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Daniel Pipes: If Obama Wins, Bush Will Attack Iran
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
June 7, 2008
In the above video, produced by NRO TV, Daniel Pipes gives us two choices — either launch a “unilateral strike” (a neutral term for mass murder) or join the neocons “in being very serious with the Iranians and making clear to them we will attack if they don’t stop” developing a nuclear energy program.
Pipes, who believes Muslims are “brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and not exactly maintaining Germanic standards of hygiene,” of course prefers the former over the latter, as neocons are determined to flatten Muslim and Arab countries, destroy their culture as they are destroying it in Iraq, and pitch millions of people into a pre-civilized condition, or at least one minus the amenities of modern life.
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Daniel Pipes realizes the Iranians will not stop developing nuclear energy and they have the right to do so under the terms of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Pipes and the neocons also realize Iran’s Bushehr nuclear power plant, built by the Russian, will begin operating this autumn. “Under the agreement with Russia, Iran is to return spent nuclear fuel rods from the reactor as a safeguard to banish fears that Iran might misuse the rods to build nuclear weapons,” reports IRNA. “IAEA is the monitoring mechanism for everything we do in Iran in the area of nuclear power plant. The entire project is under IAEA control,” said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
The neocons do not trust the IAEA and, besides, the idea is not to prevent Iran from attaining nuclear energy but rather providing a pretext to bomb the daylights out of the country, same as the neocons-in-waiting bombed Iraq during and after the so-called Gulf War. Prior to Bush Senior’s invasion, Iraq was the most advanced country in the Arab world, now it is on par with sub-Saharan Africa. It is all part of the neocon plan, developed in partnership with the Israelis, to fragment and balkanize the Middle East, as sketched out by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters (see his map, published in the Armed Forces Journal, June 2006).
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Finally, Pipes said the neocons will attack Iran in the remaining ten weeks of Bush’s term if Barack Obama is elected. Pipes seems to think Obama is an Iran appeaser, never mind he has demonstrated hostility toward the country, most notably while addressing AIPAC. “Sen. Barack Obama said Friday the use of military force should not be taken off the table when dealing with Iran, which he called ‘a threat to all of us,’” the Chicago Tribune reported on March 3, 2007. “Obama said global leaders must do whatever it takes to stop Iran from enriching uranium and acquiring nuclear weapons…. While Obama wouldn’t rule out force, he said the United States should engage in ‘aggressive diplomacy combined with tough sanctions’ to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear threat.”
Earlier this week, again going before AIPAC, Obama said there was no greater threat to Israel than Iran. He also accused Iran of supporting “violent extremists” and pursuing a “nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race,” according to the Jerusalem Post (see video). “The danger from Iran is grave and real and my goal will be to eliminate this threat,” he declared, the AFP reported. “The Iranian regime supports violent extremes. And challenges across the region. It pursues a nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race.”
Obviously, for neocons such as Daniel Pipes, this is not enough.
Besides, they want to do it their way.
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June 7th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
I See… The Artists Are Fightin’ The N.W.O… NOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT4gfAn6vms
June 7th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Iran probably already has nukes, from the Russians, especially on submarines.
June 7th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
This video answers my question “what does evil look like”? It does not get much worse than this cat. His observations and opinions give no consideration to the sovereignty of Iran, or the implications and “blow back” from the rest of the world. Don’t leave home without your helmet!
June 7th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
funny how bush says nuclear energy is the answer for the worlds energy problem.
and in the same breath the bastard says Iran shouldn’t be allowed to have nuclear
energy, what should they use oil and coil? the oil bush is stealing from the world,
or is it that the neocons want to use nuclear energy as the answer to the worlds
problem and have full control over it all.
June 7th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Obama has to go along with the angenda,they made sure he wolud do nothing else.
June 7th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Obama you sack of s---. Builderberg’in bastard.
June 7th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
what hypocritical bulls---. It’s incredibley obvious that MR kissinger was pushing some obvious scare tactics on falsified and intentionally misleading information. Kissinger should be walked through every town in america and flogged.
June 7th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
don’t listen to this nobody, who the hell is this trans-sexual?? he’s just all talk and has no credibility lmao!!! he was named pipes because he always has a cock stuck in his hahahah!!
June 7th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Ah, appealing to America’s racist population by throwing in “brown-skinned”. And you know, there are still a lot of blindly racist fools out there. Basically look at the people who supported Clinton.
I JUST CAN’T BELIEVE RACISM IS STILL A MAJOR ISSUE IN THE UNITED STATES.
Actually, yes I can, because the people are idiots.
June 7th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
RACISM as American as:
a) Slavery
b) Reservations
c) Manifest Destiny
d) Spheres of Influence
e) Apple Pie
We very well may be the strongest nation to ever see the light of day on the planet Earth to date and we like to pound our chest about how groovie we are yet, when it comes to social issues and everyday quality of life issues….
As far as being ahead of the curve ask yourself why the instant either Obama or Hillary was accused of running their bids for the big chair on either skin color or being an Egg-bearing American the public did not ask the larger question why the heck do we lag the rest of the world in this regard?
June 7th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
So what are we going to do about it. All I see from Alex Jones radio-broadcast is a message of fear, that lacks the heart of true activism. I was first awakened by prison-planet I still support Alex Jones because it is awakening many people, but I think we should separate ourselves on group-thinkers. It is very dangerous to rely on one source of information, since their really isn’t any calls to rise up but only the waves of fear. And when you constantly relay fear to the people without any hope or balance, then apathy can be a result.
I say again I do not critisize this movement, but I think the content of speech should be more about how we can bring change, instead of focusing entirely on what the globalist are doing. The result of this are the listeners only becoming listeners, instead of doing something productive.
I rather not focus on the connection of the Genesis network being a affliliate of ABC, because that is also unproductive. But I ask men to think for themselves, and if their is criticism of my speech, it only means you are a conditioned thinker. Peace with infowars, and Alex Jones they still do good work, but lets become our own leaders.
June 7th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
May God help USA.
We need a federation of Israel-Plaestine soon with one man one vote. We can’t waste more time defending the Israeli’s foolishness attacking another country. Iraq war was started by Israel Lobby; we are the one who is paying for the war by our blood and money.
June 7th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
HA they want us to believe Iran will NUKE Israel if capable. Well I got news for these morons. The DOME of the ROCK the most holy temple in the world outside Mecca is in Israel. So why would anyone think Iran a musslim country. Why would they ever NUKE Israel. Their story does not add up. Just admit you want to control Iran and their resources to save the USD dominance as the worlds reserve currency…. They don’t want to just destroy Americas economy they need to destroy the worlds economy.
June 7th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
who the hell is Israel to me scared of Iran having nukes anyways. Israel has nukes them self… so who should be afraid of whom.
I just hope America doesn’t blindly march into another war
June 7th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Pipe is an alien!!! And what country dropped 2 A-Bombs so far??????? This is all a bad nightmare and these aliens need to go to jail for 9/11.
Pipe’s and these morons are the biggest danger to humanity.
June 7th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
bush punt the ball haha ya right hes controlled by grey aleins! hes gonna bomb iran
June 7th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Clark Says:
June 7th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Pipe is an alien
June 7th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Keep in mind people that Daniel Pipes is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). If
you don’t believe this go get the History Channel DVD documentary “Secret Societies” or the
“History Decoded” series. As for the Presidential candidates, I think neither the AIPAC stooge, 32nd Freemason Barack Obama nor “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran” John McCain (CFR) would be a good pick for this nation in regards to America’s Mid-East policy. As I have watched the primaries of the past few months, I have truly believe both political parties the Democrats and Republicans as well as the mass media are controlled by a “hidden hand”or “The Establishment” (CFR/TLC/Bilderberg Group/Skull & Bones/Bohemian Grove/Illumanti/Jesuits). This is because I could see it in the way they treated Ron Paul on the Republican side and Hillary Clinton (Bilderberger) on the Democrat side. Both Obama and McCain were picked for their Pro-Israeli and Anti-Iranian stance!!! Either way it’s a win-win situation for the so-called “Powers that be”and
the “MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL-CONGRESSIONAL-COMPLEX”!!!I greatly fear that if we attack Iran or another “9/11″, “Gulf of Tonkin” of “U.S.S. Liberty” type of event is staged ( perhaps both) ,
America could be placed under MARTIAL LAW and the DRAFT will be reinstated. But hopefully I’ll be out of the country !!!
June 7th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
This show is such a illusion. Here we have countless updates of the nwo, mean while Alex Jones is looking like a slob, man if you were serious you should be in shape, get more active show some activism in the streets, instead on displaying your speech abilities on air, leading the people on a wave of emotion and thought, when you should be uniting if your all so damn passionate, sure looks like it. So do something, instead on relying on someone else to feed you this propaganda of fear, while he gets filthy rich off the idea
June 7th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Ohbama can suck a dick. Mc CAINE all the way. ohbama is a BEOTCH. obama is nothing but s--- IN A BOX AND HE DOESNT KNOW HOW TO RUN THE US. MC CAINE POWNS. this beotch wants to take every rich mans money and give it to the poor he can suck a fat dick. F OFF OHBAMA YOU STUPID DICK
June 7th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
I think Alex Torres is right.
God bless Alex Jones. He aided in so many awakenings…and it is so revealing that he and only a couple of others are at the Bilderberg gig.
But, man it is time for a face lift…or, better yet, a credibility lift.
Bullhorns. Tee shirts and sun glasses. Confronting elites and screaming at them. Bad mouthing the country. Instilling fear. EXAGGERATING.
Two words: Bush League.
Just the truth with do.
June 8th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Obama scares me and not because of the color of his skin. That should have been gone long ago. No, it is because he talks about “change” but what kind of change. He never, or at least I have never heard him say, what kind of change. It could be for the worse. He wants to pass this Global Poverty Act and if it does pass, the tax payers will be taxed more and more than they already are. So I don’t trust him. Don’t trust McCain either because I believe he would be a Bush III.
June 8th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Gee, I wish I could watch these videos.
June 8th, 2008 at 12:24 am
They clearly are offering us the lesser of two evils once again. obama will be better and more extreme if we reject mccain, but if we choose mccain he will continue his work for the globalists. That said, what are you going to do about it today, yep thats what we thought.
http://www.TacticalWarfighterGear.com
June 8th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Obama….2009
“I swore ‘I’ wouldn’t start any mid east wars, but hey since we’re already here…. ”
“… thanks George! ‘WE’ couldn’t have done this without a little help from or NWO handlers.”
June 8th, 2008 at 2:27 am
we are all f---ed
June 8th, 2008 at 2:36 am
Dan should have added:
If Obama doesn’t win, McCain will attack Iran
or
If Hillary wins, the Muslim world will become absolutely enraged by the thoughts of having to put up with threats by a women.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:13 am
“Alex Jones is looking like a slob, man if you were serious you should be in shape, get more active show some activism in the streets”
LOL. Alex just attended the Bilderberg 2008 to protest. What more do you want asshole? One man can only do so much. Also, your comments about his current state of ’shape’ are laughable. Not everyone’s perfect, not to mention this infowar isn’t about superficiality, it’s about getting the word out. So f off and go back to watching America’s Top Model where you can judge people by their looks and not their fruits.
Dick.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:28 am
i don’t get why Iran isn’t allowed Nuclear tech..? who else isn’t allowed?
June 8th, 2008 at 3:49 am
Hey, Alex. I don’t know why some people are attacking your character?
Perhaps they really are shills or God knows what else (imps?). People with organized intelligence cells or smaller off-shoot motivational anti ‘matter-of-fact’ groups, that I may guess are in their own way working overtime doing things they feel are worth fighting by over running the system.
I’d prefer to take the high road, myself.
Alot of those who do support Hillary and McCain are now getting desperate.
Most sound as if they got the brains kicked out of them once too often in school or just sit around and eat all day with nothing better to do then start something.
No matter the response, Alex Jones has more guts to want to find the truth as much as people who are losing the fear to accept it.
Keep’em coming shills. Just remember that your time is still running out.
June 8th, 2008 at 6:02 am
This is really going to suck if Obama gets in the whitehouse. Problem is is he chooses Hillary as his running mate then we are all screwed, and GW will have his new man in the whitehouse (Obama).. I personally would take Hillary over Obama.. Lesser of the two evils.
How’s this for a conspiracy theory.. Obama becomes the president.. Some crazy racist redneck decides to take him out. Bush blames it on terrorists and we are in Iran..
June 8th, 2008 at 7:06 am
WTF_ed , you know nothing on the Clinton’s shady past.
Even if you did, would it matter?
June 8th, 2008 at 9:11 am
So this election will be about who can demonstrate most convincingly that they are eager to lock us into a suicide pact with Israel. Give them a blank check for any provocation, don’t require them to work out a peaceful solution to the decades of hatred they have fostered by their high-handed, one-sided policy with their neighbors, and pander pander pander to the nest of disloyalty to this country and its welfare that is AIPAC.
This outfit, more than anyone other than Sharon and the Likudniks, has converted me from a supporter of Israel to one who thinks that karma is going to catch up to them and they will atone, just as we are currently atoning for not paying enough attention to the aims of those we elect. And it is not over by a long shot.
June 8th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Whether Obama “wins” is utterly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The agenda has been set, replete with numerous contingency plans. It’s up to us Americans as a whole to stop playing into their figurative game of chess and instead thwart the evil threatening us.
June 8th, 2008 at 10:06 am
I hope Obama has big enough balls (he is a black man) to say NO to the NWO manipulators who think they can still run the show..I really he isnt incorporated. God Bless Alex for the protest, and you people who just complain need to shut up and do something constructive for the movement.
June 8th, 2008 at 11:16 am
It seems every President ends up leaving the Whitehouse with alot of dirty laundry on the floor.
Jimmy Carter seems to be the only one who is trying to make changes for the better. And out of all the standing and former Presidents he is the only one who tries to draw attention to Israels negative behaviour and is critical of countries that are not in negotiations for true peace.
Later on, after he left, the only President to ever condemn the zionists , he ended up being hated by America and forced to leave the Whithouse. He was seen as a wimp.
Nowaday’s it would seem the only people who get in are corrupt to the core.
Will America step away from it’s love for war with Obama leading the way?
To be realistic, I highly doubt it.
America is now under the control of the now private military industrial complex. it’s a big time money maker next to your love for all drugs.
And if Obama doesn’t go along with the program, he will (for sure) be dealt a bad hand by the media / Blogs / church and other hi-jacked communications outlets.
June 8th, 2008 at 11:18 am
The odds are just too much against him.
June 8th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
These evil cochroaches are going to create a nuclear winter!!
June 8th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I think mother nature is gonna beat them to it.
June 8th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
if you use firefox you can view the vids
June 8th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
How very, very strange!! Some people criticize Alex Jones for his direction in exposing the truth and even have the audacity to aim at his physical appearance. AJ is a patriot who has the documents to back up his statements– you myopic, pathetic, tostito- munching slobs out there. You know who you are. Our government has been hyjacked by a criminal element/s and proof of the one party system with two factions, doing evil deeds is widely known throughout the world, except to some sheep (outspoken) here. Wake up!! Your first step to taking action is to refrain from making personal attacks against AJ or other patriots. You could have a big snoz or pimples on your butt, but you are anonymous. No one here cares or is slowed down when others just can’t get their head out of the sand. Start reading and talking less spontaneously!.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Whoever wins Iran loses. It will be attacked if anyone but Ron paul or Mike Gravel wins. Fact.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Many of you have questioned whether AJ is for real. I can only attest to some facts which I have witness myself personally and can vouch for him as he is real. But, you must understand that the difference between Alex Jones and Martin Luther King or Molcomb X is huge. Like King or MX these men not only inspired their respective groups they called for massive mobilizations on the streets and began proactive community organizing. These actions threaten the status quo on the street. Organizing one on one is a vital tool of each movement with out this tool you can rant and provide all the information you can. Heaven knows there are many books around that tell the reality about. But, how many are there that actually unite and bring coalitions to work to getter on constructive action. I refer to the Iraq War Veterans and the work they actually do which is proactive to educate and mobilize the community. Same as the Coalition Against Military Recruitment in High Schools. These groups should receive the most attention and community input, because of the nature of their organizing to impact directing contradicting the war efforts of the NeoCons. If you can stop the recruitment of additions troops to the war effort than this go a long way to stop this maddening war.
Everyone of you belongs to a city and you have your representative local leaders don’t let them off the hook. Be vocal and active protesting and calling them out. Write, telephone, etc, do everything legally possible to inform others and work together each of you has the power to talk to others around you and help in bring them together in groups to plan city actions.
And here is another tip join your city commissions these are volunteer action groups and once you join you’ll have a voice to influence city council. You’ll be surprise what you can do. I was nominated to be on our local police citizens advisory committee and have access to the chief and his lieutenants and I have informed them of the police state and given them and council Alex Jones DVDs. We have had talks and meetings and I can honestly say they are divided in ideology as the general population. But, they do not want to be part of any future police state and are as frustrated with what is happening to our country as we are. They by their nature are to enforce the laws and congress is by their nature to make laws and we by our nature elect leaders. If Alex Jones runs for office his got my vote.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Alexander Torres CHANGE starts with YOU. Sorry buddy Alex can’t do everything. And if you are not scared (not in panic) there are two types of fear. (survival fear) and (panic fear) survival fear is good and panic is almost surely a death sentence. Ask any professional scuba diver. The only way we win is through knowledge. We got here through ignorance and we will win this thing by knowledge.
Like Alex says yes be afraid you should be. But be a patriot and prepare for the worste. Alex is not everything. Everyone contributes in what ever way they can. Just DO DO DO and stop talking talking talking…..
WAKE UP PEOPLE
June 8th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
malcom x was a rat rapists POS, Martin King was alright, pretty good at making speeches , but not many follow him today, though he scared the powers that be enough to kill him along with the Kennedy’s…because they could influence people and both John and Martin wanted out of Nam.
I don’t see any redeeming value in a muslim rapist, other than he was murdered by another worse muslim…louis calypso….obama/osamas mentor.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
You’ve heard the saying…………. the better of the two evils. well, I don’t trust Iran any further than I can throw them and I trust Bush even less so where does that leave us?
June 8th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
what is the difference between this guy and jeffrey dalmer, charles manson..etc….no really this guy is a f---ing psychotic murdereding…sociopath
June 9th, 2008 at 1:18 am
What do you mean “if” Obama becomes president..?? Now we all know there is less than a snowball’s chance in Iraq that Obama will become the next president..
It is soooooo gonna be McCain.
Diebold 2008…
Does that mean Iran wont be invaded or attacked when Mcain wins..?? Oh..I get it..There has to be SOMETHING left for him to pillage when he gets in office.
June 9th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Somebody posted that Genesis is an ABC affilliate. That’s like saying, you’re an Apple or a Microsoft affiliate, or your an AT&T affiliate depending on your ISP. Genesis pays to USE their satallite, that’s it. If you ride in a cab made by GM, that doesn’t make you a GM affilliate. There’s no way they can Diebold McCain in. He doesn’t have enough momentum to make it look like a close race. Why would they wake up more Americans, when Obama/Clinton will give the appearance that we still have a vote, and they’ll do the globalist agenda just as well if not better.
June 9th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
obama is cfr.. he will follow the script .
June 10th, 2008 at 3:35 am
Is this guy insane or what? WE (USA) have no business in the Middle East period. If Israel has a problem with Iran, let THEIR military take care of it. I say no more foreign aid, no more foreign bases, no more foreign wars. We trade with all nations and have alliances with none of them. Goodbye NATO, goodbye UN etc.
June 10th, 2008 at 7:51 am
in the bible it eludes to devil as a cry baby who destroys things when he/she doesnt get their way. Its sad that such childish behavior occurs in elitist inbreds. It must be GENE DIFICIENCY!
June 10th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
@ alex torres:
Jones has always said, as much as i can tell, that we need to motivate each other and ourselves if we are goin to make a change, that we cant rely one him alone, we have to want it for ourselves…
if i had the funds i would set up a small cache of arms and a training camp based on survival and revolution, but it does take quite alot of money these days short of ingenuity and capability to make something out of nothing, inspiration from magiver lol, if i could make a gun out of wood and a bullet out of sand then all i would need to do is teach ppl how to fight, and id be set, other then that i need mula in order to do so…
but then again fighting physically is only one way to make a change you can use other means as well, but i gather that things are so bad you need a combination of everything just to make a dent in this fiendish plan they have been developing for several centuries…
im willing to do what it takes, but i cant do it alone, we need to get most ppl involved if we want this to happen.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
This trash brings up Henry Kissinger! Who cares what that piece of crap says he’s a criminal he’s not even a traitor since he’s from Germany!
June 11th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Get ready to give up your young to help make sure the state of Israel is safe. They can protect themselfs.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Henry Kissinger is actually a KGB (FSB) agent, it is documented.
NO matter who stays in office, we are going to attack Iran. This has been the plan for a VERY long time! If you let your kids join the Military, be prepared to say your FINAL goodbyes! They will not likely return outside a pine box!
There are dozens of “DUAL CITIZENS” of ISRAEL/AMERICA who will force your kids to do the bidding for them. Your kids would be much more useful if they were to stay and fight the NWO along side the parents of the truly Patriotic people of this land!
June 11th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Bush and company will attack well before the November elections. We are hearing increased rhetoric and outright threats against Iran almost everyday. I believe that they will attack sometime in late July or late August. This way the few months before he leaves office will give McCain the boost in the polls and the possibility of winning the elections and/or it helps him by making Obama part of the middleeast quagmire and force him to keep with the wars and give Bush cover by in essence agreeing with what he did over the years in Iraq. Because if he stays in Iraq Afghanistan and Iran, he agrees with push policy. This is Bushes hailmary pass to his legacy, even though it won’t help. He’s attempting to Obfuscate the issue by saying two presidents can’t be wrong, it just takes time.
June 12th, 2008 at 7:38 am
Alex J, I must commend you on your valiant efforts to show th truth at all costs. I am Canadian and I have watched most of your documentaries and I know that Canada is USA’s shadow. Where the USA goes we follow. So anyone in the U.S. that is so ignorant of what is happening, better wake-up and fast. I’m preparing myself and others for the fight they are engaging us in. I hold talks at my personal training studio and try to inform as many people as possible about the agenda our governments’ have been planning from the dawn of time. Alex I once again commend you on your courage and insight to help bring out the truth “By any means necessary!”
All you AJ haters are just showing your fear of the truth and lack of courage to search for the truth. Go and investigate deeper than the mainstream and I guarantee you will see ‘the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth!”
Stay strong
June 17th, 2008 at 6:59 am
nuclear threat? we have more than enough warheads to blow up 100 earths probably. i mean seriously, who is more of a threat than us? or the hired armies?
america, the biggest terrorizing deciders of the so called free world.
it just goes to show you, it’s all part of the game. all these world leaders are like pawns on the chess board. one moves, the other moves, and it looks like separate entities with separate agendas. but in reality, it’s just the illusion of choice and motive. there is no difference. whether you roll left or right, they have a plan for both courses to see that everything unfolds as planned. we’re sitting stationed on both countries that are surrounding iran. iran has the holy kabaah, a sacred religious relic that has it’s ties in ancient secret societies and suppsedly they are a nation who has not shook hands with the freemasonic influences of our NWObankers. it’s hard to say all the motives intertwined, but i’m sure that there are always multiple goals underway at the same time. it’s not like 9/11 was the first planned mega ritual of it’s kind. just a series of experiments from the same twisted freaks.