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DNA collection bill wins approval in Maryland
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Brian Witte
Associated Press
April 9, 2008
The Maryland General Assembly cruised toward adjournment tonight, approving an expansion of DNA sample collections in Maryland’s legal system.
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The DNA measure allows the collection of genetic material from people who have been charged with violent crimes and burglary. Current law allows samples to be taken only from convicted felons. The expansion to other subjects will expire after five years.
“The DNA bill was our top public safety priority, and that will, in essence, allow local police officers to be able to solve more violent crimes and get predators off the street — put them behind bars before they rape or murder other citizens again,” O’Malley told reporters.
With most of the heavy lifting behind them, lawmakers were working on some final details in the waning hours.
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April 9th, 2008 at 6:52 am
GUILTY no matter what!!!
April 9th, 2008 at 6:56 am
yeah guilty until proven innocent….
April 9th, 2008 at 6:58 am
The next logical step is to allow police to take DNA during routine traffic stops. Suppose you get stopped at a CHECKPOINT for drunk drivers. Even though you did nothing wrong the police will require you to give a DNA sample or they will search your vehicle and detain you. After all, if you have nothing to hide why resist? Gotta love FASCISM!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:04 am
DNA or not! You’re guilty until proven guilty and fit for trial by execution!
Burn the witch! Burn her! Just like the witch hunts, eh?! Only this time it’s terrorist hunts for blond-haired blue-eyed al-Qaeda operatives that could be your next-door neighbor or yourself! Holy s--- another witch hunt! Didn’t anbody learn anything from the last ones that happened in almost every century in the past?
April 9th, 2008 at 7:08 am
DNA has another wonderful aspect about itself. It can be cloned and planted at the scene of any crime.
Burn the witch! Burn her!
April 9th, 2008 at 7:10 am
“The next logical step is to allow police to take DNA during routine traffic stops. Suppose you get stopped at a CHECKPOINT for drunk drivers. Even though you did nothing wrong the police will require you to give a DNA sample or they will search your vehicle and detain you. After all, if you have nothing to hide why resist? Gotta love FASCISM!”
You’re absolutely right. Think about it, even if they could have everyone accused/charged of a crime submit their DNA, how would these criminals be found? Logic tells you that they would have to sample every (innocent or not)person’s DNA to cross check it against the DNA from alleged felons in their databases to do any good what-so-ever at finding criminals anyway. I would say to look out for this process to be automated in some fashion or form.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Wow, so I guess now even your DNA belongs to the state
April 9th, 2008 at 7:17 am
You have no idea how far down the rabbit hole this goes. They not only own your DNA, they own YOU!
Check out IRS publication 6209.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Wait until the full blown National ID. I will bet anything that you will have to “volunteer” your DNA, retina, finger prints and anything else they can think of.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:35 am
I guess Maryland was looking the other way when the FBI was called out on the hundreds of cases where it completely botched and mishandled DNA evidence, resulting in lengthy prison sentences for many innocent people. Some of whom remain in prison, unable to receive a new trial, in spite of the fact that the core evidence against them is no longer admissible in court. We’ve all heard the stories of cops forcing confessions out of innocent people to close cases…now, they won’t even need a confession, just a tiny DNA sample, which they will conveniently have on hand. Just wait for the next murder or rape that can’t be immediately solved…they’ll just drag up someone with a criminal history and fabricate DNA evidence to implicate them. Juries will buy into it, as they almost always do with DNA evidence, and the DA will roll out all kinds of “experts” and “professionals” to condemn the patsy. The average citizen’s chance of receiving a fair trial is already horrifyingly low, but if they have your blood or hair or saliva magically showing up at the crime scene, forget about a fair trial…you’re f---ed.
April 9th, 2008 at 9:10 am
IKEA furniture stores perhaps?
April 9th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Whats this “Precrime” in the state that I live in now? hmm…have we learned nothing from warner bros and minority report? these guys dont get it…let me tell you though over here in MD how they attempt to pass the most stupid laws they were actually trying to:
Give tickets to drivers who drove in the fast lane on highways for more than 20 minutes I think it was? but of course yea…too much time on these “law makers” hands over here instead of trying to solve crimes and get people help the ones who are committing crimes they toss them in a box make them even more unstable and put them back out on the streets (all colors, all races) how does that help? then they swear they are trying to help
April 9th, 2008 at 9:22 am
Nothings new for Maryland…..the idiots even send Jury Notices to non-citizens of the State.
I’m wondering how many Jury’s are corrupt during trials ?
April 9th, 2008 at 11:40 am
I lived in Maryland at the start of the end of the 80’s/ start of the 90’s.
After waving “hi” to a cop in the parking lot of my apartment building, I was treated to about an hour of questioning.
As a Texan, that REALLY got under my skin.
I don’t see how anyone in their right mind can live in that pit.
True, there are BEAUTIFUL areas, but the state is ruined by the shared border with the District of Corruption.
Same for VA.
April 9th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Today : only criminals, tommorow : everyone. Just like fingerprints…
April 9th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Kergon
As a lifelong Maryland resident, I couldn’t agree more. Too many cops and assholes, But god is it a beautiful state. Stay off the well beaten path and your good.
April 9th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Any serial killer could easily acquire another person’s DNA for a throw down.
DNA can be found in public washroom waste baskets, at lover’s lane to name just a few. And it can be frozen in a common freezer, so anyone that’s planning the perfect crime can collect and save another’s DNA for when a throw down is needed.
It’s really as easy to understand as slaves misleading the blood hounds with a soak bucket and dirty laundry, where the water is then used to lay down a false trail. DNA samples can be used in a similar way and just about anyone could do it if they had a mind to.
Now the real problem is, the experts will testify that is accurate with odds at 1/100,000,000 and the jury takes it hook line and sinker. With the way things are going if you have lot’s of DNA evidence that’s incriminating someone, my first question would be, “how easy would it be to plant it”?
That and with gene replicators it is quite possible to replicate large amounts of someone’s DNA from a tiny sample and that technology is advancing every day. This means that it is possible to peg anyone you like, if you have the right connections.
In considering all of this, IMO fingerprints are harder to fake and would be much more reliable.
With DNA throw downs you don’t have to be smart enough to understand DNA and genetic codes, only as smart as a slave that raised blood hounds over 100 years ago, that got the scent from another man’s laundry basket and then used it with water to lay down a false trail. Works everytime and DNA testing machines are no smarter than a blood hound and the slaves that fooled the law.
Yeah, please tell me accuracy guaranteed to odds of 1/100,000,000 and I tell you you’re a fool.
April 9th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
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Blacksmith Says:
April 9th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Any serial killer could easily acquire another person’s DNA for a throw down.
got a great idea, go downtown and do crack dealer drive by shootings, and leave some politicians or lawyers or judges dna behind on the scene.
sick them on eachother.
April 9th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
I spent 13 years on a police force and I discovered that first priority of the department was to keep from getting sued. Second priority was to make lots of money from law breakers. Third priority was to catch any mistakes made by the officers. Fourth priority was to protect the public. Protecting the public should have been first priority.
April 9th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
I was a cop too, regrettably. 10 years. Those steps 1-4 are dead on.
Nothing in the justice system is about justice.
There are good cops who care about people and question many laws, but they are obviously the minority. Most of the guys who are attracted to that line of work are looking to lord it over the public. They want to kick ass with impunity. They want to be in an elite class of rulers……