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Cheney weighs fratricide to sell war on Iran
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Press TV
August 3, 2008
Prominent journalist Seymour Hersh exposes details of a plan considered by US Vice President Dick Cheney on how to provoke war with Iran.
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“There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war [with Iran],” Hersh said recently in reference to the subject of discussion at a meeting held at Cheney’s office.
In a July article published in the New Yorker, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist revealed information about covert US operations carried out in Iran. He did not disclose the content of the talks with Cheney in his article.
In a recent interview with Think Progress, however, Hersh exposed that the meeting witnessed Cheney mulling over a proposal to dress up Navy SEALs as Iranians and shoot them in order to trigger a war with Iran.
“The one (plan) that interested me the most was why don’t we build – we in our shipyard – build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy SEALs on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Strait of Hormuz, start a shoot-up,” he revealed in his recent interview.
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“Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. That’s the kind of – that’s the level of stuff we’re talking about. Provocation.”
The well-known journalist added that the proposal was ultimately rejected.
“Look, is it high school? Yeah. Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We’re playing, you know, who’s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran,” he continued.
Hersh argues that should Washington engineer ‘the right incident’, Americans will ’support’ going to war with Iran.
Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Myron Hersh first gained worldwide recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai massacre and its cover-up during the Vietnam War.
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August 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 am
This is from 3 days of the condor. It’s a film starring Robert Redford. Rings true today. The film was made over 30 years ago.
Turner: Boy, what is it with you people? You think not getting caught in a lie is the same thing as telling the truth?
Higgins: No. It’s simple economics. Today it’s oil, right? In ten or fifteen years, food. Plutonium. And maybe even sooner. Now, what do you think the people are gonna want us to do then?
Turner: Ask Them.
Higgins: Not now — then! Ask ‘em when they’re running out. Ask ‘em when there’s no heat in their homes and they’re cold. Ask ‘em when their engines stop. Ask ‘em when people who have never known hunger start going hungry. You wanna know something? They won’t want us to ask ‘em. They’ll just want us to get it for ‘em!
Fits in with the american mentality. You all want cheap GAS
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 am
but when you tell people they just roll their eyes.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 am
Why doesnt anyone comment on this article, probably the most important one on the website right now. People come on WAKE UP. CHENEY IS A BEAST AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN. ANYTHING. THAT MEANS KILL AMERICAN PEOPLE.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 am
This is a good reminder of the tactics used by the nazis to provoke support for their war of aggression against Poland. Search for Operation Himmel for the history lesson.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:38 am
I EMAILED CHENEY THE OTHER DAY, AND ASKED ABOUT THE PT BOAT PLAN , AND I ASKED IF HE AND AND BUSH BOTH COULD BE ON THAT BOAT, I BET BOTH OF THE CHICKEN s---S ARE FRIGHTEN OF WATER, NOT TO MENTION A BULLET . JUST LIKE HITLER THEY ARE BOTH MOUTH AND CANT DO NOTHING BY THEIR CHICKEN s--- SELVES. LIKE THE POPE HIS FAITH HAS HIM BEHIND 3 ENCH BULLET PROOF GLASS, THEY ALL ARE FAKES ! ALSO DONT OUR OWN ARMY PEOPLE KNOW RIGHT AND WRONG , STAND DOWN AND TELL BUSH GO TO HELL.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 am
Correction:
search for Operation Himmler
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 am
Cheney & all the Cheney’s before him throughout history made their own freewill decisions that they could have turned away from, but love that worldly power & wealth as to them it makes them a big important somebody. He could turn away from that mindset but usually the Cheney types never do turn away from that mindset. He’s a part of what is called The Law in this world & there has never been any shortage of evil men who loved worldy power & wealth that dressed themselves up as a govt & called themselves, The Law.
Jesus said whatever justice you mete out towards others so shall the same justice be meted out towards you. The Cheney’s of the world get to meet the real law one day. The judgment of the Cheney’s of the world is up to Jesus. All I can do is decide for myself that I don’t want to do the things the Cheney’s of the world have done throughout history. Prophecy states this world will become an ever increasing world of evil. If it isn’t there yet it doesn’t have far to go.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:47 am
Cheney’s strategy could be to:
(1) get the official US military involved in 3 simultaneous foreign wars fronts, so that the official US military is completely over-extended,
(2) continue funnelling monies to private “security” and “intelligence” contractors to increase their power,
(3) create a false flag alert in the continental US, creating an excuse to send in private contractors to arrest, disarm and jail enough citizens to terrorize the remainder into submission,
(4) eventually pit private contractors directly against the official US military and official State Police forces,
(5) complete the Coup d’ Etat overthrow of the US government.
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 am
We need another war,there are lots of Iranians that need killin!
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm
why is there iranian personal websites on this forum. So sad….
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 pm
Does anyone know the odd’s in Vegas for the war with Iran? Considering you can bet on anything in Vegas, I imagine they must have something going.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Oh yeah, Jim, Seriously? “Iranians need some killin”? You sound like the brainwashed masses thinking that “Iran must be evil since people there wear a towel on their heads”. If you insist on being on the internet, take the time to try and educate yourself. If that doesn’t sound like how you want to spend your time, then go back to watching American Gladiators and American Idol. Go bury your head in the sand.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Cheney, Bush, pelosi, congress and senate..including many agencies. Your not americans. Your communists or dictator wanna-bes, sellouts, brainwashed hitler scum. Your the criminals for state approved seizure thefts and laws which enable things like reposession which is theft. remember satan The accuser. In the bible, the angels of heaven hated satan because all he could do was seek out creatures in the universe he could bring before God and point out the flaws, that is you government, an annoying sellout rat. But like satan, you are the biggest flaw in our universe. In the end you dont matter, your useless murdering idiots and there will be one place left to go for you..hell. For 1000 years. The best government, is Gods. God is forgiving, just, all seeing, loving, caring, creationist, transfigurationist. Im not worried about being a sinner or a criminal in your corrupt hypocrate eyes, because the true non masonic, non christian or non islamic God of Gods will prove your religions were created by people in a timeof its own, sadly the modern day forgot to advance technologicly, and became conspiratorial and scheming, so the master has to come and clean up a bit to keep us alive from satan a frothing fat penguin.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 pm
#7 shadowdancer
The ‘Law’ is only one man’s wishes and words forced on another! That’s about the sum of it.
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Damn I hate this son of a bitch….I can’t even watch him on tv without wishing he’ll be publicly executed one day.Down with Bush and Cheney!!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:35 pm
CHENEY NOT ONLY IS A CRIMINAL AND A DICKHEAD!! HE EVEN LOOKS LIKE ONE!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Provocking a war? Um, class…. can you say “illegal”? Apparently these Satanic bastards think they can just do anything now! PUBLICLY! We can be productive if we are informed and force the issues. I need all you military guys to go on strike. Work at a minute lube or whatever, just don’t be pawns in their game. Your real friends and home is HERE. Infowars.com Together we are making a difference. Many hands make light work!
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Hmmm, I wonder if any of these dozen or so ideas involve crashing planes into buildings? Nah, that would never work.
f--- YOU DICK CHENEY, YOU TRAITOROUS SON OF A BITCH!
August 3rd, 2008 at 12:46 pm
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”– David Rockefeeer.
“We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money”.— Arthur Schlesinger,Jr. 1995
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:21 pm
We the people of America are the personal protectors of our own freedoms, we need to simply take back what is ours, we simply must go get bush and stinkeye cheney let them swing for treason as well as the operators of the federal reserve and treasury dept, the traitorous heads of the media and our own congress and senate, revolution people, thats the answer, we are many they are few together we are very, very strong, we will not go quietly into the night, but roar like lions and move like thunder, we the people are coming and hell is coming with us. you neocons best get on the right side or your on the list.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Cheap gas you say done-dusted in prudo bay alaska and gull island we have 2 of the largest oil pools in the world not to mention more natural gas than anywhere on the planet. but we cant have it the us govt wont allow it pumped and refined here, because gas would be so cheap the big iol boys who drove the price up wouldent make the huge profits from gougeing us now. so shut the f--- up and eat s---.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:31 pm
This should be the only topic on main stream news – how pathetic – can they be more obvious?
http://www.DailyNewscaster.com
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Well, Cheney is one hell of a guy! Will he compeat with predecesors like Eisenhower, McArthur or Patton?
He is a real (what kind of war) hero, while 60.000 young Americans died in a “False Flag” codenamed “The Gulf of Tonkin” he is watching the inflying bodybags from a savehouse somewhere in the US, and he smiled! The same as his friend G.W. Bush!
In that case, I admire Adolf Hitler even more, (god forgive me, while I’m not even religious) for the fact that he has the nerve to fight on the front in WWI!
So, that’s what you’re dealing with, a bunch of cowards who doesn’t hasitate to send young Americans to the front, and smiling watch them flying in, in bodybags! And afterwards saying, yes it’s a great loss!
Come on people, were talking about human lives here! Doesn’t anybody care about human lives anymore? Imagine, it’s your’e son, daughter, husband or wife!
Are we waiting for a “False Flag” codenamed “The Strait of Hormuz”?
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:42 pm
This report was on TV Democracy Now 8-1-08
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/1/headlines#2
Hersh: US Considered Ways to Provoke War with Iran
Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has revealed the Bush administration recently held a meeting in Vice President Cheney’s office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran. Hersh said it was considered during the meeting to stage an incident where it would appear that Iranian boats had attacked US forces in the Straits of Hormuz.
Seymour Hersh: “There was a dozen ideas proffered how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was, why don’t we build—we, in our shipyard—build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats, put Navy Seals on them with a lot of arms, and, the next time one of our boats goes through the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up. Might cost some lives. And it was rejected, because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. But that’s the kind of—that’s the level of stuff we are talking about: provocation. But that was rejected.”
Seymour Hersh discussed the report during a recent interview at the Campus Progress journalism conference.
*also Democracy Now reported on the Fusion Centers on the same TV broadcast.
August 3rd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
The next time, it could be you
By Stan Switzer, Sligo
I’m sure that almost everyone who reads the newspapers or watches the news on TV is aware of the government raid on Morgie Jones.
It is an outrage that these so called law enforcement officers would find it necessary to arrest Morgie on Sunday morning as he was leaving church.
Their excuse for this maneuver, according to the media, was that they did not want to confront him in his “compound.”
If they have had Morgie under surveillance since 2005, according to the media, they would have known that Morgie is no threat to them, or anyone else, as they have been harassing him on and off for over 20 years and never had anything to “hang their hat on,” so to speak.
Even with the lies and made up stories about Morgie by some low-life miscreant who Morgie befriended, the governments’ case appears to be very thin.
The government spokespersons have been, by their insinuations and statements to the media, attempting to demonize Morgie as they did the Branch Davidians at Waco and Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge and have him convicted in the public’s eye as being a “mad scientist” who is out to destroy his community, county and who knows what.
Along with that he has, of all things, a .50-caliber “sniper rifle” as well as numerous other weapons, including AK-47 “assault rifles,” etc. and stockpiles of ammunition.
However; they don’t mention the fact that this is all legal and there is no law that regulates the number of firearms you can own or the amount of ammunition you can have.
However, not only did they confiscate all of his guns, records, papers etc., but have him locked up in jail until he is brought to trial, which could be at least six months from now, because, they, the government agents, along with a clueless magistrate, have considered him to be a threat to the community.
This atrocity is sanctioned by our corrupt judicial system.
As a side note, the U.S. Government has never allowed, since the civil war, anyone, group or individual to stockpile any significant amount of guns and ammunition without trumping up some charge as an excuse to raid and destroy them. The Branch Davidians ( approximately 80 people), had 96 firearms which were mostly hunting rifles and it has never been proven they had anything illegal. Besides, Janet Reno had to “save the children.” so they had them killed by gassing and burning them to death.
Another of the government ploys to demonize Morgie was that he is a “captain” in a militia. Militias, in case you do not know, are not illegal. In fact, according to one of our founding fathers, George Mason, when asked, What is a militia, responded, “Well sir, it is the whole of the people.”
In other words, “you” as an able-bodied citizen of the Unites States – are a member of the unorganized militia. Now, are you going to be content to be “demonized” as well as Morgie has been?
Your constitutional been illegally usurped by the government over the years as their basis for gun-control legislation (read people control).
Their ultimate goal is total gun confiscation. (You are to be a servant not a citizen).
It is time for the citizens to wake up and put these overzealous politicians with their illegal laws and the Gestapo type behavior of the law enforcement agents back into the Constitutional box that they have oozed from over the past 50 years, like the slime they have become.
The next time, it could be you! i have known this man all my life he was a threat to no one and they just happened to arrest him on his way out of church on sunday what a crock. this folks is bush , the patriot act… it really exists heres the proof, and by the way he was is is not in any militia i know, he a decent hard working guy, we need to get some major media on this or maybe alex jones, c,mon alex help an innocent guy out.
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pm
No, I’m not ready yet! I’m so pissed off on these so called “war heroes”, “war criminals” thats what they are, and they deserve “Capital Punishment” nothing more, nothing less! They are not even allowed to stand before the “International Tribunal”, which they declined anyway!
I’ve had it, with the whole bunch of politcians!
August 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
@American Veteran #25,
I don’t know what kind of veteran you are? Vietnam I suppose?
But isn’t it so, they fear a inland revolt?
Correct me if I’m wrong!
In case you are a Vietnam vet, did they gave you any medical backup, like PTSS? I can imagine you’ve got a lot to deal with!
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Forget impeachment,the Hague,court martials,just give the bastard a fast track to HELL !!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:24 pm
why does cheney always want to get the American people (and everyone else) in trouble?
Is he some kind of psychopath?
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Im a veteran of Golf 1 and 2 been home for 19 months where killing for nothing. The only thing where doing is making KBE richer
Lt.Funk UsArmt Ret
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
My bad fat fingers
Lt.Funk UsArmy Ret.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:36 pm
This, just like most of the other stories on this website, should be mainstream news. Sadly most Americans will never know about it. I hope Hersh makes a big deal about this in future interviews and forces the media to talk about it!.
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
How long are we going to put up with this s---?
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
This madman has no consequences…
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
God told me I would risk my own life if I messed with Dick Chaney. f--- YOU DICK. You treasonous bastard. You know I got muscle enough. I will crush you Dick Chaney. Strength is coursing through my body. Half inch stable braid Chaney.
I AM THE GOVERNMENT. You will learn this.
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
As Alex Jones said in his opening comments today “Hersh has had the highest access to the White House since Vietnam”,and that means that his “sources” have been NWO,and if his “sources” are NWO that means they want it out,making Hersh a puppet at best,releasing info that the NWO want to come out,I think what they wanted out was that the US public would support this if they were fooled by it,so just maybe its time to look at Hersh in a different light,thoughts?
August 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Dick Cheney before Cheney dicks you
August 3rd, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I have a good proposal to trigger war with Iran:
Let’s get Cheney and Bush beheaded Iranian style with a huge Scimitar!!!
How about that? I guess Americans would love it too, and we can talk about going to war afterwards.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm
The best way to start a war with Iran is to have Israel start it for us. Iran with retaliate against Israel and the U.S. If that were to happen I’m sure Congress would give the green light for action.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Let’s dress Vice and Shrub up like Iranians in mock Iranian PT’s (they’re not Americans anyway)…and let the SEALS go after them. Consider it ’severance pay’ for jobs well done.
August 3rd, 2008 at 6:50 pm
To all MEN of honor! Stop playing their GAMES and START calling your SORRY REPS and get in their face like I do. Tell them that we won’t go away and that one day WE WILL judge their actions and their names will be written in history for good or bad. Tell them that it’s GUT CHECK TIME and you can take my life but AT A VERY HIGH COST!!!! Remember your oath and if you are a combat vet you know that there are times that putting your life on the line is what MEN do for their citizens and not the crimanal F#$& in gov. Way to much evidence to be ignored and anything less is a MASSIVE INSULT to your intelligence. STOP THE MADDNESS NOW
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Let’s put the whole Administration in a PT boat and let them attack Iran themselves!
They want it, they can have it.
Why should the good US Army fight when only the creeps in the administration want war?!?
And please don’t forget to put Henry Kissinger in the boat too!
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:15 pm
9-11 was a long time ago planned false flag staged event….just like this article says of another planned false flag staged event.
Also:
Watch September Clues on YouTube. Stop relying on “witnesses” and look at it yourself. How can you say there were no planes in Shanksville? Witnesses said there were? The government said there was? The rescuers said there were planes? Laura Bush even visited the site a week later and said there was? The lies become overwhelming in their depth.
The reason the world will do anything to stop you from understanding that there were no planes at all on 911…..is because then you will truly know the depth of the criminality of the “media” itself in telling the lies of 911. Watch September Clues. The owners of the US media are among the largest military contractors in the world. They have great motivation to perpetuate a terrible lie and crime that they are a part of. Notice on 911 that Rupert Murdoch provided “coverage” for EVERY STATION at one point. For hours Rupert Murdoch was supplying the only feeds to nbc, cbs, abc, cnn, and every affiliate in the world on the morning of 911. The world is now waking up to just how criminal Fox news really is besides supporting Bush and his lies from day one.
Look at all the “videos”. Some have bulges on the bottom…some don’t. If everyone was filming the same event wouldn’t every film have a “bulge”? That’s what happens when multiple people are involved with video fakery….none of them show the exact same thing.
The reason Cheney ordered the entire front of the Pentagon covered up immediately after the attacks at the Pentagon was because a missile may have been used, even though the explosives were planted during the so-called “renovation” at the exact spot of the plane crash. If it were a missile then the depleted uranium would have been all over the ground and radioactive, which could easily be detected unless you immediately covered the entire area with 2-6 feet of dirt which he did. OR…..the man-made explosions could have easily been detected from the blast…..which is another good reason to cover it up. At Shanksville they have simply made it illegal to go near the crash site.
On Monday Sept 10th 2001 there was over 1000 people in NYC that had arrived for a “rehearsal of a major catastrophe”. This is why Giuliani’s bunker had been moved to the dock. In other words…over 1000 witnesses/filmmakers were on hand to tell the lies immediately on the morning of 911. Watch September Clues and look at some of these hired goons that did interviews with Fox news.
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 pm
I’m a Vietnam Vet and I’m tired of People bitching about us.
I was exposed to Agent Orange and suffering from it now.People are still blaming us for losing the
undeclared war.Ho-Chi-Minh The President of North Vietnam at that time said that it wasn’t the U.S fighting man fighting in South east Asia at that time didn’t lose the war it was the “IDIOTS”in Washington D.C and the American Public that Lost the war.
So button up “Pip Squeak”
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:46 pm
#32 CherriBomb- Your right!!! This story should be made major headlines on CNN, FOX, CBS, NBC, and ABC. But unfortunately, these media outlets are lapdogs instead of watchdogs of our government. In addition, some media companies (such as NBC owned by GE) are tied into the “MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-COMPLEX” as Eisenhower warned about. And let’s not forget what onetime media-mogul William Randolph Hearst said to his photographers,”furnish me the pictures and I will give you the war.” Further more many owners like governmet leaders are members of secret societiessuch as the Skull & Bones, Bohemian Grove, Knights of Malta, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR),The Bilderberger Group, etc. All of which have an agenda to promote globalism, bring down U.S. sovereignty, and a establish a NEW WORLD ORDER. Here are some historic examples of the Jesuits/Illumanti trying to use the HEGELIAN DIALETIC (PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION) to bring “ORDER OUT OF CHAOS”.
1953-”OPERATION AJAX”: The C.I.A. & M.I.6 covert mission that overthrew the democratically elected Mossedegh by staging bombings, riots, and propaganda against the Iranian president. The result was the Shah would take over and rule with an iron fist (with assistance of the SAVAK) until 1979.
1962-”OPERATION NORTHWOODS”: (Declassified in 2002) A Pentagon plan to stage false flag attacks against the American people by blowing up airliners, killing astronaut John Glenn, bombing Florida cities and Washigton D.C., or have U.S. Army personnel disgusied as Cubans to attack the Marines at Guantanamo Bay so the press would blame Cuba for it. Thus providing a pretext for invading Cuba and overthrowing Fidel Castro. The plan didn’t fall through because J.F.K. was agaisnt it. He was later assassinated.
1964-” The Gulf of Tonkin Incident”: (Declassified in 2005) An event that never took place. A falsified story about North Vietnamese patrol boats attacking a U.S. warship lead up to the Vietnam quagmire. The result was the deaths of over 58,000 U.S. troops and over 1 million Vietnamese.
1967-”The U.S.S. Liberty Incident”: A false flag event in which President Lyndon B. Johnson had the Israeli military attack the U.S. naval vessal and blame it on Egypt. Only the presense of a Soviet (Russian) spy ship prevented the plan from succeeding.
2001-”The September 11 Terror Attacks”: A false flag operation in which the World Trade Center (the twin towers ) along with the Pentagon were stuck by airliners. In addition, the Twin Towers and Bldg #7 (which was never hit by a plane) was also brought down by explosives. While a fourth aircraft (Flight #93) was shot down over Pennsylvania. The attacks were blamed on the C.I.A.-asset, Al-Qadea leader, Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. Then days after this event, CFR member, Gary Hart stated on CSPAN, “The president can use Sept. 11
to bring a New World Order, (quoting Bush’s father). Also, in 2002, the Bush administration tried to link C.I.A. asset, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein for having a role in the Sept 11th attacks. As a result, both countries have been invaded and are presently occupied by U.S. forces. More than 4,000 U.S. troops and over 1.5 million Iraqis and Afghans have died.
But, if it weren’t for the internet and people like Alex Jones, David Icke, Jim Marrs, and other conspiracy/alternative authors and media producers many of us would be completely in the dark as to what really goes on in this world!!!!!
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:07 pm
the ship is sinking!,and all the life boats are gone.are masters are done with us and its time to be slaughterd.we cant win,its too late,they win.check mate.lets come back next time and try it again.
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:09 pm
……got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the US and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press….Oscar Callaway, US congressman
…”We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promise of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develope our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years….David Rockefeller,1991
August 3rd, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Since we’re at war with a fictional medieval enemy, the O-Team, why not go medieval to provoke a war? We can inject Cheney with with anthrax, ebola, malaria, bird, flu–the whole kichen sink and fling his rancid carcass across the Strait of Hormuz with a huge catapult into Iran. Works for me.
Let the assholes that start war be the first casualties!!! People are pushing so hard to indict Bush should consider Cheney the greater threat. Dick Cheney should be tried for treason and strung up with piano wire.
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:03 pm
For the vice president to propose or discuss a false flag to start a war is an act of treason
and a impeachable.
When is sombody, anybody in law enforcement going to cuff Cheney and read him his rights.
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
The corporate rungs of the ladder in DC are made of nothing more than lips and butts, everyone can only see the butt above them, that needs a good kissing.
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:19 pm
#45 Grady (Iraq war vet) – my head is spinning!
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:28 pm
To #5
Consider a high school re-do.
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:34 pm
We need reporters with enough balls as Jimmy Justice to secretly film & record Cheney’s treasonous words and upload them to YouTube. The light of truth exposes the treacherous deeds of darkness done in secret.
August 3rd, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Please hide your kids.
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:13 pm
The Nazis dressed some bums up in polish uniforms, killed them and reported that they were polish “terrorists” that attacked several radio stations. Then they used it as a pretext to support invading poland in ww2
August 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 pm
This country is in trouble with the president and Vice-President being able to have such rumors to go un noticed or to have them talked about by our Media. They need to do there Jobs for once and report the Real News and whats going on in this country with our Leaders. Time to bring Cheney to the Fore Front and ask him Flat out, why do you want a war with Iran so bad? Who and how much has anyone to gain by this? These are the questions Media Years ago would be asking and lookng into for answers. Not to help praise Cheney and Bush up for there “New World Order AGENDAS.” Its Getting to be a Scarey world and thanks to Bush and Cheney Is helping us to get there. Remember how Cheney Responded when people started saying they didn’t like there kids being extended to stay in Iraq. He Responded By saying…….SO! Like Your opinion doesnt matter, and we own Your Kids. Is what he was saying. Wake up people. Our Commanders have taken our military under control. Thats yours and my Kids that are fighting There war. People say why Impeach them,they Only have few Months left before elections? Its to send a Message that they Do Not Control OUR country, they are to Lead it, Not Control it. Thats taking yours and My Freedoms from us By our Own Military Rule! thats scarey. Turned our own people against you and me and they don’t even know there being Mind controlled by them. Or why would they serve in a Military for if its not standing for what Our Fathers and Grand Fathers stood for. Look at History, People. Then Choose for yourselves if things in this country are being ran in a Righteous and Legal means. Don’t sacrifice freedoms and Honor for Pure Power take overs. Not in a country that should have learned from a war against its own people, as what happened in the Revolutionary War. The signing of the Declaration Of Independance Stood so that we wouldn’t have to fight the tyranny of our leaders again. Its to say we have a RIGHT to stand foreward if we feel that those rights are being Misguided and taken advantage of, Unlawfully!
August 4th, 2008 at 12:24 am
Where do I start? Well let me try to see if this will get your attention.
You are safe in your house and thinking all is well, well almost all. The unemployment rate is way up and you don’t know if you will have work tomorrow. Food is higher than a cats back, and don’t even mention the cost of fuel or electricity. Well your money is in the bank and that might get you through a month of hard times if you lose your job. But no worries, there is always food stamps, un-employment, welfare, HUD, and a few more that can help, right? The candidates are promising all will get better after they are elected.
Then you see that Israel and the USA have attacked Iran and things are looking bad. Well it will take a while for everybody to get oriented to what has just happened. Then you think it will never reach us here. After all they are just two little countries half way around the world. WW3 has begun.
But you forgot that some general in Russia has been saber rattling and saying things like “we reserve the right to use nuclear weapons to defend ourselves and our allies from aggressors”. Did you know that Russia has allied itself with Iran? As if that wasn’t enough, the USA wants to deploy a missile defense system in Eastern Europe. Well Russia says if we deploy that they will deploy bombers to Cuba. Well if that’s the case, then we would have nukes on our back porch. They would never think about nuking us or anything like that? Right? After all Vladimir Putin was hanging out with Bush at his ranch in Texas. They are buddies right?
Well maybe they are but they don’t give a darn about us, the people. All of them are freemasons and have an agenda to follow. Set out by the Illuminati they want to reduce the population of the world. And that means you if you are not one of them. Well they can’t just do that. There is no way that they would betray our confidence. Well just keep on believing that. So in the mean time what are we doing? Sitting on our asses while the cowards in congress are scratching their asses. They don’t want to test Bush to see if he would do what he threatened, attack Iran, declare martial law, suspend congress and the election, and turn F.E.M.A. loose on us with concentration camps, hire civilian security like Blackwater to patrol the streets and help roundup all dissidents. Does this sound like a plan?
Well it gets better. Russia will bomb the heck out of us and those that don’t die from the blasts or radiation poisoning, will be left in the stone ages. We won’t have any electricity, gasoline, diesel, food, medicine, and most cars and electronics won’t work because the circuitry is fried from the EMP {electro-magnetic pulse}. That’s a gift to you from the FCC and you didn’t even notice the warning on the back of your electronic devices. This device conforms to the FCC rules part 15. That means that in any type of nuke explosion the EMP will kill your devices. Does it ever occur to you that all new cars have an extensive computer system and the only way for them to work is that they must be in the most optimum conditions? And the states have passed laws against antique cars, because points and condensers can most likely be fixed rather quickly. Old style alternators and generators may function. But that would give someone the unfair advantage. But regardless, how far will you go on a limited amount of fuel, because the gas stations will not have electricity to dispense fuel.
Starting to get the picture? That’s just the start. That is if you weren’t already rounded up by the “law” and loaded on a FEMA train to hell. Ever read Corrie ten Boom The Hiding Place? Well it’s going to get like that. Well that’s just the layman’s version. It’s going to get bad.
Have you read that the president’s lawyers were interrogated by congress about whether or not the president can legally torture detainee’s children in front of their parents? Have you watched the videos about the rendition flights? How about the other atrocities that the uSA is doing in the name of peace and safety. Just imagine how we would react if we were being attacked like Iraq? When you get the idea that they will do anything that they want, and their mind is so gone that they can’t even distinguish between Jack Bauer, the fictitious character on the TV show 24, and reality.
Read Mathew chapter 24, Revelations, Daniel. Do I think that we have a possibility to escape? Can’t answer that right now. But the important thing is how you are with God? Are you born again? Are you ready to meet God face to face? Is your family born again? Have you evangelized all of your family and friends? Can you resist till the end?
August 4th, 2008 at 12:27 am
Where do I start? Well let me try to see if this will get your attention.
You are safe in your house and thinking all is well, well almost all. The unemployment rate is way up and you don’t know if you will have work tomorrow. Food is higher than a cats back, and don’t even mention the cost of fuel or electricity. Well your money is in the bank and that might get you through a month of hard times if you lose your job. But no worries, there is always food stamps, un-employment, welfare, HUD, and a few more that can help, right? The candidates are promising all will get better after they are elected.
Then you see that Israel and the USA have attacked Iran and things are looking bad. Well it will take a while for everybody to get oriented to what has just happened. Then you think it will never reach us here. After all they are just two little countries half way around the world. WW3 has begun.
But you forgot that some general in Russia has been saber rattling and saying things like “we reserve the right to use nuclear weapons to defend ourselves and our allies from aggressors”. Did you know that Russia has allied itself with Iran? As if that wasn’t enough, the USA wants to deploy a missile defense system in Eastern Europe. Well Russia says if we deploy that they will deploy bombers to Cuba. Well if that’s the case, then we would have nukes on our back porch. They would never think about nuking us or anything like that? Right? After all Vladimir Putin was hanging out with Bush at his ranch in Texas. They are buddies right?
Well maybe they are but they don’t give a darn about us, the people. All of them are freemasons and have an agenda to follow. Set out by the Illuminati they want to reduce the population of the world. And that means you if you are not one of them. Well they can’t just do that. There is no way that they would betray our confidence. Well just keep on believing that. So in the mean time what are we doing? Sitting on our asses while the cowards in congress are scratching their asses. They don’t want to test Bush to see if he would do what he threatened, attack Iran, declare martial law, suspend congress and the election, and turn F.E.M.A. loose on us with concentration camps, hire civilian security like Blackwater to patrol the streets and help roundup all dissidents. Does this sound like a plan?
Well it gets better. Russia will bomb the heck out of us and those that don’t die from the blasts or radiation poisoning, will be left in the stone ages. We won’t have any electricity, gasoline, diesel, food, medicine, and most cars and electronics won’t work because the circuitry is fried from the EMP {electro-magnetic pulse}. That’s a gift to you from the FCC and you didn’t even notice the warning on the back of your electronic devices. This device conforms to the FCC rules part 15. That means that in any type of nuke explosion the EMP will kill your devices. Does it ever occur to you that all new cars have an extensive computer system and the only way for them to work is that they must be in the most optimum conditions? And the states have passed laws against antique cars, because points and condensers can most likely be fixed rather quickly. Old style alternators and generators may function. But that would give someone the unfair advantage. But regardless, how far will you go on a limited amount of fuel, because the gas stations will not have electricity to dispense fuel.
Starting to get the picture? That’s just the start. That is if you weren’t already rounded up by the “law” and loaded on a FEMA train to hell. Ever read Corrie ten Boom The Hiding Place? Well it’s going to get like that. Well that’s just the layman’s version. It’s going to get bad.
Have you read that the president’s lawyers were interrogated by congress about whether or not the president can legally torture detainee’s children in front of their parents? Have you watched the videos about the rendition flights? How about the other atrocities that the uSA is doing in the name of peace and safety. Just imagine how we would react if we were being attacked like Iraq? When you get the idea that they will do anything that they want, and their mind is so gone that they can’t even distinguish between Jack Bauer, the fictitious character on the TV show 24, and reality.
Read Mathew chapter 24, Revelations, Daniel. Do I think that we have a possibility to escape? Can’t answer that right now. But the important thing is how you are with God? Are you born again? Are you ready to meet God face to face? Is your family born again? Have you evangelized all of your family and friends? Can you resist till the end?
are you feeling me yet?
August 4th, 2008 at 12:40 am
#45 Grady Iraq vet: This Iraq vet agrees!!!! Nothing willy-nilly in this world!!!
August 4th, 2008 at 12:46 am
Jimmy: Unemployment!!! You have to WORK for that!!! That’s earned!!!
August 4th, 2008 at 4:24 am
You want change? Then defend the United States Constitution! Nuff said! Peace.
August 4th, 2008 at 4:33 am
“Fascism will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible.” ~ Sinclair Lewis 1935
August 4th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Cheney’s a good kid don’t gripe about him. He does his job, he’s a good kid. We liked it when he made out with his daughter’s lesbien friend. We sent the pictures on various websites but none of them would publish them as they were afraid of losing their fingers. I hope Alex Jones gets to hump Cheney’s daughter. They seem to be a good match. Chunky and real kinky type. I hope Cheney run’s for office in Mexico or Canada soon. I really miss the Clintons but Nixon was the best a tie with Hugo Chavez anyway. I hope you all see that the best flag is a black green and yellow one representing anarcho-primitivism please keep in contact. Especially with the spirits of our ancestors.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:07 am
The size of [a] lie is a definite factor in
causing it to be believed, for the vast
masses of a nation are in the depths of
their hearts more easily deceived than
they are consciously and intentionally
bad. The primitive simplicity of their
minds renders them a more easy prey
to a big lie than a small one, for they
themselves often tell little lies but
would be ashamed to tell big ones.
Quote from Hitler! Your government and also mine have been doing there homework!
August 4th, 2008 at 6:50 am
We really need to get our media back. Thats the start
August 4th, 2008 at 10:50 am
If the Soviet Union’s elite were to accept that the portrait of Ivan Denisovich was authentic, that meant admitting that innocent people had endured pointless suffering,” wrote Anne Applebaum in her book, “Gulag: A History.” “If the camps had really been stupid and wasteful and tragic, that meant that the Soviet Union was stupid and wasteful and tragic too.”
After the book appeared, readers of Novyi Mir responded with an outpouring of letters describing their anguish and grief. “Now I read and weep, but when I was imprisoned in Ukhta for ten years I did not shed a tear,” one reader said in letter to the magazine.
Solzhenitsyn’s novel would never have been published if Khrushchev hadn’t hoped it would undermine support in the Kremlin for neo-Stalinist policies. But perhaps in part because of the novel’s publication, Khrushchev was ousted by Communist Party leaders in 1964. The gulag, meanwhile, continued to incarcerate enemies of the people until two years before the Soviet collapse.
When Solzhenitsyn won the Nobel Prize in 1970, Soviet authorities refused to let him go to Stockholm to accept the award. In the text of the speech he could not deliver to the Swedish Academy, smuggled out of the U.S.S.R., Solzhenitsyn recalled an old Russian proverb: “One word of truth shall outweigh the whole world.”
But Solzhenitsyn was not a storybook hero
August 4th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Bring back real reporters and not just talking heads who follow orders and say what they are told!!!!!!!!
August 4th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Raze the f---in’ Whitehouse for starters…Voinivichs office didn’t like that comment either but, f--- them!!! Dick should be swinging from a f---in’ tree, yardarm, or what is applicable at the moment!!!!!! And the same goes for most media outlets…light the TORCHES!!!
August 4th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
its easy to say what we would like to do but actions have always spoken louder than words. Alex Jones is one major voice in changing our country and getting things back on track in our country, hell i’ll offer him my protection services if he will follow up on my offer,but back to reality, the fact of the matter is , in this country there are three types of people, you have your sheep , sheep dogs , and the wolves. most of society are sheep we here , who discuss and see things for what they really are, we are the sheep dogs and it is our duty to protect the sheep from the wolves who are constantly trying to get at the sheep and take complete control. we can’t let that happen if it does we are all done for. so my question is are we going to sit around and talk and bitch and moan about what our own government is trying to do to us or are we going to go all out and stop them “DEAD” in their tracks with whatever means are necessary? can anyone answer that for me?!!!!!!!
soon to be everyones favorite asshole,
Captainah
August 4th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Mr. Jones if you wish to take me up on my offer contact me via email and i will respond asap. i am dead serious about this and will gladly answer any further questions you may have. i have watched most of your reports and articles as well as videos i am ready when you are to take the next step
Captainah
August 5th, 2008 at 7:33 am
Well look at it from Dicks point of view. We have togo to the “Dark-side”.