that confronts all former law enforcement agents behind prison walls.
But the allegations of prosecutorial misconduct in his case are surely not resolved.
If, as Castillo claims, De La Garza did provide Roomberg with the full name and address of the individual who purchased the weapons from Castillo, and that individual is a U.S. citizen who was not prohibited from making those purchases, as Castillo contends, then it appears Roomberg likely did mislead the court.
On the other hand, if Roomberg argues that De La Garza failed to provide that name (which appears in his attorney notes), then it would seem that Roomberg is establishing a fact that would lend credence to the claim now on appeal before the Fifth Circuit — that De La Garza did, in fact, provide Castillo with ineffective assistance of council. (Roomberg clearly convinced the judge to dole out a stiff sentence to Castillo based on the contention that he did not cooperate with the prosecution, that he did not provide the full name of the purchaser, and that he likely did traffic weapons in Mexico).
It seems to be a Catch 22 for the prosecution, but in the U.S. justice system, at least in the Western District of Texas, the truth seems to matter less than protecting the process.
And in this case, to date, Castillo appears to be little more than another cog on the conveyor belt of that tortured process, destined for the buzz saw — another stat in the prosecution’s hat regardless of the facts.
Now, that’s change we can believe in.
Stay tuned ….
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July 12th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
life is short death is sure, sin the cause CHRIST THE CURE
showmebby Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Agreed
Guest001 Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Castillo is featured in the film “American Drug War: the last white hope”
Check out free on google video.
Dogfood Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
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reconmarine Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Castillo is bad because he ratted us out. We just want to sell drugs and enslave “America” in peace and just be left alone. NWO(own) rulz.
Yeah Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 5:08 am
Joe, the Alex Jones Republican-
“…Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.
All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.
Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)
He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, “We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”..”
Captain Trips Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 6:13 am
Why are you even posting on this comment board? It’s blatantly apparent that you just like starting trouble. There is no such thing as a liberal just as there is no such thing as a republican. Both are mental creations used to bring on synthesis. There is no left and there is no right, only Legion. And go check your facts.
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Dear Yeah,
Yeah starts his day drinking flouridated water from his municipal water source all approved by bi-partisan politicians who “don’t want cavities in your stomach”. He pops a couple of pills that he saw advertised on TV that help “shaky legs”, and “stop the urge to smoke”. Yeah loves the fact that he can have tax payers pay 90% of the cost thanks to government run health care. Yeah also knows the drugs are safe because politicians care, and would never allow dangerous drugs to be sold in America. Yeah doesn’t bother to read the drug insert that says in fancy language that he will likely lose his genital functions and may have the pleasure centers of his brain chemically labotimised.
Yeah eats his breakfast of eggs and bacon. The eggs come from chickens that are injected with growth hormone and live in their own filth in small cages. The bacon he eats was never a popular food item until propaganda genius Edward Burnaise introduced it 100 years ago. Yeah chops up a tomato that was genetically engineered with a cock roach gene to make it last on the shelf longer. Yeah doesn’t mind any of that he just pumps his veins full of chloresterol and frankin-food because he trusts the government to make food safe.
Yeah gets in the shower and enjoys the clorinated water that dries out his skin. Then he applies the soap and shampoo that is made from “detergent” otherwise known as poisonous industrial waste. Yeah is happy to read all the big words on the ingredients list that make him proud of his government for keeping the shampoo makers honest.
Yeah gets dressed and goes outside to take a deep breath of Chem-spray. He watches the pretty planes as they make checker board patterns in the sky. Along with the spray he breaths in exhaust fumes not caring that alternative energy for cars has been suppressed for decades. His liberal neighbor friend comes over to say good morning and farts while Yeahs mouth is open. Great day to be breathing for Yeah.
Yeah goes to work by getting on the rail system that was forced upon the taxpayers to “cut carbon emissions”. Yeah doesn’t care that the rail system is inefficient and must use tax dollars to stay in existence. It’s for the greater good. So people that live outside the city get to pay for Yeah to get to work.
Yeah gets to work at his job that pays well thanks to the government mandated minimum wage. He makes a whole $7.50 an hour and gets all the “Bennies” thanks to his Union that charges $30.00 a pay check to everyone even if they don’t want a Union. It’s the same Union that used to represent a company that went to another country because the Union made it impossible for the company to make profits. But Yeah doesn’t care he loves his life.
It’s time for Yeah to go to the bank. He takes his fiat money that is issued as debt on the public and has cool satanic symbols printed on the back. Yeah loves that if the bank goes bust his money is insured so they will just print up more out of thin air to make Yeahs’ loot safe. Yeah doesn’t care that hyper inflation will result he just trusts everything.
Yeah pays his mortgage to a federal lender that went bankrupt because of criminal hedging and bad loans. That is OK because that federal lender was “too big to fail”, so the Government bailed them out with tax dollars. He pays his federal student loan put up by tax payers. Yeah loves living off the backs of others. What a great thing that he was educated and makes minimum wage.
Yeah gets off work and goes to his farmer dads house. His farmer dad sits in his overalls and looks out the window at a field of weeds. Monsanto came and tilled under his crops because the wind blew some Monsanto pollen onto his field and now he is being sued by them for illegally growing the GM crops patented by Monsanto. He also lost his government subsidy when they found out he was growing crops on a field that he was paid to leave dirt. Daddy has a shotgun next to his lazy-boy and will “kill himself” before he goes to prison. But at least he has a TV and electricity thanks to the government. Private companies would have left the poor bugger in the dark. Only government cares enough to provide TV to farmers. If daddy wins the court battle he plans to retire… but wait, he was independent, he didn’t contribute to SS, guess he will have to sell the farm.
Yeah goes home in his prius with a rainbow sticker. He turns on the radio and on comes Alex Jones. Yeah gets a feeling of disgust. He says out loud, “this guy should be put in jail, he is un-american, how can he be allowed to criticize government, there should be a law!”. Yeah goes home and calls his liberal rep and demands that they pass hate speech and fairness doctrine legislation to rid the air waves of the likes of ALEX JONES “we don’t need these thankless jerks upsetting the apple cart”… do we Yeah?
Darth Chaos Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
I thought I recognized him. I have American Drug War on DVD.
Jay Straw Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Marc Emery (”Prince of Pot”) has a really great and long interview with Cele, I’m very happy to see Mr. Castillo being reported on, though, of course his current circumstance is an atrocity, and I’ve recently been reading about the conduct of Texas Bar et al…really terrible and sick shit. Keep at it Cele, you’re beautiful man, fuck these bastards!!!
JCIS Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 12:06 am
The gov interceptors keep erasing my comments with crucial links to why Celerino is being unfairly targeted by the feds. So, to find those links, google videos: Cocaine, Contras, DEA and Marc Emery and Cocaine, Contras, DEA and Marc Emery (part2) – very riveting interview with Cele.
NM Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
The one Mexican they put in jail?? A legal, upright whistleblower thats why. Retroactive ‘justice’ and preemptive silencing looks as ugly as ever.
Yeah Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 3:02 am
The song ‘Eulogy’ by the band Tool w/ lyrics….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1YFLodQu1U
He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say.
We’ll miss him.
We’ll miss him.
He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say.
We’ll miss him.
We’re gonna miss him
We’re gonna miss him
So long.
We wish you well.
You told us how you weren’t afraid to die.
Well then, so long.
Don’t cry.
Or feel too down.
Not all martyrs see divinity.
But at least you tried.
Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud.
We’ll miss him.
We’ll miss him.
Ranting and pointing his finger
At everything but his heart.
We’ll miss him.
We’ll miss him.
We’re gonna miss him.
We’re gonna miss him.
No way to recall
What it was that you had said to me,
Like I care at all.
But you were so loud.
You sure could yell.
You took a stand on every little thing
And so loud.
“I’m too smart when you’re invisible by the bone and the symbol on you. So he bashes his skull through the window while over looking the sea. Twilight amber ego. We were amused by this”
Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade cuz I’m so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, with
Someone who would die for me.
Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don’t you fuckin lie.
Don’t you step out of line.
Don’t you step out of line.
Don’t you step out of line.
Don’t you fuckin lie.
You’ve claimed all this time that you would die for me.
Why then are you so surprised when you hear your own
Eulogy?
He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say.
He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say.
Come down.
Get off your fuckin cross.
We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.
To ascend you must die.
You must be crucified
For our sins and our lies.
Goodbye!!!
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Thanks for posting Maynards lyrical autobiography. Now go give oral pleasure to a democrate union boss.
al Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:55 am
“Yeah” – Buddy, I would stomp your ass if I ever saw you on the street. Now get the fuck out of here with your liberal homosexual bullshit.
Slave of Allah Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Why is Christ the cure? even Jesus peace be upon him, said that there is no god but God, and his message was completely monotheism, not self-worship
Follow the message of all the prophets – Islam
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Yes , praise God ( Vishnu ) !!!
NM Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Anybody but Lucifer and his many variations- masonic, talmudic etc is fine by me.
Benhur Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Have you not read the Bible?
Jesus never said “there is no god but God” when a rich man came to Him and said “Good Teacher” Jesus replied “Who do you call Good? is only God good?” Jesus asked this in a manner that would confirm His Diety. Jesus DID say “I and the Father are One” “If you have seen me you have seen the Father”
The Father said “this is my Son in Him I am well pleased” “This is my Son, listen to Him.”
Jesus IS God.
FreedomLover Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
100% correct. But it is still the choice of every single person whether or not to accept Him. Don’t be discouraged when people scoff and reject. That is the way of most of the world. Just keep on keeping on.
Eric_the_Red Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I had always been taught that there is the creator of all the universe (i.e. God) and that Jesus was the “Word of God”. Meaning when Moses was taking instruction from the burning bush, he was speaking with the word of God, (i.e. Jesus). 2 parts of the same deity. The creator and his voice. Anyways, not to detract from the point of the article. Cele was railroaded, I think we can all agree on that, but the question is; “What will you do about it?”
F*ck the system Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 3:16 am
oh dear… how can jesus be god?
thats the problem with people re-telling stories from the past, gets kinda all messed up along the way doesnt it.
here was me thinking god was god and jesus was the son of god, contradiciton perhaps???
you would be better following your own religion of freedom instead of eing manipulated by stories from the past.
ScrewyL Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:01 am
F*ck the system:
The same ambiguity exists for Horus.
(I already regret contributing to the theological arguement)
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 8:58 am
You’re dreaming !!! Jesus was the son of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar !!! He was a
great soul though , transcended matter , had aquired mystic powers due to yogic
prowess , was trying to help his fellow man , and was a lacto-vegetarian , and a great
Guru !!!
P.S. And kicked good ass on the NWO of the time !!!
warmbeer Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Then why did He allow the disciples to worship Him after He calmed the sea?
RWCME Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
RWCME
I really don’t get you thumpers. Why. aaah you bible thumpn morons are nothing but a bunch of morons. Move to Nevada, and stay there.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Its something to think about but don’t forget that theres so much more to think about A smart man can waste there own time by talking to fools don’t forget. I’m not saying Castillo was a hero but he is a good man with a family and an American.
JCIS Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Hey Slave of Allah! You’re right – Isaiah 43:11 reads: “I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.”
Captain Trips Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Proving that Jesus Christ was God in the Flesh and is God.
odmccrack Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:25 am
just because “someone”(he probably never existed) said it doesnt make it true. Your just buying into another scam. Religion keeps you dumb, deppressed, and demoralized.
MAD DOG Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 5:11 am
THERE ARE NO GODS.
DEAL WITH IT, THIS IS ALL THERE IS.
Benhur Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 7:38 am
This…what? Everything you see? what if God shows up and reveals Himself to you? What than? Will it be too late? He is coming. just as He left. with Power and Glory
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Your wasting time arguing about God Its all about what you believe you cant convince anyone otherwise
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:10 am
There are morre important issues you always want to wase time arguing about Jesus when peoiple will always believe what they were taught maybe it is the original conspiracy though.
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:34 am
that’s not true NUTUN there is PROOF OF GOD, his name is JESUS CHRIST, you need the love of the bible in your life
quaintvilliageamerica Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I understand what you are saying Slave of Allah.
Not all Christians believe in a trinity, or that Jesus is God, though I did believe that until recently As NeverUnderestimateTheUN put it ” people always believe what they were taught” .
But not people on this site , right ? We have learned to challenge our preconceived ideas, because the truth will win out after hard examination, because it is the truth. Since we are truthseekers, we will find it.
If Jesus is God , then maybe so is Moses ?
http://www.focusonthekingdom.o.....ppians.htm
Yeah Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Check out the documentary known as The God Who Wasn’t There.
http://www.thegodmovie.com/
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:11 am
You are pathetic. I bet you liked Zeitgeist. I bet you like anything that stands against freedom and morals. I bet you love being a slave.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Im not going to argue with you because a wise man arguing with a fool can still look like a fool because people from a distance can’t tell who’s who.
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:17 am
did you even see that movie? if you did you’d know that God is against slavery and CREATED MORALS
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I replied here and it was taken down. Nothing I said was any worse than what you see above. Thanks moderator jerks.
al Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:57 am
“Yeah” – KISS MY WHITE ASS, YOU FUCKING MORON!!!
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Don’t make this racial there are more important issues to talk about while your are wasting your time I want to see the research on why this man is imprisoned. You are the real slave G.W. Notice what your initials are.
Yeah Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:58 am
Christians attack hate bills because they love hate. They demand the right to hate, control you and spit in your face.
Another voice Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 7:20 am
“Yeah”–a willingly ignorant stooge.
Hate bills are nothing more than nazi tactics to demonize and rid the land of political opponents. Sounds like it is ok for you to HATE christians and deny them their right to “THINK”. In your world to “think” is HATE. Hypocrit.
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:08 am
You are beyond stupid. i say that with love.
al Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:59 am
“Yeah” – Who came to these comments looking for a fight? YOU! WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT! FUCK YOU and FUCK OBAMA THE CONSTITUTIONALLY ILLEGAL QUEER CRACK HEAD!!!
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:31 am
you obviously don’t know anything about the bible or jesus please enroll in my church for more information about the love of our savior
Paul (MN) Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Giving you the right to do the same by default.
godbluff Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I loved the sunday show this week on PP tv. It was so great to not hear those asshole news readers during the breaks on alex’s show.
edgar Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
yes it is hard to listen to 6 minutes of main stream news
jimshores Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
That news cast is gone? GRRRRRREAT. Andy Willowbee is irritating audio, the little con creep
Anihilus Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1wmPQA0QA
thesealhasbeenopened Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 2:10 am
This is ridiculous.. I feel it’s time to start rebelling disobedience to authority is called for NOW! The second amendment overrides these BS federal regulations !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSi_y83F0co
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:42 am
I agree with you but i don’t think everything’s going to change because of YouTuibe. Don’t forget who owns YouTube!
F*ck the system Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 3:10 am
religion is the tool of sin, so do yourself a favour and put it in the bin!
back on topic…. feel sorry for him … hope he makes it out of jail alive.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:41 am
A wise man once told me that rhyming was the tool of both the Devil and the Lord. In other words it can be the truth .like certain parts of the Bible (before King JAMES tampered with it) Or a lie like some of these “rappers” out here. It’s a powerful tool but it can also be a deadly weapon. I tend to avoid poetry and mnemonics because of that.
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:55 am
This is the one true thing you’ve said, it’s true that there is some “music” that can kill peopel. on art Bell there was a person who discussed the evil beats that are played in some rock and roll music int he 90s and now it’s only gotten worser there are some beats from songs that were created by evil forces
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Rap is crap! 50 Cents got shot nine times and now my son thinks living this thug life is what 2Pac wants him to live. I’m sick and tired of this music brainwashing our kids with it’
s rhymes and mnemonics.
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Furthermore, poetry has driven all the latin based languages into existence. If you think mumbling around with 200 word vocabularies is good for society then keep bashing poetry.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 8:38 am
I think a limited vocabulary can be a lot better than some fancy wordings that you have to go to their schools and be indoctrinated to learn. I believe in using a total of no more than 300 words (you can pick and choose to use them however you want, I don’t put a word limit on sentences, it’s just 300 words top choose from) That way everyone can understand what is meant without any need for education.
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
The moderators suck, I see F bombs all over the place. I get attacked and then my reply gets deleted. I wrote a detailed account of the KJB and it was deleted but they leave all these christian bashers. What the hell is wrong with you moderators. Probably the same jerks that blocked me from the infowars forum when I did NOTHING to violate their rules. I guess I should just bash Christians with F-bombs so I will be in good with these jerk moderators. Go ahead jerks take this one down too. You know how you selectively enforce the rules. You would make good cops for the NWO. Hypocrite basterds.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Global Warring, maybe you were censored maybe you weren’t I don’t think you know much about the AKJVB (The Authorized King James Version Bible) at all. For instance did you know that King James conmpletely changed some of the texts of the Bible?
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Twice I have posted details about the KJV of the bible. Twice my post has been deleted. I am asking the moderator to email me why he insists on deleting my posts. You have my email, now explain yourself. Tell me what it is about my post on the KJV is so offensive. Tell me why you allow all this dis-info to be posted yet you take down my post of detailed information that is known by historians of Elizabethan and Stuart family England. What is so dangerous about me letting people know the history that led to the KJV. If you can’t explain yourself then I will continue to regard you as an incompetent ass.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 8:35 am
I’ve also had some posts censored, like one I did about Big Brother but I know that these moderators are on our side, and want to make sure that the right truth is out there. There doing there best and we should respect their opinion.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 8:52 am
That said, I would like to hear your account of the AKJVB. Please e-mail me to talk more about the changes in all the Bibles. I have my own accounts I’d like to compare with you, and I’m not afraid of an argument as you can see.
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
OK you win Mr. Hypocrite moderator. Hope your proud of the job you are doing. You are a disgrace to this website. You love your petty power. You know there was nothing wrong with my post. You suck!
mercyflush Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Good work yet again, “voice”!! You guys successfully derailed this thread into a religious discussion. Now I get to learn that I just think I believe in god but dont really. Get to hear about someone named jesus— never heard of that one– must be good news! Maybe I can learn more and be saved. Then we can hear from some all-knowing atheist who magically knows what does and does not exist. He’ll tell you there are no flying cows and cite Penn and Teller as proof. Next thing ya know we’re off-topic.
Voice, I’ve seen you do this many times here; excellent technique.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Last time I checked Voice still has the right to free speech.
July 12th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
stay tuned indeed!
July 12th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
fed=nazi’s
Justin Thought Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Another example of our fine Criminal Justice System at work. “Who wins in court?” “Just-us!”
July 12th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
he should have know they would be after him dealing guns was a lamo move.. i am not saying he is guilty but he should have been thinking they would use anything to get pay back .. guns can be used as a weapon without even having one in your hands … they built a case because he did not cover his back .. he should have left America long ago did he really think they would let him live out his life without pay back .. really what a dolt……….
Jay Straw Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
You’re right, they ‘built a case because he did not cover his back’
The ponchos (for back covering) are unConstitutional. Cele Castillo did what ALL of us should be doing: following the Constitution even if it means breaking unConstitutional ‘laws’. Of course, they’re not laws since they’re unConstitutional, but they are enforced as you say. He’s not a dolt, he’s a dude. But point taken
July 12th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Bill Conroy, man dude can i ask for detail in the first sentance. like this : this man did xyz, he is in this situation xyz. this is his situation today xyz, this is what could be his situation tomarrow xyz.
xyz are all the possable situation that can happen, fill in the blank.
what happened? to who? why? when? where? how? now that you are writting for aj is it time to learn how too write?
silly rabbit tricks are for kids!
WordNaziRepellent Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
@ scienceofficer:
Too lazy to read the story, or just to used to being spoon fed sap pyramid-style by the mainstream media?
I suspect it’s both.
zman Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Conroy doesn’t write for Alex Jones or any of his websites; they merely linked to a story on The Narcosphere. Not very hard to figure out. Perhaps it would be a good idea to go there and read on of the dozens of stories Bill Conroy has written about Castillo to get a little more information about what’s going on.
July 12th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
THE NWO IS GOING TO FALL FLAT ON ITS FACE…….
BELIEVING IS SEEING NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND SO ACT ACCORDINGLY, BELIEVE IN LOVE.
THEY CAN HAVE ALL THE HIGH-TECH WEAPON THEY WANT WE GONNA KICK THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE FUCKERS……2012 IS NOW NOT IN 3 YEARS TIME.
OUR LUNAR CALENDAR IS OFF …….
July 12th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Some would say what goes around comes around in this case……
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
That’s not very nice !!! This man is making up for his mistake of being suckered into the
propaganda machine ( at probably a young age !!! )
P.S. Besides , there is ( or , rather , should be ) such a thing as a bonafide agency checking
on drug traffic ( especially on the hard , non natural drugs !!! ) . But of course , we all know
what’s really happening , thanks to whistle blowers like Cele Castillo !!!
Ant S Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
I may judge to harshly as I don’t know the whole story from start to finish. I do not know why he would think the system would treat him any differently as they are out to get us all. Seems to me that just based on this article he was expecting some kind of reduced sentence for his good DEA record. Sorry he seems to me to have been part of the war on the American people. But I don’t know the whole story so I bow to those with more knowledge on the issue and refrain from further comment.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 8:19 am
He is the loyal type , hoodwinked by a corrupt system !!! The blame lays elsewhere !!!
P.S. Good P.S.S. material !!!
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Ant, I don’t think its right to judge a man strictly by his past actions if he’s doing good things in the present. From the same court case look at some of the good things Oliver North did later in life. Sometimes it just takes longer for some people to do the right thing but they can be some of the real heroes when they do.
July 12th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
He should have not bought into the court system and took his free man position.
July 12th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Being a gun owner I will say this, THE 2ND AMMENDMENT, can anyone tell me where it says we have to write down serial #’s, notify the feds, do a background check, for a hunting rifle and a couple of shotguns or for ANY weapon for that matter. For all of you who need a refresher course on the 2nd Ammendment:
A well regulated malitia(citizen soldiers), being necessary to the security of a free state(not the federal government), the right of the people to keep and bear arms( the people owning guns), shall not be infringed( so that we can protect ourselves from tyranny i.e. federal government)
Now a federal judge, federal prosecutors, federal agents and a court appointed federal defense attorney. HMMMMMMM this poor guy is getting the shaft right up his federal ass.
This is the funny part, cause you got to read between the lines on this one, this guy is a retired federal agent who is turned coat. So all you little piggies out there in Alex Jones land should realize that if you think something is wrong or not ethical and you turn on your precious federal government. You too will get the shaft in your federal asses.
OutThere Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Most of the so called patriots dont know their asses from the faces. They will follow their federalized system that their big daddy picked out for them, because they dont want the responsibility of being self sufficient.
They will bitch and moan, but only a little, because it hasnt effected them personally yet.
The American public has become arrogant in their ignorance. This is doubly so in the patriot movement. You people are overconfident. You think you know the enemy, but you really dont. This is evidenced by your inaction. If you knew what was really going on and what is going to happen, you would spend all of your free time preparing. But instead, you still look for others to fix your problems. You look to others for guidance, direction. As long as these ‘figures’ are in front of you telling you that things are going to work out, we are going to win, etc, blah blah, you will retract back within your comfort zone, never to lift a finger in the process.
And the infighting. Many of you are trolls, distractors, and traitors, and you dont even realize it, yet.
But you will, and will lament on that dark day that comes like a thief.
July 12th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Just another Patriot to rescue when the meat gets metted out!
Sagitarrius Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Ahhh 13 how are you doing. I got that bow and arrow for you.
July 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
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July 12th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
>>> the NRA = NWO <<<<<
support Gun Owners of America
July 12th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
If he sold the weapons in TX, this is a case to watch closely. Person to person/private firearms sales are legal in TX. This will become a case for the Fed to attempt to shut down these sales and gun shows in TX. Read between the lines folks. If he sold the weapons to a private party, who is legally capable of purchasing a firearm in TX, he committed no crime.
Zinbanski Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Man you beat me to it. I was about to say that. And what is really buggy is the Judge has to know that too.
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I hope people see the tyranny of gun shows and the tyranny of violence. Where would we be without guns? We need to find a way to sell guns outside of the buyer/seller paradigm set up by the VIOLENT feds. I say no to violence, yes to an open market for guns
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Good point. I’m not saying that Castillo was a hero, but he does seem toi be a patriot based on all the research I have done on the internet. What do laws mean if they can be turned around to use even if they’re not broken. That’s how i know the system is corrupt and broken and some would say unfixable. Biggy if what you say is right than Castillo IS a hero because he sold his gun outside of the gun shows. It’s something to think about. Some people say he can’t be a hero because he was in the Iran Contra case but i don’t think you can always judge a Tiger by his old stripes when he can shed his skin. I’m not saying he’s always perfect but he might be a hero now if you think about it and do your own research. Don’t believe everything you read and SEE and THINK and HEAR for yourself!
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I think you’re talking about a snake, BTW
birgit Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
what if you don’t sell , but swap for eggs????? a lifetime’s worth , but no fiat fed notes involved.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Judges don’t know everything.
Leena Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Another problem is, the supposed selling of weapons in Mexico is all speculation. There is no evidence. Therefore, it should be shot out of court. This should be considered a mistrial and he should be able to seek new counsel and get a new judge on the case.
Zinbanski Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Exactly correct. This is the way the judicial system is suppose to work. There is no upholding in his case. And if he gets a next time he needs to request trial by Jury. Jury nullification can come quite in handy for his case. Especially considering with his case they are using the gun laws.
Jay Straw Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Great point, hope people see that one
FUBAR REPUBLIC Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Sure the damned judge knows it.
There’s no “law” in this country anymore.
They pick and choose which peon they want to jail next,
the one who will do them the most good, and just LIE
and make it up as they go along like the filthy dogs they are.
PEOPLE, WHEN IS THIS SHIT GONNA BE DECLARED “ENOUGH”?
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Castillo is no peon though, they put him in prison to make the point that they can do whatever they want. We’re all round pegs in a square hole to them.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:49 am
I agree with some of your points but I think some of them are assumptions. READ and SEE and HEAR for yourself!
WarmWind Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
The odd thing is that the real law does not count when you sign a plea agreement (Contract). He was pressured into the plea agreement and that is where his trouble really started, they probably could never of convicted him of a crime.
If this transaction was completed in TX it is not clear where or how the Federal jurisdiction crept in.
No person can know all of the laws and yet by not knowing you get trashed by the system.
The officials, Federal, State, County, City…. are all using creative “criminal charges” to take us out one at a time. You may see how they are attacking me at http://RuralJustice.com
I have a great deal of empathy for Mr. Castillo!
Last Door Down The Hall Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Bingo. This will leader to wider sweeping gun legislation if the feds succeed.
Heres a portion of the interview he had with a host, Dean Becker. Explains the fed charge. Vendor at a gun show without a license. Selling guns. Don’t know Texas law on this, maybe one you guys do. Good interview, explains the Iran-Contra deal and these charges.
http://www.drugtruth.net/cms/?q=node/2131
Dean Becker: Exactly. Now, Cele, I want to address this charge against you, for gun sales, and I want to preface this with, There are thousands of people across America who love these gun shows who trade, for historical purposes or whatever, but that are not gun dealers, that are not complicit in, I guess, the importation or exportation of these guns to Mexico and who do it as, a hobby.
As I understand it Cele, you’re retired now. Your health was not doing so good but, you found that by attending these gun shows, you found people that you could talk to that shared common interest and… So, you traded a few guns. Tell us what happened?
Cele Castillo: Basically Dean, what happened was I started attending the gun shows about three years ago and basically what I was doing, I was selling my book. Powder Burns: Cocaine, Contra’s & the Drug War. After awhile I started collecting, what was know as, Vietnam vintage, I don’t… that people were selling at the gun shows.
So I started collecting them and then someone suggested that I could sell a couple used guns here and there, without a problem. Basically what we have is that half of the gun shows venders don’t have license to sell guns. So what I was doing was basically what half of the gun show was doing. They were selling guns. You buy guns, whether they’re new or old, you collect them and then resell them.
But, when I got arrested I got charged, when in fact under Polk vs. US, I wasn’t a prohibited workman, so it took the government seven months to figure out that they had charged me with the wrong counts and at the end of the day, when they dismissed my case, I was kind of forced to plead to two new counts and one was selling guns without a license.
Well, why am I being targeted, a select prosecution when in fact other people at the gun shows are doing the exact same thing I did and yet they are not being targeted or so forth and I strongly believe that I was targeted because of my activism against the government and that’s basically what it is and that is what I got charged with.
I was looking at a five year count on each one. One was selling the guns without a license and aiding and abetting. One of the other reasons was because at the time, the prosecutor addressed the courts and told them that I would not loose my benefits if I was to plead out to these two counts and well, of course, that was not a true statement.
July 12th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
He must have really pissed off some power players cause this sure sounds like a rail roading to me. Anymore the “justice system” is merely a way for the “elitists” to eliminate informants, turn coats, and whistle blowers with the air of authenticity to their criminal acts of murder in order “get gain”. These judges, prosecutors and the whole lot are bought and paid for and its sounds like Cele pissed off someone who owned some legal eagles in the area. One more thing to push the people into a corner and bring about that inevitable explosion. Just like Ramos and Compeon (spelling?) those two border agents rail roaded by the Bush’s and Cheyney’s.
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oldnamvet Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
He hung GWBush and olliy north for iran drug deals by cia
HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Fuckin’A Right he did!!! Y’all read “Powderburns” and y’all get it!!! Bob & NamVet, y’all have a goodin’!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
July 12th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Big brother will (make) any/use excuse to put those who goes against it in jail.
Zinbanski Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
And that is what this is too. See above post by Teach.
July 12th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
good luck with the appeal
July 12th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
guess that 50 bucks didnt help
July 12th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Celles website, drug and Govt involvement its all here http://www.powderburns.org/
July 12th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
FEAR FEAR FEAR, we’re all going to federal prison…..OMG………………yawn
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
You shall wake up from that slumber though !!!
July 12th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Clackamas walmart use’s body doubles to frame people they want dead as pedophiles!
July 12th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
y’eard me
mercyflush Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
only just.
July 12th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Lesson = Don’t Mess With The New World Order. Their criminal agents will get even with hero’s like Cele who expose their evil.
July 12th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
im your saviour it aint obama
we can chop em up and feed em to a llamba (Sppppp?
July 12th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
respect for the fam but shit homes no kak
July 12th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
think of all the death and shit you guys fucked up like no dice im settin a date just havin fun
July 12th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
dont even tell me you fuckers got writers get greenspan to see this asap , im sealin his coffin with i dunno blood i guess. guts.
July 12th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
300 LOL, what a BRAAAAAAAAAVE 300 they were.
July 12th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
i can read spellin can go flip flop hows it sound hows it drop
July 12th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
jones you back on the right yet er what dog camman patch this up ill holla at you from a pay quick
July 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
im buying a mic tomorrow and finding an open one the next
July 12th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
ill just the bank tomorrow too but i got bricks have faith y’all have FAITH.
r————-e-s-p-e-c-t was pretty good.
oh another reall coolthing…
you’ve been hit by a SMOOOOOOOOOTH CRIMINAL
July 12th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
live fast or let death but dont be an HA thats lame
July 12th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
i guess obama likes the orgies hey guys
July 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Jesus one was aite but he didnt realize
Most gotta live , some gotta DIE!
July 12th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
countdown to paradise guys yeah! : )
July 12th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
all yall drone hood botz i was upstairs writing rhyme sorry
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Be careful with those rhymes, look at my post above if you want a warning and sum inspiration.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
My FreedomLover’s and BenHur’s we gotta do this
July 12th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Jesus one was aite but he didnt realize
Most gotta live , some gotta DIE
July 12th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
strap down hur no subliminal just literall got a machette come find me cop
July 12th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
FIND ME COP FIND ME lol
so many supercops out there on there crazy powertrips, just illin with their blue boys being the bo$$
July 12th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
lots of people these days were born in a breeding ground of failure . troubling , dissappointing, pitiful and final
July 12th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
all you pharohs made me wake up ya heard
July 12th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
im white but we can still chill its ALL GOOD IN THE HOOD
July 12th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
you should have appreciated the world more greenspan/bush/cheney , walked around and smelt the flowers
July 12th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
like yourself vs world without any fan boyz. yeah.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Slave of Allah Reply:
July 12th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Why is Christ the cure? even Jesus peace be upon him, said that there is no god but God, and his message was completely monotheism, not self-worship
Follow the message of all the prophets – Islam
It’s just gotta catch quick hommie . I feel you for sure. Call me the saviour i dont care , i am stepping up to the plate is all im saying.
we all gotta little satan in us, its called survival instinct. once PAST THIS you can really start enjoy life lololol.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
My name’s alan im SOOOOOOOOO much better than everyone cause my dad was a banker oh fuck you and your apologies cocky bitch
July 12th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
ill tell you one thing slave of allah is having a lot more fun than you guys REALLY WILL BE HAVING. i gotta creative mind remember.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
ok.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
peace be with you.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....g&NR=1 real truth
July 12th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
you aint never c-murder bro
July 12th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
youve created a hell on earth for these people
John Martin
Fort McMurray Alberta T9H 5J4
stay strapped stay free. in your own mind : )
July 12th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
sad video man i wish i could talk to that guy
July 12th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
http://www.thevenusproject.com
we can all work together. we are one. we have farm land.
July 12th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Imagine how much progress we can make 6 billion people WORKIN TOGETHER
July 12th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
all i have to say boyz . peace
July 12th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Fight the good fight and get fuckin’ rolled!!! I guess Shanghai’d(Atlanta Rhythm Section) would be in order!!! Cele…my heart’s out to you bro’!!! Talk about buLLLshit!!! “Small steps the Soviet flag waves near the precipice”(Robin Elston). On that note…”All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
July 12th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
No angel is incredible. Jay Dobyns was gonna be Robyn.
but hell guys WE DONT NEED A KING. \\m//
July 13th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Rather interesting. Has few times re-read for this purpose to remember. Thanks for interesting article. Waiting for trackback
July 13th, 2009 at 12:09 am
Hey Kurt, Have you thought of looking up the Court Opinions on Westlaw or Lexis Nexis online subscription? I know the local trial courts wouldn’t show the opinions, but the appellate courts and federal courts will publish their opinions on Westlaw or Lexis Nexis.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:05 am
Does anyone find this surprising? Giving the State of our current incarnation of Government, NOTHING should surprise anyone!!!!!!!
July 13th, 2009 at 2:06 am
If You’re Not Free, I’m Not Free!!
http://www.redpillvsbluepill.weebly.com
July 13th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Celerino Castillo is a real hero, he is one of my favorite interviews that AJ has ever done. He blew the whistle on our cia guys sawing little girls in half, in front of her parents, on film, to show the villagers to make them compliant, in central america. I’m suprised “they” have even let him live this long. He should have gone into hiding or left the country years ago. God bless him. This “world” hammers the nails through the hands of the saints into their cross, hate the world. Love GOD, Jesus is His name. We can’t fight the world, but we can hide.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I knew the CIA were screwed up , but this raises the level of scumminess to a level I’d rather
not ever had been exposed to !!! Thanks for the tip , and godspeed for Cele !!!
P.S. When Lassie barks twice , it’s time to take out the trash !!!
July 13th, 2009 at 2:57 am
They built a case against him because he opened his mouth, period. Never, ever say anything to a cop or other agent working for the government– you’ll end up incriminating yourself and they will invent whatever lies necessary to make sure you’re indicted, tried and jailed. This includes all you “innocent” folks out there too. ‘Cooperation’ is synonymous with an admission of guilt, regardless of the truth of the matter. The ONLY words out of your mouth when someone with a badge wants to “chat” should be, “Am I being detained?”, and if so, “I refuse to answer any further questions. I hereby request immediate legal representation, thank you.” Say anything else at your own peril. It’s incredible how even guys in law enforcement often fail to do this.
July 13th, 2009 at 3:12 am
http://911essentials.com says forward this story to all you know that think they still live in a free country with good people in charge.
911essentials is a primer portal introduction to the New World Order Corporate Banking Police State, its plans for one world government and their worship of the fake science Eugenics.
July 13th, 2009 at 3:22 am
Corruption in our legal system is very rampant and this is not even the worst!
http://www.americasrepublicmilitia.net
July 13th, 2009 at 3:42 am
word up last sentence lol
July 13th, 2009 at 3:55 am
im sorry im freakin out i think im sick my dad is freakin out at me.
July 13th, 2009 at 3:56 am
LCC truth
http://contraperiodismodotorma.....ismo-friki
July 13th, 2009 at 6:15 am
This man is being sent to prison for 37 years (a life sentence, at his age) for a non-crime. The laws that sent this man to prison are in complete violation of the Constitution (of which the Second Amendment is certainly a part) and are, therefore, completely illegitimate and without force of law.
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:29 am
It just goes to show that If they want to put you in prison they will. I’m not saying Castillo did everything right, but he wasn’t breaking the law either. Whenever I find out someone’s arrested who was a whistleblower I say to myself that I’d like to see the real story.
July 13th, 2009 at 7:13 am
new wake up flyer: put uncle sam pointing words: “reality wants YOU!!
to satand up” –
pic. of uncle sam followed by
“keep your human rights
& the Constitution.
http://www.infowars.com
simplicity and obviousness,
stay away from the obscure, it’s good advice, peace, yall
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 11:38 am
couldn’t have said it better myself
July 13th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Unfortunately, Cele made a bad mistake hiring his attorney. Alex raised the funds for his attorney via his radio show. He asked Cele to get back with him before he hired an attorney because he knows how corrupt the system is.
Cele didn’t do that. he really f’d up by hiring a criminal lawyer to represent him without doing a serious background check. Now, he’ll pay up to 37 years of his life for it.
It’s really a shame. He’s a great guy.
July 13th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Добавил в закладки. Теперь буду почаще читать!
July 13th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Как там у вас с погодой? Давно не писали
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:37 am
What is this an infiltrator??
July 13th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Federal law allows you to sell guns privately so long as you are not doing so to make a living. I don’t see what the problem is with him making a few private sales? Did the law change?
Jason the Fed
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I don’t care what the law said, I believe in GOD”S LAWS wehn the government disobeys GOD there isnt anything ‘ILLEGAL’
July 13th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Dont go Cele!!!! When they begin to feed on their own it’s getting real bad. Cele did the right thing and was crucified for it. He pulled back the curtain on the powers. The judge and the attorney are corrupt. When the SHTF I can only pray we can get to those like Cele, The Browns, Irwin Schiff, and so many others political prisoners can be freed.
July 13th, 2009 at 9:52 am
they killed JFK, anyone in theyr’e eyes is expendable. I mean ANYONE!!
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:32 am
I don’t think it was the same person though. The people who killed JFK might have taught new people. I know they have medical technlogies that we don’t, but there’s no way it was the same people in my mind.
biggyj Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:37 am
and in your mind there is no JESUS, therefore you are wrong, I don’t believe the lies you speak Jesus gave us the medicine possible and until you know that through the facts of the bible then you will always believe false lies
NeverUnderestimateTheUN Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Also I am not against God but I think we should ask for evrything we want to learn from the him and ask him if he is real or if it is the governement trying to control us. There’s no way to know until you ask the questions you want the answers to on the internet and double check the so-called facts!
July 13th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Maybe you have to read all my posts beofre you judge me, I believe it was Jesus who said not to judge people until you understand their hearts so read your own scripture first and don’t judge me until you read everything I’ve written and understand my own heart.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I so enjoyed this “Shoe on the other foot” approach. Well thought out, clearly expressed & Spot ON!
Global Warning Reply:
July 13th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Dear Yeah,
Yeah starts his day drinking flouridated water from his municipal water source all approved by bi-partisan politicians who “don’t want cavities in your stomach”. He pops a couple of pills that he saw advertised on TV that help “shaky legs”, and “stop the urge to smoke”. Yeah loves the fact that he can have tax payers pay 90% of the cost thanks to government run health care. Yeah also knows the drugs are safe because politicians care, and would never allow dangerous drugs to be sold in America. Yeah doesn’t bother to read the drug insert that says in fancy language that he will likely lose his genital functions and may have the pleasure centers of his brain chemically labotimised.
Yeah eats his breakfast of eggs and bacon. The eggs come from chickens that are injected with growth hormone and live in their own filth in small cages. The bacon he eats was never a popular food item until propaganda genius Edward Burnaise introduced it 100 years ago. Yeah chops up a tomato that was genetically engineered with a cock roach gene to make it last on the shelf longer. Yeah doesn’t mind any of that he just pumps his veins full of chloresterol and frankin-food because he trusts the government to make food safe.
Yeah gets in the shower and enjoys the clorinated water that dries out his skin. Then he applies the soap and shampoo that is made from “detergent” otherwise known as poisonous industrial waste. Yeah is happy to read all the big words on the ingredients list that make him proud of his government for keeping the shampoo makers honest.
Yeah gets dressed and goes outside to take a deep breath of Chem-spray. He watches the pretty planes as they make checker board patterns in the sky. Along with the spray he breaths in exhaust fumes not caring that alternative energy for cars has been suppressed for decades. His liberal neighbor friend comes over to say good morning and farts while Yeahs mouth is open. Great day to be breathing for Yeah.
Yeah goes to work by getting on the rail system that was forced upon the taxpayers to “cut carbon emissions”. Yeah doesn’t care that the rail system is inefficient and must use tax dollars to stay in existence. It’s for the greater good. So people that live outside the city get to pay for Yeah to get to work.
Yeah gets to work at his job that pays well thanks to the government mandated minimum wage. He makes a whole $7.50 an hour and gets all the “Bennies” thanks to his Union that charges $30.00 a pay check to everyone even if they don’t want a Union. It’s the same Union that used to represent a company that went to another country because the Union made it impossible for the company to make profits. But Yeah doesn’t care he loves his life.
It’s time for Yeah to go to the bank. He takes his fiat money that is issued as debt on the public and has cool satanic symbols printed on the back. Yeah loves that if the bank goes bust his money is insured so they will just print up more out of thin air to make Yeahs’ loot safe. Yeah doesn’t care that hyper inflation will result he just trusts everything.
Yeah pays his mortgage to a federal lender that went bankrupt because of criminal hedging and bad loans. That is OK because that federal lender was “too big to fail”, so the Government bailed them out with tax dollars. He pays his federal student loan put up by tax payers. Yeah loves living off the backs of others. What a great thing that he was educated and makes minimum wage.
Yeah gets off work and goes to his farmer dads house. His farmer dad sits in his overalls and looks out the window at a field of weeds. Monsanto came and tilled under his crops because the wind blew some Monsanto pollen onto his field and now he is being sued by them for illegally growing the GM crops patented by Monsanto. He also lost his government subsidy when they found out he was growing crops on a field that he was paid to leave dirt. Daddy has a shotgun next to his lazy-boy and will “kill himself” before he goes to prison. But at least he has a TV and electricity thanks to the government. Private companies would have left the poor bugger in the dark. Only government cares enough to provide TV to farmers. If daddy wins the court battle he plans to retire… but wait, he was independent, he didn’t contribute to SS, guess he will have to sell the farm.
Yeah goes home in his prius with a rainbow sticker. He turns on the radio and on comes Alex Jones. Yeah gets a feeling of disgust. He says out loud, “this guy should be put in jail, he is un-american, how can he be allowed to criticize government, there should be a law!”. Yeah goes home and calls his liberal rep and demands that they pass hate speech and fairness doctrine legislation to rid the air waves of the likes of ALEX JONES “we don’t need these thankless jerks upsetting the apple cart”… do we Yeah?
July 13th, 2009 at 11:57 am
I WILL PRAY FOR CASTILLO. WILL YOU? ONLY WAY UP IS JESUS! FREE REPUBLIC NOW!
July 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
“Yeah” – Buddy, I would stomp your ass if I ever saw you on the street. Now get the fuck out of here with your liberal homosexual bullshit.”
Sure you would Internet tough guy.
July 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Oh no! He kind of indirectly sold 2 rifles to Mexicans! That could make the difference in the drug fights from all the weapons being sold outright by the Mexican and South American Militarys to the Drug Cartels. The CIA hates competition.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
The goal for NWO is to make any one who enjoys freedom a prisoner, either working for free in a private for profit prison or working for peanuts and floraded water.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
he goes home indeed
July 13th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Isn’t the REAL thrust of all this to get across 2 main points: Rat on us and your life isn’t worth 2 cents; a one month sentence for ex-dea is a death sentence?? Even if his gung fu is top notch, there’s no way he can survive prison without blunt trauma to the head or a stabbing. The legal points made or taken away are just window dressing— this is obviously just a gotchya court drama. What will they offer the man who shanks Castillo in prison? Favorable treatment for his family? 37 years! He wont survive one. And they know it.
Sound paranoid? Of course!! I,m from Los Angeles this is how the city has always been run: make waves and you wind up in court hearing testimony from someone you’ve never seen before on charges you’ve never imagined. Then your lack of cooperation comes up and through the fog you get that the judge is going to add time for that. Just like Vegas, N’orleans, and a million small towns/counties throughout what used to be America. They are killing this man to send a message to all whistleblowers and they’ll get away with it.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
How is it that everyone is all horah about christianity when the majority have no idea what other religion teaches and the only connnection with christianity they have is parents, community, and church. Logically, it would seem fair if all religions were evaluated first then a decision made instead of taking a shortcut with the easiest one available at the time. What is most humorous is how people can say all these things like you can’t have rights without God or liberty without God yet skips the inconvenient of proving his existance yet expects others to follow just because of all these other fringe benefits.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
fog him…work for the devil…take it in the tail
July 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Hey infowarriors want to take a more hands on approach, you can email Mark Roomberg the US Attorney who “inferred” that Cele was selling guns illegally to Mexico as part of the prosecutions case against Cele Castillo at mark.roomberg@usdoj.gov please be civil but express how you feel about the underhanded tactics and lack of ethics Mr. Roomberg demonstrated from reading Cele’s account of the trial and his notes to the judge.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
mercy bro im not eating this wendys bullshit my whole life man makes me too sick.
July 13th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
It seems likely that De La Garza was chosen to ‘represent’ Castillo because De La Garza could be easily comporomised/blackmailed by the prosecution of whom is prosecuting De La Garza’s son who is also up on weapons charges.
Dept. of Justice seems more corrupt day to day.
Payoffs, blackmail, threats, lies, deceit……unbelievable what this country is coming to. Roomberg should be prosecuted himself and disbarred before he does this to another.
It also appears Judge W. Royal Furgeson Jr., was paying back a favor to the previous administration by slam dunking Castillo for informing on the Iran/Contra criminal activity. Hey, aren’t those fellows still free and at large????
There are too many judges owed too many favors to politicians whom put them in office. This MUST STOP asap. People UNITE and take back ‘YOUR’ govt. one way….or another. Remove the scum from positions of authority…one way ….or another.
Take the Country back from the International bankster/Illuminati scum of whom’s End is to enslave you and your progeny in a New World Order of serfdom.
Fight or fear? You decide.
July 13th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Sounds like they are pissed that Cele has the support of Alex Jones and it sounds like they are punishing him for speaking out on his show.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
When will people learn that when it comes to government, keep your mouth shut!!! 5th Amendment is there for a reason.