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Dog Murder Double Standards
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 5, 2008
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As should be expected, not only the blogosphere is abuzz over the sadistic murder of a whimpering puppy, allegedly by Marine David Motari, but so is the corporate media. As for the latter, we get lame excuses, for instance from shrinks employed by ABC News.
David Spiegel, professor and associate chairman of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the Stanford University School of Medicine, and thus supposedly an expert on these sort of things, tells us Motari was confronting “the fear of being wounded or killed… and one of the ways to confront that may be by showing you’re the one that renders other creatures helpless,” in other words, by sadistically murdering puppies and, we can only imagine, possibly other innocents unable to offer defense.
Meanwhile, over at Wired, we are told “it was more common to hear reports of soldiers rescuing animals in Iraq than mistreating them.” Maybe. But one can only wonder how many animals have died — from bullets of various caliber and bombs of various composition (depleted uranium is especially nasty) — in addition to well over a million Iraqis at the hands of the U.S. military, sent to “liberate” them from Saddam.
But what is really surprising — then again, considering the depth and severity of brainwashing in America, maybe not — are the bloggers who refuse to believe a Marine would do such a thing, no doubt the same as many who refuse to believe “our” government would not kill 3,000 Americans on September 11, 2001. Instead of taking the video at face value, they believe it is a fake. After all, it simply cannot be real because they don’t want to believe Americans are capable of such things.
From the above cited Wired article:
There’s also speculation and suggestion in the blogosphere that the video was faked, or that the puppy isn’t real. Blogger Lindsay Robertson posted a response to the footage and enraged backlash, writing: “It’s so clearly fake!! Still a sick joke, but very obviously fake.” Other YouTube users echoed her sentiments, remaining unconvinced of the video’s authenticity. “Sure this is sick, but its not even real, give it a rest people,” wrote YouTuber MIKEEC.
No explanation offered why it is not real or “so clearly fake,” but we can take a guess — “our boys” are not like those Arabs, specifically al-Qaeda and Saddam, who are considered evil incarnate, somehow less than human, monsters, psychopaths, a series of irrational deductions and stereotypes arrived at with no shortage of corporate media prodding and propaganda, ad nauseam and non-stop like a sickening deluge in the aftermath of September 11, 2001. It is a demonization process, well engineered, that has worked quite well, allowing the U.S. to wantonly murder, rape, and torture on a nearly unprecedented scale — only Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were more ambitious.
In order to better understand this double standard, let’s take a trip back in time — specifically to August, 2002. “A large archive of al Qaeda videotapes obtained by CNN in Afghanistan sheds new light on Osama bin Laden’s terror network, revealing images of chemical gas experiments on dogs, lessons on making explosives, terrorist training tactics and previously unseen images of bin Laden and his top aides,” CNN reported. “Among the most frightening scenes in the collection of tapes are those of testing of a poison gas on three dogs. The disturbing images show the dying moments of the defenseless, enclosed animals.”
“Ahmed Rassam, an al-Qaeda-trained terrorist who pleaded guilty in 2001 to attempting to bomb Los Angeles International Airport, admitted in court last year he had witnessed the gassing of a dog with cyanide,” NewsMax reported on August 20, 2002.
Mr. Rassam’s assertion, however, should be taken with a pinch of salt, as he was allegedly trained at Darunta, an “Arab Afghan” base in Nangarhar, Afghanistan, established by the CIA and MI-6 and allowed to “pass” into the control of one Ibn Cheikh, a Libyan leader of al-Qaeda, according to France’s Direction Generale de la Securite Exterieure (see French Report CIA & MI6 Funded Afghan Al Qaeda Camp):
Training … included the use of … poisons such as arsenic, cyanide, gas, diamond powder, nicotine, and ricin. After Al Qaeda took control of Darunta from the CIA and MI-6, the camp was used to train Al Qaeda operatives to launch a series of deadly attacks, including the November 19, 1995 attack on the Egyptian embassy in Islamabad, the 1998 attacks on the US embassy in Nairobi, the abortive Dec. 31, 1999 “Millennium” attack on Los Angeles International Airport by Algerian Ahmed Ressam, and the attack on the USS Cole.
In fact, the sensationalized dog killings mentioned above were supposedly conducted at the Darunta camp, according to CNN. “Al Qaeda documents examined by CNN last fall in the bombed out ruins of the Darunta camp showed chemical formulas for sarin. Other documents connect the Darunta camp, a series of mud and stone buildings, to chemical testing.”
Naturally, the fact this camp was established by the CIA and gifted to al-Qaeda, itself a documented CIA contrivance, is not mentioned by CNN. But then the idea was to shock Americans with disturbing images of a gassed Fido and thus send the message that al-Qaeda is truly a gaggle of murderous and psychopathic brigands capable of coldly doing in sweet little puppies. After killing the pup, of course, they would use their newly honed skills on American grade school kids.
Few proclaimed the Darunta camp videotape to be “clearly fake,” little more than a “sick joke.”
A senior Bush administration official, who was shown the tape by CNN, said he was “very troubled” by the implications. The official, who has knowledge of chemical weapons issues, said the video of the chemical tests on the dogs suggest a very strong desire to acquire the capability to use such weapons “obviously against humans.”
Sort of like the humans at the Abu Ghraib torture and rape compound?
Obviously, it is a nearly effortless task to convince somnolent Americans, plugged in to Faux News and CNN for their intellectual sustenance, that “our boys” are good and it is only on rare and isolated occasion they commit such acts as brutally torturing small animals — if at all because a blurry and compressed cell phone video is “clearly fake.”
In fact, the Iraqi killing fields are precisely designed — in addition to liquidating over a million Iraqis and decimating one of the oldest cultures on the planet — to inure “our boys” to the stench of carnage and mass murder, no matter the lame excuses weakly offered by shrinks at CNN or the incredulity of bloggers unable to get their minds around the very real and scary fact government is a serial murder machine.
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March 5th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
As I said earlier on another article, we must act. Therefore I have founded a facebook group so that we can all get together and start to talk about what the hell were going to do. It is called the United Front, so please join and it will grow.
March 5th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
The fact is that this just goes to show that war is the spreading of death, and the reasoning is just rhetoric for motivation. like a group of cavemen exlaiming to the tribe that one of their daughters was taken by the neighboring tribe, and they have to march out of their villiage or shelters and go bash the nearby locals….it’s just the spreading of chaos that war is. nothing is saved, and everything is a target. the military doesn’t care. if anything that guy was proving that he was a “hard ass” soldier….most military reasoning would be ” if you cant kill this puppy, how can you look into the eyes of your enemy and pull the trigger?”.
WAR IS HELL. THE THOUSAND YEARS HAVE ENDED; ALL REASON INSTILLED IN PEOPLE THROUGH CHRIST OR RELIGION HAS BEEN DRAINED COMPLETELY- THEY HAVE UNLEASHED THE GATES OF HELL!
March 5th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
KBR IS BUILDING UNDERGROUND BASES FOR THE MILITARY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SO NO ONE CAN SEE WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON WITHIN THEM. IF THEY WILL DO SUCH NASTY THINGS TO PUPPIES, JUST THINK WHAT THEY WILL DO WITH CHILDREN KIDNAPPED AND TAKEN TO THE UNDERGROUND FACILITIES…WAKE-UP, AMERICA, THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT YOUR FRIEND AND PROTECTOR…
March 5th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
All this SHOULD show everyone what the military is capable of doing. What happens when the NWO unleashes them on its own people? Is the end result population control via concentration camps. It’s not like this hasn’t happened in a different country. Why would we be any different?
March 5th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
I guess the controlled media’s point is if Al-CIA-da can do it, then even you at home should be able to have your way with puppy dogs or any other living being.
Look, nobody is buying the establishment’s BS except losers who drive around with duct tape in their 76 Trans Am’s and the establishment types themselves.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Jack Davidson (are you cointel provocateur?). Look back and study all successful revolutions..unless you work in small intimate, trusted groups of ones, twos, threes, (groups not interconnected yet with a common agenda) you will be infiltrated, setup,.. defeated. Many of us have posted acts of change on this site that groups or individuals can do to begin the process of restoring the Republic. I think most effective would be a transportation industry strike called out by union leaders which would effectively shut down the entire countries trucking and air travel. (Jones has not put this, or other effective solutions on the air waves..which makes me suspicious of his true motives) Stopping Mexican trucks coming across the border is certainly an area Teamsters are looking at. Also, perhaps “visit” your local Representative or Board of Directors member of a nearby International Corporation. Have you defined your demands? Perhaps put repealing the MC and Patriot Acts, full restoration of 2A, impeachments, dissolution of the FEDBANK, IRS…on the list. Some members of law enforcement and the national guard have united…google “Operation Vampire”..although, I believe these folks are waiting for the tipping point before they mobilize.. when the call to confiscate all weapons is made they will begin assassinations. Nevertheless, when you have decided what you are going to do..post a date and the rest of us frequenting this site will also carry out ops simultaneously. Looking forward to the SC’s decision.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Definitely know that especially the federal government has opted to no longer be responsive to the people. Expect more and more totalitarian dictates from them.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
DON’T BRING THE TROOPS HOME! I don’t want these demons as neighbors. Please destroy the zombies over there.
March 5th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Rob from Canada is right on! The sick twisted politicians in our executive branch of government are promoting and are directly responbible for this sick twisted behavior! Shame on those RAT BASTARDS!!! Oh I forgot they have no shame. I thought the commander and chielf was in charge of the military! OH BROTHER!!!!!!
March 5th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
stock up on ammo and canned goods, it looks like a nasty ride
March 5th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
As I have written over and over regarding this….you damned fools are taking the actions of some psychos and applying it to everyone in the military….you are lining up with the f---ing communists who spit on my dad and other Vietnam vets. As usual, none of you have ever been in the military, or, if you have served, you have done so in the Air Force, Navy, or a rear echelon job. These psychos you are focusing on are not representative of the average Soldier or Marine. I was a Ranger in the Army. I was a “snake eater” so to speak. I did some pretty nasty s---. I never did anything like this nor did any Ranger under my command. You f---ing dimwit activist 9-11 truthers are blowing this whole thing in a bad way. Those of us in the Patriot movement know better than to fall into this silly stupid trap. You are going to alienate the thousands of awake and aware patriots in the military by bashing their character, you god damned fools! This country teeters on the edge of foreign invasion and a shooting war and you idiots bash the military…you know, the group that supports Ron Paul. f---ing idiots! It is s--- like this that makes me listen to Mark Koernke and regard most other commentators as greedy pretenders.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
The article was talking more about how the media basically conditions one to only believe what is told to them, and of course the nature of those who are in control of our government. “This country teeters on foreign invasion..” Well if the military was not spread so thin purposely by International Banking interests in control of our government then we would have our military here at home and not all over the world. We wouldnt have this war in Iraq that is contary to the constitution. You seem like you forget (conveniently) the fact that some of the over 10,000 deserters said they left because they were being told if a shot is fired by someone to kill all Iraqi’s that are around. You seem to forget the fact that over 1 million of innocent Iraqi’s have been killed. No not all the military is bad or capable of these kinds of things that is exactly why desertion rates are so high. There are honest to good people in the military and that are in Iraq, the problem is they should not be there in the first place. If you are ordered to go to an unconstitutional war you should do what the oath you have taken says to do “Obey the constitution and do not obey an unlawful order”. That is what the oath is for, to protect those in the military from being used and abused by tyrannts to do their bidding. If you honestly believe we are on the brink of invasion from a foreign enemy then it would make more sense to have all those troops from Iraq shipped back home to their families and to have them protect the citizens here in America. Regards,
T.L.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Killing dogs isn’t murder.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
You can judge a nation by how they treat their prisoners.
GITMO says it ALL.
The soldiers just prove it.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
‘Matthew Dickinson Says:
Killing dogs isn’t murder.’
How is killing something not Murder please explain your comment sir. I am afaid I don’t understand.
March 5th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
You can also judge a person(not the military or a nation) on how he/she treats animals and children.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
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Matthew Dickinson Says
Is killing a robot murder?
Answer by Vairocana the robot owner.
I don’t think NOW destroying a robot is considered murder. Robots right now are very primitive, they are made by us and we control everything they do. They have no consciousness. I think, as the human technology advances, we will eventually design robots with self consciousness. That being said, humans will grow attached to the robots like we are attached to pets such as cats and dogs, and just like killing a cat or a dog, people will eventually get punishment for destroying a robot.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
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watchdog1775 Says:
March 5th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
As I have written over and over regarding this….you damned fools are taking the actions of some psychos and applying it to everyone in the military….you are lining up with the f---ing communists who spit on my dad and other Vietnam vets. As usual, none of you have ever been in the military, or, if you have served, you have done so in the Air Force, Navy, or a rear echelon job. These psychos you are focusing on are not representative of the average Soldier or Marine. I was a Ranger in the Army. I was a “snake eater” so to speak. I did some pretty nasty s---. I never did anything like this nor did any Ranger under my command. You f---ing dimwit activist 9-11 truthers are blowing this whole thing in a bad way. Those of us in the Patriot movement know better than to fall into this silly stupid trap. You are going to alienate the thousands of awake and aware patriots in the military by bashing their character, you god damned fools! This country teeters on the edge of foreign invasion and a shooting war and you idiots bash the military…you know, the group that supports Ron Paul. f---ing idiots! It is s--- like this that makes me listen to Mark Koernke and regard most other commentators as greedy pretenders.”
You make a fine point. It’s no abu ghraib. Mini-video cams have changed the whole paradigm and dynamic of war for warriors and others. The people commenting got a to stand on the cliff and die with the puppy.
So, your Michael Jackson “one bad apple” point holds water.
Move on, nothing to see here. Another one bites the dust. It was just a dog.
The things we do for oil.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
“dog killing”
this ain’t peta..
March 5th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
We judge entire Arab nations based on the news reports of what .0001% of the population does.
It just hurts when the tables are turned and its done to US by US.
March 5th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
just examine history and you’ll see that being inhumane, bloodthirsty, and being deprived of morals is pretty much what white man is about. What do stalin, hitler, crazy u.s. presidents, and the Illuminati have in common? ALL WHITE
March 5th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Muffy, Tip, and Butch: A Study in Starvation
http://babysue.com/starvation.html
hahah a classic!
March 6th, 2008 at 12:40 am
There is an astonishing book called “War is a force that gives us meaning” by Chris Hedges. This book is highly recommended to anyone interested in the effect that war has on us as a culture and us as individuals.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Torture, collective punishment through food and water shortage, cutting off of electricity, imprisonment of all males over the age of 12, destruction of crops/fruit trees…..
NEW WORLD ORDER TACTICS THAT WILL BE USED ALL OVER THE WORLD ONE DAY.
“The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish planning and Jewish dissatisfaction. Our Plan is to have a New world Order. What worked so wonderfully in Russia, is going to become Reality for the whole world.” — The American Hebrew Magazine, 10, Sept. 1920
March 6th, 2008 at 12:49 am
what color was imi amin you f---ing bigot?
March 6th, 2008 at 12:53 am
and by the way justice, you ill-informed moron, the “illuminati” have co-opted the leaders of all races.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:54 am
watch alizee!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ceSxEjwXHcM
she is cute!
March 6th, 2008 at 12:56 am
justice, people like u are part of the problem, weak-minded, useful idiots who continue the race antagonisms that keep us fighting amongst ourselves instead of uniting against the common enemy.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:40 am
Justice,
That’s right it’s all the white man fault. He is to blame for all.
Hell the white man might have even came up with the idea of having you blame everything on him! But, no the white man could never trick you. Just because the white man has used this tactic before throughout history. And has used little pawns like you to do the foot work, throughout time as well.
Honky might have even giving his “trick” a name like, divide and conquer.
Retard, it ISN’T about black vs white, or any other race. IT IS ABOUT those with power controlling those without power. Causing infighting, confusion, and race bating. WE, ALL OF US, NO MATTER what race are used to distract each other, while they move in and take control. We helped create all of this, IT’S OUR FAULT, we fell for the big trick.
It is not the mythical “white man”, it’s all of mankind
March 6th, 2008 at 5:30 am
Justice, I think you need to stop being myopic and take a step back and actually listen to what the likes of Alex Jones says.
What are you doing on this site anyway?
The black/white hatred thing is a load of bulls--- promoted by the new world order to keep everyone at each others throats so we won’t look at real issues and take command and run the ‘elite’ out of town.
Get a grip man.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:06 am
justice
you have s--- for brains. It’s not a white thing.
Just as dope peddlars are not a black thing.
What about Idi Amin,
Farrakhan’s boss pedophile Mohammed whatever – they crucified a white guy,
How about Mao,
Mexico’s government officials (whatever that means),
Your accusations mean nothing. Whites have been ‘picked off’ and massacred as well. Doesn’t justify any of it. Humans who sell out do it….whatever race, creed, color, gender.
You’re looking mighty ‘hinky’.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:22 am
What kind of B.S you guys believe.This country(iraq) has millions of strays that roam around in packs being a danger for safety and health reason.Its not uncommon to destroy them.
Just animals that are a problem here…..
March 6th, 2008 at 6:49 am
Firstly i must make a point that before i started watching all the documentry’s i believed people, like Alex Jones to be crack pots and to be rabble baiters who were dissatisfied with the government for their own selfish needs.
However i believe now nearly everything that has been shown in Alex Jones’ documentary and others like ’secret rulers of the world’ as Alex Jones says in his documentary’s wake up i believe i have woken up.
i come from the UK and in the last few years growing up and living in London i see an increased use of military/ police force. police with mp5’s outside Westminster, yes maybe handguns but not sub machine guns. i have also seen as i was in the marine cadets noticed at major events that there were snipers positioned all around London (this is refering to the lord mayors parade) raids on innocent Muslims house to put fear and hatred in different communities (i am not a Muslim or a Muslim sympathiser). All these point to a police state. I’m sorry killing of dogs is just in humane, they are mans best friend, we should be looking after them. This reminds me of ruby ridge incident.
I would also love to be a part of spreading the truth.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:26 am
jojo you are a retard
March 6th, 2008 at 7:29 am
I’m from Germany and at first, i was very sceptical of Alex. But he’s really telling the truth. Sometimes it’s a little too much, i have to keep myself from researching too much. It’s all true and it’s not nice.
March 6th, 2008 at 7:31 am
down with the bilderberg or the illuminati.They don’t care what color you are ,you must die black white or yellow..They are who we need to get
March 6th, 2008 at 7:42 am
i saw that video of that marine throwing that poor dog over that cliff, i don’t know how people could say that’s fake, that dog looked clearly real, i go to to tom savini’s school for special effects, that would have to be a very well made animatronic that would have taken months to make. and it looked real. that excuse that he was dealing with the effects of being shot at or possibly killed id bull. if he is willing to do that to a defenseless animal, what makes you think he wouldn’t do that to a baby, but i guess that would be dealing whith those effects too, as far as i’m concerned are military are the real terrorist, our leaders are th real war criminals why haven’t they been stopped?
March 6th, 2008 at 7:54 am
For those of you with a brain (not those blinded by hate):
How can you not see right through this article? This is a hit piece on the military and the US. AJ and Nimmo and Watson all hate the military. They took the actions of a single Marine, and have applied it to the entire military. Instead of calling for this Marine to be held accountable for what HE has done, he instead condemns the entire lot. This site has reported on any atrocity (and there have been similar atrocities in every war) but has not reported on ONE SINGLE positive thing done by any military personnel either home or abroad. That is unbalanced, agenda driven, that stems from hatred of the armed forces. And the brainless on this site lap it up. The loons on this site don’t concern me as much because there are loons on all sides. It is those of you who have intelligence but are becoming blind and not seeing that the very thing you accuse the government and MSM of doing (brainwashing) is happening to you on this site.
Case in point:
Frank Schlözer Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 7:29 am
I’m from Germany and at first, i was very sceptical of Alex. But he’s really telling the truth. Sometimes it’s a little too much, i have to keep myself from researching too much. It’s all true and it’s not nice.
You have to keep yourself from researching too much? What does that mean? Afraid to find out that AJ is driven by hate? Afriad to find out that he distorts the truth? Who is the sheeple now?
The fact is you should question what the government tells you as well as other sources. That doesn’t mean they are always right or always wrong, but they always have an agenda. Alex is in it for the money. Don’t think for a minute he is not.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:01 am
You’re a moron tuna. Plain and simple. If he did it to a dog, he would do it to a baby.
Our military are terrorists. You and Rosie need to go off to the corner and practice your stupidity.
Thank god you morons just post your stupidity.
You need a place to cry about your pitiful lives.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:08 am
I know a good dozen or so people in varying stages of closeness that are over in Iraq right now……Doing something like this, I wouldn’t put it past any of them. They are all totally frigging nuts AND clueless. Thats why they joined the military to begin with.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:16 am
THANKA MARINE,
Drop the sob act would you? What you don’t understand, is that THERE ARE NO POSITIVES TO REPORT ON.
What exactly is positive about taking advantage of the stupidest and most easily directed/brainwashed youth of America and turning them into darky-killers?
What exactly is positive about the murder of a million innocent Iraqi’s over the last 5 years?
What exactly is positive about usurping leadership in other countries where we don’t belong, and taking complete control over assets that are valuable to the “leaders” who organized the invasion?
OILOILOILOILOILOILOIL.
There are no positives about a war. EVER. If you want, when its over, you can look for the silver lining……but thats a privelege of hindsight.
There is nothing positive to report about MURDER, rape, lies, and dehumanization.
The Marines are an absolute complete and total joke. The educated portions of America understand this in its entirety. And its so incredibly sad.
Stop trying to defend an institution that exists for the sole purpose of breeding KILLERS, murderers, for use at the whim of Elite control freaks.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:26 am
There you go. Try using true facts first instead of distorted ones.
“What exactly is positive about the murder of a million innocent Iraqi’s over the last 5 years?”
The vast majority of those dead are at the hands of Iraqi’s, not the US. And to say that all of them are innocent is assuming facts that you do not know.
You can be against the war all you want. I don’t have any issue with that. What I take issue with is applying that position to each and every servicemember in uniform. Calling them murderers. That is pure hate speech. This site cherry picks each atrocity and hoists it up as if this is happening all over the place when that is not true. There are individual acts of kindness and respect everyday, but you would not read about here. That would be counter this site’s agenda of hate. How can you show something respectful and be so hateful at the same time. Again, the braindead, and it appears you must be one of them, don’t challenge the one-sidedness of this site and take the ball and run with it because it fuels their own hatred and makes them feel important and good.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Thank a Jarhead: How you doin bud? RIO here and I just wanted you to think about the fact that you and all military are one big machine. I realize that good soldiers get thrown in with bad ones and it can turn into a mob mentality. It is the responseability of our Prezidentay to not put our soldiers in that kind of situation. So you are right we should not condem the millitary as a whole, but it is the responsibility of each one of our soldiers to protect our constitution and our country and refuse to take orders that are inmoral. Just being in Iraq is unconstitutional. I would love to see you in the millitary stand up as one force and bring this war to an end. You can make the difference. Then we will all have something good to talk about. Real heros are truly peacefull people.. Power to the peacefull RIO in NC
March 6th, 2008 at 8:39 am
@marine: Alex is in for the money? Of course! He has to earn money to keep the show alive, to earn money for cameras, equipment, etc. There’s nothing wrong in earning money. But he also talks the truth.
And i’m not getting the info from one source only. I’m still reading newspaper, too.
Someone talked about the puppy might have been computergenerated. I talked about thatm but that was sarkasm. People don’t even get it anymore. And actually, it’s not important at all. There are hundrets of thousands of civilians dying and you care about a cute puppy. Not that i don’t like puppies, but i see that as a sign for how far you people have been conditioned and de-humanized. So time to see behind the smoke-screen.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Frank –
I didn’t say there was anything wrong with Alex making money or turning a profit. Just you should consider the source. The fact that you seem fooled that he only makes money to “keep the lights on” shows that you put a little too much faith in this guy. This guy sells things for PROFIT. I don’t mean to imply that he doesn’t believe in things he sells, but in the end, he is in it for him. It would be tough for him to be on the radio railing against the elite who profit from capitalism and then be obvious about how he does the same.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:53 am
it’s something very different if a corrupt elite sends soldiers into war to make big $ from contracts or if a person sells movies!
Alex doesn’t kill anyone by selling his movies. he doesn’t drug people, he doesn’t poisen people with DU. By selling his movies, he’s actually contributing something valuable to society! That’s what healthy entrepreneurship should be about – mutial prosperity.
We shouldn’t turn into mindless sheep and still question everything, but as for Alex Jones, i think he’s about 90% correct.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:55 am
ThankaMarineForYourFreedom Says:
March 6th, 2008 at 7:54 am
I would like to respond to what you said. Whether you are a neo-con plant, or just misinformed, I have found that Alex is pretty much right on in what he has said over the years, but I for one, don’t just take his views at face value, nor do I agree with him on every issue. On the other hand, I have been reading and researching and been aware of many of the things that he speaks about, for longer than he has even been alive. Whether you believe Alex or not is a chose you have to make on your own, but believe me, the things he speaks about have been in the pipeline for many, many years, and long before he was even the “gleam in his daddy’s eye.”
When I read your remarks, I can’t help but wonder what planet you live on, and what kind of koolaid you have been drinking, but more to the point, if you feel as strongly as you seem to, why the hell are you even hanging out, and posting on the site. Haven’t you any yarn to do some knitting with, or what exactly is your problem? You have your right to your beliefs just as all of us do, but at the same time, I am not inclined to go to all of the neo-con sights, and tell posters there, just how much I disdain their beliefs. Whether you believe what you post, or whether you are just doing finger exercises on the keyboard only you know. At the same time, there are those among us who really do know the truth, and its evident that either you are a) a bumbling fool or b) a neo-con plant.
You speak of Alex being in it for the money. To challenge your allegations, I will point out, as I am sure you are aware, Alex not only allows his many movies to be copied but distributed for free. Now if he was in it just for the money, he would be be crying foul as loud a Sony has over their recordings.
Yes, a few posters on this site have painted all of the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan with the same brush as that moron who threw the puppy off of a cliff, and there is no doubt that is not a fair assessment, but it is just as unfair for you to insinuate that all of the posters here, have the same thoughts as they do.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:58 am
Frank –
“By selling his movies, he’s actually contributing something valuable to society!”
http://www.conspiracyarchive.c.....Attack.htm
I’m sure this fella has nothing but love for what value AJ added to his life.
Yeah, that was valuable to society. Did Jones take any responsibility for what his movie got this individual to do?
March 6th, 2008 at 9:03 am
The more money $ truthers like Alex make, the more money $ they can pump into the truth, and stay on the front lines unimpeded getting the word out to the public. As soon as truthers DARE to earn a little cash, immediately finger pointers crawl out of the woodwork with thier keen “observations”. Fact is, without money, the truth/patriot movement would grind to a halt. Researchers everywhere would become ineffective. DVD’s, documentaries, radio shows, all would cease to exist. Without financing for the truth/patriot movement, we basically would still be sitting around thinking the Davidians had it coming, and Arabs attacked us on 911. People like Alex Jones and team are above all possible suspicion, because they jealously defend gun rights, the Constitution, and expose violations of same to the public. People who are the enemy do the opposite. Pure and simple.
March 6th, 2008 at 9:05 am
So you’re making Alex responsable for what some nut does? We had that in germany, too! It was called ‘Sippenhaft’ and it was a Nazi-law. People were responsable for the actions of their family-members.
So, marine-dude, you’re really on loosing ground here, every argument you give is pure bogus. If you want to discuss, give me something reasonable.
March 6th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Frank –
Thanks for walking into my trap. No, he is not responsible for what this nut did. Nor are the Marines responsible as a whole for things individuals do. That is my point. However, it would seem that most on here have a double standard when it comes to this matter.
March 6th, 2008 at 9:20 am
well, all marines aren’t responsable for what some lone nuts do. Still, there is lots of similar stuff happening. The video is not a single incident. So we have to talk about it.
Also, there are 100.000 civilian iraqi casualties. SO IT IS NOT A SINGLE PUPPY.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND? REPEAT: DO YOU GET IT?
I’m done talking.
March 6th, 2008 at 9:53 am
I personally know a girl in Houston Texas that is now a convicted felon for killing a kitten that was dying from parvo.
She worked at a vet clinic and would take home convalescing animals that had been abandoned. She brought home a kitten one weekend and later discovered the animal was sick with parvo, knew it was terminal, and instead of letting it suffer through the weekend, she called over a friend who then killed the kitten. She couldn’t even bring herself to kill it but instead had a male friend do it. He did it on the porch of her apartment. A noisy neighbor called the cops. Now she is a convicted felon.
She loves animals and there was no nefarious intent with what she did.
But a marine does it and he is just blowing off steam?!?! pffft…
March 6th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Alex is in it only for profit?
That is like saying any journalist is in it only for the money. That is like saying any doctor is only in it for the money.
BTW I don’t thank marines for my freedom. In fact police and soldiers have been complicit in the reduction of our freedoms and liberties for years.
I don’t support the troops. Cops and soldiers for the most part will follow ANY order no matter how much it counters their oath to protect and defend the constitution.
Thank a marine or soldier for our freedoms?
HAHA… The reality is you should be saying, Thank a marine for the REDUCTION of our freedoms.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:46 am
Only in a corporate media controlled by the military-industrial complex can soldiers get away with murdering puppies while Michael Vick is virtually crucified by the same corporate media whores for having a dogfighting ring. Now THAT is a double standard.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Another crappily written article meant to have you pick sides instead of uniting. Thanks again Alex and Co. for dividing Americans. You are no better than BushCo.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Apathy is a stinky cologne isnt it? He gets what he deserves, serves the forces that be right for being forces to begin with.
March 6th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I used to be a huge Alex Jones Fan. However, yesterday was a real turning point for me. He keeps telling his audience that the military is a whole bunch of “demonic psychopathic killers” and that everyone in the militar would turn on the American people in a heartbeat. Come on man who are you kidding? 99.9% of deployed Soldiers, Airmen, Saliors or Marines don’t even leave the base they’re assigned to, let alone have a chance to shoot their weapon. So how can someone who has never shot their weapon at anything but a piece of paper during target practice be a killer? Alex have you been to Iraq or Afghanistan? I didn’t think so. So please stop branding our military as a bunch of Demons.
I never hear you talk about the fact we get mortered dozens of times a day. Or there are hundreds of IED’s placed on the roads of Iraq and Afghanistan daily. Do you believe the CIA are the people encouraging this practice? I think not. Do you want us to let this practice happen unchecked? Yes our military does kill some Iraqi’s however almost all of them had it coming.
Alex also likes to mention that 30% of the soldiers in a poll said that would shoot U.S. citizens if ordered to do so. In my opinion that poll is bulls---. First off, how many people took the survey? I bet it wasn’t much. What branch of service was it? . Lets say 3000 people in the military in took the survey. (thats about how many personel are on a small base.) Lets say they all said “yes I would shoot an american if I was ordered to”. That is still only .001% of the american military. There is no way in hell our armed forces would turn on americans. If we did get ordered to do so there would be a mutiny of cataclysmic preportions.
Another thing I disagree with is the killing animals and innoncent Iraqi people for fun “talking point” that alex and his followers say the American military enjoys doing. Alex claims that he found “100’s” of videos that depict soldiers torturing animals. I went on you tube searched for “soldiers torturing animals” and guess what i found…21 videos 3 videos with soldiers commiting the act(Don’t get me wrong I find it disgusting) and 18 responses about those videos. THE SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN IN OUR MILITARY ARE NOT A BUNCH OF ANIMIAL HATING PUPPY KILLERS!!!!!!!!!
The point I’m trying to make is you guys exaggerate way to much. A majority of the people that post here have never served in the armed forces or have gone to Iraq or Afghanistan. So stop talking s--- about things you know nothing about. Most of you people would s--- your pants if stepped foot inside Iraq. let alone going outside the wire. To all my fellow servicemen deployed right now I salute you. I’ve actually been there.
P.S. I will be cancelling my subscription to prisonplanet.tv
—-A concerned Airman
March 6th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I asked a former Army person yesterday if he would help disarm the American people if he was told to do so yesterday. He said that he would gladly do so and if they didn’t comply he would simply shot them. What a piece of trash!
March 6th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Airman, you have to ask yourself why those people are setting the bombs and lobbing the mortars at US forces.
Alex isn’t too far off the mark on this one. All those troops over there still think they are fighting “insurgents” and terrorists, for God and country. Just follwoing orders.
It’s not a far stretch to convince those same troops that they need to fight Homegrown Terrorism, which must really be on the upswing, since the Guv has suddenly focused in on that topic.
You’re on this website…..that makes you a Person of Interest. Now you’re listed with the other 770,00 (at last count) of potential terrorists in the USA. (according to them, that is)
March 6th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Hey, AIRMAN,
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE FASCISM
Alex Jones is not slighting the average military man/woman. What he IS saying, is that troops, who VERY often come from abusive and disadvantaged backgrounds, are “tested” to see if they are willing to cross the line, AND IF SO…….are then being DELIBERATELY BRAINWASHED TO LOSE ALL REMAINING SENSITIVITY.
THEY BECOME….
WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD WALKING DEAD !!!!!!!
By the time these kids are done being put through the paces of endless torture and slaughter, they are either madmen-psycho-killers being funneled into the police forces, OR, seriously incapacitated mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually, and have dismal chance at ever living a full and happy life.
UNDERSTAND THIS – THEY ARE USING IRAQ AS A TRAINING GROUND, TO TWIST THE ALREADY TROUBLED MINDS OF YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN. THESE ARE THE PERCENTAGE OF “MILITARY” THAT WILL BE USED WHEN MARTIAL LAW HITS THE FAN.
BESIDES WHICH —– THE SADISTIC ASSHOLES RUNNING THINGS THINK ALL MILITARY IS S**T ANYWAY!! THE POWERS THAT BE LAUGH BEHIND YOUR BACK – YES – YOU TOO!!! YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN EXPENDABLE BODY – A SLAVE – THEIR PROPERTY. I FORGET THE EXACT QUOTE, BUT THE ELITE THINK MILITARY MEN ARE JUST “DUMB ANIMALS.”
THEY ARE USING YOU
I AM SO TIRED OF THIS S**T!!!!!! I AM IN F**KING EXILE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, WITH MY CHILDREN, TO KEEP THEM SAFE. WE MISS OUR HOMELAND AND WILL NOT STAND TO SEE IT TAKEN DOWN.
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP GETTING CAUGHT UP IN ENDLESS DEBATE OVER EVERY LITTLE DETAIL AND
START FILING LEGAL MOTIONS
TAKE THE POLITICIANS TO COURT
March 6th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
If you notice in the puppy throwing video, he had to put a certain amount of strength into throwing it over the cliff.. If it were fake he would have been able to throw it much faster and further!!
Watch the video again if you have to, and notice what I’m saying!
March 6th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
I don’t think this country would be so torn about war, if the war had a good and real purpose other than oil and control as in the pre planned PNAC documents!! It seems during WW2 the whole country united and did what they could for the cause and maybe that was because it was a
good cause.. Atleast that’s the picture I get.. But then you have Vietnam were the country was again divided and people took sides of being pro war and anti war.. Was that because it was unjust as the Iraq war is now?? We know the WMD thing was a complete lie and Saddam is now dead, so what is the purpose of staying there? Terrorists wern’t their before we got there and now they are so we have to stay there now? Gimme a break!! All this s--- is one BIG fraud!!
911 was an inside job and the whole world would probably attack us if the truth ever got out!!
Maybe that’s why so many people refuse to educate themselves!! Fear!! Their simply scared!!!
March 6th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
IOF troops murder infant girl, wound her mother in central Gaza. Big tough soldier’s kill dog’s, and infants. Pick on someone your own size.
http://www.palestine-info.co.u.....dZpTJdk%3d
GAZA, (PIC)– The IOF troops murdered a 20-day-old infant girl called Amira Abu Asr, wounded her mother and assassinated a leader affiliated with the Quds Brigades, the armed wing of the Islamic Jihad Movement, during their incursion into the Abu Al-Ajeen village to the east of Deir Al-Balah, central Gaza Strip.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
We should throw those anti-war protester (like the ones bombing recruit station in NYC) over cliffs.
Then we see if they want to bomb any more……
March 6th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
The Videos You Tube Can’t Let you see!
These were posted on You Tube and then they were removed because of copyright.
I have reposted them on my blog from the original source. FU Viacom
http://social.infowars.com/blo.....ry_id=6199
March 13th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Baghdad Alex is a sad, sad, joke of a man.