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‘Darwinian medicine’ in focus at World Health Summit
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October 19, 2009
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In focus at a World Health Summit, which finished Sunday in Berlin, was evolutionary or Darwinian medicine, which aims to help doctors and medical researchers recognise that humans have evolved down the ages.
The body “is not a machine, like a machine designed by engineers, it is shaped by natural selection and has flaws in different pieces,” said Randolph Nesse, a pioneer in the field from the University of Michigan.
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October 19th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
The Heart is your guide, your head is a computer. These people are insane, follow your heart.
Ozzy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
You went to Icke’s event too?
SoCalSurvivor Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I have known about advanced meditation for years, it’s how you protect your head from the mind washing. Ike just figured it out like it is a big secret..I am glad he did..
GO inside your heart, give it a try, close your eyes and force your energy into your heart, anyway you can. Picture a guy walking down your spine with a key, opening the door of your heart and stepping inside if you have too. The open the door of your heart to the universe.
Then ask simple, IS there anyone here? and then you will here..”Yes”
Fooch Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Outstanding. My friend was telling me of someone, of whom I can’t remember the name, and she isn’t recalling the correct name she told me about, maybe you can help me. When I was flying, she told me of some guys name that dealt with pretty much what you are talking about. She mentioned something to the effect of that when I fly, I want to…(trying to recall) put myself in a blue squre, then put myself into a orange tetra-dedron and then another shape with another color. Might this limited iformation spark anyone’s name?
Ozzy. I did go to Icke in Vancouver. It was pretty awesome.
The Game Changer Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
What morons these people are! You would think that with their Ivy League degrees that they would have some actual sense. Why are the supposedly most intelligent people absolute nitwits when it comes to real-world practical sense?
The reason disease is on the rise is because of dramatic increases in toxicity in our food and water. We eat tons of products manufactured with genetically modified corn. High fructose corn syrup is a major toxin in the body. Corn-fed beef is toxic because of the genetically modified nature of the corn in addition to antibiotics given to the cows and the bovine growth hormones.
We eat sugar and salt that are chemically processed to cause major health problems, and many municipalities have water poisoned by fluoride. Your grandparents didn’t live in a world where everything they consumed was poisoned.
Get real, folks. There’s a reason that Codex Alimentarius and other abominations are being ushered in. This is a plan of the global elite. If you really want to know why they’re doing this, you can learn the real secrets behind all this stuff.
Click the link below, take the challenge, and join up! You won’t be the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ajstG4AkM
“Man’s mind once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions.” – Oliver Wendell Holmes
Kayhla Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Combine your meditation with martial arts and you get even more benefits ^^
free2dissent Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
$5,000????……..I thought my soul was worth more than that. Guess it’s not just house prices that have fallen.
free2dissent Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
uhhh, is that empowerment with a t at the end?
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:53 am
combine meditation with self reiki and u can almost fly
Clay Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Darwin was smarter than Jesus.
bullsh!t Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
HAHAHA
darwin is a HACK, wash-up fucking jerking off who accomplished NOTHING. Why don’t you follow his lead and go live on an island or something. Maybe you’ll evolve too!! HAHAHAHA
Carter Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Wow, I sure hope you were being facetious. If not, you probably went to school in America, were taught nothing and still believe in God and the fairy tale told in the bible. The level of ingnorance of some people is utterly amazing. Remeber, people thought that the earth was flat for a LONG time after it was discovered to be round. Try reading a book sometime.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Carter, you need to read the Bible before you criticize it. It’s amazing how little you know about science and how it was revealed before the Bible was ever printed. Here you go with your flat earth stuff… The Bible was banned in the dark ages when people were denied copies of the scriptures that they could have for their own, or they would have known what we know.
Right up your alley here. What does this scripture say to you, written long before the “flat-earthers” existed?
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: 23 That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.
"I Have No Brain Yet I Must Think" By Harlan Ellison Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:13 am
“Darwin was smarter than Jesus.”
No Darwin was an idiot caught up in excessive thinking to the exclusion of all else, including common-sense, reason and conscience.
It’s no wonder he recanted his evolutionary nonsense in a later book.
Check your history.
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Darwin was close friend to Rockefeller and the theory is fake like most Illuminati main stream theories like we are alone etc. most science is a feritale compare to the bible. people dont understand that bible is about other smarter specie (gods) that could do so called miracles which really is just advanced physics like levitation curing the blind etc
Darwin became Christian Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:36 am
What is funny is every time they bring up Darwinism and evolution, the end result is that Darwin became a Christian in his last years before passing. Google it.
Now, how ironic is that? To jump up and say Darwinism is great, when in the end, it turns to Christianity. haha
Darwin’s Christian Bible is now on Display even, but you don’t see it on the news and you don’t read about Darwin turning to Christianity in the last years of his life and that he regretted ever coming up with Evolution.
So your text and your media are controlled, your box controls your life.
However, those of you who didn’t get brainwashed, you now know the truth.
I wonder if they will bring that up at the Health Summit. Anyone want to appear and shout, “DARWIN BECAME CHRISTIAN!!”
undtektid Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:33 am
the silva mind method is #1 in my honest opinion….search it out.
Gandhi Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
People belive what they want to belive. The news agencies just make it easier to justify their stupidity.
Mr.T Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
That does seem to be the nature of people. Scientific method demands that we test our assumptions rather than accumulating evidence for them. After all, look and ye shall find. People should really study credibility more to get a good grasp of what it is.
Andy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
thanks Mr T !
"I Have No Brain Yet I Must Think" By Harlan Ellison Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:15 am
“People belive what they want to belive. The news agencies just make it easier to justify their stupidity.”
Whereas you of course, don’t. You are above all that right? Except you’re not.
Methinks me spies a hypocrite.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:51 am
All you have to do is look at the “fruit” of people’s beliefs. There was a man who stood up in my church and said “I didn’t see Jesus turn water into wine, but in my life He turned beer and cigarettes into furniture and shoes for my children.” That about says it all. When following the example and teachings of Jesus, peace and great consequences are seen. But it has to be real, it can’t be ’show up in church on Sunday and live like hell the rest of the week’. THAT is hypocrisy, and that is what we’re seeing in the majority of humanity. Do Christians fall flat on their faces? You BET they do! But the difference is that a sinner sins and loves it. A Christian sins and hates it. Then they pick themselves up and go on and do better.
This should be abundantly clear to anyone who is truly searching and not just trying to justify their own beliefs or lifestyle.
October 19th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Evolution is a fact, not a theory. Visit any museum of natural history and see the evidence yourself.
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Evolution asserts that the first speck of life on Earth arose by itself from inanimate matter. All matter on Earth is composed of basic chemical elements. An element is a substance made up entirely of atoms of one single kind, and cannot be simplified or decomposed by ordinary chemical means. Is there any trend toward evolution among the elements on earth? No, for atoms are generally found to be either stable or, in the case of some, in a decaying trend until they turn into an element that is stable. This fact harmonizes with the scientific principle called “entropy.” This essentially means that there is a tendency from the highly organized downward toward the less organized. Never is there and increase of order without an outside force. To illustrate: will the elements of Earth, left to themselves, ever produce an automobile, or even a simple gear? To the contrary the elements remain as they are. When they are fashioned into a machine by man, even the machine, when left to itself, begins to decay. For another illustration take a large barrel and put into it bits of steel, glass, rubber and other materials. Turn the barrel thousands of times and open it. Would you ever find that the materials by themselves had produced a complete automobile? All you would ever find is a mixture of the materials, no matter how often you tried the experiment. From this fact we can conclude a fundamental truth. Inanimate matter on Earth simply does not search out a way to improve itself, but tends toward the state of neutralization or stability. Nor, will an appeal to immense periods of time help. Time produces decay, disintegration. It results in corroding metals, eroding cliffs. Time is destructive, not constructive. It is the enemy of evolution. The principle of inertia also confirms this. Inertia is the tendency of all objects to stay still if still, or if moving, to go on moving in the same direction unless acted on by some outside force. A ball will not pick itself off the ground and throw itself to the catcher. A wagon will not move by itself unless acted upon by s superior outside force that could give it direction and organization. Biological living matter cannot spawn from non-biological nonliving matter
Garys neighbour Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
shut us looser
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Then how do you explain the fact that you are a community of different types of cells, all working together as a whole organism? Our observations have proven that all life on this planet has evolved from single-celled organisms toward more complex organisms. How did this come about, if not via a process of gradual change occurring over millions of years? Are you suggesting that humans just popped into the world out of nothing, just as they are today? The fact is, the evidence of evolution is all around us. The process takes periods of time far too long for mortal creatures like ourselves to witness it.
KC Patriot Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
So let me get this straight. You believe in evolution. Therefore, you must by default believe in the big bang, correct? Furthermore, that would mean that you obviously believe we share a common ancestry with maggots, bacteria, chimpanzees, etc. – am I right?
If you believe that (as many textbooks indirectly claim) that literally nothing exploded, somehow numerous elements were formed through physically impossible means, galaxies, stars, planets, etc. all formed by chance, it rained on the dry, barren planets for hundreds of millions of years and turned the rocks into some form of primordial “soup”, which spawned life from non-living material and here we are today…. then I pity you.
There is not ONE PIECE of evidence that can prove evolution in any way. Try and test me, I’ll disprove anything you can come up with.
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I shouldn’t get into this. WTF. Ok, explain to me what all of those dinosaur fossils are. Are they hoaxes put in the ground by god to deceive people so they go to hell? That would be real nice of him.
Explain to me why god created carnivorous animals. That doesn’t exactly imply that god is a peaceful vegetarian, does it?
If god didn’t create carnivores before the fall, why do we not have fossils of T.Rex with vegetarian teeth? If Smilodon did have canines before the fall, what did it use them for, scratching it’s ass?
Why do we share 98% of our genetic makeup with chimps? Another deception by god? I thought god wanted everyone saved. Why would god want to deceive us? Again, that’s not very nice of god.
Why did god create humans with body odor? Tooth decay? Why did god create humans (and all other animals) so that we have to urinate and defecate? Every time you plop down on the toilet, ask yourself why god would create its greatest creation, its beloved children, so that we have to engage in this gross, highly undignified act every day? Did Adam and Eve have to urinate and defecate? Did their shit smell?
I could go on.
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
All animals were created before man, the dinosaurs did exist as have many animals that have gone extinct. Some even during our modern era
roaddog6 Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
kc—I believe in evolution, but I sure don’t believe in the big bang hypothesis. We came from prokaryotic cells, then to eukaryotic and natural selection did the rest. As far as the big bang, it didn’t happen. Its the steady state as said by dr. hoyle. Space is infinite, always was and always will be. Can you wrap your mind around that?
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
the Alpha and the Omega
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
rh positive blood factor, over 98% identical gene sequencing to chimpanzees. i can’t stand it when people shun science for the sake of their mythical god, but will use science in a second to save their lives. and why are they so apt on living, eternal salvation, correct? on a note related to this article… the people who are medicated will not evolve any further. and when the proverbial shtf, they will die, without having any type of coping skills.
Fooch Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
I think the notion of evolution vs creationism is self limiting. I don’t buy either, the question is, what would the other idea be?
My own theory, is that well…the thought that we are the only ones in the universe is just silly.
We can now clone. Fact. We have the technology to travel to Mars. Fact. I personally believe that we have the technology to travel in a highly sophisticated manner (if you listen to what the Germans were developing in the Bell Project by the Germans prior to WW2 by Joseph Farrell and others), we could find a planet in the future. If, our species didn’t kill itself, which IS possible, or for another universal entity which is where I’m going. So, if we, or someone else was able to clone a specie and find suitable life on another planet elsewhere, why is it not possible to create life ourselves else where. Now, give yourself thousands of years and I don’t think it’s as hard to believe as, to quote someone else, “A fish decided to become an amphibian and crawl out on the land. So it grew lungs and limbs and walked out of the water. No, it did NOT. It flopped out of the water – and died! Think about for a minute. EVERY system in the body would have to evolve simultaneously and in a way that would sustain life from one biosystem to another. And there would have to be enough of them to survive predators and illness. Not possible.” And, I don’t think POOF, there was Adam and Eve.
Yeah, I open myself up for getting blasted, but I’d like to hear some other way beyond these two ridiculous notions of my existence besides what I’m given to believe.
Mr.T Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
This is an eloquent example of how knowledge restricts theory. If you aren’t willing to get past the first theory, creationism for example, then you’ll never collect evidence for anything else.
Case in point, many fish have their lungs on their skin. Afterall absorbing oxygen is easier outside than breathing it in. THAT had to happen after we reached a certain size, because our lungs needed to be bigger than the entire surface of our skin and also needed to be protected.
My own personal 3rd theory, is that reality does naturally occur by means that we cannot yet understand and is located outside of our universe and ability to detect. Life will go on, there is no reason to believe it will stop entirely as i think it is a naturally occurring stage of entropy. For reasons occurring in nature I think we will ultimately find that reality is able to experience itself.
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:10 am
we were made by reptilians/annuaki/gods;evolution now is made in Dulce NM when they try out new specie everyday for the Earth and other planets .we only allowed to live as long as our gov keep on saying we are alone on earth an UFO are high speed weather baloons
J.A.F.O. Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
To all of the less educated here, The Theory of Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with theories regarding the big bang or Cosmology as a whole.
K.C. – The Theory of Evolution (theory in terms of Scientific Method, not whatever bullshit they teach you in Bible Study class) up until now, has not been disproved, thus the status of Theory (again, think scientific method definition of the word theory). If you can disprove it, you would be a Noble Laureate, guaranteed. Quoting scripture does not apply. To the rest, it would behoove you to actually understand the The Theory of Evolution before arguing about it.
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
You watch to much discovery channel history channel and bravo. There exist a law among all living things that has no expectations a law that science has clearly verified. As noted by Scientific American:”living things are enormously diverse in form, but form is remarkably constant within any given line of descent: pigs remain pigs and oak trees remain oak trees generation after generation.” here are some words you should look up:Adaptation,Hybrids,Hereditary and Mutations and if you want Clone How can altruism be explained by the theory of “survival of the fittest?”- (Romans 2:14,15)
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
That’s because pigs and oak trees have already evolved to become pigs and oak trees. The process by which these species emerged from lower life forms took millions of years. Modern pigs have prehistoric ancestors, just as we do, and those ancestors were different. Those ancestors evolved over millions of years from single-celled organisms to the species we call pigs (porcine). The fact is, humans and pigs are genetically very close. That’s why pigs are used in laboratory experiments on drugs for use in humans.
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:14 am
the only think that evolves are our thoughts that is about it
zebra always be a zebra fly always be a fly rest is fake rockefeller sponsored useless clueless mainstream science and medicine
Bruce Lee Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
You are a moron…Why do you think they teach organic and anorganic chemistry?
john Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:41 am
That’s “inorganic” chemistry, but they obey the same rules of physics.
lz74 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Very well put! I think it is so sad when people throw common sense out of the window so they can be led like lost sheep to the slaughter.,….
anyway you articulate common sense very well THANKS…
For you people that dismiss proof and common sense… Your soul is at stake wake up
Fooch Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Evolution of people in the sense of that we evolve spiritually, physically and mentally is fact. However, the notion that we have evolved from apes is not. They do not have that proven, and they know this. We didn’t come from apes, and we didn’t all descend from the garden of eden either.
The so called “truth” that is shown to us that which benefits, or, does no harm to the establisment which is governed by the elite. To paraphrase Jordan Maxwell, “the things in this world do not operate and function like you think they do”
Fooch Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
The so called “truth” that is shown to us IS that which…
*the importance of proof reading should never be underestimated.
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
If you can prove that spontaneous generation is a fact, then I’ll accept evolution as a fact, because evolution can’t start without it. Of course, spontaneous generation has already been disproven by Louis Pastuer over 150 years ago (OOOOPS)
BUT, lets all pretend we live in your fantasy world where life arises from non-living matter. For evolution to perpetuate itself, you have to have positive mutations. But that’s been disproven by modern biology. (OOOOPS) Mutations only scramble up and/or add existing dna, they don’t produce anything NEW or BETTER. Mutations are either harmful or fatal to the organism that has them. For a better feel for what they really are, we call mutations in the human genome BIRTH DEFECTS! Certainly not the kind of evolution you probably had in mind…..LOL
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I never said a thing about spontaneous generation and neither did Darwin. In fact, there is nothing about evolution that is incompatible with a belief in God. One could just as easily say that God was the “prime mover” that put it all into play. In fact, many scientists take that view, such as cosmologist Robert Jastrow. How is that any less a “fantasy world?”
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
And Darwin commented that the notion that the human eye came about by chance was absurd. Your making absurd statements based upon your absurd preconceived bias in favor of the idiotic notion of evolution, therefore you see everything as having evolved, with absolutely NO proof. Only speculation, preconceived concepts and bs. And don’t say that I am stupid and uneducated. I am a college math professor (my weakest subject), with a double major in geology from UT Austin in Austin, and my IQ is 150+, but a smarter and much more famous person who knew that evolution is stupid was Issac Newton, who was a young-earth creationist and wrote more about the Bible, and prophecy than he did about math and science.
Oh come on!!! Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
You jesus-people are just too stupid! Ever heard about fossils? The evolution of ..humans for example can be traced. The missing link isn´t missing, and hasn´t been for a long time.
..and I can´t buy your 150 IQ. Rubbish. …probably american version of the IQ test, so you guys wouldn´t need more antidepressed drugs than your taking already.
…why am I even bothering with talking to halleluja-person? I might as well argue about the local sportsteam or something.
bullsh!t Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
you’re arguing because your a sad human being with nothing better to do. How sad
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Well, professor, you’re in need of some remedial history, since you don’t seem to know Issac Newton had been dead for 82 years before Charles Darwin was born, thus he knew nothing about evolution, to begin with and couldn’t have had an opinion on it.
The fact is there is abundant proof of evolution and that’s why most scientists accept it as fact. As I said, you can walk into any museum of natural history and see the evidence yourself. Biologists who work with viral pathogens know there is evolution; they work with it all the time, tracking mutations over thousands of generations of viruses. Stick to math. You know nothing about evolutionary science.
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Darwin evolution is a scam to hide the truth of our origin so they can keep on manipulating and enslaving us .All of you people who believe official Darwin theory just take the official scientifically proven swine flu vaccine we wont miss you…
dpeddy Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Gary, please find some modicum of shame and quit proving the age-old axiom that states “It’s better to stand there and look ignorant, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”. I wouldn’t say things in public unless I knew them to be true, and you just talk out of your ass all of the time. First, the idea of evolution has been around at least since the time of the Greek philosopher Dimitrius, it just wasn’t called evolution. Newton was well aware of the concept when he was alive, and rejected it outright, as did all of the first-tier scientists in Darwins day. Secondly, I have been to your temples of natural history (smithsonian 3 times) and have seen the so-called “proof”, which only makes sense to those who ALREADY BELIEVE in the false religion of evolution. You keep making the common mistake of equating natural selection and genetic mutations with evolution. You obviously do not understand your own precious world view. The biologist you speak of interpret what they see with their built in bias of evolution. Viruse mutate quickly, yes, so we should see them turning into something else, but they don’t……all mutations do is scramble up the already present dna that evolutionist cant intelligently explain the origin of, and cause the organism to be less fit than it was. They start as viruses and end up viruses, nothing has evolved……get it? And the ones that you say evolved to something better end up killing their hosts, which is the exact opposite of what so-called nature would strive for.
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
The Miller and Urey experiment from 1952 showed that spontaneous generation is not so unthinkable. Mutations are not always harmful, that is absurd. One modern example of advantageous mutation is the color change of the peppered moth that resulted from industrial revolution black soot that covered trees in England in the late 1800’s.
Funny how you think that evolution is a fantasy, yet you believe that Jonah was spewed out of the mouth of a whale, donkeys can talk, a person can be born of a virgin and god parted the Red Sea.
I don’t pretend to have all of the answers, but you certainly don’t have them either.
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
So if I get a tan I have evolved ?
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Don’t be ridiculous. Once the trees were covered in black soot, the speckle colored butterflies were more noticeable to birds. Over several generations they turned a darker color so that they would not be picked off so easily by birds.
Oh come on!!! Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Why do you think black people are black?
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Black people arent just black ,they are different specie like Asians are not just yellow etc. They were made by different highly advanced specie called Syrians. Theory that black people became asian when they went to Asia and then white when they came to Europe is a sorryass main stream science fairytale
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Was that the one in which they placed the raw materials (amino acids, proteins, minerals etc)believed to be present in the primordial sea into a container and passed an electrical current through it to simulate lightning? As I recall, the result was that enzymes and bacteria began to grow on the inside of the container after the current was passed through the primordial “ooze,” proving that lightning could have been the force at work that caused life to evolve from inert matter.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
P.S.: Eric J. Lerner, along with the late Hannes Alfven, championed the plasma universe model. For more info see:
http://bigbangneverhappened.org/
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Yes, that’s the one. I believe it’s been repeated numerous times since. Several amino acids were “created.” Of course, it’s not absolute conclusive proof, but it’s pretty darn interesting.
Oh come on!!! Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:25 am
They didn´t create bacterias, or life, but all the building materials. The thing is that this experiment took place over ….well.. some years probably, but the primordial soup was there for billions of years. It´s like playing the lotto. Not much chance of winning, but if you play for billions of years the odds are that you´ll eventually win.
….the spark of life is creation of a gene. A molecule with ability to duplicate itself. Just like the genes in ourselves. Are the genes in your cells alive??? Not really, but they create cells and lifeforms.
Check out the book “The selfish gene” by … hmm… Dawkins or something like that. Interesting view of the whole process.
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Let the force be with you
dp Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
wrong again, nothing but amino acids that couldn’t support life because they were both left-handed and right-handed and you cant have life without all being left-handed. No bacteria, again, as I have already posted, the entire affair was fallacious, as they set up the experiment that didn’t represent the “original earth” even as they believed, lol
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
The peppered moth in Britain is often used as a prime example of evolution. It is claimed that within the last 100 years the moth evolved from the light color to the dark color in order to be better camouflaged against a background turned dark by industrial pollution, thus protecting it against birds.
However, has organic evolution occurred? Is the moth changing into something else? Or is it still a moth, remaining in the moth “kind”?
Indeed, no evolution has taken place at all, as can be seen by comparing the two varieties illustrated above. The dark variety is a moth just as is the light variety. No matter which variety survives better, they do not change into a different kind of organism. They always remain moths.
Once again, variety within a basic kind of living thing has been misinterpreted as organic evolution. In fact, none has taken place.
Do you have another modern example of evolution?
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
My own theory. Darker moths were attracted to the darker trees for protection and within these trees were light colored moths that were much easier to see during mating thus giving you your dark colored moth offspring.
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
That mutation occurred within a few years. Give it a few million years and you get change to the point where species do change. But I know, you think the earth is only 6000 years old. I could find other examples but what would be the point. As Gary pointed out, viruses mutate all the time to their advantage. By the way, is “kind” found in the Linnean taxonomic system?
Here’s a better question: what proof do you have that god made a donkey talk?
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
When did I say earth was 6000 years old?
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Plus the serpent and the ass and the burnning bush never actually spoke they were used as a medium like a tranquiliquist does with his props. You don’t think animals talk do you because if you did thats pretty odd.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Over how many generations would that change have occurred? Where humans are concerned, one has to consider that there are, on average, about only four generations per century, so the changes in human beings occur over a very long span of time; too long for us to observe. The fossil record, however, clearly shows the changes that occurred in our hominid and pre-hominid ancestors, though.
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Oh yeah my friend, let me take you to a third world country and lets see how easy it is to find humans with the same type of deformities like your ancient bones.
Jonah Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Time is the evolutionist’s God. Anytime you prove their theory is full of shit, they just say we need more Time, the earth isn’t millions of years old, no, its BILLIONS of years old, yeah thats the ticket.
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Yes, and the virgin birth, talking snakes and donkeys, turning water into wine, raising the dead, turning a woman into a pillar of salt and stopping the sun in the middle of the sky for a day are all scientifically plausible. Yesiree bob. How was that whale ride, BTW?
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:38 am
you making fun of it but its all possible with the advanced physics of alien specie so called gods ; Science people are scared of other smarter specie because it would make their theories looked childlike and useless
dp Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
wasn’t a whale goofy, it only said a great fish. Please read things before making a complete fool of yourself on these boards…..
free2dissent Reply:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....annel_page
Garys neighbour Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Gary is so full of shit his eyes are bulging this is from someone who knows him personally.
never listen to this guy no one takes him serious around here.
Intent Gaze Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
I think Gary is a pretty smart guy.
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:38 am
ya so is my dog
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Lets not belittle people who have been fooled into believing the lie of evolution. I once believed in it too, because I had never questioned it and trusted the people who taught it to me. I was just as sure of my facts then as Gary is now, and it took a lot of study and the ability to eat crow and humble pie and admit I had been fooled too, before I could change my world view. You must understand that evolution is not science, it is a religion, and is an integral part of many peoples world view, and they will guard it like their sisters cherry, pardon the expression. LOL
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I’m curious as to just what you “studied.”
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:43 am
exactly that is why theory is called theory. when u start researching nothing is like in the books they teach in universities ; medicine and science dont start from scratch they built on others fake theories that is why they coming up with fake results…
Garys neighbour Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Garys really a women!
Oh come on!!! Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
How many women is Gary, you say?
"I Have No Brain Yet I Must Think" By Harlan Ellison Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:17 am
“Evolution is a fact, not a theory. Visit any museum of natural history and see the evidence yourself.”
Garbage. It’s a theory which twists fossil history to come to mostly insupportable conclusions.
You are brainwashed.
sobber Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:45 am
star and flag for you ,Alex needs to add rating system so gary can always be rated accordingly
October 19th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
In refference to Oath Keeper’s Article. I have a task for like minded patriots. Get on the phone and call Alan Maimon from Las Vegas Review Journal 1-702-383-0404 and ask him why he painted American Militia groups as racist trying to tie them in with Timothy Mc Veigh and why he’s calling us conspiracy theorists when its no longer a theory. Ask this guy why he failed to mention anything about our President getting ready to sign the Copenhagen Treaty that is going to succeeding our Constitution. Come on guys!! Lets get up and and do something time is running out!! Let your voice be heard!
birgit Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
no, guys too busy gawking at the play offs.
America has been mentally neutered long ago…they’re going to wait for the next elections…cause that will fix it all AGAIN
G R O A N !
October 19th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
People in thw West ar emore susceptible to asthma etc because of the higher level of impurities in the air through industry and car emissions. I don’t see what Darwin’s study has to do with anything.
If anything I think Darwinism is on it’s head: healthy people who are too lazy to work get dental care, health care, family allowance, money from the gov. Whereas someone like me who works hard get to pay for them things theirselves plus a great tax to pay for the lazy good for nothings who whine and complain, those are the ‘useless eaters’. The poor’s rate of childbirth far exceeds that of the rich due to profession and upbringing, the gap increases.
john Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
I’m sorry but something has to change. I know of underage girls in the UK who get pregnant purely for the benefits. Darwinism? There has to be some kind of change in benefits, we are incubating the filth!
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
I used to work with disadvantaged youths in Buffalo. The sheer amount of teen pregnancies in inner cities, mothers and fathers (if the father is around, usually not) who are drug addicts, gang bangers, developmentally disabled, mentally ill, crack addicts, on welfare etc. is beyond freaking belief. It’s a social and economic disaster.
One can say that it’s not their faults, that it’s the fault of the NWO who have let conditions so greatly deteriorate in our inner cities. That is probably the case, but you are right, something has to change. If I could adequately relay the horrendous conditions that these babies are born into, not to mention fetal alcohol syndrome and children who are born with developmental disabilities and/or mentally ill because their parents were d.d and/or m.i (didn’t always happen but it certainly increases the chances), people here might not think in such black and white terms. The sheer pain and suffering that these kids go through because their parents were damaged goods haunts me 4 years after the fact.
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
It all started when God was removed from the public schools and the bible was replaced with books like “Billy has two daddies” and “I used to be primordial soup”
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Dude, the church is very active in inner city/minority neighborhoods. That fact hasn’t seemed to stem the tide of social breakdown.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Yes, and an engineered disaster, at that. Most of it has occurred in the last thirty years or so. Believe me, it was a rarity in the fifties and sixties, when I was growing up.
TRUTHWARRIOR Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
You might be aware that your tax dollars mostly go to the military-industrial complex and to the bankster bailouts which pay for huge bonuses for the ultra-rich. We can critique the welfare state in some rational ways, and argue over what sort of welfare policies would be most just and efficient toward the larger economy, but if you actually believe a large part of your tax dollars go to “pay for the lazy good for nothings” you’re just really ignorant.
Neocon Narc Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Wherever the money is going…is it working???
Go ahead and think you are NOT a terrorist, you pay taxes, you are funding the wars.
Read the news…it has funded all wars since becoming the dollar for oil exchange.
When Obama signs Copenhagen Treaty, it is every patriotic citizens job to defend the constitution from all enemies.
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
i bet those rc spy bugs were pretty costly.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
“I don’t see what Darwin’s study has to do with anything.”
Exactly. It has nothing at all to do with these economic forces being discussed here. The term “Darwinism” has been completely misappropriated.
October 19th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I’m not sure whether Infowars is trying to imply that an evolutionary approach to understanding disease is a good or a bad thing.
It is scientific fact that evolution occurs (the flu virus evolves into new strains for example) and understanding how viruses evolve is an intelligent approach to trying to combat them.
The previous commenters method of applying gut feeling rather than logic and intelligence is flawed and has no place in medicine. Create a hypothesis and test it using logic to discover whether something is true or false.
The political agenda behind this is unknown (e.g. forced innoculations) but mans thirst for knowledge has allowed us to combat diseases succesfully for a long time now. Smallpox has been irradicated thanks to scientists taking novel approaches to problems.
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Sorry Scott, somebody lied to you.
Evolution is NOT a fact, in fact it is merely an untested hypothesis. (a stupid one, at that) You and others view the world with a pre-conditioned bias, and interpret data accordingly. Viruses don’t evolve. It started out as a virus, and it ended up as a virus. All it did was mutate, making itself less fit than before. 99.9 % of all mutations die, but 1% are still able to live. Unfortunately for us, some of those mutations kill us, which is REALLY not advantageous for the virus, because it dies too. Not really good “evolving” is it??? LOL
Please don’t confuse evolution with science, because it is a religion also.
As for immunizations, they are the biggest hoax since the Federal Reserve Act. They haven’t irradicated ANYTHING. Those so-called irradicated diseases are STILL HERE! They seem vanish because of improved sanitation and diet removes the conditions for them to thrive, but they are still around! No disease can kill any human with a healthy immune system and the means to sustain it. It may make them sick as all get out, but a properly functioning immunes system will eventually kill it.
Scott Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I wrote a long reply to this, but then realised there is no arguing with stupidity.
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
When you can honestly tell the world that you taught yourself to read when you were 4.5, did fractions in the 2nd grade, taught yourself calculus at age 15, quantum mechanics when you were 18, figured out a new way to calculate the mass of a photon at 19, get a double major in math and geology at a major accredited Texas university, with math being you weakest subject, and go on to teach math at the college level because its fun and enjoyable, and your IQ is COMFORTABLY higher than 150 on the Stanford Benet Test, measured at age 14, you can call me stupid. Of course if you weren’t so biased in favor and so vastly ignorant of the stupid notion of evolution, you would at least try to counter my above noted facts, instead of engaging in ad hominem attacks. And next time, don’t lie about writing a “long reply” in order to sound hip; it only boors the truly intelligent people engaged in the debate on both sides of the subject…….
Scott Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
here’s some evidence for you http://www.newscientist.com/ar.....e-lab.html
Scott Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
and some more http://www.scientificamerican......2009-10-18
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
As we both know, a high IQ is a measure of latent ability, not necessarily knowledge. It is more a measure of one’s ability to think and reason, memorize, etc. Having said that, anyone with a high IQ (and that includes myself) can remain ignorant as hell on any particular subject. The one you’re lacking in is science, with particular emphasis upon evolution. Face it, you’ve never really studied it and don’t know much about it. Anyone who says an entire field of study that has been the life’s work of generations of scientists is somehow “stupid” has obviously invested very little time or effort in learning anything about it and has rendered an uninformed opinion that is on a par with that of a child. You might also learn how to spell “bores.”
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
In other words “my mind is made up; don’t confuse me with the facts.”
The issue here is about asthma and obesity. Those two things are caused by the environment. They have nothing to do with evolution. Both are negative consequences caused by the body’s reactions to what’s put in our food, water and air, and the vaccines. Period.
lz74 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:35 am
is that the best you could respond with, ” I wrote a long reply to this” ? all of you evolutionist must have evolved from eachother you all seem alike. Unwilling to accept sound proof and data but would argue tooth and nail for theory based science with holes all in it. Maybe your hidding something or doent want to be accountable for your perversions. I hope your not some perverted sexual deviate that can accomplish goals easier by accepting you only answer to yourself. Not accusing just saying i hope that is not you
Fooch Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Well, I think “infowars” stance on this is irrelevant. It’s information. We decide what to make of it.
I think you need to specify evolution. I agree that viruses evolve, but not humans. You may or may not feel the same when you speak of evolution as you did in your frist six words.
I practice medicine, and I wouldn’t be so quick to throw out one’s “gut” feeling, because I have used logic and intelligence and have been bitten when ignoring my intuition, which you call “gut”. Intuition has every right to be emplored in medicine. If you practiced medicine, you would understand this.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Viruses don’t evolve, if evolution means upgrading to a higher form. They mutate. Nearly all mutations die. Even the results of cross-breeding, like the mule, are sterile, and they don’t reproduce. Look it up.
It takes more “faith” to believe in the humanistic religion of evolution than it does to believe that a loving Creator fashioned all this for His own pleasure and the pleasure of humankind. Darwin came up with this laughable pseudo-science because he wanted to exclude God from the equation, thus excluding himself from accountability TO that Creator.
There should be millions of ‘transitional forms’ in the fossil record for all kinds of animals – but there aren’t. Those that were “discovered” were proven hoaxes. And if the “transitional form” was a male, where is its female or vice versa? And don’t give me that malarky about asexual reproduction and the male seahorse carrying the babies. That’s too much of a stretch between sea life and humans. Again – no transitional forms.
A fish decided to become an amphibian and crawl out on the land. So it grew lungs and limbs and walked out of the water. No, it did NOT. It flopped out of the water – and died!
Think about it for a minute. EVERY system in the body would have to evolve simultaneously and in a way that would sustain life from one biosystem to another. And there would have to be enough of them to survive predators and illness. Not possible.
One really does have to throw one’s brain in the trash to accept the Darwinian theory of evolution – and I stress THEORY!
Fooch Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Spot on. I think we are about as close in thought as they say humans and monkeys are in their DNA. The only difference I think is perhaps symmantecs. (sp?) My statement of the evolving of viruses is related to the antigenic shift that occurs, and how bacteria can develop antibiotic resistance. Thus, it is an evolving of sorts. However, I definitely..like you don’t believe in any notion that some fish flopped out of water and went from one pond to another. It amazes me that you have these “intelligent” people with PhD’s who believe this. Now, not trying to put them down, but man…it seems the more left brained people are, the further they are removed from the truth in some regards. For instance, I have several left brained scholars who are clueless when it comes to what is going on with the NWO. You know, the “sky is not falling” bit. Yeah, right!
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
A fish decided to flop out of the water and become an amphibian? Yeah, that’s indeed absurd. We are talking about a process that involved multiple minute, gradual changes taking place over a time period of thousands of generations.
Yet, you believe that 144,000 male virgins (who were not defiled by women – I didn’t know having sex with a woman defiled you – chalk it up to another barbaric misogynistic rambling) will sing before the throne of god and the 4 beasts. Okay.
Scott Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Of course a fish didn’t flop out on land and start breathing air – evolution can take millions of years. I’d be interested to hear your theory about how we have such diversity.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
I believe in the biblical account of creation. God is wonderfully creative and diverse in His designs. Shouldn’t that be enough for anyone? So simple a little child can understand it, but so complex that it will take all of eternity to know His mind!
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
What about Tiktaalic and Archaeopteryx?
There should be millions of transitional forms? Given the millions of years passed, we’re lucky to have any fossils. Of course, for each transitional fossil that is found, Christians say, “Ah ha, now where are the transitional fossils before and after the one just discovered.”
There are multiple thousands of fossils. However, you believe in the virgin birth, talking donkeys and Jonah being spewed out of a whale’s mouth, all of which claims are not supported by one shred of evidence.
Darwin believed in god and in his younger years had thought about becoming a minister. He was initally disturbed by his findings as he felt that they conflicted with his faith. However, being intellectually honest, he had to pursue his quest for knowledge. He teeter-tottered re: his faith in god for the remaining portion of his life, partially due to the death of his 10 year old daughter. You might want to do a shred of research before you claim that Darwin was some evil atheist.
I could say a whole lot more, but what’s the point.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Viruses evolve, but not humans, eh? So, you believe that humans are some special creatures that exist outside of nature and natural laws?
The link between ancient fish and land-dwelling species was an amphibian. That would be one of the first things you’d learn about evolution in a grammar school setting. I knew this by the time I was about seven.
buddywhasisname Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
“logic” isn’t so logical dude. Depending on ones agenda……anything came be construed as “logical.” I mean…….do you think it is logical to put chemicals in our food so food producers can cut costs. Some would say yes….some would say no. Logic can lie to you….while your heart or “gut feeling” will not. (granted some people go too much from their heart and through away logic as if not needed) I believe that the two need to be fully integrated if we are to make any decisions to better our world.
logic + intuition = Wisdom
That’s my take on it anyway….feel free to disagree.
Love and wisdom to all
Scott Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Good point – neither is as good as both combined
October 19th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Evolution Theory came about during the same time when the spontaneous generation theory was in place. People at that time because of the spontaneous generation theory thought flies spontaneously generated from meat. Learn real science dipshits. Don’t accept something as fact because some double speaking professor said so.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
evolution is God’s law of change…
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
One can certainly look at it that way. There is nothing incompatible between God and evolution, contrary to what most “Christians” believe.
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Sorry Gary, but your as lost as a golfball in a wheat field with that statement.
Gary Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:00 am
As I said in my earlier reply, which has been removed by some bigoted asshole at Infowars, there are plenty of Christian scientists who have no problem with evolution, including Robert Jastrow, the cosmologist.
dpeddy Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
For the record, nobody’s post should be deleted on either side, but my God did it right the first time, he doesn’t need billions of years, and a bunch of evolutionary dead ends to get the final product. Jastrows and apparently your god must be retarded. BTW, there are plenty of Christians who are also scientists that know this as well. And yes, I have several of Jastrows books, so dont say I dont know who he is, and you might as well know now, that I have a personal library of 876 books, 54 of which deal directly and/or directly with evolution, so stop trying to say I dont know about evolution, or biology, or other subjects, because you are just talking out of your ass when you do that and making yourself sound completely stupid, which I don’t think you are. Misguided, but certainly not stupid.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Evolution is a theory not a proven fact. Just because there is a correlation between two variables that doesn’t prove the cause. Scott evolution is not mutation.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
It IS a proven fact and you are simply ignorant of it, that’s all. Evolution can be seen on a cellular level in viruses, which have such short lifespans that we can observe mutations occurring in them over time. Human DNA also mutates, on the order of about one mutation per century, but these are usually miniscule mutations that don’t cause any outwardly marked effects. I’m the founder of a surname DNA project that traces relatedness between lineages of a particular surname (mine). In that project there is one person, so far, whose Y-DNA sequence is identical to mine except for a single marker. That one marker represents a single mutation that occurred sometime within the last 600 years. Basically, what it indicates is that this member and I share a common ancestor who lived at some time between now and the 1400s. If evolution didn’t exist, none of this would be possible to know. In fact, our species wouldn’t even exist, in the first place.
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
That’s not evolution goofy…..that is genetics….not the same thing. WHERE did the genetic information come from? The environment cannot impart it, mutations don’t produce it, so WHERE???? Sorry to be rude, but YOU are the ignorant one here, when it comes to evolution, because so far, you have confused it with natural selection and genetic variation, none of which either are, nor prove biological evolution. And again, sorry to be rude
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
What do you think is at the base of evolution? Genetics. Every living thing has DNA, you know, genes. Tracking changes in genes is one of the ways in which scientists study evolution in organisms with very short lifespans. You see, the more generations we can observe, the greater the chance of observing mutations and it is genetic mutations that cause a species to evolve. Genetic mutations are the underlying process by which evolution occurs. By the way, you might want to take a remedial English course…or two.
dpeddy Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Again, you are confusing mutations with evolution. Common mistake. Mutations are always harmful or fatal. They never produce anything new, and certainly not better. Where did the information come from? You have no mechanism to explain that. Genetic mutations in humans are commonly called BIRTH DEFECTS, they don’t make better humans. Read the book “Not By Chance”. It is a little technical, but it really shows that mutations do not cause anything to “evolve”. One lab irradiated 80,000 generations of fruit flies to cause mutations to get them to “evolve”. They didn’t. Big surprise there……..almost all of them died. The ones that survived weren’t as fit as the non-irradiated ones. Another big surprise……We see the same thing with microorganisms.
bullsh!t Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
listen to this fucking jerk off. Listen to what I say or your ‘ignorant’
Well you are simply an ASSHOLE who likes to push his ‘opinion’ and ‘point of view’ on other. Go fuck yourself gary!
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
No, you don’t have to listen to me. Apparently, you’re quite capable of being ignorant whether you do or not.
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
And the bible thumpers here who arrogantly and continually try to ram their faith down our throats are any different? At least Gary provides you with evidentiary-based arguments – all you can do is curse him out. That’s weak.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Darwinian Medicine was proven wrong with both Einstein and Hawking.
Neither of these scientist would be alive if Darwinian was right.
Where would humanity be if eugenics was right in eliminating the weak,gay,incest,handicapped, and undesired??
The same place America would have been if we never had the melting pot that made us so diversified??
This group of eugenics would be the death of humanity because they are all so stupid to put all their eggs in one basket.
They only fight over the earth, when the universe is full of many resources and our only chance of surviving the next earth disaster like the dinosaurs had.
Imagine if only T-Rex’s had existed and no crocodile or other surviving species??
This is not the only planet and not worth killing each other over.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
No, it wasn’t, sir, and you are completely ignorant of not only Darwin’s work, but that of Einstein and Hawking, as well. Eugenics has nothing to do with Darwin’s work, either. Eugenics is the misuse of everything Darwin discovered. Would you condemn the field of radio electronics just because our military is now using LRAD?
KC Patriot Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Evolution and eugenics go hand-in-hand pal. Hitler wanted all of the Jews to die because he considered them to be an inferior species, or “mostly ape”, while he considered blacks to be “predominantly ape”, thus why he tried to exterminate many of them as well. He believed he was furthering the process of evolution by murdering millions of people.
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did the shootings at Columbine on Hitler’s birthday on purpose. One of them had a shirt on that day that said “natural selection”, and on their video recording telling of their plan to murder these individuals, they said of one of the boys they intended to kill that “He doesn’t deserve the jaw evolution gave him. Look for his jaw. It won’t be on his body”. Since evolution was heavily implemented in public schools, the crime rate in this country has skyrocketed. Teenage pregnancy has skyrocketed. This country’s moral compass doesn’t exist anymore and when it all comes down to it, the ideals that caused it are all greatly influenced by that BULLSHIT theory. And if you seriously believe it, then you need help. From a psychologist and of course from our creator, God. Wake the fuck up buddy. Watch Kent Hovind’s seminars on creation, seriously. If those don’t wake you up then you truly are lost.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
KC, the elites don’t even want “intelligent design” mentioned. Because that would mean accountability to a “creator”. It is in direct opposition to their philosophy of “do as thou wilt.” The satanic lie.
You are right about the moral decline. I’ve lived long enough to see a major decline.
If we are just animals, then any type of behavior can be justified. If we are created in the image of God with a moral compass, then man is no longer justified in acting any way he wants without answering to that higher power.
If people want to imitate the behavior of animals, then what is so wrong with imitating the like of swans, wolves, etc., who mate for life? Why must it always be the destructive behavior that is imitated?
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Well, there’s no denying that we are animals. We’re simply the most intelligent species on the planet, that’s all. But, we do have, hard-wired into us, a moral sense. That’s the gnawing feeling you get when you know you’ve done something wrong. Whether God put it there or not is another matter.
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Ok, so you need the fear of hell to keep you from violence and immorality? The crusades, the inquisitions, the witch burnings, child molestation by Catholic priests, not to mention the Rwandan priests who hacked babies to death doesn’t exactly support your claim.
Martin Luther, founder of Protestantism, advocated expelling the jews from Germany, burning down their synagogues and physical violence towards them. He wrote several books on the “jewish problem.” Hitler admired Luther as cited in Mein Kampf.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Again, you’re equating “religiosity” with true followers of Jesus Christ. Born-again believers in Jesus DO NOT advocate murder in any form, nor torture, nor slavery.
Jesus said there would be few who would find that narrow way that leads to life. All you’re doing is lumping in His true disciples with those weeds to whom He will say “Depart from me for I never knew you.”
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Yeah, that’s some stellar plan alright. Satan 6 billion – God 100, 000 (give or take of course). And uh, you don’t see a problem with that? I guess you wouldn’t as, of course, you will be one of the sheep (as opposed to the goats). How humble.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
babs, you totally misunderstand. I have found THE way. It’s not MY way, or maybe I could have some kind of pride about it. Millions have found that way, not just 100,000. But many multiplied millions more have chosen to go their own way, which is really the broad road to destruction – satan’s way. Who am I? Just a beggar, pointing other beggars to the Bread of Life – Jesus Christ. I can’t force anyone to go to Him. All I can do is tell them where I found it.
The devil is cruel. The NWO are cruel. They don’t care that people die in their sins. In fact, the NWO is just as deceived as the common joe who follows his own path and not God’s. “There is a way which seems right unto a man, but the end thereof is the way of death.”
I don’t pretend to understand everything there is to know about God, and I don’t pretend to have all the answers. But I know personally, the ONE who does! If what I want to know has not been revealed in the Bible, then I’ll wait and ask Him when I get there.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
You know nothing about evolution, eugenics or Hitler, for that matter. Please, crack a few books on each topic.
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Funny how the most religious Christians in the south during the 1800’s advocated slavery.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
True Christians, the ones who follow the teachings of Jesus, don’t advocate practices that harm their fellow men. Not slavery, not the inquisition, none of that. Where my beliefs contradict the word of God, my beliefs are what’s in error, not the Word.
You’re confusing namesake protestantism with true biblical Christianity, which is a relationship with God the Father through Jesus Christ. Better check facts again!
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Yes, I’ve heard that many times before. Funny how the divine word of god can be so thoroughly and easily misinterpreted and twisted. Funny too how so many Christians down through the ages somehow got it wrong, but a few Christians today have gotten it right. St. Augustine, supposedly one of the greatest Christians who ever lived believed that babies who were not baptized would burn in hell forever.
The fact is as I’ve noted before, you do not engage in vile behavior largely due to the European enlightenment and the subsequent moral evolution that it engendered (genetics and uprbringing help of course). Many people today continue to be shocked when hearing about Hitler, and yet, as most of us here know, his racist/eugenics views were fairly common for the time period amongst the elite; they were also common amongst the masses. Of course there is still racism, but the average person today would be appalled at the prevalence of racism 100 years ago, even 50 years ago obviously. This moral evolution is inspite of, not due to, religion.
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
along with alot of the so-called Christians in the north……lol
The Bible says “do not engage in man-stealing”, so true Christians wouldn’t dream of participating in the vile practice of slavery of any race.
KiD HHOK'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
“Many are called,but only few are chosen” “Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going through it, whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.” (Matthew 7:13-14)
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
hey, weren’t you supposed to disprove our arguments on evolution above. what happened. i wonder how you would exist if you found out god was a myth, or even a hoax. could you be strong, only relying on yourself and the people you love, not a phantom that you believe will bring you eternal life. could you do it.
KiD HHOKH'MAH SO'PHi'A Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
How could life come from something without life? – (Psalms 36:9)
Why do animals and plants reproduce only according to their kind? -(Genesis 1:11,21,24-28)
If humans descend from inferior monkeys, why did not a single superior ape-man survive?(Psalm 8:5,6)
How can altruism be explained by the theory of “survival of the fittest?”- (Romans 2:14,15)
Does mankind have any real hope for the future? – (Psalm 37:29) i have answered these question using the bible, as you can see, now you answer these using your science
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Actually Darwin was a racist and believed blacks were not as evolved as whites…..are you saying that you believe that too????
babarishka Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
The bible also says,
Exodus 21:20 -21: “And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.” There’s a bunch more of these types of verses of course, in both the O.T. and N.T.
As for Gary believing that blacks are inferior as Darwin did, that’s just silly.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Not exactly a fair statement. The term “racism” wasn’t heard in Darwin’s time. Unfortunately, nearly everyone in the 19th century accepted notions that we would call “racist” today, so calling Darwin a “racist” really has no relevance if you’re going to consider the man within the context of his times. “The Origin of Species” was published in 1859 and Lincoln didn’t issue the Emancipation Proclamation until 1863, so, at the time, slavery was still being practiced. At that time, there were more whites held ideas we would call “racist” today than there were those who didn’t. It was the norm and had you and I been living at that time, we’d have probably held the same views, ourselves. People’s biases are a product of the times in which they live. We’re more enlightened today than our ancestors were.
dp Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Wrong yet again. If that was the prevailing view at the time, then what about the white Christians in the South and the North that formed the Underground Railroad. They knew that slavery was vile and rebelled against it. So, you state erroneous things again. You had to have studied a little history……racism has been around since man has been here…..so has the practice of slavery, just because it is socially acceptable, doesn’t mean you accept it. You probably aren’t even aware that there were free blacks that owned slaves too. Also, there were people in the North that also owned slaves, General Grant being one…….Please learn history about the discussed subjects before wasting the time of the ones here who have….
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
i wonder how you would exist if you found out god was a myth, or even a hoax. could you be strong, only relying on yourself and the people you love, not a phantom that you believe will bring you eternal life. could you do it.
Gary Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Speaking for myself, I never found any attraction in that eternal life. You still have to die first to achieve it. As Woody Allen once said, I prefer to achieve immortality by not dying.
dp Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Idiotic notion when you consider that in 10,000 years, nobody will even recognize his name…..LOL
dpeddy Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Gary, he isn’t referring to Einstein’s or Hawkings work. He is referring to the fact that the Eugenisists consider evolution to be the scientific basis for their twisted beliefs and that Hitler, and avid evolutionist, would have had Einstien killed for being a jew (closest to the apes, occording to him), and anybody with Hawkings affliction should be singled and “culled” from society, so it can “evolve”. There are numerous examples in history where crazed dictators have use their belief in evolution to “speed” up the “evolution” of their society, Pol Pot and the Killing Fields of Cambodia being a prime example of that.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
A key area of focus in Darwinian medicine is the emergence of modern epidemics like asthma and obesity — modern diseases resulting from changes in the environment which our bodies cannot evolve quickly enough to.
** Obesity is now a modern disease? Wow. This is staggering.
“The epidemic of asthma worldwide may be directly related to our very effective world health efforts to eliminate worms from people,” Nesse suggested.
** Now that’s an interesting correlation. I’d like to see how this ties together. Worms? I must have missed this push for worm eradication. Being that worms isn’t “worms”, I’m taking it verbatum.
Kathleen Barnes, summarising the work of a dozen or so researchers from around the world, pointed out that improved standards of hygiene could explain why societies in the rich world have become more susceptible to asthma, to allergies and to auto-immune diseases.
Humans in less developed, poorer societies, “where parasites and microbial infections are high,” have lower instances of such ailments, Barnes said in Berlin.
** Well, if in fact the claim that Vaccines could attribute to the development of asthma, this could support that notion as I don’t thik poorer societies are getting the amount of vaccines that people mroe financially well off are.
** Seems that the guy from South Africa was the smartest of the bunch by recognizing that some depression and anxiety is actually normal, and healthy. I wonder who let that guy slip in? LOL
One reason for the obesity epidemic in the West, meanwhile, is the prevalence of high-fat, high-calorie fast food, said William Leonard from Northwestern University in the United States, reporting on another two-day workshop held in Berlin.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
None of this has anything at all to do with anything Charles Darwin ever wrote or said. These NWO scum have appropriated his name and applied it to something completely unrelated to Darwin’s work.
Obesity is not a disease. It is entirely preventable and curable, as well. So is type II diabetes, as I’ve proven, myself.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Darwin was an tool anyway. Evolution is a tool, not the truth.
Intent Gaze Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Darwin is a tool. Evolution helped recognize the human species. It helped far more then a buybull.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Darwin looks like an ape man. Of course he thought we came from monkeys.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
He looks like most 19th century men did. Beards were in vogue then, you know.
pro freedom Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
oh yeah, lets not have any innocent fun on behalf of your precious Darwin.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Well, I did smile. Does that count?
pro freedom Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
yes
dpeddy Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Darwin was pretty goofy. Not only did he plagiarize the notion of evolution from his grandfather Erasmus, but he couldn’t even get a job at the state-run church of England after he graduated from the seminary. You have to be really dense for that. That’s as bad as getting a BS in English, and have nobody hire you as an english teacher because you were incompetent. Darwin was just a good observer and artist, with connecting some of the dots of genetic varation between species, but his overall theory was pretty stupid to say the least. He even expressed doubts about it during his life. It only took off because many of the social reformers of the day used their money and influence to promote the theory so they could mold society into their own form…..that made up the eugenics movement
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
You’re sounding a lot less like a guy with an IQ of 150, here. People can fail to get a job for all kinds of reasons other than incompetence, for one thing. Also, whether Darwin’s grandfather expressed some of the seminal ideas that later influenced Charles or not, unless he had written it down in some form, Charles’ use of it wouldn’t be plagiarism. It would be more accurate to say Erasmus’ thinking influenced Charles Darwin, and there’d be no harm in that.
Again, to call an entire field of science “stupid” doesn’t exactly sound like something a highly intelligent person would do. I’d be more impressed if you could actually cite something to bolster your prejudices with.
dpeddy Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
First of all, my IQ is higher than 150, and the only reason I volunteer that info is because Im tired of all the mental midgets out there name calling and say that anybody that doesn’t believe in evolution is stupid and uneducated, so I like to call them out on that. But like I said before, I want to hear them call Newton stupid and uneducated…..LOL (or my cousin for that matter, whose IQ is around 200), both whom were and are creationists. And yes, he is a scientist working in a high-tech lab doing classified work for the DOD, and yes he has forgotten more about math and science than you or I, or anybody else in this forum will ever learn……As far as Darwin is concerned, you really need to read some historical texts or something. I cant write all the history surrounding this issue here. PLEASE READ. When you do, you will realize that Darwin was so goofy, that his dad had to put him on the Beagle, so he could make some money on his own, and not bum off of him. That’s why Darwin went on that voyage, because his dad wanted him to do something with his life. He wasn’t hired by the Church, because he wasn’t qualified to work there, even with a seminary degree…..which word didn’t you understand? He hated blacks and thought they were slightly evolved apes. He thought women were inferior, and the only one that was willing to marry him was his first cousin, Emma. He spent his last years questioning his ideas and supposedly recanted evolution, but I have never been able to confirm that.
As far as calling an entire field of science stupid, you are beginning to sound that way. I called evolution stupid. It is not science, and is not even a field of science. It is merely a world view that has wormed its way into a lot of fields of science. That doesn’t make it true. At one time the idea of leaching was the core theory of medical science. The flat earth idea was for many hundreds of years was the core theory of geography and cartography. I could go on and on, but I’m hungry and bored and am going to eat lunch now……………
October 19th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Research Dr. Bruce Lipton’s work if you want to know how our cells truly work and how you can actually change and reprogram your own cell structure…
The end result……Darwin = bondage to materializm…
I beg everyone to study Bruce Lipton…..and don’t half ass it…..he has great seminars on youtube….he is definately breaking boundries.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Just an observation, but given past actions of governments throughout history whom have made into policy as an “implementation of preventative measures” against their own populations, in guises or Bills and legislation and so forth, i.e. flouride in water, vaccines that cause disease, bioengineered viral strains of race-specific pathogens, GMO foods, etc., this being the “focus” of the World Health Summit, in light of all the stuff coming down lately in weird government policies and martial laws, etc., makes it rather questionable…
Excerpt: “This rapidly growing field of medical research is deeply significant both for medicine overall and for public health care policies, especially the implementation of preventive measures, which are key to stabilising our health care systems,” Nesse said.
Especially note where it says: “…deeply significant both for medicine overall and for public health care policies, especially the implementation of preventive measures…”
“…PUBLIC HEALTH CARE POLICIES, especially the IMPLEMENTATION OF PREVENTATIVE MEASURES.”
Obama is really pushing this healthcare bill thing in the US and the Senators are behind him so far, it seems. And fast-tracking a potentially harmful vaccine like the H1N1 which has not been thoroughly tested (actually it is now being “tested” on the population, since they started giving the FluMist with live H1N1 virus (attenuated) to kids and people in US….]. “Tests” alright…
Hitler had the same view about Jews and used his version of what he considered “implementation of preventative measures…”, the eugenics people implemented the same “implementation of preventative measures” in regards to forced/mandatory sterilization, regulation of children, who were “allowed” to have children, who were not, etc., the supremacists who ran the slave trade in historical US, even as late as the 60″s where non-whites were not even allowed to use the same washrooms or drink out of the same water fountains as an “implementation of preventative measures…” by the US government against people.
It’s the implications of this “implementation of preventative measures” that could be of concern with a rogue government, and the manner in which such “implementations” could potentially be used and exploited under the guise of “health care reform…”
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
well said!
October 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Okay evolution believers. Do you want Darwins medicine or Louis Pasteur’s medicine. If it were not for Louis Pasteur doctors would not be washing thier hands before surgery.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Darwin was not a doctor and the term “Darwinian medicine” is a misuse of the man’s name and his work. This so-called “Darwinian medicine” has nothing at all to do with Charles Darwin the man, or with his work.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Darwinian Evolution is the biggest fraud in the world!
What a JOKE !!!!!
Let me get this straight….We all came from monkeys, which came from dogs, which came from fish, which came from single celled organisms, which came from rocks that got rained on for millions of years…
…which came from some galactic stardust, which came from NOTHING ?!?!?!?!!?
Are you kidding me?!?!?!
And you say that I have outrageous mindless faith in a silly superstition??????
I have eye witnesses who wrote it down. I have all geologic evidence to support the Bible. And just in case you have not noticed…
…the events that are so thoroughly chronicled here at Infowars.Com fall in line PRECISELY with what my Bible said would happen.
“God is dead.”- Nietzche
“Nietzche is dead.” – God
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
did god really write that. i bet you have the paper too. you saw him too right. do you have any pictures, fossils? anything… really, because if you had one shred of evidence, you might turn a few heads here.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
As an agnostic, I am pretty open minded on the issue of an existence of an afterlife. The argument against evoution made earlier seems sound, however, all I care to know is Where TH is God? Couldn’t God just snap his fingers and vaporize the NWO and make Alex Jones lose his job (and thus help millions re-gain their livlihood)?
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
He could, soldier. But this is my understanding from years of walking with Him. He chooses not to. He doesn’t want robots (or He would have created robots). He wants people who will love Him of their own free will and volition. But just as He invites fellowship with Him, and believers accept that invitation, unbelievers also have the free will to reject. You can’t have one without the other.
Animals don’t have self-awareness, though they do have souls (mind, will, emotion. Don’t believe me, just go whack a hornet’s nest. They have the mind to perceive the attack, the will to respond, and they get mad.) Where we have self-awareness and the ability to choose our behavior, even if it means sacrifice, animals only have the instinct programmed by God.
Human beings, the highest form of life on this planet, were created in the image of God with the ability to know Him. It is demeaning and insulting to humankind to call them merely animals (even though I know some who clearly crawled out from under rocks!). We have the ability to choose our behavior. Animals don’t. When people stop and think about it, most of them want peace. I know some who thrive on drama and conflict, but they are the minority (like the elites?). Peace, dignity, compassion and other highly noble characteristics are godly qualities. The strife and violence are demonic attributes. It drives me crazy that people either can not or will not recognize that simple truth.
People don’t want to acknowledge God because walking with Him requires putting away our pride. I learned a long time ago that is is so much easier to just admit I blew it, apologize and move on in relationships, rather than wasting all that energy and time thinking I had to be right. What has all this got to do with evolution? EVERYTHING. Because what we believe in our hearts and minds is spoken from our mouths and lived out through our hands.
People can justify anything they want using some of the most outrageous rationales. They can also manipulate statistics to prove any point they want. Soldier, Jesus said “I AM The Way, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE; no one comes to the Father except through ME.” Evolution is a lie. I care enough about your soul to point you to the truth. Whatever you choose to do with it is between you and God. Peace – really!!!!
Fooch Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
People don’t want to acknowledge God because walking with Him requires putting away our pride.
** I used to be an altar boy. I have gone to church and such. However, after critically thinking, I realized that religion is good for teaching morals and ethics; however, it’s like anything in life, it all depends on who’s hands it lies as to whether it is constructive or destructive. Religious is the opium for the masses. It causes separation of the people and hostility rather than peace. Mostly, this due to the media and government, of which is what it’s intention was. Thus, there is no pride to get over for me. I’m not a non believer that never was a believer.
The bible IMO is nothing more than a book written by the elite for global control, a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts.
Perhaps you can enlighten me, how does the bible explain dinosaurs? Ancient civilizations that date before the stated beginning of time by the bible? How did the population grow in number? Through incest? Incest is proven to cause genetic disorders. How did all the animals on Noah’s Ark remain without killing themselves? I’m supposed to believe that one of EACH animal was brought on the boat? And they just sat there motionless until the situation was over? Come on. It’s the “greatest story ever told” for a reason.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Who’s argument are you referring to, exactly?
lz74 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:02 am
this is all mans fault through his own free will. You agnostics, athiest etc. want to understand why God would allow killings, disease etc. Man is the cause we did it to ourselves.
God is perfect and so is his LAW. It is our choice to kill, murder, lie steal etc. but it is not his will he loves us enough to give us free will. NO ROBOTICS.
babarishka Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Nah, that would be too easy, make too much sense and spare the suffering of billions of people.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
It’s not about God, soldier. It’s about drones who believe in evolution.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I dont agree with the 5000 year old earth nuts, but also do not believe life can just happen out of nowhere, that is even more stupid of an idea. I know god created us and not some bang in a black space, someone-something intelligent made the bang.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
So, you believe that life can only happen as the result of some unseen deity snapping his fingers? Yeah, that’s a lot more believable, isn’t it?
There was no bang.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
“God is dead.”- Nietzche
“Nietzche is dead.” – God
Not dead but asleep at the wheel if you ask me
October 19th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
If you don’t believe in evolution you’re retarded, literally.
What’s wrong with you idiot Americans? Do you think there’s more proof for your god than for evolution?
You believe things due to bad education and ulterior political & psychological motives. You’re degenerates who need to be sterilised. Filth.
Bobby Baldwin Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
The ‘filth’ is YOU mr. john GAY
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
om”god”, did you just really type that. the proof is in the pudding, bobby just may be of retarded nature.
lz74 Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:05 am
why do you insult people that dont believe as you…. how mean and arrogant.. If I thought about your religion I would dismiss it based on your behavior ….how sad
October 19th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Furthermore, no scientists claims mankind came from apes. Rather apes and mankind (a type of ape) came from a proto-species.
You can’t say you don’t believe in evolution if you don’t know what it is! Retards.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Show us the transitional forms, then. You can’t, because every fossil that someone has dug up has been proven a hoax. John, the immoral culture of the world comes from believing we are only animals. EVOLUTION is the bad education that has this country in the moral mess we’re in now. If you want to believe you came from some ape-connection, go right ahead. It justifies your bad behavior. I believe most human beings are above that.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
True, which is why we’re separate species today. Just as the offspring of any human parent share the same DNA, but can be markedly different, so were the descendants of that proto-species. One line branched off and became proto-hominids (the ancestors of humans) while the other became proto-simians.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
You have absolutely no proof of some “proto-species”. NONE, NADA, ZIP, Zilch. Just some book you read in high school.
Gary Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:11 am
Ever heard of “Lucy,” the Australopithicine?
"I Have No Brain Yet I Must Think" By Harlan Ellison Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:21 am
Yes, it’s a fraud. Not the missing link.
dpeddy Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Yep, was a fraud. Johanson’s bunch found 3/4 of the incomplete skeleton in one layer of dirt, and the other parts almost a mile away in a completely different strata. Now THAT is being systematic and accurate! And just in time for his grant to be renewed…..whew…that was close. Absolutely no consensus about Lucy being an ancestor to humans in the darwinian camps. Aaaaannnnd yeeeesssss, I own the book “Lucy, The Beginnings of Mankind”, and several others about the extinct ape that wanted to be human, so dont even go there……Other skeletons have been found for the taxpayers money to be wasted on since then too, no consensus with them either LOL. What these over-educated people haven’t figured out is that when you find bones in the ground, they can’t talk. They don’t prove anything, except that something was once alive and then died. You can infer some intersting info about the animal with any tendon marks, predator markings, teeth wear, and injury marks; but the rest of belief based on personal bias. You cant prove that what you found had any offspring that lived, and you certainly can’t prove they were different.
babarishka Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Ardipithecus.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Bruce Lipton is a pseudo-scientist. His work is all about “bridging science and spirit.”
http://www.brucelipton.com/
October 19th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Polite version:
1. Evolution has more evidence for it than the existence of god has.
2. No evolutionist believes mankind came from apes. Rather apes and mankind (a type of ape) comes from a proto-species.
3. If you do not know what evolution is, then you cannot say it is false.
Bobby Baldwin Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Take your polite version and SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS
unlike where you live, we’re allowed to believe what we want! Now go and believe we evolved from monkeys you fucking clown.
babarishka Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Matthew 5:22…………………
October 19th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
I’m not going to call anyone who believes in evolution retarded. You have your beliefs and I have my own. John day “RETARDS RETARDS RETARDS” gEEE i FEEL LIKE i’M IN GRADE SCHOOL.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I feel like you’re in grade school as well.
If beliefs are valid, they must be justified by reason and experience.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Sooo, someone hopped up on LSD has “experienced” that he is a pancake. Does that make it true? So much for rationalizations.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Valid beliefs are based on reason and experience.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
I’m not calling people names like you where. Gary’s comments are better than your’s. Didn’t say anything bad about Gary.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I don’t care whether one takes offense, I care about the truth.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Then go talk to Jesus. He IS the truth!
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
where might i find him…
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
You’ll find Him when you seek Him with all your heart. If you want to poke fun, or denounce Him, or make light, you’ll continue to wander in darkness. And you’ll die in that condition. It’s forever, kp. Without Jesus, there is no hope. Not for you, nor the rest of humanity. Get a Bible and start reading in the gospel of John, with a prayer that He will reveal the truth to you. The truth will set you free. That is the only freedom one can call truly free.
AJ Minion Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:26 am
No hope wander in the darkness die forever. Yea thats right get a bible and read it, it will save you truth truth truth. Yessiree makes you really want to get religion!!!! That way you too can tell others that they’re going to hell, no hope in darkness die forever.
Notice there is nothing else to entice you to read the bible but hell, no hope die darkness forever? Gee where can I sign up for this uplifting warm and fuzzy?
I’m glad the God I met wasn’t the one described in the bible, you know the angry vengeful god that sends people into the pit of ever burning damnation. But you choose what you want to believe.
Keep believing the lie so you will be so busy worrying about pissing god off that you won’t be able to do anything else like……… Fight the NWO, see the reality in front of you. You won’t be able to do anything to help yourself or anyone else because you will be so thoroughly brainwashed (like alot of people that come to this site) all you will be able to do is spew bible verses and chant the same old rhetorical statements ad nauseum.
Have fun when your pastor leads you to the Fema Camp and you go even knowing inside this is what you were warned about because your mind is no longer yours.
Thats OK though its all in the name of God!
FreedomLover Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:10 am
AJ, you’ve got it backwards. We’re lost and dying in our sins, but the gospel is GOOD NEWS! Jesus came that we might have life. ABUNDANT, joyful life, not only in the hereafter, but in the here and now as well!
The problem here is that too many churches have ceased to proclaim the reality of hell in favor of the “warm fuzzies.” People MUST realize they’re in danger before they can be saved from danger.
God in His mercy has sent His ONE AND ONLY SON. There is but ONE way, but at least there IS a way. It’s God’s universe, His heaven, and what gall to say to God we’ll get in whatever way we please.
Did you respect your father when growing up? Well, God treats all His children as fathers are SUPPOSED to treat them. I’m not a proponent of movies, per se, but in the Chronicles of Narnia, it was said that Aslan was a good lion, but he was not a TAME lion. We’ve “tamed” down God to fit our own warped view of Him as a grandfatherly figure with a long white beard who winks at our sins and tells us it’s ok, we’ll be accepted. No, God is holy, and the crucifixion was bloody because our sins are filth before a holy God. Does He love us as a father? Yes. Will He tolerate misbehavior (sinning), any more than an earthly father would? No.
The only reason I’m going to heaven is because my sins are covered by His blood sacrifice. I took that Christmas package, opened it, looked at it with intelligent eyes and claimed it for my own. Salvation is free to us humans, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t costly. God gave the most precious thing He had to redeem lost humanity, but sadly, most people will spit on it and walk away. Without accepting that free gift, there is no relationship with God. He sets the rules. I don’t have the liberty to usurp God’s authority and tell HIM what to do or how I’ll get into His heaven.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Hume. John Day Hume.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Indeed, you should look up Hume’s Fork.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
You should at leat quote the guy.
October 19th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Rothschild says… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....rofilepage
October 19th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Gentle suggestion:
Some things to ponder about the impending tyranny.
It’s going to be miserable if you plan to survive.
Don’t gather a bunch of stuff and tell everyone you have it. They will kill you for it.
Don’t dig a bunker. Same reason.
Stupid Idea. Shut up and disassociate.
Don’t join a militia, there are infiltrators in most of them
Survival info is free on the web.
Go to AmericanPirate dot com
Get some survival books and PRACTICE the Techniques.
GO CAMPING A LOT
LEARN HOW TO SURVIVE.
LEARN YOUR ROUTE OUT In car with a bike in it or
on it. Take your car as far as you can get.
Take your minibike or mountainbike
until it breaks. Bring inner tubes. Then go on FOOT.
Or start on foot if they won’t let you drive.
Learn your area NOW. Move if you have to.
Work out and run and walk everyday.
Buy cheap military manuals on ebay or find
them free online. Medical stuff, first aid, plants you can eat.
Don’t talk about it to anyone.
Burn DVDs of Alex Shows and put them everywhere
TRUCKSTOPS are great… but when someone asks if you are prepared
tell them you are working on it but don’t go farther than that.
Find out where in your area, back roads, trails, Caves, Swamps. Places the
NWO Pigs won’t go. (US Cavalry wouldn’t come after the Seminole because
they went to the everglades. I hope you live in Florida) I’m getting a boat and leaving
by next may. This place will be nuked or occupied or both soon.
Don’t know your neighbors because your neighbors are all retards.
Even if you tell or talk about this stuff to anyone
that you know gets it, they still have unprepared friends to whom they
will blab about you.
Cell Phones won’t work.
Get a crank radio and kinetic flashlight and magnesium
fire starter. If you buy silver and gold BURY IT. And don’t
lose the map. Don’t use a GPS they will not work.
Get back to it all. Backpack, comfy boots, emergency blankets,
plastic bags, gun, ammo, machete, 3 or 4 knives and wetsone.
Fishing gear.
If you can’t carry it a mile or two it WILL kill you.
Learn survival. The ones that live will be dirty cold, hot, bug bites,
camping gone bad. You will have to figure out how to get to some place to hide out
HAVE your bug out bags handy with all this gear.
You had better have your things prepared for travel and have it ready for transport soon. Dont forget salt,magnesium fire starter,hatchet,hand saw,wood working tools,vitamins,water filter,portable burner,first aid kit with snake bite and bee sting kit,dehydrated food,emergency blankets,extra socks,sturdy boots for all,hunting knife,compass,rope,carabiner clips,heavy duty trash bags for keeping your things dry while fording rivers,galvanized screws,warm cloths,sugar,spices,weapon&ammo ALOT,tarps not tents,sleeping bags rated 20 below 0,bug repellent,razor blades,ace bandages,laminated maps, and a lot im sure you have already. Your life DOES depend on it so spare no experience on these things.
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FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I’m disabled. I can’t run. I have no weapons. Resist, yes. Run, out of the question. I’m doing what I can for myself and the people around me. I’m obeying the biblical mandate “Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over shall MEN pour into your lap!” “Love your neighbor as much as you love yourself.” Still working on perfecting that one! I will depend on God to take care of me. I’ve been living this way for 40+ years. It hasn’t failed me yet. People have hurt me, but the bad is on their heads, not mine.
On topic – obesity and asthma are not evolutionary mechanisms or mutations. They are the human body’s negative reactions to the poisons that have been dumped on us from every avenue. Water, air, food. I didn’t read anyone commenting on that.
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
yes, my dad has been letting his god take care of him for 40 or so years as well. but you know all i see are his friends, family and the government giving him handouts. (he’s on disability for asthma, light asthma that is, not the hard core, living off the machines kind). didn’t see anyone named god around. hmmmm.
FreedomLover Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:43 am
And just who do you think has been impressing it on their hearts to do so? Kp, good comes from God. Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of Lights, in whom there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. Everything evil comes from the worshippers of Lucifer, the false angel of light, whom the “elite” worship. This is no secret. They themselves admit their loyalty to this leader of hellish demons. Where else do you think they get their ideas of tanking the world’s population and making slaves of the few who will be left – FOR THEIR BENEFIT AND PLEASURE? Hurting, torturing and generally doing pure evil to fellow human beings who God places on the same level playing field, does NOT come from Jehovah.
I’d much rather believe in and obey a God who has my best interests at heart, as my Bible teaches, than to be subject to a bunch of self-made goon-gods who want my death. He has proven Himself to me. The fact that others can’t/won’t believe does not make any impact on my relationship with Jesus. It’s rock-solid.
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
thank you for getting us all back to the task at hand. much needed validity. i’ve already started on my survival plan.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
it would be nice to see some “evolution” on this site. For starters, how about we make the attempt to disagree/debate without having to begin with “…you’re a moron”. or whatever other angry, disrespectful jibe. If we’re all here, it’s because at the end of the day, regardless of religious beliefs, spirituality, race, creed or other affiliations, we all agree that there is a force bent on controlling us and depleting us, right? And we also agree, if we’re here, that the clock is ticking and time is running out to reverse the momentum they’ve already created. So let’s actually, consciously make an effort, here, at this site of information and mobilization, to start to make a change. If we can’t begin to put our egos aside and agree to disagree respectfully with people we clearly share a common understanding (not entirely, but to a significant degree), then what hope do we really have? Where and when is it going to start? If not here, where? You know they’re desire is to divide and conquer and yet we constantly, daily, talk out of both sides or our mouth and say, “i’m all over this stuff and am doing what I can do reverse this current trend,” and then minutes later, we’re engaged in a petty, hostile exchange with people who are ultimately on your side.
I’ve definitely seen worse, but when you’re hearing what you’re hearing and seeing what you’re seeing when it comes to timelines, the bullshit you see hear daily begins to wear on you even more. Again, if we can’t even do this, co-exist here with some common decency, what makes you think we’ll be able to do it out there? Is it not time?
FreedomLover Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
You are SO right.
What we believe is spoken with our mouths and lived out through our hands. However, the time for philosophizing has come and gone. The vaccines and financial collapse are real tools that the NWO is using to depopulate the planet. Yet we sit here and trade infantile insults. Makes me wonder if there is anything worth saving?
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
i see your point. here’s mine. stupidity is a real downer, and you see we are trying really hard to collectively reach a rebellious high.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
darwin was a complete crackhead,no real qualifications,nothing i bet he would of loved crystal meth in his pipe,he might of solved all the puzzles nwo fuckhead.
Gary Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
You’ve aptly named yourself.
kp Reply:
October 19th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
someone here appreciates your sagaciousness.
barry s obama Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:37 am
gary or should i say mary the question of sanity comes when you just beleive in a theory that has not been proved as fact,a lot of evidence is still outstanding.
going on your theory of evolution in one million years you might grow a dick and balls to
shove up your ass, keep drinking the koolade and obama is truthfull and the federal reserve
loves you.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
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October 19th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
dear earthlings the plantlife on my planet has more intellect and use than you .
we want your vermin species wiped off the planet.
the nwo does our bidding, then we will strike and takeover.
the earth will flourish once more.
die humans die!!!!!!!!
October 19th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
I wish i could go back in time ide probably go back to when darwin was around and take a 2 by 4 to his stupid monkey head. see if he could come up with a “theory of evo….ahhhhhhh my F%$#@ head!”
October 19th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
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October 19th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
nice hank, is that how you bible thumpers do things,
was that taught by your all loving god.
But its all good, because jesus died on a cross for the sins you have commited, and will commit.
so even is you hit people with 2by 4s, jesus forgives you.
you religous people are the root of all evil, fighting for you imaginary gods.
Solutions Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Well, there is that book called the Emerald Turd, written by a bunch of converted Polish gypsies that decided to put down the shell game. The book contains many proverbs about a mystical elephant that on one day was 4 tree trunks, a thick skinned serpent on a different day and I believe a branch on the 3rd day. According to the women of their tribe, the mystical elephant demands they have constant intercourse but deny it, have 16 children each and to collect dung that falls from the rear of the 4 tree trunks. Their leader wears a big hat made from a fish head and they have lots of songs they sing as they compress the tree dung, believing if it is compressed enough it will one day turn into the world’s largest emerald, with which they can then purchase the entire holy land and save ONLY THE BELIEVERS. Most of the women have nose rings and they do not tolerate blasphemy, they refuse penecillin when sick but fully endorse getting a Swine Flu shot, as long as the incense is burning.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Darwin was a mentally ill person! Read his life history and the final years of his life. Today, there is so much mental illness in government! Why can’t everyone live and let live? Why are there so many “Sky Daddy’s”? So many people who think they know what is best for us!
Solutions Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Darwin was no mentally ill.
Darwin realized what had been difficult to understand, regarding the evolution of species.
It was not his desire or judgement as a scientist, to defy theology, but rather to report what became obvious during his voyage to the Galapgos islands.
To make a comparision, I see and report that we are HAVING AN ECONOMIC RECESSION.
This does not mean I like rescessions, that I caused a recession, or that I want the recession to continue. It does not mean I preach that a recessuion is the way to go socially, religiously or whatever. It means that I observe we are in a recession, report it and for those that want to pretend it’s not a fact and imagine I uphold an evil doctrine – they are the ones that have a mentally warped percetion of reality.
We have the same thing going on today with the Truthers and 9/11. They do not wish it was a Global Conspiracy involving moles on the inside, they do not advocate that bombing the WTC is the way to go, they do not want to make the survivng family members suffer emotionally, they did NOT cause 9/11, they don’t want to see the Constitution being overthrown, BUT THAT’S WHAT IS HAPPENING AND IT’S OBSERVABLE, JUST LIKE DARWIN’S OBSERVATIONS!!!
AND IT’S HAPPENING BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO FACE THE FACTS!!! IT’S HAPPENING BECAUSE TOO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO PRETEND IT’S NOT AND IT’S HAPPENING BECAUSE THE AVERAGE MAINSTREAM MORON BELIEVES IT WILL GO AWAY IF THE TRUTHERS JUST SHUT UP AND IF WE BRAINWASH OURSELVES AND CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE. THE TRUTHERS DO NOT ADVOCATE DICTATORIAL FASCISM AND A ONE WORLD CURRENCY THAT WILL COME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND CENTRAL BANKING – THEY DO NOT ADVOCATE THIS AS THE WAY TO GO, BUT IT IS THE WAY WE ARE GOING.
TO EXTRAPOLATE THAT THE TRUTHERS ARE BAD PEOPLE FOR WHAT IS OBSERVABLE, IS THE SAME THING AS SAYING DARWIN DREAMED OF KILLING GOD AND WAS THERFORE MENTALLY ILL FOR WHAT HE OBSERVED AND REPORTED.
The answer is, none of us is God, and we have to learn to accept that we are not always right and are not big enough brained to fully understand how God does things. If we can understand evolution, then maybe we can come to grips with God’s methods, rather than remaining like children that still believe in Santa Clause. If you really believe God is the almighty and saves souls, then does the dirt and talking monkeys really matter, if we all are gathered on the OTHER SIDE? To complain about the details we are not fully capable of understanding, is to doubt the GREATNESS OF GOD and I ask you just where is your faith for being so bold and demanding of the lord!!!
IMO, God does not go on for just 7000 years, or just on this earth, HE’S MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT, MUCH BIGGER AND TRY MILLIONS OF WORLDS AND BILLIONS OF YEARS, HE’S BIG, REALLY BIG!!! YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT???
Oh come on!!! Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:42 am
It´s just so fundamentally stupid. I´m not a religious person but of course I can´t rule out the possibility of God. There is basically no proof either way.
…but these no-brainer halleluja people are so ignorant and thoughtless it´s sad to listen to them.
First of all, the evolution does not exclude the creation-theory. You just have to ignore this “God created Earth 6000 years ago”-bullshit. Come on!!! Don´t be so stupid.
If there is a God that created the universe he must have done so in the big bang. And if he did that than it must include that the evolution of stars and planets were planned from the beginning. …and therefor the evolution of life on Earth. Of course the evoution-theory is right! There are endless facts existing that proofs that! Come on!!! Open you f..king eyes!! …and the evolution-theory doesn´t rule out existense of God!!!! GET IT!!!!
If you can´t see that you´re fundamentalist morons without any hope of thinking for yourselves.
DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IF THERE IS A GOD HE INTENDED THAT YOU WOULD NOT USE THE BRAIN HE GAVE YOU???? …TO NOT THINK FOR YOURSELF??? JUST TAKE FOR GRANTED WHAT SOME PREACHER TELL YOU AND NOT DOUGHT IT.. EVER??? ….READ A VERY OLD BOOK CALLED THE BIBLE AND TAKE IT FOR GRANTED WITHOUT EVER THINKING FOR YOURSELF???
IS THAT THE KIND OF GOD YOU BELIEVE IN??? …WHO THINKS YOU´RE SO STUPID THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER DOUGHT THE WORDS FROM OTHER MEN OR THE CHURCH, TO NEVER EVER THINK FOR YOURSELF??? TO NEVER EVER USE THE BRAIN THAT HE GAVE YOU???
I MEAN ….COME ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:33 am
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. – William Falconer
Scientists are very skeptical people….very skeptical. It’s all part of being a scientist. Creationism was thought to be the order of things until modern science because it was the most believable, that is until we started finding more and more proof that species can evolve and started realizing that there isn’t any proof to be found for the existance to the the contrary besides rhetoric.
Most people who argue against evolution can be scared of the truth and don’t want to say god doesn’t exist (which is stupid, because there are many people who believe in evolution and god at the same time, they do not preclude each other). Darwin himself believed in the prime mover aspect of it, which means god could have created the ability for evolution to exist.
Another reason could be that the people who are adamantly against it don’t know the full facts because of the bull facts that they get from the creationists which purport things like “life is so complex it must have been created” or “evolution would have caused useless body parts that would have been cumbersome”, which are just so non-sensical to the theory that only people who stay as far away from it like hard core christians would believe something so absurd. People who would rather believe a book that is in it’s own words corrupted by man. I mean the books matthew mark luke and john were written by men who heard the story and wrote it down since there are so many inconsitancies to count.
“How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.” – Jeremiah 8:8
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa.....ersion=KJV
Almost everyone here talks about how the new world order wants to stray people away from christianity because of control and such, but they don’t realize that christianity is a massive use of control. You have a book written by men that says whatever you want it to say half of the time because it either contradicts itself or it’s so vague it can be open to any interpretation. It was used for over 1000 years to say the world was flat when it itself said it was round for f sakes. Europe was ruled with an iron fist for over 1000 years using it, wouldn’t the supposed ‘new world order’ use that again since it worked so well?
But i digress, science is about questioning the established order of things. It took many years and much evidence to come about for evolution to be accepted as much as it is today. If you really want to know about evolution, then read about it. And not from some quack site who is christian faith based that purports to be unbiased. Get the facts and decide for yourself.
dp Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Oh Come On……You are pretty stupid, aren’t you. Cross your legs, hold your nose and fart, you may just clear your mine pinhead……
October 20th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Hey check this out.
How combination of stupidity and money have dumbed down America education:
http://www.happinessonline.org.....tic/p3.htm
October 20th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Darwin was directly mentored by Lucifer impersonating John Stevens Henslow, 1796–1861
It was Lucifer’s direct plan to abolish the existance GOD
FreedomLover Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Lucifer, as a created being, could never abolish the existence of God. However, he could deceive men into believing that everything spiritual is nonexistent, and he’s done a pretty good job of that.
Satan has definitely replaced the worship of God with the lie that men can be gods and hence, we are the highest form of being. What better way to get people on his team than to get behind the scenes and convince them that evil doesn’t really exist and they can do as they please without being accountable to anyone higher than themselves? Only one problem with that, though. When people turn into detestable filth, where does that leave their victims? Who determines what’s right and wrong when innocent people, and the helpless – the children – are harmed and killed? What’s the answer to that? There MUST be accountability. Humans make extremely poor gods.
The right to live without being microscopically controlled and harmed, even killed. Isn’t THAT what this fight is all about?
Michelle Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
So….you’re saying that humans should be held accountable when people die…but god shouldn’t be held accountable when millions die under his watch….wow, logic!
it’s kind of like how some guy in africa has all the food and cures to all the diseases that plague the continent, can cure all the problems with the snap of his fingers, but he won’t until everyone believes he’s better than them….now who’s on an ego trip?
babarishka Reply:
October 21st, 2009 at 2:37 pm
If you or I see a heinous crime being committed and we have the power to stop it, yet do nothing, we will, at best, be called immoral. Yet, god allows all of this suffering to go on a global scale, does nothing, and gets off scott free, to the point where people go to church and say how great he is. One might think that the all powerful, all loving god of the universe would be held to a higher standard than we are. Go figure.
Michelle Reply:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
btw. We’ve seen how well the ethics go when things are done in the name of god because it’s ‘right’…KKK, eugenics (yes eugenics…invented to get closer to being perfect to be closer to god in the US…it’s called history, not alex’story),the crusades, spanish inquisition, racial clensing, white supremacy, etc etc etc
But you know, everyone’s ethics are better when they get them from a book that is widely open to interpretation.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Stupid people worship Darwin to make them more stupid.
Theory of degeneration.
Is Alex Jone the missing link
October 20th, 2009 at 11:45 am
hey roaddog i know who you are and you are a moron . you think you now something about cosmology but you are a short sited idiot so take ypur uninformed opinion and stick it where the sun does not shine .
November 1st, 2009 at 3:27 am
Interesting blog post. What would you say was the most common problem?