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David Motari, Alleged Puppy Killer, Tracked Down
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 4, 2008
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It didn’t take long for internet sleuths to track down the perp. David Motari, the Marine accused of pitching a puppy off a cliff for the sheer psychopathic fun of it, is a member of the Bebo social network. Although the network requires registration to view member profiles, an enterprising researcher was able to login and screen capture Motari’s profile (click small image at left to see a larger image).
Motari is a Lance corporal, 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, stationed at Haqlaniyah, Iraq, and based out of the Marine Corps Base at Kaneohe, Hawaii. He is from Seattle, Washington.
“Don’t have to follow nobodies (sic) footsteps,” writes the Marine on his Bebo profile. “I’m makin my own, fully grown, and this life is my own.” Motari tells us he is “happiest when… Chillin out, sleeping, playing sport, hittin the gym, hangin with friends, with my family, at home, fridays, eating, running, cruisin, and defintely (sic) when I get out of the marine corps!” He forgot to add he is especially happy when emulating Jeffrey Dahmer, who also shared a penchant for torturing and killing small defenseless animals.
“There is no way to know for sure if the puppy is real or not unless you are the one who produced it,” explains Charlie Powell, College of Veterinary Medicine, Washington State University.
However, after watching the video on YouTube, it certainly appears the puppy was alive prior to Motari’s sadistic stunt.
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March 4th, 2008 at 10:15 am
How many Iraqi women and children did he shoot for the “fun of it” ?
Obviously enough to lose his soul.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:21 am
1000000 dead innocents yet they are running after the puppy killer. It’s bad, but we should stop what is way worse first.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:23 am
The puppy is defenseless, what about the Iraqi people?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:23 am
This person is not a man, he is a shameful disgrace and a piece of shit.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:24 am
In war it is expected for innocents and people to die, even if the war isn’t justified. But to kill an animal, for any reason at all, especially in its infant stage when it can’t even begin to defend itself is just plain sickening. I hope they feed him to the dogs.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:24 am
Didnt take youtube long to ban this vid
March 4th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Seems like a distraction to me.
I think it’s fake too many places there could be a cut and there’s no way you’d be able to hear it land. But now even I’m getting caught up in this non-story!
Lets get back to raising the issue of why he’s there in the first place.
Seriously, come on. Alex Jones complains enough about people being distracted by sports and celebrities. This is exactly the same.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:30 am
David Motari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
March 4th, 2008 at 10:31 am
This guy makes me sick. Do you really think that you are a tough guy!
You are an ass and should be thrown off of that same cliff to your miserable demise.
You have no business representing this country or the people in it…..Shame on you.
Maybe someday your children will be lucky enought to see how kind Daddy really is.
This should make Mommy and Daddy proud.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:31 am
THEY ARE TRYING TO DISRUPT TRANSMISSION. THEY CAN NEVER SILENCE THE PEOPLE. TRY AS THEY MIGHT. WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:32 am
…And the People are at this man’s mercy, ludicrous!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:33 am
The information about this sadism by the military on animals must be extremely threatening to some officials. The truth is the truth. They can be reminded what THEY have caused to happen. Real Americans recognize violent conditioning for what it is.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:34 am
there is no new world order…there is no economic crisis…every time the economy goes into a down cycle (which is a part of how the economy works), you doomsday kooks fly off the handle and come up with all sorts of retarded scenarios…
you tards need to go back to your living rooms, watch football, and worship some clown named jesus, ’cause thats all you’re good for…no NO you can’t change the system…so go back to being good little consumers and worship the corporations (except on sundays worship that fictitious jesus fellow)…go and work hard and make somebody else rich and at the same time defend capitalism!…let the government take almost everything you earn…watch american idle…you good for nothing confused scum worms…
even if the new world order is coming, it will take hundreds of years at this pace…it won’t happen in my lifetime…so get a life you racist anti-immigrant pathetic bottom feeders…keep worshiping pirate radio and this web site, as if that’s gonna save you…you’re just wasting time…
March 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am
it was a puppy, not a human. Iraq is a war, not a cakewalk.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am
He’s got a job waiting for him at Blackwater.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am
obviously they are sick WHAT do you expect, it is a WAR Most DONT know they have been used
March 4th, 2008 at 10:36 am
that puppy was an insurgent
March 4th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Jethro called it. Court martial him all you want, he’ll be back in Iraq with a higher paying job in a month.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:38 am
in some asian countries he would only be guilty of playing with food.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:39 am
puppyman, if he’s serious, needs to be thrown off a cliff himself.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Way to go “Killer”!!! Big Bad-Ass Marine!!! I bet you feel like a really big man now!!! Hoo Ra!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:41 am
This guy is a killing machine. I think it is all the vaccines they are giving our soldiers. They kill there then they come home and kill their wives and their selves. Looked at the vet sucide rates lately?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:44 am
OUR SOLDIERS HAVE BEEN USED… NOT THIER FAULT
March 4th, 2008 at 10:45 am
I loathe Bush, hate Cheney’s guts, would love to slap Condoleeza into next week.
But this guy? A soldier.
Come to think of it I’m becomig pretty disgusted with our military. Ammo dipped into depleted uranium? Deliberately gunning down people running for their lives and laughing about it.
shooting missiles into the only safe house innocent men, women, children and babies had, their only prayer for safety. Illegal aliens in the military? Multiple tours of duty?
I met a young army guy recently. I remarked in my early years…way back…boys considered soldiers as their heroes. With a look of puzzlement on his face he said “Really. They always cry when they see us coming.”
children know who the bad guys are.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:46 am
great job!!! protecting our freedom by killing those insurgent dogs! way to go!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Most dont even know they have been used ..no idea they have been set up.. GREAT NOW WE HAVE Trained psychopaths….they are sick and need help..
March 4th, 2008 at 10:47 am
It’s sad that this has to be the “Top Story” on my favorite alternative media site today. Come on guys, give it a rest and get back to reporting on the elitists. This story is useless, we all know that Marines are conditioned to have little to no remorse or concern for life. I’m sure the PETA people can handle this. lol
It’s just a dog. Add one puppy to the list of people killed by the US military since 2003.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:49 am
As a former soldier (US Army) I am DISGUSTED by this because it makes us look like bullies and really into torture….
First there was Abu Gharib, now killing puppies….I am so embarrassed to be an Iraqi war veteran.
How sad….
THIS GUY HAS GOT TO GO DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Learn more at: http://www.sheeporsleep.blogspot.com
March 4th, 2008 at 10:49 am
GET OVER IT ALEX THE ONLY ISSUE IS OUR SOLDIERS BEING USED
March 4th, 2008 at 10:50 am
There’s no excuse for this type of behavior. I don’t care how much “stress” he was under. Think about how much Stress that Puppy was when it got throw off a cliff… The puppy even wimpers in the video, listen carefully.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:51 am
as AJ has stated- the incident is sickening enough-
the medias downplaying of it and the people online defending it are even sicker
these people do not represent America
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March 4th, 2008 at 10:51 am
hey marine, if you are reading these comments, fuck you pig whore. you make me sick. fucking whore.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:52 am
David Motari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191
(714) 330-0418
DAVID MOTARI FACTS:
1) He is now in Iraq, or Hawaii (in Kaneohe Bay)
2) He is the soldier in the video (see the pics of Iraq on his Bebo site for confirmation)
3) He married Jessica Thatcher in January 2008 (google: david motari heraldnet)
4) His wife moved to Hawaii on Feb 24, 2008 (google: david motari jessica myspace, choose “nathen – 20″, her friend)
5) He signed Ipetitions:
152 David Motari I am a Marine currently serving in Iraq. I would hate to see our team move out of Seattle…
Pentagon Switchboard
703-545-6700
Department of Defense
(703) 699-1800
(703) 607-4400
United States Army
(703) 695-2769
Call them!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Anyone that believes that American military will not fire on Americans when ordered to by the cabal is out of their mind.
“Motari is a Lance corporal, 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, stationed at Haqlaniyah, Iraq, and based out of the Marine Corps Base at Kaneohe, Hawaii. He is from Seattle, Washington.”
Unfortunately, our warriors are loaded with psychopaths that need to be put down like rabid dogs.
I come from a multi-generational military family and I’m sorry to see what has been done to America.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:54 am
i think it’s kind of strange that everyone cares about that puppy, but noone is interested in the murder of civilians in that driveby-movie.
I like dogs and that puppy is really cute, but how about these innocent civilian HUMANS?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:56 am
All these illegal, immoral wars has turned some soldiers into sociopaths! Then like someone above said, WHO knows what the pure evil gov’t is giving our troops in FORCED vaccine’s!? Wait til Martial Law comes! And IT is coming! FBI admitted it, per article on The Progressive, and on Internet about Infragard! If not with our own troops then by foreign troops! But people need to bitch about geneciode going on in Gaza, by Israel, too where our tax dollars are killing thousands of innocent Palestinian’s too!
March 4th, 2008 at 10:57 am
The sad part is that this was most likely one of the many puppies we sent over too the soldiers to keep them company. In fact some soldiers become so attached to the puppies that if one is killed they send his puppy back home to the family. Nice to know this is whats happening to the gifts we send the soldiers…guess even the puppies don’t stand a chance in Iraq.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:58 am
That marine should have thrown a truther off that cliff.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:59 am
I’m not suprised, these are people that kill for a living. What did you expect?
March 4th, 2008 at 10:59 am
complete disgrace to this country and humanity.
unfortunately, they are being trained by our own Government to have no respect for humanity. one day all of those kinds of people will get theirs.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:00 am
His name is David S. Motari and his address is 24419 Florence Acres Rd. in Monroe WA 98272. Phone number is 360-794-7191. I hope he rots in hell for what he did.
I got this now use it to get the SOB……
March 4th, 2008 at 11:01 am
he must be having a ball being able to kill who ever he wants over
in iraq. how many innocent people has he butchered already?
but our FREE press will let us know when he kills a puppy right?
welcome to the 4th reich. hiel W
March 4th, 2008 at 11:03 am
hopefully his death will be just as horrifying!
karmas a motherfucker.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:04 am
What a contrast – the film footage of US Marines after an intense and deadly battle. US Marines tenderly caring for and doing the best they could with the civilians of Okinawa. Which made them Heroes to the World! Fast forward 60 years. Are US Marines now to be feared by civilians and small animals everywhere? What happened to Marine honor? to Marine pride? to Marine discipline? WHAT HAPPENED?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:04 am
#1 Truther just fucked up. We’re coming for you. We know where you are.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Cant wait to kill assholes like this !!!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:05 am
I seent Kurt Nimmo a link where someone posted David Mortari’s address in the state of Washington and even listed a telphone number. Check it at:
http://www.donoevil.propeller......-off-cliff
March 4th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Might as well just give the same pride to a butcher or a hitman….
March 4th, 2008 at 11:08 am
I do not care if you come for me……
GOD has got my back…..I don’t take threats personally….I bind that spirit of evil in the name of JESUS CHRIST!
Try what you want…you will surely burn in hell for attempting to track me….
This is what I posted in case any of you were wondering: (It doesn’t matter. He already disconnected his phone number.)
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His name is David S. Motari and his address is 24419 Florence Acres Rd. in Monroe WA 98272. Phone number is 360-794-7191. I hope he rots in hell for what he did.
*************
Ron Paul 2008
http://www.sheeporsleep.blogspot.com
March 4th, 2008 at 11:08 am
http://www.infowars.com/?p=71, #1 Truther Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 11:00 am
His name is David S. Motari and his address is 24419 Florence Acres Rd. in Monroe WA 98272. Phone number is 360-794-7191. I hope he rots in hell for what he did.
I got this now use it to get the SOB……
DON”T hassle his family! His family probably hates what he did TOO! Give his family the benefit of the doubt here! His parents probably HATE what he did! And are eshamed of it and him too! He/they BOTH need to be dishonorably discharged IMMEDIATELY! That maybe the reason they did it to get out of Iraq, since some poor troops are even knifing themselves in neck and jumping off buildings to get to come home! We MUST bring ALL our poor troops HOME and NOW! From BOTH Iraq and Afghanistan too! They are in Iraq in part, so U.S. and help Israel build oil pipeline to STEAL Iraqi oil FOR ISRAEL! Fact!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Can Marines be called to operate domesticaly?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Try http://donoevil.propeller.com/.....-off-cliff
and look down to videpxx2 posting:
This posting has an address and telephone number for the invidual
I sent the link to Kurt Nimmo
March 4th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Agt Marine , go F*#@*! yourself , SORRY , you a killing coward like this mentally i’ll kid !!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Can someone please inform Alex and Kurt that their are posted threats against people like me and him for simply exposing these sadists…..
I wish a mofo would try to “get me”…..JESUS CHRIST is my king and protector…..I have no need to worry about idle threats from you guys.
What are you going to do? Throw me off a cliff too?!? Puh-leze…….
March 4th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Christ, Buddha, Ghandi and others say Love the Person, Hate the Deed. I pray for him and others who have been put into situations where such atrocities may occur. They need us to pray for them to give them strength to do the right thing. May God have mercy on them all.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:11 am
you went too far posting his personal info on here. not cool.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:12 am
this guy is a peice of living sh*t. he is a disgrace to himself and the united states marine corps
March 4th, 2008 at 11:13 am
This is not completely on point and I am in no way, shape, or form condoning the despicable and deranged behavior of this Marine. (I am a former Marine Corps Commissioned Officer who served in combat in Vietnam.)
I am reminded of a short story (by a German author I believe) which came out during the Vietnam War (the American one!) in which a young war protester was desperate to awaken peoples’ consciousness as to the horrors being regularly inflicted upon much of the Vietnamese civilian population by napalm and other means. At the time the anti-war protests were not gaining much traction. Much of the public appeared more or less apathetic. That was to all change when the young man suddenly carried out a public incineration of a dog. People were absolutely shocked and immediately started protesting the burning of the dog, but great concern for the continued napalming of the Vietnamese civilians never seemed to materialize (at least in the story, anyway).
It is no wonder that we never see an acutal or even a close up depicted human abortion being performed on our TV screens in spite of all the other mindless violence which comes across them every day, but no doubt a public surgical abortion of an animal would raise immense protests by animal rights groups.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:14 am
i like to have 5 min with u
March 4th, 2008 at 11:14 am
So you fight blood with blood huh Sue? I’m sure that killing a human who killed an animal will do justice for this whole situation. You are all as animalistic and sadistic as the guy throwing the puppy. Christians? Hardly. Human beings? More subhuman than the animals who did this by insinutating that he die slow and tortuous deaths for his doing. By that logic most of you would be dead as well, you mud slinging self righteous bastards
March 4th, 2008 at 11:15 am
This is so shocking and sad. Please pray for our military and the ending of these horrible wars, our world needs prayer while the truth comes out and these things are dealt with. Pray for truth and justice to be done and for the innocent to be protected and the guilty to be caught and punished.
It is a time of testing of the soul of each person and of governments, spread the word we must pass these moral tests individually and as nations. The present plants the seeds for what we will harvest in the future. If you care about your own life, the lives of your children, your grandchildren, your neighborhood, your state, and nation we must choose Light over darkness.
I and many others have been crying out to God for justice over the unjust cruel wars for weeks. Thank God that these things are being revealed and that there are still people who say NO we will NOT act as if we were heartless animals! Life has value, it is precious and we as a species from our heart say STOP the inhumanity, STOP the killing, STOP the plots against the innocent, STOP trying to justify evil. Take responsibility for being moral, ethical, good and just whether you are an individual of have authority over others. Just think about where we are going. Rise up and care !
Support the Troops END the Wars.
This is the Word for this hour and these times:
Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both you and your seed may live:
March 4th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Now the flouridated cool-aid drinkin’ Jew haters are trying to blame the puppy killers on Israel and the Jews. Just when you thought you’ve heard it all……
March 4th, 2008 at 11:17 am
His name is David S. Motari and his address is 24419 Florence Acres Rd. in Monroe WA 98272. Phone number is 360-794-7191
I’m not saying we should harass him (especially since his the phone is off) but posting this makes it more real and not just some internet video.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:17 am
We’re getting tired of the lies of Alex Jones. We just read Malkin’s blog. His radio days are numbered.
And Truther. We’re coming for you.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Michael Vick
March 4th, 2008 at 11:18 am
#1 Truther , That loser has no way of tracking you down , he’s a murderous coward like his brainwshed buddy who threw the dog off the cliff , don’t worry , + i’m, sure his IP ADDY will be banned as it should be . I guess our troops are brainwashed & just totally lost & obesessed in killing & it’s a shame ,, that’s what it is .. I hope this goes viral !!!
Keep your chin up, this asshole’s Agent Coward can’t get no info to find you not to mention he probably has a low IQ as required by the Military . If you’re too smart , you can’t get in or be a policeman??
Great Work !!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Pure evil demon from the pits of hell.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:19 am
whats Alex Jones lying about?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:19 am
We love fucking with the lines.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:21 am
I met that piece of s**t a long time ago, he told me stories of shoving dogs in shopping carts with some sort of lid on it and starting a fire underneath…
March 4th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Motari,
You are a heartless son of a bitch. I trust that your family finds out about your lack of compassion and outright callous hatred of life. You think you’re a big shot and tough. You are gutless and spineless. Killing a defenseless puppy only proves just what a coward you really are. Now live with this on your conscience. You are the weakest type of evil.
David S. Motari’s address is 24419 Florence Acres Rd. in Monroe WA 98272.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Hey AgentMarine,
Why don’t you just publish your address for all of us to see and we will save you the time and gas that you cannot afford on your sad salary and just come for you.
I know I would be happy to save you the trip.
Don’t come up on this board making threats you cannot backup.
You sleep we creep.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Agent marine why are you making threats against truther? You see we do want you to know where we are we are standing for the United States and the priciples of the Constitution we have all enjoyed. I beleive it is sad day when you feel you must threaten people and not look at the big picture of how you have allowed yourself to not think and become a slave to the powers who are trying to bring down the once great nation of United States. You and all who think like you are a sad sad group. May our God have mercy on you because you seem to have no mercy and can only threaten and live in fear of the truth.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:24 am
We’re watching you too, Sgt John.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Why the concern over a puppy? He didn’t feel his death. Think about what this guy might do to little Iraqi girls and boys and women and the elderly…
March 4th, 2008 at 11:25 am
99% of Marines are homosexual child molesters. It’s not so shocking seeing a video like this. They are trying to compensate for a 2 inch penis. It’s all very transparent.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:25 am
FYI: I found this on another page. BTW, Agent Marine is a (faux) feddie so don’t take anything they say seriously. Sgt John and I both agree, #1 Truther, keep up the good work….
David Motari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191
(714) 330-0418
DAVID MOTARI FACTS:
1) He is now in Iraq, or Hawaii (in Kaneohe Bay)
2) He is the soldier in the video (see the pics of Iraq on his Bebo site for confirmation)
3) He married Jessica Thatcher in January 2008 (google: david motari heraldnet)
4) His wife moved to Hawaii on Feb 24, 2008 (google: david motari jessica myspace, choose “nathen – 20″, her friend)
5) He signed Ipetitions:
152 David Motari I am a Marine currently serving in Iraq. I would hate to see our team move out of Seattle…
Pentagon Switchboard
703-545-6700
Department of Defense
(703) 699-1800
(703) 607-4400
United States Army
(703) 695-2769
Call them!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Marine, I’ll bet your favorite football player was Michael Vick, and you’ll be voting for Mike Huckebee.
Michael Vick gets 23 months- Huckebee’s son tortures & kills a dog; walks scott free
——————————————————————————–
Hung a dog from a tree, and killed it.
Presidential Candiate Mike Huckabee’s Son David Tortured and Killed Stray Dog in 1998, Charges Never Filed and Huckabee Not Punished
http://dogblog.dogster.com/200.....-punished/
March 4th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Ra why don’t you cool the Michael Vick analogy, Vick stood up and accepted responsibility and may even do hard time. This guy is a nutcase with no apparent remorse…
March 4th, 2008 at 11:28 am
sam Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 11:21 am
I met that piece of s**t a long time ago, he told me stories of shoving dogs in shopping carts with some sort of lid on it and starting a fire underneath…
Usually sociopaths like this, become serial killers later! Fact! They move on to torturing humans and worse!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:29 am
I have a challenge for Agent Marine.
2 years ago I tuned in Alex Jones to laugh at him. He always said “Don’t believe me do your own research”. So I did and I have never found him to have lied about anything.
You can find all this info on the net. So I dare you Agent Marine to do your own research.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:30 am
99% of Marines are homosexual child molesters. It’s not so shocking seeing a video like this. They are trying to compensate for their 2 inch penis. It’s all very transparent.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:30 am
80
the Kingfish Says
Why don’t you Amos, and Andy go eat some watermellon.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:31 am
It’s obvious the dog is Alive because the back legs are curled. They would be completely limp if the puppy was dead. This guy needs to get shot in the face. If I ever see him on the street I’ll knife him, you can put that in the books!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Called the Army today, filed a formal complaint. The gentleman was MORE than aware of what’s been going on. It’s really sick! Of course the puppy was alive! Dead puppies don’t curl their legs and lick their lips! Neither do stuffed puppies! This is just SICK! And to think.. these are the guys coming back TO RULE OVER US!!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:33 am
I hope the us army makes an experiment with you causing you brain damage for the rest of your disgusting life
March 4th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Chris Geo,
You probably should have called the MARINES not the US ARMY
March 4th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Chris -
Called the Army huh? Nice move. I’m sure they took you very seriously as someone with half a brain. HE IS A MARINE! I’m sure they had a good laugh after they hung up. You do realize that they are seperate don’t you?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Well its nice to see that this sadistic scumbag is getting what he has coming to him. Like the man in #59, I find it strange that people get more worked up about the death and torture of a puppy more than that of their fellow human beings, perhaps because dogs are known for loyalty, honesty, undying dedication, and an ancient friendship with humanity and people… well are people. I’m glad that some of you guys were able to get his info out into the public. I’m not saying someone should actually seek him out because this sort of thing will follow you for the rest of your life and could come up in job interviews, personal relationships, etc. and will serve as a warning to all that have anything to do with him, not to mention the thought of so many angry people being aware of your evil can make for some very sleepless nights. I hope (but doubt) that he’s reading these posts, but I certainly hope he his… sleep tight little demon for as I hope your stunt with this innocent puppy has taught you how fragile every life is and how many of us never see the end coming. A person willing to do this to a puppy has no business walking the streets with high-tech weapons and holding the lives of his fellow Marines and civilians in his twisted hands. I doubt very much that he’s even had any trigger time, if he had, he would know how special every life is and would get no joy of such a sick act. I hope your commanding officer (if he’s any sort of marine) rips you a new one and your squad and team leaders should be making your life a living hell! If I were in your situation Mr. Motari, I’d be watching my back. I’m sure there are dog lovers in your platoon and they just might not find your life worth saving when things go down hill, personally I’d be tempted to use you as a human shield in such situations!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Guy definitly has a mental disability better prevent him from getting a weapon from gun store. Hay this new anti 2nd amendment law may be worth having after all CATCH 22!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Hope I run into this prick in the bar!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:54 am
What the fuck there are people still claiming that there is no way to know for sure if this puppy was real? Obviously it is real. If they made a stuffed animal complete with skin that stretches, and the right weight, why not sell them in stores, they would sell like candy. It is obvious that in the context of the conversation that everyone who was there agreed it was real and very much alive (awwww a puppy, how cute, *after tossing it* her her that was mean) that alone shows it was not only real but alive. I hope someone in washington, or hawaii or where he is right now sees this video then runs into him the very same day and puts him in his place.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:59 am
I don’t endorse vigilantism….unless it gets results….which it will!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
fucking bastard!!!! go to kill yourself!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Dead puppies do not pull their legs up like that when held by the scruff of the neck.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
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Richard Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 11:47 am
Hope I run into this prick in the bar!
yea he wont run into another
March 4th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
This Motari person is scum of the lowest order. He is a dishonor to the human race.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
They need to chuck the f@!%er off of a very high cliff with LOTS of sharp pointy rocks at the bottom! And to think that these types of idiots are coming back home…?!? Where’s the justice people???
March 4th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
This guy is so pathetic, look at him, nothing more than a coward. A grown man killing a small puppy, when I was a child I chased cats and I even tackled my dog that was way bigger than me. But did he think killing a puppy was a hoot? Good God man grow up. If you kill and torture small animals then you belong in the US armed services huh?
March 4th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
brad Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 10:35 am
it was a puppy, not a human. Iraq is a war, not a cakewalk.
__________________________________________________
So because there is a war in Iraq, that makes it ok for our military to kill a defenseless animal just for the fun of killing?
I remember after WW2 in Germany, lots of GIs raped civilians. They were someone to be feared, not welcomed.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Its amazing this upsets so many people. Who cares about the hundreds of thousands of people dying horrible deaths. Who cares about the fact this war is leading us straight to financial armageddon. The poor puppy.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Hey, Bozo. Humans can defend themselves. Puppies can’t.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Andy White,
why does caring about this puppy preempt caring about hundreds of thousands of people? This particular outrage is about a puppy. I outrage about the innocents in other posts.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
his page is closed, im a member of bebo and cannot see it.
someones working fast.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
“it was a puppy, not a human”! that makes it worse,a puppy cant defend its self,a human can.
u are a sick individual my friend!
March 4th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
life is life….puppy or human…it’s the RESPECT OF LIFE….that is important.
i’m not surprised that it’s another piece of shit marine. i’m sure the military people have done some very honorable things…..but each honorable deed is destroyed when they do sadistic evil deeds.
this is so digusting…under the guise of (fake) war, they are justifying torture and murder.
eight words i’m afraid of: “i’m from the government, i’m here to help.” they never do.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
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Andy White Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
“Its amazing this upsets so many people. Who cares about the hundreds of thousands of people dying horrible deaths. Who cares about the fact this war is leading us straight to financial armageddon. The poor puppy”
are you a complete jackass? or just a partial one?
i have read many comments concerning the horrible atrocities that humans are facing around the world….and many of those comments have outrage, anger and disgust.
no one has said that “it’s ok for humans to be tortured, but leave the puppy alone”.
Pull your head out of your ass….you’ll find the view is much nicer out here.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
someones working hard, all thepages on bebo are closed, wiki articles being pulled down left right and center…. still searchable on google but page does not exist….
March 4th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Now do you understand what they are doing to our young adults in Iraq—-CREATING KILLING MACHINES!! Trying to SUPPRESS THE HIGHER CONSCIOUS!! However the ENLIGHTMENT PROCESS IS ADVANCING AS WE INTER THE AGE OF AQUARIUS! The power elite KNOW THIS AND ARE RUNNING SCARED!! AND ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO STOP THIS PROCESS!!
That is the purpose for ALL THIS WORLD WIDE SORROW AND PAIN!!
BUT: SORRY ANI”T GONNA HAPPEN!!
THE COSMOS IS A MUCH STRONGER FORCE!!!!!
Believe in YOURSELF AND THE POWER OF LOVE— IT WILL PREVAIL!!!
LOVE IS A HIGHER HEALING VIBRATION!!
March 4th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
agent marine,
your a fucking punk, come find me.
you need to get got!!
March 4th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I am willing to bet with a high 80% gambler’s certainty that not only is this not the first dog or pet that he has killed, but probably just one of many. he probably bragged to his friend about his pet killing tendencies before he did this .. demonstration.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
THE N.W.O HAS ONE DARK MISSION:
To subjugate all human life, by deferring hope, to make our hearts sick. The antidote to this vile spitting puff adder, is for the very sap, the very spirit of humanity, present on this planet, TO UNITE AS ONE. AND RISE TOGETHER, ROLE BACK THE STONE AND WE’LL FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, TO NEVER SAY DIE. For WITHOUT THE SOUL OF HUMANITY, THIS PLANET WILL SURELY DIE – Like a dog in the sand of some psychopath’s dream of darkness, forever!
WOE TO YOU PREACHERS OF APPEASEMENT!
YOU DEAD MENS BONES,
YOU OPEN GRAVES!!!
RISE AND SHINE HUMANITY, like Cody said; LETS SEE WHAT THIS METALS MADE OF, I WANNA SEE THE IMMORTALITY OF LOVE.
…MAXIMUS
http://www.infowarsupportnetwork.com
March 4th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
They only throw puppies right?
THEY WOULD NEVER THROW PEOPLE.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1bf_1204382002
March 4th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
How much closer does it have to look like this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Sg1k1hlGg
March 4th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
UNDERGROUND, OVERGROUND LOOKIN’ FOR LUV
THE SUN BEATS DOWN IT DON’T
IT WON’T, IT DON’T EVER GIVE UP
WHILE SCORPIONS PLAY IN THE SHADOWS IN THE SAND
I JUST KEEP GETTING
I JUST KEEP GETTING
I KEEP GETTING, BLISTERS ON MY HANDS
LET’S SEE WHAT THIS METAL’S MADE OF
I WANNA SEE ITS IMMORTALITY
SEE WHAT THIS METAL’S MADE OF
I WANNA SEE THE IMMORTALITY OF LUV
Copyright ©2001 Jonnie Malvados and L.A. Cody
http://www.lacody.com
March 4th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
For some reason, I’ve always held to the apparently erroneous idea that we as humans should only fight when provoked. In this case with the pup, there was no provocation–just sheer boredom and delight.
But, for those who find this act cute and acceptable, then you best keep an eye out for hotheads like me to walk up to your girlfriend or daughter and bash their faces in with a tire iron repeatedly. No apologies, that’s just how I roll, and your people shouldnt’ve been in my way. And come to think of it, why shouldn’t I have that privilege? As a MAN who actually craves violence, it’s my right to have a little fun. You see, life is meaningless across all forms anyway. Your loved ones being no exception. And no, it isn’t wrong to neeedlessly murder, so don’t cry when the guillotine falls on one of your own. I can assure you it will.
Don’t forget: This is Earth, not a cakewalk.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I don’t understand how he could be so dumb as to make a video of the incident. I was , however, just a dog. He had control of the dog and he could do with it as he wished. Not that I condone what he did, however, there should be no consequences other than what he will later suffer in his own conscience.
March 4th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
i wanted to post on ms. malkin’s blog but dont see where to register. they are debating whether its alive or dead, as if being dead would make it more acceptable. but those who think it was dead are missing an even more profound point:
if the dog was dead (it wasnt, but if): THEN ITS EVEN MORE OR EQUALLY SICK THAT A HUMAN IS PICKING UP DEAD CARCASSES AND THROWING THEM ABOUT FOR FUN.
please remind people of that if they start debating the dead dog angle of this video.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
open your eyes people this wolrd government is out to get us be careful……… oh by the way dog killer i slept with your wife
March 4th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Somehow, I seem to get the feeling that a lot of you may have missed the scope of this incident. What if it was meant to get on the net, what if it was intended to be used to outrage those among us. My question would then be, what are they doing that isn’t making the news while this is. Remember the magicians hands, at times like this, that is very important.
Now lets take all of this a step forward. I have seen the video, and it is very heartbreaking especially to anyone, who like me loves animals. That said, we need to realize that this young marine is some ones son, and no doubt his family may very well find this all very confusing. Harassing anyone over this will not ease the pain, and only makes those who say bad things look bad, too.
Having been in the military, and being a Vietnam veteran, I can only say that an incident like this could be a sign of many things, including PTSD, or combat stress. What must be realized is that we have put our soldiers in a terrible situation. Since we no longer have a draft, and a continual influx of new soldiers into the military, these troops are being sent back to Iraq tour after tour. Even the very best and most mentally adjusted of the group, can only take so much before they begin to break down, especially with them being under the day to day stress that they are. I have lived under this stress, and believe me, when there is no out, and every minute of every day you wonder when the bullet or what ever else with your name on it is coming, it takes it toll.
I don’t know any of the history behind this young man’s career, but I would hesitate to come down on him as some of you have. yes what he done was truly inhumane, but what I would wonder is what was the stressor that pushed him to do this. Yes it is true there are evil people who do evil things, but I have seen what life in a combat zone can do to good men, and knowing that, I hesitate to judge him without knowing all of the facts.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
David call, Wants to know if anyone needs a “Pet Sitter”?
March 4th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Just like people who have been or are addicted to drugs. It started with cigaretts perhaps even alcohol, then pot, then cocaine then etc…This is a warning sign when people can hurt helpless animals. It’s a beginning stage to something much darker going on in that persons mind.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
This guy needs to be beheaded by the enemy or by our side.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
i hope this guy gets kicked out of the military and commits suicide.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
David Motari, Alleged Puppy Killer, Tracked Down
Evil!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
The magicians hands are off the coast of Lebanon supporting I.srael in their massacre of Gazans.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
GET OVER IT ALEX AND THE REAL ISSUE IS OUR TROOPS BEING USED
March 4th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Understand that the solider’s behaviour is the DESIRED RESULTS THEY ARE TRYING TO ACHEIVE!!
They are BRAINWASHING OUR young adults and PURPOSELY “CREATING KILLING MACHINES”!!
REMEMBER– IF WE ALL RISE ABOVE THIS NEGATIVE VIBRATION—THEY WILL HAVE “NO ARMY”!
NO ONE WILL FIGHT!!!
THEN THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO CARRY OUT THERE NWO! OR CONTROL US!!
IT STARTS WITHIN EACH OF US—–THE HIGHER VIBRATION!!
IT’S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW—-LOOK AT ALL THE TRUTH THAT IS COMING OUT AND IT’S EFFECTS!!
THE COSMOS IS A STRONGER FORCE AND THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO STOP THIS ENLIGHTMENT!!!
BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!!! YOU ARE THE LIGHT!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
#122 OldVet – Thanks. For a bunch of folks who claim to be for liberty and freedom, they are sure quick to get to the hangin’. On one hand, claims of experiments, stress and stop loss lament the poor soldier being over worked, underpaid and put at extremely high risk for haliburton contracts. But because its a puppy, he’s to be hung drawn and quartered…not pitied for being subject to those same things they denounce. What a bunch of reactionary simps. And for all the simps claiming to be marines ‘watching and coming to get everyone’, no one is scared or impressed. The lines in the sand are being drawn and everyone is rushing to play the part reserved for them.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
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Matthew Brown Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
David call, Wants to know if anyone needs a “Pet Sitter”?
YOUR A SICK Bastard too!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Old Vet, Very well said! Plus this IS the type of behavior pure evil NWO wants and Pentagon too! Fact!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Still think its fake? Check this out:
http://garlinggauge.com/2008/0.....g-animals/
March 4th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
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Silver Thread Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I don’t understand how he could be so dumb as to make a video of the incident. I was , however, just a dog. He had control of the dog and he could do with it as he wished. Not that I condone what he did, however, there should be no consequences other than what he will later suffer in his own conscience.
To have NO consequences? Come on! He needs to be drummed out of service! How long before he does this to innocent Iraqi’s? To the delight of Pentagon, and pure evil NWO? And what about equally guilty other guy, who did NOT attempt to STOP him? He needs dishonorable discharge too!
March 4th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
PTSD?? Really? I know plenty of people who have been diagnosed with PTSD and none of them threw an innocent puppy off a cliff. Getting spooked into firing at civilians whilst on patrol? Sure. Suicide? Sure. Premeditated rape and murder or smiling whilst killing an animal? nope. Anyone justifying this shit is crazy. I hope they throw that bastard off a cliff. Wonder how many other things he’s done. Way to let down your entire country. Sorry Old Vet, I will not hesitate to come down on him. There’s not 2 sides to this, just sick fool carrying out a violent crime. I’m sure he’ll claim PTSD tho.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I will say it makes me happy to see such a response from people—that’s a lot better then people NOT CARING! This is a GOOD SIGN!! What ever it takes for people to feel compassion!! and concern, and love!
BOTTM LINE————-WERE ALL VICTIM”S INCLUDING OUR SOLIDER’S!!
ESPECIALLY OUR SOLIDER’S!!!!!
LET’S GET THEM OUT OF THERE!!
March 4th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
This is what marines have become? I hope he gets another tour to Iraq and he has his throat sliced on national tv. ANYONE that would do something like this is evil and don’t say it was ONLY a puppy, it is sadistic. Has he done this in Iraq? to humans? I wish him death and his cohorts. This is not what the marines are suppose to represent. I hope his family is proud now that he is national news and I hope everyone demands that higher military officials deal with him, and all others who participated in this including those that filmed this.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
This person needs a thorough psych evaluation and be discharged from the Marine Corps with a less than honorable discharge, sentenced to clean kennels and puppy farms for the remainder of his enlistment contract time. Then be displayed in public as the person in the video.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Being a former Marine with 1st Marines in Vietnam, Marines were never taught to kill helpless animals. Now if I was his platoon Sgt. he would be up on charges and I would push for everything the Marine Corp. would allow. I defintely would write him up on coduct unbecoming a Marine, because there was no call for what he did, bored or other wise.
Did anyone report him to his commander, if not send pictures to his commander and to his divison commander that will get some bodys att.
Former Marine Sgt.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Ofc this wasnt a fake, just look on how the puppy is crouched. Same thing as when you carry kittens by the neck, they become passive and its natural. If the puppy was dead the legs wouldn’t be in that position at all. I hope the tard gets an assbeating.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
This is the most incomprehensible action I have ever seen. This man is a disgrace to the Marines. My father and my uncle were true marines, this is a scared little boy with nothing else to do than torture little innocent animals. Disgusting.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
This is stupid, Iraqi people eat dogs treat their animals like shit and the marines get caned for a random animal abuse video. Ive seen camels, dogs, cats get shot or blown up in air strikes. Alot of people in America abuse animals just the same. But lets make a camp fire a forest fire. GG
March 4th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Obviously sick and needs proffesional help
March 4th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Boys will be boys. I don’t know about you sissies out there, but this here Marine did his fair share of killing puppies, kitties, birds etc. Take a big chill pill folks. Let’s stay focused on saving our tanking dollar, falling stock market, controlling the oil in the desert and preserving our 2A right. All you haters are a bunch of freakin hypocrites. Go grow up on a farm ya cry babies..borrow a pair and leave the jarhead to doing what he is paid to do..kill shit, eh.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
I blasted a cat with a 12 gauge once…
March 4th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
So stupid Alex making a big deal .and should did with the real ISSUES like our troops being used in Iraq and Afphganistan.. saying this is soo bad and the soldiers are so crazy(obviously sick) ..GET REAL we know its bad and they are SICK BUT STAY ON THE REAL ISSUE and OUR SOLDIERS NEED OUR SUPPORT
March 4th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
STAY FOCUSED ALEX STAY FOCUSED
March 4th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Captain USMCR Says:
So Cap
I guess Motari should have stuck with just splattering Iraqi humans, hunh?
“Let’s stay focused on saving our tanking dollar, falling stock market, controlling the oil in the desert”
Jeez Cap. I thought we were supposed to be controlling Saddam’s WMD thingies. What’s this oil stuff got to do with it?
March 4th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Yo Captain,
Having sympathy for defenseless animals doesn’t necessarily mean “sissies” won’t slit someone’s throat with car keys if provoked. I’ve met plenty of cats who fought in Angola and the Korean War who’ll shove a blunt machete through your face if you were to fuck with their pet. Don’t seperate having fat balls from compassion.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Captain USMCR:
Americans always been so professionals?
Well since you suck hard at combat so you kill animals and civilians instead.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
What are you going to do? Stalk this guy?
March 4th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Martial artists study how to brutally defend against, and possibly kill, an attacker. However, most responsible sensei also teach SELF CONTROL. You military pigs are out of control. You are senseless killers, rapists, and you are not fit to carry the title of Warrior.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
No. We’re gonna’ trivialize and forget his actions.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Exactly right Irony, these young troops confuse ruthlessness with manlihood, A man or women can kill when they need to and still have a solid moral foundation, the problem we have today is the gang wannabees white trash comes off the streets wearing their pants down like prison homos, they join the service and carry that mentality and attitude into the military and the whole service degenerates in that way.
Most people don’t understand the fine line between killing from a necessity and murder, so we get street punks with automatics who revel in death and mayhem.
None of those peole should evr become policemen until they have been deprogrammed, rots u ruck with that.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
This lonely soul is not a Marine nor is he a man. Im proud of our troops but disgusted by this piece of S**T. Lets make a petition and send him back to Iraq in uniform but with no weapons.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Anon you have never been to the sandbox you don’t know anything besides what you have seen on youtube or tv. So how can you say military pigs? You have never been in combat or embraced a person that lost half of their body. You have never fed starving children that poop in the street. You just have a comment thats all. If your so high and mighty go over there and help , oh wait you never will.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Noone is stalking this guy we just want to make life miserable for him and perhaps he can just jump of the cliff.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Hay Dave Motari ,what goes around comes around. 22 year old dick incharge of a gun and throwing puppys of a cliff ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,tit
March 4th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
“anothermarine Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Anon you have never been to the sandbox you don’t know anything besides what you have seen on youtube or tv. So how can you say military pigs? You have never been in combat or embraced a person that lost half of their body. You have never fed starving children that poop in the street. You just have a comment thats all. If your so high and mighty go over there and help , oh wait you never will.”
Amen to that!
March 4th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
He hauled back with that puppy like he was chucking a grenade.
The really sad part is so many innocent people are dying on top of this defenseless little puppy being thrown to its’ death. What a shame and disgrace for us, for letting our country devolve to this kind of behavior. We have already won in Iraq, even though there was no reason to go in the first place. Time to bring our troops home. Pray for that, pray for them, pray for all of us.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
anothermarine:
You are obviously one of the few good soldiers. My fight is not with you.
March 4th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
THANK YOU ANOTHER MARINE FOR YOUR SERVICE
March 4th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Read the second two comments on his bebo. A five year old knows that throwing a puppy off a cliff is cruel. This thing is total $hit.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
You stupid fucking marines, I have been to the “sandbox” AKA AL Fallajuh and Ar Amadi. I was there for a little over 12 months with the US Army. Unfortunately, I landed in Kuwait March 28, 2003. At that time I had none of the amenities you have now, yet I never was bored enough, or fucking perverse enough to throw a puppy off a cliff. I guess I was to busy getting fired upon in convoy’s and watching my friends die. I’d like to see how you’d fare attempting to throw me off a cliff. As a veteran I support our troops and never wished any harm upon any of them until now. I truly hope a 7.62 round finds it’s way into your skull.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Jeremy Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
You stupid fucking marines, I have been to the “sandbox” AKA AL Fallajuh and Ar Amadi. I was there for a little over 12 months with the US Army. Unfortunately, I landed in Kuwait March 28, 2003. At that time I had none of the amenities you have now, yet I never was bored enough, or fucking perverse enough to throw a puppy off a cliff. I guess I was to busy getting fired upon in convoy’s and watching my friends die. I’d like to see how you’d fare attempting to throw me off a cliff. As a veteran I support our troops and never wished any harm upon any of them until now. I truly hope a 7.62 round finds it’s way into your skull.
I think your time over in the sandbox has shattered your mind. You need to see a doctor
March 4th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
THINK JEREMY ….not thier fault Obviously very sick they need proffesional HELP AND YOUR SUPPORT NOT JUDGEMENT
March 4th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Good soldiers – this isn’t an attack on YOUR honor. If you are not one of these death worshipers, then don’t get offended! Yes, I support our GOOD troops. But this war machine is evil. Instead of getting offended, why not JOIN OUR CAUSE! Our country is dying – it is being gutted from the inside out. Liberty has been whipped and beaten, and she has dropped her torch to light our way. Stop trying to defend the honor of the corps – because there is no honor left in our military.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
To all the tough internet thug wannabe trolls on this comment section. When the time comes and it will come, you will be in reality facing the people whom you troll against. We have real anger, and passion which you do not have, so who do you think will overcome? I know when that time comes for you and your kind, this tough guy attitude you spew on the internet will become a dream that you cannot conjure up in reality. Enjoy your internet ego it will not last long.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I do think, what I think about is the good friends I lost over there during the march through Baghdad. I’ve come to terms, and cope just fine living a normal life as a civilian now. Assholes like this are the ones that should be taking bullets and shrapnel from IED’s, instead of hard working soldiers that do thier job with professionalism and honor. I can think what I want and do as I please, just as the soldier who threw that puppy off the cliff. He chose to for whatever reason, I’m sure it was a “good” one though. All the emotional stress and memories I have from Iraq make me want to throw puppies off of cliffs too. Seriously, someone from PETA should knife him.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
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March 4th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
The blokes obviously a twat , but what do you expect of someone who kills other people because some general/politician told him to? These people dont think for themselves
March 4th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
If this is for real, my hope is that the sick bastard marine gets thrown off a cliff to his death, along with the globalist crime syndicate who sent him and many others to attack sovereign nations on their own patch for no good reason whatsoever.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
THANK YOU JEREMY FOR YOUR SERVICE IM A HUGE FAN!!!! WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU !!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
anothermarine and Captain USMCR… I am a retired Marine, Vietnam veteran and you two are full of it up to your beady little brown eyes. For anyone, let alone a Marine, to do some sick stuff as this and videotape it is just handing ammunition to jackasses like code pink. And YOU have the nerve to DEFEND this cretin in the uniform of MY Marine Corps. What the hell are you thinking? Captain, if that’s what you are, you are way too full of yourself. That moron is NOT paid to throw puppies off cliffs. And if you are still serving, I would HIGHLY recommend you resign your commission RIGHT F*CKING NOW. You are utterly unfit to be in my Marine Corps. “another (so-called) marine”… what the iraqis do with their dogs, same as what the Vietnamese did with theirs, has NOTHING to do with throwing a helpless puppy off a cliff. MARINES DO NOT DO DUMB SHIT LIKE THAT. We PROTECT the innocent and the helpless, we do NOT harm them, especially in such a gratuitous manner as this. He is sick for doing it and YOU are equally sick for defending him.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Ok so you didn’t spell any area you listed right. What installations were you at Sgt.Killer Jeremy? And you never got bored enough to kill puppies? Weird I didn’t either whats your point?
March 4th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
HI another Marine gee I wanted a hi!!!did you see my posts?
March 4th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
DC Wright, Listen here old timer things have changed sense your LSD days of napalm and Vietnamese’s hookers ok? Your an old fart with a harsh opinion on other marines which makes me sick. The damn dogs get eaten and beaten by their owners anyway. Place all the blame on the marine though hes truly the real problem with the world.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I hope this guy get shot in the head on his last day before going home.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Grusome, but so is eating meat for pleasure. Those dudes were obviously PTSD’d out. PeTA’s going to be after him because he killed a stray puppy, yet they euthanize dogs by the kennel-load.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com
Unless you’ve been vegan your whole life, your conscience isn’t clean of having killed animals for unnecessary emotional satisfaction.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
AgentMarine, you’re a piece of crap. Stop wasting everyone’s time here with your empty threats of other posters. We all know you’re probably some 16 year old dip-shit behind a computer living with your parents. You scare no one, and are just taking up space you worthless piece of smelly trash. Crawl into a hole and die please. Thank you.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
To all the people who are trying to change this argument into one about military honor, or those who would say, “What would you do if you went to the ’sandbox’”:
http://garlinggauge.com/2008/0.....g-animals/
They threw a flashbang at a farmer! So there was mention of helping the poor Iraqi children. What about this? How did throwing a flashbang at a sheep herder fulfill any humanitarian function? Are you going to tell me this is a fake too? That this video of human torture was created to defame the military?
They laughed about it! They scared a civilian sheepherder with a weapon, and possibly caused damage to his livestock. Is that humanitarian work?
March 4th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Baby killers and Puppy killers
March 4th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
I’m sick to my stomach. This man is absolutely crazy. He has no respect for life. He’s supposed to be a highly regarded military man whos here to protect and he’s out there killing animals out of pure enjoyment, especially animals who could be “mans best friend” or a member of someones family. I dont see why he should live. Lets throw him off a cliff and see how he likes it. The jerk!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Another marine….I was with 1st of the 3rd us cav, look up thier unit history if you’re that interested. You know? That unit that cleaned up the Marines mess in Fallujah. My point is the individuals who took part in the tossing, fliming or just involvled in the general gagglefuck need to spend a considerable amount of time at Leavenworth.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
What type of cruelty must be going on in IRAQ and Afghanistan ?
March 4th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Na that isn’t enough he should suffer what that dog suffered.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
What threats? What was I doing to scare people? Post your phone number if your a man and want to resolve things Ill show you a 16 year old.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I want him to be thrown off that exact cliff no better yet catapolted.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
another (alleged) marine… you don’t get it, do you? The Marine Corps is charged with PROTECTING AND DEFENDING innocent life, NOT gratuitously TAKING it, whether or not it’s an animal. Yes, in combat, collateral damage happens and it is to be regretted and avoided whenever possible. Nor does it matter WHAT the indigenous population does with their animals, eat them or whatever. It is NOT FOR THE UNITED STATES MARINE to take it upon himself to do dumb shit like this. He is one sick POS and so are you for defending the indefensible. And thanks to the BOTH of you for handing the Code Pinkos more ammunition to use against MY Marine Corps. You’re a pair of worthless assholes and do NOT deserve the title of Marine. You and John Murtha…
March 4th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
anothermarine, were you Agent Marine? Did you change your posting name? If not then I wasn’t talking about you.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
You cleaned up our mess , the army always takes care of the leftovers thats their job. And I agree the kid should be brought in for a psych evaluation. Thats what happened to me and now I`m back in the states becoming a cop. Pei please post more hate tells thx
March 4th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
The Jesuits did not attack us on 9/11 – ISRAEL DID
Your smoke screen aint gonna work.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
No, i’m tired of losers on here acting all tough going “We’re coming for you” and “We’re watching you too” etc etc like Agent Marine did back in earlier posts (around page 7 or 8 or so) I’ll post whatever I want to these losers who are nothing but either 16 year old little shits or agents that get paid to come on message boards like this to screw with people and threaten them.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Actually this video was taken from the Hillary TV ad in Dallas.
The black and white puppy by the name Obama was suppose to represent Barak because he is half white and he was suppose to fly back to his district.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I`m not Agent Marine, I thought you were referring to me my apologizes . And DC Wright , id be glad to shake your hand hell if you want to call and resolve things be my guest. I was taught kill kill kill in the marines. I was taught that Iraqi people are dogs by my high ups. I was 18 years old when I joined after high school. What the hell makes you any better? You were taught by the same system you wore the same attire in boot camp. Go take out the Code Pinkos mr.man they are totally out of control!!! BTW how much dumb shit did you do out in Vietnam? Don’t lie.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
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jon Says
I love a Pope, I love a Jesuit, and I love a puppy.
http://www.dogbreed-gifts.com/.....lution.jpg
March 4th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
anothermarine…yes we (3rd Cav) cleaned up your mess. Your leftovers however…were the pissed Iraqi’s and insurgents you left in Fallujah. If you and the rest of the Marines would have done your job properly, my unit wouldnt have lost half the troops we did there. I’m not getting into a pissing contest with someone who claims to be a marine over the internet. I know I served, I know I served well and never compramised my morals. I did what I had to do over there and that was that. Good luck with police academy, you might want to change your attitude if you ever intend to make it through.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
It sickens me to think that such EVIL walks in the form of a human and he’s a MARINE! I sure hope the US Marine Corp prosecutes this guy — or they wil sully their good reputation. This guy ought to be thrown off a cliff, and I’d like to volunteert to be the one who pushes this wacko sociopath! David Motari, you’re identity is known and I don’t know if the other loser in the video is known yet, but he will be. I hope you meet the same fate that innocent little puppy met. You are trash. Please, radical animal rights activists, make an example out of this loser…
March 4th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
It’s funny reading all the half assed responses from both conservatives and liberals.
I’m not for the war but people like Pei below should probably jump off the cliff in the video. Your life blows.
March 4th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
PIECE OF F**ING SH**T I HOPE TO GOD THIS KID GETS F**ING FAMOUS SO HE CAN LIVE THAT LITTLE F**ING STUNT DOWN THE REST OF HIS LIFE F**CK
March 4th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Ive already passed the physical and verbal
We lost alot more than you did in that takeover go find the numbers. If your interested. We did a great job I don’t know what your talking about , we didn’t go in after it was all over and start shooting the woman and children trying to escape the city , don’t say it isn’t true cause everyone heard about it.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
The Jesuits did not attack us on 9/11 – ISRAEL DID
March 4th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
To: Not a Conservative: Do you liberal pukes always have to past antiwar sentiments everywhere?!? I’m digusted that a US Marine did this, but there are wacko’s in all organizations. Keep your anti war crap to yourself “not so conservative”
Signed,
PROUD CONSERVATIVE, SUPPORTER OF OUR MILITARY AND ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Alex is right about this subject as far as saying that people care more about a puppy than a human life. Yes, a life is a life, whether it be human or animal, but if this article were about a video of a human being killed for sport by the troops there would not be nearly this many comments on this section. Just like Alex mentions at the begining of his show today about Spielberg was going to make a movie about a lost child, and instead made the movie ET and had it be about an alien, because people would respond to it emotionally more than if it were a human. He’s got a point there people and I think it’s something we all need to ponder.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
For those who think the puppy’s cries are fake, listen carefully – you can hear a dog barking in the background. Is that fake too? It is probably the puppy’s mother.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Hearing about something and witnessing it with your own eyes is something very different. I saw the aftermath of marines mistreating iraqi civilians in Fallujah first hand. I along with the rest of my unit suffered the aftermath of the shit storm they created.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
How many innocent women and children has this person KILLED in Iraq ?
No better way to lose your soul than to join the military and kill “Hajees”.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
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anothermarine Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
You cleaned up our mess , the army always takes care of the leftovers thats their job. And I agree the kid should be brought in for a psych evaluation. Thats what happened to me and now I`m back in the states becoming a cop. Pei please post more hate tells thx
BECOMING A COP HUNH ?
MAN, ALEX WAS RIGHT ON AGAIN.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
The lance-corporal CUNT should have his little pecker cut off and shoved up his ass. The FAGOT is a COWARD. The only reason America didn’t win in Vietnam is cause the Vietnamese kicked your ancestors asses. The criminals learned it’s easier to kill innocent defenseless puppies. American GIs are cowards!!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
To all the people who served in the armed services — THANK YOU! I’d like to know if your fellow comrades did stuff like this more than people care to think and do any of you REPORT it to your CO’s?!? If not, then that’s a shame. Scum like this guy ruins the good reputation of Marines. I hope this loser does jail time. I’d like to throw his ass off a big cliff and hear him scream to his death. That poor puppy was tortured to death and I want this piece of filth to pay for it. He lives in Seattle Washington and is 22 years old. I hope he gets harrassed at his home, work, etc. He really needs to pay for what he did to that poor innocent animal. Animals are so genuinely trusting and loving unless it’s a life or death situation. What he did is sickening. Please, somebody in Seattle, nail this guy!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
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Anon Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
For those who think the puppy’s cries are fake, listen carefully – you can hear a dog barking in the background. Is that fake too? It is probably the puppy’s mother.
SOMEONE MAKE A VIDEO OF HIS EXICUTION WITH THE CRYS OF HIS MOTHER IN THE BACKROUND.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Took the words out of my mouth, simpleman1776.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
What the fuck is wrong with these so-called marines? What kind of people get their rocks off torturing animals and harassing innocent people? The “marines” in these videos should just go back to their normal routine of jerkin’ each other off back in the barracks. There’s no hope for people like that. It’s too bad these pathetic excuses for humans are tarnishing the good name of the US Marine Corps.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
The military is killing innocent women & children in Iraq everday. Those people lost their lives but the soldiers LOST THEIR SOULS.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
How many devout Bible believing Christians would HARM the USA to HELP the state of ISRAEL ?
March 4th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
To “simpleman 1776″: It truly scares me to think that YOU are training to be a cop. Maybe they need to do more psych evaluations on YOU. This loser Marine who obviously enjoyed killing an innocent puppy ala Jeffrey Dahmer style is a SOCIOPATH. He has no remorse. He does things for his own enjoyment. Seventy percent plus of people (mostly men) who commit domestic abuse against girlfriends, wives, etc. were ANIMAL TORTURERS AS CHILDREN! Wake up buddy!
If you’re planning to be a cop, maybe you should go to college first and educate yourself since you’ll be allowed to carry a gun and make arrests. That’s a scary thought from someone who thinks this guy just needs a “psych evaluation.” And then what? Justice should be swift — convict him and he does hard jail time. Hopefully karmac justice will be served first — don’t stand next to a cliff David. You’ve dishonored the Marine uniform.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
There are lots like this guy but there are also those trying to get out and doing everything they can not to engage and kill innocent people. Everyone will be called to account for their actions and right soon. Blame those who train them, that’s right they did it to themselves, they joined up to go kill peolple and it shouldn’t suprise anyone that they lose their minds, but everyones time is coming very soon, get ready, these troops aren’t coming home, they’ll be starving and dying of disease like everyone else soon. Food is the ultimate equalizer when it’s in short supply
March 4th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
That fuckin bag of shit! When the shit hits the fan I hope I see that sick fuck on our streets. He’ll probably be raping a child at the time. FUCK THE TROOPS!!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Not a Conservative. haha. Yeah, you and Agent Marine are just little buddies now aren’t you? I see you must agree with his tactics and are probably a little 15 or 16 year old little shit yourself. Get a life my friend. See, I don’t wish death on YOU, because I haven’t seen you threaten people and treat others like crap on here (maybe you did in previous posts I don’t know). Instead I encourage you to do something better with your time. And who knows, I probably should too.
But I won’t sit idlely by while people act all on the internet and say “We’re watching you” and “We’re coming for you” crap. This just futher strengthens my theory that people who put up profiles of themselves with their pictures (places like MySpace, etc) are just plain stupid. People (like Agent Marine) will end up using that kind of stuff against you the first time you say something on a message board that they don’t agree with.
P.S. Kudos April. Give ‘em hell!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Have I wondered onto a LIBERAL anti war website or something?!? Why all the hate against our men and women in uniform who serve and DIE so asswipe liberals can run at the mouth. If you hate the US so much, leave, please.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
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April Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
To “simpleman 1776″: It truly scares me to think that YOU are training to be a cop. Maybe they need to do more psych evaluations on YOU. This loser Marine who obviously enjoyed killing an innocent puppy ala Jeffrey Dahmer style is a SOCIOPATH. He has no remorse. He does things for his own enjoyment. Seventy percent plus of people (mostly men) who commit domestic abuse against girlfriends, wives, etc. were ANIMAL TORTURERS AS CHILDREN! Wake up buddy!
If you’re planning to be a cop, maybe you should go to college first and educate yourself since you’ll be allowed to carry a gun and make arrests. That’s a scary thought from someone who thinks this guy just needs a “psych evaluation.” And then what? Justice should be swift — convict him and he does hard jail time. Hopefully karmac justice will be served first — don’t stand next to a cliff David. You’ve dishonored the Marine uniform.
hey asshole
i reposted a comment from someone else
like duh.
i only said alex was right when he said the troops will be back as cops.
learn how to reqad.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
read…oops
March 4th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I would love to see this snotty loser Gyrene fag get the shit kicked out of him. I would even love to be the one to do it.
What kind of loser would do something like this? Well I guess that’s a retorical anser since the loser was so proud of being a piece of shit that he wanted to be filmed.
Apparently the Marines must be recruiting and training cowards who need to get a kick off of throwing a little puppy.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:25 pm
April, people are just tired of this administration pushing their war-mongering and fear-mongering. So naturally when stories like this come along and people are already pissed off about this war, everyone seems to turn against all the soldiers and mark them as bad people. Now granted, many of them are psycho’s because that’s who the millitary is targeting towards to put in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, people who have no problem pulling that trigger on a mother and her baby. This doesn’t mean all millitary personel are bad, but many of them are psychopaths who like to play with guns and explosives and kill innocent people. That’s why you see so many people on here bashing the troops.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
April… you have stumbled upon a Constitutionalist web-site. Stick around for a while.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
APRIL
FOR THE RECORD
I have had a german shepherd since 3 days old. I’d kill anyone who harms a dog in front of me. i even spent 2 days once digging a 9 foot deep hole next to a well pipe and pulled a kitten out of it, long before that kid fell in the well yrs ago.
i’m not some snot nose little punk who grew up on prozac and death metal.
i was a fire fighter I actually went back into a house for a dog once
so learn to read before you shoot your ignorant little trap off woman.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Ohhh, the big bad marine…A.K.A. The pussy puppy killer…This man and anyone who knows this man is a panty wearing PUSSY.
Also, all you retards…the puppy WAS real. Also the pussy puppy killer is real.
wake up! This crap cannot be tolerated.
Let’s toss the marine puppy killer off a cliff…and his pussy friends. And no, I’m not afraid of the big bad pussy puppy killer…
David MacPhee
March 4th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Three related excerpts from military cadences. They all sing these, as well as the police cadets. You can find these listed on blogs from all branches of service and police fraternity sites as well.
1:
Throw some candy in the school yard
Watch the children gather round
Lock and load my GOLF Machine Gun
Mow those little f***ers down
2:
Napalm, son, is lots of fun,
Dropped in a bomb or shot from a gun,
It gets the hadjis when on the run,
Napalm sticks to kids.
Napalm sticks to kids.
(Although this cadence was created by Viet Nam Vets as a protest and it is satirical in nature with irreverent references to Dow Cemical in the full text, the Marines I ran with in formations untill 2005 would only use the chorus with the reference to how fun it is to watch kids burn to death covered in napalm.)
3:
Lil yellow birdie with a lil yellow bil
Landed on my window sill
Lured him in with a lil piece a bread
Then I crushed his lil f***ing head
Me oh my I am such a clutz
I missed his head and hit his nutz
(I always hated this one. While they were singing it I would think to myself, “What a bunch of pussies to think that makes them tough. Killing a bird? For the fun of it?” I got out.)
There are a lot of really inspirational old cadences from the before Viet Nam, but they don’t really sing those anymore. Here’s one.
Give me that good old Marine Corps Spirit
Give me that good old Marine Corps Spirit
Give me that good old Marine Corps Spirit
‘Cause it’s good enough for me.
It was good for Smedley Butler.
It was good for Dan Daley.
It was good for Chesty Puller.
And it’s good enough for me.
It was good in Belleau Wood. (WWI)
It was good in Okinawa. (WWII)
It was good at the Chosin Reservoir. (Korean War)
And it’s good enough for me.
And here’s another one.
Back in 1775
My Marine Corps came alive.
First their came the color blue.
Showed the world that we are true.
Next there came the color gold.
Showed the world that we are bold.
Then there came the color green.
Showed the world that we are mean.
The last Marine Corps color was red.
Showed the world all the blood we shed.
Singing Ohhh We Ohhh!
Hu! Hu!
Get Some!
Singing Ohhh We Ohhh!
Hu! Hu!
Get Some!
Then you would lead off into something tactical like the C-130 rolling down the strip cadence. But most of the time and increasingly, the majority preferred the sadistic cadences and the perverted cadences. Too bad so sad. Not the Marine Corps that one Okinawa. I hate to say it, but they will get there asses handed to them when they go up against a real foe like China or Russia or both at the same time. As you can tell from there new cadences, they are brainwashed pussies. No longer are they the real warriors who would swing across to enemy ships and sword fight on the enemy decks in an effort to capture the enemy Captain, while the very ship under their feet was taking cannon fire from their own Navy. Now that required bravery. Sorry to say, luring a yellow bird with a piece of bread so you can smash his head is not bravery, it is cowardly. And so is invading a tiny country like Iraq and calling it a battle. And torturing shepherds for fun is definately cowardly too. If they Marines from the 1700s were here today, they would skewer the scum what wears their uniforms now. Even the Marines from the 1940’s would do the same. Geez.
The sad fact is that real combat training has been replced with an emphasis that prioritises brain washing. These guys are easy to beat. That’s why they are always getting killed over there. THe plain fact is that they are just dumb. It wouldn’t be hard to beat them in a firefight if the opposition had the will to win. The fact is they are trained to take casualties because the military industrial complex profits from their deaths.
But the consensus of the average Marine today is that torture and killing is good. They are deliberately kept in a constant state of rage through ridiculous policies and living standards. And then they are given the green light to take that rage out on the victim group of the day (Hadji). That is the philosophy of the leadership of the Corps today. The Marines are cruel and they have some nice toys of destruction, but they are no longer warriors. That’s my experience from 8 years in. I remember thinking that my old street buddies could have taken them out. I couldn’t believe what a bunch of pussies most of them were. And evil. I was in from 1996 to 2004. I actually decided if it’s going where it seemed to be going based on the training we were receiving, I would rather fight against this “Neo” Marine Corps than with it. I don’t consider chumps who think its tough to kill birds to be particularly impressive or desireable as comrades. It’s actually embarrassing to be associated with people that think that way. lol. Thank God I’m not anymore. Sayonara Semper Fidelis.
One more thing.
My very senior supervisor at my last command told me he was getting out because they were going to begin chipping all the Marines in 2005. Just one more piece of evidence that illustrates that this is no longer the Marine Corps that has defended this nation for so long. It’s been usurped by something else. Something very sinister. If you civilians only knew. ;-((
March 4th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
QED Says:
March 4th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
How many devout Bible believing Christians would HARM the USA to HELP the state of ISRAEL ?
It’s totally apart from the theme of this thread, but individuals helping Israel makes great sense. Of course, to those who see some “zionist” conspiracy behind everything, nothing less than seeing Israel wiped off the map will suffice, but to the Christian, Israel and the Jews are major parts of God’s perfect plans. Which one are you?
March 4th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
DC Wright,
check this out when you have time.
http://video.google.com/videop.....8748081072
March 4th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Hello david Mortari, I live in Seattle also, when you come home We are going to find you!!!!!
We’ll take you to Deception Pass for a little fun, and you can figure the rest out.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I am reposting this just in case some of you missed it in the earlier posts from today.
It looks like he may have turned his phone off but this is his contact info anyway…..
Who is the scared little puppy now David Motari? Looks like we should throw you off a cliff and everyone who knows you for allowing this to go on…I hope you burn for this…
David Motari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191
(714) 330-0418
DAVID MOTARI FACTS:
1) He is now in Iraq, or Hawaii (in Kaneohe Bay)
2) He is the soldier in the video (see the pics of Iraq on his Bebo site for confirmation)
3) He married Jessica Thatcher in January 2008 (google: david motari heraldnet)
4) His wife moved to Hawaii on Feb 24, 2008 (google: david motari jessica myspace, choose “nathen – 20″, her friend)
5) He signed Ipetitions:
152 David Motari I am a Marine currently serving in Iraq. I would hate to see our team move out of Seattle…
Pentagon Switchboard
703-545-6700
Department of Defense
(703) 699-1800
(703) 607-4400
March 4th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
What a disgrace to the Marine Corps! I feel sorry for this kid. So young and so misled. Sad to say this, but the trend has been set and is getting worse. Soon, it will be their brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers they will be killing in the name of the NWO.
It’s in the works whether you believe it or not. Careful……if you do not agree with this soldier throwing this puppy off of a cliff- you could be considered anti-war and unpatriotic…a terrorist!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
To: simpleman1776: Great. Thanks for being kind to animals and saving an animal from a fire.
First, I’m not ignorant and I only responded to what I saw as being a cheap shot at dissing the military because ONE loser Marine did this. My father served in the Marine, my grandfather in the Navy, other grandfather in the Army and I have friends younger than myself who served in Iraq’s Desert Storm and the current Iraq war. NONE of them have witnessed this kind of sick behavior. I’m tired of you military hating people shooting off at the mouth like all military people are guilty just by association. I’ll be the first one to say that ANYBODY, military or not, who does this is punished severely. If I had my way, Michael Lowlife Vick would’ve been given 10 years, no early release. Many military men and women have died serving this country, whether you agree with it or not. One of my high school classmates, a longtime police officer serving in the Army Reserves, died by sniper fire in Afghanistan leaving behind three young kids and a wife. Have a little respect is all I ask. Is that too difficult?!?
March 4th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
SHOCK AND AWE…to Queen’s We Will Rock You! Can you imagine what this type of turd have done to thousands of innocent Iraqi, men, women and children since the illegal invasion began? He and many other US like him will rot in hell…they are the shame of America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
To April and all the other newbies who are WAKING UP or recently WOKE UP….
I am an Iraqi war veteran myself (honorably discharged) and am disgusted by this…..
Surprise surprise but this has been going on for years…I’ve seen it FIRSTHAND…it’s only because you’re a regular citizen that you haven’t recognized this but us who play both side of the fence know….
WAKE UP PEOPLE! We no longer live in a civilized nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Learn more at: http://www.sheeporsleep.blogspot.com
March 4th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
The comments I’m reading are just making me sick! So many of you keep blaming the MILITARY for this wacko’s behavior! Did you ever stop to think that SOCIOPATHIC ANIMAL TORTURERS DO THIS IN CHILDHOOD?!? Think: Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, etc. Get a f-ing clue. This is why people who think you anti-war fanatics are off your rockers and why Ron Paul never gained traction. As a conservative I’d have supported Ron Paul and would know if he wasn’t so anti-war, ISOLATIONIST thinking! I can’t stand John Amnesty McCain, but that’s sadly the best we have representing conservatives and why some liberal empty suited puke like Barack HUSSEIN Obama will win the WH. I hope he enjoys his four brief years…
March 4th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
When these psychopath soldiers (i’m talking about the psychopaths here) come back to the states we need find out who they are and do everything we can to keep them from joining the police forces (which they are most likely going to do) and letting them do this to us. We need to start kicking ass and taking names! And I really do mean, TAKING NAMES, so we know who these people are and so we can expose them for who they are. I’m not talking about the decent soldiers that do exist, i’m talking about the 30% or so of the psychos that want to put us in camps and want to torture us. These psychos are usually not that smart, they will end up using their real names like this guy. We CAN find out who they are and we CAN do something about this.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
To April: You should go back to PalTalk with the other fluoride babies. I was in the Marines ’till Dec 2004. This behavior didn’t start in Iraq. It’s the new norm. I’ll tell you the same I told those retards in Paltalk. I’ll laugh myself sick when your own goverment agents are raping you. And I’ll go hoarse telling people like you “Told you so.” Nuff said.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
April, we all know there are good people in the military. Brothers, sisters, fathers and even mothers. We are not coming down on all of them, I’m a Veteran myself, so was my father, and many of my uncle’s, in laws, cousins, etc. This site is above that, even though some of the posters on this thread are not.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Whoa April….
Calm down….It doesn’t seem like anyone is jumping on you in here.
However, I would like to challenge you to sign up for your branch of service (pick one), preferrably Army or Marines, and see FIRSTHAND if this DOESN’T OCCUR….
It does!
Without a doubt…that is just the state of our fellow soldiers and marines. Many of already have been chipped…oh snap!!!! You aren’t supposed to know about that yet!!!
Anyway, do your own research or become your own research FIRST prior to making statements via hearsay….just because you “know someone who served” is nothing like having doing it yourself.
Okay…no more “in-fighting”
9-11 was an inside job!
Ron Paul 2008!
Buy some gold…
Infowars.com
SheeporSleep.blogspot.com http://www.sheeporsleep.blogspot.com
March 4th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Man,f&*k the troops.
In my granddads day,they didnt want to be soldiers.They HAD to be.And they were tough too.Now all you get is a bunch of whiney ass VOULENTEERS who cry about doing the job they signed on to do.And guess what?You wont even hear a DI cussing those punk ass little boys and girls out during basic cause its not politically correct to do so.Mommy and Daddy doesnt want little GI Shmuck exposed to the brutal real world,so they made sure to make laws to make a kindler,gentler training experience for their little muddle headed kids.
When men are drafted against their will to fight serious,determined adversairies that are as technologically advanced and well orgainized,or even more so,as they are,like when my great great granddaddy was buried in Lyon,France for catching German machine gun bullets going over the wire for the British during WW1 or even the conscripts of Mother Russia who bled the ground red at Stalingrad putting the Nazi war machines’ 6th army out of commission during WW2-now those are heros,not these punk ass pussies putting the smack down on a 3rd world country full of illiterate militia.
The funny thing is,its a one sided contest in the favor of all these little wanna be “armies of one” and it STILL has managed to drag out this long.Goes to show what a determined guerilla campaign can do,even with 3rd world,undernourished and uneducated militia as the main source of combatants.
Quit crying GI Shmoe.I dont wanna hear another “support the troops” or whatever when your already sucking down our economy to play war games with people who really aren’t much competition.
Its like turning on the nightly news and watching NFL linebackers beat the shit out of wheelchair-bound cancer patients.And its funny to me every time one of the “cancer patients” kicks you in the nards or hits you in the throat.People will fight to the death to survive,and thats what REAL fighting is all about,get it?
I DOUBLE DARE you to pick a fight with the spetznas or any other fighting orgainization that doesnt coddle its men the way Americon does.
Till then,stop killing innocent little puppy dogs cause you know the truth is that you will be impotent and on viagra by the time you are 30 because all youve ever been and all you ever will be is a punk ass limp dick pussy.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
If you’re going to use the death of this puppy to preach your political/social agenda, then I’m not interested in what you have to say. If you’re here to claim that we shouldn’t be in Iraq, then I will not read your post. If you’re here to claim a PETA agenda, I won’t read it. If you’re here to decry the military and denounce the mindset of the Marines, I don’t buy it. If you’re here to denounce America, I won’t read your post. The fact is, this soldier killed this dog. There are many, many soldiers who find this incident sick and twisted and tragic and cruel. It is one incident. The outcry about it, regardless of what your agenda is, will probably get David Motari kicked out of the Marines. Rather than post on an obscure site like this one, why don’t you each write your Senator and Representatives in Congress? Easy to do. Go to congress.gov, find your state, and send an email to them. They do have people who read emails. Your words won’t be lost on a politician. Do it in memory of the puppy AND to get vengeance on this dickhead.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Killing little furry critters is what quite a few young fellers do when they’re 10, 11, 12 years old. Obviously lance is still immature. Does it warrant an article 15? Yea, it does..but what is up with all the histronics..bashing of leathernecks? Let’s keep the mutt murder in perspective..We’ve got oil companies using our military might to destroy populations so that we can steal their resources and drive our SUV’s..don’t have a problem with that? How about buying imports made using slave labor? 50 million without health insurance? Rigged voting? Illegal immigration. I’ve done my time serving.. and I am shouting out that our beloved USA has been shitbirded. When the communists come over here and start mowing down you soft-civi-liberal-pukes, that dead pup you queers are all worked up about and that immature lance corporal knucklehead won’t be any more anger emoting then Jethro drowning a deer tick.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Scott T. No one cares if you read our posts. Many others will.
But yes I do agree with you on the issue of writing to your congress person in office in your district or senator or governor. I have also found in the past that a written/typed letter in a stamped envelope is also a little more powerful than just an email.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Hundreds of thousands of troops are losing their humanity in Iraq and Afghanistan.
That is the price you pay when you are a part of the Antichrist Army.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
david.motari@usmc.mil
March 4th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Post 146, sure, everyone knows that killing stuff is cooool. Blame it on the Corps. All jarheads do it!
Dude you’re sick. Stop grandstanding and boring us with your jarhead lingo.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
So “Scott-T” leaves us a comment saying he is not interested in drawing any conclusions whatsoever or hearing anybody elses’ conclusions. Obviously that means one thing: he knows exactly the conclusions most people will make, he’s just so crooked and dishonest he will refuse to accept them.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
that guy is a complete asshole.
that poor puppy did nothing to him.
animals don’t have a voice as it is already.
just leave them alone.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Gunney, As I said before in a previous posting, if this were an article about a video of a human being, being tortured or killed, there would be far less outcry and far less comment pages this fast. People need to wake up and see that this is happening to PEOPLE all over the world not just animals. And yes, a life is a life, but everyone has become desensitized to this kind of thing happening to another person. That is why this story is important because we can point that out as much as possible and others also need to comment their thoughts on this matter (The desensitization that is, not just about the puppy). Stop drinking the flouride and wake up people. If we’re going to get as mad as this about soldiers doing this to an animal we need to get just as outraged as when soldiers do this kind of thing to us on the streets of our towns.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
To all you people who think being in the service of the Americon Empire is a honorable and tough task-
The militia needs you here!
Blindly following bad leadership into illegal wars is not patriotic-ITS A WAR CRIME!!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Wait till the troops come home after raping Iraq and Afghanistan.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
J: You got it buddy. Right on.
Since when is joining a military outfit honorable? That’s just more brainwashing. Swearing allegience to what? Agreeing to kill when they tell you to kill, that’s what it is.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Iraqis and Afghanis lost their lives but the Troops lost their humanity.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
They’ll start their raping right here, what a great deal for them.
Straight into police work, yeaaaa!
March 4th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
thats right wef,and this is why the second amendment is the one I hold so dear,”A well regulated militia,being necissary to the security of the free state,the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”
what this intends,is that the governement not have the power to orgainize a military in order to preserve the security of the free state,but that the people do,thru militia,with the right to bear their privatly owned arms.
So when the need arises,the people would make a natural decision to fight-rather than have a group of politicians with this decision and an orgainized group of their own to blindly order into battle just like the British we fought for this right.
The Constitution was intended to deprive the governement of this utility in order to prevent this sort of abuse.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Sorry for my spelling there is a tornado watch here
March 4th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
He is an idiot. Unfortunately so are most of you. Let’s not hate our soldiers because of one idiot! This country has plenty of idiots! That is why so much of the world hates our country. I am an American but I don’t think I am the target of their hate. I hope not anyway.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
They’ve been doing the rapng here for a long time. But it will get worse.
http://timesunion.com/AspStori.....yID=668448
It was early evening and already dark when the patrol car’s emergency lights flashed in the rearview mirror of Lisa Shutter’s Mitsubishi sedan on Quail Street, just off Central Avenue.
Police records show the officers called out a “Signal 38″ to alert a dispatcher they were onto something suspicious and about to pull someone over. They would later write in a report that they had pulled her over for “failure to signal,” although no ticket was issued, according to police records shared with the Times Union.
The actions of police in the minutes that followed would end in controversy rather than with an arrest. They would also leave Shutter, a 28-year-old single mother from Ravena, shaken and angry after one of the officers allegedly inserted his finger into Shutter’s vagina on a public street during an apparent search for drugs.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
But I love how when you put this in these blind peoples faces,they start screaming about libral queers and commies and stuff….I belive it was Joseph Stalins belief that to invade America,with all our privately owned weapons,would be not only foolish,but prove to be impossable.
Long live the true security of america-our 2nd amendment.
Now what liberal fag would say that?
March 4th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
This country will HATE the troops even more if they abuse more people while overseas in Iraq and Afghanistan.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
I dont hate american soldiers-
I have a long line of service in my family,but the truth is the truth,I pity you all for allowing yourselves to be manipulated so blatantly.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
that’s terrible about the puppy and all, but the world is overcrowded with dogs… meanwhile, Muslims are being exterminated to the brink of extinction and just like the puppy, they have done no wrong. Bush threw Iraq off a cliff when he decided to invade, and he laughed all the way to the bank as Iraq plummeted to the bottom screaming.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
and I belive it is my job to point out that it is the militia,not a standing army,that is the constitutionally provided for and legal method of preserving our security.
Its the truth
a fact
deal with it
March 4th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
I would like to see how David would feel if he were the puppy he threw. A puppy dog is totally harmless and can only trust us. And this is what we do in return? This is our “military might”? David Motari, good luck in your next posting. We can only hope that someone will show you much more compassion than you’ve shown that little living being. The puppy was whimpering in your grip.. didn’t you hear?
March 4th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
We hated the Nazis for what they did in Germany. We will hate our own soldiers for what they are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.
They are representing US, and we are not MONSTERS.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
I cant believe they threw away a free lunch!
March 4th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
It was just a puppy.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
right on, jennifer… i want so bad to personally tell the rest of the world “IT WASN’T ME! IT WAS THOSE PSYCHOS IN WEST VIRGINIA!”
March 4th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
If we learn anything from the past 8 years-
It should be that a standing “military industrial complex” is not only unconstitutional,but will lead us to the path of tyranny.
That allowing a leader to ignore the Supreme laws of the Constitution is not only un-American,its also dangerous to our standing as a becon of freedom to the world.
That allowing the media and our leadership to whip us into a frenzy of war because of evils we have suffered makes us look like idiotic fools.
That it is patriotic to disagree with bad leaders.
That we should not allow our economy to become so bad as to force high school graduates into government service.
That we must,as a nation,restore the constitutional law that not only protects us from overbearing government,but from all of the above.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
That guy is a piece of shit, not even worth the air that he breaths.
March 4th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
David Motari, “I’m a wanna-be-tough-guy so I throw defenseless little puppies off of cliffs. ”
Dickhead. I hope that his fellow marines kick his ass for embarrassing the marines.
What a f’ckin loser.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
we know this guy’s name and where he lives, so why don’t we pay him a visit sometime and teach him the true meaning of sadism?
March 4th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
this is very sick, anyone who gets pleasure out of a living creatures pain human or animal is a demented person. even if the puppy was dead or fake before it was thrown from the cliff it still takes a creep to enjoy playing with a dead body. i respect our troops for spending so much time away from their families and risking their lifes for a war that many don’t support but i can’t respect anyone who treats animals or people with such disrespect. if you’re representing your country then don’t shame your country and yourself by sick acts of cruelty. many countries already see us a jackasses so let’s not give them any more reason to. and anyways this is no way to treat the animal that we call mans best friend.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
you miserable piece of weak shit… you disgrace all that is good and honest. black is your soul and future. i piss on you you psychopathic serial killer protoge… you will never have the right to return to society
March 4th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
This is what my tax dollars are paying for? Alive or not, the joke just isnt funny. If the puppies alive he better be one bad ass marine. Hope to meet this man one day and show him how much I liked his little funny. Thats right, I care more for the dog than this human. If thats what he is?
March 4th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
I spoke to David Motari’s mother on her cell phone this morning, as well as a few friends. I saw the video a few days ago before it went viral and was able to access quite a lot of his personal information before it got censored or taken down. The people around him are shocked and very upset to say the least. Apparently, he lost a brother in a car accident four years ago – they told me he was a good Christian (surprised?). His mother is devastated – she was real proud of him before – hanging pictures all around her desk at the reality office. You got to feel bad for her – knowing you spawned a sick twisted degenerate. I can hear the disappointment in her voice when I spoke to her.
The bottom line – who knows what makes a person like this into the evil scum bag that he is today. All we can do is push the powers at be to ensure that he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This puppy was a defenseless creature that was probably happy to even have human contact. Some peole are saying who cares – what about the humans dying!!! Well I’m sure if he did the same thing to a human baby it would get even more attention. It is true that we have come to expect atrocities in war, but this was NOT an act of war. This was just sadistic cruelty all for a little chuckle. This is who represents us abroad. And, if one does the research they will find more of this kind of reprehensible behavior. Man those Middle Easterners are sick for hating us.
I for one will do all I can to make this scum-bag pay for his actions. This is not just about a defenseless puppy. This about the evil people of this world versus the good natured, the selfish and insensitive versus the caring. The old ways versus the new age. It’s about people of want to live in peace versus people who want to make others suffer with no remorse. There is enough hardships in life to deal with without David Motari and his kind continuing to make life harder for all the rest of us. People need to write the military, your congressmen, the media, and who ever can make a difference. Nothing will change until we make it happen.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I think this is all a set-up, this video was designed by the elites to get the american people to turned against the troops and the troops against the american people.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Think guys and gals, SUPPORT THE TROOPS, why, the ELITES will support them, if we dont…….
When the elites support them, the troops will turned on the american people,why, they felt betrayed by the american people……..
Remember, no matter what, there are troops in the armed forces working for the NEW WORLD ORDER……so SUPPORT THE TROOPS at all COSTS………………
March 4th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
ALL The troops are SCUM. I hate them ALL. Period.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
He needs to die. Anybody interested in taking a collection to pay someone to throw him off a cliff?
March 4th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
As a former Marine who served in Pakistan and El Salvador, you David Motari are a disgrace to the Marine Corps and to the United States. I hope someone tracks you down and does the exact same thing to you that you did to that poor puppy. You have given the every service man and woman a black eye with your senseless act of foolishness. I have always supported our troops serving overseas, but now I can no longer support you, the Marines, nor this senseless war any longer. I hope and pray that someone finds your sorry ass. You are lucky the Marines are hiding you. But someday you will be found because you cannot hide forever. You will be forever looking over your shoulder.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
It Looks like that human garbage is runniung the US Military and human garbage is the Military. What your CRIMINAL Government ENCOURAGES the crimes your government committs encouraging abuse of innocent MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN, BABIES and ANIMALS. CONDONING CRUELLTY, TORTURE, MURDER, STEALING, MUTILATION, AND RAPE .
AMERICANS WILL BE JUDGED IN HISTORY ALONG SIDE OTHER GOVERNMENTS WHO CONDONES CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.
“IS THIS WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR SHAME ON YOU ALL!”
March 4th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Emotionally castrated Neo-Cons are doing everything in their power to
downplay shameful scenes of U.S. Marines throwing a puppy off a cliff in
Iraq, while others are openly and sickeningly lamenting the fact that the
poor victim was just a puppy and not an Iraqi baby.
Hard to imagine a more graphic example of the degenerate mentality of some
of those in the military. Ask yourself if these are really the people you
can expect to help you in an “emergency”.
Since this video has come out, there have been reports of numerous other
videos showing similar, or worse. So you have to ask, how do you train a
military force to “liberate and assist a people” and end up with behaviour
that resembles things Jeffrey Dahmer did before he decided to become a
serial killer and cannibal. So what’s all this BS on the TV about “marine
leadership”? There were at least two others there that did nothing, so this
is not just a bad seed we are talking about – every group has those – no,
this was a group project… they had to find the dog, take it to a cliff,
and gather their camera to film their intentions… it was premeditated.
These same soldiers, who now work for the police, are of course the ones we
are seeing with ever increasing frequency beating up or tasering young
children, or pregnant women, or people exercising their free speech, etc….
The terrorists have defeated the US by destroying them from within, through
lies and paranoia they have tossed out the principles which allowed them to
grow and prosper… and now our wonderful Tory/Liberal union of communist
dictators want them to finish off our country. No doubt this will happen the
next time all the RCMP bomb sniffing dogs just happen to be away on a
“training exercise” and we have an “emergency” that, but for a lack of
funding and too much individual freedom, would have been stopped… All
sharp objects, negative opinions against government, and your private
firearms will of course have to be collected in the interests of safety.
Yeah, sure…. We’ve seen this movie before. Sure the actors are different,
but its the same script.
March 4th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Fuck ill do it for free, throw that bitch of a cliff. Its real puppy, you can tell by his buddy saying aw thats mean, why would he say thats mean if it was a toy dog or dead. And who would cover up something that is so horrible. Stupid neocons EVIL
March 4th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Im sick of the majority of the comments……people are quick to judged……People keep your emotions in check……wars mess up many lives………..David were a ok guy before the war, now he is a monster……why is he a monster? Think and figure out why, before passing quick judgments.
Why I dont judge him, because I been around people that were ok guys before the war, but been messed up since, seeing their fellow buddies get blown to pieces and having nightmares, or wonder why they still alive or suppose to be dead…..
Yeah David threw a puppy over the cliff, but he is in a endless war, he is in hell fighting the flames. ARE YOU IN THE SAME SITUATION HIS IN? if not, SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I GOT FRIENDS SERVING IN THE ARMED FORCES, RISKING THEIR LIVES FOR U SCUMBAGS!!!!
Hey David, if you read this, keep your head up higher, just dont killed anymore dogs, kill a deer instead, since hunters in the great USA takes pleasure in killing deers, bears, and other wildlife games………u see David, not everyone against u…….
March 4th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
I am going to put my 100 lb German Shepard on the motherfucker see how he handles getting his arms chewed off and handed to him. Mark my words, he is dead.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Yea, an endless war in shame, If you had a dog you would understand, how much it hurts just seeing it cry untill death over that cliff. Infact i’m looking at my dog and I dun want it to be throwing off a cliff by a marine, I would seriously hurt him if he did that. Yes The armed forcres Risking thier lives but for what The consitution no, For bush warcrimes against Iraqi civillians.
and Black gold.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Hey ROB,
Oh, lets get to the root of the problem, what are they teaching these kids….
Whose fault, the elders, the parents,the drill sergents, hey, dont blame the kids, they are only doing what they were taught.
Hey Rob, Maybe we need you back in the marines and clean house.
And thanks Rob for saying ure a marine, and u have the right to judge him, but others who never been in the armed forces should shut the hell up!!!!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Amerikkka is messed up. Hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi children and not a peep, not a sound, nothing. A puppy is assassinated and all of a sudden it’s electric chair time.
The government carries out 9/11 and it’s like, yeah well whatever…
MESSED UP…
btw I don’t agree with killing puppies, or animals or anything else, I’m also a vegetarian.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
And just because im homosexual does NOT give any of you the right to post that.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Make a difference. Sign the petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com.....g-soldiers
March 4th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM NOT GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Oh I see, someones playing games with the users names, im 3000 for once…..
March 4th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Support the puppies…. torture and kill a Marine
March 4th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
Sadly, some humans do not feel compassion for whom we share the Earth with. God bless animals and children who can not speak for themselves.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Looks like the Marines are indeed investigating. They have his name and have seen the video and explain they do NOT tolerate such behavior:
http://www.armytimes.com/news/.....eo_030308/
I think if this is real, he should be elegible for the Death penalty after being tried in a court of law. But that’s just me.
But before we all rush to judgement, what if he has a really SICK sense of humor and it was a stuffed animal (he could have faked some of the head movements with his fingers)?
I hope they fry this person if that was a real dog.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
a puppy defenseless, wihtout a voice, being killed by this psycho is not pitty news. We must seriously go after this MF, and make sure he is punished by the Army.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
David… I want you to come over to my front door so I can stomp your marine ass right into the sewage drain in the street! That’s where piece of $h!t’s like you belong you pussy! You do not even deserve to get anything from the miltary but maybe from the enemy side like a bullet through your head. What a bunch of pussy ass BS!!
March 4th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
I don’t care if you hurt people, but don’t hurt puppies.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
this dude is a hillbilly…lol some “hero”
i hope it’s not a real pup
March 4th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
This piece of shit and his family needs to be dealt with extreme prejudice. Any procreation by this gene pool must be eradicated.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Wow, I hope the scum-bag gets himself killed in Iraq.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
http://profile.myspace.com/ind.....=216791690
Someone has a myspace page dedicated to him.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Wow this guy is a serious piece of shit, i hope some fucking terrorist kills this son of a bitch!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
What the hell, people only give a rip when a soldier kills an animal??? No one cares about killing PEOPLE?
March 4th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
What this person did was appauling. However this video, the abuse of a puppy, generates a tremendous outcry of outrage. What about all the innocent people who have been raped, tortured, and murdered all in the name of a “War On Terror?”
This type of behavior shows what big business and public service have been trying to recruit. Being a retired L.E.O., I have seen and can remember how things used to be. How the hiring process used to want the truly best and brightest. Now with all their pschyobabble tests, they disqualify potential good people, to hire those who are questionable. Those who will follow orders blindly, be a team player, and not go against the system when a superior tells them that this is how things are.
I see the writing on the wall, I see how the people in public service have degenerated to the backstabbing, tell all, team players that upper management loves so dear. I do not fear supposed terrorists as much as I fear my own government, police forces, and Homeland security.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
All you snide people dissing the puppy abuse, get real. It’s brutality. Check Alex’s videos showing a number of these bastard’s evil ways.
Then buy or go to the library and check out Jeremy Scahill’s book about Blackwater. Remember Eric Prince is a devout “Christian.”
Then find Truth Will Set You Free for some seriously demonic behavior thanks to our troops.
I’d rather take a ‘friendly’ fire bullet in the back than use people for target practice. They deserve HELL.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
If there is a God, I am confident he will want to speak to this piece of shit soon, really soon.
It’s gonna be HOT down there!
March 4th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
To those of you who are leaving comments about “it’s only a puppy. what about the people?” LEARN TO SURF THE FREAKIN WEB! This PAGE was about the puppy incident.
To post here about anything other than this incident or those involved, tells the rest of us a few things about you. First, you have an attention span a gnat would be proud of. Second, growing up you must have had a series of REALLY bad experiences with puppies not to feel ANY compassion for a DEFENSELESS animal.
You want us to rant and rave about the human suffering and loss, then get some videos up showing the terrible horrors that are being perpetrated over there. You know, I know, hell we ALL know terrible things are happening there. But you know, I’m betting the military won’t let so easily slip out the video of that guy throwing the puppy’s master off the cliff.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
I got good news for you, there is a God. Jesus Christ is God and the Bible is his Book.
Yes, it is a bad thing this idiot did to this dog, and I’m sure he has more sin than the heartless thing he did to the animal. God punishes those who break his commandments. That is everyone. In God’s eyes none of us are any better than this cruel puppy killer. That is why he says that except ye repent, ye shall also likewise perish. We all have to turn from our sinful lives and live for the Lord Jesus Christ to escape God punishment of Hell fire.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
I believe we just found a cell mate for Michael Vick.
March 4th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
pcmiller2000, you are a MORON. Learn our language first, then your opinion MIGHT have more merit. (Ex: “David were a OK Guy…” “….just dont killed anymore dogs…”) 2nd if you can justify this animal torture and cold blooded murder of a defenceless innocent “PUPPY”, you are just as gone as this creep. We all know people in service. Everyone I know is disgusted by this, and believe he should be punished.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Nice follow up to cliff toss could be hack one hind leg off cute scamp and document limp around while bleeding out. Place pup in cleaning fluid..(they run around yelping for a good 10 minutes. One of my fav)..Splatter the brains all over everyone standing around with a well placed rifle butt stroke. Be creative out there folks..let’s show the boys in green that they ain’t got shit on us in the creativity department.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Picture this, if you believe this isn’t such a bad act. An Iraqi soldier (or any other Muslim soldier or man) holds a puppy up to a camera, flings it over a cliff, and laughs about it. Picture your feelings. I would be willing to bet a million bucks you suddenly find it a deplorable act, which just “shows” how “evil” the Iraqis (or Muslims) are. And you would be right….and we are right to deplore the same action from THIS person. The act is evil no matter who does it…
March 4th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
As someone else said this scum’s actions are just the tip of the iceburg of the criminality going on over there. But you can expect nothing else because the US government is run by criminals. This scum is the poster boy for a criminal government’s atrocities. He put a cute little puppy face on our rulers atrocities.
March 4th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
For those of you who wonder if the puppy was real: I have been told first hand by an Iraqi veteran of the use of mortars to utterly blow apart camels to cure boredom, and the use of MRE heaters to burn little children’s mouths who are begging for food. So, trust me. Even if this video was fake (no reason at all to think that btw), there are many actions every day that are just as bad and much worse taking place by our beloved soldiers. I want to say something to everyone who is in active duty. It is not “awesome” when you shoot a hostile. It is not time to hoot and holler when a missile strike destroys a mosque. Even many of the people fighting back in the streets don’t deserve what they are getting, just as you don’t deserve to be put in this futile and dangerous position. Have some guts, live and if need be die by principal. Don’t leave your humanity while supposedly fighting for it.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
“First to fight for right and freedom, and to keep our honor clean…..”
I am a Marine from the “old corps” and I fully understand that the main purpose of combat Marines is not to function as role models; we are soldiers, not ambassadors. We kill people and break things, and we are proud when we do these things well. However, in all we do, we live by a creed that unites us in camaraderie and set us apart from our enemies. Our motto: Death Before Dishonor.
There is no dishonor in killing an enemy combatant; that is our job, that is our sworn duty. However, there is only disgrace in shooting an enemy who has surrendered, or in killing an unarmed civilian, or in throwing a puppy off a cliff. Only someone totally devoid of principle would take life unnecessarily – whether that life be human or animal – and then laugh about it. I am a Marine, David Motari is not. May he soon be stripped of the title of United States Marine, and be forever known instead as “the puppy killer.”
March 4th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Put him in the Brig and play this song 24 hours a day.
How much is that doggie in the window? (Arf! Arf!)
The one with the waggily tail?
How much is that doggie in the window? (Arf! Arf!)
I do hope that doggie’s for sale
I must take a trip to California,
And leave my poor sweetheart alone
If he has a dog he won’t be lonesome,
And the doggie will have a good home.
How much is that doggie in the window? (Arf! Arf!)
The one with the waggily tail?
How much is that doggie in the window? (Arf! Arf!)
I do hope that doggie’s for sale
I read in the papers there are robbers (Rowlf! Rowlf!)
[these lyrics are found on http://www.songlyrics.com
With flashlights that shine in the dark
My love needs a doggie to protect him,
And scare them away with one bark!
I don’t want a bunny or a kitty,
I don’t want a parrot that talks,
I don’t want a bowl of little fishes
He can’t take a goldfish for a walk!
How much is that doggie in the window? (Arf! Arf!)
The one with the waggily tail?
How much is that doggie in the window? (Arf! Arf!)
I do hope that doggie’s for sale
March 4th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
What’s the matter with this guy-his Mama didn’t breast feed him or did his Daddy take long baths with him? He is in the same company as a child molester and hopefully he will get as good as he gives. He is no representative of my America! Only God can save him from PETA now.
GO RON PAUL
LONG LIVE ALEX JONES
March 4th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
“The Puppy Killer” is sick, and needs help. The military will abandon him, yet are responsible for training him to be a cold blooded killer. The military is just as responsible for this sick evil man as Satan is.
March 4th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Killing a puppy is a deplorable act, to say the least. And to make matters worse, this guy did it for fun. Let me ask everyone this question: what i the difference between throwing a innocent puppy off a cliff, for sport/fun, and killing an innocent, defenseless deer/elf/etc for mere sport???? I’m against the senseless slaughter of all animals.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
I am sure that many of the posters here have gone hunting more than a few times. What’s the difference between killing an innocent defenseless puppy and killing an innocent defenseless deer? Both cases were for sport or fun. Hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 4th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
I’ve seen many of the dog/puppy killing videos, and yes, they are deplorable. The thing I don’t understand is how this story gets featured on the MSM but when innocent Iraqis die it gets swept under the Persian rug? Shouldn’t dead civilians take precedent over dogs? I guess not. I’m almost ashamed to be an American when our thugs invade other countries and kill everything they can. Whether it’d be dogs, cats, plants, kids, women…it doesn’t matter. We kill everything in the name of a sham democracy. No wonder everyone hates us.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I can’t remember the last time I hunted an “elf”…elk maybe…nah, never hunted. The fact that you’re trying to make excuses for Motari is sad in itself. I’m not a big fan of hunting unless it’s for food, but there’s a huge difference in the fact that I don’t remember any hunters chucking deer and elk off of cliffs. That and the fact that I’m sure a lot of animals that are hunted could take a piece of the hunter with them if they weren’t careful. What’s the puppy going to do to the big man?
You say you’re against the slaughter of all animals…so I assume that you’re a vegetarian. That’s one hell of a way to push your views. Assume a lot of posters have hunted and call them hypocrites. Wow…just wow.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
These men & women have been sent into HELL, had bombs going off around them, been shot at & forced to kill in self defense & you expect them to act normal? I cannot believe that anyone would complain about an animal that would have probably ended up on a starving Iraqi dinner table anyway! ! ! This is pure insanity, to cry over an animal after the inhumane treatment of our soldiers who were captured, tortured, & beheaded by the Iraqi’. This is just like the nut cases who will cry over a spotted owl or a whale & have no problem with having an abortion & killing their own babies just because a child doesn’t fit in their lifestyles. Until you have walked through the HELL that these men & women have gone through, then SHUT the HELL UP!!!! If this happened here in America, I would be sickened by this kind of animal abuse, but I cannot begin to know what kind of mental abuse that this soldier has been forced to endure. I want to personally thank everyone who has gone over to Iraq for being honorable, strong, & courageous. Stop being a arm chair general, & stop finding fault with what happens during war.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
I hope I am not the only one to ask this question. What about people?
Yes it is bad to kill a puppy, no question about it. But again what about the indiscriminate torture and killing of human beings in Iraq and around the world that is going on? Can any of us feel anything anymore without a poor puppy to feel bad about? Focus on this event, but all remember questions about who, what, where, why, and how we have lost our way? Is there anything redeeming about this one event.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
I am not supporting this psychopath puppy killer when I say that the senseless murder of all animals is deplorable. Look, I have to remain consistent. I see no difference between deer, for instance, and puppies. I love animals and hunting for sport is just as bad as throwing a puppy off a cliff. Killing is killing.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
What makes this puppies life more valuable than a poor, defenseless deer?
March 4th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
This one sick boy!,But then again the army gets what it pays for,what do u expect from months of brain washing and mind control – a legion of Brainless,emotionless,sick minded warbots and born again puppy killers.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
The fate of this puppy brings into glaring focus everything that a soldier should not be. Also, dogs are such faithful creatures. They have been known to save people’s lives, they don’t care if a person is rich, poor, ugly, or whatever, they are your friend, no matter what. Canines strongly represent friendship and trust. Few things are as painful as broken friendships and broken trust. The global elite are masters of exactly that: knifing everyone in the back and parasitically living off nations for their own gain. Considering us to be ‘goyim’, ‘animals’ and ‘dogs’.
We have been like that trusting puppy! Accepting everything dished out to us. The lies and deceptions of ‘modern’ medicine, the flueride, the drugs, the tv, the abortions, the feminist movement, the wars that should never have happened etc, etc. And all the time the manipulators, the handful of bankers and supra elitists have laughed and sneared, knowing full well that our end, if they get their way, is for us to be tossed off the cliffs of life by the millions.
It’s horrific enough what they are doing to the people over there, all in the name of oil. But there is also something uncannily powerful about this event, a moment in time, a mere speck on the number line of the world’s existance, yet it has such a powerful message. Soldiers are SUPPOSED to be there to defend, protect, help the innocent, etc. WHAT A JOKE. Maybe that poor hapless creature will be the cause of increased protesting against the inhumane goings on in Iraq, and hopefully the end of this war.
*** SUGGESTION: someone should replace the Corporal’s face with the soul-less visage of HENRY KISSINGER, and the puppy superimposed with a US army helmet and little uniform. Kissinger would only have one thing to say at that point “You are nuttink but a dumb, stupid animal…”***
God help us.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Were all a bunch of murderers and were gonna go to hell
March 4th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
Ray…there’s still a huge difference between a hunter killing an animal and a soldier doing it. Our soldiers are supposed to represent and defend everything this country stands for. When a nutjob like this pulls a stunt and it’s all over the web…he makes his fellow soldiers look bad by association.
Most hunting seasons are set to keep animal populations in check. Like I said…I’m not a hunter. Not my thing. Now unless Iraq has some odd overpopulation of puppies I don’t know about…
March 4th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
“Every man is his own hell.” ~ H. L. Mencken
http://911essentials.com
March 4th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Last week, the public were fed our lordship and “god” Prince Harry (widow67) talking to Sky News in Afghanistan, where he made a point of saying on camera, “Sometimes you need to send a dog to kill a dog”. This week, instead of our lordship and fratboy royal god who loves dressing up in a nazi uniform, we have psychopaths in U.S. Marine Corps uniforms killing a tied-up little dog on video. Coincidence? You decide. And don’t forget what “DOG” spells backwards. The devil-worshippers in their little secret societies in and behind the mainstream media LOVE their sick little jokes, games and symbology. Thanks for reporting on these stories and exposing these criminals against humanity. Keep up the good work and Good WILL prevail over Evil my friends.
March 4th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
I dont want anything to die … in my life I have lost a lot and I KNOW the importance of a singular life. I couldnt kill a bug and I just dont understand how others dont realize that everything else feels fear. I am so tired of reading “its just a dog” THATS CRAP! It was innocent and it had its own life to live … it could have been a great pet … it was probably sweet and loving and would have made a great friend to someone. Its so sad that the quality of life an animal gets to live is soley based on how good a human is willing to treat it. I would have loved that dog.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:11 am
THIS DUDE IS A PICE OF SHIT. MY AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS GOING TO WORK TO EMPLOY THIS STUPID SON OF A BITCH CRAP? NOT FOR NUTTIN I FUCKING HATE ANIMAL KILLERS. I SUPPORT AMERICAN TROOPS AND ALL BUT I WOULDNT GIVE A FUCK IF THIS MUTHERFUCKER CAUGHT A BULLET FROM AN IRAKI CITIZEN. FUCK HIM AND FUCK ALL THE REST FOR THIS UNCONSCIONABLE ACT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS. BUT I TELL U WAT U PUNKASS WHITEBOY AND I HOPE U READING THIS SHIT. U EVER COME TO BROOKLYN AND PULL SOME SHIT LIKE THAT U GONNA GET THE WORST FUCKING BEATDOWN U HAVE EVER HAD. NUCH SAID….
FUCK THAT SOLDIER
BETTER HOPE U CATCH A IRAKI BULLET BEFORE U SET SAIL BACK TO AMERICA PUNK
WAT DA FUCK HAS HAPPENED TO THIS FUCKING COUNTRY? IM ASHAMED TO BE CALLED AN AMERICAN. THIS IS NOT WAT I REPRESENT. SO IF U PEOPLE THINK IM BEING A LITTLE INSULTIVE, FUCK U TOO. I LOVE AL ANIMALS AND ANY PERSON WHO HARMS AND ANIMAL FOR PURE FUN SHOULD BE FUCKING HANGED AT THE PUBLIC SQUARE JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS. WE DONT NEED CRAP LIKE THIS IN ANY SOCIETY. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM TRY THAT SHIT WITH MY PIT BULL. I DARE YA. U NEED TO BE SMACKED HARD FOR THAT STUNT. I HOPE GOD PUNISHES THE HELL OUT OF YOUR ASS FOR THAT…..
PEACE OUT FELLOW PATRIOTS
HANG THE ANIMAL KILLERS
March 5th, 2008 at 12:12 am
Theres a difference between hunting and killing for fun. Food is necessary, almost every species hunts. Any hunter knows you are not killing your quarry for fun, this is a need, to put food on a table. The native americans were one with the spirits of the animals they hunted, offering them respect, even though they were game. That is why we say a blessing at the table, for the sacrifice. Someone who’d abuse a small animal for fun, or even “pretend to” is not a hunter, not a warrior, but a coward obsessed with oppressing the helpless, instead of being a protector.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:26 am
My cousin was killed in Iraq “Navy Petty Officer 2nd Class Michael C. Anderson”
And by this madman killing a dog and thinking it is cool is crazy. He is a representative of all men and woman set to war. This madman being in that uniform is an embarrassment to our country and to me personally. I know that I am thankful for all the men and woman who fight and shed there blood in the name of freedom. Iraq is not a playground, it is not summer camp and this behavior is just not excitable anytime.
I personally don’t like the fact that my family or any of our nation’s blood had to be spilled in that place. Our family members are in a war for reasons that have been proven to be complete fabrication. Please condemn the war criminals like this bum, but scream louder and harder to bring home what is left of our families and America.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:27 am
This absolutely makes me fucking SICK. What a fucking loser of a boy, because he sure as fuck is not a MAN. Men do not do shit like that. He must have sadly lost his humanity because of this war, but the seed of careless selfishness must have already been there, otherwise it wouldn’t have grown to permit his feeble mind to think of doing such a thing to any living helpless sentient being. He will experience exactly what he forced that pup to experience when he is before his spirit elders when he dies and he will be made to experience every hurt that he ever inflicted unjustly on ANY living creature.
fucking SICK.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:36 am
What I don’t get–
Assuming it’s a real video- why do people get all freaked out and pissed over this stuff but are able to stay in total denial about the same sorts of atrocities being committed against actual HUMAN BEINGS?
It is not an indictment against the troops as a whole to acknowledge that this kind of shit goes on in a war which was ill-conceived and is clearly completely out of control, and especially where there is no accountability for the mercinaries running around doing god-knows-what…
I mean we’ve seen the videos of the guys shooting randomly at civilians in the trucks and yet radio talk show losers like Michael “Savage” act as apologists for this kind of behavior, or deny it exists.
And yet the evidence is everywhere.
http://digg.com/pets_animals/D.....PPY_KILLER
War makes normal people into psychotic killers. We will be living with the consequences of this bullshit war for generations. And paying for it as well.
B
March 5th, 2008 at 2:24 am
David Motari, you are a dis-honor to your Family name, your Code of Military Justice, Code of Ethics and the Code of the US Military Force. You are NOT a soldier, but a weakling. You’re still immature, a child-minded boy, and you are not even worthy to have the mantle of “MAN”. You’ve spent way too much time playing tactical video games like Halo, Splinter Cell, WoW, and Assassins Creed, including DOOM. You shame me.
You say you’re afraid of NOTHING. You just contradicted yourself. You are afraid. You have a fear. That is the reason you carry a weapon for your defence. You even fear your comrads and those that are within your scouting area. You have a fear, and if you do not turn aside from what you have done and will do in the next 14 days, your fear will manifest and eat you alive.
You too will be coming home in a casket to your Family and siblings. (sigh!)
March 5th, 2008 at 2:39 am
Amen BORED!!!!!
March 5th, 2008 at 2:52 am
Hey motohead,
no need for name calling…..by the way motohead, you need to go to booth camp and be placed on the battlefield for a year or two, if u didnt fall to it, then u can judge him, if not, then SHUT THE HELL UP YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 5th, 2008 at 2:56 am
the military is filled with borderline psychos and just plain jerks. the real problem here is a weak-willed, pathetic leadership within the military.
March 5th, 2008 at 3:01 am
This country is full of dog lovers, yet they are ok for a million women to killed their babies!!!!!
To HELL with this country, its now CURSED!!!!!!!!!!!!
All those that want to come to the GREAT USA, WARNING!!!!, DO NOT COME TO THE USA!!!!, ITS BAD FOR YOUR SOUL!!!!!!!!
Oh, are dogs unclean animals?
March 5th, 2008 at 3:05 am
haha looks like he’s gotten what he deserves poor bastard
March 5th, 2008 at 4:58 am
THIS bitch raised That piece of shit:
Ranaye E Motari
Century 21 North Homes-Monroe
Monroe, WA 98272
Contact Information
Phone: (360) 794-0337
March 5th, 2008 at 5:29 am
I cannot believe this asshole. Did he truly feel NOTHING when he did that? If he didn’t feel the sharp prick of conscience at the moment he did that, then he’s truly a brainwashed robot………NOT a human being. There’s a special spot in hell for people like this scumbag. And the worst part is, even though he’s in Iraq, he’s not fighting a war. He’s training to do that to US!! Today it’s a puppy, tomorrow it’s door to door to do that very same thing to American civilians. Honor has been missing from the American military since it was hijacked by the Illuminati. I realize this forum is for the poor puppy, but truly, that “Marine” has NEVER been put up against legitimate enemy combatants (despite being in Irag), and he never will be. That he’s glowing with radioactivity from the depleted uranium rounds he fires from his own M-16 isn’t good enough for me. I’d love a shot at this asshole. Near a cliff….
March 5th, 2008 at 5:38 am
1 Corinthians 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profits me nothing.
He has definitely dishonoured God, his country, soldiers and his mother and father.
His mother must be ashamed.
These guys should not be over there. If they want to fight something, go to Washington D.C. where the real atrocities take place and where we need real defence.
I wish our soldiers would really stand up and stop being sheeple. I’ll keep praying about it.
God bless y’all.
March 5th, 2008 at 5:51 am
You sick, sick person. I don’t understand why anyone would do something like this. Thankfully, the puppy is in heaven now with God, but still.
You need some REAL help. Try reading the Bible. It helps all the time. I’ll be praying for you. Even though I don’t really think you deserve it. God still loves you, though I…don’t really. But I’ll work on that.
God bless you all.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:12 am
first id like to ask all the military hating posters, Do u really think everyone single marine is like that stupid idiot. im a liberal who served in same unit w/ this asshole on the same depolyment and i can tell u first hand that the majority of us in that unit had no idea he did this or else action would have been taken sooner. trust me all of us here in this unit right now despise this sick retard for staining our name our corps and our country. i know i dont condone twisted behavior like this and niether do any of the marines i work with. there is no excuse for the asshole and i hope he gets what he deserves for the tarnish hes put on our name. and i agree w/ all the others who have said this before me, if the only thing u know about what happens overseas is what u hear on the news or from word of mouth then u dont know shit so shut the hell up
March 5th, 2008 at 6:13 am
obviously sick and needs proffesional help and we need to support them
March 5th, 2008 at 6:18 am
stainedhonor…well said ..THANK-YOU for your service..there are alot of idiot on these boards and dont seem to think very well..but anyway we know this was probably an isolated incident… and then there is stupid Alex putting this way out of proportion saying or incinuating all the Marines are like this..he needs to shut up about that it is only spreading Hate sometimes Most tof the time he does good and sometimes he dont..(like this story) ANYway IM a HUGE FAN… We appreciate YOU tremendously we know the what you have done FOR US THANK-YOU again….
March 5th, 2008 at 6:19 am
stainedhonor …YOUR MY HERO!!!!!!!
March 5th, 2008 at 6:31 am
OUR SOLDIERS SHOULD NOT BE FIGHTING AN ILLEGAL WAR IN THE FIRST PALCE..ISNT THIS ALONE ILLEGAL? IT IS!!!!!!!
March 5th, 2008 at 6:33 am
WHY ARE OUR SOLDIERS EVEN THERE? DUH THEY NEED TO ALL QUIT ONE THing we dont support is an ILLEGAL WAR
March 5th, 2008 at 6:36 am
I asked my cousin why her fiance is over there and all she said was that he says; “they tell us to go, we go.” I am certain the founding fathers of this nation didn’t mean for soldiers to be mindless. If you don’t ask why you’re fighting, and you know the people above you who tell you to go are fools (those who say there is no God and couldn’t care less about ‘One nation under GOD’) the reason ‘they’ tell us to go isn’t enough to go.
And if you go for a G.I. bill or a job and go and kill people only because ‘they’ tell you to go…how are you any different from them or even the mafia or even terrorists?
So, I’m asking you Marine Sir, because I know the news is defiled with lies – why are you guys over there? Do they tell you why? How do you know they are telling you the truth? and Is their truth based on the Bible?
God bless all of you with safety.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:41 am
When is the court martial? This man is a disgrace.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:46 am
oh and wen i say he should get wat he deserves i mean through the right and legal way in court. i dont condone all the vigilanty “lets go kill his ass, or rot in hell’ stuff. like thats really gonna solve anything. ever heard the saying 2 wrongs dont make a right. and thanks for ur support manms0808.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:51 am
and as for ur question Laurie i am a Christian and i do beleive in my God. i cant speak for anyone else but as for my reason i do wat i do for my friends and family, not “just because i was told to.” my old commander had a great policy. there were 3 things that were important to him God, Family, and the Corps in that order, and i totally agree w/ him
March 5th, 2008 at 6:51 am
staineddonor WE SUPPORT YOU WE THINK YOUR GRRREEEEAATT!!!!!!!
March 5th, 2008 at 6:53 am
This is NOT intended for all those who post here. However, for those to whom it applies my recommendations are as follows: first, learn how to read and write the “King’s English”. A good percentage of those who post have no concept of punctuation, sentence structure, spelling or manners. Second, get informed of the issues and take some time to really research who, and what, is really behind most of the decisions and actions taken by this government. Do you actually think that anyone with any acceptable level of intelligence and knowledge of the issues is going to take you seriously when you can’t even spell? Take some time know the issues and form opinions though knowledge and research. Otherwise, you’re just an idiot with a very big mouth with absolutely nothing to share and even less to say.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:00 am
staineddonor what do the soldiers over there think of this war? or the majority of them? DO they think they could have been lied to about the war? cause as you know us here WE KNOW they were and we have NO DOUBTS about this this is why we are so angry and we are wondering why the soldiers wouldnt just quit and not stay there…there is alot of evidence of gov involvement..do they know this?
March 5th, 2008 at 7:04 am
all i know is that some like it and some dont. sorry, but i honestly dont know anymore than that
March 5th, 2008 at 7:10 am
well i always just think….well if ALL the military would just quit (illegal to fight in an illegal war anyways) and not keep the choas going over there..well and NOT enlist anymore.. we are baffled by the generals and military leaders being so stupid and putting thier troops in harms way..I used to say I COULD do a better job than they are doing seriously we do hold the leaders in the military responsible maybe you could get the word out to others in the military and they would QUIT because really this IS the only answer….
March 5th, 2008 at 7:15 am
damn
March 5th, 2008 at 7:27 am
stainedhonor Says: Post:366
War crimes committed in Our great name:
1.)Firebombing Falluja: Two weeks ago the UK Independent ran an article which confirmed that the US had “lied to Britain over the use of napalm in Iraq”. (6-17-05) Since then, not one American newspaper or TV station has picked up the story even though the Pentagon has verified the claims.
2.) US Troops Fire on Ambulance: Meanwhile, US forces opened fire on an ambulance vehicle in Fallujah, wounding Dr Rafi Al-Isawi, director of Fallujah Hospital along with two of his colleagues traveling in.
3.)’Unusual Weapons’ Used in Fallujah: BAGHDAD, Nov 26 (IPS) – The U.S. military has used poison gas and other non-conventional weapons against civilians in Fallujah, eyewitnesses report. I thought only Saddam did this, So fuck you Marine.
4.) 200 Children Die Every Day Iraq’s Health Care Under the Occupation: Since the US military invasion and occupation of Iraq, Iraq’s health care system has deteriorated as a result of deliberate destruction by the US administration.
5.) US marines have killed several Iraqi civilians after opening fire at a bus which drove through a checkpoint in the city of Ramadi, the US military and Iraqi police say.
6.) US War Crimes – Torture Of Iraqi Prisoners Exposed: On April 29, CBS televisions 60 Minutes II program screened graphic images of Iraqi prisoners being tortured and sexually humiliated by US troops at the Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad.
7.) Red Cross Finds Detainees Intentionally Tortured in Guantanamo as Lawyers in Germany Charge Rumsfeld, Tenet With War Crimes in Iraq: In a confidential report, the Red Cross concluded that the U.S. has been intentionally using psychological and sometimes physical coercion “tantamount to torture” on prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.
8.) 3rd U.S. soldier sentenced for rape and murder in Iraq (notice it says 3rd U.S. soldier so this should be 9 and 10, but wait there is more): A 23-year-old U.S. Army private has been sentenced to 110 years in prison, a day after a military jury convicted him of rape and four counts of murder for his role in the attack last year on an Iraqi family in Mahmudiya, a hostile Sunni Arab town south of Baghdad.
9.) 4 More Charged With Rape, Murder in Iraq: 4 more U.S. soldiers charged in Iraq rape-slayings case; 5th charged with dereliction of duty (this makes 11, 12, 13, 14, and 15. I could go on and on and on so stainedhonor your military is nothing but a bunch of puppy killing, baby raping, grandmother killing group of pussies and I would not even piss in your mouth if it was on fire.
I have said this before I do not need your military for my Forefathers gave me the second admendment: Right to keep and bear arms.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
So go fuck yourself and your commanding officer, Soldier
March 5th, 2008 at 7:31 am
MOST SOLDIERS DO NOT KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN USED…SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND DO NOT JUDGE THEM….ITS NOT THIER FAULT……ZEB guess you dont see ….THEY WERE SENT THERE NOT KNOWING THE TRUTH …IN A WAR …..KILL OR BE KILLED IN THIS SITUATION YOU WOULD DO THE SAME……..WE HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON THE ISSUE OF THE SOLDIERS BEING USED IN THE FIRST PLACE….
March 5th, 2008 at 7:32 am
If that puppy was real, I hope he will get what comes his way.
I am sick of the way Americans preach to others how to conduct their lives, what to do, and how to live it.
His act portrays to my mind the greater illness of the broader American mind.
You bring up murderers that kill their fellow students in great numbers on the campuses of your universities. You attack innocent nations and rob them of their freedom, by enforcing your “all so holy” democratic views on everybody, but this soldiers act is as a matter of fact the values your democracy encourages.
This is the way you treat your prisoners of war. This soldiers act shows the real American value system.
You don’t have such great morals and values. I hope you will proof me wrong!
You destroyed my country, my life as well as others lives with your so called democratic values, by putting barbaric people in power in South Africa with the same values as this soldier. They kill and maim, torture and rob. Do the same type of injustice as this soldier did to the dog.
Now you, when decent people need your assistance you are quiet. You supported the ANC as a terrorist organisation, and didn’t condemn their barbaric acts of violence, then and now. Shame on you!
Stop interfering in other nations politics and start cleaning your own backyard.
From: Christoffel.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:38 am
ISRAEL attacked us on 9/11 so we invaded Iraq on their behalf……
WOW that made sense !!
March 5th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Israel attacked us on 9/11 & their Antichrist Spirit & inhuman tactics entered our Troops.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:41 am
CHRISTOFFEL Quit judging your NOT helping anything
March 5th, 2008 at 8:42 am
My Interests: Chillin out, sleeping, playing sports, blah blah, killing puppies, blah blah, cruisin, and definitely when I get out of the marine corps!
Wow … that guy is getting his ass handed to him on his Bebo comment section. Hope the ‘investigation’ is coming along. Make sure he’s doing his ‘cruising’ in jail when he gets back to the US.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:05 am
Its so easy to kill a helpless animal….isn’t it? But these bastards are the worse kind of whimps when faced with an equal. Love to see him showing how big a man he is where it really counts.Disgussted, with even the thought of hurting something that can not fight back. Total deprivation, deserves the worse punnishment
March 5th, 2008 at 9:08 am
David Motari wasn’t born, he was poured out of a colostomy bag. Thank you Garrett for posting his name, address phone number and all pertinent information. A spotlight needs to shine on walking sewage like L.C. Motari. Creeps like him like to scurry into hiding when the going gets rough. Let’s send him to the front lines! It is a proven fact that bullies are cowards. Why should decent young men and women be chopped into burger on the front lines, let’s do the world a favor and send the David Motari’s of the world. Do you really want a sadist like this associating with your kids, your elderly loved ones, anything or anyone weak and vulnerable? Let’s send him to the Middle East. He will still have more of chance than he gave that puppy.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:51 am
David Motari’s boss in the Marines is Major Chris Perrine, call him and tell him your thoughts about his underling if u like …808-257-8841
David Mortari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191
This is David Motari’s car
license plate number Hawaii NXE-978
March 5th, 2008 at 10:14 am
After landing from the toss, the puppy then confessed to being an Al Katydid operative in charge of assination attempts on world leaders and planning the entire 9/11 operation single-pawedly. American interrogation at it’s finest!!!!!!
March 5th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Put this demonic fecal matter inside a UFC fight cage, and put a vicious pit bull in the cage and the dog will take vengeance , ignore his screams and cries, as the pit bull rips chunks of flesh and bloodies the floor, then stop the dog before the dog kills him, and put him on a stretcher and make him think he’s going to the hospital for emergency surgery, have the ambulance take him to a cliff with rocks below and throw him over, then having filmed all of this, show it to EVERY soldier in the mid east and say this will happen to you if you torture animals or shoot at bystanders, got it? I know this wouldnt happen but Im sick of seeing Unmerciless murderous heathen scum, I dream of seeing justice delivered to those who deserve it, stock up, prepare yourself, because they are coming back to the states with a lust for killing, violence , and torture. When martial law happens and it will after the bastards in D.C. orchestrate another terror attack, you better have thousands of rounds of ammo, reloading equipment, food, cause your going to have sicko psychos like this Motari scum-shit breaking down doors looking for guns and forcing people to relocate.
March 5th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Don’t you just love the International Network? Makes tracking down people like this so much easier.
Jason
March 5th, 2008 at 11:59 am
our soldiers are very sick and in need of proffesional help…support our troops …
March 5th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
WE LOVE OUT TROOPS WE SUPPORT OUR TROOPS GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS
March 5th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
quit exaggerating you are not helping anything
March 5th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
MY thoughts on whether the puppy is alive or dead:
If it was dead, it would be hanging limp with all four limbs relaxed and extended downward. You can see that the puppy is curled into a fetal position with hind legs pulled up and into the body as well as the fore legs.
Also it appears that the legs are splayed out while the puppy is spinning through the air.
To be honest, the simplest explanation to me is that it was a real puppy thrown by a soldier coping with ptsd.
And if the Haditha massacres are any indication, this marine will not face any real consequences.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
F*ck the troops. They knew what they were getting into the day they enlisted. F*cking sick cowards all and an embarassment to true Americans. F*ck them all. Just a bunch of animals coming back to police your neighborhood as cops.
March 5th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
uncle meat uuuhhhhhh NO MOST OF THE TROOPS DID NOT KNOW THEY ARE BEING USED
March 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
If the puppy was dead he would be limp, he wouldn’t have his legs all tucked up.
This guy is a piece of garbage and a disgrace to everything.
March 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
progressing from the torture of small animals to raping children, isn’t much of a leap!
March 5th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
So he likes Jeffery Dahmer? Then his fate should be the same. Ahole is what he is. Why did someone not stop him? What about his buddies that were there. They deserve the same fate.
March 5th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Amazing what one can find. Mother Ranaye is a part-time realtress with Century21 in Monroe, WA and father is a roofer with Baring Roofs, operation out of his home in Florence Acres Road. LCPL Motari graduated from an “alternative” (i.e.: place for violent youths – I know, I’ve taught English in one) school called “Leaders in Learning.” Mother drives a school bus (guess the realty and roofing trades aren’t that lucrative) and has another job, but Dad doesn’t seem to have a second job so a lot rests on Mother’s earning a living.
PETA fringeniks are threatening Mom, but the Monroe School District is still letting her drive the bus (route and bus number are on the Internet) regardless of the danger to her charges.
Sister Kathleen (evidently a home-care nursing provider for those who cannot care for themselves and evidently a hypocrite) opines on the Internet that since it’s okay to kill foeti in utero, it must be okay to kill dogs. Now the Catholic League rantniks under William Donohue have called for her to be aborted post-partum.
I served 21 years in the Navy and am 4th genreation career military. Moving from base to base as an Air Force Brat, I could never have a pet. The day I retired, I adopted a dog from the San Diego Animal Shelter, and a year later adopted another to keep her company. I lost both dogs to cancers in the past two years and I miss them. Dogs do not hurt unless frightened or trained so. There is the difference between dogs and Islamites: dogs are noble and good, mohammedans are not.
I always said that I never met a bad Marine. Now, I have found one. T’is a pity Motari’s family and comrades must suffer for his sociopathy. T’is a greater pity they feel called to defend the indefensible. This is sad and conflicting.
Unless the USMC refers LCPL Motari to a Special Court-Martial under Articles 133 or 134 of the UCMJ, the most he can be awarded in punishment is: reduction in rank to the next lowest pay-grade, loss of 1/2 of his base pay (at the new, lower paygrade) for 2 months, and extra-duty and restriction to barracks for 45 days, or restriction to barracks without extra-duty for 60 days. Since he would be ineligible to seek promotion again for at least one year, this would mean the loss of about $6,000 in income for himself and his wife. If he did this, his actions are deplorable. I believe it was Pascal who said, “In the great scheme of eternity, the life of a fly is unimportant – except, of course, to the fly.” Let the CO of the 1st Battalion/3rd Marines handle this at an Article 15 hearing (Captian’s Mast to Sailors).
Sadly, nothing will help the puppy. In the Islamic world (aka Bizarroland), dogs are considered vermin, the way we consider rats. Waddy (open sewer drainage ditches) dogs are considered legal targets for abuse by Islamites. It seems as though Motari went Native while serving among suicide-bombing scum who recently strapped two Downs Syndrome girls with explosives and sent them among shoppers in souks, exploding them remotely. This, too, deserves outrage. At least Motari didn’t fling a developmentally-challenged baby over a cliff. Or, at least it wasn’t recorded for posterity.
I’d rather live in a culture that is upset over the torture of animals and children and the challenged than bow down five times a day to worship the asshole in front of me like the moslems do. Our culture is better and Motari is a statistical outlier in our graphing. It’s very conflicting and terribly sad. It isn’t simple.
I hope his wife seriously thinks about having children with a man who flings small animals over cliffs.
March 5th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
He admits it on MySpace: http://www.albertastars.com/us.....3238_R.JPG
March 5th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
“Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen” (Deuteronomy 27:25).
March 5th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Promote homosexuality so the Gentiles will fall from Grace.
March 5th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
US soldiers say the SAME thing when caught comitting war crimes :”sorry you werent supposed to see that” .
Wonderful………… as long as the pictures dont get out its OK.
That GOD there is a GOD who see all things and will require justice to be served !!
March 5th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
This piece of shit should have his life ruined for this!! I hope they get him and throw the book at him!!
March 5th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Thank God the Puppy was not a young Iraqi girl……… otherwise nobody would have noticed.
March 5th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
I read thru the first ten pages of comments, and I think I have a feel for them.
First, folks, let’s keep our heads above water (not always easy, but necessary for breathing.)
My Zen teacher used to say, “Don’t talk to the furniture”.
We don’t need to allow ourselves to become entangled in the carnality of this thing.
If a chair breaks when you sit in it, do you threaten the chair? This guy could still repent, and get right. It’s still possible. Let’s keep our heads and take advantage of this great opportunity.
Don’t get me wrong: I’m as offended as anyone by this, by the Dark Presence that moves these men to these acts. But I intend to be proactive about it rather than reactive.
I think Alex nailed it on the podcast last night.
“There’s footage of just everything you can imagine. I don’t like looking it up, half the time when you email it to me I can’t open it, I have been avoiding this. I have been subconsciously, I’m — no — I apologize. I repent! You’re gonna hear about this constantly! We’re gonna write hundreds of articles about it! We are gonna call for these people’s arrest, and we are also — uh, uh, we need to have a debate about these websites that think it’s cute and funny.”
Alex’s instincts are right on the mark. This is actually a great opportunity. See the American people jump at this story: it’s all over the news. Do you remember the video of the (were they Irish?) mercenaries that shot up a bunch of cars out the back of an SUV, to the tune of Elvis’s “Train I Ride”? I heard about that from Randi Rhodes. But I never saw it on mainstream news.
That was, in my opinion, too strong for the people’s sense of reality. But this puppy is something they can grapple with. Think of it as an innoculation, a greatly attenuated pathogen that gives their immune system something to build a case against.
But our case, the one we should build, is the massive amount of these snuff films on line that stem out of this awful war — out of all wars — out of these fools that are Priests of the God of War, whether they claim any of the great prophets or not, their god is Ares, the War God.
In my church days, in the 80’s, I remember Dr. Dobson (one of Bush’s great backers) talking about being, as a psychologist, part of a task force on pornography, saying, “now, this wasn’t Playboy, OK? These films we had to sit thru day after day were the most depressing thing I’ve ever gone thru, and many of them were ’snuff films’”. That was the first time I ever heard the term.
The reason I came to this thread was in search of the beginnings of that archive, that in my opinion great work that Alex spoke about, in order to scope it out and contribute if I can, because this is bigger than Abu Ghraib. As Alex said, that was a “sweetener”, by comparison to what it was intended to distract from, or a “softener”.
Where is the page that organizes this new campaign, to expose this mortal weakness of our enemies? This mile-wide chink in their armor?
March 5th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
All you military servicemen claim to fight for our freedom. You fricking people are a joke.
I am sick of paying your slary.
Exactly who have you been fighting to keep our freedoms?
What freedoms have you exactly saved by attacking Iraq?
Every war we have been in since WWII has only been to make defense contractors rich and to waste the lives of innocent people.
How did fighting in vietnam protect our freedoms?
How did overthrowing countless governments protect our freedoms?
Maybe you have not noticed yet you stupid Jarheads but…. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHTS LEFT!
You do not protect us from anything. You cause nothing but problems for this world.
We have 30,000 nukes we don’t need you anymore.
I am so pissed at you worthless overpaid soldiers. Only thing you are good for is killing people. You only take: you take our money, you take innocent lives and you take Americas reputation down the shitter.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
“Why is this twat trying to demonise this man cos he killed a dog? Jones, Nimmo etc probably eat meat all the time what is the difference?”
that was maybe the dumbest thing i have ever read in my life. what does eating meat have to do with throwing a dog off a cliff. you are an idiot.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
What they should be doing is throwing this sick sub-species known as the Ashkenazi all over the cliffs of the Planet. In the process will get rid of those appalling hook noses. Yes no problem with Aramaic, Hebrew or Arabic languages. Those are meant to be spoken. Once we get rid of them, the whole world is gonna be saved. Why do you think throughout history, they have been expelled from every country. Forget about going back to Khazaria. Basically they belong nowhere, even when stealing places, where they have zero geographic much less genetic connection. Besides going by an ethnic misnomer, that first appear semantically in an English comedy. Talking about being pathetic. No wonder Zionism is not even mentioned here.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
I asked McCain today what he thought of neo-con Michelle Malkin defending the senseless abuse of a mammal… all he could say was “stupid gook”.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
“However, after watching the video on YouTube, it certainly appears the puppy was alive prior to Motari’s sadistic stunt.”
Where do you get that idea? The dog doesn’t move the entire time, and stays in the same position. Have you ever held a puppy by its neck? They just don’t do that.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
lol, the puppy was clearly looking around. Go ahead though and burry your head in the sand and deny whats in front of your eyes. It’s what americans do best. So are you suggesting that the puppy was a robotic one? Thats the only other way we could of seen what we saw and how much would that hoax cost. People *shakes head saddly*
Thats it I’m going to Lakota Nation.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
I feel this was very discusting.
Someone should seriously report him for what he’s done.
My son was so upset.
He’s nine, And he balded his eyes out.
You are a cold hearted sick basterd.
Why don’t you use your time doing good things for your country.
Do you belive in Karma?
Because I hope you get yours big time, That poor incient puppy.
You need serious Help LOSER!!!!!!!!
March 5th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Motari has admitted the puppy was alive and that he thought it would be funny to throw it off a cliff instead of shooting it, which according to him is regular SOP for “strays”.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
David Mortari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
Phone: (360) 794-7191
(714) 330-0418
DAVID MOTARI FACTS:
1) He is now in Iraq, or Hawaii (in Kaneohe Bay)
2) He is the soldier in the video (see the pics of Iraq on his Bebo site for confirmation)
3) He married Jessica Thatcher in January 2008 (google: david motari heraldnet)
4) His wife moved to Hawaii on Feb 24, 2008 (google: david motari jessica myspace
March 5th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Demented Mortari,
I have viewed the video a few times to determine if the animal was alive. It is quite plain that it was. The legs of the animal were retracted in towards the body. A dead animal would have legs hanging limp, not pulled into the body.
So with that, I just want to offer you the opportunity to come into my school in Eureka, California (Not too far from your home) and demonstrate your level of skill. Show us your bloodthirsty nature. We enjoy ones such as you. I guarantee that there are no puppies here however. But we do have quite a few dogs. I assure you that any one of them would find extreme pleasure in your “measure”.
SO if you are more than a puppy killer then please come by and say hello to me and my students, I mean dogs.
Sincerely,
Master D. Howard
Kung Fu University
Eureka, California
March 5th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
The video is REAL. Straight from the idiot’s mouth. http://www.albertastars.com/us.....3238_R.JPG
March 5th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Wow I think it’s amazing that people are giving more outrage to a DOG then the people that are getting slaughtered. I think all you people need to wake up.
And also: even if he DID kill it, out of PURE SPITE, do you people have ANY IDEA how fucked up you get, in the head, from a war? You people are VERY quick to judge: go BE THAT GUY for a little while and see the things he’s seen- like my friend (who served as a medic,) who saw people literally getting blown to bits and having their skin melt off like water off a Popsicle, and THEN you can have the right to bitch about what people do during war.
Now, before you start screaming like children, understand THIS: I don’t CONDONE it if it was even real, (in debate,) and I think animals should be treated right. All I’m saying is, (to quote Floyd,) you are all “treating people like pets, (treating) dogs respectfully,” -(Pink Floyd), but it’s really sad. Where was all the outrage over the MILLIONS of INNOCENT Iraqis getting slaughtered? Where was the OUTRAGE over American (and British and other “coalition”) troops getting killed on a DAILY BASIS?!? No- only when a fucking DOG gets thrown over a cliff do people flip out. what a society, I swear to God…..
you people need to wake up.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
mike, shut the fuck up….
March 5th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Nicely said Mike.
We are now conditioned to torture, kill and imprison Arabs.
The media and their de-humanization propaganda is the same here as it is in Tel Aviv.
Thank GOD this puppy was not an IRAQI child……… otherwise nobody would have noticed.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Motari, wow fighting for freedom?!?! Your suppose to set an example. I myself was considering joining the Air Force recently, and i still might do this, but seeing this video, which by the way honestly almost made me throw up, has given me many second thoughts about our military. Your a pice of shit Mortari and theres absolutely no excuse for it. Your suppose to be part of Americas brave and proud?! DEFENDING FREEDOM?!?! You need psychological help and should be discharged from the military
March 5th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
DAVID BITCH ASS MOTARI I SAY, GO SUCK COCKS IN HELL YOU STUPID ASS MOTHER FUCKING GOD DAMN SON OF A BITCH!!! HOW THE HELL COULD YOU THROW A FUCKING INICENT PUPPY OF A GOD DAMN CLIFF! YOU STUPID ASS BITCH! YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT TO FUCKING KILL YOU AND UR DUMB ASS FAMILY NOW BITCH ASS FUCK FACE! I HOPE U DIE AND GO TO HELL SO U CAN BE REUNITED WITH ALL YOUR OTHER PUPPY THROWING COCK SUCKERS OF FRIENDS YOU HAVE IN HELL BITCH!
March 6th, 2008 at 12:03 am
plant.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:22 am
WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR US TO WITHDRAW FROM IRAQ, WOULD THE PREZ HAVE TO NOT VETO A BILL THAT CALLS FOR IT?
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS THE ONLY OPTION, LOOK AT THE OTHERS.. WELL YOUVE SEEN THEM
“Observe good faith with all nations, CULTIVATE PEACE AND HARMONY WITH ALL.”
GEORGE WASHINGTON
“I dream of giving birth to a child who will ask “Mom what is war?”
Eve Merriam
“MANKIND MUST PUT AN END TO WAR , OR WAR WILL PUT AN END TO MANKIND.”
JFK
“What luck for rulers that men do not think”
adolf hitler
March 6th, 2008 at 12:36 am
Mike,
You’re right. War does screw with your head but think about this…
I just returned 8 months ago from my 2nd tour. I’ve lost friends and fellow soldiers and seen death in many forms – none of which give excuses to do stupid things like this. I’ve seen troops doing things that they shouldn’t do but I’ve also seen messed up soldiers do good things. There were many like Motari. He’s a typical young buck acting like an idiot because he’s one of us and he has a gun. Sometimes out there in the field you don’t know if you can trust anyone not wearing a U.S. uniform but like I said its no excuse to do stupid things to the Iraqis because it only fuels their rage and next thing you know they’re plotting to kill you. I’m ashamed to see this guy wearing our flag. He’s just like a lot of the other idiots that have done stupid things like slap Iraqi kids around. Many of us could’ve done things like this in Iraq and gotten away with it but like my Commanding Officer said “don’t do anything that you’ll regret because even when nobody is looking what goes around comes around.” Too bad for Motari he never listened AND he taped it. Like I said he’s a “YOUNG BUCK.”
March 6th, 2008 at 12:54 am
Dog = “mans best friend”
March 6th, 2008 at 1:02 am
This is where my taxes are going? To pay some professional murderer to chuck animals off of cliffs? Yes, I know that soldiers and innocent people are dying too, but fuck the soldiers, they knew EXACTLY what they were signing up for in the first place, so it’s their own damn fault. I regret that innocent people are getting killed as well, and I truly despise the raping and killing of women and children. A lot of people say there are good soldiers out there too, I say “video or it didn’t happen.” I’m the least political person here, so I have no clue what right wing or left wing means, I just hate this fucker and the people who trained him to be so fucking emotionless. They say they’ll conduct a full investigation, but the reality is they’re probably gonna promote him for putting his training to kill mercilessly to good use. After all, soldiers are only really good for killing. After that they’re pretty much worthless. Show me some real bravery and pride and I’ll show you another country’s military.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:29 am
Nicely said “mike” (431)
This is bull shit. I bet if they showed an Iraqi soldier’s head being blown off, it would be “FUCK YEAH!” instead of “FUCK YOU!”.
You’re all fucking blind. What he did was fucked up yes, but the fact that you people are tripping over a fucking ANIMAL and not giving a shit about the the people getting killed makes me ashamed to be part of the human race.
All these American people bashing the States, SHUT THE FUCK UP. You’re unhappy, move out of the country then bitch your whiny ass off. Try to do something about it instead of whining.
By the way, Motari, you’re still a major asshole.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:34 am
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Dude, wtf are you showing this to your 9 year old?
March 6th, 2008 at 2:07 am
i cant believe how many ignorant people there are out there that think that all service members are like this asshole. do you know how many of us despize this jerk for what he did. and i can tell u from personal experience that i was never taught to kill or harm anyone or anything that was innocent. so again i ask how ignorant do you have to be to think this bad apple is an accurate representation of us all. thats like saying that just because some guy who works at mcdonalds rapes some girls that thats how ALL the rest of them act. come on people. theres bad people in every organization. pull your heads out of your asses
March 6th, 2008 at 2:12 am
We need to look at the mentality that is on display here. This is nothing but the end result of good psyops training in action. When the military is done training a ‘good’ Marine they have no human emotional attachment while in the field. The only objects that exist are targets, human or not. It is a disturbing act but not at all different than anything else that occurs in any other war that the ‘developed’ world has participarted in the last 200+ years. War is a dirty art that is practiced by dirty and warped souls. Would not have surprised me if it did happen to be a baby. We have all seen the sociopathic actions being excercised and dressed up as patriotism. So keep driving your 10 mpg vehicle and heckling your government for instituting foreign policies that promote violence to secure a product that is worshipped within the fabric of your society. If you want to see change start with yourself and your lifestyle. Then you can annalize why that soldier even had the oppurtunity to throw the puppy over the cliff in the first place. Only in the US could John ‘100 year war’ Mccain get the Facist nomination after the clusterfuck created over the last 8years!
March 6th, 2008 at 5:59 am
I hope your body arrives home in a body bag with a bullet through your head! You think you’re a bad ass? Come to the South, we’ll show you what a real bad ass can do, and it sure ain’t bullying a little puppy! Do us and YOUR family a favor and put a bullet in your own head psycho!
March 6th, 2008 at 6:52 am
When I first heard about this I wanted to throw up!. What makes people so Sick in the head that they think this is okay?.. Yes, It is very disturbing when a Human life is lost in a war. It is sad, but war has been around since the beginning of time. Pointlessly killing innocent animals is unexcusable!.. I am not a vegan nor a vegetarian. I beleive that God did give us certain animals to eat for survival. But the animals that we have domesticated as pets depend on us for their survival, food, love and comfort!.. So upon hearing this, and other situations simillar it really does make people sick and angry!!!!…..(to say the very least)
March 6th, 2008 at 7:04 am
obviously sick and needs professional counseling ….soo sad our soldiers had to be used and put in these terrible conditions
March 6th, 2008 at 7:34 am
This doesn’t reflect on all solidiers and the military in general. This guy is just a sick INDIVIDUAL that needs help.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:18 am
You and Michael Vick should go bowling together.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:20 am
He thinks that he is such a badass when he kills that puppy. Has anyone punched this guy in the face yet?
March 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
So Motari, how does it feel to know that half the world wants you dead? Hopefully someone will kill you soon.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Guys, guys! What’s with the death wishes. Don’t do that! Make it something he’ll survive so he can live with it for the rest of his life! And all you people saying it’s unfair to group all military personnel (see: trained emotionless killers) together, I say again: video or it didn’t happen. So far I’ve seen video after video of soldiers doing cruel or stupid things to animals. One shot a house dog that was just lying on the ground relaxing and tried to say it was gonna attack him. Another shows a group throwing rocks at a 3 legged dog that was also just lying there. There’s also the one who raped and murdered an UNDERAGE GIRL! You guys are pedophiles too! You’re killing and torturing innocent people, I know there’s plenty more raping and killing that hasn’t been discovered cause unfortunately some of you DO have a few synapses firing in your warped brain. (At least when you’re not firing your gun) Then there’s this shitstain. I have videos to back up every thing I say about all of you. What do you have to prove me wrong?
March 6th, 2008 at 11:44 am
What do you expect from trained murderers? I’m sure this kind of thing goes on all the time. I mean US soldiers are known for being rapists, torturers, murderers. It’s just part of their nature.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Motari likes chillin’ ‘n killin’!
http://www.newslampoon.com/motari.htm
March 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
hey anon r u really that stupid or just that ignorant. if u wanna see videos of marines doing good deeds all u have to do is look for them. trying go to google or youtube and look up marines doing humanitarian aid, or marines helping people. there ARE videos of marines doing good things out there u just dont wanna see them cause ur to blinded to try and see anything other than ur narrow lil view on the situation
March 6th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
and for the rest of u out there that continuously bash the entire military, think about this. if were just a bunch of worthless murderers that this country would be better w/out go back and think about a war that happened 60 or so years ago and then tell me how much you would like the idea of speaking german and japanese. now tell me how worthless u think we r. i think this guy motari is a jerk and a disgraceful stain as well but were not ALL like this. i swear pull ur heads out of ur asses people.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
I cannot believe how worked up people get over a puppy being killed. Sure it was a dumb thing to do. By American standards what he did is stupid, no doubt by the marines standards what he did is illegal. (im not sure) but Either way, just by you people saying ridiculously stupid stuff like “hopefully someone will kill you soon” that makes you just as bad. Your sick and twisted enough in your pathetically small brain to hope that a marine, (who lets not forget has been fighting so you can sit at home and type bullshit comments and not be murdered in your bed) will be killed, for crippling a puppy? animals DO NOT equal human life people, would you swerve around that puppy and run over an old grandma? a little baby playing on the sidewalk? a crippled marine? a healthy marine for that matter? Unless like i say, you are sick and twisted enough to not have the psychological capacity, then NO you won’t. So give up the hardcore hippie liberal bullshit about animals, and start putting your energies into complaining about something useful. Like girls who get raped, or illegal immigration, or the election. Get a grip you pathological piece of shit who wrote this ridiculously shitty article. I cannot believe you wasted as much time as you did hunting down stuff like this.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
One cannot believe how worked up people get over a puppy being killed. Sure it was a dumb thing to do. By American standards what he did is stupid, no doubt by the marines standards what he did is illegal. (im not sure) but Either way, just by you people saying ridiculously stupid stuff like “hopefully someone will kill you soon” that makes you just as bad. Your sick and twisted enough in your pathetically small brain to hope that a marine, (who lets not forget has been fighting so you can sit at home and type bullshit comments and not be murdered in your bed) will be killed, for crippling a puppy? animals DO NOT equal human life people, would you swerve around that puppy and run over an old grandma? a little baby playing on the sidewalk? a crippled marine? a healthy marine for that matter? Unless like i say, you are sick and twisted enough to not have the psychological capacity, then NO you won’t. So give up the hardcore hippie liberal bullshit about animals, and start putting your energies into complaining about something useful. Like girls who get raped, or illegal immigration, or the election. Get a grip you pathological piece of shit who wrote this ridiculously shitty article. I cannot believe you wasted as much time as you did hunting down stuff like this.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
The issue, which I’m sure many posters will miss, is that sadistically killing a puppy is an indication of sickness. Whether it’s a psychological problem, a genetic problem, or a defect in character — whoever would do such a thing is a danger to others. Someone who would throw a puppy off a cliff for sh*** and giggles is not a person who values life. They are not someone you want living in your neighborhood, or being around your children. That’s the issue here.
March 6th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
this issue is that people need to worry and wonder about other things. And not cause a man threw a puppy down a hill or whatever it was. clearly mr. agnitio has no background in behavioral science because there are many many many more sick and twisted freaks out there. Thats not even considered sick and twisted. Its probably not even considered ABNORMAL. so before you run your mouth about topics on which you have no clue. Quit posting. And before you get all offended and try and find me so you can send me hate mail, why don’t you do a little research and actually find out for yourselves that what i speak is true.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
icbm, i live in jefferson county{westminster} and even though your post made little to no sense,
the justice system here in colorado is a joke, i myself was blacklisted as a felon on garbage charges here in jefco and served 5 years probation.
it takes 10 years to get a felony charge off your record in colorado,{other states is a year,maybe 2}
the judges at the courthouse in jeffco are corrupt and i am planning on moving somewhere else as soon as i can clear up the injustice they put on my life.
March 6th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Sirius says:
“Thats not even considered sick and twisted.”
Were that true, there would be no public backlash against the Marine’s alleged killing of the puppy.
“Its probably not even considered ABNORMAL. so before you run your mouth about topics on which you have no clue.”
It’s strange that you feel comfortable criticising others for what you believe to be their lack of knowledge, while at the same time admitting that you don’t know what constitutes abnormal behavior yourself. So if I’m unqualified to comment on it, in your opinion, you’re certainly unqualified to comment on my comment.
I majored in sociology, and minored in cultural anthropology. Did you even go to college? Did you know that many serial killers as children tortured and killed animals? But hey, I guess we’re to ignore those sorts of red flags. Because, after all, you’ve decide it isn’t an issue people need to worry and wonder about!
“Quit posting.”
No.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Let the Marines know how you feel about Motari and his assinine video. mcbh.pao.fct@nmci.usmc.mil
March 6th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
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March 6th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
War is Hell. An unconstitutional War based on lies and greed breeds Corruption and Cruelty.
David Motari and the countless other soldiers who are over there blowing up animals and killing them in every way possible, raping children, killing civilians, they were cruel and soulless long before they ever went to war. This war just gives them the perfect excuse to live a life of evil without repercussions.
But sins have a way of coming back to haunt you. David Motari and others of your ilk, you will be imprisoned and shunned from society, I promise you.
P.S. I am voting for the only presidential candidate who is anti-war and you should too. (Hint: initials R.P.]
March 6th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
To Those Who Seem to Think This is Just About a Puppy:
What this marine did to this defenseless animal was callous and cruel and if it’s an isolated incident, we could be satisfied that he’s going to be punished for it. The problem is this isn’t an isolated incident. The anger that this is eliciting isn’t just about one dog, it’s about a pattern of the same level of callous cruelty by far too many people who are employed to use force on behalf of our government. It’s not just about one dog; it’s about the a**holes at Haditha and Abu Ghraib who disgraced our country. It’s about people being dumped out of wheelchairs by thug cops, it’s about thug cops beating women to the point of having to go to the hospital for, tasers being used to get people to sign forms, babies getting pepper sprayed by thug cops, etc. etc. etc. I could fill several pages of small type with the examples that can be easily found in a search of local news in just about any region of this country.
Don’t try to lecture us about “there are plenty of good cops out there” or “these people are out there fighting so we can be safe”. As for the former, if the so-called good cops don’t try to do anything to stop this crap, then they’re not good cops, they’re just enablers. For the latter, who is going to keep us safe from them when they come home and get badges? It’s becoming far too common and far too easy for people to rationalize immoral behavior when some sick demagogue can convince us it’s for the “greater good”. If you want to be patriotic, quit complaining about people who are disturbed by this and instead, grow a pair and do something to correct it.
Oh, BTW, we’re not all just a bunch of hippies.
March 6th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Howard H, well said! I get so angry every time some moron tries to defend this guy just because “he’s fighting for my freedom.” He’s fighting to kill, they all are. By training this guy and taking away any emotion he had in the first place, by turning him into a professional murderer (soldier), the “good soldiers” (talk about oxymoron) are just as responsible as he is. What saddens me is that they’re dumb enough to actually BELIEVE they’re doing good over there. They really think they’re defending something worthwile. Something else I find funny is all these other marines saying their honor has been tarnished. He mercilessly killed a defenseless creature without remorse-isn’t that what the marine’s are about? I was under the impression that cold ruthless murder for no reason other than “I was told to” meant you were someone’s bitch. But if they can feel that false “honor” then there’s a higher level of brainwashing and stupidity in the military than I first thought.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
WAKE UP PEOPLE…IT WAS A STUFFED ANIMAL..THE VIDEO RECORDER HAS SOUND EFFECTS ON IT. IT WAS A SICK JOKE, YES, BUT IT WAS A HARMLESS JOKE AND NO ANIMAL WAS INJURED DURING THE FILMING OF THIS MOVIE! GET A LIFE, WORRY ABOUT YOUR TEENAGE CHILD WHOM YOU’VE IGNORED FOR THE LAST 7 YEARS AND YOU WONDER WHY THEY ‘DON’T GET YOU” ANYMORE.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:07 am
You people are retards
go ahead and call me horrible names i don’t care
i do think it is sick and wrong to throw a puppy off a cliff
but when i saw the video the puppy wasn’t moving
it’s head stayed in the same position the whole time and when he threw it
it’s position didn’t change at all
so i think it was fake
and to all of those people who are saying that marines rape people and other things like that
how do you know this? did you hear it from someone?
i have a cousin in the army(not the marines) but so far his experience with them has made him a better guy not a complete a**hole
and what if this guy didn’t do anything
he could have been framed
so everyone just needs to leave him alone
and as someone said before
putting his address and phone number on here goes way beyond the line
March 7th, 2008 at 4:09 am
i dont think its fake. if it were the military would have challenged it. why would some soldiers stage a fake video like that? CMON. ITS REAL…AND IT HAS A NAME ITS CALLED “YOUNG GUYS WITH GUNS TOLD TO KICK ASS IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY WITHOUT ANY MORAL RESTRICTIONS” THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO TORTURE AND DONT GIVE A SHIT. and the good part is, they will come back and join our lovely society here in the u.s. of a. i love america ….what a great place.
March 7th, 2008 at 6:59 am
people that say its fake are so insane….this is making the USA look horrible…if they knew it was a fake…the US government would be saying it louder than everybody else.
wow i cant believe people…cant you just say ..thats horrible like a normal person.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:08 am
I see a lot of responses from some very uninformed people. The most judgmental words appear to spew from the ones who have never served a day and are most likely unqualified to do so. I, however, have served in both the Army and the Navy for the past 17 and a half years, both enlisted and officer. I am also a graduate of the Naval Academy, therefore quite familiar with the Marine Corps. The people I have had the pleasure of serving with number in the thousands and I can tell you that the honesty, integrity, and character of these numerous examples is far above that expected of normal society, but you already knew that, didn’t you? That’s why everyone is up in arms about this, but you don’t say a word about what you view on public television every week on Animal Cops Houston. You expect more because we ARE more. Rest assured I have no love for this Marine and I do believe it was a prank. The Marine Corps doesn’t make psychopaths, but it does attract them. You can blame the current social system in America for degenerate rejects, not the military. Young men age 18-22 don’t normally throw puppies off cliffs, but they would make a video to look like they did just to make idiots like you go apeshit. You got pwned, face it. You’re also getting worked by the press who want you to believe whatever they feed you. Good stories don’t sell, so they don’t get told. Most of you don’t even know that every major battle in Vietnam was won by the U.S., but the propaganda war in America lost it for all of us. For that reason Vietnam is Communist today. If we don’t learn a lesson from that Iraq is doomed to be an Anti-American Shiite-ruled puppet of a future nucler power named Iran. Most of you freakshows enjoy the separation of church and state offered here in America, but if you don’t you are free to leave. Not so over there. A clergy-ruled government is the goal, like the Caliphate you may remember if you were listening in history class. Sit back and shut the hell up if you don’t have the facts.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:27 am
I can only imagine that the people who defend this sick psychopath are themselves ex-service personnel who have justified their own psychopathic tendencies with the fact that they were allowed to get away with it when on active duty. The vast majority of service personnel follow their training and respect the uniform that they’re wearing.
This wasn’t a combat situation – it was a bunch of moronic jocks torturing an innocent animal. NO excuses.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:43 am
To Dana: There are people who don’t listen to the media. The only reason I saw this was it was on the front page of youtube. I never watch the news for the very reason you gave-good stories don’t sell. And if they really did train you to follow some bullshit “honor” then he wouldn’t have done it in the first place. And you’re right, I’ve never served, and I never will. I’m not a murderer, I’m not gonna be the government’s bitch, and my life is far too important to throw away for the likes of america. You’re a murderer, plain and simple. It’s too bad they don’t give you the same punishment they gave Dahmer or Gacey. Instead you get loaded with medals. I guess the shiny little pieces of metal will distract you long enough for them to brainwash you into thinking you’re a hero. And if it’s pissing you off so much, accept my challenge.
I have proof that marines are cruel heartless killers with no remorse.
You haven’t given me a single link to something that proves me wrong.
Therefore, all military personnel are cruel heartless killers with no remorse.
Link or it didn’t happen.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Why isn’t Wordpress stopping this bs from ICBM. I can’t post more than once an hour and look at this bullshit.
March 7th, 2008 at 10:54 am
to anon:
I have proof every week on Animal Cops Houston that American civilians are cruel and evil to animals. I guess we’re all evil brainwashed barbarians, huh? And guilty until proven innocent btw. I’m done with you because you’re just as brainwashed as you claim I am.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Yes, people in America abuse animals…constantly and repeatedly. The point of the controversy is that “our” (i use that term lightly) soldiers and marines should not be behaving in a manner that would get them arrested and charged here at home. What will you say if anyone leaks a video of marines raping and pillaging? “People get raped all the time.”, “That sort of thing has been going on forever.”? Our marines SHOULD abide by the principles of their home country while abroad. You’d think they were teenagers at college, just cut free from mom and dad’s watchfull eye.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:27 am
And also in response to dana’s previous post, the marines DO teach you to shut killing out of your conscience. my younger brother and one of his friends enlisted in the marines two years ago, and i have watched them become boisterous, abusive, and violent, traits that were not prominent in those two for as long as I’ve known them. My brother, WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ANIMAL LOVER, is now detached from his pets and doesn’t really respect them as living things. The marines drills it into your head, that you are a superior being. Also in that regard, none of these new marines (in past 4 years) that i have talked to has had ANY respect for the army or navy. they don’t think highly of you or the civilians of ANY nation. They build themselves up, and kill when they’re told to. no matter what.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:28 am
If you guys don’t stop using profanity the comments are coming down! There is no excuse why you can’t use English to present valid arguments why you agree or disagree. Simply saying swear words as a response doesn’t accomplish anything! All it makes you do is look like an idiot which you obviously are if you cuss all the time. Grow up or get lost, we don’t have time for idiots ruining it for everyone!
March 7th, 2008 at 11:30 am
Thankyou Stop Swearing. There really are a FEW adults in here. Children resort to name calling and shock attack. Adults converse.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Communist/Zionist sympathizers on this site try to spam and hide the truth from getting out.
March 7th, 2008 at 11:49 am
rather than dwelling on other people’s not-so-creative freedom of speech, go back and read my last two posts. they actually have something to say.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
A gaming website has taken up the animal cruelty cause using satire as its weapon.
http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/i.....to-pc.html
March 7th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
STRAIGHT FROM THE HORSES ASS:
He posted this “explanation” on his Myspace – I guess its now set to private, oh well.
A letter to everyone
Category: Life
When my mom found out about the MySpace, she encouraged me to write this letter so here it is.
I would like to begin by saying I am whole heartedly sorry for what I did to that animal. No creature big or small, smart or dumb deserves to feel the way it did in its last moments. I’ve spent the majority of the day in the company of my superiors. The next few days are going to be very difficult for me but I am not asking for your sympathy.
The hardest part about this is the numerous threats that my family has received and this is what I feel the most awful for. Never did I think the events of that day would result in such heartache. My wife Jessica was especially hurt when she saw the video. The reason for that being that she is not only an animal lover but a dog owner. All I can say is I’m sorry and I love you Babe.
In the field life loses it’s value when you see death every day. For those of you who are angry at me for laughing at the dog’s death, you have a right to. I enjoyed it. I didn’t think twice about it. Now I see the error in my ways.
I’d like to thank the numerous people who have understood what is going on and have offered their advice and their kind words in this difficult situation. And for the ones who are angry at me, you have a right to be. All I ask is that you leave my family out of this. What I did was my choice and my choice alone.
Finally, I want to state for the record, not blame the Corps for my actions. The Corps is a great organization and should not be held responsible for one individual.
Thank you everyone for taking the time to hear my side,
-David Andrew Motari
March 7th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
“In the field life loses it’s value when you see death every day. For those of you who are angry at me for laughing at the dog’s death, you have a right to. I enjoyed it. I didn’t think twice about it.”
Im pretty sure that this statement shows that the corps had something to do with it. he’s only sorry for the fact that his family may be in danger from his cruel and reckless act.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
The military requires discipline. George Bush intends to destroy our military through failure of discipline.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
The military doesnt require “discipline”. You’re thinking of obediance.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
ence
March 7th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
You’ll get your’s buddy – gaurenteed! What a looser!
March 7th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Hello again Dana.
I see you couldn’t wrap your feeble mind around what I said. I’ll start from the beginning and go slow so you can understand it.
I have proof that all marines are cruel and heartless and feel no remorse for murder. Apparently you seem to think that bringing up civilian cruelty is going to prove me wrong about the military.
It doesn’t.
Instead of proving me wrong you tried to distract those with the capacity for intelligent thought by saying “you guys do it too.” Congratulations on a job well failed.
When I said prove me wrong I meant to find something that is contrary to what I’ve stated. Having done that you would copy the address, and then paste it in the reply box. You would then explain what the link is about, and call me out. I would then watch it and see that I have been proven wrong.
Do you understand? I can’t think of a simpler way to explain it that doesn’t use the word “duuuuuuuhhhhhh”. The fact that you didn’t give me a way to view your “proof,” however, merely says to me that you are trying, pathetically I might add, to seem somehow intelligent. Unfortunately, there’s not even a link. I don’t watch anything on tv so I wouldn’t know anything about Animal Cops Houston. If you’re watching it though at least I know the Simpsons isn’t the only show that requires no thought on the viewer’s part.
Or by saying you’re done with me, is that your way of saying no such proof exists to say I’m wrong? Have you given up knowing you fought a losing battle? Are you admitting the futility in your “arguments?”
I’m still waiting. You other people bawwing about how we should respect these murderers, about how they’re not all bad, your batter has struck out. The premise is simple, if you truly are right, if there really ARE good military people out there, then you should have no problem finding proof of it. Step up to the plate, and have a swing! A word of caution, don’t elect incoherent unintelligent morons like Dana to represent the few who still don’t think for themselves. You’d be surprised what a little thinking can get you.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Fierce anon is fierce.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:03 am
David Motari Is a looser not at all what the Marines is about. My son is a Real Marine 2/7. I wish my son could meet up with David Motari to kick the living shit out of him. David Motari is a discrace to the U.S.M.C and to our great country. I sure hope the United States Marine Corps punishes this no good low life M*****F***** to the fullest extent of the law. He does not derserve to ware the uniform or represent our country. David Motari I hope you pay for this for the rest of your sorry life. I hope you loose every thing that is dear to you. I will personaly post everything I can find out about your sorry ass on every website I can. Most websites have taken the video down I will repost it on every website possiable.Here is a link to see this peice of shit in action.
http://poststuff5.entensity.ne.....=puppy.wmv.
David Motari We all hope you rot in hell and you will. Robert Nail. Jonesboro,Ar
March 8th, 2008 at 10:33 am
think this was sick and that guy should of been shot at
March 8th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
The guy looks like a cop.
That’s probably what he will become after getting out of the Corps.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
you guys are freaking out about a dead puppy, but i dont see any comments about all the abortions and murders that happen every day. get your priorities straight!
March 8th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I agree, asdf. And some on here seem to idolize the “founding fathers” and the framers of the constitution. Abortion existed when the constitution was written, and they had a chance to outlaw it. But they didn’t. Now look what we have. In Amerikkka abortion is not only legal, but is enshrined as a “right”.
The Republicans used to talk about wanting to add a pro-life amendment to the constitution, but what have they done toward that end? Absolutely nothing. They don’t even mention it anymore. It was all for show. Such a thing should have been part of the constitution to begin with. Even if it was later repealed, at least we would know what the original intent was. Of course, legalized slavery was okay by them too.
March 8th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
When I said “them” in that last sentence, I was referrring to the founding fathers and the framers of the constitution.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
“However, after watching the video on YouTube, it certainly appears the puppy was alive prior to Motari’s sadistic stunt.”
really? it doesn’t appear that way to me. what makes you or anyone 100% certain it was alive? the people saying that the dog is “prone” or “slack” because that’s how pups go when grabbed by their mothers aren’t really paying enough attention. look closer and you’ll see that its legs and tail do not move at all, as in, they do not even dangle freely as they will when they’re alive. it has rigor mortis. it’s already dead.
and this whole thing has made fools out of millions of believers.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
nephesh you obviously don’t know a lot about dogs. when you hold a puppy by the scruff of it’s neck it doesn’t let it’s feet and tail dangle completely limp. it is quite common, especially if it is scared, for puppies to put their tails between there legs and kind of curl as this dog in the video did. puppies don’t commonly move when in this position, it’s more or less an instinct to them to stay still when picked up like this because normally it is the mother doing it, not some piece of shit marine. maybe before you go making claims that it’s fake blah blah blah you should do a little research.
March 9th, 2008 at 1:18 am
HASSAN AL-FAROUQ you must be some pathetic moron. That believes in dumb shit teachings that dont allow u to touch dog… Well… U are the REAL SHIT and NOISE maker.. U terrorist.
March 9th, 2008 at 1:22 am
Nepesh, if you watch closely, you can see it pull up it’s hindlegs and it’s yelps get quieter after it’s thrown. The puppy was alive; Motari really did kill the dog and even admitted it.
March 9th, 2008 at 1:23 am
Lin Says:
March 9th, 2008 at 1:18 am
HASSAN AL-FAROUQ you must be some pathetic moron. That believes in dumb shit teachings that dont allow u to touch dog… Well… U are the REAL SHIT and NOISE maker.. U terrorist.
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Thanks for helping us with the punch line. Are you two gonna be a new ashkenazi vaudville sensation?
March 9th, 2008 at 4:02 am
well people arent talking about abortion and murder because those things will never stop, if u made abortion illegal it would still be done but in an even more unsafe way than it is now. murder is illegal but guess what, its still done…. even if the puppy is alive or dead, still a sick video to watch, all i know is the guy admitted to it…. saying it was real, so im pretty sure ill take his word for it, see’s how he was there and he threw the cute lil sob.
March 9th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Hassan – You also believe in stoning your women to death after you rape her so we don’t expect much from a barbarian like yourself – maybe when you come back in your next life you will have the honor of returning as a dog – surely you cannot go any lower than where you are today.
Xochitl
ps – better yet I hope you return as my husband and I will teach you how women and dogs should be teated – after I stick my foot up your ass a thousand times!
March 9th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Somebody used the name “Hassan” to provoke Islamophobia.
Dont be suckered into it.
March 9th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Anon – I understand that you don’t care for the military. But, please don’t say that you know all marines are evil. You are seriously mistaken, if that’s what you believe.
My family has a rich history of military service from the Marines, Navy, and Army. All of those in my family who have served, from WWII up, all maintained honorable service records.
Some of my closest friends are Marines.
You don’t know any of these people, and yet you label them as monsters. They are not monsters. They are not evil.
Yeah, there are those in the military who lose it – or who are by nature disgusting, but they are only a small portion of a very vast military. Unfortunately they stand out a lot more than the honorable soldiers. You don’t often hear about the heroic acts of the honorable soldiers, in the military – not unless it was an extreme act of heroism. No, you only get to hear about the atrocities that the broken, or perverted soldiers participate in.
Don’t go labeling people when you don’t even know them.
March 9th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Well, it seems DoesntMatter has stepped up to the plate. Unfortunately, I regret to say “Strike 1.” You speak coherently and WOULD have presented a valid argument. However, without proof of what you claim, you haven’t succeeded in the challenge I’ve presented. While you do seem intelligent, and have made clear and concise statements, you haven’t given me anything to back it up. I have a video; hard proof. You simply tell me about your family and that’s that. If there truly are good marines, then people like you who wave your little flags at naysayers like me would make it a point to find the proof. See, in my case, it’s right there, given to me by the same group your “honorable” relatives are in. I didn’t have to search for it, your side gave it to me freely. And yes, there are marines that lose it, it’s called completed training. So prove to me that not all marines are bad. Everytime I see something about them it’s always rape, murder, animal cruelty, and the like. Each of them backed by hard evidence, not just my word alone.
March 9th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
This beast deserves the same fate as the puppy and I’d like to administer it. Brave, brave soldier.
March 9th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
hey, can i throw this so called man over a cliff? how big of a man do you have to be to kill an innocent puppy? i hope he rots in he**
March 9th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Gotta love the internets for witch hunts. I’ve been following the story at http://www.davidmotari.net and they have claimed admissions of guilt and stuff there too.
March 9th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
I just don’t understand why people hate military service men and women and the people that support them. I’m a bugler for honor guards, and I’m just so sick of people talking crap about this country where they take for granted the fact that they actually have the freedom to do so! I’m just so sick of those Bush bashing, funeral protesters, flag burners, and people who treat vets like crap! Be thankful for your freedom for once! Freedom isn’t free!As for the baby being thrown off the cliff, I don’t know if that’s real, but there’s bad people ever where you go, and just because of one person, we’re all not bad! I mean, would you people react the same way if it was a civilian that did this? Come on! Military members aren’t perfect! They’re humans too! And no, I don’t condon animal abuse in anyway, I volunteer at animal orphanages all the time and am a cat parent. Marines are not all bad! It was a few individuals, and the media just trys to dig up whatever they can to make our servicemen look bad. If it was a case of cruelty, believe me, this guy’s commanding officers will promptly administer punishment to him, but stop blaming the military!
Proud parent of a beautiful cat baby.
I love the USA Semper Paratus, Semper Fi, and Hooah!
March 9th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
U SUCK DAVID M HOPE U DIE AND GO TO HEELLLLL!!!!
March 9th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Strike 2 HonorGuardBugler. Getting angry at us because we’re angry at the people responsible for this won’t make us suddenly as stupid as you flag-wavers. And apparently the cost of freedom is paid with innocent blood. Abu Ghraib, and now this. Truly our boys in uniform are fighting the good fight. Perhaps the media is “digging up” bad stuff about servicemen to open your eyes. Although the term digging up is used loosely here, as it’s not like it’s hard to find this stuff. And again, we know there’s bad people everywhere you go. Seriously, if that’s the best you guys can do then you’ve already lost against us. You might as well start using your own mind and not blindly following orders. So far the most intelligent thing I’ve read on any site came from DoesntMatter, and still proof wasn’t given.
Let me put this into perspective for the lesser minded of you. (AKA all of the ones defending the murderers)
You guys constantly mention honor. Guess what-so does the other side. They kill themselves or die killing the us soldiers, thereby bringing “honor” to THEIR side. They say the EXACT same things you do. So who’s right? Is it you because you’re an american? They would say no. However, should I ask if they were right, what would you say? You’d get pissed at me for even bringing it up and going against everything you’re told to believe, and fervently answer with a resounding “yes!” But they would say no. Is the only way to prove you’re right to kill everyone who disagrees? I guess it’s not about who’s right, it’s about who’s left. The remaining side is obviously right because there’s nobody to contest them.
So if someone were to kill all the flag-waving drones, and all that was left were people like me who detest all military killers, and know what’s really going on, then obviously we’re right. Understand, or at least try to, that I’m using the same “logic” all of you will use SHOULD we win this war.
One thing still puzzles me. People use the term “dishonerable discharge.” Who cares about HOW you get discharged, wouldn’t the important thing be that you’re no longer the government’s bitch? Wouldn’t you get to go home, and finally sleep in your own bed, and be able to spend time with the people you love? Wait, he wouldn’t be able to mercilessely kill anyone without going to jail for it, nevermind my questions.
March 9th, 2008 at 10:29 pm
HonorGuardBugler … you are a fucking idiot.
The fact that you sit there and condone this shit is nuts. It’s obvious you possess the minimal intellect of David Motari yourself since your comment is wrought with misspellings and grammatical errors. You’re just as big an idiot as David is.
You say “I mean, would you people react the same way if it was a civilian that did this?” like you think this guy is taking heat because he’s in the military: YOU’RE FUCKING RIGHT. He’s supposed to be protecting our country and setting a fucking example and you explain away his heinous behavior by saying “oh, he’s human too”. You’d best hope that finding out where you live is harder than finding out where Mr. Motari’s family lives — I’d love to see you burn for it you worthless piece of shit.
March 9th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Yeah, The Puppy Thing was just totally Un-Cool……..Period.
March 9th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
He is a sick bastard. I’m beyond a dog lover and if this was a real scenario, I hope he rots in hell.
March 9th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
AnimalRights, I understand why you’re so angry. But keep in mind that they all use that tired line. They all ask us if we’d get just as upset if it were a civilian. Either that or they try to bring up things that are completely unrelated to the conversation. So far they can’t prove anything about these fabled “good” military personnel. Granted, it’s difficult for murderers to be portrayed as anything but bad, so you’ve nothing to fear. We’ve proven the heartlessness and cruelty of the armed services, and there’s obviously nobody with the brains to show us we’re wrong. Dana, DoesntMatter, and HonorGuardBugler have all tried and failed. Personally I find it funny that none of them can get more creative than HonorGuardBugler, (seriously, you guys are broken records. I know you can’t think for yourself, but come on!) and to some extent Dana. (Animal Cops Houston, futile as it was, still made me chuckle) Although I must admit, DoesntMatter got a few points for originality. The friends and family story was a nice touch, albeit one without merit.
March 9th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
The puppy was sad enough, because dogs trust humans, have emotions, and feel pain – but seeing that down-home-redneck skinhead soldier calling that precious child UGLY made me want to hang him. And making them run after the only clean water they were likely to see in months? Shooting civilians and hooting about it like it was a video game? SICKENING.
I’ve seen hundreds and hundreds of videos depicting our troops performing crime, after crime, after crime. Old Glory is in tatters. Uncle Sam is hanging his head low.
My only hope is that someone creates a compilation of all of these videos and puts them on DVD. I’d burn hundreds of copies and hand them out to everyone I know.
MY TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING USED TO SHOOT CIVILIANS, ABUSE CHILDREN, AND BLOW UP DOGS AND CATS! I EARNED THAT MONEY!
March 10th, 2008 at 2:08 am
here anon heres your fucking proof. im putting it right in your face so u have no excuses. man im so sick of your shallow minded retarded ass. how ignorant do you have to be to think that all service members are like this guy. i am a marine who is also a husband and the father of a baby girl and im not going around killing everything in sight and i never would. i go to work do my job and come home to my family like MILLIONS of other americans do everyday, and never have a second thought about it. so heres your proof of our good deeds. you can go to youtube and look up the same stuff. now shut the hell up
http://images.google.com/image.....&gbv=2
March 10th, 2008 at 4:16 am
LIKE THIS VIDEO SAYS!
“THIS TIME AROUND YOU CAN SAVE YOUR SPIT, CAUSE YOUR LOCAL SENATE IS THE ONE WHO NEEDS IT!”
Not all Soldiers are Puppy Killers!
So don’t use one soldiers actions to classify them all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5VfJ-mKBXM
March 10th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Well, actually – my point of view does have merit. The trick is trying to convince you that it does. To anybody else who sees where I’m coming from, my argument makes sense to them. It makes sense to them, because they can put themselves in my shoes, and see through my eyes, for the most part.
Now here is a question for you. How does one proceed to convince another about something, if that person refuses see the proof, even if it is presented to them? I’m not even talking about you at this point, because as far as I can tell – perhaps you really are looking for some proof. If that’s the case, the second somebody gives you some hard, undeniable proof – perhaps you’ll be able to accept it for what it is.
How about other people though, who are even more anti-troops/war than you? How does one proceed to convince them. Forgive me for this, but – if they can’t see past their own prejudices and beliefs – then they’re never going to be able to accept proof we provide them, when they see it. Just like those of us who support either the troops, and/or the war cannot see past our prejudices against anti-war folk, and our beliefs. There in-lies the problem. Some people are so deeply ingrained in their beliefs and their prejudices that they cannot see the other side of the picture even when it’s right in front of them.
So again I ask – how would I go about proving to you or anybody else – that what I say is true? I personally only have the words of my grandfathers, my uncles and aunts, and my closest friends to go on. Personally, based on what I’ve learned about them through my life-time, they were telling me the truth about their adventures. I don’t have video proof of their military action, but I sincerely believe that they earned their honorable retirements.
I cannot prove this to anybody who refuses to believe me based on the fact that I cannot produce my facts through video.
My second question is, will one video or written document actually prove that not all military service men and women are not evil? Or, will it give you or anybody else the ability to say – “Oh, that’s just a fluke,” or “that’s only one person out of many, so they are all still evil…” Will one video actually prove anything? If it wont, then what is the point in trying?
Going back to my first point – if one person refuses to believe something, then another person cannot change that first person’s mind. It’s almost impossible.
So this all summed up – is it even worth my time to try to prove to you or anybody else, something that I personally know to be true; that not all service-men and women are evil, corrupted… etc .. etc? Will all my attempts to “prove” myself to you or anybody else be cut to shreds? If the answer to that last question is yes, then this conversation between you and I has reached it’s end.
March 10th, 2008 at 10:41 am
here’s your proof, I’m afraid not. Pictures are useless against video. Words do nothing, so get as angry as you want. I have no way of knowing exactly what’s going on in those pictures, nothing moves. For all I know they could have doctored up their ration deliveries. There’s a video link up there as well, funny enough, it’s all just pictures and some song I didn’t care to listen to. Pictures aren’t proof, anything could be happening. They only capture an instant, and don’t say much for what happened even a second before or after. Whereas in the video, we see him pull back and hurl a defenseless animal over a cliff. But you know what, I’m done. I’ve given ample time for anyone who wanted to prove me wrong. And it wouldn’t have changed my opinion, but it would have made you guys look better, and believe me, you need that. You lost, we won. It seems all you people bawwing about how I or the rest of the anti-war people are being unfair to your murderous “heros” can’t actually do anyting to defend them. DoesntMatter, our conversation was done until you got me proof, I don’t care to learn about your relatives, they earned their “honor” by killing. They’re murderers who get to wear shiny metal badges for it, and that makes me sick to my stomach. Of course they’re gonna tell you all these good things, they know what the truth will do to you, and your mind belongs to the government. Back to here’s your proof. You see that key down there underneath enter? If you can’t there’s also one under caps lock. It should have the word “shift” on it. By pressing and holding that key down (pretend it’s a gun aimed at some innocent defenseless girl you just raped) and at the same time pressing down on a letter you get a capital version of it. Like this. a (no shift) A (shift held down). You see, in the english language, all sentences begin with a capital letter. I’m glad you found it for the word millions, although that was probably caps lock that did that. Try it, you’ll at least look smarter. And as for you being just like the rest of the MILLIONS (yay caps lock!) of americans who are just doing their job, no you’re not. I go to work everyday, and am never required to murder to get my paycheck. Truth is, you guys took the only career whose job description is “Kill anyone and anything in your way. Do it as painfully as possible. Feel no remorse.” And another thing, you’re a military man, yet you seem to let your anger get the best of you. Intelligent debate requires keeping it in check. They must have trained you really well if you can’t control your anger for one simple post. Thank you for proving that not only are all military personnel cold, ruthless killing machines, but that they also can’t control their anger, and are therefore extremely dangerous. I say all because I’ve never seen anything to the contrary. For some reason nobody wanted to offer any kind of valid argument. So just quit talking, you’re not contributing anything except more fuel for my fire, and I have more than enough right now thank you.
So in summation, everybody in the military is a cold, unfeeling, remorseless, ruthless murderer who rapes and then kills little 14 year old girls (and boys I’m sure), and throws defenseless animals over cliffs to pass the tides of boredom. This has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. No longer an “unfair” prejudice, it has become fact.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
The least this Motari person could have done is kill it humanely. Don’t freakin toss it like a ball! A puppy is not heavy, and I’m sure he could have managed the two extra pounds that poor thing weighed to take it on his way back and drop it off with a village child, or something. Throwing it like he did on the video was cruel and heartless.
March 10th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
I am trying to figure out why you want proof to see that not all military is bad, but you don’t need proof you already have shown everyone around that you already made your choice in life to hate all military men and women. I could sit here all day and read these responses to what everyone has to say because they don’t have a life of their own. ANON (look by holding the shift key) I don’t feel any smarter. Let’s try and figure this out about telling us that we can’t control our anger when in-fact you also are getting anger just from a response, so don’t try and tell us that we can’t control ours if you can’t even control yours. WOW (held shift again) and don’t even try and talk about intelligence when you are lacking that much of it.
March 10th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
You don’t need proof, etc, etc.-it seems you have misinterpreted my lack of caring as anger. I haven’t posted in anger except the first few times when I had just got done watching the video. I can tell by your post you’re still fuming. And insulting someone who has presented a challenge you can’t accept knowing you’ll fail at it=intelligence? Knowing that this has gotten you so worked up has brought a smile to my face, because again, I’m right about military men and women. And you’re right as well, proof won’t change my mind, I would instantly write it off. Think of this as an experiment. You flag-waving feeble-minded drones are constantly bawwing to people like me who disagree.
“You don’t know the circumstances!”
“Not all marines are bad!”
“We owe these guys our freedom!”
“The field of battle does things to you!”
It’s all the same. Frankly I’m tired of hearing the same thing over and over like some broken record. So I gave you the chance to actually make an argument instead of “america is good u bad cause you don’t agree!!!!11″
Your proof won’t help you in any way, for every video you didn’t find there’s dozens of different ones my side can use. I just wanted to see if you could produce something to back up your claims.
You didn’t.
In america that means only one thing-you’re wrong. I know you’re gonna keep worshipping these guys, these so called “heros” who kill and murder. Now we all know the entire thing is full of shit, just like all our patriots. All because you couldn’t find a single video showing an act of kindness from a cruel heartless killer.
If you want to keep arguing, You don’t need proof…, go ahead. But keep your anger in check. You can call me every name under the sun and all I’ll do is laugh. I would caution against making a fool of yourself, but it would be two posts too late. Just remember you’re not over there, you can’t just kill anything and everything you see anymore.
March 11th, 2008 at 2:20 am
If you are one to judge the men and women of the military, who fight and die for your freedom to post your thoughts and words on the internet without fear of reprecussion, then I would reccommend you walk down to your local recruiting office and enlist in some sort of service. I personnally believe that Isreal has it right by having ever member of that country serve for a minimal term in their military, giving them a perspective on the life that the individuals of the military must endure. We do not have the same freedoms that civilians do. We are not allowed to do what we want, when we want, and how we want. We go through the hardest challenges and the most physically demanding events one can go through in a life time. So those of you who haven’t been there, haven’t felt the heat of an explosion wrap around your vehicle, the snap of a bullet as it zips by your skull, stop trying to understand. You never will, not until you sign the dotted line and execute (probably your first) true commitment.
March 11th, 2008 at 3:30 am
boo hoo hoo, the poor troops! did you people or did you not sign up for the military? You are volunteers! If you didnt know what you were getting into, what did you think was going to happen? Buncha idiots.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:09 am
anon,
March 11th, 2008 at 6:10 am
anon,
Does your girlfriend/boyfriend know that he/she is dating a pussy?
March 11th, 2008 at 6:11 am
melissa,
People like you lost the Vietnam War. Thank you. Idiot.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:13 am
Outraged like everyone else,
When is the last time you hiked 10+ miles in 110 degree heat? Enjoy your latte, freak.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:18 am
Poor College Student,
I am the Commander of a unit with hundreds of automatic weapons in my vault and several vehicles in my motor pool. I guess since I’m a murderer I should just grab a few of my buddies and some of my SAWs and shoot your college straight the fuck up to hippie heaven. Sounds like fun for next Friday night. Good thing I’m actually NOT a murderer nor are any of my troops and we would never do such a thing in this country or any other. Shut the fuck up and stick to what you know. That goes to you too, anon.
March 11th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Look at me, I’m a murderer!!!
Just like the babykillers in Vietnam!!
I guess we murderers should have stayed out of Korea too.
Hell, why did we bother going into Germany in WWI? They didn’t bother us. It was just a Japanese attack on a base full of MURDERERS!!
What business did we have in WWI for that matter? Unrestricted submarine warfare was just Germany’s response to our supplying the murdering British. We should have minded our own business.
I guess we can look at the Civil War as the greatest event in American History since it was nothing but murderers killing each other off. We got rid of a lot of murderers during that four years, let me tell ya.
You fucking fatass Obama-loving armchair quarterbacks crack me up. Can’t we all just get along??? Yeah, right. Anyone remember the beheading videos of INNOCENT NON-SOLDIER AMERICANS????
March 11th, 2008 at 10:07 am
Dana, it’s not so much that the people we go to war against have committed crimes against us – but that we retaliated.
People who are anti-war are never going to see that our own American innocents have died needlessly, by the hands of foreigners. In fact, some anti-war people go as far as to justify the killing of our own citizens – because of the things we as Americans have done.
I don’t agree with that stance one bit. Sure, personally – I’d rather there not be war. It’s annoying, troublesome, deadly (duh), and all-round (in my opinion) pointless. Why should the innocent, whether they be American, Middle Eastern, Russian, Asian, African…etc, suffer what they do because of war? They shouldn’t have to suffer that, but they do. They do because wars are pretty much inherent, and ceaseless.
That said, I’d defend this country in an instant, and without second thought or regrets. I’d stand by your side, and by the sides of my friends who are currently enlisted in different branches of the military – and do what it took to defend my family, and my country, in a time of need.
So my stance? I dislike war, greatly – but I’d participate in it in order to defend the innocent.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Dana’s back, and dumber than ever. Sorry guys but you just dropped a few notches, and you were at the bottom already. But at least you realized your a murderous monster now, the healing process can begin. I gotta say, your responses have made my day, and I’ve only been up an hour now. And like Melissa said, you signed up of your own free will. Anything that happens to you is your own fault, cause you are in fact a volunteer. Did you think you’d go over there and rape children without resistance? For every soldier or marine that dies, the world becomes a safer place, because there’s one less killer that’s coming home. And as for sticking to what I know Dana, I KNOW all military personnel are killers without emotion or remorse. Wanna know what’s really sad? It was always those same people who gave me the videos to prove I’m right. So not only are you all murderers who should all not come home, but you’re stupid enough to videotape it and post it on the internet for all to see. Since Dana is in fact incapable of intelligent conversation, and only feels compelled to further show the stupidity (and therefore danger) of a trained killer in action, I suggest you other enlisted or ex-enlisted somehow get her to stop talking. But since your public image is nothing but shit now anyway, does it really matter.
Oh, one more thing Dana.
If the adage “you are what you eat” is true, then yes, I’m a giant walking vagina. What can I say? Pussy is the greatest flavor in the world!
Stupid marine is stupid.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:43 am
I’ve Been There, when you signed up, what did you expect would happen? Like Melissa said, you signed up, so you deserve whatever you get. And as for walking a mile in your shoe, no thanks. My life is far too important for me to throw it away for some country filled with zombies who don’t have a thought in their head, save for the ones the government tells them to have. Plus, unlike you and all your co-killers, I have a heart, and I couldn’t bring myself to rape and then kill a 14 year old girl. I just couldn’t do it. I’d feel remorse, which is something you need to look into. How many people have you killed? That question goes for you too Dana. How many people have you killed? How many children are going to come home and find out they don’t have a daddy anymore? All because you’re a bitch to the government.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:52 am
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Dana Says:
March 11th, 2008 at 6:13 am
Outraged like everyone else,
When is the last time you hiked 10+ miles in 110 degree heat? Enjoy your latte, freak.
HAVE YOU TAKEN YOUR POST IRAQ WAR PILL TODAY ?
March 11th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Is it poverty that drives people to enlist in the army? Is it the thrill they await to freshen up their lives? The chance for escape from own ”boring” existence? Or something else that you could have learned by simply watching Platoon or Apocalypse Now?
And then when you come home, it’s hard to adjust to something that you never felt comfortable with. Not to mention that armed conflict changes an individual. How many of the soldiers can supress their PTSD withot heavy medication/drugs? It’s not your fault, yeah, you were just following orders. Too bad that your generals didnt tell you killing in wartime is still murder. Too bad they weren’t there to take up arms and charge with you.
You should have just settled for war movies on the big screen, let the rich bleed for their own greedy interests. NO war that happens now is for a just cause, unless you’re fighting for survival. And Iraq and other fronts of battle where for decades they sent armadas of poor young soldiers to witness horrors they couldn’t handle- it’s just not worth it. Cheers to all the high commanders, you’re on the war crime list once Nürnberg trials are repeated.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:40 am
This is a tragic event. Not only for the puppy, but for our military, our country, and human kind. I’m not sure why people think because violence exists one place, that it makes it OK or even understandable for it to exist in another place. One brutal action will never justify another. http://www.idausa.org
March 11th, 2008 at 11:45 am
It’s really humorous to me to read all the nonsense from people like all of you. My name is Dana and I’m a murderer (Even though I’ve been deployed twice and never killed a human being).
Let’s imagine the world for a second without the U.S. Military:
1) Pakistan and India would have destroyed each other already through a nuclear exchange with technology they *didn’t* learn from the U.S.
2) Afghanistan would be the religious center of a global Caliphate with Al Qaeda as the ruling clergy covering all of Europe and Asia.
3) Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea? No. China and her puppets.
4) Freedom of the seas? Nope.
5) Anyone remember Libya? Probably not, but that’s a good thing thanks to the U.S. military.
6) Space program? Nope.
7) Aerospace technology? Military.
The list goes on, but hate away. No one can convince you otherwise, and why would anyone want to? Who really gives a fuck what you think? You’re powerless to change anything about it. If I actually was the murderer you claim I am, what are you going to do about it? Sit there and cry like the little bitch you are. Don’t worry, I’ll do what’s necessary to make sure that you and every other spoiled little cry-bitch has the right to badmouth me. I’ll put my life on the line to make sure all the Iraqis can argue over Sunni-Shiite-Kurd bullshit instead of cooperating just so idiots like you can blame it on me. I’ll continue to take the rape and pillage accusations and wear them like a badge of pride knowing that I can look myself in the mirror and you obviously can’t. You obviously have a problem looking at yourself in the mirror because you freely badmouth others at your choosing regardless of the facts. That stinks of a low self esteem, which you are more than entitled to. Hide behind that computer screen and know that even if I had a gun to your head and no one was watching I would still protect your sorry ass. Guess I’m just being dumb again.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Dana….nobody asked you. I didn’t ask you. But I guess if my Gov had manipulted and lied to me as much , and I was gullable enough to believe the hype and stain my soul , I’d turn it around on people too. I admit and face everything I’ve ever done. But I never , from the time I learned about the world and who runs it now , never put faith in ANYMAN OR GOVERNMENT to do ANYTHING for me. 38 years on the planet , and every indication is I made the right choice. If you’re pissed about your choices , go write yourself a letter , then burn it. Works better than throwing sludge at people NOT so easily manipulated.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
And , yeah , I live by Jesus’s advice , turn the other cheek , let him sin against me not seven , but seventy times. The whole fight in life is not to lower yourself based on what someone else is doing to you. Others can be jerks , assholes , murderes , rapists , slanderers , doesn’t matter. They are that. You and your government are guilty of lowering yourselves and your standards as human beings. And yes , you use ( like in your rant) examples of bad things others do. Great and dandy , but when you lower yourself , YOU LOOSE , not others. You stain your soul. Fighting for someone else’s beliefs and moral (free sex , free choice , free false religions) doesn’t make you a great human , the fight to keep your morals and standards (concern,care , love)and remaining free of bloodguilt , THAT makes a great human. A strong person is willing to die for another , a weak person is a fighting coward. Come kill me , I won’t fight. But you won’t win.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Yep, you can say that because someone already made it safe for you to live that way. You’re welcome, enjoy your McDonald’s.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Well Dana, it seems that not only are you still showing us what an angry little killer you are, but now apparently are imagining my death by your hands via a gun to the head. How would you protect me from yourself. You’re trained to kill by a government that controls you. Since you can’t run away from that fact you instead feel the false pride you claim to wear. I appreciate you worrying about my self-esteem, but it’s just fine thank you. I look at myself in the mirror and see someone whose hands aren’t stained with the blood of innocent people. Someone who isn’t a raping pedophile. I can look at people and say “I haven’t killed anybody in my entire life, and I don’t need severe medication to readjust to a society where killing is illegal.”
By the way, you might want to up your dosage. Remember, in america it’s illegal to kill, and you’re obviously an angry and disturbed killer. Maybe you should find a permanent place over there so you don’t put any of us in danger of your career.
March 11th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Murder is always a mistake. One should never do anything that one cannot talk about after dinner.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
The Satanic American government has done many things , but make us feel safe?????? Nyat!!!Mabye when you go to sleep , but not me. Every stress I’ve lived comes directly from your Governments manipulating the last century , and now this one. You have terrorized the world into submission to U.S. supremacy….you call that saving. Wouldn’t want a present from you. Probably be a turd in a wrapped box with you telling me your Government said its natural and good for me. By the way , look back , Canadians take care of themselves…….or MIND THEIR BUSINESS. No -one is pissed at Canada. There’s a reason for that. We try to be constructive , not destructive. That’s the ‘American Way!!!’.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Hey retard, look:
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
Now you have someone else to badmouth
March 11th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Forces
Is this how Canada minds its own business luggnutz?
March 11th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
I don’t agree at all with the guy throwing the puppy off the cliff regardless of whether or not it was fake, dead, real… It was wrong on many many levels. But that doesn’t give you guys the right to disrespect the US military. Without the military our lives would be VERY VERY different. Maybe you guys should look into what life is like for people in Iraq, Africa, and many other areas that aren’t nearly as lucky as we are to have the protection that we have. If you are so against our government and the people that have allowed us to live FREELY (those in the military), maybe you should just GET OUT. This is coming from someone that is NOT in the military. AND thanks Dana for serving OUR country.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Dana. When patriots kill to defend the Constitution they are “murderers”.
When christians defend their property from government tyranny they are “cultists” and “anti government extremists”.
When soldiers and law enforcement blindly obey ANY ORDERS without question from the chain of command yanked by the eye at the top of the pyramid they are:
“Heroes”, “Liberators”, “public servants”, and “Defenders of freedom and democracy”.
And when they kill people it’s called “Termination”, “containment”, “protecting the public”, “Self defense”, and “liberation”.
HYPOCRISY AT IT’S FINEST
“Some people are so totally dependant on the matrix, they will literally fight to protect it.”
March 11th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
I never said our leaders aren’t sick. Last few thing to go down , we got dragged in by U.S. saying we don’t support you’s enough. One leader , Chretien told you’s to go to hell , do it yourselves. But now we have a lapdog named Harper to make sure we get tasered as much as you’s. But yeah , the whole reason you guys have to pull us in is because we took the words ‘Never Again’ to heart , not turn with an evil eye and say ‘Who’s next!’ , like you guys. Besides that , the world sits in Satan’s hand , so I don’t have anymore faith in my Gov than I do in yours. They all kiss Satan’s ass. ANd just now , they’ll all be gone….forever! Thank you , Jehovah.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Wow, do you even realize you’re a freak?
March 11th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
The U.S military has disrespected every form of life on this planet. About all I can agree on is the manipulation by the higher ups who know what their ‘True Agenda’ is , which they never tell the grunts. If they were told they are going to sow contention and bitterness to secure oil wells , nobody would fight their fight. But each individual makes his/her choices and must answer for them alone. And I agree the world would be different. If George’s grandfather , Prescott Bush had gotten his wish , this shit would have went down in the 40’s , billions would already dead , and the remaining would be in slave camps right now with the Elite convinced they had done us all some great favour.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
I’m FREAKALICIOUS!!
March 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
KayT and Dana. I don’t know what planet your from, but here,
THE CONSTITUTION IS THE LAW. Not slick politicians from secret societies.
Dana took an oath to defend the Constitution. SO WHY ARE YOU VIOLATING THAT OATH?
US politicians believe that TORTURE is “open for debate”- violates 8th amendment (and 4-10)
US politicians believe that GUN RIGHTS are “open for debate”- violates 2nd amendment
US politicians believe that SHAKE DOWNS are “open for debate”- violates 4th amendment
US politicians believe that SPYING ON CITIZENS is “open for debate”- 4th amendment
US politicians believe that FEMA CAMPS are good for American citizens
???executive order #11000 signed by Clinton, also #10995-12919
Do you want to “debate” my Constitutional rights with me?
Military or not, i’m a logger/fisherman and i’ll shove your heads up your asses.
We DO NOT appreciate the efforts of brain dead stormtroopers who blindly follow orders.
The only thing the US military is protecting lately is the destruction of the Constitution, US sovereignty, and the Satanic encroachment of the UN globalist agenda.
I have personally been to Ranger barracks many times in Fort Lewis WA.
On the walls in huge letters they have quotes from men like Ghengis Khan prasing and glorifying acts of rape and murder.
The soldiers are also forced to sing cadences making fun of “bashing babies brains in” and “shooting up schoolyards”.
This is NOT our soldiers fault. It’s these evil politicians who are ENEMIES of the Constitution.
WAKE UP.
911 inside job 100% provable fact. Google video “Terrorstorm”, and “loose change 2nd edition”.
Also, “911 press for truth”. Alex Jones “Police State” series.
The info is there. http://www.patriotsquestion911.com
And the general who commanded ALL of our NATO forces in Europe, knows a hell of alot more about you guys than 911. Check it out yourselves. http://www.patriotsquestion911.com
He’s the first guy in the “senior military” section.
WAKE UP
March 11th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Someone once said,and still says-ye must be born again. In that I must agree and remember-he/she who endures to the end will be SAVED! I didn’t make up those words.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
536 No Dana. A “freak” is an idiot with a machine gun who blindly obeys orders given by men from secret societies.
A “freak” murders civilians and animals and calls it “liberation”, while he secures revenues for counterfeiters like the Rothschilds and the oil mafias that thug for them.
A “freak” has absolutely no clue about the Bill of Rights.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
OK, tell you what. Next time you have adisaster or emergency don’t bother calling on the National Guard because we are too busy violating the Constitution, murdering, raping, and pillaging.
Go ahead and bring up Katrina. The local politicians and civilian agencies were the ones violating the Constitution and the citizens themselves were raping and pillaging. What was the military doing? Saving people.
Gabriel, you have one source, and I’ve seen it. Not that believeable.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
OOOH!!! Now thats FREAKALICIOUS!!!
March 11th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Nah , the freaks raping and pillaging in New Orleans were your Blackwater freinds. You know , the bottom of the barrel they send in when you ‘Soldiers’ can’t get the job done for the elite. Without Katrina and the Military ‘Clean Up’ , the Gov would still have to think about how to get rid of SO many of you. Your little ‘forget them….then shoot them’ assistance cleaned up alot for the agenda. Shave a couple off the 6 billion , eh?
March 11th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Doesn’t hurt that most were black too , eh???
March 11th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
No Dana. What’s “unbelievable”, is that politicians can rape and destroy our Constitution and yet still fools like yourself bury your head in the sand FOR A FUCKING PAYCHECK.
We don’t need your “big brother” orwellian protection. And if you try to confiscate my guns for ANY REASON, i’ll gladly give you the bullets first- between your eyes.
And yeah fuckhead, people tend to riot when they haven’t had food or medicine for 4 days. If you knew ANYTHING, you would know that FEMA actually turned away people who wanted to help. If you continue to choose to live in denial and be brain dead, so be it.
Just remember, patriots are getting wise to the bullshit. And your odds of survival should you come against us are diminishing with each passing day.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
luggnutz, you really are an idiot. If you honestly think my “Blackwater friends” were the ones terrorizing people in New Orleans you have an awesome imagination. I’ve had enough fun with this thread to last me the rest of the day. This really is hilarious.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
You’re right, Gabriel, the government should have just stayed out of Katrina. That would have made things soooooooo much better. Retard.
March 11th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
They did stay out of Katrina you blithering village idiot, FOR FOUR FUCKING DAYS.
Just enough time to create panic and looting out of hunger and desparation.
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING? DO YOU?
March 11th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Furthermore you bumbling buffoon, a construction worker at the leveys gave a live interview to news reporters stating that the leveys would not hold in a hurricane-
2 full years before Katrina. And the government had been repeatedly notified of this.
But that doesn’t really fit into the governments land confiscation, and chaotic citizen displacement agenda. ORDO DE CHAO is succeeding thanks to an overflow of trusting morons like you Dana. Never mind. Just load up your machine gun and do whatever your sarge tells you.
“Your left. Your left. Your left, right, left……..”
March 11th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I know that the Louisiana government is a corrupt one that delayed the process because they didn’t want to spend State money. That situation was caused by a bunch of greedy non-Federal politicians. DO YOU know anything???
March 11th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
Armchair retard.
March 11th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNat.....0907a.html
March 11th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Good evening, for real. It’s like giving a box of food to a starving blind man, but he can’t open it without reading the instructions.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
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Dana Says:
March 11th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Hey retard, look:
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
Now you have someone else to badmouth
And that has what to do with this conversation? And besides, peta doesn’t need your help.
Guys, I think I have it figured out. Dana is actually some 14 year old kid whose balls have yet to drop. He can’t stay on the subject, all he does is insult someone who makes a point against him, and has yet to say anything worth listening to. If he is, however, truly an american soldier or marine or whichever killing group he belongs to, then not only are they heartless killing machines with no remorse, but they also possess the intelligence God gave a jar of mayonnaise. Must be why they’re called jarheads. I don’t even bother with his links, because I know they have nothing to do with the topic. Don’t let him sidetrack you about Katrina. That was something else they failed to help with by arriving too late. You can’t expect violent killers to SAVE people can you? And Dana, after spilling so much blood (I don’t believe for a second that you’ve never killed anyone. You’re too angry and retarded, and would do your army so much service if they only gave you a gun.)
March 11th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Well,
I find it somewhat disturbing that all Soldiers, are being depicted as murderer’s in portions of this thread. I spent 5 years, 1 month, and 17 days on active duty in the US ARMY, and my experiences are quite contrary to statement that we are all murderer’s. In 1999 I was in Kosovo and attached to a medical unit, where the majority of our patients were harmed by the opposing faction not us. We provided medical assistance, and even dental assistance to those not fortunate enough to have such luxuries available to them. I was generator mechanic who maintained the generators for this medical unit. I took my job serious enough to where in 5 months, not one of my generators broke down, and when they needed routine maintenance, it was at the convienience of the medical personell, so they could rovide aid to those in need, of all creeds and color.
In any group of people, you will find those that are in need of help from either there fellow man, or from Divine Intervention(to which I am not a subscriber, but also not an enemy).
For those that like to qoute, here is one I heard as a kid from my father…”Noone remembers the good things you have done…Only the mistakes you have made”.
I hope I do not come off as combative, but my grammar, spelling and sentence formation are affected by my being tired, from work, in a society I have very much rejoined….successfully and without incident.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Joe, soldiers are being depicted as murderers because that’s what the job entails. After that, all you people have talked about your “pride.” To put it another way, you have ended another’s life, and are proud of it. Do you know what happens to proud murderer’s here? Do you have any idea the amout of hate we feel toward them? How are soldiers or marines different? Because they’re told to? Because they probably genuinely feel like they’re doing something good? Murder is murder is murder, and it’s also the purpose of the military. You worked at a hospital, and I know for a fact you healed some of these killers. Because of you they were able to keep killing when we were finally gonna be rid of them. You should have let them bleed on the same ground they themselves commited the foul atrocities patriots call “defending our freedom.”
March 11th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
That said Anon – how about the people in other countries who are murdering our own Americans? How about the Americans who go to countries like the Middle-East, to work with the less fortunate – who are murdered simply because they’re American?
And, to keep from limiting it to just Americans, how about the 23 South Korean Christian Missionaries (two of whom were murdered in the name of Allah) who were kidnapped by the Taliban. They were eventually released, of course.
Assuming you don’t believe that 9/11 was all a gigantic conspiracy – what about the thousands of innocents who died on the planes, and in the two towers? All of those men and women had families. Some of the people on those planes hadn’t even begun life yet – they were just children. Innocent infants and children who knew nothing of the heartache of life. Yet, they were murdered ruthlessly, and in cold-blood.
As people who witness these atrocities – what are we supposed to do? Once again, assuming that you don’t believe 9/11 was a conspiracy – should we have just sat back after our people were murdered ruthlessly, and shrugged our shoulders saying “Oh well – shit happens.”
That’s what I don’t get. It’s a lose-lose situation for us. Either we sit back and let people walk all over us, because it’s murder to defend ourselves. Or we retaliate – and once again we’re murderers.
Where do we draw the line? Personally, I much prefer not being stomped all over…
March 11th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
anon,
I guess my confusion lies in several areas. You refrence “our pride” where the only place in my statement that can be concieved as pride, is my ability to maintain a generator, which helped sustain the lives of any and all who sought its help. While that generator may have saved the life of a killer, that killer may have been a national(more than likely actualy). You have also qouted religion saying you live as Jesus lived turning the other cheek(once again, I am not a subscriber), but you say let killers(men/woman) die. Why not help your fellow man, or turn a cheek to his/her misgivings.
I would like to state at this point, anyone who has come into this discussion angry such as Dana is either misguided or gulllible, as I know that words will almost never change ones opinion. Dana’s Passion for speaking and fervent belief in our Military system has crippled her arguement.
Much like you said to her, I am offering you a chance to make a valid arguement against my first post, simply generalizing things at this point will not suffice. While you have often asked for the burden of proof, with video, you have also made the statement that you live a Jesus did, which does not require video, but one’s faith as a fellow human.
My story is true, and I have no video to prove it since I had no camcorder. So am I a killer or do you pull whatever statement is needed to back your arguement. If you simply adapt and manipulate words to suite your needs, you are nothing more than an E-thug, and just as guilty as the government you so ademently oppose.
Once again, I am not sitting behind my computer angry, I am simply having a discussion, thoughts of killing have never crossed my mind.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
I have heard about this all around websites.
I avoided watching it, until now.
I saw the puppy..
and heard it cry out as it was going through the air .
my mouth was open the whole time,
and i could feel my blood run cold.
i will be haunted by this for a long time I believe.
We call them soliders ?
Someone should do somthing.. someone must have power over these people, barley human.
Where did the puppy come from anyhow?!
I will always reamber this.
March 11th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
If this piece of trash treats puppies like this, what did he do to the children in Iraq? How many children has he thrown off a cliff, raped, or murdered for the fun of it? In a country that had NOTHING to do with 9/11!
March 11th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Actually Joe, and this is pretty funny, luggnutz mentioned living as Jesus, but I myself am Christian also. And yes, we do believe to turning the other cheek. Which means that yes, shit happens, but we forgive and then forget.
Let me say I also agree with you on speaking in anger. I can tell by your posting, even the first one, that you aren’t angry, and I didn’t see any concievable pride in it either. And to DoesntMatter, I really don’t care whether 9/11 was a conspiracy, in all honesty it was just a chance to get out of school for the day.
Joe, when I say “your pride,” I merely reference all the marines and ex-marines who claim their pride has been tarnished by Motari’s little stunt. All they’re doing is hoping to keep at least a semblance of the brainwashed populace under their leader’s control.
If I may go back to my first statement, I am a Christian. There are 10 rules I follow, and if you ask me my life is better because of them. There’s one in particular I’d like to point out.
“Thou shalt not kill.”
Jesus taught us about forgiving, and how to tell right from wrong. But it was God Himself that gave us the 10 commandments. Another thing I learned long ago is that those rules mean exactly what they say. It’s not “Thou shalt not kill unless…” it’s “Thou shalt not kill.” Period, end of statement. That’s where my hatred of the military comes from. And it’s not just the american military. If you’ll notice I said all military personnel. That goes for the other armies as well. From day one a soldier is taught to place no value in a human life, they’re trained to kill, and that requires deadening the ability to feel regret, remorse, or really any human emotion. They lose their humanity so they can do their job.
Now let me ask you a question: how can I trust what you say? So far Dana has shown me what military training does, I’ve seen video after video of cruelty not only to animals but to people, and you come along and tell me a nice bedtime story. Should I believe you, a human fully capable of lying, then that would mean I’d have to take everything else at face value too. That means that I’d have to believe there are 3 pigs somewhere that built houses and fended off a wolf. I’d have to be scared of Cthulhu’s return, and scream in terror at the mention of the name Hastur. My point is that without something to back it up, it means nothing. There’s nothing to disprove because nothing was proven in the first place.
Now allow me to quote you in your last post:
“While that generator may have saved the life of a killer, that killer may have been a national(more than likely actualy).” So america is into healing enemies as well? I guess it makes the war last longer in the long run, and they can make even more money off of it. I trust it’s safe to assume that you wouldn’t knowingly help a terrorist, but even then I don’t know the details of the hospital. Where was it? Was it in a town? In the desert? It was in Kosovo, we know that much. What went on in the hospital? How do I know it wasn’t used as a torture chamber in secret? They certainly wouldn’t have told you that part. This is why I’ve asked for cold hard proof. And as I’ve said before, it won’t sway me or anyone else, but at least I won’t be able to say that all military personnel are evil killers.
And yes, I live my life through faith. God and Jesus, even though I can’t see them, are there. They exist. But you want to know something? I’ve seen proof of it. It wasn’t a video, nor was it a picture. I was there. In that respect I know there’s good people out there. And hey, I just might be talking to one of them.
I’d like to take a page from your book and reiterate that none of this was said in anger. This is a discussion, and quite frankly I’m enjoying it now thanks to you. And don’t get me wrong, if you ARE telling the truth then good for you. If in fact you are a doctor healing the innocent your comrades have mercilessely attacked, or if it was you who kept that generator going while they saved a child then I hope you get that kindness back 10 times over. I don’t like doctors but that’s for a completely different reason. (I’m terrified of surgery and can’t be in hospitals for more than a few minutes without a panic attack.)
March 11th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Just like you say you cannot accept anything any of us says for face-value, how can you expect us to take what you say for face value? I’m not talking about videos – and what not. Videos speak for themselves. The speak for the people involved in that said video – they do not speak for an entire group of people.
If that were the case, then lets talk about these people who claim to be Christians – who are walking around, picketing all the soldier’s funerals. They call themselves Christians, yet I as a Christian myself, find their behavior disturbing and blatantly disrespectful. Who cares that they don’t agree with war, or they feel that all soldiers must die because people in America support gay-rights. Who cares about that. These soldiers died. They were once fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, husbands, wifes… They to had family, yet these people disgrace them by showing up at their funerals and basically saying they deserved death. That is not right – and in my opinion, that is unChristian-like. Should non-Christians base their despise of Christianity, based on those people that picket these funerals? Should they say that all Christians are religious nut-jobs?
Wouldn’t you feel a little frustrated, or even angry if somebody said to you – because you’re a Christian, you’re a fool – following a blind faith.
And, you didn’t answer my questions in my last post (before this one). I don’t know if you are trying to avoid answering it, or if you don’t have an answer for it … but I’ll ask it again.
What does a country do when it is faced with a situation similar to 9/11?
Does a country sit back and say, “Oh well – we were attacked. No biggy. I’m sure that we’ll recover from this.” Or doe that country make sure that it doesn’t happen again? Does that country fight back in a time of need?
If it doesn’t fight back, and eventually that country (America in this case) is so bombarded with random attacks – that we look like a fancier Middle-East, what are anti-war folk going to be saying then? Are they going to be praising our government for sitting back and “turning the other cheek”? Or, are they going to curse the government for not protecting them, their families, their land, their rights… etc…
March 11th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
You want an answer you got it.
Instead of fighting back like bloodthirsty monsters they need to up the defense here. With all our soldiers over there who’s gonna hold back anyone who decides to invade? If they had stayed here and tightened their defenses, we wouldn’t have to worry about any more attacks. We got a bit too high and mighty and 9/11 brought us down a few notches. It should have made us face facts, that we’re not some invincible fortress. We’re not better than the rest of the world. Instead of seeing that, and learning from it, all the flag wavers wanted to get them back for what they did to us. They wanted to prove something. And if you are Christian, then you know we’re gonna be persecuted, they’re gonna say bad things. I’m prepared for it, and I wish there was something I could do to help the people who stay ingorant, but some just won’t face facts.
They say they’re over there protecting us, wouldn’t they do a better job at it here? Last I checked you need to be somewhere in order to protect it-they’re halfway across the world.
But if that were the case they couldn’t profit from it, and couldn’t prove they’re better than everyone else. (Something they’re failing horribly I might add)
So let’s say “How can I prevent this in the future?” without answering with “By killing everyone who doesn’t like us.”
And as for taking what I say at face value, that’s gotta be the funniest thing I’ve heard since Dana’s last post. First off, you have to because I’ve proven it to you. It’s factual. He represents the military, correct? Since they said so themselves, the answer is yes. And since he’s a cruel heartless monster who kills for the joy of it, then that’s what they all must be like. If you like I can go find some of those other clips of completely different people representing the military in a similar, albeit less intense, fashion. Mind you it’s not by much less, but a difference can be seen in some of them. You need to open your eyes and let some thoughts of your own into your little head, it’ll do you some good.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
How many brain dead fluoride drinking IDIOTS that can’t teach themselves anything are on this board tonight!
They have to be FED’s! nobody can be that stupid!
March 11th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
That 9/11 Truther LOGO is a good idea—–need some graphics designers to put some thought into it .
March 11th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Anon – I specifically said that I was not talking about the videos, when I asked you how we can take what you say for face value.
How can we believe that you are actually a Christian? How can we believe that you live this life of non-aggressiveness? How do we know that you do not respond in kind, when you get angry? How do we know you’ve never harbored violent thoughts? How do we know this?
You can’t tell us that we have to accept it, because by your standards you have shown us no proof. We have no video. In fact, there is no way you can really prove any of this to us, because up until this point in your life we have no video of you. Therefore – up until this point in your life, you could’ve done anything – opposite what you say your lifestyle is.
I hope you see what I’m getting at. As much as you preach objectiveness here, you are very subjective in many things. That’s fine. I don’t mind subjectiveness, at all. As such though, if some of the more sarcastic and nit-picky ones wanted to – they could tear your arguments or statements to shreds (the subjective ones that is).
Thing is I think some of us are a wee bit more gracious than you seem to be. We allow you to say what you want to say, and we don’t necessarily disagree with everything. We just disagree with certain aspects of your arguments. For example, I agree that military personnel are taught to kill. That fact is indisputable. But, all of them are heartless monsters, because they’ve been trained to kill? That’s subjective, and I cannot agree with it.
If you say something that is subjective, then we leave it alone – because we don’t care whether or not you have solid proof. We just want to state our opinions, since that is what they are – without you considering us foolish, stupid, brainless – or whatever else is going through that mind of yours.
Your arguments really are lacking quite a bit. You speak of all military service men and women being these horrendous monster; but as of now – until you show me a video of every single one of these men and women, from every single branch, through the beginning of American history until now being these bloody thirsty monsters you claim them to be – raping and pillaging, and killing for the sake of killing (and enjoying it) … I cannot take what you say for face value. I’ve only seen a few videos, and heard a few stories – in comparison to the number of men and women who are actually enlisted in the military. Therefore, in my opinion, your statements of fact are flawed.
March 12th, 2008 at 4:41 am
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
March 12th, 2008 at 4:43 am
Wonder what that will feel like , being judged by a perfect being……….and some puppies.
March 12th, 2008 at 5:28 am
You must be without sin, casting stones like that…
March 12th, 2008 at 5:34 am
It all makes sense now, anon.
You’re one of those Bible-thumping Westboro Baptist fanatics. Tell me, are we in this mess because God hates fags? You remmeber your Commandments, but do you remember the one about loving your neighbor as you love yourself? Funny how the military is a gang of murderers that send people to their respective God, but you! You in your judgements send people away from Him. Good job. You’re somehow more worthy of salvation than me? Better check your text on that one. Don’t worry about sharing Heaven with me, I’ll be on the “murderer” side.
BTW, no anger here, I’m laughing at you each time I write.
March 12th, 2008 at 5:42 am
Full o sin and imperfect , but not in denile like some!
March 12th, 2008 at 5:42 am
We need a 9/11 Truther LOGO to display and silently drive these guys BONKERS !
March 12th, 2008 at 6:07 am
Only a religious fanatic would continue to spout after being called out on your own hypocrisy. You are a waste of time, luggnutz. Enjoy your delusion of righteousness.
March 12th, 2008 at 6:16 am
Is this you, luggnutz? anon? Gabriel?
http://bp1.blogger.com/_MGttW5.....C07109.JPG
Come on, which one of you is this?
March 12th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Not me Dana.
March 12th, 2008 at 6:39 am
No, not you. This is you:
http://caosblog.com/images/hate1.jpg
March 12th, 2008 at 6:43 am
Delusion of righteousness ? Nah. It’s called being humble and honest about one’s shortcomings. See ego and pride are part of the sin we all inherited. Ego and sin stop people from being honest and facing themselves. We could say politicians are liers who never admit to anything. Easy to pick on them cause its blatantly obvious. But the simple man on the street is just as dishonest in that he can’t admit he shouldn’t throw papers or trash on the ground( we all know better) and he should wait to find a trashcan! Confront him and he’ll deny it and ask ‘Who the hell are you!?!’. I crush my ego and pride daily , cause all they EVER did was get me in more trouble. And when I saw men SO bent on avoiding truth and honesty , I made it a goal to do my best to face up to myself and be honest….even if my ears don’t like to hear it. You can’t change , improve , and advance when all you do is run , avoid and deny. So calling me hypocryte is like calling black white. Good luck though.
March 12th, 2008 at 6:52 am
Wrong again. I let Jehovah deal with killers. I stay out of this worldly crap cause its all manipulation and divide and conquer. Me and you arguing over their system and its shortcoming……only pleases them , and leaves us tainted and confused. I don’t even support the execution of murderers cause just like you say ‘ Judge not lest thou be judged’. Sorry you think I’m sick like that. But I learnt long ago , people will say and beleive what they want , despite the fact you know its not true. So I leave all the worldly crap ( us vs them , right vs wrong , U.S vs Al-Qaeda) up to God , and worry about myself and what answer I’ll give at judgement. Aside from that my motto is ‘ Live and Let Live’ , not ‘Divide and Conquer’. This sytem does that good!
March 12th, 2008 at 6:53 am
So you think it’s okay to judge others, as long as you know you have shortcomings?
Judge not…unless?
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…unless?
March 12th, 2008 at 6:55 am
So are your previous posts examples of how you “stay out of worldly business?”
March 12th, 2008 at 7:03 am
Who said staying seperate from wordly things implies you become an anti-social despot. Face it , you have anger issues and you want to come here to release , and anything people say , good or bad , positive or not , you’ll find a problem with and shoot them down. All you REALLY need is a mirror. Go throw some of this at yourself. Either way , your right! Right? All I know is I wouldn’t want to be you right now , feeling bad in my skin about my choices and beliefs , and judging those you tell not to judge. Last few minutes you made about 3-4 judgement on me , but your perfect? As I said , good luck.
March 12th, 2008 at 8:16 am
My judgements are in response to yours and I never claimed the same belief structure as you, nor did I ever say I was without sin. I am quite happy with myself, thank you, as I find happiness in my life doing exactly what I do. I came here only to show those who judge how judgement feels. I have a dog and a cat, both of whom I love and care deeply for. I carry a weapon, but have never killed anyone. I have saved lives, even lives like yours. I came here because I was horrified by the acts of one David Motari, but even more horrified by the anti-military rants and judgements brought about by people like you: God’s own good people. You and your ilk didn’t like it and proceeded to badmouth and judge me, so I responded in kind. Welcome to the cess pool.
March 12th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Folks,
this is all a trick! The terrorists to to make our heroes in uniform look bad! So what if they killed the dog! Dogs are stupid things without a soul! They can’t feel pain!
Shelley
March 12th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Gee “Shelly”, i’m really moved by your compassionate opinion. Thanks for commenting, and demonstrating once again to the general public that we are right. LOL
March 12th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
DoesntMatter, when I said I had presented proof I wasn’t talking about myself. I really don’t care what anyone thinks of me. I’ve never met you before this, I don’t even know your real name (and I don’t care either), and once one of us stops posting I’ll never see or talk to any of you again. I’m not out to prove my Christianity to anyone, and I don’t feel as though I have to take part in any pissing contest.
The proof of the cruelty in the military is what I meant when I said I had proof. And as for my subjectiveness, so far 100% of the videos I’ve seen prove me right. I’ve never seen a soldier or marine do anything good. Really, you could say I’m curious. I wanna see it. Or you could go ahead and teach a pig to fly, either way my curiosity will have been sated.
And if you admit the training to kill, what else could that involve? Let’s say some nice compassionate person comes along and wants to join the military. Someone that is appalled by the thought of shooting another human being, but they’re joining so they can protect a country they love. How would they convince this person that it’s all right? They have to desensitize these people so that not only will they blindly obey, but things like humanity and emotion won’t get in the way.
My religion isn’t what’s being discussed, we’ll save that for another day. And Dana, quite frankly I’m done talking to you, I was done after your second or third post. Now you’re only hurting your side and revealing levels of stupidity I didn’t realize were possible. Use that weapon of yours and raise the collective I.Q. of the world. You represent the military, and so far I’d say you’re doing a good job. All we need to do now is give you a small child and some k.y. Or do you prefer going in dry?
March 12th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Just like a perfect Jesus Freak, anon. Avoid anything that would prove you wrong and change your entitlement to your seat on the high horse. Last time I checked it was the folks like you that were sticking altar boys in the rear. Murderers like me are taking lives, but Holy Rollers like you are destroying souls. Go back to your cult so your Head Thumper can keep filling YOU with all his arrogant bullshit. You only listen to what you want to hear. I’ll bet you’ve accused a lot of non-believers of that, haven’t you?
March 12th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Dana. I’m a christian, but I hate 501c3 organized religion. Taught myself the Bible, no middle men. I don’t blame US soldiers for following orders. But I think it’s time to take a critical look at just “who your working for”.
Iv’e been to Ranger barracks at FT Lewis WA and there is literal “writing on the wall” glorifying rape and murder. The soldiers are also forced to sing cadences commicalizing bashing babies skulls in, and shooting grade school children.
The politicians are to blame, not US soldiers. We need US soldiers on our side. The government just wants stormtroopers who never question authority. That’s NOT what we want.
We want soldiers who maintain high moral standards, honor, and protect the innocent, and are well informed about the Constitution and the actions of politicians.
WE LOVE ALL OUR US SOLDIERS. AND LIKE JOHN LENNON, WE ARE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR LIVES, AND THE LIVES OF OTHERS, FROM PERISHING NEEDLESSLY BECAUSE OF THE LIES.
AND WE LOVE YOU TOO DANA.
March 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Very intelligently spoken Dana, as per usual. But if you don’t mind the grown-ups are talking right now so go outside and play.
Gabriel, (can I call you Gabe?) I have no idea what 501c3 is, but like you I had no middleman. I didn’t necessarily teach myself, but I had good mentors who like us don’t give in to all that cult-like jazz.
But I believe the writing on the wall is all there. I wouldn’t put anything past a government who turns people into those like Dana, so they can make the profit off her bloodshed. But like you said, it’s not her fault, the politicians are to blame. We need to stop people from listening to them, and the world will be a better place. I’ve always said “If the president wants war, give him a gun.”
And as of now I will merely skip past your posts Dana, there’s nothing there worth reading, you’ve proven your stupidity time and time again, and have actually become a bore.
March 12th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
As have you, anon. Out of respect for Gabriel I now digress. You go brush up on your Bible now, anon. Some day you may realize how little you actually know.
March 13th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
well I’ve read your posts for awhile very entertaining …I know shit about the military or about palitics or religin for that matter .I like it this way .None of it intrests me .Hell i cant even spell yet …What I do know is this Motari has single handedly damaged the U S Milatarys rep for being an idiot . And we the people (THE HOUNDS OF HELL ) Will make him pay ……Watch and see …..Sad
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March 13th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Anon. Calling Dana “stupid” may be tempting, but it’s not actually true, and that’s not what i’m trying to accomplish here. We need to remind our soldiers that 911 truthers love them. And we want to encourage them to investigate for themselves.
The 501c3 is a government tax exemption agreement with a catch:
#1 You can never speak out against the government
#2 You can never endorse, nor oppose any political candidate
Any “church” which has a 501c3 agreement IS A JUDAS TRAITOR TO REAL CHRISTIANITY.
Which includes about 95+% of all the churches in America.
A radio show here in the Springs, called “Focus on the family”, does speak out against the government. And exposes anti Christian legislation. So I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
March 13th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Gabriel, I wish I could hear that radio show. And now that I know what it is, I completely agree with you about 501c3. I can’t believe people would agree to that, and it sickens me to see just how low the government will stoop to keep the sheeple in line.
And to cory, you say you know nothing of the military, and of politics. Keep it that way, you have no idea how much better your life will be without that annoyance. And I hope you’re right about making him pay. I’d love to see him get his comeuppance.
March 13th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
anon. You can’t go any “lower”, if you started out at the bottom. Our government is run by perverts, murderers, defilers, liars, pedophiles, fags, and the cream of the crop. And the preachers who go along with it are scum.
Google video “Texe Marrs” and watch the video that exposes corporate Christianity like TBN.
March 13th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
You know, Gabe, you’re right. That’s why I stay as far from politics as I can. I couldn’t even tell you who the new president is, and frankly I don’t care. Up until a week or so ago I could have sworn the guy’s name was okama. Which I found hilarious cause that’s the japanese word for gay transvestite. And I also called him baraka, who’s a character from Mortal Kombat I never really played. (Weird controls for some of his moves.) Baraka the okama, go figure. But I digress. Just remember it’s up to you and me and all the rest of the true Christians to help as many people as we can. I find it saddening that there are preachers who go along with it, and after I think about it, I think even less of the government. And they were at the bottom in that respect long ago as well. Next chance I get I’ll google the Texe Marrs and see what it’s all about.
March 13th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
“presidential candidates” pop up like toast every time there’s an “election”. It’s kinda like a pack of various bubble gum trading cards, packaged nicely together in a red white and blue taffy wrapper, distributed by one company.
If you check the fine print on the wrapper, it always says: Another fine product distributed by the novos ordo seclorum INC. company.
March 13th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Hello again Folks,
My apologies for the delayed reply, but work is work. To reply to your post Anon, I will start with an apology for quoting you with something someone else said, it was never my intention to put words in your mouth. As for the Hospital, we were not a hospital but a forward deployed medical company at camp Montieth Kosovo, as a part of Task Force Falcon. Our primary goal was to give an advanced version of first aid, to those in need, and if need be prepare the severly wounded for evac. The overall mission was to bring peace to an area of civil unrest where rival factions were trying to commit genocide on each other. Every attempt to for a peacefull resolution was made…from attempting to disarm the entire area, to turning off the power to the city(yes the whole city) so that people had nowhere to go but home. While these tactics may seem a bit like an overprotective parent, that was sort of the goal.
Once again, I have no video and cannot divulge to much of my identity as this is the internet(Im sure you will understand). I will however give you enough info to do some internet research if you would like, as you seem like an intelligent individual and a curious one too.
Kosovo, TaskForce Falcon, C co 299th Forward Support Battalion.
That should be quite enough to give you a better understanding of our presence there. Do I agree with our going there, not really as it was not our business, but we had no business there until they began bombing the Red Cross, who only intended to help any and all in need. We also had a very strict rules of engagement, which was to not even raise your rifle unless one was directly pointed at you, a commrade, or an innocent, which at the time I thought put us in a very dangerous position, but those were the rules and not to be broken without severe reprocussions.
I hope with some research this will seem less like the mindless drivel of someone who is defending thier countries pride. And if nothing less, create a reasonable doubt in your mind that not all soldiers are evil, but sometimes good and/or victims of circumstance.
March 13th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
Yo Joe.
To begin, no apology is necessary. Like I said, I am Christian, I just thought it was funny that you misquoted something I believe is true anyway. And the internet certainly isn’t a place for real names, not divulging yours is the only proper course and I’d expect no less from you. I’m not too sure what “forward deployed” or “Task Force Falcon” means, but as long as google understands the string of text you gave me that’s all that matters. I have just one question. Is C co a typo, or is that how I type it?
And as I said before, I’m quite enjoying our discussion. If there were more people like you who could have intelligent conversation on touchy subjects such as this without anger flaring up, I daresay war wouldn’t exist. In short, I respect you Joe, don’t let that change.
All I seek to do is open the eyes of the people I often refer to as zombies; the ones who as of right now refuse to think for themselves. I don’t know where you live, but if it’s anything like where I live, you’d realize just how serious an issue it is. I know that should any of these people I so abhor were to see the video, they’d be just as angry as everyone else. However, they would also believe anything the government told them about it. I mean that quite literally.
The government could tell them the puppy was caught by the terrorists, had a bomb surgically implanted, and then sent into the wild for our boys to find. Not only would they then instantly change their mind, but would cheer for this guy because he stopped an evil terrorist plot. I guarantee you that’s exactly how it would happen.
The next time I post I will have googled what you have given me.
March 13th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Anon,
as a quick reply since it is about my bedtime(darn that work again). C co is not a typo, and google will understand it. C co is an acronym for “Charlie Company” as almost all things in the US Military are abbreviated. What I have offered you is by no means any sort of definitive proof as you would see it. Although it is a helping hand to my side of the discussion.
Until our next meeting,
March 18th, 2008 at 12:21 am
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March 19th, 2008 at 6:25 am
SUN DOWN ! SUN DOWN !
March 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
This is disgusting…. I cannot believe I watched that…..
Lol, I do hope that a** hole goes to hell.
Where he belongs.
March 28th, 2008 at 12:34 am
How can ANYONE claim that the dog was not real or not alive. That makes no sense, it moaned before its horrendous fall. They wouldn’t bring in some fake dog for a stunt in Iraq. Shouldn’t these MARINES being protecting a country and not slaughtering harmless little dogs. I just don’t understand why someone would even be allowed on the force to protect our COUNTRY if they are doing things like these. He will get what he deserves, and like what he said on his little blog thing, he will not go back to the Marines!
March 29th, 2008 at 9:00 am
DISGUSTING
March 29th, 2008 at 9:02 am
Now….who outted Valeri Plame?
March 29th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Here is definate ammunition for the Democrats to throw at General Petraeous on the Congressional hearings next week on withdrawing troops from this cesspool of Iraq. How is this whole thing providing for freedom for Americans? IT’S NOT!!! Just freedom for a bunch of retarded Iraqi ingrates involved in a civil war for the last thousand years!
March 29th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
I wondered where they found such a$$holes to be cops. Now it is making sense. Officer Motari will soon be stealing your weed, car, freedom, family, and money. Most get out of prison with stockholm syndrome. (rehabilitated)
March 30th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
I guess he ain’t scared of nothing. Where did this idiot grow up to talk like that. Doesn’t the marine corp offer free college tuition. Apparently, he didn’t take advantage of it! Well, I can’t wait to see how scared this tough boy is once he gets discharged and goes crawling home like a little puppy. Maybe someone will throw is ass into the ocean with concrete shoes. I hope he kills himself and saves the taxpayers money so we don’t have to prosecute the asshole. His family must be emabarrassed and ashamed. He mentions his “woman” on a website. What loser would date this freakshow? There is a petition going around on the website to inform his community of his behavior. I encourage everyone out there to take the time to sign it!
Also, if you go onto PETA’s website, you will find many other assholes like motari in our world. It’s pretty sad. Get your local government involved and put an end to this abuse that happens in our own backyards!
March 31st, 2008 at 9:37 am
I would rather see a human being die (preferably this jerk-off!) than any helpless little animal such as that puppy. To do something like that you must be in a completely un-empathetic individual with cold blood running through your veins. He deserves to have something/someone that he cares about be thrown off a cliff or hit by a car, just to feel what we feel when watching this video. Karma is a bitch, and I hope to God that it comes back to him, because he deserves nothing short of a severe ass-whooping. I pray that he becomes a POW and is in the hands of our enemy and gets treated in an unhumanely manner, because he sure as hell deserves it. This video obviously makes me very angry, as you can see. I just envision someone doing something like that to my dog, who means the world to me, and I HATE people like him. Die Motari, DIE!!!!
April 1st, 2008 at 8:27 pm
The video is horrifying, makes you wonder what else he is capable of doing..Seems like he needs to undergo some heavy evaluations and testing. The comments are quite amusing though, I think Branson, (comment 606) might also need a little help with the Ol Brain! How is it that you can turn this into a political situation? The man clearly has issues, probably serious ones if he is a Republican but that has nothing to do with the fact that he tossed a puppy off of a cliff. Enlighten yourself, watch Zeitgeist-the movie and learn a little bit about the political party you are so proud of and better yet, you get an honest look at our lovely Government and the few at the very top that already have our futures laid out for us.
April 3rd, 2008 at 8:04 am
I would like to know what punishment this coward received. He’s a disgrace to the human race and the Armed Forces.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:50 am
As an animal lover,and a strong believer in animal rights,I would really love to see this heartless piece of shit fired from his job.I’m ashamed to say someone who would have the heart to throw a poor innocent puppy off a cliff or down a hill is fighting for our country,or representing the united states.He is a disgrace.
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:58 am
And maybe once he gets fired,he can apply to the local slaughter house and get his kicks there.
This angers and outrages me to and unbelievable extent!!
April 4th, 2008 at 12:03 am
I would love to see him DIE by a RPG……………. What a asshole I would love to meet him so i can kick hes 22 year old ass.
April 4th, 2008 at 12:18 am
Looks like they MK ULTRA’D Motari well indeed! If indeed this guy isn’t just yet another one of their many fall guys. Nevertheless,first it starts with animals and then….”Take him to the back room,make it look like we interrogated him and give him his next mission….Queen of Diamonds!”
Long lost son of John McCain?? Probably relocate him. Crazy candy bar in Candihar!
April 4th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
I hope this scumbag gets what he deserves. He a young wiseguy know-it-all, pseudo macho coward.
It’s a shame he is wearing one of the proudest uniforms in the world, one my father wore for 12 years and also in combat in the south pacific. I am a ‘nam combat vet myself so can find no excuse, like PTSD, or anything else for his actions. He was probably a wise punk before he went in the Corps and is the same in the Corps. The Marines didn’t make him this way, he came in this way. I hope he goes out with a courts-martial and dishonorable discharge to follow him the rest of his miserable life.
April 6th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
YourAllABunchOfHippies, Stop quoting me, it’s very painful!
Duke Onkled is under attack by the evil forces of Squadalah!
I’m going to Gamelon to **** him, if you don’t hear from me in a month **** yourself.
April 9th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
The entire population should not stop insisting that this man be prosecuted untill he IS prosecuted. He is a disgrace to man-kind not to mention the military. Im sure he has disgraced his family as well, as Im sure they’re catching hell over his actions too. I hope he has to watch his back the rest of his life. Only someone who is totally sick in his head would torment an animal or child. Heaven FORBID he ever have a child!
April 9th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
This filthy animal deserves to die. If stupid rednecks such as himself or the idiots featured in the other army videos didn’t join the armed forces they couldn’t disgrace the US further. They go into the army as grunts, because they have nothing else going for them, and spread their ignorant idiotic views. They go into a country without caring about it’s culture or history, only consider them inferior and themselves as superior solely for being Americans. That is a farce, the US is going downhill faster and faster each year. What is going on now is a disgrace to the memory of the founding fathers of this nation, and a slap in the face to every decent american out there. The sad thing is most americans still have this delusional view on their own superiority that they are totally blind to the fact that their time on top is ending, all that has to happen is for the EU to consolidate itself properly, China to switch currencies (since it’s losing with the dollar) or a plethora of other things to occur, or even to remain business as usual and watch the US drive itself into the ground due to idiots voting for idiots. The Euro is a much more stable and reliable currency. Filthy animal scums, I hope a roadside bomb tears them up, and teaches their parents to next time either don’t breed their inferior genes, or don’t fuck up again. I am disgusted.
April 10th, 2008 at 4:15 am
this fuckin jerk sjhould have his testes flicked tillt hey explode…he is a coward faggot fuck….
April 10th, 2008 at 10:22 am
This asshole should have a little meeting whit me and “discuss” about what he have done. Down whit the NWO assholes like this one, no place for them on this Heart
April 10th, 2008 at 10:25 am
Oh, and guys, our prerogative and imperative is not simply to talk violence against puppy killers. MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE COMING TO FIND THOSE WHO COMMITTED TREASON AGAINST OUR COUNTRY. Take your frustrations out on the correct targets.
April 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
Fuck those stupid fucking Dogs it was gonna be a fucking feril dog with some kinda diesiease anyway if you havent been out there dont say shit
April 11th, 2008 at 11:46 am
“diesiease” LMAO! With spelling like that it is you that should keep your pie-hole shut.
April 11th, 2008 at 11:49 am
totally agree with NOT_EASILY_FOOLED
April 11th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
…Ah-bdi..You are all right , he is a…bdi… butt fuck , however , they do worst shit to…bdi… BILLIONS of innocent , cute animals in slaugtherhouses across the world , and how many of you give a shit ???
April 11th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
there are davids in every unit, in every war – I’ve seen them myself – I’ve ‘been there’ as a previous poster stated but I would never use that excuse because it is worn out
animals are never mission relevant, you either help if you can but if you can’t – then you mind your own business and carry on with your job, you don’t throw them off cliffs
there are more when the war drags on and the recruiters become desperate
the only sick puppy in that video was david
April 20th, 2008 at 10:02 am
This gutless marine, probably runs and hides when under fire. So, he has to take his frustration out on a poor defenseless animal. He was no doubt beaten as a child and abused by his parents and other siblings, perhaps even molested. so he takes his anger out on the meek. It is too bad the dog did not have a chance to bite him and infect him with a terminal disease. If the marine corp. does not punish this individual, let alone discharge him, dishonablely, it will be a long day before i shed another tear for anyone in the m.c. who dies over in Iraq and soon Iran.
April 20th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Don’t give me this “if you weren’t there, you don’t understand crap. You effing coward. Punk. Liar.
Get the hell out of the US MARINE CORPS, pussy.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
What a nice guy, great representative for the U.S army. I hope that someone will kick six barrels of shit out of him. Maybe throw him off of the same cliff. I am sure his friends and family must be sickened by his behavior too.
May 9th, 2008 at 1:20 am
If I were you guys, I’d stop worrying about this. Why? Because that asshole will get his comeuppance…just give it a little time. Among the angry masses, there will be one person who will knife him in the face like he deserves, not to mention that no real woman will ever fuck him again. He’ll be a scarfaced, prostitute dumpster-pussy fucker for the rest of his days. Rejoice!
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May 26th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I’d like to present a question for those of you who hopes he gets dishonorable discharge. Who would care? He gets to go home and stop throwing his life on the line in a war already lost. The only downside is the military, as well as the stupidly patriotic, wouldn’t like him. The hatred for him comes from his actions, programmed as they may be. Anybody who can think for themselves wouldn’t care in the least HOW he escaped the military. Dishonorable discharge just means he’s free to go back to his life, without fear of getting shot at day in and day out. Should the draft ever come back, (thankfully it won’t), it’s a get out of jail free card. That or you can always fake insanity or some other disability, it’s not hard.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
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June 12th, 2008 at 9:25 am
“Jami Jenkins Says: April 9th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
The entire population should not stop insisting that this man be prosecuted untill he IS prosecuted. He is a disgrace to man-kind not to mention the military. Im sure he has disgraced his family as well, as Im sure they’re catching hell over his actions too. I hope he has to watch his back the rest of his life. Only someone who is totally sick in his head would torment an animal or child. Heaven FORBID he ever have a child!”
Well said and let’s hope he doesn’t procreate!
He has been expelled from the Marines. I presume he will go home to Washington. I believe he will have to look over his shoulder for a long time. Violence against him is not the answer; that would only be stooping to his level. His living with the stigma of being a coward will be punishment enough. Living with putting his family in danger will be punishment enough.
I would suggest keeping his ACTIONS in the spotlight would be punishment enough.
June 12th, 2008 at 9:27 am
You should be thrown off a cliff. You are an evil person and a coward.
June 12th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
IDIOTS! This isn’t about the war in Iraq. This isn’t about the 4000+ Americans who were killed fighting in the war. It’s about a sick individual who gained pleasure in killing an innocent animal and then posting his sadistic video on the web in an attempt at 5 min. of fame. He’s a disgrace to this country, to the Marines Corp and to the human race.
June 12th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
someone e-mail me this guys address and I will kick his ass
July 3rd, 2008 at 10:38 pm
most of the people here sicken me. when people die or any other animal get hurt no gives two shits about it, but when , god forbid, someone hurts a cat or dog you fly off the handle.
Though i don’t condone puppy killing, or any unjustifiable killing, the fact that he was a marine makes no difference to me. the marines teaches you to kill, even if the enemy even if the enemy is a child. The man simply made this puppy a defenseless target. I don’t like this guy but your reactions are ridiculously out of proportion.
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August 7th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Why this scumbag Socio Marines says that he fears nothing. Well he’s lying and I know for a fact because I’m a dissociate and I got this disorder when I was a child because of Sociopathy behavior that was committed against me. Put a firearm muzzle up in front of this maggot Marine’s face so that he can see what is going to happen to him and he’ll become more frightened of death than a normal person would.
Sociopaths think they are invinsible, powerful and unafraid until they get caught.
August 31st, 2008 at 11:12 pm
These are the kind of sick psycho basterds that are becoming part of your local police enforcement officers.
Pretty dam scary.
November 17th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
I understand teh public outcry about this…A horrible act exibited by someone who’s fully grown who is supposed to be trusted. I agree what he did was heinous. Perhaps the fact that it was an animal should not be taken to detract from what he has done. But I also believe in forgivness. I have to. Who has not sinned? To those of you who are out for blood, is more murder going to change it? HE will live with this for the rest of his life…pray for him.
November 22nd, 2008 at 2:10 am
This tool is sadistic low-life trash. This marine is so fucking thoughtless!!! Is that what they learn in boot camp? If the majority of troops in Iraq are of the same caliber, then may the death count rise. Wow, this douche has a loaded weapon too. I would not be surprised at all if he’s shot civilians for fun or is a rapist. Sadistic Personality Disorder. I bet he was mercilessly abused as a child, comes from a trashy ignorant family that’s exudes worthlessness, and did I mention rapist? All of those who are enlisted who don’t subscribe to brazen acts of cruelty should take a stand and revolt against those who behave like this.
December 10th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Everyone fears something. This douche bag is no different. He says he did it to basically put it out of its misery. Doing it while smiling and enjoying it sends a different message. I just hate these kinds of people. I will never understand them. For his punishment he should face off with Fedor Emelianenko and have all his limbs broken, and neck snapped at the conclusion of the beat down.
December 26th, 2008 at 4:07 am
DAVID MOTARI… disgrace to our country and our soldiers. i want to throw that bastard off a cliff so bad!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 am
you know normally i’m right there with most of you on these subjects but…..i have to say not this time yes what the corpral did was disgusting but some ppl don’t process war as well as others and most of us who don’t lose our freakin minds in country lose it at home…yeah yeah poor soldiers whatever no one wants nor expects your pity…or anything else….you love the constitution so much well thats how they pull us already fucked in the mind teens into the military and the ones who aren’t fucked from birth are the co’s who give the orders to kill whatever they point at i.e. get fucked in the mind after joinning its all about making it seem normal and harmless…you people are beating a dead horse this kid could have just made a really really bad decision that yes he thought was funny…sick….yeah but what do you know about what he went through every day remember a single grain of rice can tip the scales how many friends did he watch die before he came across the puppy…NOT DEFENDING THE CHOICE HE MADE BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA UNLESS YOU’VE BEEN THERE…..and the people bringing up vietnam your idiots if you listen to alex the government sent our boys half staffed into a war they didn’t want won if you look at the win/lose america won the war the government just needed the rest of the bs. so please respectfully read more or go find out what the hell would make a normal american boy that you would be fine with dating your daughter till you found out while at war he killed a puppy. when videos like face’s of death float around killing and gutting live animals on tapel!!!!! guess who’s watching those……………………….its okay i’ll wait.