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    MINDELLE JACOBS
    The Toronto Sun
    April 21, 2009

    There have been some terrible miscarriages of justice due to proceeds of crime legislation in other countries.

    Whether Canada will do better remains to be seen.

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    To the surprise of at least one legal expert, the Supreme Court of Canada last week unanimously gave the provinces incredible powers to seize assets allegedly connected to crime.

    For a country that has gained the reputation, whether deserved or not, of protecting the rights of the accused over the rights of victims, it’s quite an about-face.

    As one worried reader e-mailed the other day: “This is a terrifying development. If the police even suspect you of a crime, they can take all your stuff. They don’t have to prove it.”

    Is he right? “Yes and no,” says University of Manitoba law professor Michelle Gallant. The cops can take your car, for instance, if they think you’re using it to sell drugs.

    But the police have to persuade a judge that, on a balance of probabilities, the vehicle is connected to crime. And that’s much easier to show than providing evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty of a crime.

    In other words, if the police want your car, house, money or any other assets, they can get away with it without even arresting you as long as they convince a judge something doesn’t smell right. No conviction necessary.

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    101 Responses to “Cops can now ‘take all your stuff’”

    1. ReeFerKeeFER Says:

      just try it…come take my few things that i have….over my dead body.

      crpi Reply:

      it’s time to start laying your life down not just for your freedoms but for the future of your loved ones.. I f we dont fight them we HAVE NO FUTURE here’s a new vid I made about government abuse of the citizenry .. look at the end of the property and health and safety inspector 4th amendment violaters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page Violater .. what I find sickening is there is blatant in your face criminal government activity on video and yet the BS continues.

      FEMA COFFINS EXPOSED! Reply:

      FEMA coffins made up story exposed:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzYoWUPfDk

      Nimmo or Watson should do an article on this!

      WTF Reply:

      I’m a pissed now. I believe these 2 guys in the video.

      Problem is that you will NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER get a correction from Alex on this. For fucks sake do you guys have any idea how badly this shit has scared people.

      Alex DID steal the 9/11 prediction from Cooper and that’s a a fuckin’ FACT. But again, you will NEVER hear Alex get honest and fess up to it.

      Watch it Again! Reply:

      1. The guy in the video was responsible for counting ALL the “Coffin-Liners”.
      2. He said there was 100,000 (in all states).
      3. Interviewer asked how many were in the field.
      4. He couldn’t even guess.
      5. Interviewer asks if there are less than 500,00 at this location.
      6. Guy says definately less than 500,000 at this location.
      7. Says Alex Jones was the one who invented the story, then a bunch of others made youtube videos.
      8. They are called “Coffin-Liners” not “Grave-Liners” therefore one is supposed to fit inside a coffin and not the other way around.
      9. If you’ve ever seen or lifted a coffin, you would know this to be impossible.
      10. All comments are disabled so others cannot point-out errors.

      Watch it Again! Reply:

      Vantage “holds” the “Coffin-Liners” for the maker, Polygon, ordered by the CDC under FEMA.

      Axewinder Reply:

      Nobody gives a fuck whether AJ gets the credit or not. You are looking at a very small picture of some irelevant equasion my son. Focus, Concentrait on what’s really important. One World Order is eminant (Revelation 13:7-8). Fight the tyranny!

      Kevin Reply:

      Get your press cards at http://hookk.com . It’s time for us to be the media.

      Teach Reply:

      Isn’t it a little strange how “Dennis” immediately goes after Alex Jones? What is this really trying to say. I also find it odd that, “I just happened to be on my way to the tea party” was the introduction. The story just doesn’t sound right when viewed in context with manufacturing practices. Why would the company make such a huge inventory? This “debunking” just doesn’t smell right.

      DefaCamp Reply:

      http://www.neithercorp.us/nfor.....html;wap2=

      A.L.Ex N.E.T.A Reply:

      Fuckin’ A

      Common People UK Reply:

      I still can’t understand why people who have worked hard to pay for the house let a judge repossess your home. If it happens to me I will fight anyone, if they win I will burn it down.
      F**k the New World Order.

      joel Reply:

      talk about a maniacal sense of entitlment.i think their a little too liberal with themselves

      Orgizmo Reply:

      So much for the section of the Candian charter of rights and freedoms which protects against unreasonable search and seizure.

    2. Wake up Says:

      Same as Australia.

      More and more we are seeing “Guilty until proved inocent” become the norm. Even though we have laws to the contry.

      Don't pick on the police Reply:

      Yes… but didn’t you lot create Wombats Of Mass Destruction

      Marik Bromine Reply:

      Sounds a cute threat. Then again…those marsupials of the apocalypse could hide dirty bombs in their pouches! The cuddliest disaster ever conceived!

      Don't pick on the police Reply:

      I am not joking homeland security have a least 535 Koalas on a watch list who are involved in a plan to bring about the “Eucalyptus Apocalypse “

      OYE Reply:

      I was planning some holidays.

      Aussie FEMA Camps IN USE!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....4&NR=1

      mshort Reply:

      disturbing these camps are. What struck me was the child holding the fence with paper chains on. Thats what he was playing with. That was where his imagination took him , ….. too chains. YHWH please be with us

      Red Dawn Now! Reply:

      What are you talking about? wombats of destruction?….as opposed to the destruction the rat English governments have wreaked against the Irish and Scotts when raping their women and land? when devastating other countries including ours trying to imperialize them? I have a friend in Romford Essex, I used to hate the IRA….till I found out why they are fighting as they did, to bad they stopped. The English tyrants have no business there, especially after disarming not only the IRA but their own duped citizens and are now putting their citizens i prison who rightly protect themselves against the criminal without badges!

      Of course the police should be resisted in thee instances, we should take All THEIR PROPERTY WHEN THE COMMIT OFFENSES, TIER VICTIMS SHOULD GET all THEIR POOSSESIONS.
      Rogue police who steal at the behest of a dirty illiterate judge are just another kind of criminal..the greatest tyranny is committed under the color of law and cover of justice!

      Common People UK Reply:

      Just luck at what they did to our grandparents and forefathers in the North of England, did you not see the minors strike in 1984. Wake up, they are a world political and banking elite, always have been always will be.

    3. mshort Says:

      HEADLINE “COPS CAN NOW ATTEMPT TO TAKE MY STUFF”

      shut up and fight back Reply:

      choose your car….
      choose your cop hammering weapon.(aka car).

      we don’t kill. we just disable and loot. XD and leave the rest there for some other looters.

      Don't pick on the police Reply:

      HEADLINE: Cop blasted in the face with a football because he was a “busy Body Prick” Then the kids run off laughing…..Daily Mail.

    4. mshort Says:

      ” Man succeeds at defending his home, family, food,and gold.”

      millions of dead cops Reply:

      the Fraternal Order of Police should go round up these assholes making these laws and trip them downstairs. such stupid policy endangers cops’ lives.

      WakeUp Reply:

      Not going to happen, so long as the police continue to share in the proceeds from the sales of the confiscated goods.

    5. mshort Says:

      ” Furious citisens revolt and bring new peace” _ make your own this is kind of fun

      Rachel Reply:

      Fill your pockets with poo, before an immanent search

      Laughing All The Way Reply:

      Thanks, that made my day… !!

      mshort Reply:

      hey youe good at this too… lol. lets do it in peace or poo.

      Me Reply:

      LMAO!

    6. yellowhak1 Says:

      not surprising in the least. that alone would be an incentive for men of low moral and over inflated above the law egos to resist. so once seized how do they divy up the stuff? take home and disperse amongst family and friends or auction the stuff off proceeds going to them. just wondering how all that works.

      Lasshole Reply:

      dear la la land dweller, police officers don’t get to take home the stuff. why don’t you guys stop demonizing the officers and concern yourself with the powers that be. Perhaps one of those guys in blue might be on YOUR side…consider the possiblities.

      yellowhak1 Reply:

      l for little asshole? hmm… thats funny, i remember a story some years back of a cops daughter running amok in cars that had been impounded. she was having a grand ole time til all her misdeeds could no longer be hidden. tell me this l asshole where do the proceeds go once the cars are auctioned off?

    7. scott cowie Says:

      I think this is a wonderful verdict, we’ve coddled these criminals for far too long anyhow. If people lose their homes cars and pleasure craft its still a small price to pay in order to control opium production in Afghanistan and corner the world Heroin market.

      Tiny Hope Reply:

      if a cop thinks there has been a crime or if they think (thought police) that u R gonna commit a crime or if they just don’t like u! bye bye stuff and good bye due process. This is a police state believe it or not. Cowie why R u even visiting this site? U a shrill? Get a brain bud. Think b4 u speak. We do not beleive in newspeak here.

    8. juzzy Says:

      A mans house is his castle. Bring up the draw bridge an pour down the hot oil. If it comes to it then i am going to fight hard. I think that is righteous when faced with intruders and thieves.

    9. Jim Says:

      The question is, how far can they push us before revolution becomes spontaneous?

      "ren Reply:

      you’re right, Jim, “spontaneous and ruthless” is what i’m thinkin

      Maxwell Saint Reply:

      Oh, is that what YOUR thinking?
      and I was just thinking to myself, gee, I wonder what He was thinking….
      and now I know.
      See?
      That was easy enough.
      Before I comment on the current situation it needs to be stated in no uncertain terms before a few of my bretherin, Whom, by now will agree4 out of 5 times before I even finish the storey.

    10. John Galt Says:

      Key word is “take”. So bring it you thieves with the badges. You dont obey the law anyway so why wait for a reason to try and justify your larceny. Just work up the guts if you can an bring it. Climb the gate throw your rope on the bull and nod your head. And you can meet the dogs and me.

      Hahahahah.

      Maxwell Saint Reply:

      Hahahahaha

      SHUT UP !

    11. roaddog Says:

      They’ve pretty much been doing this for quite a while, actually. They use the selling drugs as the main attack point. Alot of times you can’t get your shit back until you had your day in court and found innocent. Then it takes a while longer.

    12. Saint Shannon Says:

      Coming to a Court House near you, soon. Can we stand the pain of watching this country go to the money dogs?

    13. copkiller Says:

      I Luv killing cops..Bring it on pussies

      Don't pick on the police Reply:

      why bother chemtrails and flouride will get to them before you.

      shut up and fight back Reply:

      dont kill cops on the first spot. first try to make them realize what they are pushing for.

      explain them what happen to police or army that fallow illegal orders and laws.

    14. I have just seen a police man who thinks he rules the world. Says:

      He was Breathing in chemtrails.

    15. Don't pick on the police Says:

      Their brains are being rotted by Aspertame and Fluoride…bless em they can’t help it.

    16. val cardwell Says:

      DON’T WORRY ABOUT THESE LACKEYS OF THEIR FASCIST REGIME STEALING YOUR GOODS, BECAUSE YOU’LL EITHER BE IN A PRISON/ INTERNMENT CAMP–OR DEAD!

    17. sandy Says:

      hell they already do it here… if you are selling drugs out of your house…even if your kid is doing it .. they can cease your house…

    18. shut up and fight back Says:

      there is no differance between a cop that take your stuff without proffs or a warrant and a theif that is menacing you of some shit. killing a cop that attack you is called self deffense.

    19. James Says:

      HEEEEEELLLOOOOOOOOOOO?!?!?! where the hell has everyone been?1/1 your not telling us anything we don’t already know. wake the fuck up, quit bitchin and do something about it! as long as everyone keeps buying into this stupid fucking system, nothing will change. FYI, it would be awfuly hard to convince these ignorant, conforming pigs to take your shit if they weren’t getting a pay cheque in return. so why not do the opposite of what every1 has done to put these fuckers in a position to oppress…get the point??!!

    20. Marik Bromine Says:

      What really infuriates me is that they constantly go after the petty criminals, the old lady who forgot to pay taxes, the guy who stole some clothes for his infant, the potheads, yet the people looting millions, billions, the white-collar thieves run amok, the murderers in business suits, the drug-dealers siting at desks in corporate offices (Rx Drugs), the people exploiting child labor to further his career, the “elected” conmen, corrupt villains who do more damage than all the petty criminals of the world combined, they run free, causing havok and mayhem and suffering, never once facing trials or prison.

    21. Bob Says:

      After the reestablishment of rule of law by We the People, we can use these same “laws” to CONFISCATE all their property, especially the Rockefeller crime syndicate family, before we create a new Constitution and ban the practice forever.

      Join the fight, the Rockefeller’s are worth over a trillion dollars, get your share when we take them down.

      Me Reply:

      The Rockefeller’s are worth over a trillion dollars…I reckon they ain’t worth Sh**t.. David cockafella looks pretty old right now…Could he be going to hell…. I hope so.

      Johnny Rothon Reply:

      i think the Rothschild’s are worth 500 trillion. makes our local Rockefellers look smalltime.

      Hello Reply:

      Ya, I heard the Rothschilds are worth 500 trillion also…in the documentary series “Ring of Power”.

    22. NINO WANTS A STOGIE Says:

      REPENT.UNITE.RESIST.

      Don't pick on the police Reply:

      please explain that it’s getting very boring!

    23. Don't pick on the police Says:

      Buy a tent. Start a fight.Get Pissed.

    24. Unite! Says:

      Be Prepared!

      http://www.warnthepeople.org/be-prepared.html

    25. val cardwell Says:

      MORE AND MORE LIKE HITLERS RULE EVERY DAY–HE’D BE SO PROUD. BUT THEN, THE YANKS ALWAYS ADORED FASCIST GERMANY—LIKE LOOKING INTO A MIRROR. WHO DID THE YANKEE MILIRARY BRING TO THEIR COUNTRY?—- ALL THOSE DELIGHTFUL “SCIENTISTS” BROUGHT IN, TO WORK ON GENETICS, AND SPACE TRAVELS EFFECTS ON ASTRAUNAUTS. THEY WORKED TOGETHER QUITE HAPPILY. IT CANNOT BE ANY SURPRISE TO SEE THE CRACK–DOWN ON WORKING-CLASS, AND POOR PEOPLE. REMEMBER, YOU ARE LESS THAN NOTHING TO THESE CRIMINAL SCUM, CALLING THEMSELVES A ” GOVERNMENT”! IT’S THE SAME HERE IN BRITLAND. WE ARE IN FOR A HELLISH, MICRO–CHIPPED, SPIED–UPON FASCIST WORLD, IN THIS ” FREEDOM-LOVING”, “DEMOCRATIC” WORLD. THE WEST HAS SPEWED OUT LIES ABOUT “FREEDOM LOVING PEOPLE”— WHAT A BLOODY SICK JOKE! FIGHT NOW, OR DIE UNDER THE NEO-CON’S JACK-BOOTS. TIME’S RUNNING OUT!

    26. ty ty Says:

      t3sting

      jgcv Reply:

      how’s the testing going?

    27. MOUNTINGFLAME Says:

      we as men of good moral standing, as we understand and obey the constitution, can not allow this kind of stuff to get any worse than it already has been for years…………we patriots must start our planning on how to protect our god given natural human right’s……..the 2nd amendment being the linchpin that secures all other of our god given right’s…..we can never….NEVER…give up our guns, for we would reduced to mere slaves in control of nothing. “for a man without freedom, is a fool without guns”—Carlos Gonzalez—

    28. An European Voize Says:

      back in 1990 I was in Antwerpen, Belgium, on my way to the ralway station,
      I could hardly pass because of a right wing organized protest of Vlaams Blok(now Vlaams Belang, right extremist party)
      As I was witnessing ‘police’ harrassing a young lady, who just like me couldn’t pass very easy,
      although she didn’t offend the ‘officers’ or anything by no means,
      they were so brutally arresting her.
      I stood there, speachless and talking to myself, I said; “does this have to be like that?”
      obviously some ‘officers’ saw and heard me and they grabbed me,
      confiscated a lady’s camera who was filming my arrest
      and these ‘cops’ handcuffed me
      and here’s my ponit;
      WITH MY RIGHT HAND THUMB BEND OVER TO THE WRONG SIDE AND PRESSED BY THE CUFFS!
      it hurted enormously and I heared one ‘cop’ saying to his college:
      “come on, do hurt him some more” so the other ‘cop’ tightened th cuff still more, the bloody bastard!
      in the van, I asked a lady officer to loosen up the cuffs, since it hurted
      “o! are you going to cry or what? if you don’t stop complaining we will put you some place else
      (still wondering what place she meant by that)
      we were put in cells with more then 20 people each cell
      amongst were little kids!
      a couple of real honest kids later told me the cops did not return their money!
      even a restaurant keeper, who just needed to pass to open up his restaurant,
      was in the cell
      even not being allowed to call his wife

      until now I NEVER dared to publish this

    29. Wild Wings n' things Says:

      This is like, one step away from “Minority Report” pre crime shit. They will keep pushing until the common people have no choice but to fight back, or get gang raped by “Homeland Security” types.

    30. gravel kucinich paul nader Says:

      Automatic Extortion Blackmail Bribery

    31. BILDERTURD Says:

      THe NWO is gung ho for their rotten North American Union. I hope Big Father in Heaven will crush big brother back into hell with their luciferian illuminati global domination scheme!!! Pray against all the usual suspects commiting this great act of tyranical evil that is global governance!

    32. GregO Says:

      See what happens when you live in a place with no guns the scum can do all crap they want. Try that shit here and see what happens.SCUM THUGS…

    33. jgcv Says:

      You think americans are dumb, try talking to some brits. They are mega dumb and limp.

    34. mr activist Says:

      eesh got scared there for a minute – thought this was in the uk because of the picture on the home page

    35. John Says:

      HERE THEY COME… WALKIN DOWN THE STREET… THEY GET THE FUNNIEST LOOKS FROM…
      EVERYONE THEY MEET… HEY HEY THEY’RE THE CRIMINALS, POLICE CONFISCATIN YOUR CARS, BUT YOU’RE TOO BUSY BITCHIN TO DO A THING ABOUT IT NOW….

    36. La Verdad Says:

      POLICE STATE IN EL PASO: reminds me of when they arrested Amy Goodman for protecting our country by being a good reporter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded

    37. ET Says:

      Perfect scenario for resistance. If they try taking your stuff make sure that, before it’s over, they will leave without all of their stuff.

    38. B.S. Says:

      Tit for tat if they take your stuff rip them off twice as much. a nice squad car a sbow plow, what ever you can

    39. Asher a Christian musician :D Says:

      oh i couldnt care less sbout these cops of SATAN,they can take all the worldly items they want,they cant take the kingdom of God away from me

    40. Joe Somebody Says:

      The Preacher that Alex Jones had on today preached a sermon about what happen to him. If you have not heard it, It sounds like Alex Jones preaching. This guy let loose and preached like I have not heard in twenty years. He starts off slow but man can this man preach.

      Go to this site and listen to his sermon on Isaiah 53. Click on this sermon and be prepared to here a minister who turns loose. Alex it you get a chance you need to listen to this sermon.

      http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/page5.html

    41. SMART ASS Says:

      Cops can now ‘take all your stuff’ === THEY CAN SUCK MY DICK.

    42. Tiny Hope Says:

      Come and get it and bring ur tazers cause ur gonna need them

    43. Notorious Kelly Says:

      Cops can now ‘take all your stuff’

      U.S. cops have been doing this for years, effectively making themselves pirates.

      Just do a search on “asset forfeiture.”

    44. Notorious Kelly Says:

      Here’s a good link:

      http://www.isil.org/resources/.....erica.html

    45. Boomshakalaka Says:

      http://www.polyguardvaults.com/index.cfm?ID=1

      They are coffins…. Here is the company that makes them.

      Keep napping folks

    46. vrossi Says:

      do americans not use wooden coffins like most other countries or are all your coffins plastic?

    47. HillbillyJihad&TheBubbaLiberationFront Says:

      “Poverty is the parent of Revolution and Crime!!!” Aristotle(322 b.c.). Molon Labe!!! I love po’ chops but I’s hate’s pigs!!! Rabbi Bacon, Burnt Church Tennesee. It’s all about the love!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”

      Thom Daniels Reply:

      I am always intrigued by the “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion” that you always use.
      The more that I think about it, WTC7 did house numerous govt offices and from what I have seen of most people who work in govt offices..most of them are totally obese ladies that have to turn side ways and suck in their guts just to pass through a doorway. I am beginning to suspect that WTC7 was not empty on 9/11/01 but full of those totally obese office slaves..thus the real reason WTC7 collapse was not thermal expansion but rather DERMAL expansion…Too much weight being support by those nano-thermite damaged columns…
      “ALL HAIL DERMAL EXPANSION”

      LOL, sorry Hillbilly, I just couldn’t resist it…..

    48. Dale Says:

      See why we need to protect our rights to have guns?

    49. yellowhak1 Says:

      todays new headline fannie mae freddie mac financial ceo suicided i mean commits suicide. wtf is going on

    50. Keith Says:

      Well then grab the panel truck lets head for George H.W’s house, George W’s house and Cheneys shit hole and load up.

    51. Big Dog Says:

      Come and get it! Please make sure I am home when you come. Oh, you better bring two or three with ya!

    52. punks in power/ pansy, the flower Says:

      So seize ALL the politicians have..it was all gained through crime.

      Not a Sheeple Reply:

      Thats exactly what should happen!!!!

    53. X Says:

      Maybe “South Park” was right.

    54. simz Says:

      I recently had a radio scanner seized in a “bust” where the police found nothing at all. I tried to get it back and the DA literally laughed at me when she heard my request. Even though I can buy one of these scanners at a local Radio Shack, they acted as if it was illegal for me to have one.

      Things are getting out of hand. Next will be our guns…

      Not a Sheeple Reply:

      The only people that will be left to blame, are those that let it happen to themselves……Pick up your arms…..defend yourselves—-thats your patriotic duty as an American citizen, as per your constitution!!

    55. Prof. C Montgomeryy Morris Phd Abnormal Sexual Behavior Says:

      I finger my anus when i masterbate.

    56. Greg Says:

      Test post.
      For some reason my previous post (new here) didn’t show?

    57. VAL CARDWELL Says:

      YET ANOTHER WAY TO INTIMIDATE AND BLACK-MAIL THE PUBLIC. MESSAGE; “DON’T STEP OUT OF LINE, OR YOU’RE ON THE STREET AND /OR IN PRISON, WE WILL BREAK YOU”. WHAT A COUNTRY! AND THEY STILL PERSUADE FOOLS THAT YANKEELAND IS “THE LAND OF THE FREE”. IT’S CALLED BRAIN-WASHING, AND IT’S WORKED ON THE WHITE POPULATION. WE KNOW BETTER! NON–WHITE, AFRICAN /AMERICANS, ALL KNOW BETTER. VERY FEW BELIEVE THE REGIME’S DANGEROUS CRAP. THIS IS TOTAL FASCISM. HOWEVER, THERE WILL BE MORE OF THIS, CONTROLLING YOUR MONEY, UNTIL IT’S ALL CARDS WITH MICRO– CHIPS IN, SO EVERYTHING YOU SPEND WILL BE RECORDED AND STOPPED VIA MICRO–CHIP TECH. IT’S BEEN CREEPING, NOW ITS SPRINTING! PLEASE, PLEASE, WAKE UP, BEFORE IT’S MUCH TOO LATE.