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Chertoff’s Green Crayon
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Ryan Singel
Wired
March 21, 2008
California Backs Off Real ID
For a short moment Thursday, millions of Californians were in danger of facing pat-downs at the airport and being blocked from federal buildings come May 11.
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In a Tuesday letter (.pdf) to Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff, the head of California’s DMV said that while California had already applied for and gotten an extension on the Real ID deadline, it wasn’t actually committing to complying with Real ID rules by 2010. That’s when states who ask for extension have to begin issuing driver’s licenses and state IDs that comply with the federal rules.
"California’s request for an extension is not a commitment to implement Real ID, rather it will allow us to fully evaluate the impact of the final regulations and precede with necessary policy deliberations prior to a final decision on compliance," DMV director George Valverde wrote.
States have until March 31 to request a two-year extension, and DHS had said before Thursday it won’t grant Real ID extensions to states who don’t commit to implementing the rules in the future.
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March 21st, 2008 at 8:16 am
Haha. So we get a few years extension wherein people can fall back asleep, forget it’s coming, and then have it be too late to protest once the cards are FORCED on you. Well screw that! I’m moving to the middle of nowhere, not owning a TV, not flying, not going to even drive a car if that’s what it takes. I’d rather be poor and subsistence-farming than wealthy and taking it up the poop-shoot from Senator Moneybags.
March 21st, 2008 at 9:04 am
Right on the mark David,they will wake up and find some blown out reason, we need to have these IDs in place It will keep you safe. If BS was a snow flake most of these people would be a blizzard,I can not believe how stupid most of the people in this country are it’s amazing. A PRUDENT MAN SEES WHAT IS COMING AND PREPARES HIMSELF.
March 21st, 2008 at 9:12 am
David, if you get a Farm/Ranch and are able to keep it and feed yourself/earn enough to buy good food, your already RICH imho.
March 21st, 2008 at 9:17 am
Did you know that in Russian chertoff means “son of satan” look it up , I’m serious.
March 21st, 2008 at 9:25 am
Rittmeister you said alot right there Farm/ranch and able to KEEP IT . I hope I can keep my farm its just the right size 160ac. just moved out here in the woods year and ahalf ago. God sent me out here for something so we will see.
March 21st, 2008 at 9:28 am
Right.
You could raise monsanto hormone free cows and eat steroid free chicken and eggs. Also no GMO crops. Dig a well and get non-flouridated water. Probably get 20 more healthy years out of your life.
Sounds great. (BTW I’m not being sarcastic I’m being serious)
March 21st, 2008 at 9:31 am
Cashonly,
Email me at tyson79@hotmail.com.
Would like to hear more about your land.
Thanks
March 21st, 2008 at 9:45 am
Looks like I’m living in one of the last hold-out states (South Carolina); although I don’t think we will last long without Sanford (he is anti bog government).
March 21st, 2008 at 10:07 am
Go to Katherine Albrecht’s website: http://www.NoSpyChips.Com, she talks about the elites desire to
put chips in all farm animals and have a premises ID, so all animals entering your land and leaving are tracked. It sounds like they want the chips in you as well.
You must build a high wall around your property and a “tank mote ditch [5 feet deep and 15 feet wide]” otherwise you will be removed from “your [they think you own nothing, they only rent it to you]” land. Remember with property taxes you are always vulnerable to the elite raising your Rent [Property Taxes] to such a level that you cannot pay it. They will then send in the “Ninja Turtles [Swat members]” to evict you.
March 21st, 2008 at 10:33 am
I’m not at all surprised that California caved, but what shocks me is finding my own state (Oklahoma) has, also. I had heard that they were contemplating asking for an extension, but I haven’t heard anything about it since – until now. I’m very disappointed, since Oklahoma lawmakers said they were not going to have Oklahoma participate in Real ID. What in hell has happened (as if I don’t know)?
March 21st, 2008 at 11:42 am
I WILL NOT CARRY AROUND A QUASI NATIONAL ID CARD NO MATTER WHAT OR WHO SAYS WE HAVE TO. I WILL DISOBEY ALL UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS FROM GOVERNMENT.
March 21st, 2008 at 11:47 am
Ron Paul will be on Coast-to-CoastAM with George Noory, one of Alex’s biggest media promoters because of being the largest radio show of its type worldwide, this coming Monday, March 24th. The show starts at 10pm CT. This is in response to demands from tens of thousands of listeners. Do your part…..LISTEN ALSO. Tnx.
On the Ron Paul website, it says Tuesday, the 25th. I hope it is true since it is not listed on the http://www.CoasttoCoastAM.com website at all. If it is the 24th, then that just shows all the more that there is a “mole” within the campaign. If not, then I heard wrong, although I still believe that there is a “mole” in the campaign no matter what.
Rhonda
PS: This is comment number 12
March 21st, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Make that 2 Anthony…
And Rhonda please quit spamming that message on every topic. We get it! In fact i’m not going to tune in just because of the spam.
March 21st, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Hedge,
Now is that anyway to talk about Dr. Paul? Since what I have been doing is exactly as you say, are you one of “them”, who complains about things they actually acknowledge, in this case that I have put this in DIFFERENT TOPIC AREAS?
Just because you and I are here now, what about the rest of the day when others come here? They will be going into different topics and as you know, getting to any ONE particular topic that is not listed in the most recent area is hard to get back to, especially the next day. So it seems to me that maybe you are not a Dr. Paul supporter? That is all right, but I thought someone (you) who gave out some decent talk before was a Dr. Paul type of supporter.
Then again, I have found that some Ron Paul supporters are as “bad” as other people if you dare do something they do not like. Whatever. I have spent enough time for now anyway. At least you acknowledged what I posted and that is the beginning of what I was hoping. …..Good day.
Rhonda
PS: This is comment number 14
March 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Hedge,
PS: Of course I do myself complain about that guy who always is writing “cool site” around here myself because he pushes out the other most recent real commentators. Therefore I also do understand what you mean and for that, I apologize and will quit at the present time and do it maybe again at a slower pace so as not to interfere with the list.
Rhonda
PS: This is comment number 15
March 21st, 2008 at 12:21 pm
The “cool site” thing is a spambot. Webmaster, can you post the logs for that spam – are they spoofing IP addresses? What are the referrer URLs?
March 21st, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Poor College Student,
Thank you for that about the bots. I thought so. In the “Ron Paul War Room” that was up before this blogging area, it says that there are bots there, but I am not sure if they are there listed as part of the website or not. I do not think so because when I was there a few hours ago there were “4″ listed and those “cool site” comments were being put up all over the place. Therefore I would think it would be easy to stop them. Why they are there, I have no idea.
What is also interesting in this forum is that if you write Alex’s full name, the comment will never be put up. Therefore it seems that the webmaster can program certain things not to be put up, such as bot work. Regrettably, the ones in the “War Room” have been recently complaining that they have been trying to contact either Alex or the webmaster about problems there for weeks steadily and they have not received any replies at all. I know personally that Alex and his crew do not like getting back to anyone. Even involving money they would not respond to me and when they did, they, and I say they because I did get back replies from two of them, they were rather rude. So your desire to get something done in our favor is not on the top of the to-do list.
Rhonda
PS: This is comment number 17
March 22nd, 2008 at 5:31 am
My old state ID is good until 2012. So hopefully I will be able to put off the update as long as possible. Damn Mayans probably foresaw that too.
March 22nd, 2008 at 5:03 pm
I will not get one. I live in SC, and I will be going to jail at some point as will many of my friends. One of my good friends fought this at the state house last year and I know he will fight it again. The Bible said the mark of the beast would be on the hand or forehead. Could it really be “in the hand.” Think about it. Your state government is selling you and your children out!
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Fuck any and all unconstitutional behavior and orders and kill ALL traiters IMMEDIATELY…I am an American NOT and dual citizenship Zionist Israeli/American pedophile.
March 22nd, 2008 at 9:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5iCUBEUx4
Thanks for watching
God Bless America
We must unite
or the dog gonna bite
March 23rd, 2008 at 9:09 am
time to secede. regardless what any state officials try to say, regardless what DC says.
March 23rd, 2008 at 8:18 pm
“If this [United States] were a dictatorship,
it would be a heck of a lot easier…
Just so long as I’m the dictator!”
George W. Bush, President-elect, December 18, 2000