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Court Backs Warrantless Searches
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BENJAMIN WEISER
The New York Times
November 25, 2008
The authorities may lawfully conduct searches and electronic surveillance against United States citizens in foreign countries without a warrant, a federal appeals court panel said on Monday, bolstering the government’s power to investigate terrorism by ruling that a key constitutional protection afforded to Americans does not apply overseas.
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The unanimous decision by a three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, in Manhattan, came in the case of three Al Qaeda terrorists convicted a few months before 9/11 in a conspiracy that involved the 1998 bombings of two American embassies in East Africa.
The court did not address the question of whether the government could conduct warrantless wiretaps of international calls involving people in the United States, an issue that drove a wedge between the Bush administration and Congress. But the ruling did give footing to those who say that terrorism suspects can be successfully and effectively prosecuted in civilian courts.
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November 25th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
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November 25th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
All three judges deserve impeachment.
November 25th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
“We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
“The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies, all who question it’s methods or throw light upon it’s crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the Bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.. corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money powers of the country will endeavor to prolong it’s reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in the hands of a few, and the Republic is destroyed. Abraham Lincoln
November 25th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
3 judges + ruled by council===========COMMUNISM
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November 25th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
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November 25th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
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November 25th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
I always did believe that U.S. citizens’ constitutional rights stop when they pass across the borders. This doesn’t surprise me. It’s just a logical conclusion for the masters of the NWO.
November 25th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Another example of “legilation from the bench”.. becasue no law like this can pass Constitional muster.
I do not know eich are worse at this point, politicians, lawers(Judges) or bankers.
November 25th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Wait a fuckin’minute here!!! The Courts also ruled the The Constitution to be applicable to ALL U.S. citizens worldwide!!! Especially when it comes to sexually oriented crimes involving children!!! So WTF is it?????????????????? Sex is different??? Crimes are crimes period!!!!!!!! These fucks are playing both sides of the fence here folks!!!!!!!!!!!!To say that an American has NO Constitutional rights to be surveiled abroad when on the other hand it can be handed justice for other crimes regardless when returning home is total BuLLLshit!!!!!!!! “All ‘HAIL’ Thermal Expansion!!!”
November 25th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Great # 3! Nice quote! We need to see more of these from historic figures in American history. T. Jefferson had SEVERAL in reference to private ownership of firearms.
Yes, when in a foreign nation, we are subject to their laws, BUT we are still Americans! As such, it would seem that we should be protected by our Constitution when dealing with fellow Americans. The courts are serving which faction of society here?
I guess you saw that Cynthia McKinney was denied to EXIT the USA the other day. Why? Because she was going to Syria, or because she has been outspoken on 9/11, or because she had the audacity to run for President? Could be any or all of the above.
The courts are as out-of-line as the rest of the infrastructure.
November 25th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
It is the best past time in America, a time for celebration we should be in a state of jubilee because the great oppressor of the world has come to it’s end. The beast ravish the harlot and she was no where to be found. 232 years of imperialism and the killing and atrocities of innocent people from all works of life it can’t last forever”, just around the corner we can sing out loud praise the Lord almighty. We
shouldn’t shrink or fear and become silenced, know is the time to revive the masses and be as vocal as possible. You have seen people from all public and private sector come public, what else are we looking for.. many ex-government employees have also broken the chains of slavery and expose the inner circle so the information is following. We the people have failed miserably in intercepting the machination of the federal reserve and when the signals were there we turned a blind eye because it didn’t affect us so now this is what we have and even though it’s to late…if you and we want to get the balance back let’s go and beat the drums and make the masses listen and demonstrate. You and I owe it to ourselves and family…let’s mobilize and raise hell because this is a fight of a life time and you will most certainly not get a second chance. Many country men and woman are in a somber and they need to be waking with the beat of the drums so that they come join the struggle. We where once like them so they to can wake up also….again we must mobilize and get and make time for this timely events that are unfolding before us. In the last day’s there would be a great revival like never witnessed in the world let’s get on our wheels and reveal the real truth behind all this madness. Set aside all personal issues what ever they may be and let’s join together…together the circle is stronger and less permeable.
The enemy would like to have us disunited just like the Arabs that were caught by surprise and the fight has turned against each other. We don’t want to replicate that scenario and when it hits here at full force we are not found in that state. God almighty Bless Jones and family his at Prisonplanet and Infowars, Mckinney, Ron Paul, Dennis Kuccinich, Jeese the Body Ventura, and all who God have chosen as the mouthpiece for this revolution.
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November 25th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
10, Hillbilly. Well they are playing both sides of the fence. The truth is that many are saying that the Constitution is it, well it is, but here is the problem, the supreme court decides what is constitutional, and they vote against it so much where new laws are made and accepted. The NWo owns the banks, and owns the government and they play both sides.
The only way is to start a violant revolution and take back our nation.
We can cry, bitch and Moan all we want, but you know what we let it go on for so log. Time to fight.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
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November 25th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
What’s the damn difference if they have already started surveillance of the population here in this country much less overseas. The Supreme court is obviously corrupted also which makes the whole damn system corrupt and in need of replacement. And as the constitution states we should replace this rogue government.
The Supreme court does not decide what is constitutional they decide what to violate and how to interpret the obvious in the constitution. The constitution should be the decider not Bush or the corrupt Supreme courts, they are supposed to uphold and protect the constitution not look for ways to circumvent it.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Impeach those 3 bought and paid for bitch blackbirds!!!
November 25th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
When the dollar crashes, so will the middle class. The attack on Iran will be the tipping point. Stock up on necessities
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November 25th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
15. The sad part is that there is what should be and reality, and the reality is that it does not mean crap what the constitution says because they are making their own rules as we go along.
Reality is that most Americans will not stand up and fight because they are afraid. Reality is that only a few will stand and fight and will die quickly, because the lilitary wil uph9ld the version of constitutional law they are given.
Reality is that Americans will stand up when things are very far gone, like when they start putting people in the evacuation Centers, the FEMA Camps.
Reality is that things are going to get a lot worse.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
The surpreme court is legally bound to interpret the constitution in keeping with the sentiment of the word but you have folks so miseducated, so proud of themselves, selfish, so full of deceit, so manipulative, smug, self satisfied with how above the law that their studies have removed them from being judged, they feel that their interpretation over rides the laws of cause and effect. But the seeds of their destruction is within their own arrivals. They are being deluded by their own fixed, rigid and unrelenting misgivings.
“We see things not as they are but as we are” H.M. Tomlinson” You will be judged.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Black Shroud blinds those who see!!!! Naked before you I stand!!!
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November 26th, 2008 at 12:18 am
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November 26th, 2008 at 3:30 am
“ALL’HAIL’ “Thermal Expansion!!!!”
November 26th, 2008 at 4:36 am
the people, of the usa, must be put to death,!!! all of you,!!!
November 26th, 2008 at 6:58 am
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November 26th, 2008 at 7:44 am
I amd my door (property) stand by the constitution. Do as you will and see what happens. Make your goodbys first!
November 26th, 2008 at 8:39 am
If Obama swear to uphold the constitution and then doesn’t instantly throw out the “Patriot” act someone beter shoot him AND Biden.
November 26th, 2008 at 9:41 am
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November 26th, 2008 at 9:59 am
that was a crappy video but your heart is in the right place. Take comfort in the fact that these old racist fascists will be gone soon. How can they rule that the constitution does not apply over sees. they have no right to do that. Because the constitution ses if the Gov don’t see it here then they can’t do it. Don’t forget that the Government is made up of people, so when the government tramples your rights understand that it is actually other PEOPLE that are doing it. Find the names of those judges so we can get them fired. Or wait untill they go on vacation and start spying on them. If the government can legally do it, so can I.
November 26th, 2008 at 10:48 am
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November 26th, 2008 at 10:50 am
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November 26th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
They do this in this cunttree whenever, wherever they can get away with it. Been doing it for decades.
November 26th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
*trembles* I had a feeling that this was going on already. Plus I’ve seen the video.
…Just more of a reason why I broke down and cried in my Spanish class yesterday. After I walked out of the building, tear stains still on my cheeks … I saw some chemtrails being made in the sky.
November 26th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Do you yanks still think 9/11 were foreign, how silly you are.
November 27th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Amendment 4 – Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
The Patriot Act already gives the Government the ability to have warrantless searches; which of course is Unconstitutional and violates the US Constitution! The US Costitution should be the supreme law of the land and no other law should be above it! When those in office blatantly go against their Oaths to the American People and to the US Constitution it’s time to take a second look at what they are up too. God Save the Republic!
November 28th, 2008 at 11:27 am
When the US courts have no respect for the Constitution, we’re screwed.
Game over.
November 29th, 2008 at 2:06 am
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November 29th, 2008 at 6:17 am
“bolstering the government’s power to investigate terrorism by ruling that a key constitutional protection afforded to Americans does not apply overseas”
Reply: The government’s jurisdiction does not apply overseas.
November 29th, 2008 at 10:37 am
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November 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
What a fool you are!
Show me the passage in the constitution excluding overseas citizens from citizens with protected inalienable rights.
Article number, section number, and clause number please.
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Don’t you guys see what this means? Research the IRS and SSN, and you’ll find that wht you-and-I call “The land of the free” is actually a foreign country with regards to the Federeal Government.
This is why the Federal Government is never adequately punished for violating rights. The law doesn’t apply to them!
Well, this rulling puts that notion in plain english. We are all “enemies of the state”, and we are all “foreign unprotected citizens”. Look at a map!
November 29th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
What if we, the ones who are being pushed around (and that means almost all of us, whether we like to admit it or not) realize the power, and I mean the true and absolute power, we have.
If ONE of us complains about how our world has been hijacked by thugs and twisted evil humans, we get ignored.
If TEN of us complain, we get politely and quietly dismissed.
If ONE HUNDRED of us complain, there is a minor reaction, but it is soon swept under the rug.
If ONE THOUSAND of us complain, a fake concern is raised by those who have the power to do something. But of course, anything is rarely done, except a ‘leaders’ job-saving placation that quickly dies down.
But what if TEN THOUSAND or ONE MILLION, or, could you imagine – what if TEN MILLION raise such a simultaneous ruckus that even the most corrupt bought-and-paid-for politician or ‘leader’ has absolutely no other choice but to make the changes we demand, and enact those changes with such quick resolve that those who actually think they control this world are investigated, found guilty in a court of law, and imprisoned or put to death for crimes against humanity.
I know, its does sounds simple, but if want our world back, if we want to live in peace and harmony without a constant fear of war, violence, economic ruin, starvation, or whatever it is we fear that our ‘leaders’ use against us, to manipulate, to divide us, then we must organize, organize, organize.
Some brilliant good soul out there must know how to unite this world, unite it to take a stand against those who wish to control us and use us for their own evil agenda. We must find a way to unite not just Americans, but all other countries.
– A simple yet powerful message that can be transmitted across all cultures.
– A single unifying message that triggers a powerful passionate response.
I want my world back! And I know you do to. Its 11:11 and it’s time to wake up.
November 29th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
¯ “Oh, the times they are a changing…” ¯
Operator: Thank you for calling Pizza Hut. May I have your national ID number?
Customer: Hi, I’d like to place an order.
Operator: I must have your NIDM first, sir.
Customer: My National ID Number, yeah, hold on, eh, it’s, 3897950001-54-66689.
Operator: Thank you Mr. Phelps. I see your E-mail address is, phelps@home.net and that you live at, 8257 Private Drive. Your home phone number is, 505-7633, your office number over at Brave New World Insurance is, 254-7697 and your cell number is, 733-7433. Which number are you calling from sir?
Customer: Huh? I’m at home. Where’d you get all this information?
Operator: We’re wired into the HSS, sir.
Customer: The HSS, what is that?
Operator: We’re wired into the Homeland Security System, sir. It will add only 15 seconds to your ordering time.
Customer: (sighs) Oh well — I’d like to order a couple of your All-Meat Special pizzas.
Operator: I don’t think that’s a good idea, sir.
Customer: Whaddya mean?
Operator: Sir, your medical records and commode sensors indicate that you’ve got very high blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol. Your National Health Care provider won’t allow such an unhealthy choice.
Customer: What?!?! What do you recommend, then?
Operator: You might try our low-fat Soybean Pizza. I’m sure you’ll like it.
Customer: What makes you think I’d like something like that?
Operator: Well, you checked out ‘Gourmet Soybean Recipes’ from your local library last week, sir. That’s why I made the suggestion.
Customer: All right, all right. Give me two family-sized ones, then.
Operator: That should be plenty for you, your wife and your four kids, and your 2 dogs can finish the crusts, sir. Your total is $49.99.
Customer: Lemme give you my credit card number.
Operator: I’m sorry sir, but I’m afraid you’ll have to pay in cash. Your credit card balance is over its limit.
Customer: I’ll run over to the ATM and get some cash before your driver gets here.
Operator: That may not work either, sir. Your checking account is also overdrawn.
Customer: Never mind! Just send the pizzas. I’ll have the cash ready. How long will it take?
Operator: We’re running a little behind, sir. It’ll be about 45 minutes, sir. If you’re in a hurry you might want to pick’em up while you’re out getting the cash, but then, carrying pizzas on a motorcycle can be a little awkward.
Customer: Wait! How do you know I ride a scooter?
Operator: It says here you’re in arrears on your car payments, so your car got repo’ed. But your Harley’s paid for and you just filled the tank yesterday.
Customer: Well, I’ll be a #%#^*^&$%^$@#!
Operator: I’d advise watching your language, sir. You’ve already got a July 4, 2006 conviction for cussing out a cop and another one I see here in September for contempt at your hearing for cussing at a judge. Oh yes, I see here that you just got out from a 90 day stay in the State Correctional Facility. Is this your first pizza since your return to society?
Customer: (speechless)
Operator: Will there be anything else, sir?
Customer: Yes, I have a coupon for a free 2 liter of Coke.
Operator: I’m sorry sir, but our ad’s exclusionary clause prevents us from offering free soda to diabetics. The New Constitution prohibits this. Thank you for calling Pizza Hut.
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LOL. Thats pretty good. Hope it never comes to that!
November 30th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
YOU ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION AND YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE ON THE UNITED STATES CORPERATION! SOUNDS CRAZY?? LOOK AT YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE IT’S ALL IN CAPITOL LETTERS, THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE A SUB-CORPORATION
OWNED AND WORKING FOR THE MAIN CORPORATION, THE UNITED STATES. iF YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME LOOK INTO MATERIAL BY JORDON MAXWELL, OR GO TO THINKFREE.CA and YOU WILL SEE, WAKE UP & SMELL THE FACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:35 am
So what else is new! They have been doing warrantless searches and warrantless electronic surveillance for ages. As long as everybody had money in their pockets,beer in their bellies,T.V.,sports ect.ect. nobody cared. Wholesale violations of the Bill of Rights,have been going on since before I was born and kiddies that’s a long time ago!
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 am
the Electronic Frontier Foundations is fighting stuff like this in court… look them up. 70% of funding comes from individual donors.
December 7th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Well dread, were not far off from that.
February 21st, 2009 at 2:14 am
The supreme court judges and congress are hereby guilty of TREASON under
18 U.S.C. sec 2381.Wake up americans, your traitors in government have declared war on you.
Demand your State succeed from the Union,and let the U.S. corporation go insolvent.