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Dr. Bruce Ivins, The Perfect Patsy
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Dr. Elliot Lyons
Conspiracy Theory
August 4, 2008
Is the CIA responsible for the convenient death of its most recent suspect in the botched anthrax investigation? I wonder? It wouldn’t be the first time that a “patsy was found just in time”. It is convenient that their only suspect died of an apparent suicide, before he had a chance to defend himself.
Is the case against Ivins more damning then the case was against Steven Jay Hatfill who remained “a person of interest” right up until the time they paid him $5.8 million for ruining his reputation and career? Had he not been so outspoken in declaring his innocence might he have been found dead by an apparent suicide?
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According to his therapist Jean Duley we have allowed a homicidal maniac to work with anthrax for at least the past 7 years, as a United States government microbiologist and vaccinologist for 36 years and senior biodefense researcher at the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) in Fort Detrick, Maryland for 18 years. This shows either extraordinary incompetence or very excellent planning.
According to the FBI’s own investigation Ivins the “client” who “has a history dating to his graduate days of homicidal threats, and actions.” Duley added that Ivins’s psychiatrist called him “homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions,”
Duley added Ivins’ behavior had grown more alarming in recent weeks. On July 9, she said, Ivins showed up for a group session “extremely agitated, out of control,” and said he had bought a bulletproof vest and gun.
“He proceeded to describe to the group a very long and detailed homicidal plan . . . to kill his co-workers because he was about to be indicted on capital murder charges,” she said.
Duley said several psychiatrists who treated Ivins had diagnosed him as a “sociopathic, homicidal killer.” Through her therapy sessions, she added, “I also believe that to be true.”
If you want to commit the perfect crime, first find the perfect patsy. What better candidate could there be then Dr. Bruce Ivins? If you want to rule by fear what better way then an almost invisible poison that could be anywhere. Could this be only a part of a greater conspiracy? I leave it to you to ponder.
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August 4th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Everyone is a spook….or a Vatican assassin, lucifarian, robot, reptilian from the Planet X. Everyone knows that.
Interesting little factoid: Frederick and Washington Counties have the two highest cancer rates per capita in the whole country. Why is that. Whole lot of Cancer research going on in old Fort Detrick. My Mom had a friend who worked at Fort Detrick at their Cancer Research Division as an assistant about when she was my age. The woman ended up with some super rare brain cancer, and she was dead in weeks. Seriously like four reported cases in the whole U.S ever. The deeper you dig, the more you realize, we’re in a big f---ing hamster cage, for the men behind the curtains science experiments. They want to live forever, their must be sacrifices, mostly ours.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
scare even just to read it… dont’you?
August 4th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
I live in Frederick, Maryland less than a half a mile from Ivins and Fort Detrick. I knew of Ivins and saw him around town all the time and at Baker Park at various concerts and other events. I remember watching him juggle for a while one day. And, though I didn’t know him personally, a highly respected scientist who was known for juggling, volunteering for the Red Cross..and played keyboards with a couple of local bands back a few years ago. And, if he really did kill himself, he did it the exact opposite way a “homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions” would have done it. This thing stinks.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
All this does is take the heat off bush for saying it came from iraq. suicide. not.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Walmart now requires anyone 40 or under to show I.D. when purchasing tobacco products.
Yavolt!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 4th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Do a search on Maryland Judiciary Case Files of Jean Duley at http://casesearch.courts.state.....-index.jsp
Type in her name, Jean Duley, and search all files from August of 1998 to August of 2008. This witness for the FBI, the “Therapist” has multiple DUI/DWI’s, a drug charge “CDS”, and a battery charge.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
I agree with #3 David. If this guy really was a homicidal sociopath who recently bought a bulletproof vest and a gun… I don’t think he would have OD’ed on pills, he would have went on a killing spree first, or at least take out a few people he did not particularly care for before doing himself in.
August 4th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
And who the envelopes were sent to, it doesn’t really seem to be the kind of thing a lone nutjob would do. This smells big time. I had forgotten about how they blamed it on Iraq. McCain on Letterman – that is rich. I believe he made the slip up of saying Afghanistan was # 1 on the agenda and then Iraq. Like it was a to-do list he was thinking of. Not in reaction to some supposed intel on the anthrax case, they should be forced to produce that now or be charged, but as a goal that had been previously set.
August 4th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
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August 5th, 2008 at 2:59 am
Definitely a patsy. Good way to end a case for our 9 to 5 FBI agents who could care less about their career and more about their paychecks so they can go to the bar after work.
But then again the field agents are “just following orders”
August 5th, 2008 at 3:02 am
quote:
“Everyone is a spook….or a Vatican assassin, lucifarian, robot, reptilian from the Planet X. Everyone knows that.”
Who ever said taht should go to Art Bell because Alex Jones is more about politics past the left-right archetype. Demons, UFOs, crop circles, pyramids, and all that type of silly stuff is just non-sequitors and kills the movement.
August 5th, 2008 at 6:52 am
The so-called therapist sounds more like the ptsy in this. Very convenient that patient-doctor records are private, and thus will never be revealed to the public. Those closest to Dr. Ivins undoubtedly know what really happened here, but have been frightened into silence. By the way, who was the “unamed woman” who answered Ivin’s phone immediately after his death, and oddly proclaimed “this is a time of mourning”? Who even talks like that? Sounds like the clownish, amateur work of the spooks from Langley.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:01 am
im pretty sure the jesuits were involved in ivin’s murder; as they are notorios experts in the art of poisoning. From kings and queens to presidents and political figures. they poisoned his cranberry juice hile in the hospital
August 5th, 2008 at 8:37 am
It was Phillip Zack, they are trying to cover this up with Ivins as their patsy. I mean jesus, his “shrink”, come on! And who dies in a mental hospital by chugging tylenol? I may be dumb bit I’m not stupid. This was a hit job.
August 5th, 2008 at 9:21 am
His family knows the truth.
August 5th, 2008 at 10:41 am
No charges made until he died… the anthrax attacks were an inside job, but 9/11 was engineered by Muslims in a cave… Please, for the love of freedom, WAKE UP!
August 5th, 2008 at 11:46 am
CIA hit, easy to recognize. Sure, some will know and scream for awile, but in the end, they get by with it.
August 5th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
No s--- sherlock,look at all the biologists,chemists, they are gettin “suicided”,they know something that the govt. DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW.
August 5th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
As soon as I heard this s--- on the News I nearly vommited from The Lies being shoved down my throat. This dude was Assasinaated by some very Powerful People.
August 5th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
good job feds , found a patsy and one more nasty little investigation is off the books , little more than pretend to investigate it for 7 years that is , what took so long , are you not supposed to have a patsy waiting in the wings for a job like that , get it together guys
August 5th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
I’d like to know what Senator Leahey has to say (if he was on truth serum). I thought they screwed up big not succesfully getting him, and he seemed to go after them often with a ‘vengence’ after that. He would be able to explain it all clearly I think, but everyone in the know seems on the take,on coke or ‘certain’sex pics exist(haha) keeping all this stuff contained. Remember the ‘Shadow Gov’t’ set to take charge around this time, along with all that blasting under Cheyne’s house- Probably setting up a ‘Shadow Situation Room’ etc. Yup, seemed pretty bush-league pathetic with this guy getting framed,(I’d compliment them if it ‘tasted’ right but it don’t) just now heard they’re not closing the investigation, just considering it solved,.. sounds pretty non-sensical but what are you or I supposed to do about it.
August 6th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Seems to me this is a perfect case of agent provocateur in action. And what an interesting concept that introduces! That would mean Ivins was scouted and preped some time prior to 9/11. The FIBs could be just as big of dupes here as any of us. Yes, it’s a conspiracy theory, but then again, does anyone really think Uncle Cheney (maybe with a little Rove help) would not be up to the task if it meant convincing America to follow their lead against terrorism? Consider the terrorists messages that accompanyied the anthrax attacks — totally inconsistant to what we are now being told.
Ivins had a long history of mental therapy; he had the access to the anthrax. What better dupe could possibly be found?
August 7th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Why would a man ( Bruce Ivin ) with such social standing and years in his field with so much high security be seeing a therapist in which he would be going to a “group therapy” ? A man whose family is so harrassed he feels a need to wear a bullet proof vest and they claim he is seeing this therpist ( other then the therpist for the Boss on THE SOPRANO’S) I just can not imagine for the life of me anyone going to something like this. If they claim they have the group as witnesses, I would be questioning if the “group members” are real or played actors.
No, this is just too stupid. It reminds me of the claimed “suicide” of Richard Gardner who created the family court syndrome called “PSA” which was a pedophile lobbist agenda he was about to expose to the public since his health was bad. They claim he look a large amount of painkillers and then proceeded to stab himself in the heart several times and then in his own neck.
The autopsy reports are on the internet. I draw your attention to Mc Cains interview in Oct. 2001 with David Letterman, and then the White House staff all taking Cipro just prior to 911 and for a month after it and the Anthrax scare. There are enough pieces of this story that a common person could see the truth to all of this. If Bruce killed himself it was to end the continual struggle against the real terrorists in this country.