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Climate Alarmists Finally Admit The Debate Is Not Over
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Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
Top climate alarmists have conceded that the climategate scandal represents a huge blow to the global warming movement and that the debate is not over, and yet establishment media organs are still invoking South Park’s Officer Barbrady in downplaying the story despite the fact that it clearly illustrates how evidence which directly disproves global warming is being censored by agenda-driven scientists.
The Guardian’s George Monbiot, a climate change zealot and a staunch defender of the faith, concedes that the science now needs “reanalyising” and that CRU Director Phil Jones should resign.
“It’s no use pretending that this isn’t a major blow. The emails extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging. I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I’m dismayed and deeply shaken by them,” writes Monbiot.
“Yes, the messages were obtained illegally. Yes, all of us say things in emails that would be excruciating if made public. Yes, some of the comments have been taken out of context. But there are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad. There appears to be evidence here of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom of information request.”
“Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I believe that the head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.”
Another prominent global warming alarmist, Tim Flannery, now admits that there are holes in the “science is settled” mantra.
“We’re dealing with an incomplete understanding of the way the earth system works… When we come to the last few years when we haven’t seen a continuation of that (warming) trend we don’t understand all of the factors that create earth’s climate…We just don’t understand the way the whole system works… See, these people work with models, computer modelling. So when the computer modelling and the real world data disagree you’ve got a very interesting problem… Sure for the last 10 years we’ve gone through a slight cooling trend,” said Flannery.
“And on these now-admitted uncertainties we must scrap all coal-fired generators, impose massive new taxes, shut entire industries, hand billions to the UN and change the way we live?” asks Andrew Bolt.
However, while some alarmists have embarked on a course of damage control, the establishment has closed ranks and, after failing in their efforts to float the hoax that the emails were manufactured, are now ludicrously invoking South Park’s Officer Barbrady and crying in unison, “Move along, nothing to see here!”
In an article entitled, Hacked climate e-mails awkward, not game changer, Reuters’ Timothy Gardner writes, “Revelation of a series of embarrassing e-mails by climate scientists provides fodder for critics, but experts believe the issue will not hurt the U.S. climate bill’s chance for passage or efforts to forge a global climate change deal.”
- A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Oh really? With numerous influential individuals calling for criminal investigations, and with climate alarmists themselves admitting that scientists closely affiliated with the UN IPCC exposed by the hacked emails should resign, only the wilfully naive could believe that this will not hamper the Copenhagen agenda for a global carbon tax, which was already being derailed before the scandal broke.
The latest to weigh in on the controversy was prominent skeptic Lord Monkton, who labeled the CRU scientists crooks who should be criminally prosecuted. “They are not merely bad scientists — they are crooks. And crooks who have perpetrated their crimes at the expense of British and U.S. taxpayers,” writes Monckton. “With Professor Fred Singer, who founded the U.S. Satellite Weather Service, I have reported them to the UK’s Information Commissioner, with a request that he investigate their offenses and, if thought fit, prosecute.”
The Reuters story quotes Anthony Leiserowitz, the director of the Yale Project on Climate Change, who claims there is no smoking gun contained in the emails, despite the fact that they expose how scientists used “tricks” to “hide the decline” in global temperatures.
In another email, a scientist talks about changing temperature data on a graph in order to disguise evidence of global cooling that has been in play for the last few years.
“I’ll maybe cut the last few points off the filtered curve before I give the talk again as that’s trending down as a result of the end effects and the recent cold-ish years.”
To Leiserowitz, this isn’t evidence of conspiracy, merely “embarrassment” which would “provide fodder for the 2 to 3 percent of the general public that are hard-core climate change doubters.”
In reality, polls show that a huge and growing number of both Americans and Brits are “climate change doubters.” A recent Pew Research Center survey showed that only 36 per cent of Americans believe man is to blame for climate change, whereas in Britain, “Only 41 percent accept as an established scientific fact that global warming is taking place and is largely man-made.”
Far from being a tiny minority, as Leiserowitz claims, climate change skeptics are now in the majority, as belief in global warming alarmism whittles away increasingly to the fringe.
The Reuters story also quotes Kevin Book, an analyst at ClearView Energy Partners, LLC, who characterizes the scandal as “scientists behaving badly.”
“This does nothing to the U.S. climate bill, which will be decided mostly by economic forces, not environmental ones,” said Book.
Precisely – this has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with companies like ClearView getting fat off the spoils of the climate fraud that they are intimately invested in. Obviously, to the scientists at the CRU, it has little to do with the environment either, since they are more than willing to block FOIA requests, change data and hide evidence of global cooling in order to make the science fit their agenda.
To dismiss this as “behaving badly” shows unparalleled ignorance of what science is supposed to be all about, namely empiricism, not bias and fraud, which is exactly what the global warming movement has now come to represent.
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November 24th, 2009 at 9:52 am
And I still can’t find this story on the MSM. I’m emailing and facebooking the story as much as possible to make sure people become aware of it. If enough people spread this around, the MSM will be forced to report on it.
adam Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:06 am
that makes 2 of us i i haven’t seen it on msm either.. and i thought for sure beck would of covered it to some extent..to maintain the illussion he is on our side of the fence
Julian Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Download the hacked emails and documents here,
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=003LKN94
Andy Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:37 am
thks. need this info to be out.
HighSea Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
If its true that Al Gore stated he was going to bring down the coal industry then wouldn’t it be a good idea to get THEM involved in helping expose Al Gore? In light of recent developments it could only help them to get involved.
end the fed Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
end the ipcc
Ralphie Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Soon having Gore for a last name will be like being a Hitler.
Sean Feddersen Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
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Godspeed You! Black Emperor Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Okay, global governance in lieu of the green movement, and all the despotic elements to it, is certainly something that no one should want and should ultimately dissent upon.
However, if you are vehemently anti-green, due to opposing the globalist’s who’ve hijacked the movement, it seems to create an irresponsible attitude toward pollution as a whole and promote the idea that we can consume as much as we want without there being any consequences.
The world’s resources are finite and therefore we will reach shortages as populations rise etc. no matter how much the ‘global elite’ use this to there advantage this is simple truth backed up by mathematics.
I just wish Jones’ outfit had a little more balance and responsibility in their journalistic practices and perhaps that would lend toward a larger audience to embrace some of the important messages put out here.
une monde pas Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:29 am
A century old science error by the European father of eugenics….resurrected by the One Worlders to enslave humanity….read “Strange Tale of Green House Gas Gang” for this important view of history….
babarishka Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:40 am
I haven’t seen it on Yahoo, although they posted a story yesterday about icebergs drifting towards New Zealand due to global warming. Makes me sick.
Johnny Canuck Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I think I saw that one – they’re all freaked out by an iceberg “twice the size of the Titanic”. WTF? That’s a baby iceberg fer crying out loud!!!! Now a ‘berg the size of Manhatten Island – that’d be worth noting! So far most of the Pacific Islands haven’t disappeared yet. What they have done is to cast suspicion on Climatology, Eugenics is already proving to be a false “Science”, could Climatology be next. A big blow to the Green movement, but we have to realize the Elite are now behind this game, as well. Clean house, get rid of the Bulls---ters ie: Al “I- just- make- it-up-as-I-go” Gore. I would laugh, except for this serious realization – these assholes are responsible for the demise of Earth’s environment, by refusing to fund and use new, non-oil technologies, by raping the land, oceans and polluting everything with chemicals, medical wastes, etc., for profit. Yes, even PETA is phony too, darlings! ( or is it Dupes?)
babarishka Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
True it all. They’re saving all of the alternative energy for themselves, the same as life extension technologies.
Actually, I did find the hacker article on Yahoo but it is not a featured article – I had to google it. They also downplayed the significance of it. I’m trying to post as many comments on Yahoo as I can to get the word out there. I also sent articles to Olbermann, O’Reilly and Matthews, although I don’t expect much from them (O”Reilly did do some decent exposes on cap and trade but of course, doesn’t relate it to global takeover).
Tell ya one thing, if these bastards do pass the cap and trade scam, we have to resist it any way we can, including not paying it.
roaddog6 Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
I’ve been looking too. I’m thinking this won’t come out in msm. Just like the hemorrhagic story.
JMR firebird Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
AGW or not, its Hamburger time for all of us! WE”RE DOOMED!! Save us Messiah!!
fred nerk Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
I found it on MSM in Aus{ABC} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4VKrBtUcQY
ArrestAlGore Reply:
November 25th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
everyone join this group to arrest al gore already!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=211276412159
November 24th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Now the shoe is on the other foot.
We are NOT willing to debate with crooks and therefore we win by default.
Copenhagen is DOA.
You violated the rules and must resign and wait another 20 years for debate.
Use the same idealogy they use on investigating Kennedy or 9/11 approach.
And for national security it is best they just take their 23 Trillion they have stolen and flee the country.
After Ron Paul kicks their asses. There will be a mob with ropes waiting for them outside the hearings!!!
TheyFeedOnHate Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
We must now attack these crooks with lawsuits.
Find a lawyer and start litigation aginst them.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Climategate, Watergate, Beergate, Weedgate, and now Warmingate. What about Beardgate? Why do others have to have all the fun and not us beards? I am sending out a general alert to all the beards worldwide to start forming neighborhood Beardgate tea parties! Don’t forget the Swine flu! http:/flureports.blogspot.com
November 24th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I am new here and I love this site! Kudos! I have a question? How do you get the pretty icons to appear next to your name? Is there a signup procedure to register to get it? Thanks.
babarishka Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I think it’s a site called Gravatar. It seems to apply the icon no matter what site your on. It’s probably harmless but I don’t use it as I’m an older guy with relatively little computer experience and I’m paranoid about some stuff (like I would never go on Twitter or Facebook)!!!!!!!!!! Probably just my computer ignorance showing.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:23 am
I am new here and I love this site! Kudos! I have a question? How do you get the pretty icons to appear next to your name? Is there a signup procedure to register to get it? Thanks.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:28 am
It’s hard to read all this with a straight face. I do recall, back in 1998, when Kieth Hansen, Chief of Goddard Space Center at NASA, declared “warming is an absolute emergency,” –and so, (like ‘Peak Oil,) thus the International Taxation-plan was born.
But, the bottom-line is this: Not one single Congressperson, Democ-rat, Repug, Whig, or Tory, should receive any more public compensation for their so-called (ass-kissing) ’services.’
broken arrow Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:43 am
AMEN To that!
November 24th, 2009 at 10:28 am
The crooks have mainstream media on their side. Just browsing through some online news sites yesterday and the story had allready left the pages.
Instead there was some headliners like; “THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS HERE!”, “WE HAVE SHIFTED FROM BELIEVING IN A GRADUALLY CLIMATE CHANGE, TO A SUDDEN CHANGE!”
In other words, this can be their new strategy, this theory dismiss all scientific data they have so carefully presented over the last years, to BANG! The climate change just hit us..hm. This theory stinks even more than all the stinking rotten lies they have presented so far. And the mainstream media are ready to dance.
My God, I hope we are able to get a hold of the people behind this stinking factory of lies, and give them a full treatment of tar and feathers, before they meet the judge on judgement day.
November 24th, 2009 at 10:31 am
1.) Chemtrails
2.) Fluoride
3.) the Federal Reserve
…We want to know WHY, and we want to know NOW!!!!
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Second that! I’m amazed to what extent they use chemtrails now, and people just walks on, thinking nothing. It can be a bright sunny day, the planes starts spraying and minutes later it’s overcast, wind and rain. Sometimes I think I’m dreaming, cause no one else seems to get it. And there is nothing to see about this subject on mainstream media.
People believe they get the truth from mainstream media, if it’s not there, it’s nothing to speak about. Somtimes I feel like grabbing someone and shake them real hard and force them to look at the sky, while I lecture them on what’s going on.. I might just do that some day
Poisoned Paycheck Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Maybe TV weather forecasters are from the same bloodlines as the psychopathic bankers. What kind of ‘human’ could lie about the blatant weather modification on camera and then watch their own children run around breathing poison in the back yard?
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Well, it beats me, for sure. I think that journalists and weather forcast men or women are limited in what they are allowed to cover. The owners of the media have a stronghold on subjects that can be aired. So, they keep quiet in order to keep their job, or they’re dumbed down like the rest of society.
Desslok Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
The former weather anchorman for my hometown had a blog for about a year on which he was entirely skeptical of man-made global warming. Notice I wrote “former”.
We approach a “brave new world” where conformity is a prerequisite for survival.
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Well, that’s the way the cookie crumbles. Thank’s for shearing
November 24th, 2009 at 11:01 am
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And good Muslims remember, ” Allah Auckbar ”
broken arrow Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Now that is funny!
Nemesis Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I think MECCA GPS would be better suited. Then we can triangulate their positions more accurately.
November 24th, 2009 at 11:11 am
*****
Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life
By ARIEL DAVID (AP) – 14 hours ago
11-10-09
VATICAN CITY — E.T. phone Rome. Four hundred years after it locked up Galileo for challenging the view that the Earth was the center of the universe, the Vatican has called in experts to study the possibility of extraterrestrial alien life and its implication for the Catholic Church.
“The questions of life’s origins and of whether life exists elsewhere in the universe are very suitable and deserve serious consideration,” said the Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, an astronomer and director of the Vatican Observatory.
Funes, a Jesuit priest, presented the results Tuesday of a five-day conference that gathered astronomers, physicists, biologists and other experts to discuss the budding field of astrobiology — the study of the origin of life and its existence elsewhere in the cosmos.
http://www.google.com/hostedne.....AD9BSTO1G1
___________
After the vatican and the high priests finally Figure Out that they:
” Are Not God’s Representatives on Earth ”
They now start looking for ” Alien Life ” in the Universe…
BTW
In case you don’t get it yet, Nasa is pulling the same type of Grand Scale Scam
as Bernie Madoff did.
The Type of Scam that Bernie Madoff Pulled is called a ” Confidence Scam ” He
represented himself as “the inside/know it all/big money connection”
The Type of Scam that NASA is Pulling is called ” The Intellectual Scam ” Nasa has
the American People hoodwinked into believing their scam crap lies because they Posture
themselves as ” We Are The Intellectuals ” They Know it All, and No One Knows Anything
except Nasa.
BTW Russia is Not Fooled By Nasa’s Bologna ” Intellectual Scam ” The Russians know
that Nasa did not go to moon in the Apollo Program. The Russians know that Nasa is scamming the American citizens. Also, Nasa will have to Depend on Russia to even Reach
the International Space station very soon, because of the retirement of the aging Shuttle
Program.
Anyone who still believes Nasa is not lying and pulling the ” Intellectual Scam ” for Billions
of the Tax Payers Dollars – Here’s your answer: Take A Look At Where YOU Are Living,
and Now Take A Look at Where the Nasa’s Inside Billionaire Scam Crowd are Living !!!
Now do you ” Get It ” ???
BTW -
The Top Government Echelons of Nations ” Keep Other Nations Secrets ”
That is How They All Stay In Power in their Own Lands – Every Government
around the World pull Similar Types of Scams on their own People. That is
How they Keep and Maintain Power & Control over their own people. They all
communicate at their Top Level G-8 and G-20 Meetings etc. etc. etc.
Is the picture getting clearer now… ???
**********
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Well, Rome is a big scam itself, a shame that many who believe in this scam, also believe in whatever the pope says. Rome is in fact a satanist religion when the core is exposed
November 24th, 2009 at 11:27 am
I hate to post Fox News links, but what the hell, it is a slow day.
http://www.foxnews.com/politic…..te-dinner/
Top Republican Lawmakers Not Invited to Obama’s First State Dinner
FOXNews – 50 minutes ago
by The Washington Times Among others, the president didn’t invite his 2008 campaign rival, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, even though Obama the candidate pledged a post-partisan presidency.
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Page cannot be found. Hm.. strange, it looks like a valid link you posted. I often experience this on news websites. I see something I’d like to study closer, bookmark it, but when trying to follow the link, the article is gone. Possibible they published something out of line for the owners
November 24th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
“Debate”? Why debate?
The facts are what we need to look at, not ‘debate’.
Debate is interminably long, and useless, allows for false conclusions.
Just the facts, m’am.
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Because if some reasonable sane persons got in a debate in the mainstream media with those crooks, this scam had been revealed years ago. We don’t need this, but people who are dumbed down by mainstream media, need to see a debate like that.
Even a kid can see through this scam, if it wasn’t for the fact that they also got the scam into the education system, scaring kids too participate in the scam.
That’s why we are to keep pushing to get some real debating in mainstream media.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Watch Fall Of The Republic in full version and educate yourself online at: http://www.joemarquis.com/videos.htm
I took the time to build an area within my own business website where you can educate yourself by watching in Highest Quality full versions of Alex Jone’s and other’s DVD’s. A great place to start if your new or old and want to learn about the New World Order.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
i need some help to understand where those saying climate change is a fake are getting thier information from. i only recently stated delving into this and have only really got a grasp of the ‘climate change is happening’ group.
i see thier images of shrinking ice caps and glaciers and i see nothing to refute it.
where can i look for the other side of this argument?
roaddog6 Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
sea—-If you believe what the gov’t says to ya, well, thats where you’re gonna have a problem sorting out the truth. But having said that, if you read the u.n charter agenda 21 sustainable development you can read in their own words what they have in mind. There’s plenty of information online that tells the truth about global warming and how its not man made. Its all about doing your own research and homework. It won’t take long and you’ll see its a scam.
Desslok Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Start here, if you like:
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html
Desslok Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Or here:
http://www.sepp.org/publications/NIPCC_final.pdf
Sea Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
nice read that!
what i now see, is the problem with the use of the term ‘man-made’ and not so much Climate Change itself.
seems to me were closing in on the end of our current warm period towards the tipping point just before it all goes belly up and we land back in an ice-age.
Climate Change happens, that much both sides agree on.
its undeniable that theres some bad caper going on at the poles.
are we just waiting on enough ice melting to turn off the gulf stream which then heralds the next ice-age to then cool the planet and the cycle begins all over again?
or am i still waaaaay off base here?
Desslok Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
That’s still theoretical, but from what I’ve read, as likely a scenario as any. It could be this century, it could be 5000 years from now, but we are already overdue to enter another ice age, based on phytoplankton ice core data. The cycles are believed to be based on an interaction between the solar cycles and earth’s ecosystem. But again, we’re talking theories, not proven facts. CO2 happens to be more of an outcome, than a cause, of global warming. We may have some impact on climate, but the science suggests it is negligible.
Desslok Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I should also point out that there is fossilized record of vegetation on the shores of Antarctica carbon dated to around 4000 BC. That’s just 6000 years ago, during the middle of this warm period. In addition, there are many glaciers and ice shelves at the poles which are currently growing, rather than shrinking. So all of this hoopla about iceburgs and glacial melt and oceanic salinity turning off the oceanic conveyor belt (gulf stream) is probably just being used by alarmists to freak everyone out. It’s plausible theory which makes for a huge industry (carbon tax, hollywood, “green” movement). But there is absolutely no evidence that curbing carbon emissions will have any impact on the climate whatsoever.
Desslok Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
It’s great to come across someone looking for the truth. Keep your mind open and keep researching. There’s a ton of information out there. It will help you to also note who funded the research. I have found that Al Gore, Hadley, UN, IPCC, and NOAA have already proven to be untrustworthy sources of information (they’ve all been caught misleading the public). When you come across information, look also for the opposing arguments. And when you’re comfortable with the information you get, share with others so that we can fight against the lies spread by main stream media.
Sea Reply:
November 25th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
its extremely frustrating at the same time, all the misinformation being spread, the lies and the deceipt.
why cant they just tell us the bloody truth for once, were not in kindergarden. Mans greed has sooo much to answer for. while we have an world based on profit there will be no honesty or caring for each other.
ive walked a very strange path this last week, from anger to sadness to frustration to not caring anymore thinking whats the point..
getting my head around it all…
thanks for taking the time to respond man
Peace!
November 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
If you read Monbiot’s linked whole article it has a spoof email about conspiracists that makes me wonder if this scandle has drivien him around the bend. What a odd response he has given.
Spread the info. Resistance is victory.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Don’t forget about the Palestinians and their resistance to American and Israeli terror in Gaza.
Please take the time to watch this video and spread the word. The disinformation has to stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkgWGX5Ap_E
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Sorry, but that’s off topic. That issue is yet another to divide the world in different directions, while the elite is luthing our countries and getting rich on weapon sales etc.
Stay on the topic and try to focus on how we can get this scam to be debated in the mainstream media.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Hello all,
We can all understand what is going on here. Do they think we are foolish?
We all must stand together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OulwMZmhWow
Regards
November 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
This debate has been ‘ended around’ with them having the upper hand
because the damage from plane spraying is not being discussed.
The infowar will be lost without discussion on the constant spraying over the last 3 years.
over 38,200 of eyewitness videos of sky spraying
http://www.youtube.com/results.....=&aq=f
man made weather change is happening = it’s called stratospheric aerosols (or chemtrails)
November 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
it appears the spinmaster are already trying to spin this
November 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Would it not be strange were there no climate change?
November 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
No, the weather changes in places that matters. I live in the south of Norway, also the place in Norway were the weather is known to be nice. In the later years it’s happened more and more often that the summers went down the drain, due to heavy rain.
At the same time, I happened to record more and more chemtrail attacs above my head. We, who live in this part of the country is according to gallups, more sceptichal to the term of man made climate change.
So, what I say is, they are targeting areas with chemtrails to cause bad weather. And the population will gradually say, that this is not normal, maybe the climate change is real? As long as mainstream media keeps on lying and not covering issues like chemtrails, the average people never finds out.
The key to all of this, is to get some real stuff out on the mainstream channels, or to get people to turn to websites like this.
Desslok Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Climate change is real, natural, and necessary for life. While local weather might be influenced by cloud seeding, let’s not draw conclusions on global climate cycles (which take 110,000-130,000 years) based on limited observations we’ve made over a couple of decades. Look to links I posted above for some honest science.
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
No, but they do this to change weather conditions. We all know that people are mislead to merge weather and climate.
So what are the chemtrails for, if not manipulating the weather? It costs billions, but the outcome will be trillions, and not to forget, world governace.
Madman Reply:
November 25th, 2009 at 10:26 am
lobal warming is one thing, but chemtrails??? Seriously! Go do a course on weather and another course on aviation and turbines and then try and hold onto your beliefs about chemtrails. Mainstream media doesn’t take it seriously because it’s crap.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
hang them all, the liars! hang em high! start with gore!
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
No, don’t hang ‘em, please. Let me have the tar and feathers treatment first, please?
November 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Climate is change is real. Even though this research was falsified, there is still no question we need to be kinder to the earth to preserve it for future generations.
steelman Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
And off cause climate change is real, what made the ice cap covering the northern hemisphere start melting, about 10000 years ago?
gary Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
monkeys farting co2
roaddog6 Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
of course climate change is real. it cycles.
Rays Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Wow, Sand, climate change is rea? No s%^& sherlock. You see..there is a thing called seasons..fall, summer, and winter. The climate uhm changes when the seasons change. I know, I know, i am a radical.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Alex Jones’ Handler – Confirmed Mossad Agent Adnan Khashoggi
by Chewbacca Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008
http://houston.indymedia.org/n...../64559.php
Khashoggi owns the Genesis Communications Network which syndicates the Alex Jones Show. Jones — a central figure in the “9/11 Truth” movement — advocates of the theory that the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks were government produced hoaxes. Jones also filmed the “Cremation of Care” ceremony at Bohemian Grove in 2000.
“Through its relationship with Saudi Arabian billionaire Adnan Khashoggi, who had been recruited as an agent,* the Mossad knew another Saudi who was a legitimate European arms dealer. He had the rights to supply Uzis and other weapons to the private market in Europe. The plan was to get Khashoggi’s friend to provide the necessary U.S.-made arms to fill Arafat’s order. They would, of course, be presented as having been stolen from various stockpiles at European military bases.
At this time, Mossad katsa Daniel Aitan, using the cover name Harry Stoler, contacted Isam Salem, Arafat’s man in East Berlin. Arafat had not even asked him to get the weapons yet, but thanks to Kasim’s ongoing communications, the Mossad knew he would soon do so and decided to get in one step ahead.
The German-speaking Aitan, a straightforward individual, presented himself to Salem as “Harry Stoler,” a businessman who dealt in what he referred to as “various equipment and materials.” Most important of all, he told Salem, he could guarantee good prices and secure delivery. Stoler also told Salem that while he avoided getting into politics, he thought the Palestinian cause was just, and he hoped to see them succeed.
They made another appointment to meet. Even though Salem was PLO and so considered dangerous, they knew he was not involved in terrorist activities in Europe. The katsa’s safety was therefore not in question, and, indeed, Salem fell for the pitch completely.
At the next discreet meeting — called “a meeting in four eyes,” or just the two of them — Stoler mentioned that from time to time he learned of “stray equipment” from U.S. military bases in Germany — items with a short-term life on the outside. He said he could also take orders for such “back door” deliveries if Salem was interested.”
JJ Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
There is no tie at all there.
1- What you or the article trying to say is such as, that when we/he/she use a IBM (holocaust) brand computer, your working for them.
2nd – The information at the source could be disinfo written by NWO puppets. But that doesn’t mather, see 1.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
How charitable of them? Actually, yes it is over. The chief research group just got caught completely faking their most important data. If the other researchers were being honest, how on Earth did they come up with similar numbers?
Climate change just suffered it’s fatal wound, kinda like with the fed audit, it’s going to take a few years to figure out that it’s dead.
November 24th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
The jig is up, George Monbiot. Your sickening world government is dead on arrival. The main excuse for world government was global warming. Now there is no reason to create a world govenrment. World government sat on the wall. World government had a great fall. All the UN’s minions and all Rockefellers men Couldn’t put world government back together again …
November 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Sachs will figure out another scheme to charge on a per credit basis for something else. If its not CO2, then maybe internet bandwidth usage….. they won’t let this stumbling block get them down.
http://www.hardrite.com
November 24th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
these people were set to put the whole world in such a mess. whole industries, whole economies, whole technologies, private lives, systems of all kind, infrastructure, laws, money flow, people making decisions every day, people making decisions for the future, the whole whole whole planet was to change because of LIES!!!. these people should be treated like war criminals of the worse kind! the magnitude of what they where up to and what would of come out if they succeeded is unbelievable!!!
Desslok Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I’ve seen no indication that they’ll abandon their agenda. They’ll do everything they’ve been planning to do. They’re just meeting frantically now to figure out how to handle all the anger. I won’t be surprised at all if there’s a huge news event very soon to provide the distraction they need before their copenhagen meeting.
roaddog6 Reply:
November 24th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
thats what I’m thinking too.
November 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Sorry folks…have u ever heard about the f---ing reptilians? If u haven´t researched yet,you should!
They were seen in a Cairo subway construction excavation site ,and the workers rushed to tell Egypts president…and the president said : hurry up and shut that hole and you better don´t let those humanoids with tails in the tunels see u guys , otherwise we r going to have some damn problems.
Believe or not this beens control more than u can imagine buddy….real conspiracy s--- hole !!!
Good luck to all of us and god bless u
November 24th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NOT OVER? I TOLD YOU I TOLD YOU DUMB SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREAT JOB LORD ALEX!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
LOOOOOOOOOOL<its only 1998 really dude!
November 24th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Remember ! In Revelations. The Second time the Beast is described it is without it’s wings. This is just the beginning of the end for these greedy bastards !
November 24th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
And you sir are a treasonous scumbag who spends all day digitizing senseless pictures in order to prop up his own pathetic ego and to be paid a few worthless shekels to disrupt innumerable patriotic citizens in their quest to rescue their childrens’ chance to breathe free. In lieu of an honest assessment of your life, you might consider volunteering for combat duty so that the gods of chance can have an even shot at settling your hash.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:11 am
See what happens to alarmists alex
people get tired of listening
to the (your) BS
November 25th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Rothschild says….Excellllennnnt….You boy’s have all been working overtime again I see …….Wonderful…….I have some nice cold lemon aid for you boy’s …..and a special bonus check in your Luxembourg account…. Like I always say “Thou cam’st on earth to make the earth my hell”…..???>..322
November 25th, 2009 at 7:24 am
We had an earth climate teacher at Catonsville Community College ranting this stuff in 1995. That much of America would no to be able to grow food and the US would be a desert and under water and all this s---.
November 25th, 2009 at 10:02 am
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December 5th, 2009 at 11:06 am
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