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Cops Think Linux Use May be Sign of Criminal Behavior
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On Friday, EFF and the law firm of Fish and Richardson filed an emergency motion to quash [pdf] and for the return of seized property on behalf of a Boston College computer science student whose computers, cell phone, and other property were seized as part of an investigation into who sent an e-mail to a school mailing list identifying another student as gay. The problem? Not only is there no indication that any crime was committed, the investigating officer argued that the computer expertise of the student itself supported a finding of probable cause to seize the student’s property.
The warrant application [pdf] cites the following allegedly suspicious behavior:
Should Boston College Linux users be looking over their shoulders?
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In his application, the investigating officer asked that he be permitted to seize the student’s computers and other personal affects because they might yield evidence of the crimes of "Obtaining computer services by Fraud or Misrepresentation" and "Unauthorized access to a computer system." Aside from the remarkable overreach by campus and state police in trying to paint a student as suspicious in part because he can navigate a non-Windows computer environment, nothing cited in the warrant application could possibly constitute the cited criminal offenses. There are no assertions that a commercial (i.e. for pay) commercial service was defrauded, a necessary element of any "Obtaining computer services by Fraud or Misrepresentation" allegation. Similarly, the investigating officer doesn’t explain how sending an e-mail to a campus mailing list might constitute "unauthorized access to a computer system."
During its March 30th search, police seized (among other things) the computer science major’s computers, storage drives, cell phone, iPod Touch, flash drives, digital camera, and Ubuntu Linux CD. None of these items have been returned. He has been suspended from his job pending the investigation. His personal documents and information are in the hands of the state police who continue to examine it without probable cause, searching for evidence to support unsupportable criminal allegations.
Next up? An emergency court hearing as soon as the court will hear us in which we will ask that the search warrant be voided and the student’s property returned. Stay tuned…
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
At just over 50 seconds into the segment, Investigative Reporter Jeff Ferrell says “KSLA News 12 had the sample tested at a lab. The results: A high level of barium, 6.8 parts per million, (ppm). That’s more than three times the toxic level set by the Environmental Protection Agency, or EPA.” The Problem? The actual video clearly shows 68.8 ug/L (stands for MICROGRAMS PER LITER), eg 68.8 ppb (STANDS FOR PARTS PER BILLION). A Liter of water is 1000 grams, or 1 kilogram. Just as 1+1=2, so does a millionth of a gram out of one thousand grams correspond to one part per Billion. And so does 68.8 millionths of a gram per liter correspond to 68.8 parts per BILLION. The reporter was not off by a factor of 1000, but only 100 instead, but only because he read the “68.8″ as “6.8″. So Ferrell only over-estimated the amount of barium in the test report by a factor of 100 (or, 10,000 PER CENT if you prefer percentages). From the EPA/CDC site: “The EPA has set a limit of 2.0 milligrams of barium per liter of drinking water (2.0 mg/L), which is the same as 2 ppm [parts per million].” The reporter got it wrong. The test result was not “three times the toxic level set by the Environmental Protection Agency, or EPA.” (i.e. 300%). It was actually less than 3.5%. It was around 30 times LESS THAN THE EPA’S TOXIC LIMIT. http://www.nmsr.org/chemtrls.htm
jim demoret Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
dude! too bad the feds did this, he sounds like a great guy, fixing friends computers, etc. notice they are actually holding his very education and expertise (and daring to practice his craft) against him like its criminal, the answer to 1984 is 1776 man, see you all at the tea parties tomorrow and at the end the fed on the 25th, peace…
jim demoret Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
ps. like big brother doesn’t already know who sent a freakin email, right…
DIY Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
This article reminds me of Richard Stallman. He is the forefront of the free software movement and copyleft. You guys should look up his work.
DIY Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-nTWFfJw8
DIY Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Richard Stallman is a patriot. Watch his speech on freedom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-nTWFfJw8
GUESTS Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
ALEX INTERVIEW RICHARD STALLMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DIY Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Here’s part 2 of Richard Stallman’s speech on free software. He talks about divide and conquer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPVYR3w4vy0
agentOgden Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Thanks for posting these! I’ve read about this guy but I’ve never seen him speak. F*ckn-A!
I took your links and wrote up a little piece here…
http://www.neithercorp.us/nfor.....sg2087#new
and encouraged my forum readers to learn a bit about open source.
So, maybe this is how they plan to “kill the internet”? I have been saying for years, the open source community will never allow the corporate consolidation of the web. There’s just too many Linux-using ‘hackers’ out there. The globalist corporations may own the infrastructure, but let there be no confusion about who owns the INTERNET (it’s the PROGRAMMERS! HAHAHAHAHA)
That makes us a bit of a threat, don’t it? I wouldn’t be surprised to see “computer savvy individuals” listed in the next leaked DHS report.
Whatever! Can’t stop us all.
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 2:39 am
Alex did interview Stallman about two years ago. It wasn’t very productive. Stallman didn’t even know what Internet 2 refers to – kinda frozen in his time capsule about 20 years ago.
Stallman was a major obstacle and helping Microsoft in a big way by insisting on “purity” of Linux and thus making it more or less unusable for multimedia applications/desktop use.
Back to the story: The encouraging aspect of how this went down is that they arrested him for knowing how to operate a *ix computer system. This means the point where they arrest people for being able to read and write is still a little bit down the road.
A side note: If the campus authorities are not able to find out who sent which communication at which point in time those folks are potentially providing criminal hackers and terrorists with non-traceable computing and networking capabilities. The people responsible for setting up an infrastructure like this should be held accountable immediately…
Irish Cherokee All American Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Hey brothers and sisters BE CARE FULL AT THE TEA PARTY TOMOROW I HAVE BEEN HEARING TALK OF FEMA TRAIN BOX CARS HEADING TO WASHINGTON DO NOT!! LET THEM HERD YOU ON TO THEM AND DONT LET THEM PUT OTHER PEOPLE ON THEM EITHER ITS WORTH IT TO STOMP THEIR FACES IF YOU HAVE TO!
More sweat during peace, Less blood during war.
MOAN LABE!!!
spacechickenfromplanetx Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS making everyone a criminal to put and jail and use for slave labor.. take a look at this vid about prison slave labor in america http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page Self funded prison system .. CRIME PAYS
Marching To The Drum Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
THIS PROMPTS ME TO LEARN the linux operating system … lol
What ever they say is bad, is in reality, Good.
Simple as that.
ie. Waters Good for you…Guns are Bad….
See the simple guidelines we can use ???
Wayland Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:06 am
On my linux server I chose the option to encrypt the hard drive. This was fine for 6 months but then I had to switch it off. When it came back on it asked me for the decryption code, which I had forgotten. I don’t believe anyone could have got my files back.
If you have something to hide then build and encrypted linux server. When the Fibbies come then just cut the power.
Anon Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 4:32 am
They could still bruteforce or guess the encryption key and access the partition. As far as I know the vital part is in the first few blocks of the partition. If you zero out that part, the whole partition is useless, since you can no longer use the correct key to decrypt the partition.
Sar4Life Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
noob ^^
Gabe Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 1:59 am
So that passes as a warrant now huh. Complete bullshit. There are millions of reasons to have 2 operating systems, millions of reasons to use Linux, millions of reasons to be seen with multiple different computers.
I can’t even describe the level of bullshit but I am sure most of you don’t need me to. Shits coming together fast.
toss the cheesburger, eat the wrapper Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:37 am
stop confusing us with the facts, man. I’ve got my tinfoil on and my machete sharp… I believe the levels were 2 billion times what the FDA allows. Whaddya think about that?
toss the cheesburger, eat the wrapper Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Isn’t linux a cat?
toss the cheesburger, eat the wrapper Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:39 am
no, it’s a dog, sor fuckin ry. they’re picking on linux the fucking dog now.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
i wonder if he was also associated with the patriot movement. i dont think the police would go through the trouble otherwise
April 14th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Uh, oh. If you dual boot with Linux you are a terrorist.
Ryan R Walker Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Well I don’t dual boot I just use Linux so does that mean I’m safe?
fort1 Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 5:53 am
No, you are not !!
If you had at least a Windows partition, you could hope for a life sentence.
Linux only = death on the spot!
DOSman Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Uh oh! I know what ‘C:\’ means. Guess I’m screwed too!
Wayland Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:15 am
Black screen with white text could have been the MS DOS prompt in Windows. There is a good chance that more cyber terrorists know the DOS prompt than sheeple. Probable cause?
April 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
This is an E X C E L L E N T article! It proves the point that the Microsucks surveillance operating system is the OS of choice concerning colleges etc. Linux is an excellent and “clean” os and won’t allow the PeRpS to run their background activities that spy on American’s computer usage.
Linux Mint and Ubuntu is my choice of desktops OS and Server NOS. Open Source solutions are kicking the proprietary market share ass and offera a more secure solution with value added.
Best
_Don
MSN=Mega Sucky Network Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
That was my first though when I saw the headline. Windows just openly spreads your info around like dust in the wind. I’m not saying that Linux is totaly unvunerable, but the PeRpS have to put a little effort with it. I’ve got 2 PC’s I personally use one is Linux Ubuntu and the other is getting switched to it as soon as backup files i want to keep after a format. LINUX RULES AND I RECOMEND IT TO EvERYONE!!!!!!!!
MSN=Mega Sucky Network Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Dont forget Bill Gates funds planned parenthood which I feel stops reproduction and lowers the world population. Why wouldnt he be game to spy on anyone with a PC.
Sar4Life Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I think your reasoning is flawed.
It may be called planned patenthood but anyone that has a brain knows it’s all about UN-planned parenthood.
Most gals that go there do NOT get fixed for at least 2 more births and only use the facility as an afterthought.
That organisation is one of the main bridges between simple laziness and Welfare.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
You gotta be shittin’ me!!!! What cause you know how to wipe your own ass and blow your own nose the goddamned dept of health and human services is label you a threat?!?! seemingly unrelated paralell but think about it- the kid was good with computers so the minions of the state were sent forth to harass and confiscate. Kind of reminds me of that Dean Koontz book “Dark Rivers of The Heart”. Pretty soon the only ones who will have any peace are the ones who rode to school licking the windows on the short bus.
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Marching To The Drum Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Im sure his punishment will be to visit the hospital twice a day, and drink the court imposed quantity of 4 glasses of water, each visit.
….There now, dont you feel Much Better? the nurse states ?
….hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……..as the brain frys
It's Time Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
“What cause you know how to wipe your own ass and blow your own nose the goddamned dept of health and human services is label you a threat?!?!” – BobLeeSwagger
That was awesome…I’m thinking this is my new tag line!
April 14th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Damn, I must be a hardcore terrorist then, because I’m currently working for a large software company as an Oracle DBA, and our main Oracle OS is… Red Hat Linux…. Oh hell, that’s 2 command line interfaces, I must be an especially high profile terrorist
Datio Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
double DAMN! I own guns, support the Constitution, the 2nd A, the general over throw of our goverment, and use Linux to gain access to satellite video streams! Wow I am like way a terrorist…
TheGhost Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
you guys sound like the head of al queda, the army needs to send some predator drones to blow up your homes!
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 2:46 am
Red Hat is withdrawing support from their Desktop OS more and more, so that makes them a supporter of Microsoft. – So I don’t think you have to worry as long as you aren’t using Ubuntu.
shut up and fight back Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:28 am
i use microshit windows xp and vista and maybe il try 7.
but i would never pay for it XD.
i use a cracked xp / dell coorporate vista ultimate.XD and il wait for 7.
i also got a cracked windows 2k ultimate. wich i would be using for a server. (data center edition).
i rarely buy games or programs for pc, i download them XD. however if i fell like some compagny is fair with their consummers i would actully encourage that compagny.
but never,never ever pay for a os made by microsoft.
to all xp users. (if you are having virus problems or anything else anoying just get rid of service pack 3. its pure shit.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Uh.. read the warrant He’s accused of changing grades for students. Not and unreasonable course of action for the accusation .. hacking the system and changing grades.
TruthSpeaker Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Clearvoice, he is not accused of changing grades, his peer said he was “changing grades”, the same peer that reports he was made fun of for his sexual orientation by the accused. He is accused of using Linux.
PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Read the Warrant application, That is exactally what he is accused of “truthspeaker”. Way to run your mouth without actually knowing anything. Good Work!!!!
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:00 am
OMG, clearvoice: Are you saying that whether they invade your home or not depends on the accusation and not on the proof?
shut up and fight back Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:30 am
more or less, but yeah thats the world we live in. who give a shit about proofs? not govt officials.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Dumbing us down like cattle. Soon no one will be permitted to do anything without a license!
Buy your yearly breathing licenses for just 99.90$!
Monthly ass wiping license for just 2.98$!
April 14th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
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TheGhost Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
distress symbol dumbass
DIY Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Yeah, it’s an india company flag in distress. Not my flag!
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April 14th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
This is just too idiotic.
Can people really be this stupid?
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:01 am
no, of course not – it’s all psyche warfare
April 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
“Sir, you cannot pick your nose between 9am and 11pm here, and you must be within 5 feet from the side walk. Also, we have installed the latest fascist cameras all over your neighbourhood to makes sure that you cooperate with our totalitarian regime.”
Thank you for obeying and remember, consume, reproduce, and watch tv!”
Screw fascism, and screw this hidden Nazi party that calls itself the Government.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Digg: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Typ.....r_Property
April 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
he surely is suspicious
because he is a criminal
why he is a criminal?
cause he is suspicious
WANTED
cops with BRAIN AND HEART
April 14th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Oh goodness!
“prompt commands”
DOS!?!?!?!?!? Now “MS-DOS”
PLEASE!!! Copes are stupid of they don’t know what c:\> is!!! C:\> del *.*
Michael Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
I’m stupid for so many typos. Whoops!
April 14th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Gee, until they can actually illegalize LINUX, this must be their next best idea. God forbid that people might have the freedom to write their own code and not be dependent on purchasing crappy inferior software from from the Microsoft mongoloids. Besides, Bill Gates needs all the $$$ he can get to pursue the dream of his Arctic “Seed Vault” with his boyfriend Warren Buffet… !!
HA HA H AH AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
kashin Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
yep yep
Awake Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
LOL! Mongoloids!!!! LOL!!!!
DIY Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
I find it interesting how Bill Gates and Warren Buffet openly run the Costco Corporation, as they are the biggest shareholders. I know someone who works there and their quarterly company newsletter (called Costco Today) always has those two featured. They also rub in the readers’ faces about how their eugenics programs benefit the global community!
Costco tracks and traces EVERYTHING someone buys through the membership card. The sick part is that the “members” have to pay $108 a year for this invasion of their privacy.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Yep…I know every time I run a shell script,or a “C” program,I feel as if I’ve just sacrificed a child at The Bohemian Grove…lol
This is INSANITY! IT’S A MADHOUSE!!!
OwlMan
http://learn.to/HackTheNWO
April 14th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
LOL!
Anything free that is outside the control of “them”, will be “tools for the terrorists”. That means, you are terrorists, you are the enemy of the state. You are all mark’ed for death by “them”. What you see on your behavior modification boxes (TV) is a screen play for you to think the actors are your friends. You are plugged into the matrix right now and you are going to die soon! You are a useless eater and “they” do not need you anymore.
Wakeup , unplug and become un-squared!
Take care,
BM
Awake Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
I unplugged long ago and it is so refreshing not to have to see/hear the propoganda, blaze.
I don’t even listen to the radio, such garbage in every aspect of msm. Too bad i can’t duck it on the internet! Brittany spears walks of stage at concert…who the f’uck cares!!!!!! why is that news?!?!?!?!!! oh, because the sheep need to be distracted.
yeah, once the sheep see people being marched off to fema camps for “their own good and safety” they will believe that it is best to submit too.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Knowing how to use Linux makes life hard for the paid government hackers.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
http://www.bollyn.com/index.ph.....icle_11097
April 14th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I have to get myself Linux for my new computer. I am willing to bet anything that windows has so many backdoors to it that the govt. could do anything or PUT anything on your computer to make you look guilty.
snapper Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
I now refuse all the “FREE” upgrades to my software just because I don’t trust the “FREE” cheese approach. Arrest the “banksters!” ARREST THE CROOKED BANKSTERS ! I am willing to be Deputized to assist in such an action.
April 14th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Well, since I’ve been using Linux for about 12 years, I guess that makes me a terrorist. Linux users, because they don’t fall for the Microsoft is better lie, are non-conformers. All forms of non-conformity are a sign of terrorism.
WELCOME TO THE BRAVE NEW WORLD!
April 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
April 14th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
IF YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND FIND YOURSELF BREATHING, YOU ARE A TERRORIST.
Come on, this is a joke. Maybe not. I forgot, we are all now living in the Twilight Zone, or didn’t you notice? Don’t worry. I found the secret to beating these criminals at there own game. DON’T THINK.
Just stop thinking & problem solved.
NOTICE: George W. Bush issued Executive Orders allowing the National Security Agency to read this message and all other e-mail, web searches and phone calls you receive or send—without warning, warrant or notice. Bush ordered this to be done without any legislative or judicial oversight. Obama has made no mention of reversing these unConstitutional orders & as a matter of fact has reinforced them even more. You have no recourse or protection. Everything you type may be used against you to detain you in a secret prison, where you will be held without right of habeas corpus or right to trial by jury.
OwlMan Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
How right you are (That we are all now living in “The Twilight Zone”)…I”am sure you’ve probably seen this already,but for those who haven’t,and doubt that we are actually living in the “TZ” now…
Check this out…
http://molech.weebly.com/the-t.....e-man.html
“Who-WHO will watch The Watchmen”?
OwlMan
“Any state,any entity,any ideology that fails to recognize the worth,the dignity,the rights of man…That state is OBSOLETE…A case to be filed under “M” for (Mankind) in The Twilight Zone” – Rod Serling
snapper Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Maybe what is needed is millions of tee shirts that say something to the effect ; I have been labeled a “terrorist ‘ by the ” new world order. ” …….SO WHAT !
April 14th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
I need to study up on GNU/Linux. My current OS is trash.
April 14th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
It doesn’t sound like a conspiracy to me. It sounds like stupidity.
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:08 am
Well, stupidity is the result of the conspiracy. Fluoride and Mercury anybody? Those cops probably had an overdose of that and are unable to learn beyond a certain complexity. Note the pride that accompanies the part where they list their accomplishments. Too bad they can’t use the command line, although they’ve always wanted to be COOL users – but now it’s payback time for them.
April 14th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Ummm… Have any of you actually read the search warrant application? The guy has two witnesses against him, and LOADS of other evidence against him. This article is completely misleading and takes excerpts from the warrant application completely out of context. The excerpts the author of this article are testimony from a WITNESS, not from the actual detective. The only thing it mentions about linux is the fact that harassing emails were sent from a linux machine, and only two linux machines were registered to the network that sent the emails. ONE of which was owned by the accused.
snapper Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
So how long was the “witness” a incarcerated – convicted felon ? hypothetically speaking, of course .
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:15 am
So why didn’t they look up the IPs? No need to do anything with those computers. If those witnesses know that that guy has 200 movies they can also fake his OS and other details of his private life. They make it sound like faking grades can be untraceable unless you have the suspect’s computers, which is baloney. The only thing the warrant proves is that those cops are totally incompetent and that their negligence borders on making them responsible for any computer crimes happening on the campus.
April 14th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
hey EFF its actually GNU/Linux!!! lol
and A patched version of Leopard on my netbook!!
but all in all I guess I’m a “terrorist” now because I’ve used Slackware for over ten 10 years
April 14th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
It also happens that the witness against him is his former roommate, and also witnessed a shitload of other illegal activity. Yes, its questionable about whether he is being charged with an actual “crime”; if anything he should be charged with harassment or something along those lines. But the fact that he is being singled out because he uses linux is completely ridiculous and misleading by the author of this article.
April 14th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I use Linux too!!! I guess I’m a terrorist. What a bunch of crap. Screw Apple and Microsoft!
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:18 am
Apple runs on linux for years now, just an FYI
shut up and fight back Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:35 am
yeah but apple os x is badly programed.
althought it looks great. guess how much memory firefox sucks up.
275 fucking megs out of physycal memory.
on a pc its barely 100 megs.
so technically on a mac. you don’t need an all out powerful cpu and video card. you just need crazy ammount of ram.
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
OMG, I’ve never been what you could call a Mac user. This sounds like they are running firefox from within some windows emulator ((o:
April 14th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Good grief! Because he’s competent he’s a crook? No wonder we get the government we get with attitudes like this in the officials and departments. It doesn’t pay to be too good at something, they’ll think you’re a crook, while the real crooks okay the policies that say so and write more of the same. We’re in deep, deep trouble here folks.
Al Reply:
April 14th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Read the actual warrant application; this article is very misleading… There’s boatloads of other evidence against him and two witnesses; being good with computers or using linux has little to do with it
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:20 am
Actually, *evidence* is what’s missing in the warrants… And the warrant mostly speaks of how great the cops are and how they know what a computer does as supporting “evidence”.
April 14th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I can navigate a terminal. I think ALL of MIT can navigate a terminal. Come to think of it I bet there are millions who can navigate a terminal. Even some old geeks can even hammer out some commands in DOS.
April 14th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
in addition what does this say about our windows installations?
April 14th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Ok all fun aside, this kid is screwed. Upon actually reading the warrant the book will be thrown at hime and I’m willing to be there was actually some real hacking going on. Though the key witness is also a reliable witness an another ongoing investigation. Informant or Mole perhaps? Linux has LITTLE if nothing at all to do with this. Infowars is becoming just as sensational as the MSM.
aussie Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 12:38 am
your willing to bet there was some real hacking going on?
your willingness to bet has nothing to do with this students rights. If they cant prove their case, its time to give him his stuff back and APOLOGIZE at the very least.
just because your willing to bet he was hacking doesnt mean they dont have to prove it. Are you some kind of troll???
JP Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 8:12 am
If you read section 4) Basis for Probable Cause you will find that they have an IP address regarding the alleged defamatory email confirmed by the IT departments director that shows Mr. Calixte’s computer was used to send the message to the BC Mail list. The witness says he saw Mr. Calixte access the Faculty database and change grades, he also claimed he had 200+ illegally downloaded movies and an a large amount of downloaded, pirated music.
Believe me I am far from a troll. I just think the Infowars crew tried to dig a little too deep on this one. I fall for the sensational headline every once in a while but this one is a bit far fetched.
I do feel that those with an exceptionally good understanding of computer systems can be targets for unlawful seizure but I don’t think this is one of those cases.
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 3:23 am
Well, if there was hacking going on, they could have used the access logs against that guy. They did not do that, which is evidence that there was NO hacking going on.
April 14th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
this is plain old settin someone up using written laws to get back at this guy, according to the warrant wich may have been issued on false grounds but thats irrelevant now cause the warrant has already been served and yes they found illegal shit on the ol puter movies and music for ex. if they searched the computer and found nothing then id say this guy has a fighting chance , but since they found “contraband” hes screwed. he better get a damn good lawyer. when he gets out of jail we need to recruit him we are going to need people who can hack also we are going to need emp’s cause every thing the gubberment uses is electronic except for maybe the old army deuce and a halfs and 5 tons left over from vietnam. but everything else would be immediately disabled by an effective emp
TakerOfCorporateSouls Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
on a search warrant, only the evidence on the warrant can be used against him…..at the least, what ever the witnesses actually saw him do, and are willing to testify towards like the rat bastards they are, then he is screwed…..but the fishing expedition for all the implied stuff can be stopped by any competent attorney…..and they have him on conspiracy at the least, when ever they can’t get you on the current evidence….if there are witnesses involved then conspiracy to commit (fill in the blank) is at hand….this is all criminal law 101 stuff
April 14th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
So, having specialized expertice in computers makes one suspect of terrorism. What will they think about mere peasants that have high expertice in MARKSMANSHIP? Or those of us who were TRAINED BY UNCLE SAM TO MAKE & USE EXPLOSIVE DEVICES?
April 14th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
This is awesome, I’m using Linux right now!
April 14th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Am I correct in my beleif that the Chi-Coms use Lenox for Business, Government, and Military but make the people use microsoft so they can monitor and backdoor the people’s computer? Does Microsoft, Google and Yahoo turn over internet dissedents to the Chi-Coms so they have an abundant supply of organ donors?
April 14th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
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April 15th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Ethical hackers, the ones that probably want to work for computer security firms, are such a misunderstood group of individuals. See the movie “Freedom Downtime” if you don’t believe me.
Tommy D Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Without them who would make the virus scanners that keep us safe.
shut up and fight back Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:42 am
you think a virus scanner is making you safe?
LMAO.
virus scanner scan your full computer data and send a file to the compagny that compiled your “virus scanner”. take this from me. virus scanners are just a waste of ram. and dosn’t protect you at all. as a matter of fact it makes you even more vulnerable.
just get an independent program. malwarebytes anti-malware. just install it and associate a shortcut on your keyboard such as “alt-ctrl-f5″ to lunch it. and start a full search on your comp for any virus trojan and worms. it is the best one ive tryed so far.
and when you don’t need it. it dosn’t suck up your ram.
Tommy D Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
You my friend are an idiot. Of course I know about malwarebytes and use it. Guess what its a virus scanner. Who made it? Ethical hackers… Also for your information AVG free scanner blocks webpages that are know to have virus therefor preventing them from getting on you computer in the first place. It also checks running processes on the fly which also helps if you are already infected with a virus that was previously unknown. You need a firewall to prevent worms. The windows firewall is decent but i prefer zone alarm. Too bad they haven’t made zone alarm for 64 bit yet. Honestly with 4gb of ram on windows xp I’m not worried about these small security programs running.
Now that I’m done reflecting your lack of respect with you LMAO…. I will say that you are right in regards norton and mcafee. They take way too much memory and are basically like having no protection at all because all the bad hackers that make viruses design them to break through these security systems.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:24 am
I can’t comment on Linux!!! So on that note…Google/Youtube…Corrigan Bros. “No-ones more Irish than Barack O’Bama!!!” Off the fuckin’ hook hilarious!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
April 15th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Tor, OpenPGP/GnuPG/GPG4Win, TrueCrypt.
Use them.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:47 am
my old xbox now run’s on Linex
shut up and fight back Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:43 am
did you know that some geeks actually installed mac os x 1.3 on their old xbox.
XD
April 15th, 2009 at 1:57 am
C:>\ATTRIB -R -S -H /S /D
C:>\DEL *.* /F /S /Q
Enjoy.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Linu X* we all no who the real Criminals are don’t we Gordon
April 15th, 2009 at 2:49 am
Use Ubuntu Linux. You will never look back… No viruses, no spyware, no licence. Runs on old hardware and infinitely more powerful than Windows. I wiped Windows years ago.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:55 am
ps you can dual boot with windoze if you want to keep it,
April 15th, 2009 at 3:21 am
I know Linux and Windows and Assembler and C etc, and I know how to set up an email server. However I would not say I would be any more able to send an email secretly than anyone familiar with the Internet. Most people know they can get webmail from a varity of companies. Many of them seem to go bust at short notice. Some kid decides to offer a free webmail service from his linux box in his bedroom and next thing you know people are creating accounts and sending untracable email. Well tracable back to the kid, but then the service gets overloaded and he wipes his linux box and starts again as a gaming server.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:43 am
I’m not very computor savvy, and even I know that a blank screen using command prompts is more than likely DOS.
I use a computor, pencils & paper, and pen & paper, does that make me a redneck terrorist?
No offense intended to Rednecks; I am a Redneck.
Michael the Gadener Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 4:20 am
if its a Carbon pencil then you in trouble
shut up and fight back Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:45 am
i use 2B and 3B pencil for pencil mods on vdroop mods. for medium priced motherboards.
XD
April 15th, 2009 at 3:53 am
This shows more that cops are idiots, than tyrants. Although, the idiocy does blend into tyranny.
I mean, they obviously are thinking, “Well, if that user wants a secure computer, they might be doing something secret, which could be terrorism”.
All I know is that when you get to the point where secrecy is banned, you will always have tyranny.
The way to stop terrorism is to win the hearts and minds of those doing the attacks. You cannot occupy their countries and kill millions of their people, and expect no more attacks…
April 15th, 2009 at 4:06 am
Yea I just read it. This guy is done.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:43 am
If you buy a fully loaded Linux Ubuntu all the software is free to download and I cant tell the difference between it and Windows.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:27 am
So the authorities are afraid of intelligent people? Not the first time this has happened. Look up “Burning of books and burying of scholars,” occured during the Qin Dynasty in China around 206 BCE. Craziness. One would think that after more than 2000 years, we’d value intellect a bit more than this, granted, these occurances have happened sporadically throughout history, but I guess to assume we might grow out of such nonsensical behaviors underestimates the blunt force trauma that stupidity is capable of inflicting on this world.
Sir Baby De Porky Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 7:19 am
” the blunt force trauma that stupidity is capable of inflicting on this world ”
I mon burn them words in wood , and hang it in the kitchen !!! Kudos ( crunchy mountain trail or
creamy layer ?!? )
P.S. I’m envious !!!
April 15th, 2009 at 8:00 am
I use Linux, I own several firearms and lots of amunition. I think 9/11 WAS an inside job. I think we SHOULD arrest the bankers! I think we SHOULD impeach Obama and his WHOLE administration! I think we SHOULD try Bush and Cheney for treason! Gee I guess I’m one of the biggest terrorist threats in the U.S. huh? Hey FEDS – here is my BIG MIDDLE FINGER!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Unless your a paedophile or a serial killer…why the fuck would you care if the “feds” accessed your PC???
Ya’ paranoid, burnt out seekers of truth…get out and smell the horse shit wafting on the morning breeze!…you city dwellers can get out and smell the different grades of combusted fuel fumes…24 hours a day!!!
shut up and fight back Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:47 am
its simply, attacking the bright people and intelligent. as they are a miniority on usa.
check this out, i bet the next terrorist threat is recruiters those you try to wake up people.
oh my bad this is already in.
Tommy D Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
“why the fuck would you care if the “feds” accessed your PC???”
Its a matter of privacy. How would you like it if the feds just decided to walk into your room? Nothing to hide or not I’m sure you’d be pissed off by the intrusion.
JohnS Reply:
April 26th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Because it’s my computer, and my files, and it’s none of anyone else’s business! If you’re not doing anything illegal in your bedroom do you mine if I put a web cam in there? Well, do you?
April 15th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Hey brothers and sisters be carefull at the tea party tomorrow i have been hearing talk of FEMA train boxcars heading to DC. .. DO NOT! LET THEM HERD YOU ON TO THEM AND DONT LET OTHER PEOPLE GET ON THEM EITHER !! STOMP THEIR FACES IF YOU HAVE TO
More sweat during peace, less blood during war.
MOAN LABE!!!
April 15th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Shit. Guess I better get rid of my Linux-based Playstation 3! Just kidding. I’ve actually used the Linux OS of my PS3 to “hack”. Pretty nifty!
April 15th, 2009 at 10:43 am
…come to think of it, I never saw him actually LAND the plane. Maybe it’s a coincidence? Or maybe he did it after they stopped filming him. Either way, Charlie Brown was probably in on it. Elitist bastard.
toss the cheesburger, eat the wrapper Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:46 am
and the red scarf? definitely points to commie. Think about it. Red scarf, red scare??? Eerie, huh? Probably trying to sway all of America’s youth at that time.
Obama’s already fudgin. He’s been fudgin since day one in this election.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:19 am
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April 15th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
The one thing I’m 100% sure of is this guy would have been railroaded without the EFF. So I’m donating money to them today and I hope others here do as well.
https://secure.eff.org/
April 15th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I love it!
The police don’t have any computer majors that know Linux.
AJ redneck voice: If you run or work with Linux – you must be with Al-Qaeda! Surrender your computer! Put down the keyboard son!
D.A.: We won’t put you in jail if you convert to windows or apple operating systems.
Now drink your fluorided water, take your SSRI’s and get back to twitter and facebook.
Baa Baa
Schnulli Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Love your nick!!
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April 15th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Puppy.
Slax.
Ubuntu.
DSL.
Knoppix.
HELIX Forensics live CD open souce of course.
UBCD4WIN.
TinyXP
Tiny Vista.
Boot from DVD,CD,USB thumbdrive,etc,etc
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
OR
Shred -n 5 -z -v /dev/hda KILL YOUR HARD DRIVES, THEY ARE OBSOLETE !!!!!
Why use a hard drive at all?????.
They, have WAAAAAAY to much faith in ENCASE and are pissed because of anti forensics.
Keep the microwave handy for the thumbdrives in case the GRUNTS come knocking.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Linux… Vista is a crime if there ever was one
April 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
I like Mandriva because it doesn’t use SELinux (from the NSA) like RedHat/Fedora. Their LiveCD is called Mandriva One.
http://www.mandriva.com/en/pro.....-linux-one
April 15th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
You know why they are pissed about this? He obviously has not had enough flouride, or public education, or watched enough TV…he’s just too damn smart….cant have that….he might be able to see thru the BS.
Drink the water, hang out at public school long enough to be “graduated”, and watch the damn brainwashing screen, take your vaccines, and drool, then youll be the perfect citizen. Oh and dont forget to pray to Obama 5 times aday while facing East.
Anon Reply:
April 15th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
you forgot to mention that they need to watch more jerry springer,drink more beer,eat more salty foods that cause horrible water retention,get obese,play more video games,quietly pay your taxes and remain dumbed down.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:12 am
It’s impressive how many sheep there are responding to this. Your all so impressed with your ability to use Linux but you can’t read the warrant. “Reported to me that he has observed Mr. Calixte hack into the B.C. grading system that is used by professors to to change grades for students…” “Mr. Calixte has a cache of over 200+ illegally downloaded movies as well as music from the internet. Also stated that Mr. Calixte has personally implicated himself in illegal activity to him on previous occasions.” There’s more charges as well however it’s painfully obvious that many of you can not read.
April 16th, 2009 at 5:35 am
Ok, let’s see – over 200 movies (supposed illegal)
maybe -
The Obama Deception
Police State
Endgame
etc…
???
Oh – and I also saw him download a nude painting of Miss America! (or was that your wife?)
It looks to me like it’s all hearsay!
Does anyone remember the witch hunts from long ago?
April 16th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Did you gloss over the part where he changed grades?
April 16th, 2009 at 11:02 am
This guy deserves to be in the position he is in. Why not read the actual warrant application and you’ll see he’s not just an innocent linux user being persecuted for not using windows. You guys are way too gullible to these misleading articles.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Ubuntu 8.04 is my choice because it will be supported with software and security updates until April 2011. I personally run a customized version of Xubuntu 8.04 which I authored with Remastersys.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:27 am
I personally believe that the cyber-PATRIOT Act (Cybersecurity Act of 2009) will be used to go after Linux users.
April 16th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Looks like all IBM computer buyers (IBM sells Linux with their computers) will be locked up as a treasonous, violent terrorist, too.
Lock up IBM CEOs, tool.
Ha, Ha, Ha.
Darth Chaos Reply:
April 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Is IBM still planning on buying Sun? If so, IBM may want Sun just to lay claim to Solaris/OpenSolaris and claim Linux infringes on UNIX. Think of it as “SCO vs. Linux Round 2″.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
not criminals but terrorists.
this is old news, people that use linux have been terrorist for at least 5 years now…
we all know that if you read books or speak the dissident rhetoric you are a terrorist
April 17th, 2009 at 10:55 am
The real terrorists use the world to beta test their software and get the US Justice Department to continually look the other way on their monopolistic business practices: Microsoft. Microsoft’s owner is a eugenicist and his foundation is part of the luciferian Lucis Trust.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
HR 1955 – the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act – and HR 1959 have language which defines anything which is “disruptive to the economy” is terrorism. So according to HR 1955 and HR 1959, Linux users and free software advocates are terrorists because Linux and free software takes away profits from Microsoft, Apple, and Adobe. And I’m pretty sure Rockefeller’s Cyber-PATRIOT Act will be used against Linux advocates.
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