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Dozens of secret Bush surveillance, executive power memos found
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John Byrne
Raw Story
February 3, 2009
Details about more than three dozen secret memoranda written by Bush Administration officials now sit atop a chart created by a public interest reporting group. The memos track new details about dozens of secret Bush Administration legal positions on torture, detention and warrantless wiretapping.
Meanwhile, Obama’s freshly-confirmed Attorney General Eric Holder told senators that he was open to declassifying White House legal memos if no support for their original classification could be found, signaling a likely showdown with former President George W. Bush over executive privilege.
"The Bush administration’s controversial policies on detentions, interrogations and warrantless wiretapping were underpinned by legal memoranda," Pro Publica’s Dan Nguyen and Christopher Weaver write. "While some of those memos have been released (primarily as a result of ACLU lawsuits), the former administration kept far more memos secret than has been previously understood. At least three dozen by our count."
Nguyen and Weaver produced the chart. Propublica was founded in 2007 as a non-profit driven investigative news outlet and is run by a former managing editor from the Wall Street Journal.
The chart lists 40 memos that remain secret, along with identifying the 12 that have been made public.
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Given the chart, one can find the exact date a memo was written, its author and sometimes short details the authors have gleaned from other sources.
Among the memos’ titles: "Criminal Charges against U.S. terrorists"; "Options for Interpreting the Geneva Convention" and "Fourth Amendment doesn’t apply to military operations abroad or in U.S."
Little is known about the specifics or the resulting effect of the other clandestine briefs.
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For example, the effects of the secret Fourth Amendment memo could be stunning. Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said in another memo that the White House’s lawyers had concluded that the Fourth Amendment’s protections against warrantless search and seizure don’t apply to the US military — even when the operations take place on U.S. soil.
Holder told senators in response to questions sent to him before his confirmation hearings that he’d take an aggressive stance with regard to releasing the White House legal opinions his predecessors’ had labeled as secret.
“Once the new Assistant Attorney General in charge of the Office of Legal Counsel is confirmed, I plan to instruct that official to review the OLC’s policies relating to publication of its opinions with the [objective] of making its opinions available to the maximum extent consistent with sound practice and competing concerns,” Holder wrote.
Holder’s comments were first noted by Secrecy News‘ Steven Aftergood.
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February 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 pm
let’s wag the dog some more, obama is starting to look like a soup sammich, so let’s do what we can to take the publics eye off the ball.
Where is your outrage? Reply:
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
I agree. Ley us keep looking at Bush and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. We will all still be hating on Bush while Obama and the Gang rape us from behind.
GMacD Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
No kidding!
roaddog Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
You got that right. Even if its true it’ll never be used against the monkey.
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
This indeed is “dark” and “far down the road” as to upholding and defending the Constitution.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:16 pm
All I can say is that people better start waking up!
http://www.warnthepeople.org
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 pm
i could see that look in his face in the last year that was like he was in deeper corruption then he wanted to be. he was just an idiot to make obama look better, and he could sign his name.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Post this link on your websites, put it up on your myspace page.
http://thesleepinggiant.us/Inf.....Manual.pdf
It is a how to guide for waking up the masses! Read it, pass it along to your friends in the infowar. Time is short so do not wait.
line in the sand Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Understanding this will help.
Here is how it works!
This is about waking up your most trusted Famly & freinds>
And by the 1000’s this has allready been done(THATS RIGHT GOV)!
We are a ARMY of SPLINTERS all living in the same house.
US MILITARY HAS ALLREADY DONE IT,ONE BEER AT A TIME.
(JUST LIKE OUR FOR FATHERS DID)
ITS JUST A MATTER OF WHO SHOOTS FIRST NOW.
And for you GOV boys out there,get the facts before you betray this land I love,here just one of many examples. http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm
DO IT FOR YOUR CHILDREN!
May the light of love and TRUTH guide your actions.
Respectfully a Vet Who CARES
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msmadame Reply:
February 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Truthers,
Your television, cellular phone screen and computer screen are embeded with thousands of vision sensors, i.e., cameras. Within the pixels of the image you are viewing. Take a look and please share.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/0…..cd-pixels/
February 4th, 2009 at 12:13 am
So much for swearing to uphold the Constitution of the United States…
Bush and Cheney fingered Article 6, Section 2 of the United States Constitution and therefore are eligible to be arrested on charges of High Treason.
Too bad the U.S. Marshals are too f---ing lazy to do their jobs properly.
mrmakymkay Reply:
February 4th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
no s---; what do these people do all day mkay?
February 4th, 2009 at 1:30 am
I say if we don’t hold bush and co accountable for these criminal acts that are being so conspicuously waved in front of us then we can’t expect anything but the same in the future. They’re watching to see our reaction to this potential scandal so that they can get an idea of how far they can go when they start breaking the law and trampling the constitution again, which they will do. Good Luck!
February 4th, 2009 at 6:29 am
EO’S ON FILE ARE:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/index.html
COULD NOT FIND EO 13223 DATED SEPT. 14, 2001!
February 4th, 2009 at 8:38 am
i bet obama will release these memos to gain favor and make him look like the good guy. bush has served his purpose for the new world order so what use do they have for him now?
February 4th, 2009 at 11:39 am
repent.unite.resist.
February 4th, 2009 at 11:52 am
The government tries to convince people that SECRECY is a “necessary evil” for the sake of national security. Well, if we have enough nukes to blow the world up, then why fear anyone? Why the need for secrecy?
Secrecy is where the problems start. When we allow any government to grant itself secrecy powers, or the legalisation of secret societies- this is the end result, tyranny.
You cannot have a government “by the people, for the people”, if the people are kept in the dark about what’s going on.
I doubt any redress of greivances would avail regarding these issues, or any other legitimate concerns by us peasants.
February 4th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Nationalised Healthcare, Gun Confiscation/Regulation/Over Taxation, Illegal Imigration/Mexico Collapsing and merging with the U.S. all on the hirizon, and we care about this crap?
Seriously….. i nthe first week Obama has started tying up the loose ends on selling America out.
February 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Ha I just listen to Alex interview that Lawyer forget his name but it was today 2/4/09, the guy ripped Alex, kept it cool and Ripped Alex at the same time.
Love ya Alex I’m not a Gov stooge and I listen to your show everyday but bro you do exagerate a lot and this guy proved it. You told him that Women Freeman was charged with Terroism and he proved she wasn’t that was so funny. Alex your not a lawyer bro you always read way to far into things because your not trained, and no reading books of your choice is not training, reading a book written by the Global Elite doesn’t make you as smart as the people that wrote it considering truthfully you probably only understand 25% of the Language in the book. Wow again so funny
February 4th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
unfortunately, that will never happen.
February 4th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
will you please post your k k k charter website so that
we can all go visit and see what you are all about? Thanks so very much!
When will you k k k neo- na zi radical ji ha d ists stop making the blaming the victim?
you blame the Jewish people for the deaths of 6 million Jews, you blame the Jewish people
for I’m a dinner jacket, you blame the Jewish people for 911, you blame the Jewish people
for the financial crisis now, and the ones in the past, you blame the Jewish people for
all wars, you blame the Jewish people, you blame the Jewish people, you blame the Jewish
people, you blame the Jewish people, you blame the Jewish people, you blame the Jewish
people, you blame the Jewish people…
Are you sick or something? Has someone removed your brains? Did you drink stupid-aid?
What in God’s green Earth has gotten into your rotten innards?
All you ever do is promote hate and the extinction of an entire people? Are you really
that dumb? Are you really that brainwashed? Are you REALLY that STUPID?
February 4th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Bush Jr. and Cheney should surrender thier passports, NOW…..
WE CANNOT ALLOW THESE CRIMINALS TO GO UNTRIED !!!!!
and they ruined Nixon for a lousy, after hours office party at the Watergate Hotel….????
Why did George Bush cancel his official plans to be at the Pentegon on 9-11 to go to Florida and then SAC headquarters in Omaha? So the spooks could secure the cime scene?
What the hell was Rumsfeld doing on the grouds immediately after the Missle….I meant to say American Airlines 757 hit ????
Who coached the cab driver to recite his line of BS about the light pole?
Why was he interviewed on TV??
Why did Bush’s cousin change the venue of an investor-vote stockholder meeting scheduled for
four months prior in WTC 2, the week before? Who is He?
Why did the Chevron-Texaco merger gain approval on Sept. 7 in SF after seven years of
anti-trust lawsuits?
Where were all the Enron, and 12 other Texas-Oklahoma held company California energy-price gouging records….showing 170% increases in natural gas and electricity to over 2 months in 1999-2000…….to every household in CA….maybe???, yeah……..WTC 7
Where did $600 M in gold bullion disapper to from the 3rd level sub-basement of WTC 2 ?
Why did Jr. Bush gladly admit personally seeing the first plane hit on TV…because the black op spooks filmed it, too??? Did Jr. simply forgot to lie????
Who told Guili to move his command center? seen on FAUX NEWS on 9-11?
Who was the AirForce Captain that asked Cheney to reaffrm his NO SHOOT order…recounted by Secretary Minetta…on camera….twice ?
Why did the Bin Laden family have all thier bags packed for points unknown and were flown by CHARTERED jets by the US government… no questions asked?? Who are they anyway?
What about a new, REAL 9-11 investigation???
February 4th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
hey come on they’re on our side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcz9bFXnqn0
February 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Folks, this “wagging-the-dog” tatic is so old that it was around when the dead sea was still alive. All this “look over there while i screw you over here and it wont hurt as bad” bull is giving Barry and his jackboot cabinet time to put the finishing touch on the police state while we bitch about what happened yesterday…clear your mind….its what lays in front of us that will enslave our children forever. Then and only then we can drag the perps to the colliseum and feed them to the masses of hungry lions. Join your local malitia (dont worry bout your name being on the list because it already is from being on this site and a hundred other) this way we can more effectly unite and have some kind of a core agrement as when to strike…thru snail mail ofcourse. heres a site i have from the “Active Milita” in most states, help us fill in the blanks..http://www.1sttnrifles.net/activemilitialinks.htm thanks and God speed
February 5th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Socrates: allegory of the caves. why do people do what they do. For the pleasure it yields or for fear of being caught and punished for doing otherwise. the man who doesn’t fear consequences is scarcely the righteous man. he who fears all consequences gets nothing done in life. ethics and morals are what we make them. man left to his own device is a base and cruel creature.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
you know thats why we have problems/ we have human beings callng othe rhuman beings monkeys. arrogance and some people thinking that they are perfect and better than others is what led to every historical tyranny we had. Hitler wanted white blond blue eyes. what the hell? if you call blac people monkeys, than you are Hitler’s friend. where does that attitude of Im better than you come from?? thats the basis of the whole NWO. that they are better and we are worse because we know nothing. dont spread the hate. there nothing that makes me cringe more than a racist expression, especially one so blatant.like you really think thsi person looks like a monkey??
February 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
А на повестке дня только глянцевый гламур или всесторонний охват? А то вот я мыслей имею всяких много, а визуализировать их не умею…
February 8th, 2009 at 3:28 am
“Fourth Amendment doesn’t apply to military operations abroad or in U.S.”
Notice it says OR IN US.
There is thier excuse for stripping us of our 4th amendment.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:49 am
FYI,
Please Google Telescreen and http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9059.
Big brother truly is watching and watching you now if you are online, on the phone and at home in front of that big screen HD television…
If your television is in your bedroom all that you’ve done in front of it has most likely been captured and stored.
March 18th, 2009 at 2:39 am
I think the greatest thing that any president has ever done! Was when Nixon created the 1974privacy-act. Although it seems here of-late, that the modern-government has been trying to do what ever it can to somehow dismantle the law. Along with state and local governments to disband/circumvent the 1974privacy-act by creating new-laws that counter-act old ones. Or create “loop-hole-laws” in the system so that “circumventing-tactice” can go one in a “stealth-manner” thus violating the Law and the United States citizens privacy-rights and civil-rights as well…This slow “reverse-mode” of destruction/striping of our United States Constitutional Rights must stop and stop now!!!! Before it’s too late…This all ties into our economy, beleive it or not as this new trend of our governments behavior of destruction of rights/re-establishing of them. Will slowly limit-jobs and cause those who have them to slowly loose them…Sending the United States into a down-ward spiral of bankrupties and economic collapse…which then would create the perfect vacum for the New World order to lay it foundation…We must fight against this slow reverse loss of rights in this country, in a very vigulant manner to protect our god given rights. Instilled to us by the United States Constitution…victory victory for all citizens