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CIA: Osama Helped Bush in ‘04
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Robert Parry
Consortiumnews
August 31, 2009
(Originally published on July 4, 2006)
Editor’s note: The following article rests on the predicate that there is a legitimate terrorist group known as “al-Qaeda” and Osama bin Laden was alive in 2004 and producing videotapes. In fact, Osama’s videotapes are obvious fakes (a prime example of this is the December, 2001, Osama “confession” tape featuring a fat-nosed, considerably heavier and darker-skinned Osama stand-in). There is evidence — ignored by the corporate media — that Osama died in late December, 2001, in Afghanistan. Osama’s funeral was reported by the Egyptian newspaper al-Wafd on December 26, 2001. Pakistan’s Musharraf and Afghan President Hamid Karzai have stated for the record they believe Osama is dead. The FBI’s counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, told the BBC in July, 2002, that he believes Osama is dead. It should come as no surprise the corpse of Osama bin Laden was exploited (and still is) for political purposes — al-Qaeda was manufactured specifically for political purposes and as an excuse to invade small and defenseless countries and kill recalcitrant Muslims.
Consortiumnews Editor’s Note: A new book by former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge describes how Bush administration insiders pressed for an escalation in the color-coded threat level the weekend before the 2004 election following a released videotape of Osama bin Laden denouncing George W. Bush.
Ridge says in his book, The Test of Our Times, that Attorney General John Ashcroft and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld urged the escalation but Ridge and FBI Director Robert Mueller blocked the move by citing a lack of significant threat evidence.
Ridge writes that he wondered, “Is this about security or politics?” — and the incident firmed up his decision to quit, which he did, although not until after the election.
However, lost in the debate over Ridge’s revelation is evidence that al-Qaeda was almost as eager for Bush to gain a second term as the Republicans were. One senior al-Qaeda leader later confided to a terrorist ally in Iraq that “prolonging the war is in our interest.”
Plus, the reason for the threat-elevation discussion — the release of bin Laden’s video — was being interpretted inside the CIA’s analytical division as an attempt by bin Laden to ensure Bush’s second term and to make certain Bush’s clumsy “war on terror” continued.
Because of the Ridge disclosure, we are re-posting a story from our Archive — originally published on July 4, 2006 — regarding bin Laden’s clever tactic to keep “crusader” Bush in office:
On Oct. 29, 2004, just four days before the U.S. presidential election, al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden released a videotape denouncing George W. Bush. Some Bush supporters quickly spun the diatribe as “Osama’s endorsement of John Kerry.” But behind the walls of the CIA, analysts had concluded the opposite: that bin Laden was trying to help Bush gain a second term.
This stunning CIA disclosure is tucked away in a brief passage near the end of Ron Suskind’s The One Percent Doctrine, which draws heavily from CIA insiders. Suskind wrote that the CIA analysts based their troubling assessment on classified information, but the analysts still puzzled over exactly why bin Laden wanted Bush to stay in office.
According to Suskind’s book, CIA analysts had spent years “parsing each expressed word of the al-Qaeda leader and his deputy, [Ayman] Zawahiri. What they’d learned over nearly a decade is that bin Laden speaks only for strategic reasons. …
“Their [the CIA’s] assessments, at day’s end, are a distillate of the kind of secret, internal conversations that the American public [was] not sanctioned to hear: strategic analysis. Today’s conclusion: bin Laden’s message was clearly designed to assist the President’s reelection.
“At the five o’clock meeting, [deputy CIA director] John McLaughlin opened the issue with the consensus view: ‘Bin Laden certainly did a nice favor today for the President.’”
McLaughlin’s comment drew nods from CIA officers at the table. Jami Miscik, CIA deputy associate director for intelligence, suggested that the al-Qaeda founder may have come to Bush’s aid because bin Laden felt threatened by the rise in Iraq of Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi; bin Laden might have thought his leadership would be diminished if Bush lost the White House and their “eye-to-eye struggle” ended.
But the CIA analysts also felt that bin Laden might have recognized how Bush’s policies – including the Guantanamo prison camp, the Abu Ghraib scandal and the endless bloodshed in Iraq – were serving al-Qaeda’s strategic goals for recruiting a new generation of jihadists.
“Certainly,” the CIA’s Miscik said, “he would want Bush to keep doing what he’s doing for a few more years,” according to Suskind’s account of the meeting.
As their internal assessment sank in, the CIA analysts drifted into silence, troubled by the implications of their own conclusions. “An ocean of hard truths before them – such as what did it say about U.S. policies that bin Laden would want Bush reelected – remained untouched,” Suskind wrote.
One immediate consequence of bin Laden breaking nearly a year of silence to issue the videotape the weekend before the U.S. presidential election was to give the Bush campaign a much needed boost. From a virtual dead heat, Bush opened up a six-point lead, according to one poll.
Symbiotic Relationship
The implications of this new evidence are troubling, too, for the American people as they head toward another election in November 2006 that also is viewed as a referendum on Bush’s prosecution of the “war on terror.”
As we have reported previously at Consortiumnews.com, a large body of evidence already existed supporting the view that the Bushes and the bin Ladens have long operated with a symbiotic relationship that may be entirely unspoken but nevertheless has been a case of each family acting in ways that advance the interests of the other. [See “Osama’s Briar Patch” or “Is Bush al-Qaeda's 'Useful Idiot?'”]
Before al-Qaeda launched the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks against New York and Washington, Bush was stumbling in a presidency that many Americans felt was headed nowhere. As Bush took a month-long vacation at his Texas ranch in August 2001, his big issue was a plan to restrict stem-cell research on moral grounds.
Privately, Bush’s neoconservative advisers were chafing under what they saw as the complacency of the American people unwilling to take on the mantle of global policeman as the world’s sole superpower. Some neocons felt that only a new “Pearl Harbor” would galvanize a public consensus for action against Iraq and other “rogue states.”
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Other senior administration officials, such as Vice President Dick Cheney, dreamed of the restoration of the imperial presidency that – after Richard Nixon’s Watergate scandal – had been cut down to size by Congress, the courts and the press. A national crisis would help create a cover for a new assertion of presidential power.
Meanwhile, halfway around the world, bin Laden and his al-Qaeda militants were facing defeat after defeat. Their brand of Islamic extremism had lost out in Muslim societies from Algeria and Egypt to Saudi Arabia and Jordan. Bin Laden and his lieutenants had even been expelled from Sudan.
Bin Laden and his allies had been chased to the farthest corners of the planet, in this case the caves of Afghanistan. At this critical juncture, al-Qaeda’s brain trust decided that their best hope was to strike at the United States and count on a clumsy reaction that would offend the Islamic world and rally angry young Muslims to al-Qaeda’s banner.
So, by early summer 2001, as the clock ticked down to 9/11, 19 al-Qaeda operatives positioned themselves inside the United States and prepared to attack. But U.S. intelligence analysts picked up evidence of al-Qaeda’s plans by sifting through the “chatter” of electronic intercepts. The U.S. warning system was “blinking red.”
‘Something So Big’
Over the weekend of July Fourth 2001, a well-placed U.S. intelligence source passed on a disturbing piece of information to then-New York Times reporter Judith Miller, who later recounted the incident in an interview with Alternet.
“The person told me that there was some concern about an intercept that had been picked up,” Miller said. “The incident that had gotten everyone’s attention was a conversation between two members of al-Qaeda. And they had been talking to one another, supposedly expressing disappointment that the United States had not chosen to retaliate more seriously against what had happened to the [destroyer USS] Cole [which was bombed on Oct. 12, 2000].
“And one al-Qaeda operative was overheard saying to the other, ‘Don’t worry; we’re planning something so big now that the U.S. will have to respond.’”
In the Alternet interview, published in May 2006 after Miller resigned from the Times, the reporter expressed regret that she had not been able to nail down enough details about the intercept to get the story into the newspaper.
But the significance of her recollection is that more than two months before the 9/11 attacks, the CIA knew that al-Qaeda was planning a major attack with the intent of inciting a U.S. military reaction – or in this case, an overreaction.
The CIA tried to warn Bush about the threat on Aug. 6, 2001, with the hope that presidential action could energize government agencies and head off the attack. The CIA sent analysts to his ranch in Crawford, Texas, to brief him and deliver a report entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.”
Bush was not pleased by the intrusion. He glared at the CIA briefer and snapped, “All right, you’ve covered your ass,” according to Suskind’s book.
Then, putting the CIA’s warning in the back of his mind and ordering no special response, Bush returned to a vacation of fishing, clearing brush and working on a speech about stem-cell research.
Al-Qaeda’s Gamble
For its part, al-Qaeda was running a risk that the United States might strike a precise and devastating blow against the terrorist organization, eliminating it as an effective force without alienating much of the Muslim world.
If that happened, the cause of Islamic extremism could have been set back years, without eliciting much sympathy from most Muslims for a band of killers who wantonly murdered innocent civilians.
After the 9/11 attacks, al-Qaeda’s gamble almost failed as the CIA, backed by U.S. Special Forces, ousted bin Laden’s Taliban allies in Afghanistan and cornered much of the al-Qaeda leadership in the mountains of Tora Bora near the Pakistani border.
But instead of using U.S. ground troops to seal the border, Bush relied on the Pakistani army, which was known to have mixed sympathies about al-Qaeda. The Pakistani army moved its blocking force belatedly into position while bin Laden and others from his inner circle escaped.
Then, instead of staying focused on bin Laden and his fellow fugitives, Bush moved on to other objectives. Bush shifted U.S. Special Forces away from bin Laden and al-Qaeda and toward Saddam Hussein and Iraq.
Many U.S. terrorism experts, including White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, were shocked at this strategy, since the intelligence community didn’t believe that Hussein’s secular dictatorship had any working relationship with al-Qaeda – and had no role in the 9/11 attacks.
Nevertheless, Bush ordered an invasion of Iraq on March 19, 2003, ousting Hussein from power but also unleashing mayhem across Iraqi society. Soon, the Iraq War – combined with controversies over torture and mistreatment of Muslim detainees – were serving as recruitment posters for al-Qaeda.
Under Jordanian exile Zarqawi, al-Qaeda set up terrorist cells in central Iraq, taking root amid the weeds of sectarian violence and the nation’s general anarchy. Instead of an obscure group of misfits, al-Qaeda was achieving legendary status among many Muslims as the defenders of the Islamic holy lands, battling the new “crusaders” led by Bush.
Back in the USA
Meanwhile, back in the United States, the 9/11 attacks had allowed Bush to reinvent himself as the “war president” who operated almost without oversight. He saw his approval ratings surge from the 50s to the 90s – and watched as the Republican Party consolidated its control of the U.S. Congress in 2002.
Though the worsening bloodshed in Iraq eroded Bush’s popularity in 2004, political adviser Karl Rove still framed the election around Bush’s aggressive moves to defend the United States and to punish American enemies.
Whereas Bush was supposedly resolute, Democrat Kerry was portrayed as weak and indecisive, a “flip-flopper.” Kerry, however, scored some political points in the presidential debates by citing the debacle at Tora Bora that enabled bin Laden to escape.
The race was considered neck-and-neck as it turned toward the final weekend of campaigning. Then, the shimmering image of Osama bin Laden appeared on American televisions, speaking directly to the American people, mocking Bush and offering a kind of truce if U.S. forces withdrew from the Middle East.
“He [Bush] was more interested in listening to the child’s story about the goat rather than worry about what was happening to the [twin] towers,” bin Laden said. “So, we had three times the time necessary to accomplish the events. Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al-Qaeda. Your security is in your own hands. Any nation that does not attack us will not be attacked.”
Though both Bush and Kerry denounced bin Laden’s statement, right-wing pundits, bloggers and talk-show hosts portrayed it as an effort to hurt Bush and help Kerry – which understandably prompted the exact opposite reaction among many Americans. [For instance, conservative blog site, Little Green Footballs, headlined its Oct. 31, 2004, commentary as “Bin Laden Threatens U.S. States Not to Vote for Bush.”]
However, behind the walls of secrecy at Langley, Virginia, U.S. intelligence experts reviewed the evidence and concluded that bin Laden was fully aware that his videotape would encourage the American people to do the opposite of what he recommended.
By demanding an American surrender, bin Laden knew U.S. voters would instinctively want to fight. That way bin Laden helped ensure that George W. Bush would stay in power, would continue his clumsy “war on terror” – and would drive thousands of new recruits into al-Qaeda’s welcoming arms.
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August 31st, 2009 at 11:05 am
The reason you will never have another independent investigation of 9-11 is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Any independent investigation would immediately try to verify the plane debris to make sure that 9-11 was exactly as we have been told. Just one problem, there were no commercial planes on 9-11. No debris will ever be verified.
The reason that everything will be kept in “secrecy” and never released to the public is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason the families will NEVER ask for verification of plane debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations on 9-11 is because there is NONE! There were NO commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason the NYC CAN ballot will fail miserably for no particular reason is because then you would learn that there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason UPI will never do a story about the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11 is because there is a presidential order that says if you did your media outlet would be shut down for reasons of “national security”. There were no commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason Gitmo trials are held in secret and confession by torture is always accepted and legal is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. The never ending global US war on terror is based ENTIRELY on a fraud. That’s why these “terrorists” all have military lawyers, they will never try to EVER verify what 9-11 was in the first place which was planes crashing.
The reason that many victims families feel they have never learned the truth is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Any independent investigation would immediately focus on verifying the debris from the planes. There isn’t any. After 8 years not ONE single speck of debris from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations from 9-11 has EVER been verified in ANY WAY by ANYONE!!!! Despite what you might “think”, that unfortunately is true. Why? Because there were no commercial planes on 9-11.
The reason the original 911 Commission didn’t “go far enough” or verified any debris from any of the planes, was because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Google and watch all the parts of “September Clues”.
Always remember that witnesses, video, photos, and film…..regardless of how much and how many…..have NEVER in aviation history verified a plane crash. Only wreckage and debris verifies a plane crash. Not one single piece of debris from any plane on 9-11 has EVER been verified. Not one piece. Why? Because TWNCPONE.
American Princess Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 12:18 pm
We need to hunt down Osama bin Laden including anyone else who were responsible for attacking us on 9/11
Tom Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 12:34 pm
If there were no commercial planes on 9/11 then anything bin laden ever did is irrelevant. There were no commercial planes so there were no highjackers or passengers. I am starting to think that this is correct. there are so many implications its sickening.
Tom Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 12:38 pm
the reason bin laden has yet to be cuaght is he would say there were no commercial planes on 9/11? If there were no planes with people or commercial planes that would explain why bin laden has yet to be caught or he’s dead. Considering how many have died surrounding 9/11 bin laden being alive is impossible. I am beginning to learn what that phrase no commercial planes on 9/11 really means. It explains too much?
jt Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
The reason Osama was never caught is because no one is looking for him, in fact everyone is told they better stay away from him. Go to the FBI websites most wanted. You will not find him on the list. Who knows, Osama Bin Laden might not even exhist.
Andrew Jackson Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:06 am
Tom – watch zeitgeistMovie. part two(II) explains how the 19 hijackers that were listed on tv were not the real hijackers.
Solid Snake Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Lets start by searching the White House first, for the ones responsible for the attacks.
Prescott Steve Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 9:45 pm
American Princess, Turd!
ROCK Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 11:54 pm
We’re looking in the wrong places for ol Osama bin…
Try the VIP suites at the best US and European hospitals
He is a close family friend of the Bush’s…. anyone check their digs?
or at any one of the many bin Laden family owned luxiry villas around the world.
You think a guy wiht that kind of money is living an F’ing cave?
Besides he has dozens of wifes to visit, and his multitude of kids to play Daddy too.
My guess he owns and operates dozens of 7-11 stores.
Pilikia Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
He’s probably on the Bush estate in Paraguay.
Hologram5 Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Bin Lauden is dead. His kidneys were failing prior to the 9/11 tragedy. I don’t think they have dialysis machines in the caves where he lived.
LetFreedomRingNow Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 12:28 am
That was all fabricated information! Osama Bin Laden is alive and in good health…he is a creation of the cia…don’t they take care of their people???
DigitalFortress Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
We need to hunt down the bush and the bin laiden family.
The carlyle group and the corporations that benifited and help perpatrate the horrific events of 9/11. Ben Laiden works for the CIA. As did Sadam Hussien. Their not going to find Ben Laiden because thier not looking for him. The Al Qiada was created , funded and trained by the CIA during the Cold War.
The Question no one seems to ask Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Who is supplying the afghanis with weapons?
LetFreedomRingNow Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 12:29 am
we are
Tim Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
WTC 7 was hit by a plane!!!!!! I have video and a witness. Case closed. WTC 7 was hit by a plane. I have a video that was in my possession for several days and a witness who is actually an actor hired by the FBI who was conducting a terrorist training drill at the exact moment the plane hit WTC 7. Case closed. WTC 7 was hit by a plane!
A witness and video is all you will ever need to verify a plane crash. You don’t need debris or wreckage. The crash was so violent that no debris could have ever survived at any of the four sites on 9/11. WTC 7 was hit by a plane! Witnesses and video is all you will need. WTC 7 was hit by a plane! It collapsed at freefall speed so a plane must have hit it. WTC 7 was hit by a plane because someone saw it AND I have a 2 second video. The video doesn’t actually show it hitting the building just going behind it and “melding” into it from an angle on the film that cannot be seen. WTC 7 was hit by a plane! Witnesses and video PROVE beyond any doubt that a plane hit WTC 7!!! The witnesses and video VERIFY the plane crashing into WTC 7!!! Case closed.
ps…..the insurance companies that pay to replace the planes from 9/11 have yet to pay a single penny. The reason is they only pay by verifiable wreckage. After 8 years not one single piece of wreckage from any of the 4 planes from any of the 4 locations from 9/11 has ever been verified.
GLV Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
No commercial planes stuff again. Always on about this stuff. You know what? Says who?
Prove it. Could it be true? Could there have been substitute, stand-in planes like those called for in some of the Northwoods planning proposals? Sure. Why not. Is that what really happened on 9/11? I don’t know. BUT NEITHER DO YOU. Is it necessary that stand-in airliners were used in order for the argument to be made that some kind of a cover-up surrounding the events of 9/11 has probably taken place? Absolutely not. If you don’t think there’s a DIRECT AND STANDING RELATIONSHIP between Al Qaeda and the CIA, then you’re an idiot.
What NOBODY seems to understand around these message boards (as opposed to serious investigative sites like Paul Thompson’s “Hstory Commons ‘Complete 9/11 Timeline’”) is that, at the end of the day, EVERYTHING that happened on that day from an OPERATIIONAL STANDPOINT could theoretically have happened (albiet likely that some or even much of it didn’t) EXACTLY as the official story says it did [i.e., four planes were hijacked by Fundamentalist Muslim Jihadists, 1 crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania leaving a giant hole in the ground, 1 into the Pentagon in Virginia causing significant damage to one wall of the building, and 2 into the WTC towers in NYC, NY, causing both of those buildings to completely collapse and raining debris upon surrounding causing extensive damage to those buildings as well and starting a fire in WTC7 which eventually led to its own subsequent collapse, making those 2 planes directly and indirectly responsible for the collapse of 3 buildings in total and massive amounts of miscellaneous structural damage in the area] and STILL the whole thing was probably an INSIDE JOB.
Look, it just doesn’t do anyone in the Truth Movement any good for you to go around screaming all over the place about “no commercial planes” when a) you can’t prove it, and b) it probably isn’t a truly integral piece of the puzzle in any event, or at least I have yet to see a plausible argument as to why it is.
Start looking at the money trails, folks, because that’s where the prospect of prosecutable evidence really lies. That’s where the actual government-institutional and corporate-financial chain of command begins to lay itself bare, in very, very incriminating ways. That’s where we need smart people to begin focusing their energies.
Look to the whistleblowers–people like Indira Singh and Robert Wright and what they have said in interviews like this:
http://www.corbettreport.com/i.....umentation
Look at Sibel Edmonds. How does her story (only partially revealed though it has been) complement the others?
Start following up on THAT sort of research for a while. Just a suggestion.
Clay Rains Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I agree totally GLV. You’re saying exactly what I’ve been saying a lot lately. I wish more people doubting the official story would spend more of their time focusing on the HARD EVIDENCE. I’m not one of those people that’s saying we shouldn’t talk about this or that. Not at all… in fact, though I think some things like the, “no planes,” is total CoIntelPro… I agree with some issues regarding the Pentagon and other points raised.
My point is that we’re all drawn to these “sexy” issues, that are contentious and difficult to prove, while we nearly completely ignore the undeniable evidence like the 9/11 war games and prior warnings, etc. I’m not going to say I know for a fact that those planes were NOT passenger jets, I’m just saying that our prime directive should be to discredit the official story and get a new investigation. I just don’t think whether or not bin Laden videos were real, whether planes were switched, etc,–though I think they have plenty of validity–are going to lead to a new investigation.
If you notice, these things like no planes, and a missle hitting the Pentagon are always what these 9/11 hit pieces on the History Channel and Popular Mechanics always focus on. If you notice, they rarely if EVER come near any issues like Able Danger, stymied FBI investigations and the like. I think it’s obvious why–it’s the hardest evidence and the most damaging to the official story… and they can’t refute or deny it. I think that’s why this stuff should come first.
GLV Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:53 am
exactly
GLV Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:02 am
The danger is that these contentious and unprovable issues, themselves, become the straw men. The hard research and documentable facts are out there, the smoking guns lie somewhere therein, and the case is, TO THIS DAY, becoming more and more coherent and credible because these facts are being compiled and aligned by bright people who understand what is TRULY RELEVANT TO THE CASE and what is SECONDARY. We need people with prosecutorial mindsets. When all is said and done, THAT sort of attituded will really win the day.
Stacey Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 3:58 pm
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The war on terror must end. Bring our soldiers home.
gabrielle Reply:
September 10th, 2009 at 11:14 am
see whatdoesitmean.com for what israel just did. top story in red non censored. love gabrielle
August 31st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
So Osama is the new Goldstein.
Dogfood Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
############ OSAMA BIN LADEN MAKES A NEW VIDEO! ##############
############ OSAMA BIN LADEN MAKES A NEW VIDEO! ##############
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUiNiB2yVCQ
############ OSAMA BIN LADEN MAKES A NEW VIDEO! ##############
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joe blow Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
goldstien snowball and the bogey man all rolled into one
August 31st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
This guy… TWNCPONE… I swear he just sits here and refreshing Infowars.com all day long…
A;;;; Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
right. though is he right. I am starting to google this shit and it is raising alot of questions. I am thinking this is guy is right. If there were no planes with people then 9/11 was bs. Not being planes expliians alot of questions. No planes with people explains everything about 9/11.
jt Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 1:55 pm
I always knew there were no commercial planes. Just military planes packed with explosives. All the passengers from 3 planes were averted to the plane that was shot down over PA and the gov just implemented that one into the hijacking conspiracy.
Stacey Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 3:54 pm
If there were no commercial planes on 9/11 then the war on terror must end? That war is based on highjackers aboard those commercial planes ?! If no commercial planes then no more war on terror. The Patriot Act and the Homeland Security Agency must be reconsidered?! We need to bring the US soldiers home TODAY?!
GLV Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:22 am
Fuck you. Prove it.
GLV Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:28 am
You all say the same shit over and over again. Ya know? I mean, exactly the same shit. Like you’re copying it from a template.
GLV Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:30 am
(?!)
Oscar Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 8:56 am
There were no commercial planes on 9-11.
August 31st, 2009 at 12:13 pm
I told you so!!! I TOLD YOU SO !!!!!
(actually, Alan Watt told us so. but the proof is IN YOUR FACE!)
get your world history from AJ’s friend, at:
http://www.CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com
And send the man one dollar in the mail, alright?
August 31st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
The late Benazir Bhutto told David Frost that Osama Bin Laden was dead. & that Bin Laden was murdered in 2001 by Omar Sheikh. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
Ps: & i for one would believe her over anything our government says…
August 31st, 2009 at 12:18 pm
The late Benazir Bhutto told David Frost that Osama Bin Laden was dead. & that Bin Laden was murdered in 2001 by Omar Sheikh. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
Ps: I believe her over anything our government says…
August 31st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
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August 31st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
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Tim Geithner refusus to answser Brad Shermans question:
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August 31st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
wel that somes it up
August 31st, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Jewdith Miller is an Israeli asset. Her story about the intercept is Israeli propaganda. Bin Laden had nothing to do with 911. Shes a Message Force Multiplier. She and her good Jewish friend Harold Rhodes got to go rip off antiquities at a historical Iraqi sites of Jewish antiquities. After the army inventoried books and other items, stuff started disappearing. Theres Judith and Harold laughing and boxing things up. Off course we know about her role in the outing of Valerie Plame. Sibel Edmonds has more info regarding the outing of Brewster Jennings in her deposition that was just released. She names the traitor BY NAME at the state dept who was telling foreign nations to avoid Brewster Jennings because it was an agency asset.
August 31st, 2009 at 12:53 pm
S: ” Bin Laden had nothing to do with 911.”
R: The reason Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9-11 is because there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Sibel Edmonds is a rabbit hole. She has said nothing that wasn’t already known or mentioned in some regard. Judith Miller works for US media. What more do you need to know about her. She follows orders.
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. Ms. Edmonds refuses to acknowledge that truth. Why? History will show that millions knew the truth of 9-11 and remained silent. She will be one of them.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:30 pm
The best way to get out of the this is to get the US out of the UN, the UN out of the US, AND get the US out of the ME and the ME out of the US. DRILL and BUILD in the USA, not BRAZIL, Let them DRINK their OIL!
August 31st, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Kerry, Obama, Bush, McCain, Gore, Dole, Clinton
wow we’ve had some hellagood candidates lately, right guys?
August 31st, 2009 at 1:58 pm
The best way to get out of this is to raise hitler from the dead and let him go on and kill them cock roaches.
LetFreedomRingNow Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 12:44 am
sorry jt…good idea but hitler is one of them also…he was also a puppet with financial backing by the good ole boy network (CFR, Tri-Lats, Bilderburg). They have infiltrated every facet of everything you can possibly imagine…all right in front of our faces and deserve an oscar for their performances!!
August 31st, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Obama Orders Billions Secreted Into Making “Mark Of Beast” Microchip
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1269.htm
Page 1001 of the “Health Care Bill”
August 31st, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Please read my post on President Obama, Barack Obama. It will definately be worth your time. It’s all good cop/bad cop game, we’re being played!
August 31st, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Sorry, they all got eliminated once posted. Got to get to bed. Please look up Lt Quarles Harris Jr and see what happens when you steal the wrong passport info!
August 31st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
The only problem with this is I’m not sure BinLaden is/was alive still now or then.
FightOrDie!!! Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Mac-101: The late Benazir Bhutto told David Frost that Osama Bin Laden was dead. & that Bin Laden was murdered by Omar Sheikh. Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
August 31st, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Heh Heh – so funny – what a rediculous half truth…
We all know the score – the sheeple never will…
August 31st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
“War is the common harvest of all those who participate in the division and expenditure of public money, in all countries. It is the art of conquering at home: the object of it is an increase of revenue: and as revenue cannot be increased without taxes, a pretence must be made for expenditures. In reviewing the history of the English Government, its wars and its taxes, a bystander, not blinded by prejudice, nor warped by interest, would declare, that taxes were not raised to carry on wars, but that wars were raised to carry on taxes.” –Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, Part 1
August 31st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
ive never read so much badly written fiction before, lift your game ffs
August 31st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I’ll give a whirl at trying to prove the no commercial plane theory (apparently called TWNCPONE)
The first plane was filmed by the documentary group. The video clearly shows right before the plane hits the tower a flash of light, some thought was sunlight, but it appears below the nose of the plane rather than above it. I’m not sure I totally understand the physics, but if it was not a natural phenomenon and was a flash of light, it would prove that there were bombs on the first plane, and so probably not a commercial plane but a radio controlled military plane.
The second plane, caught on more video tape. Stop right before it crashes into the tower. It appears as if there is only one engine. Also, it also appears as if there are no windows.
The third plane, the pentagon, has a hole obviously too small for a commercial plane. The documentary 9/11 deceptions shows that the piece of the plane they found was small and very light weight, more like a military plane than a commercial plane. The engine was also too small and the FBI video showed a plane (or missile) that was too small. I think with some certainty that the pentagon plane was actually a controlled radio plane (i.e. no pilot, passengers, hijackers, or luggage).
Fourth, the hole in Shanksville also was far too small for a commercial plane, but about the same size as the hole in the pentagon.
Okay, so that’s all four planes. Now, the pentagon and shanksville to me definitely seems like a radio controlled (or some other means) military plane. What this means, is that there were no passengers, there were no terrorist hijackers, bin laden doesn’t mean anything, and yes, the military was definitely involved (they were running drills on that day, any number of military planes could have been in the air, or maybe Dick Cheney was controlling them from the white house bunker).
This is indeed huge, and the major key to unlocking 9/11, perhaps even more pressing than WTC 7. I’m just an amateur at this not a conspiracy “buff” so please take that into consideration.
What is also frightening to me, is that if there were no passengers on the planes, the number 3000 (victims) could be dramatically reduced. I’m not saying no one was killed, but if, and only if, the number was actually 1500-2000 instead of 3000, we have to ask a serious question. It’s not longer “would the government kill 3000 of its own citizens to carry out political planes?” Maybe not, but we should be asking “would the government kill 1000 of its own citizens?”
They want us to think there were more people that died, so it would seem uncalled for that they would really stage the attack. What if (another giant what if) there were only 300-500 people who died on 9/11, after all, does anyone know the family members? The only family member I know of is a 9/11 truther. And did the media ever do interviews with Mark Bingham and the others? Most of those people don’t even show up on the social security death index. So something fishy is going on. I think the majority of Americans would believe the government planned something that killed 500 or so Americans, but claimed the attacks killed 3000 (after all the passengers were accounted for).
Again, this is not hard core evidence, but I do think there is some hard core evidence that at least the pentagon and Shanksville was a controlled military plane.
Oscar Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:16 am
JM….excellent start.
What you are saying is that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. That is what the US government, military, and military owned US media outlets have based the entire never ending global war on terror upon!!! Over 5 million people have been slaughtered because of that lie. Trillions of dollars have been allocated and borrowed, 100’s of thousands have been renditioned and tortured without charges….all because of the lies of planes on 9-11.
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The implications are massive. Stop trying to “solve the crime” in terms of what and how these killers may have carried out their murders. That will be for historians to figure out. It may have been a military plane, jassm, global hawk, daffy duck….who knows. The only thing the world needs to understand right now is that: THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11.
ps….the flash you see before the planes hit at the WTC’s acted like a beacon for the video producers to later put the noses of the planes at that exact spot (it acted like a que for video production). On the day of 9-11…..NO video showed the plane crashing into anything (even though there were dozens of helicopters filming WTC2 before the “hit”….it recorder 7 seconds of video from 5 angles and none showed an actual crash!) The FBI vetted EVERY SINGLE VIDEO that you saw. ALL videos were in the possession of the FBI and their teams before you saw anything. The US government allows 400,000 Americans to die every year from smoking cigarettes. Killing a few thousand means nothing to them. They have so far killed millions in the war on terror. Death means nothing to a killer.
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The world has been lied to by military, government, and media. People will violently oppose you even speaking about the truth that there were no commercial planes on 9-11. Even on these posts you can easily see who they are. Why? The war on terror is a multi trillion dollar a year industry employing millions of people. Ending that industry may not be an option for some?
August 31st, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I am pretty sure there were planes on 9/ll. Who are you to say there wasn’t? We want a 9/11 investigation so we can get the truth, we don’t know the entire truth, no one does, if they say they do then they were involved in the entire plot.
I have seen more videos and read more than most people about 9/11, and I still question what hit the pentagon. I am certain about 93 and the towers, but the pentagon still baffles me somewhat.
Keep on truckin infowars. I don’t always agree with this site and Alex Jones gets nutty sometimes and sometimes I even stop coming to this site because it is too much and seems unreal. But I always come back because there is truth in what is called the NEW WORLD ORDER and I really hate them.
FightOrDie!!! Reply:
August 31st, 2009 at 8:19 pm
FuckFoxNews – I don’t know about this part of your post: “I have seen more videos and read more than most people about 9/11″ But I have read a lot & have seen alot of videos about 911 as well & im totally convinced that there were no planes used as weapons on 911. Whatever hit the pentagon ( most likely a missile ) hit it in the only section that was reinforced against a “terrorist attack”. I have read & seen on videos that the supposed hijackers that were taking flying lesson couldn’t fly small planes let alone jetliners. “Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane. However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took the slender, soft-spoken Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot’s license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons”.
ActionJackson Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:02 am
“I am pretty sure there were planes on 9/ll”
YOU’RE PRETTY SURE??????? My brother was killed in Afghanistan because he was told he was fighting the terrorist who did 9/11. And now after all these years we are pretty sure? Shouldn’t we get god damn CERTAIN!!!! I too am now realizing that there were no commercial planes on 9/11 and that my brothers death was in vain. I feel very sick inside for the fellow soldiers. No wonder their suicide rates are the highest in military history. I think they may know they are killing people for nothing and its effecting them.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Amendment 2 – Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
please join
contact pat…..especially if your from Texas….All must Unite
aerialup23@yahoo.com
August 31st, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Hey Infowars, how come you pick & choose which of my comments you want to post. Stop deleting my comments.
August 31st, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Pretty good post.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
I don’t know guys, I’m watching National Geographic on T.V and they are Debunking you TRUTHERS (no I’m not bashing you), or at least they are TRYING to. I’m only 30 min. into it, and they are trying to debunk the “collapse” of the towers. They showed testing on a 8″ I-beam heated w/jet fuel to about 2100 F. . The beam did bow/twist and failed….
Uh Oh, now they are saying that you have a mental illness.LOL (ok, I threw that one in) Anyway, even though I have never held the belief that the two Main Towers were an inside job, I certainly am puzzled about #7 Building. WTF?
stay tuned, more at the top of the hour……..
Jennifer Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:48 am
NatGEO is owned by Rupert Murdoch. His best friend is Larry Silverstein. Murdoch provided the only video feed of the events of ground zero for over 2 1/2 hours on the morning of 9-11. The only children aboard the “planes” of 9-11 were from the Nation Geographic Society going on a supposed field trip. It was Murdoch and Gulianni that pushed the “terrorism insurance policy” and Murdoch pushed the Port Authority to change the ownership to private for Silverstein in the summer of 01′ for the first time in the 40 year history of the WTC’s. When you watch a “debunking” show on History Channel remember that Murdoch owns that too.
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. Murdoch will go down in history as one of the main architects and conspirators of the events of 9-11.
oldenough Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Building #7 is what has caused me to take pause, and look at the 9/11 event from a different angle. The “towers” can be argued all day long. But #7 looks more like a waterloo, than an “anomaly”.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:56 pm
There WERE commercial planes on 9/11…………..
jm Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:59 am
okay, if you think there were commercial planes on 9/11, prove it.
I will make myself perfectly clear. I DO NOT believe in the NO PLANE THEORY
However, I do believe in the no COMMERCIAL plane theory. (read my post above under the name jm, my other one was deleted).
The difference is that one theory believes there were no planes, an obvious planted misinformation, the other theory states that there were no COMMERCIAL (i.e. united airlines, etc) planes.
Risking sounding annoying because I am reiterating myself over and over, I have to make myself perfectly clear.
I do not believe in the no plane theory, only in the no COMMERCIAL plane theory.
So, what do I believe in? The no plane theory? No, of course not, I believe the “commercial” planes were actually military planes. How else could they have gotten around NORAD?
Once again, I think the “commercial” planes were actually military planes.
One more time just for good measure. Do I believe there were no planes whatsoever on that day? No, of course not, I believe there were no commercial planes but instead they were military planes.
Okay, I’ve made myself so perfectly clear that I am now annoying. So please, don’t say “but there were planes.” Yes, there were planes, just not COMMERCIAL planes.
http://www.google.com/imgres?i.....p;ct=image
Tim Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:34 am
EXCATLY JM!!!!!
You are absolutely correct!!! The US has murdered 5 million people because 4 COMMERCIAL planes crashed on 9-11. They easily could have been military planes, missiles, rockets, nothing, bombs, launchers, remote demolitions, controlled demolitions, spider man……I dont know…..though what they were NEVER….was a commercial plane with people on them! Yet that IS the reason the US has killed and spent so much. There may have been planes….I dont know….they just were NOT commercial.
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The war on terror is a lie.
Jm…..never feel bad about voicing your concerns that there may not have been commercial planes on 9-11. Many will try and stop you because there is so much at stake if the truth reaches critical mass.
lyncher Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Tim…..do you believe or when have you known people taking a PERFECT picture of a MOVING object going at 550 m/p/h???
I just looked the link that posted.
September 1st, 2009 at 6:54 am
this stuff was writen in the bible the great hores city
cum away from her my people …….and there will
be no more traiding ever again so god allowed this to hapen
read your book the bible man
September 1st, 2009 at 7:00 am
Yep I saw the bullshit on TV about trying to call everyone a NUT ! Here s something nobody wants to touch ??? Bldg.7 at sometime during the morning of the 2 towers being hit the LOBBY of #7 blew to hell /there are or were a # of witness ???? But something went wrong and the bldg. didn,t go down ? The BBC showed a reporter at 5.23 stating that BLDG.7 HAD FALLEN but it was in the background still standing they cut her off after they saw there fuck up ??? The bldg fell at around 5.33 pm from explosives HOW DID THEY RIG THIS BLDG. in 9 hr. ITs NOT POSSIBLE !!!!!!!!!!UNLESS IT WAS ALREADY RIGGED TO BLOW !?!?!?!?
Jennifer Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:56 am
The SAME contractor that did the “reinforcement” work at the Pentagon also did the “reinforcement” work at WTC’s 1, 2, and 7!!!!!!
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. It was planned. To think that they planted the demolitions on the day of 9-11 is to truly think that the criminals came up with the idea that morning?!!!! There were no commercial planes on 9-11. The events of 9-11 were staged and planned long before that day.
There were no commercial planes on 9-11. WTC7 was an add on to the plan from Silverstein and the financial powers that be. When WTC7 collapsed it ended the criminal prosecution of over 4000 financial criminal cases including the largest ever known at the time….Enron. The very same humans whose cases were dismissed were the same people who are now recieveing the TRILLION dollar bailouts. That;s why you can never know where the TARP and bailout money is going. There were no commercial planes on 9-11.
September 1st, 2009 at 7:41 am
If you think that military planes or no planes hit the towers than state that on these boards. There were planes flying all over the world on 9-11 so saying there were no comercial planes doesn’t help you say what ever you are trying to say. Also, I’m pretty sure a 9/11 Truther is the husband or boyfriend of a flight attendant who died in one of the plane crashes and he himself blames the government. That is not to rule out that planes could have been switched. My money is on the planes were allowed to board and take off normally and then taken over by remote, possibly controlled from the doomsday plane seen over the whitehouse (but that might be a stretch). It is pretty crazy that to this day with all the video footage, we still can’t seem to be able to varify if the planes that hit the towers were miliraty planes or commercial planes.
Jennifer Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:40 am
Why do I come to this site every day and say THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11? Because every day someone says there were “no planes” on 9-11. I personally have never said that. The ONLY thing that has ever been said was THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11. To think that the phrase means that no planes existed on planet earth is rather amusing and a clever tactic though easily seen through. That is why trolls use that phrase “no planes’ vs. the one that has been used since 9-11….which is again: THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9-11.
The never ending global US war on terror is a staged lie. Just like Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, WMD’s in Iraq….etc etc. The US has staged murderous lies and attacks to justify wars before. They will do it again.
September 1st, 2009 at 8:06 am
Bringing back common sense and intelligence into this world will not be an easy task.
September 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
People,if we dont wake up fast we are going to be slaves to the system! Just look around you & you can see that things are getting worse ! Within weeks America as we once knew it is going to be transformed into full blown tyranny ! Wake up now and stand up for your country ! Give thanks to Alex Jones for what he has done to wake up the masses ! When you have time check out this new video explaining the NWO’s new plans !
http://www.hillbillypatriot.com
September 1st, 2009 at 11:22 am
People, do you know about “Operation Northwoods”? Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to “develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington”. This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that would blame the terrorist acts on a foreign government, namely Cuba. Here: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/n…..hwoods.pdf
September 1st, 2009 at 11:23 am
People, do you know about “Operation Northwoods”? Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to “develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington”. This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that would blame the terrorist acts on a foreign government, namely Cuba. Here: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/n…..hwoods.pdf
September 1st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
We all know what happened on 911.
Who stood to gain from these actions?
Find them, make them talk.
September 1st, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Yes we all know what happened but unfortunately the whole government is corrupted & the very few that aren’t are too scared to say anything. The only Man amongst childs is Ron Paul but he can’t fight this evil pricks all by himself.
September 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
c.i.a is rotten stinking son,s of female dogs they sacked me those bastards !!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Not even GOD and Jesus themselves are allowed to verify the debris from the planes on 9-11?
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Within days of 9/11 people knew there were no commercial planes on 9/11. People have been saying this from day one its just that we havent been listening. I know think there were no commercial planes on 9/11 too.
http://emperors-clothes.com/ar.....reason.htm
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pm
oh my god, these people keep sensorin’ my comments!!!!
... Reply:
September 6th, 2009 at 1:52 am
try changing certain key-words (automatically blocked)
September 4th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Bin laden?…..first of all if this case was being presented in the U.S. Supreme court it would be thrown out and laughed at!!!! Case in point…you have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that not only was Bin Laden(which I might add fact….that the Bin Laden family contributed billions to the Bush’s) behind the 911 attacks, but the fact that he even was alive when all this happened!!!! was he not suffering from renal(kidney) failure at the time and needed dialysis?….then they give the excuse that NORAD was called down,then its ohhh we knew but it was too late,then its my rear end that hurts…Fix news don’t insult the intelligence of the American people.
September 5th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Give it up, Truther. No one reads your post! They just skip over it since you post it in every comment section on this site.
September 5th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Who Cares
September 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Print some of these and hand them out. I handed them out outside the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock. I put them on windshields outside VFW’s and American Legion’s. Walk the streets and hand them out. It is concise and very effective for waking people up. Give them the red pill.
http://www.thegoodseed.com/Wha.....On%209.pdf
September 6th, 2009 at 2:00 am
…not as much as did John (sack of cement) Kerry himself… and the notorious (make a wish foundation) e-voting machines… as mandated by George Sr.’s “Help America to Vote Act” (HAVA) of 1992. Washington computers helping local American communities count their own votes.
September 7th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
I have heard that Bin Laden has had lunch with bush a the white house before.
Sawyer Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
His brother was eating breakfast with Bush senior on the morning of 9/11/01
September 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
this has to be one of the best articles ive seen on this site. its to bad our government views the world as a playground but no one is willing to take a stand to it.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
IM ONLY POSTING HERE BECAUSE THE CHARLIE SHEEN POSTS ARE TURNED OFF.
I AM ASTOUNDED THAT, IF WITHIN 48HRS THERE IS NOT MENTION OF THIS IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA, THERE’S JUST TOO MUCH EVIDENCE NOW IT CAN NOT ALL BE REFUTED, CAN IT!?!!
THERE ARE ALSO MANY MORE POINTS TO ADD TO CHARLIE’S LIST.
THEY ARE NOW GOING TO SLAUGHTER HIM IN THE MAINSTREAM, AND PUSH WITH SOME HORRIFIC BLANKET FALSE FLAG COVER.
ANY ONE FOR BACON?
RIGHTO Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
i’ve followed up charlie’s claims and cannot refute his numbered points made. this is so fucking stupid. the fact that wtc7 was blown up in the middle of new york with no warning or barrier preperation is enough and oops – the twin towers came down as well! gosh!
THERE IS SO MUCH EVIDENCE OUT THERE. MEDIA IS BLIND, there are so many facts apparent soon the mainstream media will HAVE to report the tip of the ice burg for any credibility to remain.
i also find it interesting that the gay underage sex scandal came out on charlie at the same time which he initially ‘came out’ about 9/11.
also, the bullshit conspiracy sites out there flagged THEMSELVES by reporting on this charlie story as a HOAX completely, intentionally missing the context.
WHY WOULD OBAMA IGNORE SUCH FACTS? WHY? . . . only one answer to that, maybe 2.
RIGHTO Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
ALL the comments are off on the 9/11 charlie story and these boards are not being used?
1- calling CS’s open letter ‘very creative’ carries a tint of patronisation, insinuating to a degree that maybe his 20 points are ‘creative’ in other words – made up. lame.
IF ONLY ONE OF HIS POINTS WERE TRUE, WHICH THEY ALL, ARE, IT’S MORE THAN SERIOUS ENOUGH FOR EVERYTHING TO BE HALTED UNTILL OBAMA HAS SORTED AND LOOKED INTO IT NO HOLDS BARRED.
The fact that this IS A JOKE and known to be impossible, that OBAMA will not do this speaks so loud, so loud of evil scum, HE HAS TO DO SOMETHING.
ALL THE BARE FACTS SHOULD BE ON REPEAT BROADCAST 24/7
POINTS AND FACTS WHICH ARE NON-DEBATABLE
SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE. NOW.
RIGHTO Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND, OR CAN FATHOM – IS WHAT IT MEANS REGARDS MEDIA AND POLITICS FOR 9/11 TO BE ‘AN INSIDE JOB’.
IT MEANS GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT, CRIMINAL AND MENTALLY ILL.
IT MEANS THE MEDIA IS CONTROLLED.
IT MEANS THAT THE WARS AND EROSION OF LIBERTIES WE SEE TODAY ARE FOR NOTHING EXCEPT LIES, PROFIT AND CONTROL.
EVEN LEAVING THE MILLIONS OF SMOKING GUNS ASIDE – WTC7. THATS IT – THATS ALL THE PROOF WE NEED AND EVEN THAT IS ONLY A SMALL PART OF THE PROOF ITSELF.
WTC7
WTC7
WTC7
WTC7
WTC7
FUCKING OBVIOUSLY A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
RIGHTO Reply:
September 10th, 2009 at 10:00 am
once again I AM VERY SURPRISED at the posts which infowars have chosen to delete.
my previous post simply put forward a media-bashing example on charlie, and the second what this ‘letter’ actually shows.
NOW WHY ON EARTH WOULD INFOWARS BE DELETING SUCH POSTS, WHY??!
It really does seem as though intelligent debate and observation is rarely allowed and certainly not encouraged on the infowars comments boards.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:18 am
GOOD FOR CHARLIE SHEEN-BUT WHERE ARE ALL THE OTHER HOLLYWOOD STARS?
September 9th, 2009 at 6:01 am
“You will not solicit anyone to make donations of any kind or your post will be deleted.” — infowars.com
So if i ask for donations for people who have no home, no food, no clothes and so on on your side – you will delete my post. That means that you balk people to help others that they dont die … it could be your fellow american …
infowars.com : “Dont ask for donations because the money you have is the money we want.” …
You forbid the people to ask for donations, people who need it – sometimes to ask on websites is the last hope for them too for help. Wow Alex and his sick crew .. wow .. people like you are the reason that the world is going down … with such extrem cold dumb actions …
you dont care about America … and forbidding donations proofs this really good .. you are like american maggots .. you are spritually dead …
But dont question your false leader Alexander Jones people .. dont do that .. he dont likes it … he HATES it … he cant live with that .. and Alexander Jones would not be what he is today without your stupidity …
LOL .. what a hypocrite … people who have no money .. infowars dont want them here …
And yes – what they do here is censoring .. and even more: denying people the chance for help … and if you tolerate that .. then you have already lost ….
READ the “comment rules” – there it stands .. if your brother or sister has no money one day and he / she askes here for help then her / his comment will be deleted … LOL .. what “brave americans” run infowars … cold and dark hypocrites run the SHOW here …
but hey .. the next “moneybomb” will come and then rich and goldhungry infowars will ask you for a donation that is right … then it is okay … infowars is a perverted SHOW of freaks …
if you follow such dumb and cold orders from your fucked up sect leader Jones .. then you are right .. then your country is going down …
Fools.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:32 am
New Jewish organ theft gang busted
http://www.presstv.com/detail......id=3510203
September 9th, 2009 at 11:12 am
FIRST!
September 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Why are “comments off” on most articles on prisonplanet and infowars today, September 9, 2009?
RIGHTO Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
it helps with the hype.
lets the story make it’s impact without turd comments dissing alex and charlie.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
COMMENTS OFF – NICE, VERY NICE.
RIGHTO Reply:
September 10th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
no really what is the reason? why would you be so afraid to let people comment on such ‘important’ stories?
September 10th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
To Truther:Then why doesn’t god tell his “chosen People” to behave first!!! and be an example for the rest of the world?… If God is against homosexual behavior then why does he allow his “chosen people” to have gay parades in Jerusalem and 50,000 abortions a year which are clearly against his laws?…. sounds like hypocrisy to me!!!! more like George Bush was drunk again…not born again.The Christians in the south need to wake up and stop supporting the loser scumbag politicians.One asshole(Bush) gets out of power, another asshole(Obama) gets in.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
sorry to hurt your ego but hell does not exist outside your own mind.
it is a lie. you have been lied to.
unless you can personally prove ONE THING from that book – and i mean PROVE – then shut up sit down and/or join the que of millions claiming to know what god wants and what jesus said.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
i love the censorship on this site now you fucking liar. ALEX JONES IS TRYING TO COVERUP FOR HIS CHARLIE SHEEN FAKE INTERVIEW DEBACLE TRYING TO FOOL US INTO BELIEVING THE FAKE INTERVIEW
September 10th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Listen AJ, this is an absolutly critical turning point for your organization. By tommorow, ( friday) you MUST come up with something that will restore your cred. No one buys the lame excuses– you need to say the magic words that ring true. Come clean and you’ll save thousands that are poised to cut you permanently off. I would highly recomend a dedicated venting section; coupled with turning on the comments sections and facing the fire— the sooner-the better. It looks like you guys are hiding. You cant have that—- oh, and expect battalion-strength gummint shills when you guys finally poke your heads out of your shell.