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  • Clinton Comeback: Courtesy of Diebold

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    Bill Noxid
    March 6, 2008

    election politics   Clinton Comeback: Courtesy of Diebold
    Atlanta
      Once again we are supposed to believe that it was the leaked memo, or the red phone ad, or buyer’s remorse or some other such nonsense. In reality however, she won for the same reason George Bush has been president for eight years. She won because this country still uses Diebold and ES&S voting machines that have time and again altered the outcome of our elections. I don’t think I can say it any clearer than that.

    It’s unfortunate that the American people still just don’t understand. It’s hard to watch them be so easily swayed by the endless mainstream nonsense while the truth is right in front of them. It’s by design of course, and the perpetrators have had a lot of practice at this.

    Granted, this has been an ugly Democratic Primary season. I’ve seen things come out of the Clinton campaign that I would have never expected, and surely I’m disappointed. I would have hoped that the Clinton’s would have had more respect for the positive direction that the majority of the country is determined to take, rather than the pursuit of “winning” by any means. The fact that the Republicans have gleefully done all they can to ensure Hillary continues this behavior should be a clear indication of what side she is benefiting.

    However, this is not why she won three of the four March 4th contests. Once again we are supposed to believe that it was the leaked memo, or the red phone ad, or buyer’s remorse or some other such nonsense. In reality however, she won for the same reason George Bush has been president for eight years. She won because this country still uses Diebold and ES&S voting machines that have time and again altered the outcome of our elections. I don’t think I can say it any clearer than that.

    The challenge in demonstrating this reality is finding some kind baseline or control factor for comparison. These machines have all but replaced actual vote counting in this country which makes it incredibly difficult to find any measure of truth. In my last writing on Diebold ( which I suggest you read ), the fact that so many hand-counted districts were right next to Accuvote districts made the discrepancies glaringly apparent.

    Although we don’t have a comparable arrangement in this case, we do have similar components. We have touch-screen counted votes and hand counted votes, but we also have something entirely new. In fact this new factor is ( as far as I’m concerned ) the definitive evidence.

    Let’s start with Rhode Island. Unfortunately, the state is entirely touch-screen voting. No real paper trail, and no chance of arguing with the machine. However I will point this out. If you exclude the imaginary results we’ve been given, this margin in Rhode Island coincides nicely with the margins we have seen consistently over the previous 11 contests. 58% – 40% is an Obama margin we’ve seen repeatedly.

    To illustrate that point, let’s look at Vermont. Here we have an almost identical margin ( 59% – 39% ) except this time it is for Obama. The difference in this state – as you might expect – is that Vermont uses hand counted ballots in the majority of it’s municipalities.

    The Texas two-step gives a look at both machine count and hand count. The primary in Texas is all machine count and it gives the win to Clinton 51% – 47%. However the caucus results ( hand count ) reflect the opposite and then some ( 56% – 44% Obama ).

    But without question, the Ohio results are by far the most interesting. Although this superficially looks like an across the board win, there is a fascinating hidden story. It’s rare that I get to point to champions for democracy and I’m quite pleased to have the opportunity to do so here. Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner and Jane Platten ( director of the Cuyahoga County elections board ) undoubtedly walked through the fires of hell to implement the paper ballot plan and I’m extremely glad that they did. Because of their incredible efforts there is some data about the Ohio elections that can actually be trusted, and I have something legitimate to work with.

    The story of this plan is a fascinating one. As you may recall Cuyahoga County in Ohio has been the location of a number of election problems over the years. Just last year, two election workers were convicted of rigging a recount of the 2004 presidential election, and in May 2006, election results were delayed five days while absentee ballots were hand-counted due to a “printing error”.

    The plan to abandon touch-screen and switch to verifiable paper ballots has been progressing since Dec. 21, 2007 when Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner broke a 2-2 deadlocked election board vote regarding the change.

    In an effort to put an end to the horrific election problems of the past, Director Platten implemented several changes to the way votes are handled. To prevent absentee ballot problems for instance Platten had all of the absentee ballots counted and stored on hard disk prior to election day. To ensure the integrity of those ballots, the disk was stored in a safe, monitored by security cameras, and guarded by a Sheriff’s deputy 24 hours a day until polls closed on the 4th. Contrast this with the embarrassing display of ballot custody in New Hampshire and the empty ballot boxes scattered on the floor.

    “There are a lot more controlled environments now in place based on what we’ve learned from past experiences,” said Platten.

    What is most interesting is who surfaced in opposition to this new system and their supposed “reasoning” for their objections. I can only imagine how many people this was upsetting to ( because of the totality of established vote control in Ohio ) but the surrogate used to stop this move to a real voting system was the ACLU.

    CLEVELAND (AP) Jan 18, 2007 — The American Civil Liberties Union asked a federal judge on Monday to block the March 4 presidential primary in Ohio’s biggest county if it switches to a paper ballot system that doesn’t allow voters to correct errors.

    In a follow-up to a suit it filed Jan. 17, the ACLU of Ohio asked for a preliminary injunction against any election in Cuyahoga County if the switch is made.

    The lawsuit argued that the proposed paper-ballot system would violate voters’ constitutional rights because it doesn’t allow them to correct errors on ballots before they are cast.

    election politics   Clinton Comeback: Courtesy of Diebold
    election politics   Clinton Comeback: Courtesy of Diebold
    election politics   Clinton Comeback: Courtesy of Diebold

    “The evidence is overwhelming that when voters do not have access to technology that notifies them of ballot errors, many more ballots are left uncounted,” said Meredith Bell-Platts, a voting-rights attorney with the ACLU.

    What an astonishing argument for the ACLU to make. Here we have the American Civil Liberties Union claiming that voters are too stupid to tell if they are filling out the right circle and that the only resolution is a machine to tell them who they voted for. Yet over a concern for the voter’s ability to “correct” a ballot error, they ask a judge to prevent the county from voting at all.

    Jennifer Brunner also noted this would rule out the use of absentee ballots period, since those voters wouldn’t have the opportunity to check their ballot before they were counted either.

    Thankfully, U.S. District Judge Kathleen O’Malley denied the ACLU’s injunction request and Platten’s plan was allowed to proceed. In the short amount of time that was available before the primary ( and the amount of time wasted by the ACLU ) only two counties actually got the paper ballot systems implemented… Those were Cuyahoga and Franklin counties.

    Franklin County was also under assault to prevent the use of paper ballots. Judge Eric Brown ( D ) from Franklin County Common Pleas Court lifted Judge Richard E. Parrott’s ( R ) restraining order against Brunner that prevented her from ordering the use of paper ballots.

    So I retell all of this to illustrate a very simple point. Someone seriously did not want a system that actually counted and secured votes to be implemented in Ohio, and they tried very hard to prevent it… Let’s see why they went to so much trouble.

    On the day of the primary, only Cuyahoga and Franklin County were actually prepared. The rest of the counties were instructed to also offer paper ballots but there are a number of reports indicating otherwise. During the day however, two other districts had significant machine problems and thus used a portion of paper ballots. Those counties were Montgomery and Delaware. Additionally Hamilton County already used paper ballots that ( previously ) were scanned locally instead of the new centralized system.

    As you can see from the map, the only counties where Obama won are also the counties that had secured, centrally counted, paper ballots.

    Ohio

    So here we are once again with a situation we’ve seen several times before. Underneath the smokescreen of the kitchen sink strategy we see the real problem. Once again ( when viewing all four contests ), the machine vote goes to Hillary and the paper ballot ( or hand count ) goes to Obama. The fact that Hillary’s actions and reactions have coincided so seamlessly with the Republican, Rovian, Limbaughvian philosophy and tactics, could actually lead one to question if it is coordinated.

    I’m not suggesting it is. The people who are in control of our election system probably don’t want Hillary to be president any more than they want Barack to be. It doesn’t bother them one bit however watching the Democratic race degenerate into a hate fest and anything that will slow the vote momentum or make people feel “hopeless” is a good thing to them.

    So before anyone questions whether I wear a tin foil chapeau, ask yourself why United Technologies Corporation is so determined to purchase Diebold ( a company currently under investigation by the DOJ and SEC ) before election day. You can bet Charlie Black ( McCain’s Campaign Director and lobbyist for United Technologies ) has a very good reason for this arrangement.

    So once again, I beg you to pay attention to the puppet masters and don’t be lead astray by their fake arguments and explanations. Instead of playing into Republican hands and wasting energy on infighting, the Democratic Party needs to unite and ensure that these machines don’t steal another election from under the American nose. The world desperately needs us to wake up and take this country from rulers that have oppressed and lied to us all.

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    25 Responses to “Clinton Comeback: Courtesy of Diebold”

    1. Mike Kitchen Says:

      Well… all I can say is this: If the last eight years weren’t enough to wake people up… the next four years are going to be the ultimate bucket of ice water to the face.

      If the dollar is going to collapse – then we need to replace it with a Liberty Dollar, rather than an Amero Dollar.

      If the media is going to continue to be this absurd – then we need to become the media ourselves.

      If votes are going to be stolen – then we need to put those criminals in jail and make them PAY!

      Vote Ron Paul for President.
      Or barring that – vote Ralph Nader.

      Just keep hammering away with that sludge hammer…
      If enough of us do… this wall is going to come down.

    2. Anon Says:

      She is giving us her Vichyist salute. Heil, Hitlary.

    3. LaughOutLoud Says:

      The guy that owns Diebold is a conservative Republican. The idea that conservative Republicans are conspiring to elect Hillary Clinton seems unlikely.

    4. Kevin St.Onge Says:

      Conspiracy theories arise about government activities when those activities are not made as transparent as possible by the government. I am 100% uncertain about any electronic voting fraud conspiracies, but I am certain that these voting machines should have more transparency and some physical redundancy to verify the results if independent exit-polling reveals statistically significant discrepancies.
      Something else that I am certain about is that this country is being divided against itself–why would a ‘republican/conservative’ corporation conspire to elect a democrat? Perhaps to perpetuate the political divisions that turn Americans against each other–give the dem’s a chance in Washington once in a while to make the republicans angry.. give the republicans a chance in Washington once in a while to make the dem’s angry.
      I don’t think we need a conspiracy to divide us… political rhetoric does that all by itself. What we need is to abandon politics and our Republican form of government entirely and pursue the emergence of a massively collaborative system of self governance.

    5. Howard Says:

      I cannot stand this repulsive woman. Most people whom have any intuition can see that this is an evil woman. Her and her billy boy arrangement have partnered crimes worse than Bonnie and Clyde and have gotten away with it because they are protected by the Elite( for the time being). This woman is a Jezebel. Come on! Clinton’s in the white house again? When are Americans going to wake up to these criminals. Anyone who is close to them, ends up prematurely dead. (Clinton Chronicles). Hilliary Clinton headed up the Waco massacre where 24 children were murdered in a preset fire by the FBI. Four of Bill Clinton’s bodyguard’s were murdered by a bullet hole in the back of the head behind the left ear. All four were murdered in the same way on the same day at Waco. They want her in( The Elite) because when things really go sour in this country, she will not have any compunction in doing the fascist atrocities they have planned for us.

    6. marlboro man Says:

      Those DAM MACHINES are the whole problem we can,t get a fair election !!!You ever notice when the polls show RON PAUL moving up all of a sudden here comes McLAME out of no where ? Here in FL just before the vote he couldn,t have gotten more than a 100,000 votes?RON PAUL signs were every where you went///and he only got 63,000 votes ???When you would have 3,5,8. hundred at ralleys ???And a Mc CAIN couldn,t get 2 hundred???DIEBOLD DIEBOLD the only way that this can happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    7. LizardKing Says:

      We ARE at war! By not fighting back, we are destined to LOSE! PLEASE SOMEBODY!!! Please stand up and be willing to act as our general on the front lines of battle! Forget the police, court system, US military, congress, and the presidential administration! They long ago abandoned us! We need to organize and ACT!!!

      March in DC for Ron Paul. It will most likely be on the Forth of July. (http://ronpaulmarch.com/) That, I think, would be a good start. We need to be as visible as possible in order to attract enough support to Win!

      They are rigging elections. They are fluoridating our water. They are spraying us with chemtrails. They are spying on us. They are robbing the middle class and giving the proceeds to the richest one tenth of one percent. They have complete control over your property AND your family. You are losing your liberties, your rights, YOUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!!!

      PLEASE! DO SOMETHING!

    8. dan Says:

      forget waking people up…. its not gonna happen until its too late… we are gonna have to bleed to restore the republic!

    9. Private Eyes Says:

      When will you realize?

      Your votes do not matter!

      If you are going to Die, then DIEBOLD!

      Stop whining and being non-compliant!

      ID offer: 50 credits will be added to each ID until Sept 11 2008!

    10. 1 Patroit Says:

      These facist scum billyboy the pr ck got rid of 100000 in toledo when he came and asked for help on his goddam bridge of america to put nafta in to move jobs to china marcy kaptur stood by and let it happen gov sonofabitch bush relation said yah lets do it all jobs gone got laid off 6 years from that these scum are brainwashed from nazi germany many of them are old enough maybe homeschooled by hitler.CLINTONS could not got any votes from toledo

    11. Gabriel A. King Says:

      Speaking of vote fraud, just last night the local corporate media here in Colorado Springs said a survey had been conducted showing that the results yeilded from voting machines was far more accurate than that of hand counted paper ballots.
      Of course this is just bullshit fed from the top to placate the stupid sheeple. The absense of a paper trail is a clear indication of chicanery. And those who promote this garbage as truth own the politicians, judges, and the corporate media.
      If these candidates really wanted to beat each other, then why not talk about “The Clinton Chronicles”, Obamas support of a UN gun ban, and McChicanerys long and illustrious career as the bungling overpriveleged son of an Admiral (www.Vietnam veterans against John McCain.com)?
      This is not an election, it’s a puppet show. All 3 serve the eye of the seclorum.

    12. sskid Says:

      CLINTON got rid of 100000 jobs in toledo NAFTA CAFTA CLINTON knows they can pull off what ever they want and the MEDIA will go along with them

    13. ACL Says:

      Listen and listen good America, Hilary, Obama or McCain. All 3 of these selected finalist puppets are all there to follow the Elite’s agenda no matter which of these criminlas will be your next President. You are being all played like a fiddle. Too bad you don’t know it yet. But, rest assured that you will soon.

    14. Adam [UK] Says:

      “Granted, this has been an ugly Democratic Primary season. I’ve seen”

      Lookwhen is it not ugly
      please pull another string…

      WE KNOW

      Nothing you can do now tho

    15. Rob Argento Says:

      I remember it well. The year was 1995. The place was sunny San Jose, California — the heartland of Silicon Valley The setting was the second floor of 2040 Fortune Drive, global headquarters for LiveWorks, a Xerox New Enterprise Company. We were a PARC spin-off and we were pioneers in big-screen collaboration technologies. And It was the dawn of the Internet boom.

      But we weren’t talking about collab tech or the Internet on that particular day. We were talking about computerized election balloting. And I thought it was just a dandy of an idea. But everybody else thought it stunk…Not for the reason you would ever have dreamed of, though.

      They had plenty of objections. They said you couldn’t trust the government’s computers. Who knew what they might program them to do? Government insiders might program the things to fix the results that would keep them or their anointed inside. And once you had computerized ballot boxes hooked up to the Internet there’d me manifold opportunity for “hackers” to intercept and muck with the electronic tallies. So whether at the nodes or at the servers, the government would easily be able to cook the books. And the rest of us would just have to buy it.

      But we never, ever would have dreamed of the way things actually turned out: the government sold ballot processing to private companies who then claimed intellectual property rights on the code that processes the ballot tallies. UNBELIEVABLE! Public elections had been privatized. And even more ridiculous, from the technology point of view, was that the electorate actually believed Diebold and company when they said they don’t know how to give us a paper audit trail. Oh really? The gas pumps have been printing paper receipts for longer than I can remember but Diebold can’t figure out a way to make their boxes print a ballot receipt?

      So I don’t know which is more sillyConValley: the government solving the 9/11 crime within three hours of having not begun an investigation or the government selling our elections to Diebold and the like who can’t figure out how to give us a paper audit trail?

      Well it’s just more food for blogging at http://www.sillyConValley.net

    16. Bill Says:

      Think about it, who really is the power elite in the democratic party. I;ll give you a clue,i t’s not Obama.

    17. Blacksmith Says:

      We are living in the age of FIAT information, where it’s value can be inflated and reduced at the same time, depending upon how the books are cooked.

      This is a no brainer. If they can create fiat money out of thin air, and then reduce it’s value with inflation, then they most certainly can create fiat voting results.

      In the case of 9/11 we got a fiat investigation, where the value of the evidence was raised and lowered on behalf of those that want things their way.

      If Osama is actually real, we could not be doing any worse than if we changed our Constitution and elected him as president.

      Great job guys, great job.

    18. Tom Says:

      Simply put: to ensure honest elections and that everyone’s vote is counted and accounted for, we need to preserve and keep the paper and pen method of voting; it is time-tested and has worked for us for over 200 years; no need to fix it if it ain’t broke..

    19. Quispe Says:

      Ahwwww, But paper balloting kills trees!!! What are the environmentalists going to say?!!! Think of all the rain forests and native people we’ll be killing. Maybe someday when people go to vote, they be asked if they want paper or plastic.

    20. CAPTAIN AMERICA Says:

      PLEASE – WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP… WHY DONT YOU DO AN ARTICLE ON THE FRAUD GOING ON BY THE OBAMA- FREAKS THAT FLEW IN FORM NEW YORK TO COMMIT FRAUD IN TEXAS?

      LOOK, THE “OBVIOUS” SHOWS FRAUD — OBAMA WINS WHITE STATES?, THAT EVEN FORMER WHITE DEM. CANDIDIATES DIDNT WIN?…DO YOU REALY EXPECT ANYONE TO BELIEVE HE HONESTLY WON IDAHO, UTAH AND NEBRASKA ?? i SAY ITS BLATANT FRAUD — EVERYTHING ABOUT OBAMA = FRAUD; FROM RESCOE TO HIS FRAUDULANT WHITE HATING CHURCH.

      FINALLY, WINNING A CAUCAUS IS NOT WINNING THE POPULAR VOTE – ONLY A PRIMARY IS THE POPULAR VOTE. IF OBAMA GETS THE NOM -EXPECT 4 MORE YEARS OF REPUBLICANS…IF HILLARY PUTS HIM ON THE TICKET, SHE WILL DEFINITELY LOSE … WAKE UP — YOU ARE LIVING IN FANTASY LAND — BARACK WILL NEVER BEAT MCCAIN

    21. whatairver Says:

      Write your congressmen and tell them to support the Confidence in Voting Act of 2008. If airlines can let you immediately print your boarding pass from a kiosk machine in the airport when you buy your ticket, there is no excuse not to be able to print a receipt from the voting machine that shows who you voted for, a running count with time and a number given that you can check against a registry of voters to make sure your vote counted.

    22. Vickie Karp Says:

      Confidence in Voting Act should be called “Voter Con” act. Adding a paper trail to machines which can be hacked to record the vote differently inside the black box than the paper trail indicates = worthless, fake “solution”. See http://www.blackboxvoting.org for Hursti hacks in Emery County, Utah; and Red Team reports on all major e-voting systems on website of California Secretary of State Debra Bowen. See the website for our book, “HACKED! High Tech Election Theft in America – 11 Experts Expose the Truth”. http://www.hackedelections.com .

      The real solution: Hand counted paper ballots with enhanced security measures; with citizens running elections and monitoring and counting the votes; with videocameras on the ballot boxes at all times and on the counting process; and with totals posted at the precinct level.

      Nothing less than our country is at stake. This reporter has it right. Great article. Wake up, America! It’s time to take our elections back!

    23. jane Says:

      New York Senator Hillary Clinton does nothing for a new 9/11 investigation.While Bill Clinton was in power he had 8-10 oppurtunities to capture Osama Bin Laden. The Clinton legacy was the precusor to the September 11,2001 attacks.The Clinton’s 35 years experience include NAFTA,Whitewater,travelgate,cocaine smuggling from Mena,Arkansas (The Clinton Chronicles),IRS and FBI intimidation to innocent Americans(primarily the women Bill sexually abused),grand theft from Greneda bank,rape,murder(Clinton Body Count),money laundering, voter bribes,voter fraud,sex scandals,Hillary and Huma Abedin,taxes and over 300 freedom of information requests are being ignored and are locked up in the Clinton library,clemency for terrorists,health care disaster,lying to American people, blatantly rude and arrests to possible voters at rallies, extremely questionable campaign expenditures,treason.The Clintons are Bilderberg members, whose primary goal is destroy America. The NAFTA superhiway will steal owners property and land and ship up cheap goods throughout Mexica,USA, & Canada. This will destroy infastructure and cause the few manufacturing industries we have left.
      Any supporter of Clinton is uninformed, in denial or working for the machine.

    24. marlboro man Says:

      Ron Paul and B obmie are the only ones who don,t have a shit load of skeltons hanging around ! Clinton has already be chosen by our handlers so just keep YOUR DAM MOUTH SHUT AND GET IN LINE—–OR ON THE TRAIN TO CAMP

    25. BraveNewWorld Says:

      If Hillary Clinton is elected, and you are supposedly free people, why the hell dont you just not listen to her? Dont do a damn thing for a government that does not represent you, if that is indeed what it is supposed to do.

      You will have to be civil disobedient, live separately, segregate yourself if you will. Just live how you want to live.