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Church Organization Refuses To Divulge If Pastors Are On FEMA Payroll
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, February 2, 2009
A large church organization has refused to divulge how many of its pastors are on the FEMA payroll, after a member expressed concerns about religious leaders being used to condition their congregation to accept the declaration of martial law.
In a May 2006 story we first broke the shocking news that FEMA was training pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to “obey the government” in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm seizures, and forced relocation.
Despite debunkers and urban myth websites claiming the story was a hoax, it was confirmed in triplicate by mainstream news outlets over a year later.
A KSLA news report confirmed that Clergy Response Teams are being trained by the federal government to “quell dissent” and pacify citizens to obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.
Watch the clip below.
Concerned about such developments, a member of the California-based Worldwide Church of God, an organization that boasts 64,000 members in 860 congregations in about 90 countries, asked if any of the church’s pastors were involved in the FEMA program.
“The head office quickly replied hastily within an hour by telling me, “Sorry, that is privileged information”, the man states. “The reply was in big bold script like I’ve never seen before in emails. I was also a bit put off by the word “privileged.”
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“I responded to the stated email and reworded my request slightly by demanding, “are there ANY of our pastors on the payroll of FEMA , YES or NO.” Their first response came after about an hour. But, it has been almost 24 hours and I am still waiting for my church’s second response to my second request,” he adds.
It seems that church groups are reticent to let slip any information concerning the issue of pastors being trained to help manage a state of martial law following the controversy stirred up by the exposure of the program in 2006.
Indeed, the pastors that took a risk by first divulging the information to us were later threatened by Homeland Security and told to keep their mouths shut.
With new legislation in Congress pending that will mandate the set-up of a network of FEMA camp facilities to be used to house U.S. citizens in the event of a national emergency, along with the announcement that tens of thousands of active military personnel are to be placed inside the United States under Northcom, partly for purposes of dealing with “civil unrest” and “crowd control”, fears about a state of martial law being prepared are no longer the fantasies of paranoid conspiracy theorists, but an all too real possibility as we move towards the end of the first decade of the 21st century.
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February 2nd, 2009 at 8:37 am
We need to get this info. It must be exposed. I am frankly getting sick of all this deceit and lying. And I am sure I am not the only one.
Bob Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 am
Church is supposed to be one of the places where you should be able to find true honesty. Now….. looks like there will be nowhere to go soon.
Obzen Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 am
Church is one of the last places you can find true honesty
fub Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Aside from the hideous mispellings and ALL caps, you say nothing of substance that is not just tired old noise.
1. Not ALL religions are members of The National Council of Churches and even accept or contribute $$ to such an organization
2. Paganism is just a perversion of the original religion, Christianity
3. Just because you don’t believe in Jesus Christ is not proof that He does not exist or that His promise to return is untrue
4. No you don’t have a bridge to sell me because I do believe it, show me a title to said bridge and I’ll make an offer.
Nick Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
“CHIT FOR BRAINS”’s comments are the kind of historically-incompetent anti-Christian lunacy that led to Zeitgeist. Look up Dr. Chuck Baldwin: a true Christian patriot.
nobody Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
WELL you got the liberal childish name calling going again ,grow up
lutz Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
AMEIN and Amein
lutz Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
wrong my brother, it is full of lies and deception.. Only Yahshua is the way to salvation and
keeping of the Commandments as it says in Rev 14. Also Yahshua said ” If you love me
keep my commnadments”
The Shepherds are to coddle and take care of the sheep. You are your brother’s keeper.
kwc Reply:
February 10th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
That’s what they want you to believe. Don’t be so gullible. The Zeitgeist movie has been debunked time and again. If you want to hear the truth of it, go to sermonaudio.com and search for dr. scott a. johnson. When you get to his page, search for zeitgeist (or however you spell it) and listen to him.
Jesus Christ is not a pagan god. He is God, and your only salvation.
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February 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
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Patty Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Refuse to give them anymore ‘Tithe” until they fess up. No information—no money!!! If they want to be ran by the Government, then the Government can support them in their high dollar suits and mansions.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 am
This is simply ridiculous, the fuckin pastors are assholes.
Taking money to corrupt our peoples minds even more, along side the media
How can any of you people attending church even believe what most of them have to say?
This is so sad.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
All the sheep following liars and greedy bastards. They should be taken out and shot ( the so-called “leaders”). Do you know how many will follow them to their deaths? Un-fucking-believable. BAAAA BAAAAA. He leadth me besides still waters. Everything is unicorns and butterflies.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
The reversion of number of the Beast
http://mankindlastchance.wordp.....das-final/
Please read the article in full.
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 am
aMazed,
The Worldwide Church of God is ONE denomination of many. There are many of us who don’t recognize this denomination as being a part of the true Church. The Bible warnes us about these types of things in the end times. And your blanket statement about pastors is uncalled for. Not all pastors agree with or will go along with this. You should get educated before you shoot of your mouth!
SmartHippie Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Terry you say…..
“There are many of us who don’t recognize this denomination as being a part of the true Church.”
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Oh my, pardon us in our unwashed ignorance of the one and only “TRUE CHURCH”
Fer Chrisssakes man, stop and think about what you just wrote.
Are you a Muslim getting ready to strap on the old suicide vest?
Are you a Jew who fully supports bombing the families of Gaza into a bloody pile of rubble?
Or maybe you are a Christian who believes the ONLY way to prove your love for God is to handle rattle snakes and piss them off till they bite you?
Or maybe you are a Catholic (the way I was raised) who simply believes ALL Christian faiths are just a bit misguided and inferior to the Church of Rome?
You see Terry. The point is that all religions think THEY are the one church, the only church and it is that very belief that causes all the trouble.
All you need is some evil greedy prick with an agenda that requires a lot of people to raise hell, or fight, or vote, or support wars and war crimes………and voila, you silly sheep fall right in line as long as he praises YOUR God.
You true believers are the problem. You have always done more harm than good. And that is why the whole world is getting fed up with ALL religion.
PS I don’t give a flying fu*$k which religion you belong to. You are all the same.
Get your Gods out of my government!
Nick Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
“SmartHippie” = typical leftist theophobic slander, using the mistakes of some to condemn all. You need the Gospel: http://www.gty.org/Resources/Articles/A335
Jah Rastafari Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
yeah sure nick. but just what gospel does he need?
why is your particular brand of flying spaghetti monster in the sky better than the others?
if we got you and some devout jews and muslims together, which gospel would you suggest he read? you would argue about it, and not one of you would have any way of proving a damn thing.
true believers are a danger to themselves and to others.
nick, do you go to the same one true church as terry? i sure hope so, i would hate to see you guys get into an argument about religion.
illuminated-dj Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
wakey wakey terry,it’s not happening because its in the book of revelations,its happening cause we the sheeple sit back and let it happen.in the words of alex “will they kill untold millions like they did in the last century?” IIt’s not the elite cockroaches who determin that.IT’S US!
truthmonger Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:07 am
Terry Swope said:
“The Worldwide Church of God is ONE denomination of many. There are many of us who don’t recognize this denomination as being a part of the true Church.”
One member of one Christian sect/cult/denomination has asked if any of his pastors are trained by FEMA. And look at the ruckus. lol. What happens when members of all the other Christian sects and cults ask their pastors/priests/whatevers the same question.
I see that you are a member of the “true church”, have you asked your pastors yet?
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 am
This FEMA program brings a whole new meaning to Judas priest, now doesn’t it? Lambs lead to the slaughter by their good shepherds. You must pardon my warped humor, but this has to be proven and proven to everyone that will begin to listen. This is the worst case of bribery that should never have happened I’ve ever heard of anywhere.
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 am
This is what scares me most. When you bring in religion thats when you should worry. Religious people are the most obedient and their faith lets them beleive that god will intervein just like the jews during the holocaust. Religion is the most massive brainwashing in history. I worship my creator not those of flesh and bone and I dont beleive the stories that were written by men about a man(Jesus) who anyone that wrote about him never even met him. I know this will offend most of you but I truly beleive that you should come to peace with your creator and with yourself and dont be fooled by the stories written by men. Man has deceived scince the beggining of the speices and will continue to do so.
People that go to churches put all their hopes and dreams into the word of their pastors and trust in them and as soon as they are told to obey thats exactly what they will do. The government counts on this being very successful because of that reason. They will play on fear, panic, and religion to get their dirty work done because they know from years of data that is the quickest way to get results. This is disgusting and I hope all these pastors that can be bought get the ultimate judgment when their day comes, Which will be really soon if they go along with this plot to thin out the herd.
I do understand that the earth would be in much better shape without 80% of the population but if people would stop raping the earth it can house all of us without any problems. The fact that we use oil and the fact that we pollute at a chatostrophic level can all be changed. We have the greatest resources to make this a reality but fact is there is just too much money to be made off of destroying the earth so it will continue until we overthrow the system. We need to get rid of money Period. It will be the death of all of us. We should live with a system that takes care of all people. You do your part to better the society and you can have a home and food for your family. A sharing system is really the only way mankind will last.We are all equal but when you got a handful of people who control everything because they make all the money what is equal about that? We can all chip in and take care of eachother without having peices of paper with numbers on them and I garuntee you we would all be soo much happier. Imagine not having to worry if you can keep your house or feed your children. People lived like this for ages and it worked great.The earth gives us everything we need for free. Why do we have to buy what our creator put here for us so we could survive? People we can have this life but it will take ages to make this a reality but if we dont there will be no future for anyone. Its been proven over and over again that this system does not work when will we learn to change this and live free the way we are supposed to. But I love you all for fighting for the truth and never backing down just keep fighting for what you believe and you will live a honorable life and die an honorable death.
Bible Act I Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
OK, so you believe in ‘your creator’ right? Here is the deal, if it is not Jesus then it is Satan! If you believe Jesus was a mere man then you are destined for an eternal existance in hell.
I have posed this question in PP forum for months for the cretins of the Zeitgeist movement and no one has enought brain power to put a decent answer together, so I will try IW.
If God was dreamed up by the ‘elite’ to control us then why do they believe in it so much? The Grove is spoken of many times in the Old Test as is one of their gods, Molech. They, those who hated the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, burned their children to Molech in the OT and they do it now in the form of a mock sacrifice. Oh and by the way, they still hate the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but according to Zeitgeist they are fooled!
Obzen Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 pm
You got it all wrong. I dont beleive in Jesus. There are soo many religions and everybody thinks theirs is the right one. I say cut away all the fairy tales and just beleive in the creation and a creator. There is no proof that jesus ever existed. I didnt say the elite conjured up god but im merely saying its a possibility that they wrote the bible. Remember the people who wrote the new testament never met jesus. Its not hard to read the old testament and then write a new story that fullfils all the prophecies predicted in the old testament. The way I see it is no human can truley understand the workings of god. scince the beggining man has always wondered and feared what happens when we die and when people fear they will latch on to any fairy tale that will give them the false notion that they actually know whats going on. You saying that if I beleive in a creator and its not jesus then its satan, That is just the dumbest thing you have ever said. I dont beleive in jesus or satan. so what your telling me is if I dont think jesus is god then i worship the devil. That is the brainwashing that has been done to you from all these churches and child fuckers. No person in the world knows the truth about life and death and therefor noone can tell you anything about god that they can back up with proof.
ShastaPatriot Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:10 pm
“I worship my creator not those of flesh and bone and I dont beleive the stories that were written by men about a man(Jesus) who anyone that wrote about him never even met him.”
Really? The apostle Peter never Jesus? I contend that he did, and that he wrote at least two books of the New Testament.
You sir, comment from a position of ignorance, and your spelling stinks. But my Creator, the Lord Jesus, loves you anyway! I recommend you get to know him, because you will by no means enter the Kingdom of God without Him!
TheGhost Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
i dont remember a gospel named peter? lets see, mark, luke, mathew, and john.. hmmm no peter, wheres peter? if there is a gospel according to peter, it wasnt cannonized because it didnt depict jesus in the light that the early church liked, hence no gospel of peter…. one more win for the anti-religion crowd and a serious bitch slap to the ig’nant muthafuckas above
ShastaPatriot Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Read my post again and tell where I claim there is a gospel according to Peter? There are many books in the New Testament that come after the four gospels. One is called the First Epistle according to Peter or I Peter. There is also a II Peter. Oops, one loss for TheGhost.
Bible Act I Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
SPatriot,
While I am with you 100% you are up against dolts who think no one who wrote the Bible met Jesus. All of the four Gospels were written by His disciples whom He knew for years. Paul, who wrote almost 1/3 of the New Test., met the God of Creation on the road to Damascus. He was hit with the Light (1 Tim 6:16 Who alone has Iimmortality dwelling in Unapproachable Light) of the Creator, which Jesus His Son sits at the right hand of the Father.
But again SP, you have been given the Spirit. They have been given a third of fourth grade edjucation…maybe.
Not only can they not spell, the only word that comes to mind when confronted is ahh……..fu@k you man…..ha, that’l teach ‘em. Then they high five each other…then back to their house for who knows what.
TheGhost Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
not quite douchebag, first fallacy in your argument is that did jesus even exist? or peter? or any of the apostles? first you have to prove their existence before you can say that they did this or that, and writing something down and putting someone elses name on it happens all the time so dont try and use the document itself as proof.. next, not all books considered to be the new testament are accepted unanimously by all people of the christian faith, therefore you cant fully prove that peter ever wrote anything about jesus since not all christians accept the documents as real… SCORE ONE FOR THEGHOST!! bitch.. now, come back with something intelligent to say
Bible Act I Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 am
TGhost,
If I said anything ‘intelligent’ your two brain cells wouldn’t be able to process it, so I will dumb it down for you and your ‘buddies’.
Number one, I don’t ever rely on someone’s eye sight or paper documentation to prove anything. There are 100’s of fulfilled prophecies from the Word of God. This is all the proof I need. The Holy Spirit that indwells (sorry…lives inside) me is another proof that Jesus is who He and many others said is was and is.
So, did you see the civil war (sorry again for not dumbing it down for you, this was the war that America fought over ’slavery’)? No? This must mean you don’t believe in it, huh? I could go on but what is the point. It will take you a good hour to get through what I have written so far, that is if your ‘buddie’ is there to read this for you.
You are the epitome of a cretin and I am am not going to take the time to explain this one to you.
High Plains Drifter Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
Ghost: You are a truly ignorant individual! For you to claim that Jesus Christ never existed is beyond belief. Do YOU exist, ghost? How would you prove your existence? You sound like one of those *educated idiots* who argue that there’s no such thing as objective reality. Am I close to the mark? But there’s a parallel proof, here, which I’m attempting to demonstrate. I’m ANSWERING your writing, just as you are answering (in a blashpemous manner!) the writings of God’s Word! You know that God exists, ghost..there are too many “infallible proofs” for you to ignore!
We can prove things exist (or existed) in a variety of ways. Are you familiar with *archaeology*? How about *Epigraphy*? *History*? We can even use *science* to prove that God exists..did you know that? No..evidently, you didn’t know.
A couple of points: the term *gospel* simply means *glad tidings* (i.e., good news) from the Greek. Peter offered at least 2 *gospels* in the N.T., as such: I Peter and II Peter. Some suggest that Peter penned Hebrews, as well, but that cannot be established. So, ghostlet, your knowledge of Scripture is wanting.
Using your reasoning, I’m unable to establish that you exist; therefore, I’ll discount the validity of both your post and your argument. After all..it could have been a figment of our deluded imaginations. ha! You’re a real piece of work, ghost! You can’t spell *ghost* without, *GO*. Be gone, fool! Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado
Obzen Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Yeah science can prove god thats why 93% of scientist don’t beleive in god. And as far as history goes there are no documents at all when jesus was alive that say he even existed. according to the bible Jesus was a huge celebrity, the masses came together to worship him, If thats true dont you think the great historians would have mentioned him. And your defense is they didnt have the means to document this stuff back then, Bullshit ever hear of alexander the great or better yet Pilot who supposedly had jesus killed even though there is no roman record of a jesus being killed by pilot. No matter how you cut it there is no proof. You say we are close minded thats just backwards you refuse to listen to things thats say you are wrong.
Obzen Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
That is completley wrong. You need to do some research if your gonna worship something aat least know what your talking about. Jesus was dead before Peter was even born. I have done hours of research on this subject for many years. I used to be a christian but i stepped out of what I was taught and started thinking for myself and doing my own research and thats what I suggest everyone to do. Noone who wrote the bible never met jesus that is fact. Just because a document has lasted through ages does not make it true. Religion is man made but faith is a birthright follow your heart and soul not the words of others. Im sure you believe in all the nonscence like Jonah lived in a big fish for 3 days, and 2 of every animal went onto the ark and lived there for years and that people lived to be 900 years old. Any person with a little education woud laugh at those things if they werent brainwashed. Its just like how people laugh at scientology beliefs now but that is those peoples religion and they believe in the fairy tales because they make good stories. These scriptures are mereley entertainment for the masses of brainless sheep
Bible Act I Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 am
Obzen,
You need to get your money back from whomever you ’studied’ under for your ‘hours’ of research (wow, I had no idea I was dealing with such a learned person).
Out of the four Gospels in the New Test. there are two who were disciples of Jesus and spent years with Him!
Matthew, a tax collector for the Roman Government was a disciple of Jesus. He spent years with Him.
John, quoted as the “Disciple whom Jesus loved” also spent many years with Jesus.
Just to give you two examples of those who knew Jesus and wrote the Scripture.
FYI You never were a Christian! You could be if you gave up your pride, humbled yourself before an Almighty God and asked Him for forgiveness. Just like the theif on the cross next to my Lord. He said “Lord, remember me when You come into Your Kingdom.” Jesus said, “Today you will be with Me in paradise.”
Wow, what a glorious day.
The odd thing about this conversation is, you hate God and so do the NWO. So I must ask you, why are you on a site such as this? You serve the same god, Satan…you have a lot more in common than you think! Why not join up with them while you can?
Psycada Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 am
Bible Act 1;
Stop…just stop it…you’re going to hurt your wee little brain. basically, what you said in the last paragraph is what Bush said to American’s about the Iraq war, “You’re either with us, or a terrorist…”
You also don’t seem to get the point, even though the gospels have a persons name, it in no way proves they wrote it. I just wrote a book too, but I put Santa’s name on it. In a thousand years, your dumb ass ancestors will actually believed a guy named Santa wrote my book. Given enough time, anything is believable.
High Plains Drifter Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
Chit: Your Bible knowledge is practically non-existent! Please stick to what you know..whatever that might be. Let me try to educate you a bit, if I can. First, it’s *pathetic*..and this site doesn’t change misspellings..it posts stupidity as it’s written. You have to ‘police’ your own mistakes and correct them; mommy isn’t here to do it for thee.
Jesus called God His Father–that’s very true. Congrats! You got something right. Here’s where the education comes in. Jesus is part of a *Trinitarian* Godhead ; i.e., there are 3 distinctive *expressions* of ONE God. It makes sense. God is a Spirit. Jesus is God, the express Image of God who is Spirit. God created a physical Image and indwelt said Image, in order to *reach down* (condescend) to mankind. It made God more easy for men to apprehend and accept (ref. Romans 8:29 ; Colossians 1:15 ; Hebrews 1:3).
I’d urge you to go and READ the Bible..and not as a biased atheist but, rather, as an objective investigator who seeks to know the Truth. Jesus Christ is GOD in the flesh (Immanu-El — Heb. *God with us*). He’s the focal point of human history; NOT Buddha, Crishna, the great spirit god, et al. Look to it! Semper Fi, Chris in Colorado
lutz Reply:
February 5th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
When you refer to this comment about Yeshua referring to himself in a different aspect.
Think of this: An Egg—An egg is made up of 3 parts — There is shell, Yolk, and the white but
it is still an egg, right? Same with YAHWEH (baruch Hu) blessed is he!
3 parts but still one. That is a good way to compare the three into one. There is NO TRINITY and
it is Pagan to think differently.
Bless you,
Deb
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 am
The prophet Jerimiah called the pastors “dumb dogs” for thier refusal to bark when danger aproaches. which leads me to wonder if D.D really stands for doctorate of divinity? he also spoke of great punishment for the watcher on the wall who doesnt warn the people of an approaching army. I havnt attended church in a long time, because i cant stand the wet noodle hand shakes and phony soft voices of watered down deluded pastors and church elders.
roaddog Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
There’s only been one true prophet in all of history and his name is Edgar Casey. He didn’t talk in riddles or make money form what he saw. He didn’ try to brainwash or controll anybody who would listen. He said what he saw and saw what he said.
TheGhost Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
i always hated the part where they make you stand up and shake everyones hand EEEEWWWWWWWWWW some of those people are fuckin freaky lookin, no wonder their at church right! thank god my moms stopped forcing me to go.. get it thank god HAHAHAHA, yep yep that was rich
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 am
We have been lied to by all agencies, what makes you think the churches are any different. They are one of the major mind control agents of the New World, as Jordan Maxwell says: “Religion is at the very bottom of the dirt”. That is also my view, they will be the first to lie to you, don’t be deluded by their bullshit, for thats all they are, in my view.
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 am
Look, even the bible states that we must fight the powers of darkness. This info needs to be released!
I am not a religious person but I do believe in God, etc. I found this quote, of many stating that we must fight!
“Have nothhing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them.” Ephesians 5:11
This site is doing just that, as am I!
Keep on keeping on Info Warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace on our terms. NOT THEIRS!
In Liberty,
Matrixxx123456789
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
I’ve been around for awhile now (longer than I care to actually admit), and have come to realize that NO man should follow BLINDLY the instruction, leading, and teaching of any church pastor…and I don’t care how esteemed or well-regarded the pastor may be. When it comes down to it, any church attending man should know that he himself is ultimately responsible for discerning the climate of the times, right from wrong, good from evil, etc. and in doing so…act accordingly upon the conviction that he feels.
I’m afraid that what’s happened over the past 30 years (or perhaps longer) is that people have become too afraid and/or too weak to make their own judgments regarding Biblical theology, apologetics, etc. because of the “sheep” affect…meaning it’s alot safer to just follow along and be one of the herd. Yes, pastor’s are supposed to be the “shepherds” of their flocks but NO pastor is infallible and NO pastor has a direct hot-line to God in which he’s given the blue-print as to EXACTLY how things are and/or should be.
Unfortunately, some pastor’s would like to think they do and speak as though they’re without flaw, and getting into alliances with the government to control their congregation’s thoughts and actions is proof of that…with these pastor’s too often selling their souls (more or less) in exchange for safety and protection from future governmental threats and such.
MsMadame Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Wow!
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Satan comes as an angel of light, able to deceive even the elect, how better to do this then to rule over Churches and congregation’s.
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
What part of the constitution (or BOR) is the separation of church and state in bozo?
You have been blindly led into believing a myth cpu. Believe only what is true, not what is told to you by those who wish to control you.
The Bible is the only Infalable, Inspired Book.
Sid Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
“The Bible is the only Infalable, Inspired Book”, Indeed thats true. Sadly mans interpretation of said book is less reliable. Just look at the pathetic Dogma of the trinity of evidence that man will believe any deciet.
The trinity comes out of pagan beliefs yet plenty falsely cling to this dogma as truth. Just one of many though isnt it, so who really has truth? or is it the truth that best fits there terms.
Then theres the reliance on biblical translations over the ages. you got the king james Hoax bible, ie the edited version of gods word from the Geneva bible, so again what truth?
if a faith i went too was cooperating with goverment bodies as to be apart of the system, then at that point i may question if im in the one faith. Looks like people who have been putting faith in pasters/preachers /elders rather than god are about to be thrown to the slaughter for there blind faith. Sad, the bible warns that there would be those that would mislead many.
The last days indeed.
Bible Act I Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 am
“Sad, the bible warns that there would be those that would mislead many”
According to your post, how do you believe this to be true? You state translations, edits and hoaxes. What exactly do you believe.
I believe the Bible to be God’s Word. I also believe this God is powerful enough to not have His Book messed with without His ‘permission’.
What kind of god do you believe in if he is not powerful enough to stop a translation error?
Psycada Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 am
You again dumbo? I bet you have been tricked into believing the founding father’s were Christian and wanted a Christian nation.
Yeah, you do don’t you. You Christie’s will believe anything as long as it supports you’re views, but quickly conjure up manmade crap to debunk truth’s that disprove your views or support other views. Go ahead an believe your book is right, but if you do, kindly remember that only he who has no sin can cast the first stone.
I don’t believe in the “Good Book”, being more than Basic. Instructions. Before. Life. Ends. and fairytales. Eat my rocks…..
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pm
If I catch any pastors going along with this then I will take them out back and ensure they will not do it again!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Read this blog about a pastor who helps FEMA and the New World Order..
theoriginalmanbook.blogspot.com
The Protocols of Zion says there is nothing more dangerous than personal initiative allied to genius.
Now is the time to show that personal initiative and ally it to genius! You can do it! You can make the difference!
OMG the k k k is back 897 Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
you really ought to get some psychological help!
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/intro.html
Anti-Talmud accusations have a long history dating back to the 13th century when the associates of the Inquisition attempted to defame Jews and their religion [see Yitzchak Baer, A History of Jews in Christian Spain, vol. I pp. 150-185]. The early material compiled by hateful preachers like Raymond Martini and Nicholas Donin remain the basis of all subsequent accusations against the Talmud. Some are true, most are false and based on quotations taken out of context, and some are total fabrications [see Baer, ch. 4 f. 54, 82 that it has been proven that Raymond Martini forged quotations]. On the internet today we can find many of these old accusations being rehashed and this site is an attempt to correct the mistakes and put the true quotes into their proper perspective.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
The whole thing is an over inflated joke. There is what many call the greatest story ever told (The Bible)
It is what it is, a story. How can anyone put their faith into something that has been changed and has so many different versions?
Has anyone ever taken the stance that they should not pull all of their eggs in one basket i.e. faith in one man (such as Jesus or Obama)???
People here and around the world need to think for themselves. They need to believe in the truth that only they can commit or omit.
Due to the fact that people are totally programmed via the TV, newspaper or word of mouth, we are (well most) taught that we MUST believe in a higher power, therefore we MUST believe that the government is that higher power. Even though the founding fathers based the Constitution on the word of god, they had the knowledge that it was up to the people of high moral character to uphold the rule of law given to us via the Constitution.
People need to turn the TV off! They need to pick up good quality reading materials and open up the porthole in their own minds to make good, solid moral decisions. If they fail to do so and count souly on the word of one man albeit, Jesus, God or Obama, they are doomed to live a life of fear and solitude.
The only way to freedom is to break away from what you have been taught as “The Way”!
Once you have figured this out and know that you and only you can shape your future, carve out your own destiny, you will then find the true path. Until this is done, you will always be fighting an untouchable foe and you are destined to lose that fight!
Nick Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Textual criticism shows us that the New Testament we have today is more than 99% perfectly matched to the originals, and of the remant less than 1%, the majority of it is things like spelling and grammar variances, and not ONCE is ANY essential doctrine affected. The Bible we have today is reliably what it was when it was written.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I used to be a part of the physical Worldwide Church of God (until about 9 years ago).
They are very secretive, and while changing most of their Armstrong doctrines (rather clandestinely), they keep their members in the dark about what’s really going on (still).
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of their pastors (and pastors from other churches) are on the FEMA payroll.
Ministers in the WCG don’t like to be questioned about things. All the orders come from the very top – Joseph W. Tkach (sucessor to his dad, Joseph Tkach and Herbert W. Armstrong).
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I never did and never will ever trust the church and clergy alike!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Churches were infiltrated long ago…… the most damage they did was in spreading the new idea that the Zionists are the chosen people and Israel is to be blessed under all circumstances.
The real truth is the exact opposite and the doctrine which was taught in Churches up until WW2 is very different than the indoctrination nowadays. Martin Luther, the great Protestant reformer from 600 years ago openly taught that the Jews were a branch completely cut off from all promises due to their rebellion and eternal curse.
After the Holocaust, Christian doctrine did a 180 degree turn………… so the Church being used to usher in the NWO is just the final kiss on a long term romance.
OMG the k k k is BACK again Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
please see this site
http://www.inthenameofallah.org
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pm
The Zionists control both extremes of every opinion or issue. They control the radical right and they control the radical left OF EVERY GROUP OR THEOLOGY. By controlling these two sides with their hands they can easily sandwich the masses in the middle and guide them in the direction that they want. Watch out for the religious class in America……. MOST are so brainwashed about Israel that they will overlook 9/11 because they HAVE TO bless the one who murdered our fellow citizens.
“In every country and in every age the priest has been hostile to liberty; he is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.” – Thomas Jefferson
peace be upon the World Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
http://www.terrorismawareness......-happened/
and also
There is not a single Arab in the State of Israel or in the territory of the Land of Israel who does not have an Arab homeland (and for that reason you are “Arabs”).
You invaded/trickled into/infiltrated the Land of Israel with the protection, encouragement and support of the Ottoman occupier and of the British occupier, but you did not therefore become owners or sovereigns.
Open a world map, Arab from Israel. You will find that the area of the Arab countries (22) is bigger than that of the continent of Europe; and that the area of all the Muslim countries (56) covers one-third of the globe. An indescribably massive territory; oil resources and unfathomable wealth.
So, on the face of it, it seems really okay that the Jewish people has one teeny-tiny state of its own, without having to divide it with another Muslim Arab people. No?
And let me tell you a few things about the Palestinian “people”. You are not a people. You are a Muslim fiction with one single purpose – to conquer the Land of Israel.
Let’s begin with your name. The Romans conquered Israel and called it, in an act of occupation, Provincia Palaestina – named after the Philistines who settled the Israeli coastal cities. The Philistines were red-haired seafarers who arrived at Israel’s shores from Europe and disappeared from our region about 1,600 years before Muhammad was born.
The Arabs, who originate from the Arabian Peninsula, have no connection whatsoever to the Philistines – not genetically, not religiously, not culturally, not historically and not geographically. You are Arabs and not Philistines. By the same token, the Romans could have called Israel Provincia Schweizaria. Would that have made you Swiss?
And as for the Land of Israel, Samer from Haifa, choose any historical record, any historical map, any historian recognized by the international academic community that will show us where Palestine is; when there was ever in human history a state or land called “Palestine; when there was ever in human history a nation called “the Palestinian people”. Who are you? Where did you come from? And what is your connection to the territories of the Land of Israel? You are unable to find one single detail anywhere in the world, including among Arab and Muslim researchers (including the Koran, in which the Land of Israel is called “the land of the people of Israel”), that supports your claims.
There are British records from the period of the British Mandate, Turkish records from the Ottoman period, records of all the occupations that have taken over the Land of Israel – there is no mention of a Palestinian people or a Palestinian State.
And so, let us agree that if you find any record at all (that is not part of the Palestinian propaganda that retroactively alters historical facts) of your national existence and presence in the Land of Israel, we will then have something to start with.
You are an incidental collection of factions and factionalism from around the Muslim world that hate each other almost… almost as much as you hate us. That is, in effect, the only thing that unites you – hatred for the Zionists. That is the most pathetic basis upon which to establish a people!
In 1948 the number of Arabs in the Land of Israel was equal to the number of Jews in Arab lands. The 20th Century was a century of migration and population exchange across the entire globe. All the Jews of Arab lands migrated to their homeland Israel; all the Arabs from Israel were supposed to migrate back to their Arab homelands.
Not only did you not do so, you continued to infiltrate and penetrate into the territory of Israel in every clever way possibly imaginable. And the feeble policy of the State of Israel made it possible for you.
In practice, you currently have a Palestinian State, which is Jordan. But you want three Palestines for yourselves: Jordan; “New Palestine” to be established in Gaza and the West Bank; and, of course, the Israeli Arabs who see themselves as Palestinians will continue to live in Israel and bring more and more Palestinian “brothers” to them from around the world. Thus, in another decade or two the Jews will be a minority in their land and Israel too will become Palestine. That’s not for us.
Therefore, this is what will ultimately happen, even if our Left is spreading delusions that fill your hearts with great hope: you will have to return to your homeland. It will happen peacefully or by the sword.
Over the years (with the Zionist settlement), you have adopted for yourselves the Jewish ethos. That is, the holiness of Jerusalem and the return to Zion. You may have built a mosque in the center of the Jewish Holy of Holies (a popular Muslim tradition worldwide), but your holy city is Mecca, not Jerusalem, and you have a “right of return” only to your Arab homeland, not to Zion.
In conclusion, I recommend to you a likable book filled with humor. It’s called Innocents Abroad, written by an author named Samuel Clemens (known by his nickname Mark Twain). In 1867, he traveled the length and breadth of Israe. He saw here no Palestinians, no verdant orchards, no Arab villages and no teeming cities. Nothing. He saw, and described, neglect, swamps, cholera, malaria, sand. “A mournful expanse” is how he described the Land of Israel. Everything here in this Garden of Eden called Israel was built by Jewish genius. It is no surprise that you and your brethren covet it!
And if you are sitting in your house connected to electricity and typing a reply on a computer, that is because the Zionists organized a state here that allows you a standard of living that is completely different from that of 99% of your sisters in the Arab states.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Our country was lost a long time ago. Ron Paul was our last hope. The Zionists got us into two world wars deceptively and then Korea, Viet Nam and now the Middle East. Our media continually lies to us. Our courts pervert justice. Our children are indoctrinated into homosexuality and perversion. And many of our pastors are bought off by the enemies of truth. Fortunately, there is one place where the lovers of truth can turn and that is to the Lord, Jesus Christ. He is still alive and bidding you to come to His marriage supper. Just remember to be wearing a wedding garment!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Fake Ashkenazi Khazar Jews from Europe are building Israel in preparation of the arrival of their False Messiah aka Antichrist. They are the synagogue of Satan and these deceivers who come as “angels of light” have fooled most all of Christiandom. No wonder they got away with murder on 9/11. Zionist Christians nearly worship the Zionists who orchestrated the murder of 3,000+ innocent people.
Cannot Belive My Eyes Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:21 pm
you are spreading hate lies
Khazar myth great article for those who are in need of some truth like you!
http://www.jewishpress.com/pri.....ntid=21499
dagon the fish god Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 am
who stole my pork ?
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
what the fuck!? i posted a comment, it showed up so everyone could read it, i go to the home page and go back into the same article and its gone, this is some ol’ bullshit!
joe Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
dude, refresh your browser dillweed
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
This is simple, those churches that refuse transparency, have something to hide.
None of this should be any surprise.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
The Pastors first obligation and duty is to his congregation and witholding this sort of information is an unforgiveable breach of trust.
They should tell their congregation if they are or are not involved in this program. Those members can then decide for themselves if that pastor is fit to fulfill his obligations before God.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Try, This one and others
American Red Cross, DOD, Receives payments from them
and so dose the Salvation Army, and There are multi payment to them every month for 10.000 each from different districks in the US,
Type in dod and keep seaching it will come up and the months the pais and to what city and state
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
ROMANS 9, DOES NOT, repeat, DOES NOT, teach submission to ungodly authority. It was not interpreted this way by the founding fathers, an more importantly, was not interpreted that way by 1st Century Christians. INFOWARS.COM should sell TED R WEILAND’s book “Christian Duty Under Corrupt Government”. Visit http://www.missiontoisrael.org to order the book, and get it into your churches pastors hands! As well, see the Constitution vs Biblical Law book and series to complement this. Show this to your pastors and let them know that they are not being good Christians by submitting to ungodly authority!
Ex-Believer, Critical Thinker Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Christianity is a man made religion using a man made book full of errors and outright lies.
Bible proof: John 14: 12-14 (three verses three lies) No Christian in recorded history has ever done greater works than Jesus. No Christian in modern times have come close to doing, “greater works than Jesus“. No TWO Christians, in agreement, can ask God/Jesus for anything and expect to receive it. (Try asking for Satan’s instant destruction)
10,000-30,000 denominations (depending on who’s counting)
Whose Jesus do you believe in?
The upper echelons (leaders) of Christianity are the only ones being blessed. And they are being blessed not by a God but, by the foolish/blind sheep.
Kingdom Light Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
ExBCT,
Perhaps Jesus meant ‘greater’ to mean greater in quantity not in quality, for sea walking, food duplication, dead rising is hard to beat……but if Christians followed His example like He asked and said we could, then we all would be serving as he exampled, doing miracles and healings like He did thus confirming his message with proof.
If we all walked/lived as possible then greater works result. This is happening globally and is increasing though you see it little in your country….yet
…it’s coming…Revival.
I personally have been intimately involved with/by God’s compassion where faith in his blood resulted in acts that defy science and medicine.
ExBCT, in many ways I understand your position, for the Church overall is a sore representation of the reality and power of the Person and Work of Jesus Christ.
‘Yes we Can’ in Him, not Obama, but Jesus Christ.
Kingdom Light Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
xBCT,
Perhaps Jesus meant ‘greater’ to mean greater in quantity not in quality, for sea walking, food duplication, dead rising is hard to beat……but if Christians followed His example like He asked and said we could, then we all would be serving as he exampled, doing miracles and healings like He did thus confirming his message with proof.
If we all walked/lived as possible then greater works result. This is happening globally and is increasing though you see it little in your country….yet
…it’s coming…Revival.
I personally have been intimately involved with/by God’s compassion where faith in his blood resulted in acts that defy science and medicine.
ExBCT, in many ways I understand your position, for the Church overall is a sore representation of the reality and power of the Person and Work of Jesus Christ.
‘Yes we Can’ in Him, not Obama, but Jesus Christ.
Ex-Believer, Critical Thinker Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 am
Jesus is only a myth made up from previous myths.
Study the evolution of the bible!
Your faith rest on a man made book, not a book that a God produced.
So in reality, your faith rest on all the thousands of evil men, who worked on the various Bibles during the last 2000 years or more.
Nick Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
This interview is also a great resource on Romans 13: http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.co.....Dixon.html
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Wake up people! The Christian religion has always had a cozy relationship with government. Research it! The roots of Christian faith & Bible all stem from Rome and The Roman Catholic Church and together they have propagated war, Imperialism, inquisitions, suppression of knowledge, burning of books, etc…
This is not to say that any low level Pastors have clue what is going on, but I bet money ones high up in the organizations do have some clue!
Ask yourself one question. Why have churches remained tax exempt if they were not expected to do the governments bidding in policy or propaganda?
But what does that say when people blindly follow any religion without understanding its roots and its history?
Apocalypse definition:
Apocalypse (Greek: Ἀποκάλυψις Apokálypsis; “lifting of the veil”) is a term applied to the disclosure to certain privileged persons of something hidden from the majority of humankind.
Sound like the Truth Movement?
Nick Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I don’t think you’ve ‘researched it’ all that much, because the early church was not Roman Catholic. One can hardly consider the early followers of Christ being murdered as a ‘cozy’ relationship to government. See chapter I at http://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/home.html
Bible Act I Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 am
Catholicism HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BIBLE!
Satan’s greatest triumph is Catholic doctrine. His second is homosexuality.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
This is so sad. The truth is that the protestant church is fundamentally no different than the catholic church and we know that the catholic church has been involved in political corruption for over a thousand years. I was in seminary for over 3 years and I dropped out because I felt that all they were doing was preparing another professional class like attorneys or accountants to “properly handle the Word of God”.
The truth is you have only 1 teacher, 1 rabbi, 1 master, the Holy Spirit. Those who approach the Holy Spirit in prayer in humility asking for understanding will receive infinitely more understanding from scripture than from someone elevated 4 feet above them on a podium dressed like and sounding like a professional or a rock star.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I am currently a seminarian and candidate for ministry with a mainline denomination. As part of my training I have to do field education at a congregation for 12 hours a week and I am considered to be part of the Ministry Leadership Team for the congregation. As part of being on the MLT I have been copied on a lot of correspondence that has lead me to two conclutions on this topic, first that it is true and second that most pastors and congregations do NOT know what they are getting into.
This year our pastor was invited to a free workshop sponsored by the American Red Cross on emergency preparedness. While there they “shmoozed” him and the other clergy present about how their involvement in emergency preparedness planning is important and a great way to engage in outreach and help the wider community. Sounds Good! Well of course he is invited to another workshop and some lunch meetings, (in seminary you learn quickly to never pass up free lunches) well next thing you know he’s talking about this Government program called VOAD (Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster) which is a project of Citizen Corps. Is he getting paid? no, did he drink the kool-aid? yes! So, now during an evacuation of our city our church will be used as a staging area for people being evacuated due to our close proximity to the train and bus depot and the Red Cross hq and National Guard armory.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I am starting a church locally. Unlike all the others in the area, it will not be a corporate partner to the government (501c3). It will be relatively disorganized, as that makes it more difficult to be targeted. When it gets too large to remain disorganized, we will split into two churches to keep our mobility. This is how communities of real Christians will have to be soon, as the corporate church has sold out to evil.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Alex jones does not know anything about pagans and is a bisexual o phobe who hates video games and movies like final fantasy
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pm
alex jones does not know a damn thing about pagans, Paganism is not witchcraft, witchcraft is bullshit and wicca is not at all what you believe it to be
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:53 pm
want the real truth?? check out this website.
http://www.watchmanscry.com/
peace be upon the World Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
see below, it is very interesting
http://www.terrorismawareness......-happened/
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
You know, you have to ask yourself:
Separation of Church and State means what? Why was the formed and created – for what reason?
The Second Amendment – Right to own and bear arms was formed and created for what reason? What were the intentions in giving American’s that right? What was that amendment meant to protect and for what reason would American’s need to own a gun? To protect us from who?
Even if 80-90% of what Alex has been saying is true – do you really want to give up your guns or trust a church that advises you to kneel down before foreign military who will be forcing you to give up all your rights and protection?
I think not
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
http://video.google.com/videop.....7785460265
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Don’t worry folks. According to Ezekiel, Amos, some details in Revelation, and about half of the Bible and several other ancient texts, we will be destroyed on 10-10-09, the day of the next false-flag. The Bible and Russia both say this will be a nuke, probably the one the neocons stole in 07. When you quit believing the lies of the churches and actually read it, you will find that it calls this land Zion and describes our country, people, and political situation perfectly. No other country comes close. It says we are the children of Israel and dont know who we are. It talks about those who stir up strife in all nations and call themselves jews but are not jews. It describes the war as a full nuclear assault, from sea to sea, with an invasion of 200 million. Coincidentally, Russia has been telling us they would nuke us for the past year and a half over Iran. They have also put the hardware in place to do it. It describes an ancient and mighty nation coming against us which reminded me of when China snuck a sub in the middle of a US naval group doing maneuvers–completely undetected, and the time they moved massive troops into Russia, and the time they secretly closed all air flights in southern and eastern China, and the time they refused US ships entry to Hong Kong port for no reason. Revelation speaks of a 10 horned beast and the SCO has six members and four observers. That mark of the beast where no man can buy or sell without it reminds me of recently when Russia announced setting up a world financial capital in Moscow.
These ancient texts accurately describe all the things that would happen if we had a 10th planet that passes close to us every 3600 years. The great earthquakes, great rain of fire and brimstone (Yellowstone), burning mountain cast in the sea, stars of heaven flung to earth (comets), sign in the heavens (Nibiru), and sun will scorch man (magnetic field collapse happening now). Amazingly, this would explain all the news articles about another planet since 1983 and the trillions the governments of earth have spent on infrared telescopes, deep underground military bases, and doomsday vaults. There exists much evidence of quick, civilization-destroying cataclysms that have happened every 3600 years. The last one was 3597 years ago. The Bible says this event will end the war on us but by then there will only be 10% of us left and many will be captive across the Earth. God will not come back to rescue us until about 70 years after the war. This is the event that no one knows the day. The date of the war is stated in Ezekiel 24:1-2 and he was not referring to a past event because the first chapter describes military jets. For those of you who believe in the rapture, read Amos 5:18.
This is the bigger picture that even Alex isnt talking about.
von Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:31 am
The ancient writings of Sumeria may be of interest to you. Sumeria existed long before Judea, Christianity, Islam and Abram. The writings exist. This is fact. They were written thousands of years before a torah, bible and quran. The writings are on many ancient ‘artifacts’ but the most common artifact was clay tablets that were fired in ovens.
What you describe is exacly what the ancient Sunerians described originally; in that a planet comes thru our solar system roughly every 3600 years and yes….the changes have begun in the magnetic fields (polarity).
I dont believe in the quran or the bible thru and thru personally. Both books are similar in many many ways, as is the torah in regards to the bible’s old testament but, for me, there are points of interest. I dont believe all peoples of ancient societies to be fools or backwards. In many ways they seem to be more focused and even wiser than those of us in this technological ‘civilization’. They certainly knew their stuff when it came to galactic events and charting the heavens.
The bible too talks of ’sons of gods’ and an interesting event that took place between Abram and 3 godlike persons. During this meeting 2 ended up departing and left for Gamorah ( I believe it was Gamorah if Im recalling correctly ) and one stayed behind with Abram for a while. Most know the story of what then happened to Gamorah; as the story goes.
von Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 am
Steve. I fergot this. G**GLE SKY certainly seems to be blocking out a certain set of co-ordinates. You can go to my little blogspot http://ithaca-is.blogspot.com/ and click on “What Are They Hiding From Us”. Dont worry, I have no ads trying to sell anything.
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
I strongly recommend reading the 17th Protocol from the “Learned Elders of Zion” regarding infiltration of the church
OMG the k k k is back Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pm
I strongly recommend you never post again until you go here:
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/intro.html
Anti-Talmud accusations have a long history dating back to the 13th century when the associates of the Inquisition attempted to defame Jews and their religion [see Yitzchak Baer, A History of Jews in Christian Spain, vol. I pp. 150-185]. The early material compiled by hateful preachers like Raymond Martini and Nicholas Donin remain the basis of all subsequent accusations against the Talmud. Some are true, most are false and based on quotations taken out of context, and some are total fabrications [see Baer, ch. 4 f. 54, 82 that it has been proven that Raymond Martini forged quotations]. On the internet today we can find many of these old accusations being rehashed and this site is an attempt to correct the mistakes and put the true quotes into their proper perspective.
PICOSM Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Jesus said to the Jews:
“Ye are of your father the devil, and a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
St. John, 8:44 — The Bible, King James Version
So OMG, since we can not trust a word you say, I suggest that you go kibbutz with your “master” Satan like a good Jew and never post again. Why don’t you spend the rest of your days contemplating how much you are going to enjoy roasting in Hell for all eternity?
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
It mentions in the above article that “tens of thousands” of military personnel will be deployed to quell civil unrest and protests. There are nowhere near enough police/military to stop 300,000,000+ angry citizens, so I think fear of them is unwarranted. I think 300,000,000+ to “tens of thousands” are pretty damn good odds in OUR favor. We need to STOP being so fearful.
Ben Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
You aptly see the overall situation and the proportions of things in order to judge them. Not all 307 million American are able to fight; the youngest and oldest can’t, but 150 million gun owners armed with 300 million guns and their knowledge of the Constitution are a gigantic force, one of the mightiest blocking the New World Order’s path. Even with one million soldiers, three million gestapo agents, another million cops and half a mil foreign troops, they are vastly outnumbered and outgunned. And outsmarted, because only morons engage in evil.
Pack a gun and pay no taxes.
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
There is a president that speaks of ‘Yes We Can’
This is a good saying to adopt.
Pastors, teachers, prophets, pioneers need to act now, and if not they will not then the Holy Spirit will directly mobilize the people to rise and organize ——-no guns needed though I live in a country where every citizen and resident alien is free to own and carry a weapon practically anywhere and it must be concealed and the police for year integrate with military carrying machine guns (no tazers, good people they are) with random checkpoints but old style sort of old west justice still prevails——– in new directions that demonstrate unity, independance, ultimate service to God and neighbor by reverting to the example in the Bible Act 2-4.
I was browsing ‘Christian communities’ and found an interesting example that churches NEED to follow/create their own unique realites, uniting in every town city and state. You are behind schedule Church in America. Wake up. Wisdom will follow this example. Here it is: http://www.pacificalive.com
JewAgainstZionism Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Sounds nice… but watch out not to go down the road of Jonestown or something like that. Religion belongs in the heart, not in the community, if you know what I mean. Religious civilizations are most often tyrannical, while free civilizations with religious people in them are usually a lot better off.
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:33 pm
When are the religious ninny’s who usually quote silly statements from the bible going to side with the government and tell us to “render unto caeser what is caesar’s”?
Grow up,there is no tooth fairy,Mary(mother of Jesus)had an affair with a hunky Roman soldier and Joseph bought it-that is what most likely took place.
Drop your superstitious bibles,grab a gun and join the rest of us here in reality trying to resist this approaching tyranny.
JewAgainstZionism Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 pm
I wonder what Roman Scribe wrote that one haha.
Funny, since Yeshua (Joshua-and not this greek Jesus guy) was a revolutionary against the Roman empires tyrannical occupation. It’s more likely that he was crucified as an enemy of the state to make an example of him (the Pharisees were VERY corrupt and “in bed with” the romans… much like our FEMA pastors today). The “elites” always praise as heroes that people that they kill. MLK day, the JFK medal of courage, and so on.
The funny thing is, Yeshua (Jesus) would have been run out of town and denounced as a heretic by 95% of modern Christians. imagine how many “scandals” he would have been a part of during Pat Robertson’s daily propaganda broadcasts.
“This just in! The Christian News Network has just become aware that Jesus, found in the company of prostitutes, and pagans, using topical hallucinogens, and going on terrorist rampages against the bankers in his church, is calling his good righteous Brethren hypocrites. Is this really a man who should be leading our children? We have the Reverend Jerry Falwell with the answer!”
“No Pat, this man is of the Devil. He was born out of wedlock, constantly bucks the authority of this Christian nation. We should round ‘im up and blow him away, in the name of the Lord, just like all the enemies of George W Bush. Back to you Pat, with the Christ centered weather forecast”.
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Shame on you Churh of God and all other denominations for being so blind as to what is behind the FEMA camps and martial law. The great falling away spoken of in the New Testament (2nd Thessalonians 2) is what you are part of. SHAME ON YOU–ALL OF YOU!!!!! Billy Graham wake up–you are leading the people into slavery. SHAME ON YOU for cooperating with sheer evil–all of you wake up.
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Jesus had Judas Iscariot, we have the Dept. of Homeland stupidity clergymen and women.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Old world order follows the books of religion: The Christian Bible, The Koran etc
New world order follows the books of recent times:
1984. Brave New World. etc.
Who is winning, eh?
JewAgainstZionism Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 pm
the New World Order, is just a return to the ruling structures of the past.
“They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers… call this a New Order. It is not new, and it is not order” – Franklin D Roosevelt, written in stone at the FDR memorial.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pm
i have no problem with jesus but man do i hate churches and ministers
Francis Marion Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:48 pm
You’re in good company, Ol’ Hickory.
There can be a large city with a hundred churches
and you might find ONE where you get good
teaching about the TRUE Jesus.
I could write volumes on this subject having been
in the Christian Church all my life, but it’s simply
a matter of ministers being 99% hirelings and
1% true followers of Jesus.
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Who Rev. Wright LOL
JewAgainstZionism Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Reverend Wright actually preached against Eugenics and elite oppression, so I doubt it. I don’t know if he was particularly aware of the bigger picture or what, but he talked against the sort of things we all know to be part of the NWO plan often, which is why he was so “controversial” He was removed/defamed for a reason.
I’m actually confused that he was the pastor of a church that churned out Barry Saetoro. It’s a bit odd that he would be a member of a church that angrily denounces the plan of his cronies. Maybe he was keeping an eye on the Rev. to make sure he didn’t say too much.
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Yes but they control the airwaves and the Media, how are you going to know what is going on even in the next town, they could be broadcasting old News footage, we need to sort that problem out because they will take the country Piece by piece and we will not have any idea until it is our turn.
This one must be solved, how do we do it.
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Refusal to comment = Admission of guilt.
Churches are CRAWLING with Feds, informants, and FEMA agents. I won’t disclose the faith, but in the church I attended for years, we we’re constantly taught that WHEN martial law comes, we were to go limp and allow them to take us to the camps with no resistance. We were taught to let them split up of family and wait on God as “Vengeance is his”. The scriptural backing for this was Romans 13. To fight against the “authorities” was to fight against God. We actually studied experiences and watched videos of Nazi concentration camps TO PREPARE OURSELVES for when it happens HERE!
I thought this was just the pacifist aspect of the church I was attending until I started seeing articles like these, where churches all over the county of many different faiths were all being taught the same thing, submit to the authorities and lay down your guns because of Romans 13.
It’s chilling. To know that they have infiltrated one of the most sacred places in most of our lives – the church – It leaves you thinking who can I trust if I can’t trust my pasture?
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:17 pm
SO, if these are pastors from various christian sects, then one can suspect priests from the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH !?!!
If FEMA got these, then they ALSO got ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS, right people?
Oooo, I’m so glad I’ve been out of religion for years. So happy!
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
For christians:
christianity is derived from Mithranism, a pagan religion. Along the way, christianity also picked up rites, and celebrations, and Holy Days from other Peoples and cultures.
JewAgainstZionism Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
A bit, but not entirely. Christianity IS a collection of several different beliefs, but it can’t really be tracked to one particular source…different parts of it come from one place, and different parts come from another.
February 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I wonder if it’s just Christian Churches who are doing this. I wonder if Synagogues and Mosques are also on the payroll.
People should start bringing this up in their churches. If the pastor starts acting weird about it, that’ll be a pretty good indication. I suspect that a Church that some relatives of mine go to are on the payroll. He is apparently a “new guy” who moved into the area and took over the pastorship this year. I mentioned something about the state of things, and the camps in front of him (not to him) and his answers were… very bizarre.. He didn’t say anything like “what are you talking about”, or “there isn’t anything like that going on”… something along the lines of “if people die, it is the way of God, and only God knows his plan, we mustn’t concern ourselves, as It’s in God’s hands” and said something about “people die all the time”.
I also attended a stage performance around the Christmas season that was put on by one of the giganto mega-churches in the area. It was unbelievable how much they were pushing globalism on their huge projection screens. I also noticed a lot of subtle visual subliminal messages, including something in the background when talking about something completely different that looked like some sort of “rapture/project blue beam”, as well as the Omega symbol thrown in all over the place, and the sun and eye all over the place.
I’m glad I don’t attend religious services with any amount of regularity. The mind control is thick, and it’s obvious just what master many of these religious leaders serve.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 am
By the way, any clergy who says the bible compels you to turn in your fire arms is a liar and and he doesn’t know his scriptures. Don’t listen to men who teach their own beliefs instead of the scriptures.
Jesus twice instructed his followers to be armed.
Luke 11:21-22 “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe. But when someone stronger attacks and overpowers him, he takes away the armor in which the man trusted and divides up the spoils.”
Luke 22:36
“He said to them. But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword , sell your cloak and buy one”
So a real christian will follow the instructions of Jesus, not some hypocrite preacher.
1 Samuel 13 19-22
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 am
Kissing Hank’s Ass: A Religious Parody
This morning there was a knock at my door. When I
answered the door he found a well groomed, nicely dressed
couple.
The man spoke first: “Hi! I’m John, and this is Mary.”
Mary
“Hi! We’re here to invite you to come kiss Hank’s ass with us.”
Me
“Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who’s Hank, and why
would I want to kiss his ass?”
John
“If you kiss Hank’s ass, he’ll give you a million dollars; and
if you don’t, he’ll kick the shit out of you.”
Me
“What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?”
John
“Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town.
Hank owns this town. He can do what ever he wants and what he
wants is to give you a million dollars, but he can’t until you
kiss his ass.”
Me
“That doesn’t make any sense. Why…”
Mary
“Who are you to question Hank’s gift? Don’t you want a million
dollars? Isn’t it worth a little kiss on the ass?”
Me
“Well maybe, if it’s legit, but…”
John
“Then come kiss Hank’s ass with us.”
Me
“Do you kiss Hank’s ass often?”
Mary
“Oh yes, all the time…”
Me
“And has he given you a million dollars?”
John
“Well no, you don’t actually get the money until you leave town.”
Me
“So why don’t you just leave town now?”
Mary
“You can’t leave until Hank tells you to, or you don’t get the
money, and he kicks the shit out of you.”
Me
“Do you know anyone who kissed Hank’s ass, left town, and got
the million dollars?”
John
“My mother kissed Hank’s ass for years. She left town last
year, and I’m sure she got the money.”
Me
“Haven’t you talked to her since then?”
John
“Of course not, Hank doesn’t allow it.”
Me
“So what makes you think he’ll actually give you the money if
you’ve never talked to anyone who got the money?”
Mary
“Well, he gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you’ll
get a raise; maybe you’ll win a small lotto; maybe you’ll just
find a twenty dollar bill on the street.”
Me
“What’s that got to do with Hank?”
John
“Hank has certain connections.”
Me
“I’m sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game.”
John
“But it’s a million dollars! Can you really take the chance?
And remember, if you don’t kiss Hank’s ass he’ll kick the shit
of you.”
Me
“Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to him, get the details
straight from him…”
Mary
“No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank.”
Me
“Then how do you kiss his ass?”
John
“Sometimes we just blow him a kiss, and think of his ass. Other
times we kiss Karl’s ass, and he passes it on.”
Me
“Who’s Karl?”
Mary
“A friend of ours. He’s the one who taught us all about kissing
Hank’s ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few
times.”
Me
“And you just took his word for it when he said there was a
Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss his ass, and that Hank
would reward you?”
John
“Oh no! Karl’s got a letter Hank sent him years ago explaining
the whole thing. Here’s a copy; see for yourself.”
John handed me a photocopy of a handwritten memo on “From the
desk of Karl” letterhead. There were eleven items listed:
1.) Kiss Hank’s ass and he’ll give you a million dollars when
you leave town.
2.) Use alcohol in moderation.
3.) Kick the shit out of people who aren’t like you.
4.) Eat right.
5.) Hank dictated this list himself.
6.) The moon is made of green cheese.
7.) Everything Hank says is right.
8.) Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
9.) Don’t drink.
10.) Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
11.) Kiss Hank’s ass or he’ll kick the shit out of you.
Me
“This would appear to be written on Karl’s letterhead.”
Mary
“Hank didn’t have any paper.”
Me
“I have a hunch that if we checked we’d find this is Karl’s handwriting.”
John
“Of course, Hank dictated it.”
Me
“I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?”
Mary
“Not now, but years ago he would talk to some people.”
Me
“I thought you said he was a philanthropist. What sort of
philanthropist kicks the shit out of people just because
they’re different?”
Mary
“It’s what Hank wants, and Hank’s always right.”
Me
“How do you figure that?”
Mary
“Item 7 says Everything Hanks says is right.’ That’s good
enough for me!”
Me
“Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up.”
John
“No way! Item 5 says ‘Hank dictated this list himself.’
Besides, item 2 says ‘Use alcohol in moderation,’ item 4
says ‘Eat right,’ and item 8 says ‘Wash your hands after going
to the bathroom.’ Everyone knows those things are right, so
the rest must be true, too.”
Me
“But #9 says ‘Don’t Drink,’ which doesn’t quite go with #2. And
#6 says ‘The moon is made of green cheese,’ which is just
plain wrong.”
John
“There’s no contradiction between 9 and 2; 9 just clarifies 2.
As to 6, you’ve never been to the moon, so you can’t say for
sure.”
Me
“Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is
made of rock…”
Mary
“But they don’t know if the rock came from the Earth, or from
outer space, so it could just as easily be green cheese.”
Me
“I’m not really an expert, but I think the theory that the Moon
came from the Earth has been discounted. Besides, not knowing
where the rock came from doesn’t make it cheese.”
John
“Aha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we
know Hank is always right!”
Me
“We do?”
Mary
“Of course we do, Item 5 says so.”
Me
“You’re saying Hank’s always right because the list says so,
the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that
Hank dictated it because the list says so. That’s circular
logic, no different than saying ‘Hank’s right because he says
he’s right.’”
John
“Now you’re getting it! It’s so rewarding to see someone come
around to Hank’s way of thinking.”
Me
“But…oh, never mind. What’s the deal with wieners?”
Mary blushes.
John
“Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It’s Hank’s way. Anything
else is wrong.”
Me
“What if I don’t have a bun?”
John
“No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong.”
Me
“No relish? No Mustard?”
Mary looks positively stricken.
John shouts
“There’s no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are
wrong!”
Me
“So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it
would be out of the question?”
Mary (sticking her fingers in her ears)
“I am not listening to this. La la la, la la, la la la.”
John
“That’s disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat
that…”
Me
“It’s good! I eat it all the time.”
Mary faints.
John (catching her)
“Well, if I’d known you were one of those, I wouldn’t have
wasted my time. When Hank kicks the shit out of you, I’ll be
there, counting my money and laughing. I’ll kiss Hank’s ass for
you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater.” With this, John
dragged Mary to their waiting car, and sped off.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:46 am
This must not be happening in very many places.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 am
re: post of peace be upon the world: a little info on Mark Twain:
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.co.....g01892.pdf
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 am
To TheGhost:
If you say anything really bad about the Jews, your post will be deleted.
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:48 am
But many Church members follow the Holy Spirit:Charges won’t deter anti-abortion activists
Kevin Libin, National Post Published: Monday, February 02, 2009: http://www.nationalpost.com/ne.....id=1245751
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:57 am
I wouldn’t be opposed to hanging a few traitor, false profits.
“Kill Them All, Let God Sort Them Out”
February 6th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
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February 11th, 2009 at 7:05 am
What’s the brilliant concept behind attacking Christians and those of various belief systems in a comment section about “wolves” preying on “sheep”?
Are any one of you “religion haters” suggesting that the governments of man are any greater? Or that “non-belief” in something that can’t be satisfactory proven anyway somehow qualifies you as more enlightened than those who “believe”?
Why must we be so shallow as to think that if any “one group” (such as religious believers) were eliminated all or most of our problems would be solved? Has history taught you nothing?
I for one believe that ALL freedom-lovers have something to bring to the table, and that is what the fight against these globalist pigs is about!